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"Birds are flying it across from EU" I think that bird flu spread that way to our poultry etc.. | |||
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"There are reports of Corona jumping species to pet dogs etc.. the WHO have raised their concern to something similar to.. this is fucking serious.. If I could pick a species for the virus to spread to it would be crocodiles and sharks.. Won't happen though .. but what if a shark or crocodile feasted on a human with Corona..? Who knows.. What will the government policy be if out pet dogs catch it.. Tom gets mocked for saying Wake Up People's.. It really is time to wake up.. " Do you have a link to these reports ti Tom? Id love to read a bit more about it | |||
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"There are reports of Corona jumping species to pet dogs etc.. the WHO have raised their concern to something similar to.. this is fucking serious.. If I could pick a species for the virus to spread to it would be crocodiles and sharks.. Won't happen though .. but what if a shark or crocodile feasted on a human with Corona..? Who knows.. What will the government policy be if out pet dogs catch it.. Tom gets mocked for saying Wake Up People's.. It really is time to wake up.. Do you have a link to these reports ti Tom? Id love to read a bit more about it" You are my friend and Google is your friend.. | |||
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"There are reports of Corona jumping species to pet dogs etc.. the WHO have raised their concern to something similar to.. this is fucking serious.. If I could pick a species for the virus to spread to it would be crocodiles and sharks.. Won't happen though .. but what if a shark or crocodile feasted on a human with Corona..? Who knows.. What will the government policy be if out pet dogs catch it.. Tom gets mocked for saying Wake Up People's.. It really is time to wake up.. " I don't think sharks or crocodiles use lager to wash their meals down | |||
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"I think you need your own forum tom" You mean.. isolate myself ? | |||
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"I'm awake. And awaiting further instruction. I assume you'll be relaying what we need to do next after waking up?" I am not your mentor.. I can flag up issues but you need to make those decisions | |||
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"I'm awake. And awaiting further instruction. I assume you'll be relaying what we need to do next after waking up? I am not your mentor.. I can flag up issues but you need to make those decisions " I thought as you wanted us to wake up there was somewhere to go with that. But nothing! Thanks for nothing. What is the point of alerting people when you don't have anything else? People might as well carry on as they are. | |||
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"There are reports of Corona jumping species to pet dogs etc.. the WHO have raised their concern to something similar to.. this is fucking serious.. If I could pick a species for the virus to spread to it would be crocodiles and sharks.. Won't happen though .. but what if a shark or crocodile feasted on a human with Corona..? Who knows.. What will the government policy be if out pet dogs catch it.. Tom gets mocked for saying Wake Up People's.. It really is time to wake up.. " ....what can we do about it Tom? | |||
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"I can advise but reluctant to do so .. I am not an expert.. Just a gifted amateur " You're more at risk of high blood pressure than you are of corona, you need to calm yourself down. | |||
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"I can advise but reluctant to do so .. I am not an expert.. Just a gifted amateur " I know but you keep telling people to "wake up", what exactly does that mean? | |||
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"I've heard the brand Corona are losing millions as people have stopped drinking it " Yeah I saw that too. It’s mad. | |||
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"I've heard the brand Corona are losing millions as people have stopped drinking it Yeah I saw that too. It’s mad." What! What is wrong with people? | |||
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"**Admin** can we have a health section please." Call it Tom | |||
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"I can advise but reluctant to do so .. I am not an expert.. Just a gifted amateur You're more at risk of high blood pressure than you are of corona, you need to calm yourself down. " I already have been diagnosed with blood pressure | |||
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"I can advise but reluctant to do so .. I am not an expert.. Just a gifted amateur You're more at risk of high blood pressure than you are of corona, you need to calm yourself down. I already have been diagnosed with blood pressure " a certain amount of blood pressure is quite useful | |||
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"I've heard the brand Corona are losing millions as people have stopped drinking it " Apparently Corona sales in USA gave dropped significantly | |||
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" What! What is wrong with people? " This phrase could catch on... | |||
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"I can advise but reluctant to do so .. I am not an expert.. Just a gifted amateur You're more at risk of high blood pressure than you are of corona, you need to calm yourself down. I already have been diagnosed with blood pressure " Yeah, it's a good job or you'd be dead. | |||
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"**Admin** can we have a health section please. Call it Tom " I am no leader just a concerned citizen... | |||
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"I'm awake. And awaiting further instruction. I assume you'll be relaying what we need to do next after waking up? I am not your mentor.. I can flag up issues but you need to make those decisions I thought as you wanted us to wake up there was somewhere to go with that. But nothing! Thanks for nothing. What is the point of alerting people when you don't have anything else? People might as well carry on as they are. " What is wrong with you.. I am not a guru.. | |||
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"The WHO ..have raised concern..?..what are they going to do a benefit gig..?" Basically the World Health Organisation are saying what we all new all along.. This is getting serious.. | |||
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"The WHO ..have raised concern..?..what are they going to do a benefit gig..? Basically the World Health Organisation are saying what we all new all along.. This is getting serious.. " Oh them ..I thought you meant Roger and his mate's.. | |||
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"When can we expect the army to be walking our streets OP? Just so I can put it in my diary of course from one of your earlier threads " An expert said this week that those fashionable face masks are useless as the virus is smaller than the holes in the masks.. most virus get absorbed into the eyes he said only military grade full face masks will protect.. | |||
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"Just survived a trip to london including multiple underground rides and can confirm I didn't catch corona. what madness" You won't know for two weeks... | |||
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"Just survived a trip to london including multiple underground rides and can confirm I didn't catch corona. what madness" I saw a few people wearing maxis on the tube. I also saw them hold the pole without gloves so epic fail there. | |||
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"Just survived a trip to london including multiple underground rides and can confirm I didn't catch corona. what madness I saw a few people wearing maxis on the tube. I also saw them hold the pole without gloves so epic fail there. " masks!!!’ | |||
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"The WHO ..have raised concern..?..what are they going to do a benefit gig..?" Coronaphenia | |||
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" the WHO have raised their concern to something similar to.. this is fucking serious.. " Bloody hell. If Roger Daltry is that worried, maybe I should start to panic now too? | |||
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"Birds are flying it across from EU" You know the song Don't blame on the sunshine. Don't blame on it on the birds, or animals, again antibiotics, chemical industry, etc... I do feel sorry for our Asian cousins they always get blamed for it all because they have a more open thought to the phrase. " IF IT MOVES You eat it. A bird takes a couple of weeks maybe months to migrate, where 1 planes can make a journey around world over and over again. It's not doomsday, like Hnc1 it fade as fast as it merged. Watch that big rock in the sky folks. I thought you where on here to have fun, while I'm talking mutter, I thought fabswingers was a dance club when I first heard of it | |||
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"Just survived a trip to london including multiple underground rides and can confirm I didn't catch corona. what madness You won't know for two weeks..." What sort of shit virus don't hit you for 2 weeks. | |||
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"There are reports of Corona jumping species to pet dogs etc.. the WHO have raised their concern to something similar to.. this is fucking serious.. If I could pick a species for the virus to spread to it would be crocodiles and sharks.. Won't happen though .. but what if a shark or crocodile feasted on a human with Corona..? Who knows.. What will the government policy be if out pet dogs catch it.. Tom gets mocked for saying Wake Up People's.. It really is time to wake up.. " Blimey someone’s been shagging a dog | |||
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"Just survived a trip to london including multiple underground rides and can confirm I didn't catch corona. what madness You won't know for two weeks... What sort of shit virus don't hit you for 2 weeks. " Corona silly.. Wake Up and Wakey Wakey.. Read All About It .. | |||
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"Oh, and another, Dean Koontz wrote a book in 1981 called 'The Eyes of Darkness' that predicted this! Play the Twilight Zone music!" Simpsons. Season 4, episode 21. 1993. | |||
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"You know what surprises me most about the Covid 19 virus? The fact that some people are so stupid that Corona beer has seen sales slump because people think that's how you catch it. The fact some people are so dumb they think boycotting their local chinese takeaway will stop the spread of Covid 19. I don't know why I'm so surprised at total ignorance, but I am. " Locally people who run a Chinese takeaway went to China for new year & came back. They were all tested back here on the island but negative results. This does happen each year. One of my local ones closes completely for about 3 weeks while the owning family goes home to visit relatives. The risk is theoretical but exists because of this. I've often remarked in the past how the staff in another always changes after Chinese new year. Think they have a swap round lol. | |||
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"Wish people would stop calling Tom a troll. He asks some good questions, opens interesting threads, can be controversial but always provides answers with sound logic. He never ever ever insults or berates anyone. We may not agree with what he says but that's the point of debate. It's quite entertaining actually. But please don't refer to him as a troll. They are horrible spiteful people. That's not Tom at all. " You think he uses sound logic? | |||
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"Wish people would stop calling Tom a troll. He asks some good questions, opens interesting threads, can be controversial but always provides answers with sound logic. He never ever ever insults or berates anyone. We may not agree with what he says but that's the point of debate. It's quite entertaining actually. But please don't refer to him as a troll. They are horrible spiteful people. That's not Tom at all. " I disagree,I think that he’s doing it deliberately. | |||
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"Wish people would stop calling Tom a troll. He asks some good questions, opens interesting threads, can be controversial but always provides answers with sound logic. He never ever ever insults or berates anyone. We may not agree with what he says but that's the point of debate. It's quite entertaining actually. But please don't refer to him as a troll. They are horrible spiteful people. That's not Tom at all. I disagree,I think that he’s doing it deliberately. " | |||
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"The WHO are back together and offering health advice? " Well two out of the original four..... | |||
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"Wish people would stop calling Tom a troll. He asks some good questions, opens interesting threads, can be controversial but always provides answers with sound logic. He never ever ever insults or berates anyone. We may not agree with what he says but that's the point of debate. It's quite entertaining actually. But please don't refer to him as a troll. They are horrible spiteful people. That's not Tom at all. You think he uses sound logic? " I do actually yes. In his own way. He always backs up his answers. Trolls are different. They are hurtful and spiteful. I've never seen that in Tom | |||
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"Wish people would stop calling Tom a troll. He asks some good questions, opens interesting threads, can be controversial but always provides answers with sound logic. He never ever ever insults or berates anyone. We may not agree with what he says but that's the point of debate. It's quite entertaining actually. But please don't refer to him as a troll. They are horrible spiteful people. That's not Tom at all. " Sorry but that's complete twaddle, he has been asked umpteen times what he means by 'wake up', 'people unite' etc and he has no answers.. I don't think he's a troll but I do think he has anxiety issues and his worry levels aren't helped by his obsession with this virus.. | |||
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"Wish people would stop calling Tom a troll. He asks some good questions, opens interesting threads, can be controversial but always provides answers with sound logic. He never ever ever insults or berates anyone. We may not agree with what he says but that's the point of debate. It's quite entertaining actually. But please don't refer to him as a troll. They are horrible spiteful people. That's not Tom at all. You think he uses sound logic? I do actually yes. In his own way. He always backs up his answers. Trolls are different. They are hurtful and spiteful. I've never seen that in Tom " He’s just trying to encourage panic and that’s what a troll does on an online forum. It’s as though he’s an editor of the Daily Mail. He makes statements but his statements bear no reference to the truth so for me he is a troll. Perspective is needed, yes things could get worse but at the moment this country is relatively free of the virus. | |||
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"Wish people would stop calling Tom a troll. He asks some good questions, opens interesting threads, can be controversial but always provides answers with sound logic. He never ever ever insults or berates anyone. We may not agree with what he says but that's the point of debate. It's quite entertaining actually. But please don't refer to him as a troll. They are horrible spiteful people. That's not Tom at all. You think he uses sound logic? I do actually yes. In his own way. He always backs up his answers. Trolls are different. They are hurtful and spiteful. I've never seen that in Tom " Alot of what he says isn't fact, it's tripe turfed out by the media to cause panic, he isn't using logic. | |||
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"Wish people would stop calling Tom a troll. He asks some good questions, opens interesting threads, can be controversial but always provides answers with sound logic. He never ever ever insults or berates anyone. We may not agree with what he says but that's the point of debate. It's quite entertaining actually. But please don't refer to him as a troll. They are horrible spiteful people. That's not Tom at all. You think he uses sound logic? I do actually yes. In his own way. He always backs up his answers. Trolls are different. They are hurtful and spiteful. I've never seen that in Tom He’s just trying to encourage panic and that’s what a troll does on an online forum. It’s as though he’s an editor of the Daily Mail. He makes statements but his statements bear no reference to the truth so for me he is a troll. Perspective is needed, yes things could get worse but at the moment this country is relatively free of the virus." OK seen the arguments. I'm not here to be a Tom apologist but I just think the "troll" thing is a bit harsh, that's all. Yes he worries, yes his blood pressure is high, yes he has an irrational fear of crocodiles living in Essex but I was just making the point that he never insults or abuses anyone and responds to his own criticism with dignity. | |||
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"The WHO are back together and offering health advice? " The Rolling Stones have been send to the international space station, just for precautions | |||
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"Wish people would stop calling Tom a troll. He asks some good questions, opens interesting threads, can be controversial but always provides answers with sound logic. He never ever ever insults or berates anyone. We may not agree with what he says but that's the point of debate. It's quite entertaining actually. But please don't refer to him as a troll. They are horrible spiteful people. That's not Tom at all. You think he uses sound logic? I do actually yes. In his own way. He always backs up his answers. Trolls are different. They are hurtful and spiteful. I've never seen that in Tom He’s just trying to encourage panic and that’s what a troll does on an online forum. It’s as though he’s an editor of the Daily Mail. He makes statements but his statements bear no reference to the truth so for me he is a troll. Perspective is needed, yes things could get worse but at the moment this country is relatively free of the virus. OK seen the arguments. I'm not here to be a Tom apologist but I just think the "troll" thing is a bit harsh, that's all. Yes he worries, yes his blood pressure is high, yes he has an irrational fear of crocodiles living in Essex but I was just making the point that he never insults or abuses anyone and responds to his own criticism with dignity. " I think that the words “crocodile” and “Essex” illustrate that he’s taking the piss so yes what he posts is deliberate and is intended to provoke a reaction. That’s atypical troll behaviour. | |||
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"The WHO are back together and offering health advice? The Rolling Stones have been send to the international space station, just for precautions " I hope so | |||
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"Wish people would stop calling Tom a troll. He asks some good questions, opens interesting threads, can be controversial but always provides answers with sound logic. He never ever ever insults or berates anyone. We may not agree with what he says but that's the point of debate. It's quite entertaining actually. But please don't refer to him as a troll. They are horrible spiteful people. That's not Tom at all. You think he uses sound logic? I do actually yes. In his own way. He always backs up his answers. Trolls are different. They are hurtful and spiteful. I've never seen that in Tom He’s just trying to encourage panic and that’s what a troll does on an online forum. It’s as though he’s an editor of the Daily Mail. He makes statements but his statements bear no reference to the truth so for me he is a troll. Perspective is needed, yes things could get worse but at the moment this country is relatively free of the virus. OK seen the arguments. I'm not here to be a Tom apologist but I just think the "troll" thing is a bit harsh, that's all. Yes he worries, yes his blood pressure is high, yes he has an irrational fear of crocodiles living in Essex but I was just making the point that he never insults or abuses anyone and responds to his own criticism with dignity. I think that the words “crocodile” and “Essex” illustrate that he’s taking the piss so yes what he posts is deliberate and is intended to provoke a reaction. That’s atypical troll behaviour." OK Mr Rocks, as I say I'm not a Tom apologist. We just have different definitions of troll. Let's see how this thread develops tomorrow | |||
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"There are reports of Corona jumping species to pet dogs etc.. the WHO have raised their concern to something similar to.. this is fucking serious.. If I could pick a species for the virus to spread to it would be crocodiles and sharks.. Won't happen though .. but what if a shark or crocodile feasted on a human with Corona..? Who knows.. What will the government policy be if out pet dogs catch it.. Tom gets mocked for saying Wake Up People's.. It really is time to wake up.. " Errrm......sharks and crocodiles could be a key to a vaccine, they've surived everything over a many species extinctions. Crocodiles especially are known to have special imunity properties. Yep mad times, millions of locusts in Africa and Arab states, wars in the middle east, virus deseases, droughts, floods, earthquakes and volcanoes, it's all looking a bit apocolyptic. Keep positive. | |||
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"Wish people would stop calling Tom a troll. He asks some good questions, opens interesting threads, can be controversial but always provides answers with sound logic. He never ever ever insults or berates anyone. We may not agree with what he says but that's the point of debate. It's quite entertaining actually. But please don't refer to him as a troll. They are horrible spiteful people. That's not Tom at all. You think he uses sound logic? I do actually yes. In his own way. He always backs up his answers. Trolls are different. They are hurtful and spiteful. I've never seen that in Tom He’s just trying to encourage panic and that’s what a troll does on an online forum. It’s as though he’s an editor of the Daily Mail. He makes statements but his statements bear no reference to the truth so for me he is a troll. Perspective is needed, yes things could get worse but at the moment this country is relatively free of the virus. OK seen the arguments. I'm not here to be a Tom apologist but I just think the "troll" thing is a bit harsh, that's all. Yes he worries, yes his blood pressure is high, yes he has an irrational fear of crocodiles living in Essex but I was just making the point that he never insults or abuses anyone and responds to his own criticism with dignity. I think that the words “crocodile” and “Essex” illustrate that he’s taking the piss so yes what he posts is deliberate and is intended to provoke a reaction. That’s atypical troll behaviour. OK Mr Rocks, as I say I'm not a Tom apologist. We just have different definitions of troll. Let's see how this thread develops tomorrow " Yes, let’s see what he has to say, if we are all dead by Friday then I’d apologise...... | |||
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"Wish people would stop calling Tom a troll. He asks some good questions, opens interesting threads, can be controversial but always provides answers with sound logic. He never ever ever insults or berates anyone. We may not agree with what he says but that's the point of debate. It's quite entertaining actually. But please don't refer to him as a troll. They are horrible spiteful people. That's not Tom at all. You think he uses sound logic? I do actually yes. In his own way. He always backs up his answers. Trolls are different. They are hurtful and spiteful. I've never seen that in Tom He’s just trying to encourage panic and that’s what a troll does on an online forum. It’s as though he’s an editor of the Daily Mail. He makes statements but his statements bear no reference to the truth so for me he is a troll. Perspective is needed, yes things could get worse but at the moment this country is relatively free of the virus. OK seen the arguments. I'm not here to be a Tom apologist but I just think the "troll" thing is a bit harsh, that's all. Yes he worries, yes his blood pressure is high, yes he has an irrational fear of crocodiles living in Essex but I was just making the point that he never insults or abuses anyone and responds to his own criticism with dignity. I think that the words “crocodile” and “Essex” illustrate that he’s taking the piss so yes what he posts is deliberate and is intended to provoke a reaction. That’s atypical troll behaviour. OK Mr Rocks, as I say I'm not a Tom apologist. We just have different definitions of troll. Let's see how this thread develops tomorrow " I'll refrain from accusing him or anyone for being a troll. However the term forum troll was around well before these kids started to use it to bully others. It's not just about insults. It's a broad term and the definition as follows. Definition: An "Internet troll" or "Forum Troll" is a person who posts messages to bait people to answer. Trolls often delight in sowing discord on the forums. A troll is someone who inspires flaming rhetoric, someone who is purposely provoking and pulling people into flaming discussion. | |||
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"Wish people would stop calling Tom a troll. He asks some good questions, opens interesting threads, can be controversial but always provides answers with sound logic. He never ever ever insults or berates anyone. We may not agree with what he says but that's the point of debate. It's quite entertaining actually. But please don't refer to him as a troll. They are horrible spiteful people. That's not Tom at all. You think he uses sound logic? I do actually yes. In his own way. He always backs up his answers. Trolls are different. They are hurtful and spiteful. I've never seen that in Tom He’s just trying to encourage panic and that’s what a troll does on an online forum. It’s as though he’s an editor of the Daily Mail. He makes statements but his statements bear no reference to the truth so for me he is a troll. Perspective is needed, yes things could get worse but at the moment this country is relatively free of the virus. OK seen the arguments. I'm not here to be a Tom apologist but I just think the "troll" thing is a bit harsh, that's all. Yes he worries, yes his blood pressure is high, yes he has an irrational fear of crocodiles living in Essex but I was just making the point that he never insults or abuses anyone and responds to his own criticism with dignity. I think that the words “crocodile” and “Essex” illustrate that he’s taking the piss so yes what he posts is deliberate and is intended to provoke a reaction. That’s atypical troll behaviour. OK Mr Rocks, as I say I'm not a Tom apologist. We just have different definitions of troll. Let's see how this thread develops tomorrow Yes, let’s see what he has to say, if we are all dead by Friday then I’d apologise......" | |||
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"Wish people would stop calling Tom a troll. He asks some good questions, opens interesting threads, can be controversial but always provides answers with sound logic. He never ever ever insults or berates anyone. We may not agree with what he says but that's the point of debate. It's quite entertaining actually. But please don't refer to him as a troll. They are horrible spiteful people. That's not Tom at all. You think he uses sound logic? I do actually yes. In his own way. He always backs up his answers. Trolls are different. They are hurtful and spiteful. I've never seen that in Tom He’s just trying to encourage panic and that’s what a troll does on an online forum. It’s as though he’s an editor of the Daily Mail. He makes statements but his statements bear no reference to the truth so for me he is a troll. Perspective is needed, yes things could get worse but at the moment this country is relatively free of the virus. OK seen the arguments. I'm not here to be a Tom apologist but I just think the "troll" thing is a bit harsh, that's all. Yes he worries, yes his blood pressure is high, yes he has an irrational fear of crocodiles living in Essex but I was just making the point that he never insults or abuses anyone and responds to his own criticism with dignity. I think that the words “crocodile” and “Essex” illustrate that he’s taking the piss so yes what he posts is deliberate and is intended to provoke a reaction. That’s atypical troll behaviour. OK Mr Rocks, as I say I'm not a Tom apologist. We just have different definitions of troll. Let's see how this thread develops tomorrow I'll refrain from accusing him or anyone for being a troll. However the term forum troll was around well before these kids started to use it to bully others. It's not just about insults. It's a broad term and the definition as follows. Definition: An "Internet troll" or "Forum Troll" is a person who posts messages to bait people to answer. Trolls often delight in sowing discord on the forums. A troll is someone who inspires flaming rhetoric, someone who is purposely provoking and pulling people into flaming discussion. " I concur | |||
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"Good to see the covid-19, sharks and crocodiles are now consolidated into one thread " Everything is connected | |||
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"T*R*O*L*L * So in a population of around 60 million we have around 20 confirmed cases.......I think a little perspective is needed. " 35 now....almost doubled since you posted that 20 hours ago...hmmm | |||
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"Louvre is closed in Paris " That's shite....them Louvre doors stop bugger all getting in | |||
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"There are reports of Corona jumping species to pet dogs etc.. the WHO have raised their concern to something similar to.. this is fucking serious.. If I could pick a species for the virus to spread to it would be crocodiles and sharks.. Won't happen though .. but what if a shark or crocodile feasted on a human with Corona..? Who knows.. What will the government policy be if out pet dogs catch it.. Tom gets mocked for saying Wake Up People's.. It really is time to wake up.. " I love this post so much I'm not gonna read the replies as it might dilute my enjoyment. Thanks Tom | |||
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"Louvre is closed in Paris That's shite....them Louvre doors stop bugger all getting in" | |||
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"Tom, there's been a case confirmed in Essex! " Fixed autocorrect | |||
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"There are reports of Corona jumping species to pet dogs etc.. the WHO have raised their concern to something similar to.. this is fucking serious.. If I could pick a species for the virus to spread to it would be crocodiles and sharks.. Won't happen though .. but what if a shark or crocodile feasted on a human with Corona..? Who knows.. What will the government policy be if out pet dogs catch it.. Tom gets mocked for saying Wake Up People's.. It really is time to wake up.. " Stop panicking It kills 1% that’s all I’m at high risk due to health issues, but it’s just a type of flu... People like you op create more panic unnecessarily Ffs | |||
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"Tom, there's been a case confirmed in Essex! Fixed autocorrect" Oh my god, the irony if if the Essex case was actually Tom! | |||
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"Ok Tom, playind devils advocate: let's take the harsh pesimistic perspective (the compassionate control and treat and quick vaccine development hope is better). Yes it's a nasty virus, but the vast percentage of victims survive. Economic outlook strong, yes short term effects are bad, up to 2% die, but it is cleansing the economy, the 2% probably needed some healthcare anyway so that frees up money and people to be more productive robots in our cash driven society! Bring it on it's good for economic growth medium to long term! " So the old and sick deserve yo die! | |||
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" So the old and sick deserve yo die! " Absolutely NOT, we don't live in the world of monsters (there are some out there) or the '70s film "Logans Run" | |||
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" So the old and sick deserve yo die! Absolutely NOT, we don't live in the world of monsters (there are some out there) or the '70s film "Logans Run"" So what was your point then. | |||
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" So the old and sick deserve yo die! Absolutely NOT, we don't live in the world of monsters (there are some out there) or the '70s film "Logans Run" So what was your point then. " Just saying it's not the end of the world, yes its nasty and we all are at risk and have loved ones at risk but it's so unlikely to be catastrophic for humanity as a whole. Do we need lots and lots of Corona discussions ? | |||
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"Ok Tom, playind devils advocate: let's take the harsh pesimistic perspective (the compassionate control and treat and quick vaccine development hope is better). Yes it's a nasty virus, but the vast percentage of victims survive. Economic outlook strong, yes short term effects are bad, up to 2% die, but it is cleansing the economy, the 2% probably needed some healthcare anyway so that frees up money and people to be more productive robots in our cash driven society! Bring it on it's good for economic growth medium to long term! So the old and sick deserve yo die! " Technically the lock down and quarantine China have put in place have caused their pollution to drop considerably. Saying they deserve to die may be a bit extreme, but there is a potential silver lining to go along with the suffering. | |||
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"Ok Tom, playind devils advocate: let's take the harsh pesimistic perspective (the compassionate control and treat and quick vaccine development hope is better). Yes it's a nasty virus, but the vast percentage of victims survive. Economic outlook strong, yes short term effects are bad, up to 2% die, but it is cleansing the economy, the 2% probably needed some healthcare anyway so that frees up money and people to be more productive robots in our cash driven society! Bring it on it's good for economic growth medium to long term! So the old and sick deserve yo die! Technically the lock down and quarantine China have put in place have caused their pollution to drop considerably. Saying they deserve to die may be a bit extreme, but there is a potential silver lining to go along with the suffering." Will you say its a silver lining if you lose someone close? Oh well at the population is smaller! | |||
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"Ok Tom, playind devils advocate: let's take the harsh pesimistic perspective (the compassionate control and treat and quick vaccine development hope is better). Yes it's a nasty virus, but the vast percentage of victims survive. Economic outlook strong, yes short term effects are bad, up to 2% die, but it is cleansing the economy, the 2% probably needed some healthcare anyway so that frees up money and people to be more productive robots in our cash driven society! Bring it on it's good for economic growth medium to long term! So the old and sick deserve yo die! Technically the lock down and quarantine China have put in place have caused their pollution to drop considerably. Saying they deserve to die may be a bit extreme, but there is a potential silver lining to go along with the suffering. Will you say its a silver lining if you lose someone close? Oh well at the population is smaller! " At some point yes. After I have stopped grieving. I'll move on and be able to get over it enough to see the other side, just like I did with every other death of a family member or friend I've been through in my life. | |||
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"How many of you on this thread are still meeting or going to clubs or sauna??? Then if you are. .... don’t moan about corona virus, it’s highly likely you will get it" I'm still going to clubs, I'd rather catch it, self quarantine and be over and done with it | |||
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"How many of you on this thread are still meeting or going to clubs or sauna??? Then if you are. .... don’t moan about corona virus, it’s highly likely you will get it I'm still going to clubs, I'd rather catch it, self quarantine and be over and done with it" | |||
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"Today it was announced that as of 9.00am an additional 35 people in this country were tested positive for the virus. Yesterday morning it was around 15 people. Seeing as they do not predict a vaccine for around the next 12 - 15 months this is very alarming." No, the total is 35. Not an additional 35 up from 15. The majority of the 35 are those that have returned from oversea virus hotspots. | |||
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"Today it was announced that as of 9.00am an additional 35 people in this country were tested positive for the virus. Yesterday morning it was around 15 people. Seeing as they do not predict a vaccine for around the next 12 - 15 months this is very alarming. No, the total is 35. Not an additional 35 up from 15. The majority of the 35 are those that have returned from oversea virus hotspots. " Thanks misunderstood the news update to be fair, but still alarming seeing how quickly it spread through China i such a short space of time. Public transportation is going to be a major concern with this virus especially the underground system. | |||
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"Tom, there's been a case confirmed in Essex! Fixed autocorrect Oh my god, the irony if if the Essex case was actually Tom! " Stop panicking folks.. I can confirm that it's not me so far.. will keep you updated though...I am keeping an eye on this one... | |||
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"How many of you on this thread are still meeting or going to clubs or sauna??? Then if you are. .... don’t moan about corona virus, it’s highly likely you will get it I'm still going to clubs, I'd rather catch it, self quarantine and be over and done with it" There are reports that it can be caught more than once | |||
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"Today it was announced that as of 9.00am an additional 35 people in this country were tested positive for the virus. Yesterday morning it was around 15 people. Seeing as they do not predict a vaccine for around the next 12 - 15 months this is very alarming. No, the total is 35. Not an additional 35 up from 15. The majority of the 35 are those that have returned from oversea virus hotspots. Thanks misunderstood the news update to be fair, but still alarming seeing how quickly it spread through China i such a short space of time. Public transportation is going to be a major concern with this virus especially the underground system." Careful lovegames.. they will be calling you a troll if you carry on... | |||
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"How many of you on this thread are still meeting or going to clubs or sauna??? Then if you are. .... don’t moan about corona virus, it’s highly likely you will get it I'm still going to clubs, I'd rather catch it, self quarantine and be over and done with it There are reports that it can be caught more than once " 2 people have tested positive twice but its believed that they were never tested to see if they were clear. So it's more likely they just still had the virus but felt better. | |||
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"Wish people would stop calling Tom a troll. He asks some good questions, opens interesting threads, can be controversial but always provides answers with sound logic. He never ever ever insults or berates anyone. We may not agree with what he says but that's the point of debate. It's quite entertaining actually. But please don't refer to him as a troll. They are horrible spiteful people. That's not Tom at all. " I don't know said that but I couldn't agree more with what you've said | |||
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"There are reports of Corona jumping species to pet dogs etc.. the WHO have raised their concern to something similar to.. this is fucking serious.. If I could pick a species for the virus to spread to it would be crocodiles and sharks.. Won't happen though .. but what if a shark or crocodile feasted on a human with Corona..? Who knows.. What will the government policy be if out pet dogs catch it.. Tom gets mocked for saying Wake Up People's.. It really is time to wake up.. " What I'd like to know is, what have you got against crocodiles and sharks? You referred to them as 'evil' in another thread. | |||
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"I think the issue is that all Tom has done is say wake up people. I and others have asked him what he wants people to do and he ignores it. Then just says "wake up, it's getting serious" I don't agree with people calling him a troll or mocking him but I can see why people are getting frustrated. " Agreed but I think the message should be for people just to be sensible over the next few weeks, everyone take care of themselves and try not to make your risk of catching it any higher. It is only a short term thing and will soon be gone if people are sensible | |||
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"It is only a short term thing and will soon be gone if people are sensible" Oh ye of too much faith... Think of how stupid the average person is, and then realise half the population are more stupid than that. | |||
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"Wish people would stop calling Tom a troll. He asks some good questions, opens interesting threads, can be controversial but always provides answers with sound logic. He never ever ever insults or berates anyone. We may not agree with what he says but that's the point of debate. It's quite entertaining actually. But please don't refer to him as a troll. They are horrible spiteful people. That's not Tom at all. " He never posts links to the 'story' that he has read, he has avoided telling us what we should 'wake up' to or what happens once we have woken up every single time it's been asked. On this thread alone he has wild sweeping statements and refused to back them up. He opens multiple threads on the same thing (Corona virus being his current bag but it was vegans for a while with a brief interlude on how he'd kill all the sharks in the world....totally sound logic ) God I sound like a fan girl now lol it amused me for 5 mins while I get ready for work but I do suspect many are playing into his hands and even he doesn't believe half the shit he posts. | |||
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"It is only a short term thing and will soon be gone if people are sensible Oh ye of too much faith... Think of how stupid the average person is, and then realise half the population are more stupid than that. " That's a brilliant quote.. who ever came out with that.? May I use it. | |||
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"I think it’s interesting to see how the virus is spreading and the measures put in place to try and control the spread of it. It’s given me a renewed sense of admiration for Scientific and Medical services. It’s something for us all to learn from. It reminds us all that we are not untouchable. That we shouldn’t take things like our healthcare and liberty for granted. And more importantly, that we need to look out for each other. To try to ensure our wellbeing and that of others. To appreciate that life is short and to get on with living it." I think you’re right. It’s also not just about us catching it as individuals, it’s the fact we can spread it onto others who may be more vulnerable. | |||
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"Wish people would stop calling Tom a troll. He asks some good questions, opens interesting threads, can be controversial but always provides answers with sound logic. He never ever ever insults or berates anyone. We may not agree with what he says but that's the point of debate. It's quite entertaining actually. But please don't refer to him as a troll. They are horrible spiteful people. That's not Tom at all. He never posts links to the 'story' that he has read, he has avoided telling us what we should 'wake up' to or what happens once we have woken up every single time it's been asked. On this thread alone he has wild sweeping statements and refused to back them up. He opens multiple threads on the same thing (Corona virus being his current bag but it was vegans for a while with a brief interlude on how he'd kill all the sharks in the world....totally sound logic ) God I sound like a fan girl now lol it amused me for 5 mins while I get ready for work but I do suspect many are playing into his hands and even he doesn't believe half the shit he posts. " Only half ? Glad to amuse you if only for five minutes | |||
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"Apparently people with diabetes are at a higher risk of it being fatal...and men as well as the elderly" Not just diabetes Tom, other conditions too. Age is a factor too. That’s kind of obvious though for most illnesses. | |||
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"I'm more concerned about why you want sharks to get Corona virus, what have they ever done to you op?" Wipe the evil man eating buggers out.. | |||
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"Apparently people with diabetes are at a higher risk of it being fatal...and men as well as the elderly" The old and the infirm....risk groups for any seasonal respiratory viruses.....who knew | |||
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"I'm more concerned about why you want sharks to get Corona virus, what have they ever done to you op? Wipe the evil man eating buggers out.. " The chances of being eaten by a shark if you go in the sea is something like one in 8 million. I’d switch to decaf if that worries you | |||
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"There are reports of Corona jumping species to pet dogs etc.. the WHO have raised their concern to something similar to.. this is fucking serious.. If I could pick a species for the virus to spread to it would be crocodiles and sharks.. Won't happen though .. but what if a shark or crocodile feasted on a human with Corona..? Who knows.. What will the government policy be if out pet dogs catch it.. Tom gets mocked for saying Wake Up People's.. It really is time to wake up.. " More people die every day from starvation... Probably more animals have died in the Australian Bush fires... | |||
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"I'm more concerned about why you want sharks to get Corona virus, what have they ever done to you op?" Sharks are very important in the marine food chain. Without them,other species could flourish so much that coral reefs are destroyed. Humans kill hundreds of thousands of sharks every year (deliberately and cruelly), sharks kill very few people (usually accidentally, we are not on their menu). Crocodiles do kill and eat people but that's not out of spite.If you were a hungry croc and you spot someone taking a drink from your river, you'd be quite justified in doing what crocodiles do so well. Hardly evil,whereas mankind,,,,well we do tend to make a shit mess of the place. Maybe we deserve to be culled a bit, maybe viruses are just the earth fighting back. All a lot of conjecture and hypothesis but,if we are going to start calling innocent animals evil,just for having sharp teeth then maybe we,as a species, need to take a good look in the mirror. | |||
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"Apparently people with diabetes are at a higher risk of it being fatal...and men as well as the elderly The old and the infirm....risk groups for any seasonal respiratory viruses.....who knew " Not infirm people with underlying health conditions, that does not make someone infirm. | |||
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"It is only a short term thing and will soon be gone if people are sensible Oh ye of too much faith... Think of how stupid the average person is, and then realise half the population are more stupid than that. " LOL I can't help it, I always try to see the best in people, guess I'm too stupid to learn despite what I see everyday | |||
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"Apparently people with diabetes are at a higher risk of it being fatal...and men as well as the elderly The old and the infirm....risk groups for any seasonal respiratory viruses.....who knew Not infirm people with underlying health conditions, that does not make someone infirm. " What does then? | |||
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"Apparently people with diabetes are at a higher risk of it being fatal...and men as well as the elderly The old and the infirm....risk groups for any seasonal respiratory viruses.....who knew Not infirm people with underlying health conditions, that does not make someone infirm. What does then?" It's a very outdated term. asthma, diabetes, ect are in the high risk category. Most people with these conditions would not consider themselves infirm. | |||
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"Apparently people with diabetes are at a higher risk of it being fatal...and men as well as the elderly The old and the infirm....risk groups for any seasonal respiratory viruses.....who knew Not infirm people with underlying health conditions, that does not make someone infirm. What does then? It's a very outdated term. asthma, diabetes, ect are in the high risk category. Most people with these conditions would not consider themselves infirm. " No I don't but as even a mild cold wipes me out!! | |||
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"There are reports of Corona jumping species to pet dogs etc.. the WHO have raised their concern to something similar to.. this is fucking serious.. If I could pick a species for the virus to spread to it would be crocodiles and sharks.. Won't happen though .. but what if a shark or crocodile feasted on a human with Corona..? Who knows.. What will the government policy be if out pet dogs catch it.. Tom gets mocked for saying Wake Up People's.. It really is time to wake up.. " no there hasnt been reports of it jumping to pets. There was a dog that they found had traces on its nasal cavity and mouth.. from environment contamination of sharing its surrounding with its human who had the virus.... The media reported with a front page that said that it had been found in a dog.. but if you read the whole thing it tells the actual story... This led to 100s if not more animals being cruelly killed by worried pet owners... thrown from balconies etc.... when it was not even true | |||
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"I'm more concerned about why you want sharks to get Corona virus, what have they ever done to you op? Sharks are very important in the marine food chain. Without them,other species could flourish so much that coral reefs are destroyed. Humans kill hundreds of thousands of sharks every year (deliberately and cruelly), sharks kill very few people (usually accidentally, we are not on their menu). Crocodiles do kill and eat people but that's not out of spite.If you were a hungry croc and you spot someone taking a drink from your river, you'd be quite justified in doing what crocodiles do so well. Hardly evil,whereas mankind,,,,well we do tend to make a shit mess of the place. Maybe we deserve to be culled a bit, maybe viruses are just the earth fighting back. All a lot of conjecture and hypothesis but,if we are going to start calling innocent animals evil,just for having sharp teeth then maybe we,as a species, need to take a good look in the mirror." Well the T Rex had big teeth and ate everybody in sight. He was an evil bugger too. I am glad he is extinct.. imagine walking in the woods and meeting that evil bugger | |||
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"I'm more concerned about why you want sharks to get Corona virus, what have they ever done to you op? Sharks are very important in the marine food chain. Without them,other species could flourish so much that coral reefs are destroyed. Humans kill hundreds of thousands of sharks every year (deliberately and cruelly), sharks kill very few people (usually accidentally, we are not on their menu). Crocodiles do kill and eat people but that's not out of spite.If you were a hungry croc and you spot someone taking a drink from your river, you'd be quite justified in doing what crocodiles do so well. Hardly evil,whereas mankind,,,,well we do tend to make a shit mess of the place. Maybe we deserve to be culled a bit, maybe viruses are just the earth fighting back. All a lot of conjecture and hypothesis but,if we are going to start calling innocent animals evil,just for having sharp teeth then maybe we,as a species, need to take a good look in the mirror. Well the T Rex had big teeth and ate everybody in sight. He was an evil bugger too. I am glad he is extinct.. imagine walking in the woods and meeting that evil bugger" Totally different epochs | |||
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"Europe has now declared this high risk and Public Health England are saying it will spread further and wildly. The Health Minister is not ruling out closing whole towns and cities.. Wake up Peoples. This is getting more serious now.. Very Very Worrying " For you obviously | |||
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"Europe has now declared this high risk and Public Health England are saying it will spread further and wildly. The Health Minister is not ruling out closing whole towns and cities.. Wake up Peoples. This is getting more serious now.. Very Very Worrying " What would you get up to Tom self isolating? | |||
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"Europe has now declared this high risk and Public Health England are saying it will spread further and wildly. The Health Minister is not ruling out closing whole towns and cities.. Wake up Peoples. This is getting more serious now.. Very Very Worrying What would you get up to Tom self isolating? " I noticed he's still not denied being the new Essex victim | |||
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"I'm awake. And awaiting further instruction. I assume you'll be relaying what we need to do next after waking up?" Nice ass photos | |||
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"Europe has now declared this high risk and Public Health England are saying it will spread further and wildly. The Health Minister is not ruling out closing whole towns and cities.. Wake up Peoples. This is getting more serious now.. Very Very Worrying " they havent ruled it out as it makes sense if need be. Lets put it into perspective... over 89,000 cases... of which over 86'000 have recovered or are in recovery since December... Im still not worrying. Just being aware. I am actually considering making use of the plummeting holiday prices and booking another one for next month | |||
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"Out of interest I have heard the T word pronounced differently. Is there a north south divide on this. Or perhaps people on one side of the bridge pronounce it differently to the other.. " That’s a good point Troll or troale | |||
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"No worse than flu and most people don’t have flu vaccination. Just avoid public transport, stay 1.5 meters from anyone coughing or sneezing , wash hands regularly and keep them off your face and there’s practically zero risk " That is right, just what I was about to say too, everyone needs to calm down. | |||
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"No worse than flu and most people don’t have flu vaccination. Just avoid public transport, stay 1.5 meters from anyone coughing or sneezing , wash hands regularly and keep them off your face and there’s practically zero risk That is right, just what I was about to say too, everyone needs to calm down." just been shopping and a lady out 10 hand sanitizer bottles in her trolley. When she asked for more and was told they had no more it sparked an arguement with others who couldnt buy any. Normal hand wash is selling at mad amounts too. Of course they are going to raise the alerts. A bit like they do with other threats... its better to have the alert set too high. I cant believe the panic some people are getting in | |||
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"No worse than flu and most people don’t have flu vaccination. Just avoid public transport, stay 1.5 meters from anyone coughing or sneezing , wash hands regularly and keep them off your face and there’s practically zero risk That is right, just what I was about to say too, everyone needs to calm down. just been shopping and a lady out 10 hand sanitizer bottles in her trolley. When she asked for more and was told they had no more it sparked an arguement with others who couldnt buy any. Normal hand wash is selling at mad amounts too. Of course they are going to raise the alerts. A bit like they do with other threats... its better to have the alert set too high. I cant believe the panic some people are getting in " That is right and yes many bottles there, the globalists want to make money out of the situation so they are spreading fake news about it. | |||
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"No worse than flu and most people don’t have flu vaccination. Just avoid public transport, stay 1.5 meters from anyone coughing or sneezing , wash hands regularly and keep them off your face and there’s practically zero risk That is right, just what I was about to say too, everyone needs to calm down. just been shopping and a lady out 10 hand sanitizer bottles in her trolley. When she asked for more and was told they had no more it sparked an arguement with others who couldnt buy any. Normal hand wash is selling at mad amounts too. Of course they are going to raise the alerts. A bit like they do with other threats... its better to have the alert set too high. I cant believe the panic some people are getting in That is right and yes many bottles there, the globalists want to make money out of the situation so they are spreading fake news about it." I admit to having done a cupboard check.. but I mostly worried about panic buying on essential things. Ive just made sure I have things like uht milk etc. As last thing I want If people really start to panic is no milk for breakfast or a cuppa. Oh and I have plenty of toilet roll and dog and cat food in too. But I don't think a box of uht milk counts as panic buying lol. | |||
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"Manufacturers of anti bacterial hand gel must be rubbing their hands together (no pun intended) as sales through the roof. My local shop has sold out and said he's struggling to get hold of anymore. I saw Boots has limited customers to 2 bottles per person. " Vodka works equally as well and you can drink any that's left after the situation passes. | |||
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"No worse than flu and most people don’t have flu vaccination. Just avoid public transport, stay 1.5 meters from anyone coughing or sneezing , wash hands regularly and keep them off your face and there’s practically zero risk That is right, just what I was about to say too, everyone needs to calm down. just been shopping and a lady out 10 hand sanitizer bottles in her trolley. When she asked for more and was told they had no more it sparked an arguement with others who couldnt buy any. Normal hand wash is selling at mad amounts too. Of course they are going to raise the alerts. A bit like they do with other threats... its better to have the alert set too high. I cant believe the panic some people are getting in That is right and yes many bottles there, the globalists want to make money out of the situation so they are spreading fake news about it. I admit to having done a cupboard check.. but I mostly worried about panic buying on essential things. Ive just made sure I have things like uht milk etc. As last thing I want If people really start to panic is no milk for breakfast or a cuppa. Oh and I have plenty of toilet roll and dog and cat food in too. But I don't think a box of uht milk counts as panic buying lol. " Same here and yes having the essentials is the most important thing to have and that milk doesnt count as it lol. | |||
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"Manufacturers of anti bacterial hand gel must be rubbing their hands together (no pun intended) as sales through the roof. My local shop has sold out and said he's struggling to get hold of anymore. I saw Boots has limited customers to 2 bottles per person. Vodka works equally as well and you can drink any that's left after the situation passes. " | |||
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"Manufacturers of anti bacterial hand gel must be rubbing their hands together (no pun intended) as sales through the roof. My local shop has sold out and said he's struggling to get hold of anymore. I saw Boots has limited customers to 2 bottles per person. Vodka works equally as well and you can drink any that's left after the situation passes. " Cheers! | |||
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"No worse than flu and most people don’t have flu vaccination. Just avoid public transport, stay 1.5 meters from anyone coughing or sneezing , wash hands regularly and keep them off your face and there’s practically zero risk That is right, just what I was about to say too, everyone needs to calm down. just been shopping and a lady out 10 hand sanitizer bottles in her trolley. When she asked for more and was told they had no more it sparked an arguement with others who couldnt buy any. Normal hand wash is selling at mad amounts too. Of course they are going to raise the alerts. A bit like they do with other threats... its better to have the alert set too high. I cant believe the panic some people are getting in That is right and yes many bottles there, the globalists want to make money out of the situation so they are spreading fake news about it. I admit to having done a cupboard check.. but I mostly worried about panic buying on essential things. Ive just made sure I have things like uht milk etc. As last thing I want If people really start to panic is no milk for breakfast or a cuppa. Oh and I have plenty of toilet roll and dog and cat food in too. But I don't think a box of uht milk counts as panic buying lol. Same here and yes having the essentials is the most important thing to have and that milk doesnt count as it lol. " I always tend to buy in bulk as Let's face it .. we are always on the brink of one thing or another and it doesnt take much to panic people. I mean with all this virus talk the troubles in Syria are getting very little news time. I do happen to have a box of stuff in a cupboard that is basically a survival kit..but that comes out of my dad always insisting we were prepared. It's got first aid stuff. Wind up radio / charger for phones.. blankets. Long lasting food etc. Which I admit is overkill..but it's more about preparation than panic | |||
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" I do happen to have a box of stuff in a cupboard that is basically a survival kit..but that comes out of my dad always insisting we were prepared. It's got first aid stuff. Wind up radio / charger for phones.. blankets. Long lasting food etc. Which I admit is overkill..but it's more about preparation than panic " I know someone who has a Brexit box. Full of stuff. | |||
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"No worse than flu and most people don’t have flu vaccination. Just avoid public transport, stay 1.5 meters from anyone coughing or sneezing , wash hands regularly and keep them off your face and there’s practically zero risk That is right, just what I was about to say too, everyone needs to calm down. just been shopping and a lady out 10 hand sanitizer bottles in her trolley. When she asked for more and was told they had no more it sparked an arguement with others who couldnt buy any. Normal hand wash is selling at mad amounts too. Of course they are going to raise the alerts. A bit like they do with other threats... its better to have the alert set too high. I cant believe the panic some people are getting in That is right and yes many bottles there, the globalists want to make money out of the situation so they are spreading fake news about it. I admit to having done a cupboard check.. but I mostly worried about panic buying on essential things. Ive just made sure I have things like uht milk etc. As last thing I want If people really start to panic is no milk for breakfast or a cuppa. Oh and I have plenty of toilet roll and dog and cat food in too. But I don't think a box of uht milk counts as panic buying lol. Same here and yes having the essentials is the most important thing to have and that milk doesnt count as it lol. I always tend to buy in bulk as Let's face it .. we are always on the brink of one thing or another and it doesnt take much to panic people. I mean with all this virus talk the troubles in Syria are getting very little news time. I do happen to have a box of stuff in a cupboard that is basically a survival kit..but that comes out of my dad always insisting we were prepared. It's got first aid stuff. Wind up radio / charger for phones.. blankets. Long lasting food etc. Which I admit is overkill..but it's more about preparation than panic " Yes and it is good to be prepared too with basic things so you are ready if something would happened and having a wind up radio is handy as well | |||
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