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BBC news just now Gove said the best part of his job was visiting amazing schools - so if the government can blame Labour for our poor performing economy (as they haven't had enough time to turn it around yet) then surely it follows that these amazing schools were produced under Labour as the Tories educational policies haven't kicked in yet and the league tables will only reflect performance under a Labour government |
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"bit of a leap there, think it may more be due to inspirational heads and teachers?"
Ah so Labour only get the blame for bad things - but If something good happens it's down to someone else - I see how it works nows - Fact (according to Gove) these amazing schools were produced under a Labour Government |
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"bit of a leap there, think it may more be due to inspirational heads and teachers?
Ah so Labour only get the blame for bad things - but If something good happens it's down to someone else - I see how it works nows - Fact (according to Gove) these amazing schools were produced under a Labour Government"
bet he didn't visit any bad ones. |
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"bit of a leap there, think it may more be due to inspirational heads and teachers?
Ah so Labour only get the blame for bad things - but If something good happens it's down to someone else - I see how it works nows - Fact (according to Gove) these amazing schools were produced under a Labour Government"
Only someone truly indoctrinated by the ideology of the party/politics they follow would deny that the opposite were capable of doing any good.
Education is probably one of the shining beacons of success under Labour that I would say they did a good job. Many new schools were cancelled when the Coalition took over but that was down to the cuts. Personally, I wouldn't have cut those new schools and made cuts elsewhere. |
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"bit of a leap there, think it may more be due to inspirational heads and teachers?
Ah so Labour only get the blame for bad things - but If something good happens it's down to someone else - I see how it works nows - Fact (according to Gove) these amazing schools were produced under a Labour Government
Only someone truly indoctrinated by the ideology of the party/politics they follow would deny that the opposite were capable of doing any good.
Education is probably one of the shining beacons of success under Labour that I would say they did a good job. Many new schools were cancelled when the Coalition took over but that was down to the cuts. Personally, I wouldn't have cut those new schools and made cuts elsewhere."
Wishy? Are you serious? "Education is probably one of the shining beacons of success under Labour." You'll be voting Red before you know it.
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"bit of a leap there, think it may more be due to inspirational heads and teachers?
Ah so Labour only get the blame for bad things - but If something good happens it's down to someone else - I see how it works nows - Fact (according to Gove) these amazing schools were produced under a Labour Government"
Forgive me for thinking that yet again there is some 'freedom of interpretation' going on here by the OP as we have seen before elsewhere together with the only Policy Labour currently have:'Selective Amnesia'.
To call something 'amazing' is surely a comment on the 'now' rather than a summary of the past and more a compliment to those at the school and what they are trying to achieve?
This doesn't denegrate everything Labour did in education or anywhere else and I don't belive in the 'all bad all good' style of yaboo politics the 24 hour media love to create. But the Labour spin machine is still a very well oiled and effective creator of myths and hypocricy (sp) and I do deplore how they are going about politics at the moment. But credit where its due this has achieved some good local election results.
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The education system that Labour inherited from the Cons was in a pretty dire state, and investment did pay off, as it also did with the NHS.
We're now going backwards, with these 2 vitally important areas being cut, whilst we have billionaires and many FTSE companies avoiding paying tax like the plague. Shameful. |
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"The education system that Labour inherited from the Cons was in a pretty dire state, and investment did pay off, as it also did with the NHS.
We're now going backwards, with these 2 vitally important areas being cut, whilst we have billionaires and many FTSE companies avoiding paying tax like the plague. Shameful."
While not entering the historical argument I have to mention that the NHS has had spending increased in real terms but were trying to find £20billion Labour demanded be cut. And the Tories got hammered in the local elections
In Wales the Labour administration actually cut Health spending drastically. And then got an increased number of councillors.
Go figure! |
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probably they did do a good job with schools.
then again, the dumbing down of exams hasnt helped.
but if the standard of the buildings helps kids being taught then yes, they got it right.
if the pass marks kids get now are directly as valuable as they have been in the past, who knows.... |
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"BBC news just now Gove said the best part of his job was visiting amazing schools - so if the government can blame Labour for our poor performing economy (as they haven't had enough time to turn it around yet) then surely it follows that these amazing schools were produced under Labour as the Tories educational policies haven't kicked in yet and the league tables will only reflect performance under a Labour government"
I would hope educational systems improve no matter what government is in charge. We grow, we develop, we change and hopefully all for the better. |
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" Wishy? Are you serious? "Education is probably one of the shining beacons of success under Labour." You'll be voting Red before you know it.
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My old high school was demolished two year ago and they've rebuilt a spanking new one and it looks a really nice school. I only hope it stays that way as it serves a council sink estate.
Labour weren't all bad, I just wish they'd been a bit more for the people as they promised they were going to be when I voted for Blair in 97.
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Been a School Gov for 24 years - we have total control of our budget - and are responsible for spending it correctly the council have no say in what we do - they jsut give us the money - but helped with school standards - we also had to report on our spending
Academies have no financial control and do not need to report spending. They have no regular monitoring of their academic standards either (ofsted every 4 years is not good enough)
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"bit of a leap there, think it may more be due to inspirational heads and teachers?
Ah so Labour only get the blame for bad things - but If something good happens it's down to someone else - I see how it works nows - Fact (according to Gove) these amazing schools were produced under a Labour Government
Only someone truly indoctrinated by the ideology of the party/politics they follow would deny that the opposite were capable of doing any good.
Education is probably one of the shining beacons of success under Labour that I would say they did a good job. Many new schools were cancelled when the Coalition took over but that was down to the cuts. Personally, I wouldn't have cut those new schools and made cuts elsewhere.
Wishy? Are you serious? "Education is probably one of the shining beacons of success under Labour." You'll be voting Red before you know it.
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Why? I wouldn't vote Tory if you paid me, but that doesn't mean I oppose everything the Tories say and do. Re : education for example, I wholeheartedly support their decision to teach more British history to British children instead of focusing on, for example, slavery in 19th century America |
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By *xscotMan
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Mr Gove is dreaming of the Golden age of the fiftys Grammer schools educated the very brightest - including the odd kid from a poor background - the rest were consigned to secondary moderns
these did suit some kids - but most were just shoveled through
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"bit of a leap there, think it may more be due to inspirational heads and teachers?
Ah so Labour only get the blame for bad things - but If something good happens it's down to someone else - I see how it works nows - Fact (according to Gove) these amazing schools were produced under a Labour Government
Forgive me for thinking that yet again there is some 'freedom of interpretation' going on here by the OP as we have seen before elsewhere together with the only Policy Labour currently have:'Selective Amnesia'.
To call something 'amazing' is surely a comment on the 'now' rather than a summary of the past and more a compliment to those at the school and what they are trying to achieve?
This doesn't denegrate everything Labour did in education or anywhere else and I don't belive in the 'all bad all good' style of yaboo politics the 24 hour media love to create. But the Labour spin machine is still a very well oiled and effective creator of myths and hypocricy (sp) and I do deplore how they are going about politics at the moment. But credit where its due this has achieved some good local election results.
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"bit of a leap there, think it may more be due to inspirational heads and teachers?"
Totally agree ...i do not understand how the op can say such great performing schools are solely down to the labour party ...what about poor performing schools ? ..i take it the op would suggest ther possibly down to the tories ? ...all i am aware of labour doing is taking away a free further education for all by way of introducing tuition fees. |
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"BBC news just now Gove said the best part of his job was visiting amazing schools.... "
That's just his opinion...
As others said, if the policy was good, all schools would be amazing, always down to the individual schools. |
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"bit of a leap there, think it may more be due to inspirational heads and teachers?
Totally agree ...i do not understand how the op can say such great performing schools are solely down to the labour party ...what about poor performing schools ? ..i take it the op would suggest ther possibly down to the tories ? ...all i am aware of labour doing is taking away a free further education for all by way of introducing tuition fees. "
Its the teachers, governor and head that make a school good not the government. |
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Before Labour in '97 much of the talk was around terrible NHS waiting lists and kids having to share textbooks in crumbling schools, never mind a lack of computers. Labours massive investment in both these areas was always going to improve them and only the most partisan would suggest otherwise.
The problem is we have to now find efficiencies and cuts without dessimating recent advances. It's always popular when your flashing the cash and improving services, but every now and then you need to pull the reigns in. The Tories have got a thankless task, but a necessary one if you believe in austerity.
Gove is no idiot, he knows Labour did a great job with education, the question is whether he can maintain the standard in the current environment. |
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"...Labours massive investment in both these areas was always going to improve them and only the most partisan would suggest otherwise...."
Look up PFI and the true cost. |
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"Its the teachers, governor and head that make a school good not the government."
Don't underestimate the importance of the investment required. In the state system Govt and local authorities create the environment for teachers, governors and heads to achieve their goals. You need both. |
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Can I just point out that its the inspirational teachers too ....
The government didn't do much for the schools round here that's for sure .. budge t cuts and unrealistic goals
Its the teachers who work tirelessly to make it the best school ... |
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"...Labours massive investment in both these areas was always going to improve them and only the most partisan would suggest otherwise....
Look up PFI and the true cost."
Agree with your point. |
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"Can I just point out that its the inspirational teachers too ....
The government didn't do much for the schools round here that's for sure .. budge t cuts and unrealistic goals
Its the teachers who work tirelessly to make it the best school ... "
agreed. teachers and teaching assistants work their arse off whilst heads go to "meetings" in big cities for days on end and spend school budget staying swanky hotels with expensive meals. as the saying goes...'shit travels downhill'! a considerable amount of budget does not go towards educating children. same can be said of every government...everyone knows they have to balance out the overspending from the previous party, but there are far too many fat cats that get credit for the work of the actual workers 
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All labour did was make exams easier, couple that with the fact that polytechnics pass off as universities these days, the statistics are grossly exaggerated. To be able to get into "university" with three D grades at A-level, or by doing a joke course like a BTECH is an embarrassment. Universities should be for the educationally elite.
I was lucky to live in a conservative area where there were grammar schools, as my parents couldn't afford to send me and my siblings to private schools. If I had gone to the local comprehensive I have no doubt I would never have been as successful as I have been both education wise and generally in life.
Socialists can keep pretending everyone is equal but they're not. You can never stop some people being more intelligent than others. All labour seems intent on doing is bringing people down in the name of "equality" rather than helping people up the ladder.
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"All labour did was make exams easier, "
This is popular myth, the press every year since I was at school and probably before have replied to the greater number of high grade passes as "easier exams" if it was true then you wouldn't even need to write your name on the paper to get an A+ by now.
What has possibly gone wrong is focus on the exam has led to specific fact teaching rather than general education, but that is a different problem. the exams are not easier! |
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Labour did do well in education as they did ina lot other things ,but the torys(oops)conservitives on hear will lead you too believe it was all bad and every thing and the rest is a labour goverments fault , Ha and as if they have a track record to be proud of .But one thing is for certian give us a few more years of this tory lot we wont have a education system unless you can afford it ,as like NHS and a few other instatutions we have come to be proud of in britian, |
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This is popular myth, the press every year since I was at school and probably before have replied to the greater number of high grade passes as "easier exams" if it was true then you wouldn't even need to write your name on the paper to get an A+ by now. "
Not a myth at all. Take it from someone who has taken these exams.
When I was doing my GCSE's my physics teacher made us compare papers of that time(2004), to the early 80s. I would never have gotten the A* I managed to had it been the 80s.
A-levels wise I got 100% in one of my economics exams and consistently got in the 90s on many of my maths exams. to boot these are two of the harder A-levels.
These kind of results should only be achieved by elite geniuses. I mean 100% is ridiculous. Whilst I am a very intelligent person, I'm not one of the top geniuses in the country.
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"Its the teachers, governor and head that make a school good not the government.
bingo.... sometimes i hate it when stuff is used like it is some kind of political football..."
In full agreement with your post. In terms of the op i sometimes think there are active labour party members on here desperatley trying to get us to vote labour! Why you may ask. Could it be to gloss over the fact of the state of an economic nearly bankrupt country they left us with.
There will always be good and bad schools regardless of which political party is in power |
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"All labour did was make exams easier, couple that with the fact that polytechnics pass off as universities these days, the statistics are grossly exaggerated. To be able to get into "university" with three D grades at A-level, or by doing a joke course like a BTECH is an embarrassment. Universities should be for the educationally elite.
I was lucky to live in a conservative area where there were grammar schools, as my parents couldn't afford to send me and my siblings to private schools. If I had gone to the local comprehensive I have no doubt I would never have been as successful as I have been both education wise and generally in life.
Socialists can keep pretending everyone is equal but they're not. You can never stop some people being more intelligent than others. All labour seems intent on doing is bringing people down in the name of "equality" rather than helping people up the ladder.
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Your post contradicts itself.
You were fortunate enough to go to a good school and as a result have in your opinion been successful. You clearly state that had you gone to the local comprehensive you believe you would not have done as well educationally or generally in life. Does that mean your any less intelligent?
Your parents couldn't afford private school so basically if you had an off day during the 11 plus exam or lived in an area with just below average schooling you would not have reached your potential.
Your example has less to do with intelligence leading to being 'educationally elite' and more to do with geography and catchment area!
You are the constant here, this countries educational system should help you reach your full potential whatever your postcode.
It's not about the myth of making everyone equal, it's about giving everyone a fair opportunity of reaching their potential.
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"All labour did was make exams easier, couple that with the fact that polytechnics pass off as universities these days, the statistics are grossly exaggerated. To be able to get into "university" with three D grades at A-level, or by doing a joke course like a BTECH is an embarrassment. Universities should be for the educationally elite. Well said
I was lucky to live in a conservative area where there were grammar schools, as my parents couldn't afford to send me and my siblings to private schools. If I had gone to the local comprehensive I have no doubt I would never have been as successful as I have been both education wise and generally in life.
Socialists can keep pretending everyone is equal but they're not. You can never stop some people being more intelligent than others. All labour seems intent on doing is bringing people down in the name of "equality" rather than helping people up the ladder.
Your post contradicts itself.
You were fortunate enough to go to a good school and as a result have in your opinion been successful. You clearly state that had you gone to the local comprehensive you believe you would not have done as well educationally or generally in life. Does that mean your any less intelligent?
Your parents couldn't afford private school so basically if you had an off day during the 11 plus exam or lived in an area with just below average schooling you would not have reached your potential.
Your example has less to do with intelligence leading to being 'educationally elite' and more to do with geography and catchment area!
You are the constant here, this countries educational system should help you reach your full potential whatever your postcode.
It's not about the myth of making everyone equal, it's about giving everyone a fair opportunity of reaching their potential.
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"All labour did was make exams easier, couple that with the fact that polytechnics pass off as universities these days, the statistics are grossly exaggerated. To be able to get into "university" with three D grades at A-level, or by doing a joke course like a BTECH is an embarrassment. Universities should be for the educationally elite. Well said
I was lucky to live in a conservative area where there were grammar schools, as my parents couldn't afford to send me and my siblings to private schools. If I had gone to the local comprehensive I have no doubt I would never have been as successful as I have been both education wise and generally in life.
Socialists can keep pretending everyone is equal but they're not. You can never stop some people being more intelligent than others. All labour seems intent on doing is bringing people down in the name of "equality" rather than helping people up the ladder.
Your post contradicts itself.
You were fortunate enough to go to a good school and as a result have in your opinion been successful. You clearly state that had you gone to the local comprehensive you believe you would not have done as well educationally or generally in life. Does that mean your any less intelligent?
Your parents couldn't afford private school so basically if you had an off day during the 11 plus exam or lived in an area with just below average schooling you would not have reached your potential.
Your example has less to do with intelligence leading to being 'educationally elite' and more to do with geography and catchment area!
You are the constant here, this countries educational system should help you reach your full potential whatever your postcode.
It's not about the myth of making everyone equal, it's about giving everyone a fair opportunity of reaching their potential.
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Your post contradicts itself.
You were fortunate enough to go to a good school and as a result have in your opinion been successful. You clearly state that had you gone to the local comprehensive you believe you would not have done as well educationally or generally in life. Does that mean your any less intelligent?
Your parents couldn't afford private school so basically if you had an off day during the 11 plus exam or lived in an area with just below average schooling you would not have reached your potential.
Your example has less to do with intelligence leading to being 'educationally elite' and more to do with geography and catchment area!
You are the constant here, this countries educational system should help you reach your full potential whatever your postcode.
It's not about the myth of making everyone equal, it's about giving everyone a fair opportunity of reaching their potential.
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Don't think I came across properly, what you said was my point, that my intelligence would've been wasted if labour had its way.
My opinion is that the grammar school system should be in every postcode.
The last part was attacking the reasons for labours opposition of grammar schools.
It isn't giving everyone a fair chance if it's just lumping everyone together rather than being tailored to suit different people.
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"All labour did was make exams easier
The Tories scrapped O levels in the first place, and degraded A levels to suit their newer easier GCSE.
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Does it really matter who downgraded our exams?
Exams in the US are notably harder than over here in the UK and our exam system has been dumbed-down to allow more pupils to pass which then pushes a particular school, college or academy higher up the rankings tables.
With 600,000 more students applying for University places than there are available it shows clearly that more students are achieving the minimum grade passes required to get into Uni, but for many of 600,000 who found themselves without a Uni place you can be pretty sure they are the ones that just about scraped by and would probably be better off going straight out into the workplace or going for a vocational qualification or an apprenticeship, as a Uni wouldn't reject someone with perfect marks, would they?
Make GSCEs harder and then we'll get the best going to Uni and then out into the workplace with good degrees, and those that don't go to Uni can put their education behind them and start working towards whatever goals in life they have. |
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My opinion is that the grammar school system should be in every postcode.
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It did have it's flaws but the old Grammer for accademic and Secondary Modern for practicle had it's place, along with Apprenticships and many other things that have pretty much vanished in my life time.
It's not really about politics, it's about progress in thought. Successive governments of both parties (I don't count the Liberals)actually follow the same route partly following on from each other but I am convinced that actually they have the same ultimate ambitions.
In fact I would go so far as to bet that even UKIP would stay in the EU if they had one term in power.... nobody really wants to change, they just like shouting and blaming each other a lot...
As for the Labour party bankrupting the country.... NO THEY DIDN'T there was a GLOBAL collapse.... the politician I feel most sorry for is Obamma, came into power JUST as the whole lot fell around him and has taken a lot of flack for it but he didn't do it either
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It's not really about politics, it's about progress in thought.
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But in my opinion socialism isn't progressive in thought. A liberal party would be better we don't have one.
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Now do any of you over or under educated, left or right wingers fancy a shag? "
Unfortunately I'm not old enough to sleep with you, but I'm old enough to discuss politics. I'm sure there's some sort of irony there. |
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"Its the teachers, governor and head that make a school good not the government.
bingo.... sometimes i hate it when stuff is used like it is some kind of political football... In full agreement with your post. In terms of the op i sometimes think there are active labour party members on here desperatley trying to get us to vote labour! Why you may ask. Could it be to gloss over the fact of the state of an economic nearly bankrupt country they left us with.
There will always be good and bad schools regardless of which political party is in power"
I can asuure you I am not an active member of the labour party bor do I vote for them  |
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may i just say there are typical political views on here, and a definite north/south divide concerning the tories and labliars.
have yet to see a scot say they think tories do anything worthwhile, yet are happy to denegrateand tory voters that question labliars achievements, or the lack there of).
surely, if you expect one load of voters to accept your party did some decent stuff, the other lot can claim the same and you have to be similarly humble to accept the point, or is this not allowed in labliars dumbed down, nanny/police state? |
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My opinion is that the grammar school system should be in every postcode.
It did have it's flaws but the old Grammer for accademic and Secondary Modern for practicle had it's place, along with Apprenticships and many other things that have pretty much vanished in my life time.
It's not really about politics, it's about progress in thought. Successive governments of both parties (I don't count the Liberals)actually follow the same route partly following on from each other but I am convinced that actually they have the same ultimate ambitions.
In fact I would go so far as to bet that even UKIP would stay in the EU if they had one term in power.... nobody really wants to change, they just like shouting and blaming each other a lot...
As for the Labour party bankrupting the country.... NO THEY DIDN'T there was a GLOBAL collapse.... the politician I feel most sorry for is Obamma, came into power JUST as the whole lot fell around him and has taken a lot of flack for it but he didn't do it either
Now do any of you over or under educated, left or right wingers fancy a shag? "
Well said. |
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"may i just say there are typical political views on here, and a definite north/south divide concerning the tories and labliars.
have yet to see a scot say they think tories do anything worthwhile, yet are happy to denegrateand tory voters that question labliars achievements, or the lack there of).
surely, if you expect one load of voters to accept your party did some decent stuff, the other lot can claim the same and you have to be similarly humble to accept the point, or is this not allowed in labliars dumbed down, nanny/police state?"
Well that seems like a nice balenced view |
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My opinion is that the grammar school system should be in every postcode.
It did have it's flaws but the old Grammer for accademic and Secondary Modern for practicle had it's place, along with Apprenticships and many other things that have pretty much vanished in my life time.
It's not really about politics, it's about progress in thought. Successive governments of both parties (I don't count the Liberals)actually follow the same route partly following on from each other but I am convinced that actually they have the same ultimate ambitions.
In fact I would go so far as to bet that even UKIP would stay in the EU if they had one term in power.... nobody really wants to change, they just like shouting and blaming each other a lot...
As for the Labour party bankrupting the country.... NO THEY DIDN'T there was a GLOBAL collapse.... the politician I feel most sorry for is Obamma, came into power JUST as the whole lot fell around him and has taken a lot of flack for it but he didn't do it either
Now do any of you over or under educated, left or right wingers fancy a shag?
Well said. "
Yes fair enough it was a global collapse brought about by labour policies such as mr brown said there be no boom and bust on my watch.
I take it he must have dozed of becuse on his watch he allowed the british banking industry to do as they liked with our money, which happened to be giving out mortgages that anyone could see the lenders didnt have a hope of paying back.
By handing over the treasury to eddie george and the bank of england prior to Mr Brown thinking it a good idea to sell of our rainy day money ie our gold reserves at a ridicoulous low price given the current gold market at the time.
Did i happen to mention the billions labour pay to europe for example to pay french farmers subsiduries. |
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Did i happen to mention the billions labour pay to europe for example to pay french farmers subsiduries. "
You need to swot up on the Common Agricultural Policy. France get a lot of subsidies because they have a larger land mass available to farming than we do - whether they actually use all that land is another matter. As for the UK, we have a rather substantial rebate negotiated by Mrs Thatcher that France have been trying to claw back for decades. We are one of the largest contributors sure, but without us the CAP would collapse and we'd have the market flooded with cheaper French & German imports driving British competitors out of business. If you look at it that way, the govt are propping up British business by contributing to the CAP, and at the same time forcing a % of France's fields to lie fallow year after year while British goods are exported. |
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I can only say for Peterborough but within the last 5 years we have had three new secondary schools built (academy type schools) and we have a new purpose built Autism school which will be completed by 2013 all funding past threw the labour government. Plus the new super hospital so we have had a load of funding with in my area all good stuff. Yes labour did over spend and now we are all paying the price of it with cuts, cuts, cuts. |
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"Yes labour did over spend and now we are all paying the price of it with cuts, cuts, cuts."
But the cuts won't be those three new schools and a spanking new hospital. Perterborough did well out of the Labour govt to get them but, as you say, they now have to be paid for. |
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"Yes labour did over spend and now we are all paying the price of it with cuts, cuts, cuts.
But the cuts won't be those three new schools and a spanking new hospital. Perterborough did well out of the Labour govt to get them but, as you say, they now have to be paid for."
Yes the schools are thriving and all the other schools have been extended and updated. I can't complain. |
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I could have told you that years ago 