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"I just don’t get it. Is she a messiah?" No. | |||
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"I just don’t get it. Is she a messiah?" No she is not the messiah she is just a very naughty girl! | |||
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"I just don’t get it. Is she a messiah?" She is not a Messiah, she just a annoying little girl. | |||
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"You don’t have to get it. She isn’t neurotypical. You’ll never “get it”. She’s right, and her crusade isn’t against the regular person, it’s against the powerful people and countries that pollute. She’ll never stop and fair play to her" As a fellow non-NT I concur. ![]() | |||
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"You don’t have to get it. She isn’t neurotypical. You’ll never “get it”. She’s right, and her crusade isn’t against the regular person, it’s against the powerful people and countries that pollute. She’ll never stop and fair play to her As a fellow non-NT I concur. ![]() Non NT? | |||
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"I just don’t get it. Is she a messiah? She is not a Messiah, she just a annoying little girl." ![]() | |||
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"Greta is 17 going on 12. She looks 12 she sounds 12 or younger. I applaud her every word. I applaud her every action. It it results in action or enlightenment then she will have done well. I detest the way history is written. Books will carry pictures of her saying that the world was in decay until Greta the Great changed it all and made it clean.... Is she totally unaware of climate care that has been taking place for decades? Are you unaware ? When I hear her say ..... well you won't change things so we will! Great Greta..... Go on then. Tell us ...... and show us how you are going to do this. " Mixed messages there from Ms Crumpet? | |||
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"Greta is 17 going on 12. She looks 12 she sounds 12 or younger. I applaud her every word. I applaud her every action. It it results in action or enlightenment then she will have done well. I detest the way history is written. Books will carry pictures of her saying that the world was in decay until Greta the Great changed it all and made it clean.... Is she totally unaware of climate care that has been taking place for decades? Are you unaware ? When I hear her say ..... well you won't change things so we will! Great Greta..... Go on then. Tell us ...... and show us how you are going to do this. Mixed messages there from Ms Crumpet? " There are no mixed messages. I applaud what she is doing. I don't agree that she is some kind of child genius who will cure anything. She's a bit Jesus like at the moment. Nothing but a prophet. | |||
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"No she is not the messiah she is just a very naughty girl! " ________________________________ That's funny ![]() "You don’t have to get it. She isn’t neurotypical. You’ll never “get it”. She’s right, and her crusade isn’t against the regular person, it’s against the powerful people and countries that pollute. She’ll never stop and fair play to her" _________________________________ That's right _________________________________ | |||
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"or was it muppet..... it was one or the other." Probably the same | |||
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"I'm willing to bed that she'll be a millionaire Nobel prize winner one day. " bet*** | |||
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"She's leader of the #socialistemergency campaign. " ![]() | |||
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"Her speeches are merely rhetorical tropes. It is good she takes an interest though. And in these modern times where everyone thinks with emotion instead of their brain she is reliant on being a child for you to listen to her. She pulls on your heart strings but does little more. I still think that she is making people aware but what will actually happen because of it remains to be seen. Politics and Business will hardly be quaking in their boots. They will listen and do enough to appease Gretaists but ffs...... money will continue to please itself. " The money is in carbon credits and renewable subsidies. "Big business" wants the money. Where does the money come from.... look in the mirror. | |||
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"Me ? Greta ? Me n Greta ? N you ? " Ay? | |||
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"Her speeches are merely rhetorical tropes. It is good she takes an interest though. And in these modern times where everyone thinks with emotion instead of their brain she is reliant on being a child for you to listen to her. She pulls on your heart strings but does little more. I still think that she is making people aware but what will actually happen because of it remains to be seen. Politics and Business will hardly be quaking in their boots. They will listen and do enough to appease Gretaists but ffs...... money will continue to please itself. " The problem is people don't like being told they are wrong, or they should or should not do something. Which is why she gets so much hate (unfairly, she is a kid learning her way). It's an irritant, lecturing, trying to shame, shouting down etc is more likely going to rub people the wrong way and push them further from your goal. They went with a tactic of using a child for manipulation but continued with the aggressive tone. | |||
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"Me ? Greta ? Me n Greta ? N you ? Ay? " Wha ? | |||
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"shes a poor uneducated girl, being used by her parents, i feel sorry for her, but her parents know she will sell more papers than they will, kids should be able to be kids" You must be a close friend of Greta and her family? | |||
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"She offers very little solution. Like a lot of children she keeps whining and stamping but offers no real solution. She doesn't really pay for anything either ...... so I guess it's okay for her to keep lecturing everybody whilst having no fooking idea of how everyone else keeps body and soul together. I wonder what Greta World will be like and what there will be for me to do,espeically when I am paying my hard earned back to the businesses that fleeced me of it in the first place.. What a wonderful big wheel we are on." Let’s be brutally honest, you aren’t her ‘target audience’ . She is looking to educate the younger generations, fair play to her, unfortunately haters will always hate | |||
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"I get what her message is, and I agree we need to do something about the state of the world. But, as others have said, I don't see her going to Moscow, Beijing, or Mumbai (I couldn't think of India's capital lol) to lead demonstrations there." Delhi | |||
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"I have no feelings for her either way, but have you noticed how she nearly always has her phone in her hand and constantly refers to it when she makes speeches? Are they notes she's looking at, or is she being "fed" her lines?" Not noticed that, no. I mean, personally, if I was speaking to international conferences and global leaders, I think I might want something to fiddle with, or notes close to hand. But I've missed when she did that. I prefer to listen what she's saying though, so I might have missed it. | |||
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"Once she's been exploited to the max and had a breakdown from all the media attention and internet trolls she will most likely end up outside the UN dousing herself in petrol with a lit match." That will add to her carbon footprint ![]() | |||
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"She's meant to be in Bristol today. Work has been dead all morning cause of her." Ironically my colleagues have told me they’ve been very busy because of her being there ![]() | |||
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"Then wht does she not protest in China or India? They are just about the worst polluters. She's being manipulated by her parents and the climate change lobbyists. Poor girl has Aspergers apparently. " Yes, she had aspergers. Not sure why that makes her a "poor girl" though. I think you'll find that China and India habe their own protesters, some who directly cite Greta as an inspiration. Yet, let's be honest, if she did go to those countries, it would simply be another reason that some people use to criticise her. | |||
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"shes a poor uneducated girl, being used by her parents, i feel sorry for her, but her parents know she will sell more papers than they will, kids should be able to be kids You must be a close friend of Greta and her family? " really!!!! | |||
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"shes a poor uneducated girl, being used by her parents, i feel sorry for her, but her parents know she will sell more papers than they will, kids should be able to be kids You must be a close friend of Greta and her family? really!!!!" Yeah, you seem to know a lot about her? Or are you just guessing? | |||
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"If she actually did something positive and organised all those other schoolkids to grab a handfull of bin bags and go and have a mass clear up of all the rubbish in their area, like modern day Wombles, I might actually listen to her.... as it is she is just a squidgy faced annoying protester...whining on and doing nothing productive. " How old are you? Do you often call 16 year old girls names? | |||
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"She offers very little solution. Like a lot of children she keeps whining and stamping but offers no real solution. She doesn't really pay for anything either ...... so I guess it's okay for her to keep lecturing everybody whilst having no fooking idea of how everyone else keeps body and soul together. I wonder what Greta World will be like and what there will be for me to do,espeically when I am paying my hard earned back to the businesses that fleeced me of it in the first place.. What a wonderful big wheel we are on. Let’s be brutally honest, you aren’t her ‘target audience’ . She is looking to educate the younger generations, fair play to her, unfortunately haters will always hate " Who hates who ? | |||
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"I am non NT. It grinds my gears when people throw this up as defence for Greta. She’s doesn’t hide behind it. " ![]() | |||
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"She offers very little solution. Like a lot of children she keeps whining and stamping but offers no real solution. She doesn't really pay for anything either ...... so I guess it's okay for her to keep lecturing everybody whilst having no fooking idea of how everyone else keeps body and soul together. I wonder what Greta World will be like and what there will be for me to do,espeically when I am paying my hard earned back to the businesses that fleeced me of it in the first place.. What a wonderful big wheel we are on. Let’s be brutally honest, you aren’t her ‘target audience’ . She is looking to educate the younger generations, fair play to her, unfortunately haters will always hate Who hates who ?" The haters, that’s who hates who | |||
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"In the UK, if parents take their kids out of school they are frequently fined up to £1,000. Gretel TunaBurger does it every Friday and now she is here inciting and encouraging kids to skip school. Shouldn’t she be arrested for being complicit in mass school absences ?" No | |||
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"How does she travel so much isn't she contributing to climate change?" Same way as you do? What is your point again? | |||
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"She offers very little solution. Like a lot of children she keeps whining and stamping but offers no real solution. She doesn't really pay for anything either ...... so I guess it's okay for her to keep lecturing everybody whilst having no fooking idea of how everyone else keeps body and soul together. I wonder what Greta World will be like and what there will be for me to do,espeically when I am paying my hard earned back to the businesses that fleeced me of it in the first place.. What a wonderful big wheel we are on. Let’s be brutally honest, you aren’t her ‘target audience’ . She is looking to educate the younger generations, fair play to her, unfortunately haters will always hate Who hates who ? The haters, that’s who hates who " That's really not an answer but I guess it's the best you have. | |||
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"NT? " Neuro Typical mate. | |||
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"She offers very little solution. Like a lot of children she keeps whining and stamping but offers no real solution. She doesn't really pay for anything either ...... so I guess it's okay for her to keep lecturing everybody whilst having no fooking idea of how everyone else keeps body and soul together. I wonder what Greta World will be like and what there will be for me to do,espeically when I am paying my hard earned back to the businesses that fleeced me of it in the first place.. What a wonderful big wheel we are on. Let’s be brutally honest, you aren’t her ‘target audience’ . She is looking to educate the younger generations, fair play to her, unfortunately haters will always hate Who hates who ? The haters, that’s who hates who That's really not an answer but I guess it's the best you have. " It was a perfectly good answer, if you dont understand ask a friend ![]() | |||
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"If she actually did something positive and organised all those other schoolkids to grab a handfull of bin bags and go and have a mass clear up of all the rubbish in their area, like modern day Wombles, I might actually listen to her.... as it is she is just a squidgy faced annoying protester...whining on and doing nothing productive. How old are you? Do you often call 16 year old girls names? " 54 and I'd have said the same if she was a boy... | |||
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"If she actually did something positive and organised all those other schoolkids to grab a handfull of bin bags and go and have a mass clear up of all the rubbish in their area, like modern day Wombles, I might actually listen to her.... as it is she is just a squidgy faced annoying protester...whining on and doing nothing productive. How old are you? Do you often call 16 year old girls names? " She's 17 ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I just don’t get it. Is she a messiah?" How dare you ![]() | |||
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"If she actually did something positive and organised all those other schoolkids to grab a handfull of bin bags and go and have a mass clear up of all the rubbish in their area, like modern day Wombles, I might actually listen to her.... as it is she is just a squidgy faced annoying protester...whining on and doing nothing productive. How old are you? Do you often call 16 year old girls names? She's 17 ![]() ![]() Is she, only 1 more year and the haters can really start insulting her ![]() | |||
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"If she actually did something positive and organised all those other schoolkids to grab a handfull of bin bags and go and have a mass clear up of all the rubbish in their area, like modern day Wombles, I might actually listen to her.... as it is she is just a squidgy faced annoying protester...whining on and doing nothing productive. How old are you? Do you often call 16 year old girls names? 54 and I'd have said the same if she was a boy... " 54 and you admit to insulting 16 year olds, most make you feel good about yourself? ![]() | |||
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"I just don’t get it. Is she a messiah? How dare you ![]() Just asking. I have no real opinion on her - good or bad. I’m puzzled how she has such an audience. Social media I guess? | |||
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"She's a young person who you may or may not agree with. You so often hear about the youth of today not caring about anything etc, expect everything on their plate. Yet when you get one who is passionate about a cause people shot her down. I may not agree with what she says, or her methods but I value that she cares." Exactly, spot on. ![]() | |||
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"If she actually did something positive and organised all those other schoolkids to grab a handfull of bin bags and go and have a mass clear up of all the rubbish in their area, like modern day Wombles, I might actually listen to her.... as it is she is just a squidgy faced annoying protester...whining on and doing nothing productive. How old are you? Do you often call 16 year old girls names? She's 17 ![]() ![]() ![]() Is there really a minimum age limit for insults in the UK? | |||
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"How does she travel so much isn't she contributing to climate change? Same way as you do? What is your point again? " Your rhetoric displays your lack of intelligence. Theres no need to be so defensive I was asking a question if you have no idea what to say you don't have to feel obligated to contribute a reply. I'm not the face of fighting climate change but I was thinking she could do video conferences instead of using long haul travel that goes against what she preaches. | |||
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"If she actually did something positive and organised all those other schoolkids to grab a handfull of bin bags and go and have a mass clear up of all the rubbish in their area, like modern day Wombles, I might actually listen to her.... as it is she is just a squidgy faced annoying protester...whining on and doing nothing productive. How old are you? Do you often call 16 year old girls names? She's 17 ![]() ![]() ![]() Legally? No. Morally? I like to hope so . | |||
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"How does she travel so much isn't she contributing to climate change?" She sails a lot. It's quite often in the news. | |||
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"I just don’t get it. Is she a messiah? How dare you ![]() Political influencers are shadow backed by investors that provide them with everything they need in return they get to preach louder than other people and benefit the investors somehow ![]() | |||
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"How does she travel so much isn't she contributing to climate change? Same way as you do? What is your point again? Your rhetoric displays your lack of intelligence. Theres no need to be so defensive I was asking a question if you have no idea what to say you don't have to feel obligated to contribute a reply. I'm not the face of fighting climate change but I was thinking she could do video conferences instead of using long haul travel that goes against what she preaches. " Ok, I will take back my defensive reply as it seems to have upset you . Yes, she could do a video conference, but I doubt it would have the same impact , we could all cycle and walk to work but first most of us that isn’t practical . She isn’t trying to change the world just make it a more eco friendly place to live . Agree or not I think that is a noble cause | |||
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"If she actually did something positive and organised all those other schoolkids to grab a handfull of bin bags and go and have a mass clear up of all the rubbish in their area, like modern day Wombles, I might actually listen to her.... as it is she is just a squidgy faced annoying protester...whining on and doing nothing productive. How old are you? Do you often call 16 year old girls names? She's 17 ![]() ![]() ![]() The fact that such things need to devolve in to insults says quite a bit more than anything else. Regardless of age of those involved. | |||
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"I just don’t get it. Is she a messiah? How dare you ![]() ![]() Does she have ‘shadow backers’ | |||
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"What gets me about this kind of discussion is the tendancy of some to label Greta as a teenage Aspie as though that's some kind of debilitation or handicap. It's often trotted out as a pejorative label disguised as an expression of sympathy aimed at undermining a viewpoint, most commonly by those who either don't understand what it truly means (as evidenced by the question: "what is NT?") or are intimidated by an intellect greater than their own. So... as an Aspie myself can I respectfully request you desist and start treating us with a bit more respect?.. after all, when it comes to intellect your average Aspie would be well justified in viewing the average NT with a degree of condescension and sympathy at their debilitating condition. " ![]() | |||
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"Then wht does she not protest in China or India? They are just about the worst polluters. She's being manipulated by her parents and the climate change lobbyists. Poor girl has Aspergers apparently. " That is a very oversimplified, and illogical take on the situation. Whilst these countries are more polluting, per capita they are actually doing pretty bloody well. Far far better than we were doing at the same point in our industrial development. I really hope you are suggesting that we should tell these nations to stay down where they belong? Less developed than us? We, the G7 etc., could certainly help them become cleaner, by giving them more knowledge and expertise in the area, but clearly Greta can't. She needs to talk to the people in the position to CHOOSE to change themselves for the better, not force others of a lower status to stay there. If you're minded to look at an absolutely amazing book on some of the subtleties around these issues, check out Factfulness by Hans Rosling. A literally life changing book. | |||
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"If she actually did something positive and organised all those other schoolkids to grab a handfull of bin bags and go and have a mass clear up of all the rubbish in their area, like modern day Wombles, I might actually listen to her.... as it is she is just a squidgy faced annoying protester...whining on and doing nothing productive. " this, there are thousands if not millions of people doing something, but not shouting about it, she has caused a debate, and that is never a bad thing, but for christ sake climb off your high horse and do something usefull, and i dread to think what her carbon footprint is like, all her travel, and yes she sails sometime, what about the toxic resins used to make that boat, you cant have it both ways | |||
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"If she actually did something positive and organised all those other schoolkids to grab a handfull of bin bags and go and have a mass clear up of all the rubbish in their area, like modern day Wombles, I might actually listen to her.... as it is she is just a squidgy faced annoying protester...whining on and doing nothing productive. this, there are thousands if not millions of people doing something, but not shouting about it, she has caused a debate, and that is never a bad thing, but for christ sake climb off your high horse and do something usefull, and i dread to think what her carbon footprint is like, all her travel, and yes she sails sometime, what about the toxic resins used to make that boat, you cant have it both ways" Very not this. | |||
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"The right-wing media hate her and Trump hates her...so I luvvvvvvv her!!!" That is as valid a reason as any other I've heard ![]() | |||
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"If she actually did something positive and organised all those other schoolkids to grab a handfull of bin bags and go and have a mass clear up of all the rubbish in their area, like modern day Wombles, I might actually listen to her.... as it is she is just a squidgy faced annoying protester...whining on and doing nothing productive. this, there are thousands if not millions of people doing something, but not shouting about it, she has caused a debate, and that is never a bad thing, but for christ sake climb off your high horse and do something usefull, and i dread to think what her carbon footprint is like, all her travel, and yes she sails sometime, what about the toxic resins used to make that boat, you cant have it both ways" Omg! toxic resins in her boat? Are you suggesting she walks everywhere wearing leaves and wooden clogs? I think she is doing something ‘useful’ you obviously don’t, can I ask what she should be doing instead? | |||
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"I just don’t get it. Is she a messiah?" Fuck Greta | |||
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"I just don’t get it. Is she a messiah? Fuck Greta " O Ricky, I was expecting something more articulate (google it) from you ![]() | |||
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"Trying to imagine her a bit older. The barnet for a start. The pigtails have got to go. Possibly a shoulder length power helmet. A hemp smock. Very sensible shoes. Espadrilles or birkenstocks. " What does this even mean? | |||
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"The right-wing media hate her and Trump hates her...so I luvvvvvvv her!!! That is as valid a reason as any other I've heard ![]() Because all reasons are bloody stupid... right? The right "hate" her as they're told to by big businesses. Cute and tragic how transparent that is. | |||
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"The right-wing media hate her and Trump hates her...so I luvvvvvvv her!!! That is as valid a reason as any other I've heard ![]() It is probably the only reason you will be able to understand ![]() | |||
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"Fuck Greta " And there we have an excellent example of my earlier point... poor chap. | |||
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"Fuck Greta And there we have an excellent example of my earlier point... poor chap." Don’t be to harsh, I think he might have Tourette’s | |||
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"Trying to imagine her a bit older. The barnet for a start. The pigtails have got to go. Possibly a shoulder length power helmet. A hemp smock. Very sensible shoes. Espadrilles or birkenstocks. " ![]() | |||
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"I think she's brilliant. She's saying listen to the scientists. What's the worst that can happen if we listen to the science? Not as individuals, but a real change in the political will " Because if the scientists are right it would require others to admit they are wrong. Can't have that happen. | |||
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"I think she's brilliant. She's saying listen to the scientists. What's the worst that can happen if we listen to the science? Not as individuals, but a real change in the political will Because if the scientists are right it would require others to admit they are wrong. Can't have that happen. " How about... Because if the scientists are right it would require others to make lower profits. Can't have that happen. | |||
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"I just don’t get it. Is she a messiah?" No, she's not a Messiah, in fact she has all the qualities of a whiney, self entitled kid, HOWEVER park that- her message and it's sentiment cannot be ignored and deriding her dims the light on the long term future of this planet and the action that needs to be taken NOW to save it! | |||
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"The right-wing media hate her and Trump hates her...so I luvvvvvvv her!!! That is as valid a reason as any other I've heard ![]() ![]() Your logic amply demonstrates why you are so in tune with a child ![]() | |||
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"I think she's brilliant. She's saying listen to the scientists. What's the worst that can happen if we listen to the science? Not as individuals, but a real change in the political will Because if the scientists are right it would require others to admit they are wrong. Can't have that happen. How about... Because if the scientists are right it would require others to make lower profits. Can't have that happen. " Pride and profits make the world as it is. | |||
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"The right-wing media hate her and Trump hates her...so I luvvvvvvv her!!! That is as valid a reason as any other I've heard ![]() ![]() ![]() There you go, I knew I was correct ![]() | |||
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"I think she's brilliant. She's saying listen to the scientists. What's the worst that can happen if we listen to the science? Not as individuals, but a real change in the political will " ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"How does she travel so much isn't she contributing to climate change? Same way as you do? What is your point again? Your rhetoric displays your lack of intelligence. Theres no need to be so defensive I was asking a question if you have no idea what to say you don't have to feel obligated to contribute a reply. I'm not the face of fighting climate change but I was thinking she could do video conferences instead of using long haul travel that goes against what she preaches. Ok, I will take back my defensive reply as it seems to have upset you . Yes, she could do a video conference, but I doubt it would have the same impact , we could all cycle and walk to work but first most of us that isn’t practical . She isn’t trying to change the world just make it a more eco friendly place to live . Agree or not I think that is a noble cause " I've always believed in climate change but I don't support gretas movement. Firstly she has the education level of a teen with no qualifications to prove that she knows in detail the climate change she talks about that leads on to my second point greta does not have a solution there are people studying this field in university to find some. What I see is the low earners and middle class being punished for something they barely contribute to, ulez zones make what difference when the rich peeps in the city with supercars dont care and rather pay the fine. Greta is affecting the middle class in the EU and makes it look like they doing something when the big polluters and cause of climate change are third world countries that couldnt give 2 shits what she says | |||
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"I wonder if it's her, or the message? Maybe if it was an old man people would listen? ![]() Yeah, with a crappy wig and orange skin ![]() | |||
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"I wonder if it's her, or the message? Maybe if it was an old man people would listen? ![]() Sir David Attenborough been talking bout it for years ![]() | |||
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"How does she travel so much isn't she contributing to climate change? Same way as you do? What is your point again? Your rhetoric displays your lack of intelligence. Theres no need to be so defensive I was asking a question if you have no idea what to say you don't have to feel obligated to contribute a reply. I'm not the face of fighting climate change but I was thinking she could do video conferences instead of using long haul travel that goes against what she preaches. Ok, I will take back my defensive reply as it seems to have upset you . Yes, she could do a video conference, but I doubt it would have the same impact , we could all cycle and walk to work but first most of us that isn’t practical . She isn’t trying to change the world just make it a more eco friendly place to live . Agree or not I think that is a noble cause I've always believed in climate change but I don't support gretas movement. Firstly she has the education level of a teen with no qualifications to prove that she knows in detail the climate change she talks about that leads on to my second point greta does not have a solution there are people studying this field in university to find some. What I see is the low earners and middle class being punished for something they barely contribute to, ulez zones make what difference when the rich peeps in the city with supercars dont care and rather pay the fine. Greta is affecting the middle class in the EU and makes it look like they doing something when the big polluters and cause of climate change are third world countries that couldnt give 2 shits what she says" Does the fact that 3rd would countries ‘don’t give 2 shits’ mean she should stop? If anything she needs to continue | |||
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"I wonder if it's her, or the message? Maybe if it was an old man people would listen? ![]() ![]() Are we suggesting she gets all the hate only because, she's a young girl? That would be a bit weird | |||
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"I wonder if it's her, or the message? Maybe if it was an old man people would listen? ![]() ![]() But he doesn’t get abuse like Greta does ![]() | |||
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"It's such as shame the greens are exploiting her, whilst her parents look on." I agree here, shes a vulnerable teen whose being exploited by adults ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I just don’t get it. Is she a messiah?" Stop giving the little scrote air time. | |||
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"The right-wing media hate her and Trump hates her...so I luvvvvvvv her!!! That is as valid a reason as any other I've heard ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() You didn't answer a pertinent question though. This is why people turn against the Gretas of this world. They talk the talk, but don't walk the walk. Do the planet a favour - turn off your electric device and go and pick up some litter ![]() | |||
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"I wonder if it's her, or the message? Maybe if it was an old man people would listen? ![]() ![]() That's absolutely a part of it. How dare a young girl tell rich men what they should be doing?! | |||
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"Greta is affecting the middle class in the EU and makes it look like they doing something when the big polluters and cause of climate change are third world countries that couldnt give 2 shits what she says" These "3rd world" countries are NOT NOT NOT the big polluters. Per capita it's a very very different picture than some simple, misleading grand totals. | |||
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"She’s got a bit of a cheek coming here preaching to us . The UK leads the world in carbon reduction targets and policies " Exactly.... she should go home and fix the weather, high cost of living and alcohol distribution instead of blaming everything on us | |||
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"Trying to imagine her a bit older. What's that got to do with how she may or may not dress in the future? The way I dress has changed over the years my ideals have not" A fair point. But the media is powerful. | |||
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"The right-wing media hate her and Trump hates her...so I luvvvvvvv her!!! That is as valid a reason as any other I've heard ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Here is a better idea, don’t throw litter on the floor then it wouldn’t need picking up. 30,000 people cane to hear her speak, around 20 people just read you post on a sex site . ![]() | |||
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"I just don’t get it. Is she a messiah? No she is not the messiah she is just a very naughty girl! " Near chok-ed on my coffee there! Bravo sir! | |||
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"She’s a prick " come on AC, you can do better than that ![]() | |||
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"I wonder if it's her, or the message? Maybe if it was an old man people would listen? ![]() ![]() Basically they have the same message but Both cater to a different audience ? | |||
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"The right-wing media hate her and Trump hates her...so I luvvvvvvv her!!! That is as valid a reason as any other I've heard ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() A typically cowardly response. | |||
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"The right-wing media hate her and Trump hates her...so I luvvvvvvv her!!! That is as valid a reason as any other I've heard ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Sometimes the talk and the walk influence each other and clearly that's the case here. Going and picking up litter INSTEAD is bloody stupid, and will achieve nothing outside of that street. So often the message is WAY more important that any specific action. I would far rather she spent a given unit of time encouraging others to do good that do good herself. And there's blatantly some form of cost associated with providing that encouragement, but the ends massively massively justify the means. | |||
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"The right-wing media hate her and Trump hates her...so I luvvvvvvv her!!!" Hahaha. Oh dear | |||
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"I just don’t get it. Is she a messiah? Stop giving the little scrote air time. " What's your view re climate change? | |||
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"She’s got a bit of a cheek coming here preaching to us " If she's preaching, she's preaching to the world, as reporting of her visit won't be limited to the UK! | |||
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"You don’t have to get it. She isn’t neurotypical. You’ll never “get it”. She’s right, and her crusade isn’t against the regular person, it’s against the powerful people and countries that pollute. She’ll never stop and fair play to her" Absolutely agree with you | |||
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"The right-wing media hate her and Trump hates her...so I luvvvvvvv her!!! That is as valid a reason as any other I've heard ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Standard response from an eco-lightweight. | |||
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"Sometimes the talk and the walk influence each other and clearly that's the case here. Going and picking up litter INSTEAD is bloody stupid, and will achieve nothing outside of that street. So often the message is WAY more important that any specific action. I would far rather she spent a given unit of time encouraging others to do good that do good herself. And there's blatantly some form of cost associated with providing that encouragement, but the ends massively massively justify the means. Standard response from an eco-lightweight." You seem to be a fan of this "snowflake tactic"... using words to state you're undermining whoever you're talking to without actually saying anything meaningful. Try actually stating something relevant rather than pretending you already have. | |||
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"Sometimes the talk and the walk influence each other and clearly that's the case here. Going and picking up litter INSTEAD is bloody stupid, and will achieve nothing outside of that street. So often the message is WAY more important that any specific action. I would far rather she spent a given unit of time encouraging others to do good that do good herself. And there's blatantly some form of cost associated with providing that encouragement, but the ends massively massively justify the means. Standard response from an eco-lightweight. You seem to be a fan of this "snowflake tactic"... using words to state you're undermining whoever you're talking to without actually saying anything meaningful. Try actually stating something relevant rather than pretending you already have." What's an "eco-lightweight"? To answer the OP. No, she isn't a messiah, she is someone who has got young people caring about their future. I 'be been listening to the radio at lunchtime and was actually embarrassed by the people of my generation criticising her and their attempts to belittle her and the school children who were at the meeting. | |||
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"I think she's brilliant. She's saying listen to the scientists. What's the worst that can happen if we listen to the science? Not as individuals, but a real change in the political will " Science is funded .... | |||
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"To answer the OP. No, she isn't a messiah, she is someone who has got young people caring about their future. I 'be been listening to the radio at lunchtime and was actually embarrassed by the people of my generation criticising her and their attempts to belittle her and the school children who were at the meeting. " It's a strange thing visible in a thousand facebook community groups up and down the land. "Bullying is a terrible thing kids, don't ever ever do it or else! Oh, until you leave school, then have at it, it's totally fine then. That's different because I'm the bully now." | |||
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"I think she's brilliant. She's saying listen to the scientists. What's the worst that can happen if we listen to the science? Not as individuals, but a real change in the political will Science is funded .... " I think that's about 31% of a point, want to complete it? | |||
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"I think she's brilliant. She's saying listen to the scientists. What's the worst that can happen if we listen to the science? Not as individuals, but a real change in the political will Science is funded .... I think that's about 31% of a point, want to complete it?" No. It's not necessary. | |||
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"I think she's brilliant. She's saying listen to the scientists. What's the worst that can happen if we listen to the science? Not as individuals, but a real change in the political will Science is funded .... I think that's about 31% of a point, want to complete it? No. It's not necessary." OK, so I guess your point is you think we think that anything that receives money to exist is ... bad..? Quite a stretch I'd suggest. | |||
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"I think she's brilliant. She's saying listen to the scientists. What's the worst that can happen if we listen to the science? Not as individuals, but a real change in the political will Science is funded .... I think that's about 31% of a point, want to complete it? No. It's not necessary." Yes it is, if you want your point to be in any way comorehensible. Otherwise I could easily say something equally obtuse like: "Breast and cervical cancer research is also funded" and leave that hanging as though it had meaning. | |||
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"I just don’t get it. Is she a messiah? Stop giving the little scrote air time. What's your view re climate change?" How dare you ![]() | |||
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"Hitler was 17 once. It didn't make him right either. " Thanks for playing along. You've unfortunately been knocked-out of this round. But please do come again. | |||
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"Fuck Greta And there we have an excellent example of my earlier point... poor chap. Don’t be to harsh, I think he might have Tourette’s " Why, have you seen him "tic" ? Or are you trying to refer to coprolalia ? Poor chap. | |||
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"Sometimes the talk and the walk influence each other and clearly that's the case here. Going and picking up litter INSTEAD is bloody stupid, and will achieve nothing outside of that street. So often the message is WAY more important that any specific action. I would far rather she spent a given unit of time encouraging others to do good that do good herself. And there's blatantly some form of cost associated with providing that encouragement, but the ends massively massively justify the means. Standard response from an eco-lightweight. You seem to be a fan of this "snowflake tactic"... using words to state you're undermining whoever you're talking to without actually saying anything meaningful. Try actually stating something relevant rather than pretending you already have." Ok, I'll try to explain it to you. I don't personally think she's making any significant difference whatsoever. She has a fantastic opportunity to make a difference because of the target audience she draws. In her speech today, not once did she reference anything that children can actually meaningfully do for the planet. Look at the pictures of the event. Look at the amount of the latest cell phones, all made from materials that cause immense damage to the ecosystems of the countries they are made in. Look at all the umbrellas, latest fashionable clothing, water bottles, coffee cup lids etc etc etc. Then look at the live feeds of the aftermath - the rubbish left behind, the costs of clean-up. Why did she not reference this? Basically, I believe she is the wrong person, saying the wrong things to the wrong people. She has the opportunity to convince kids to do the right things at their level, but wastes it. I could go on, but I have bear traps to destroy. | |||
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"You don’t have to get it. She isn’t neurotypical. You’ll never “get it”. She’s right, and her crusade isn’t against the regular person, it’s against the powerful people and countries that pollute. She’ll never stop and fair play to her" Errmm so why isnt she in china or india having a rant at them then ?? Just wondering .... | |||
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"I just don’t get it. Is she a messiah?" No, she is just a person with a passion and who actually talks sense. If anyone can give me three examples of why what she talks about (not her, or her age) is wrong then I would be very surprised. Seems people just criticize her without actually expressing why her views are wrong. | |||
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"She must have the biggest carbon footprint of any 17 year old in the whole World. Her own for all the travelling she does and those that flock to listen to her. It's all down to her. Oh , yes, today's effort trashed College Green in Bristol, turning it from a pleasant green open space in the city, into a mud bath...which now requires crowdfunding to restore it...eco-cool?" Grass'll soon grow back. Nature has a knack of regeneration. Bit of mud trodden around on a day like today seems a small price to pay for saving the planet. | |||
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"I just don’t get it. Is she a messiah? No, she is just a person with a passion and who actually talks sense. If anyone can give me three examples of why what she talks about (not her, or her age) is wrong then I would be very surprised. Seems people just criticize her without actually expressing why her views are wrong. " Spot on ![]() | |||
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"shes out of touch with the world, she should go and tell the main countrys who are the problem, not small countrys in europe. try asia china in particular who pollute and dont even recycle, like china who will just send everything to be burnt for more fuel for the factorys. everything goes in one bin does not matter what" Her message is a global one, just because she visited Bristol doesn't mean she's only addressing the people of Bristol, media coverage was universal, which wouldn't be the case if she spoke in China. | |||
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" Errmm so why isnt she in china or india having a rant at them then ?? Just wondering ...." Have you ever listened to what she actually says?! Her 'rants' are directed at world leaders, if she delivers them in Barnsley it doesn't mean she's talking exclusively to the Mayor of Barnsley! | |||
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"She is annoying. Yea there is a problem with global warming. But she is not providing solutions just shouting like a spoilt teenager. She sailed all the way to New York for a summit....how did she get home? Flew. What about the environmental impact of her mobile phone? Or is it made of tofu? Apparently there is a 17 year old lad who has invented a way of collecting all the plastic out of the oceans but cant get any airtime. Perhaps if the media organisations spent more time publicising solutions we might get something done. " She is publicising solutions, yet you call her annoying....? | |||
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" Errmm so why isnt she in china or india having a rant at them then ?? Just wondering .... Have you ever listened to what she actually says?! Her 'rants' are directed at world leaders, if she delivers them in Barnsley it doesn't mean she's talking exclusively to the Mayor of Barnsley!" ____________________________________ I think too that it would be pointless her going to these other countries, they don't want to listen, Trump doesn't even acknowledge global warming, I have no idea what the Chinese government think. Our government seems to be starting to take it seriously but in the big picture it will make little difference if the UK cleans up its act but still buys its high carbon goods from China or elsewhere. The only way they will listen in the long term is if it begins to hurt them financially and that means we and the rest of the world stop buying from these countries. So in a sense it makes more sense to campaign in the countries where she has half a chance of being listened to. Personally I find her annoying to say the least but she is right, very right and the sooner all people realise that the more chance we have of leaving an inhabitable planet for our ancestors to live on | |||
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"She offers very little solution. Like a lot of children she keeps whining and stamping but offers no real solution. She doesn't really pay for anything either ...... so I guess it's okay for her to keep lecturing everybody whilst having no fooking idea of how everyone else keeps body and soul together. I wonder what Greta World will be like and what there will be for me to do,espeically when I am paying my hard earned back to the businesses that fleeced me of it in the first place.. What a wonderful big wheel we are on." Just curious How exactly her message differs from David attenborough And he uses television to whine and indeed he does lament that humans litter with burnt fish juices too Sadly I think Greta will be counter productive due to human nature That being some are just stubborn contrarians They feel they want to do what they want to do Reasoning Fuck her heres my 1.3 mpg v8 ha ha ha There are many in palatable messages human need to hear not all have solutions yet My reasoning is I hope she can persuade the backward thinkers something must be done and that she inspires children the next generation to quest and find the solutions So here is one of her aims Persuade backward thinking leaders to invest in education and facilitates and facilitate the next generations hunger to pollute less Gosh what a pathetic ambition to breathe cleaner air Dont just get hung up on the climate change , hydrocarbon fuels pollute beyond that And we can change and improve Cfcs did destroy ozone . We are improving High sulphur shitty coal and poor combustion DID cause acid rain and the destruction of buildings trees and human health Guess what some one changed stuff and it improves High carbon atmosphere may or may not change the climate for either better or worse Distraction The chemicals and co2 in burning dino and fish juices will and are causing acidification of water and other air land and food pollution I call it littering Her message is annoying It's the same as David Its correct and poignant | |||
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" She is publicising solutions, yet you call her annoying....? " What solutions? all I have heard and seen is a shouting sulking teenager. I know, we all know, there is a climate issue. It needs to be kept in the headlines, but the way she does it annoys me. I like her have a right to my opinion. | |||
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" She is publicising solutions, yet you call her annoying....? What solutions? all I have heard and seen is a shouting sulking teenager. I know, we all know, there is a climate issue. It needs to be kept in the headlines, but the way she does it annoys me. I like her have a right to my opinion." Of course you are. As is she. What is exactly that is wrong with what she says? | |||
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"Calm down everyone. Some real smug ‘know all’s’ on here. " best post of the thread ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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" She is publicising solutions, yet you call her annoying....? What solutions? all I have heard and seen is a shouting sulking teenager. I know, we all know, there is a climate issue. It needs to be kept in the headlines, but the way she does it annoys me. I like her have a right to my opinion. Of course you are. As is she. What is exactly that is wrong with what she says? " Nothing it how she says it which makes her annoying. Has she really thought through her solutions as well, and the impact on the environment if everyone went to electric cars en mass? Where would all the precious metals come from? How would all the extra electricity required be generated? What would happen if we all went vegan overnight? Just let all the food animals die naturally? Not all farms can be utilised to grow crops. | |||
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"Rugby games are being cancelled, football matches are being played in empty stadiums, there is even talk of the whole premier league season being shut down, and what does this little idiot do? Holds a rally in a city centre for 15,000 kids. Coronavirus grand central. ![]() Well if this forum is to be believed there is no risk anyway ![]() | |||
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" She is publicising solutions, yet you call her annoying....? What solutions? all I have heard and seen is a shouting sulking teenager. I know, we all know, there is a climate issue. It needs to be kept in the headlines, but the way she does it annoys me. I like her have a right to my opinion. Of course you are. As is she. What is exactly that is wrong with what she says? Nothing it how she says it which makes her annoying. Has she really thought through her solutions as well, and the impact on the environment if everyone went to electric cars en mass? Where would all the precious metals come from? How would all the extra electricity required be generated? What would happen if we all went vegan overnight? Just let all the food animals die naturally? Not all farms can be utilised to grow crops." She has never said she holds all the solutions. She is giving a message to all, and what she says is right. Shes passionate and maybe she is aware she cant do it alone, but she is trying. I have nothing but respect for her as she is passionate and doing something about what she cares about. But people just criticize without good reason. Says more about folk than her | |||
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