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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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On the tele box a couple of times I have heard this change to LGBT and some extra letters so what is it now and what does it stand for please.
Just trying to be a trendy dad and not upset my daughter by getting it wrong!!
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"On the tele box a couple of times I have heard this change to LGBT and some extra letters so what is it now and what does it stand for please.
Just trying to be a trendy dad and not upset my daughter by getting it wrong!!
T"
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"On the tele box a couple of times I have heard this change to LGBT and some extra letters so what is it now and what does it stand for please.
Just trying to be a trendy dad and not upset my daughter by getting it wrong!!
T"
Welcome to the alphabet wars. LGBTQIA is getting some purchase (google it). Sometimes there's even a + sign added in.
One uber-cool way round this is to use GSRD - gender, sexuality and relationship diversity - if you drop Meg-John Barker into the conversation you'll be the coolest of cool dads...
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By (user no longer on site)
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"On the tele box a couple of times I have heard this change to LGBT and some extra letters so what is it now and what does it stand for please.
Just trying to be a trendy dad and not upset my daughter by getting it wrong!!
TWelcome to the alphabet wars. LGBTQIA is getting some purchase (google it). Sometimes there's even a + sign added in.
One uber-cool way round this is to use GSRD - gender, sexuality and relationship diversity - if you drop Meg-John Barker into the conversation you'll be the coolest of cool dads...
Mr Icebreaker"
Actually the LGBTQIA is a very inclusive acronym especially the "A" in covers 90% of the single men on Fab |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"On the tele box a couple of times I have heard this change to LGBT and some extra letters so what is it now and what does it stand for please.
Just trying to be a trendy dad and not upset my daughter by getting it wrong!!
TWelcome to the alphabet wars. LGBTQIA is getting some purchase (google it). Sometimes there's even a + sign added in.
One uber-cool way round this is to use GSRD - gender, sexuality and relationship diversity - if you drop Meg-John Barker into the conversation you'll be the coolest of cool dads...
Mr Icebreaker
Actually the LGBTQIA is a very inclusive acronym especially the "A" in covers 90% of the single men on Fab "
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Some people call it LGBTQIA+ which adds queer, intersex, asexual (+ others) into the mix.
I'm part of the LGBT community and even I can't keep up with all the additional letters! "
Thank you so much I knew there was a new q in the mix but didn’t catch the whole title.
Thanks again.
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By (user no longer on site)
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All these random letters get added on, many gay men I know including myself do not understand what they are and who decided to add them on and we are getting a bit bored of it all  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"On the tele box a couple of times I have heard this change to LGBT and some extra letters so what is it now and what does it stand for please.
Just trying to be a trendy dad and not upset my daughter by getting it wrong!!
TWelcome to the alphabet wars. LGBTQIA is getting some purchase (google it). Sometimes there's even a + sign added in.
One uber-cool way round this is to use GSRD - gender, sexuality and relationship diversity - if you drop Meg-John Barker into the conversation you'll be the coolest of cool dads...
Mr Icebreaker
Actually the LGBTQIA is a very inclusive acronym especially the "A" in covers 90% of the single men on Fab
It's not for lack of trying you know. "
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"All these random letters get added on, many gay men I know including myself do not understand what they are and who decided to add them on and we are getting a bit bored of it all "
To be honest I can understand this completely.
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"All these random letters get added on, many gay men I know including myself do not understand what they are and who decided to add them on and we are getting a bit bored of it all
To be honest I can understand this completely.
T"
So can I, but my understanding may come from a different standpoint to yours. The udnerstanding that oppression isn't binary, and that gay men may, accidentally or deliberately, oppose others receiving the privileges or protections they enjoy, especially in a model that relies on labels and definitions to defend what become to be seen as sectional interests, is easy to udnerstand, if you want to.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"All these random letters get added on, many gay men I know including myself do not understand what they are and who decided to add them on and we are getting a bit bored of it all
To be honest I can understand this completely.
TSo can I, but my understanding may come from a different standpoint to yours. The udnerstanding that oppression isn't binary, and that gay men may, accidentally or deliberately, oppose others receiving the privileges or protections they enjoy, especially in a model that relies on labels and definitions to defend what become to be seen as sectional interests, is easy to udnerstand, if you want to.
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You are completely wrong sorry, it is not about wishing others not having equal rights, it is simply not understanding why we are all being lumped in together, gender identity and sexuality are two completely separate things. |
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"All these random letters get added on, many gay men I know including myself do not understand what they are and who decided to add them on and we are getting a bit bored of it all
To be honest I can understand this completely.
TSo can I, but my understanding may come from a different standpoint to yours. The udnerstanding that oppression isn't binary, and that gay men may, accidentally or deliberately, oppose others receiving the privileges or protections they enjoy, especially in a model that relies on labels and definitions to defend what become to be seen as sectional interests, is easy to udnerstand, if you want to.
You are completely wrong sorry, it is not about wishing others not having equal rights, it is simply not understanding why we are all being lumped in together, gender identity and sexuality are two completely separate things. "
There is of course a fine historical precedent about why trans people and gay people have sen their rights as being interdependent - the riot at the Stonewall bar was led by trans women of colour, who understood that there might be a solidarity of the oppressed.
Of course, once cis homosexual men had decided that gay was a term exclusively for them, and set about excluding others from their definition of gayness, the die was cast, and we ended up with the current situation, which is why some of us are trying to reclaim queerness as an umbrella term as well as an intellectual school of thought, and to use GSRD as a replacement for the alpabet soup. |
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It seems a bit odd for me to be part of the B community as I don’t feel like I’m a minority person. I suppose I must be. I don’t know what rights I might have either as a bisexual man. I’ve seen ‘no bi men’ on profiles though. I like the GSRD one - much easier to remember. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I just go with LGB and be done with it.
LGB+ is all it needs at this point since the + was added for that very reason if I'm not mistaken. "
Exactly, it seems silly to just keep adding letters. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I just go with LGB and be done with it.
LGB+ is all it needs at this point since the + was added for that very reason if I'm not mistaken.
Exactly, it seems silly to just keep adding letters."
So are the L, G and B more important so they deserve a letter of their own? Others just a +, as anything else included.
I've seen it with P for paedophiles, apparently some of them feel misunderstood and discriminated against.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I just go with LGB and be done with it.
LGB+ is all it needs at this point since the + was added for that very reason if I'm not mistaken.
Exactly, it seems silly to just keep adding letters.
So are the L, G and B more important so they deserve a letter of their own? Others just a +, as anything else included.
I've seen it with P for paedophiles, apparently some of them feel misunderstood and discriminated against.
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A short answer, yes. L, G and B represent sexual orientations which was the whole point of the acronym. |
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"I just go with LGB and be done with it.
LGB+ is all it needs at this point since the + was added for that very reason if I'm not mistaken.
Exactly, it seems silly to just keep adding letters.
So are the L, G and B more important so they deserve a letter of their own? Others just a +, as anything else included.
I've seen it with P for paedophiles, apparently some of them feel misunderstood and discriminated against.
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Are you comparing paedophiles with the groups talked about here? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I just go with LGB and be done with it.
LGB+ is all it needs at this point since the + was added for that very reason if I'm not mistaken.
Exactly, it seems silly to just keep adding letters.
So are the L, G and B more important so they deserve a letter of their own? Others just a +, as anything else included.
I've seen it with P for paedophiles, apparently some of them feel misunderstood and discriminated against.
A short answer, yes. L, G and B represent sexual orientations which was the whole point of the acronym."
Exactly, the T has nothing to do with me having same sex attraction, totally unrelated. However when people moan on in real life about ‘all this gay crap’ I notice they are actually referring to gender identity but I am automatically dragged in.
As everything has suddenly flung open about gender these days and loads of people identifying with it, the T and all other gender identities are varied enough and large enough now to have their own groupings. |
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By *isaB45Woman
over a year ago
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"I just go with LGB and be done with it.
LGB+ is all it needs at this point since the + was added for that very reason if I'm not mistaken.
Exactly, it seems silly to just keep adding letters.
So are the L, G and B more important so they deserve a letter of their own? Others just a +, as anything else included.
I've seen it with P for paedophiles, apparently some of them feel misunderstood and discriminated against.
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Seriously??? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I just go with LGB and be done with it.
LGB+ is all it needs at this point since the + was added for that very reason if I'm not mistaken.
Exactly, it seems silly to just keep adding letters.
So are the L, G and B more important so they deserve a letter of their own? Others just a +, as anything else included.
I've seen it with P for paedophiles, apparently some of them feel misunderstood and discriminated against.
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Really? Are you seriously grouping paedophiles with the LGBT+ community?
And don’t think using the “I’ve seen it somewhere” as an excuse to be able to spout such vile shit here.
Simply disgusting! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I just go with LGB and be done with it.
LGB+ is all it needs at this point since the + was added for that very reason if I'm not mistaken.
Exactly, it seems silly to just keep adding letters.
So are the L, G and B more important so they deserve a letter of their own? Others just a +, as anything else included.
I've seen it with P for paedophiles, apparently some of them feel misunderstood and discriminated against.
Really? Are you seriously grouping paedophiles with the LGBT+ community?
And don’t think using the “I’ve seen it somewhere” as an excuse to be able to spout such vile shit here.
Simply disgusting! "
I resent being remotely put in the same catagory as peadophiles, I know a lot of people see us as perverts but bloody hell |
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"Appreciating he's a smug git I've just finished reading Identity Crisis by Ben Elton. Anyone read it? Just that it's pertaining to this. + Cis gender, etc. "
yes it’s really funny. Most of his books are really good.
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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago
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"I just go with LGB and be done with it.
LGB+ is all it needs at this point since the + was added for that very reason if I'm not mistaken.
Exactly, it seems silly to just keep adding letters.
So are the L, G and B more important so they deserve a letter of their own? Others just a +, as anything else included.
I've seen it with P for paedophiles, apparently some of them feel misunderstood and discriminated against.
A short answer, yes. L, G and B represent sexual orientations which was the whole point of the acronym."
Well considering the fact that the + was added for the very fact you can't just keep adding letters to include everyone, you would end up with a fucked up alphabet if you did include them all. The shorter it is, the easier it is to rmemeber and easier it is for people to accept it and use it correctly. |
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