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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"No
£9 for a bottle of cider!
I'm guessing it was one of those big bottles
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Yes a 3 litre bottle.
I reckon this is going to encourage shop lifting and more drug using |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"It only happened in Wales 
There's a store in Ross On Wye selling at English prices as just over the boarder!  "
Is that right!?
I thought it was everywhere. |
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"It only happened in Wales
There's a store in Ross On Wye selling at English prices as just over the boarder!
Is that right!?
I thought it was everywhere. "
Pretty sure it's just wales
15 cans of Strongbow went from £12 to £19.80 over night  |
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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago
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"It only happened in Wales
There's a store in Ross On Wye selling at English prices as just over the boarder!
Is that right!?
I thought it was everywhere.
Pretty sure it's just wales
15 cans of Strongbow went from £12 to £19.80 over night "
People stopped buying corona, they saw the loss of a competition and raised the prices in celebration. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"It only happened in Wales
There's a store in Ross On Wye selling at English prices as just over the boarder!
Is that right!?
I thought it was everywhere.
Pretty sure it's just wales
15 cans of Strongbow went from £12 to £19.80 over night "
I know its ridiculous |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It only happened in Wales
There's a store in Ross On Wye selling at English prices as just over the boarder!
Is that right!?
I thought it was everywhere.
Pretty sure it's just wales
15 cans of Strongbow went from £12 to £19.80 over night "
We've had it a while now. First reports seem positive on its success  . It's mainly just cider it affects. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"It only happened in Wales
There's a store in Ross On Wye selling at English prices as just over the boarder!
Is that right!?
I thought it was everywhere.
Pretty sure it's just wales
15 cans of Strongbow went from £12 to £19.80 over night
We've had it a while now. First reports seem positive on its success . It's mainly just cider it affects. "
They told me in the shop that it affects all alcohol here.
Not a success for me  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Happened in Scotland 2 years ago and England be following soon. Shop i work in wont be selling high alcoholic content cos the price rockets "
I've noticed that already. Many places are not stocking it anymore. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Get to know the local proper cider and perry makers or brew your own.
I've got 120 gallons in my man cave,
Correction it was 120 gallons
Hic
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I don't know of anyone making it here. It's more of a Midlands thing.
I've bought it from a few farms around there.
There used to be one place called the monkey house.. Deadly stuff |
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"Get to know the local proper cider and perry makers or brew your own.
I've got 120 gallons in my man cave,
Correction it was 120 gallons
Hic
I don't know of anyone making it here. It's more of a Midlands thing.
I've bought it from a few farms around there.
There used to be one place called the monkey house.. Deadly stuff "
Was a regular if it's the same one, still open now but rumoured to be closing when the landlady retires |
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By *a LunaWoman
over a year ago
South Wales |
"Get to know the local proper cider and perry makers or brew your own.
I've got 120 gallons in my man cave,
Correction it was 120 gallons
Hic
I don't know of anyone making it here. It's more of a Midlands thing.
I've bought it from a few farms around there.
There used to be one place called the monkey house.. Deadly stuff "
Check out the Cowbridge Food Festival when it’s next on - they have a local cider makers tent. As well as lots of other locally produced foods etc. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Get to know the local proper cider and perry makers or brew your own.
I've got 120 gallons in my man cave,
Correction it was 120 gallons
Hic
I don't know of anyone making it here. It's more of a Midlands thing.
I've bought it from a few farms around there.
There used to be one place called the monkey house.. Deadly stuff
Was a regular if it's the same one, still open now but rumoured to be closing when the landlady retires"
Must be the same one. They had some very strong ciders years ago. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Get to know the local proper cider and perry makers or brew your own.
I've got 120 gallons in my man cave,
Correction it was 120 gallons
Hic
I don't know of anyone making it here. It's more of a Midlands thing.
I've bought it from a few farms around there.
There used to be one place called the monkey house.. Deadly stuff
Check out the Cowbridge Food Festival when it’s next on - they have a local cider makers tent. As well as lots of other locally produced foods etc."
Sounds good |
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"Get to know the local proper cider and perry makers or brew your own.
I've got 120 gallons in my man cave,
Correction it was 120 gallons
Hic
I don't know of anyone making it here. It's more of a Midlands thing.
I've bought it from a few farms around there.
There used to be one place called the monkey house.. Deadly stuff
Was a regular if it's the same one, still open now but rumoured to be closing when the landlady retires
Must be the same one. They had some very strong ciders years ago."
Still have them including the scrumpy, you get a square of carpet to sit on if the benches are wet and the locals have there own mugs and bring in bread and cheese to eat.
Won't be many more when it goes |
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"It only happened in Wales
There's a store in Ross On Wye selling at English prices as just over the boarder!
Is that right!?
I thought it was everywhere.
Pretty sure it's just wales
15 cans of Strongbow went from £12 to £19.80 over night
We've had it a while now. First reports seem positive on its success . It's mainly just cider it affects.
They told me in the shop that it affects all alcohol here.
Not a success for me "
The Welsh Government has brought in minimum pricing on alcohol so if it was cheap before then the price will have gone up xx |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Out of curiousity what are the other rules in the rest of the UK re drink? I remember being shocked you could buy it at any time from shops in London - is that still the case?
It's 10am-10pm here and we don't have happy hours or multi-buy discounts anymore either. Do England, Wales and Northern Ireland? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Get to know the local proper cider and perry makers or brew your own.
I've got 120 gallons in my man cave,
Correction it was 120 gallons
Hic
I don't know of anyone making it here. It's more of a Midlands thing.
I've bought it from a few farms around there.
There used to be one place called the monkey house.. Deadly stuff
Was a regular if it's the same one, still open now but rumoured to be closing when the landlady retires
Must be the same one. They had some very strong ciders years ago.
Still have them including the scrumpy, you get a square of carpet to sit on if the benches are wet and the locals have there own mugs and bring in bread and cheese to eat.
Won't be many more when it goes"
Yes my uncle used to go there years ago and he said the cider was so strong then.. They would only serve you 2 pints. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"It only happened in Wales
There's a store in Ross On Wye selling at English prices as just over the boarder!
Is that right!?
I thought it was everywhere.
Pretty sure it's just wales
15 cans of Strongbow went from £12 to £19.80 over night
We've had it a while now. First reports seem positive on its success . It's mainly just cider it affects.
They told me in the shop that it affects all alcohol here.
Not a success for me
The Welsh Government has brought in minimum pricing on alcohol so if it was cheap before then the price will have gone up xx"
Such a big increase though. I like cider and my money too lol |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Wasn’t it done in the hope of reducing alcohol dependency. "
Or is that the excuse for more tax money or whatever they get out of it.
I'm guessing it will cause more shop lifting and encourage people to take drugs |
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"It only happened in Wales
There's a store in Ross On Wye selling at English prices as just over the boarder!
Is that right!?
I thought it was everywhere.
Pretty sure it's just wales
15 cans of Strongbow went from £12 to £19.80 over night
We've had it a while now. First reports seem positive on its success . It's mainly just cider it affects.
They told me in the shop that it affects all alcohol here.
Not a success for me
The Welsh Government has brought in minimum pricing on alcohol so if it was cheap before then the price will have gone up xx
Such a big increase though. I like cider and my money too lol"
Buy stowfords it might be more but you won't need as many |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Out of curiousity what are the other rules in the rest of the UK re drink? I remember being shocked you could buy it at any time from shops in London - is that still the case?
It's 10am-10pm here and we don't have happy hours or multi-buy discounts anymore either. Do England, Wales and Northern Ireland?"
Far as I know you can buy it anytime in England, Wales and Northern Ireland. I heard you can't buy it on a Sunday morning in southern Ireland.
We have happy hours in pubs and I'm sure there are multi buy deals in shops like bargain booze. I guess it's changed now though. |
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Worked a treat in Scotland. Stopped alcohol abuse sadly doubled the drug problem cheaper to get off your head on drugs now .really thought that one through our bright peers. Lunatics running the asilum. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Worked a treat in Scotland. Stopped alcohol abuse sadly doubled the drug problem cheaper to get off your head on drugs now .really thought that one through our bright peers. Lunatics running the asilum. "
you've just straight up made that up. It's only been in a couple of years so it's neither stopped alcohol abuse (not that anyone claimed it would) nor doubled drug use. It's a marathon, not a sprint and worth trying. The results so far are promising with consumption being reduced. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Hasn't drug abuse gone up quite a lot in Scotland drug capital of Europe one quote ."
Sadly, yes, drug deaths have been going up for a while. Before MUP, and mainly in relation to long term heroin users. People aren't moving from Diamond White to smack though, it's two separate issues. Like I said, it's a long term plan and it's being thoroughly reviewed along the way. It can be scrapped after 5 or 6 years if the evidence isn't strong enough to support keeping it up but it's looking good so far so has to be worth a shot, no? Nothing changes if you don't try. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Whats wrong with home brew???"
Nothing wrong with drinking it. I just don't like waiting and making it.
Not that I've ever made it. I just imagine it would be a lot of work. |
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"Whats wrong with home brew???
Nothing wrong with drinking it. I just don't like waiting and making it.
Not that I've ever made it. I just imagine it would be a lot of work. "
It does take a bit of time, and money too! A friend of mine home brews and sometimes gets clones to make. I know he made an IPA called Two Hearted Ale by Bell's Brewing. |
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"No
£9 for a bottle of cider!
I'm guessing it was one of those big bottles
P
Yes a 3 litre bottle.
I reckon this is going to encourage shop lifting and more drug using "
Actually, in Scotland it's reduced emergency alcohol admissions significantly over the time since it was introduced. |
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"Wasn’t it done in the hope of reducing alcohol dependency.
Or is that the excuse for more tax money or whatever they get out of it.
I'm guessing it will cause more shop lifting and encourage people to take drugs "
Been law in Scotland for last 2 years and neither of those things have happened. |
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It's an hammer to cracking an egg sadly .why should people who enjoy a social drink be punished for a few. As for statistics they can be manipulated to give whatever outcome you like . I do totally agree it's a problem that needs to be addressed but not at the expense of the masses. One other question I would like to know the answer to were dose all the extra tax 100 % to drug and drink abuse very much doubt that's the case . |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It's an hammer to cracking an egg sadly .why should people who enjoy a social drink be punished for a few. As for statistics they can be manipulated to give whatever outcome you like . I do totally agree it's a problem that needs to be addressed but not at the expense of the masses. One other question I would like to know the answer to were dose all the extra tax 100 % to drug and drink abuse very much doubt that's the case ."
It's not a few, liver disease and other alcohol related issues are widespread and kill. It's targeted at 'gut rot' drinks that were ridiculously cheap before to move people away from them and discourage young people from starting on them. Things like wine/spirits weren't really affected as they were above the threshold anyway so moderate drinkers can just carry on as normal with no real impact. There was a ton of public consultation before it was brought in and the health, social and financial impact on retailers are all being monitored. It's been a really transparent process, there's loads you can read online on it if you're interested.
The additional money stays with the retailer, it's not a tax, and it compensates for selling less by pricing it more sensibly. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It's an hammer to cracking an egg sadly .why should people who enjoy a social drink be punished for a few. As for statistics they can be manipulated to give whatever outcome you like . I do totally agree it's a problem that needs to be addressed but not at the expense of the masses. One other question I would like to know the answer to were dose all the extra tax 100 % to drug and drink abuse very much doubt that's the case .
It's not a few, liver disease and other alcohol related issues are widespread and kill. It's targeted at 'gut rot' drinks that were ridiculously cheap before to move people away from them and discourage young people from starting on them. Things like wine/spirits weren't really affected as they were above the threshold anyway so moderate drinkers can just carry on as normal with no real impact. There was a ton of public consultation before it was brought in and the health, social and financial impact on retailers are all being monitored. It's been a really transparent process, there's loads you can read online on it if you're interested.
The additional money stays with the retailer, it's not a tax, and it compensates for selling less by pricing it more sensibly. "
Exactly this.
Alcoholic liver disease is killing more and more people and younger and younger people. This needs to change and as education clearly is not working this is very much needed |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"At 50p a unit being the minimum price it doesn't seem that bad to me to be honest"
That's around £1 to £1.50p on a pint of strongbow. Sounds like a lot to me. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"One last question are you in anyway involved in this program ? You seem to be very well informed about the progress of this experiment. "
Me? Nah, not involved in any way. I'm just a dweeb who's interested in things to do with public health and welfare etc. None of it's secret though, it's all published info and featured in the news quite a lot this year so far as the first progress report came out. Sorry, didn't mean to derail Mickey's thread though, I also miss cheap cider at BBQs sometimes lol, was just giving the bigger picture |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"One last question are you in anyway involved in this program ? You seem to be very well informed about the progress of this experiment.
Me? Nah, not involved in any way. I'm just a dweeb who's interested in things to do with public health and welfare etc. None of it's secret though, it's all published info and featured in the news quite a lot this year so far as the first progress report came out. Sorry, didn't mean to derail Mickey's thread though, I also miss cheap cider at BBQs sometimes lol, was just giving the bigger picture "
Thats fine thanks for the info |
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