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Do you believe in God and if so, are we bound for hell.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I am an atheist so the answer is no to both questions. But some people I've met do have some religious believes. I'm curious how you reconcile this belief and swinging x. Please don't use this thread to hate on religion, we are all entitled to our own beliefs x |
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Nope, I was brought up to be religious as a kid and went to a church of England school where I was fed a daily diet of bible stories, prayers and hymns, but at some point in my early teens I completely abandoned it and my views have only become more entrenched with age. I keep my opinions to myself around religious people but it baffles me how people believe in it. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I was brought up to be religious. I find it odd how my views have changed. I remembered when I first masturbated I almost got put off thinking god might watch and disapprove |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Yes I do and that's my sin my judgement, so leave god to the church, upsets me when people ask silly question especially when both subjects are at either side of mirror.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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What makes it a silly question? I think there is far more silly questions that get asked on these forums. Appreciate this one might hit a sensitive nerve though |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I do.
More specifically, I suppose, I believe in an afterlife. I just know that personally if I felt that those I've lost in my life are forever gone then I would struggle with that.
Call me naive or silly but it helps me and that's all that matters 
As for reconciling being on 'Fab', I know that it doesn't define me as a person. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"What makes it a silly question? I think there is far more silly questions that get asked on these forums. Appreciate this one might hit a sensitive nerve though "
There is a place for religion, a place for politics and a place for sex, that's it fabswingers site for sex, politics that's it in houses of parliament, and religion in a church.
I don't goto church, I believe we all answer to what we do in our life that's part of the deal of being given knowledge. You spoil the moment pal anyway gods a alien. So what do say about that lol |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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The question I asked about religion was in the context of swinging. If I did believe in God still, I don't think I'd class sex out of marriage as a sin. I'd just think the no sex outside of marriage came about because it would cause a lot of social issues to have sex with multiple partners before precautions became easily accessible. I think if God did exist. He wouldn't be interested in people having consensual sex with all the other things that go on in the world. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"We are all sinners, so we will all go to hell. Except the atheist, as there is no such place as hell? Where is my copy of the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy! "
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I've been listening to that on audio book at night after I have read a regular book. I still haven't got passed where Arthur Dent shares 6 pints of beer because the voice is so relaxing. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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If I'm going to hell for what I've done then maybe I'll like hell.
If God exists then I want a word tbh, because I'm not convinced they have the moral high ground. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The question I asked about religion was in the context of swinging. If I did believe in God still, I don't think I'd class sex out of marriage as a sin. I'd just think the no sex outside of marriage came about because it would cause a lot of social issues to have sex with multiple partners before precautions became easily accessible. I think if God did exist. He wouldn't be interested in people having consensual sex with all the other things that go on in the world. "
Its called the human condition, respect what you are doing, respect who you are doing it with.
Your spiritual but religion prevents you from connecting to your innerself, that's okay we are allowed to your human |
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By *adetMan
over a year ago
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"The question I asked about religion was in the context of swinging. If I did believe in God still, I don't think I'd class sex out of marriage as a sin. I'd just think the no sex outside of marriage came about because it would cause a lot of social issues to have sex with multiple partners before precautions became easily accessible. I think if God did exist. He wouldn't be interested in people having consensual sex with all the other things that go on in the world. "
I think you're confusing having a belief in God with having belief in religion
Religion is very obviously man made and you could also argue that belief in God is too |
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By *adetMan
over a year ago
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"If you believe in God, how can you believe in Hell? God is all forgiving?
I don't believe Hell or heaven exist. "
Which god is all forgiving? Just read the old testament. Its pretty horrific |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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No I don’t believe what you do or don’t do affects anything. As far as religion goes I’m agnostic. I definitely don’t believe in horoscopes, Karma and all that kind of stuff though. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"As long as there are somes anuses to pound during weekends
By the sound of it heaven would be full of assholes"
Assholes you would have the right to pound roughly with seasalt |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I was brought up by religious family mum and dad were both Catholic but events in my life have led me to belive their is no God sorry if that causes offence but if we had a god so much evil would not happen |
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By *adetMan
over a year ago
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"As long as there are somes anuses to pound during weekends
By the sound of it heaven would be full of assholes
Assholes you would have the right to pound roughly with seasalt"
And watermelons as far as the eye can see |
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By *VineMan
over a year ago
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Hell as pictured like Dante’s inferno is not in the bible. There is no mention of hell in the Old Testament and the word that most often gets translated as hell in the New Testament is Gehenna which is the name of a place outside Jerusalem. Hell as a place of eternal damnation is not biblical. It was invented later on to scare people into believing. So, no I don’t believe in it. |
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By *adetMan
over a year ago
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"Hell as pictured like Dante’s inferno is not in the bible. There is no mention of hell in the Old Testament and the word that most often gets translated as hell in the New Testament is Gehenna which is the name of a place outside Jerusalem. Hell as a place of eternal damnation is not biblical. It was invented later on to scare people into believing. So, no I don’t believe in it. "
Hell is described very vividly in the new testament. The revelation of St John? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I was brought up by religious family mum and dad were both Catholic but events in my life have led me to belive their is no God sorry if that causes offence but if we had a god so much evil would not happen "
I was brought up going to church myself but in a protestant household and I wasnt convinced that those preaching to me about Christ were not convinced themselves and it was just what they did. One guy I do remember a long time ago took me to the side and spoke openly, warmly and direct to me and told me about taking Jesus Christ as his saviour and that his power was in your belief in him. That you will only meet your maker when you die and until then you had to live your life in his praise. Only that one guy sounded like he was convinced while everyone else gave their sermon and then got the hell out of dodge and about their life. I went for about 8 years maybe up until I was 16 and the last 2 years were because there was a youth club who had a great indoor football team I played on 
Cool story bro |
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By *VineMan
over a year ago
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"Hell as pictured like Dante’s inferno is not in the bible. There is no mention of hell in the Old Testament and the word that most often gets translated as hell in the New Testament is Gehenna which is the name of a place outside Jerusalem. Hell as a place of eternal damnation is not biblical. It was invented later on to scare people into believing. So, no I don’t believe in it.
Hell is described very vividly in the new testament. The revelation of St John?"
Revelation is highly metaphorical not literal. |
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By *adetMan
over a year ago
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"I was brought up by religious family mum and dad were both Catholic but events in my life have led me to belive their is no God sorry if that causes offence but if we had a god so much evil would not happen
I was brought up going to church myself but in a protestant household and I wasnt convinced that those preaching to me about Christ were not convinced themselves and it was just what they did. One guy I do remember a long time ago took me to the side and spoke openly, warmly and direct to me and told me about taking Jesus Christ as his saviour and that his power was in your belief in him. That you will only meet your maker when you die and until then you had to live your life in his praise. Only that one guy sounded like he was convinced while everyone else gave their sermon and then got the hell out of dodge and about their life. I went for about 8 years maybe up until I was 16 and the last 2 years were because there was a youth club who had a great indoor football team I played on
Cool story bro "
Same for me. Looking back I remember being aware that even the people telling me that I should believe this stuff clearly didn't believe it themselves |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"As long as there are somes anuses to pound during weekends
By the sound of it heaven would be full of assholes
Assholes you would have the right to pound roughly with seasalt
And watermelons as far as the eye can see "
Hell yeah!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"You are born and you die...
There have been around 3000 gods that people have worshipped and I'm fairly sure no one has met any of them. "
Ask my last veri and you might hear differently  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"You are born and you die...
There have been around 3000 gods that people have worshipped and I'm fairly sure no one has met any of them.
Ask my last veri and you might hear differently "
Ok 3001 with 1 confirmed sighting near Heathrow |
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I am a card-carrying atheist. That doesn't mean I believe there is no god (although I do lean that way), it just means insufficient evidence has been presented to me to make the god hypothesis worth taking seriousl. |
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
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It’s a good question. Some religions are based on a relationship and sine based on following rules, if you’re in one of the latter I’d safely say you’re going boil for eternity, if your in former , just keep being nice, love your neighbour and virgins await you |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I was brought up by religious family mum and dad were both Catholic but events in my life have led me to belive their is no God sorry if that causes offence but if we had a god so much evil would not happen
I was brought up going to church myself but in a protestant household and I wasnt convinced that those preaching to me about Christ were not convinced themselves and it was just what they did. One guy I do remember a long time ago took me to the side and spoke openly, warmly and direct to me and told me about taking Jesus Christ as his saviour and that his power was in your belief in him. That you will only meet your maker when you die and until then you had to live your life in his praise. Only that one guy sounded like he was convinced while everyone else gave their sermon and then got the hell out of dodge and about their life. I went for about 8 years maybe up until I was 16 and the last 2 years were because there was a youth club who had a great indoor football team I played on
Cool story bro "
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By (user no longer on site)
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It’s hard to believe there is a god who created everything when it’s been more or less proven that everything was created with the Big Bang
But I do believe religious teachings are very good for all of us I’m not saying we should follow them word for word but if we were all kind and considerate of each other as most religions promote then what’s wrong with that however it’s worded or portrayed |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It’s hard to believe there is a god who created everything when it’s been more or less proven that everything was created with the Big Bang
But I do believe religious teachings are very good for all of us I’m not saying we should follow them word for word but if we were all kind and considerate of each other as most religions promote then what’s wrong with that however it’s worded or portrayed "
Has it realy been proven that everything was created with a big bang? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'm a church going Christian.
Am I following the bible and Christian teaching to letter... No
Do I believe I'm going to hell or God doesn't love me... No
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I am an atheist so the answer is no to both questions. But some people I've met do have some religious believes. I'm curious how you reconcile this belief and swinging x. Please don't use this thread to hate on religion, we are all entitled to our own beliefs x"
Personally I was was brought up in a world where there are many different cultures and all with their own gods, even gods appear throughout human history who are different.
I dont know if any or which one is right...
So, I just think if i live my life being respectful, help others and be as nice a guy as I can and believe I'll find out which one is right when I get there.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It’s hard to believe there is a god who created everything when it’s been more or less proven that everything was created with the Big Bang
But I do believe religious teachings are very good for all of us I’m not saying we should follow them word for word but if we were all kind and considerate of each other as most religions promote then what’s wrong with that however it’s worded or portrayed
Has it realy been proven that everything was created with a big bang? "
No it hasn't.
I find it much easier to believe we were created for a reason than my accident. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Which religions say that you cannot have sex ? Or can't have multiple partners?"
virgin Mary said it a lot........... well until everyone started calling her Mary    |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It’s hard to believe there is a god who created everything when it’s been more or less proven that everything was created with the Big Bang
But I do believe religious teachings are very good for all of us I’m not saying we should follow them word for word but if we were all kind and considerate of each other as most religions promote then what’s wrong with that however it’s worded or portrayed
Has it realy been proven that everything was created with a big bang?
No it hasn't.
I find it much easier to believe we were created for a reason than my accident. "
I said more or less been proven and by that I mean based on facts and studies into the history of the cosmos and not just beliefs written in old scriptures but I also said following religious ideals is a good thing |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It’s hard to believe there is a god who created everything when it’s been more or less proven that everything was created with the Big Bang
But I do believe religious teachings are very good for all of us I’m not saying we should follow them word for word but if we were all kind and considerate of each other as most religions promote then what’s wrong with that however it’s worded or portrayed
Has it realy been proven that everything was created with a big bang?
No it hasn't.
I find it much easier to believe we were created for a reason than my accident.
I said more or less been proven and by that I mean based on facts and studies into the history of the cosmos and not just beliefs written in old scriptures but I also said following religious ideals is a good thing "
You can't have it both ways.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It’s hard to believe there is a god who created everything when it’s been more or less proven that everything was created with the Big Bang
But I do believe religious teachings are very good for all of us I’m not saying we should follow them word for word but if we were all kind and considerate of each other as most religions promote then what’s wrong with that however it’s worded or portrayed
Has it realy been proven that everything was created with a big bang?
No it hasn't.
I find it much easier to believe we were created for a reason than my accident.
I said more or less been proven and by that I mean based on facts and studies into the history of the cosmos and not just beliefs written in old scriptures but I also said following religious ideals is a good thing
You can't have it both ways.
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You don’t have to but I can |
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I had a gentleman knock on the door about religion a few weeks back.
I asked him who do i have to hate.
He said you wont have to hate anyone.
I told him that my view of religion was that if my belief contradicts someone elses then we would abviously clash before we even know that person personally.
They may be the nicest person on the planet but because our beliefs differ then i cant become friends with them.
I then asked him what would happen in this world if nobody had any religion at all.
He thought about it but i added there would be no conflict no hate no killing eachother in the name of a god so therefore it would equate to world peace.
He said ive never thought of it like that.
I said if you dont mind ill pass on your offer and remain non religious and non judgmental about other people.
He turned away and just said goodnight. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It’s hard to believe there is a god who created everything when it’s been more or less proven that everything was created with the Big Bang
But I do believe religious teachings are very good for all of us I’m not saying we should follow them word for word but if we were all kind and considerate of each other as most religions promote then what’s wrong with that however it’s worded or portrayed
Has it realy been proven that everything was created with a big bang?
No it hasn't.
I find it much easier to believe we were created for a reason than my accident.
I said more or less been proven and by that I mean based on facts and studies into the history of the cosmos and not just beliefs written in old scriptures but I also said following religious ideals is a good thing
You can't have it both ways.
You don’t have to but I can "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It’s hard to believe there is a god who created everything when it’s been more or less proven that everything was created with the Big Bang
But I do believe religious teachings are very good for all of us I’m not saying we should follow them word for word but if we were all kind and considerate of each other as most religions promote then what’s wrong with that however it’s worded or portrayed
Has it realy been proven that everything was created with a big bang?
No it hasn't.
I find it much easier to believe we were created for a reason than my accident.
I said more or less been proven and by that I mean based on facts and studies into the history of the cosmos and not just beliefs written in old scriptures but I also said following religious ideals is a good thing
You can't have it both ways.
You don’t have to but I can
That doesn't even make sense "
Sorry but it does to me |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If you believe in God, how can you believe in Hell? God is all forgiving?
I don't believe Hell or heaven exist. "
Its not hot coals and pokers which I would enjoy, or a guy/girl/any other it's the essence of all that is wrong, this essence only exist on planet. God life pool of light which excists in all of us, why we should not be given.
Okay all we get through life is grieve passing of loved ones, wars, crime, drugs everything that upsets humanity as a whole. That's why I wager my believe In a higher power of the cosmos against my next journey to after life.
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Fuck there more following( if he is a man) on this site today what would he think about that.****
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By *quirrelMan
over a year ago
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Got to ask, which God are you referring to?
There's 18 major religions in the world each with their own definition of a god.
If you're thinking about Christianity then you will have to know that Christianity is split into two definitions, the faith and the religion.
As a religion it's a rule book which gives the steps that you need to take to get closer to god. It's basically a way for "Sinners" to repent and work towards being in God's presence when they move on from this world to the next.
As a faith, Christianity is defined as you being a part of the "Big plan. Everything you do is done through God's will, you believe or have faith that God is working through you and therefore whatever you do isn't a sin if it has not been done through any of the original sins.
Sex is mentioned in the bible, but, In both positive and negative references.
The old testament was written in a different age where a woman was the property of a man, so having sex with another man's wife was considered theft.
Paul the disciple of Christ wrote "All things are lawful for me, but not all things are profitable.” In other words, we are free from the constraints of any religion or legal system, as a result of our having believed in Christ Jesus and what He has done for us.
Nevertheless, we are not free from bad, immoral or illicit behaviour that might bring harm to us, our family, our neighbour and so on.
That is, we may steal and not be damned to Hell, but don’t be surprised if you have to face a punishment from society for your crime.
faith based Christianity doesn't condemn the swinging lifestyle.
But some actions we take in our use of freedom to do whatever we want can present real messes for us, so we are expected to act with a little wisdom. And,that is the problem, the decision we make for ourselves are looked upon differently by some people or couples than it does for others.
And included in this is swinging which may work fine for some marriages but certainly could be disastrous for other where it is corrosive and harmful.
If couples can go swinging without bringing harm to their marriages, spouses, families, friends and neighbours it's certainly no on else’s business but our own.
Sorry if this is a rather large post, but there's no short answer to any of
Life's problems.
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By *adetMan
over a year ago
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There is no evidence for the existence of god nor has there ever been
There is however an overwhelming amount of evidence for humans propensity to create something that will make them feel better about things and also explain their existence
On the subject of morality- religion gets its teachings and moral codes from humans, we do not get it from religion. When humans really followed the teachings of the holy books the world was an absolute horror show
Only now that religion has pretty much been humbled by scientific discovery has it had to become more tolerant and admit that it actually doesn't have all the answers. This the reason that people now refer to their religion as their 'faith'. In other words they know there is no evidence for their beliefs but they are going to believe them none the less |
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"There is no evidence for the existence of god nor has there ever been
There is however an overwhelming amount of evidence for humans propensity to create something that will make them feel better about things and also explain their existence
On the subject of morality- religion gets its teachings and moral codes from humans, we do not get it from religion. When humans really followed the teachings of the holy books the world was an absolute horror show
Only now that religion has pretty much been humbled by scientific discovery has it had to become more tolerant and admit that it actually doesn't have all the answers. This the reason that people now refer to their religion as their 'faith'. In other words they know there is no evidence for their beliefs but they are going to believe them none the less"
Yep |
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"There is no evidence for the existence of god nor has there ever been
There is however an overwhelming amount of evidence for humans propensity to create something that will make them feel better about things and also explain their existence
On the subject of morality- religion gets its teachings and moral codes from humans, we do not get it from religion. When humans really followed the teachings of the holy books the world was an absolute horror show
Only now that religion has pretty much been humbled by scientific discovery has it had to become more tolerant and admit that it actually doesn't have all the answers. This the reason that people now refer to their religion as their 'faith'. In other words they know there is no evidence for their beliefs but they are going to believe them none the less"
Boom! |
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"I am an atheist so the answer is no to both questions. But some people I've met do have some religious believes. I'm curious how you reconcile this belief and swinging x. Please don't use this thread to hate on religion, we are all entitled to our own beliefs x"
As regards the question ,part A.. l do believe and part B.. l'm in the " Judge not and you shall not be Judged " camp. |
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"Which religions say that you cannot have sex ? Or can't have multiple partners?"
All of the abrahamic ones at least imply multiple partners and same sex should be frowned upon
Now obviously much in those texts is rightly ignored by many belivers as not God's intention and many can hope their abrahamic God exists within a more forgiving framework
Thus it could be fair to say that the ambiguity of the texts is often(aherm clarified) by humans who actually hold the disdain for multiple partners
There are possibly 2 parts to knowing about religious beliefs
One we can all read and see all of the doctrines and indeed within some texts a rational argument could be made that the deity holds disdain for a number of human behaviours
However although many adopt a taste for a particular religious flavour many reason the text is not the whole truth and positively fill in what their equally valid idea of an all mighty creator would really think
This is why while most (insert faith here) declare an allegiance to a flavour they quite legitimately do not need to follow the written doctrine to it's often contradictory letter infact it would be nigh on impossible to follow one rule without perhaps bending another
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"There is no evidence for the existence of god nor has there ever been
There is however an overwhelming amount of evidence for humans propensity to create something that will make them feel better about things and also explain their existence
On the subject of morality- religion gets its teachings and moral codes from humans, we do not get it from religion. When humans really followed the teachings of the holy books the world was an absolute horror show
Only now that religion has pretty much been humbled by scientific discovery has it had to become more tolerant and admit that it actually doesn't have all the answers. This the reason that people now refer to their religion as their 'faith'. In other words they know there is no evidence for their beliefs but they are going to believe them none the less"
I'm quoting it all, but the first sentence says it all in my opinion |
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I’d say I’m vaguely spiritual rather than religious. I don’t agree or approve of organised religion. It’s not for any other person to tell me what I ought to be doing or believe in. I’m more Zhedi than anything. |
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"I believe in energy, to some it’s God.
I’m not to invested in man’s version of events in all these books, nice stories though "
I dont get the energy and God link
I know energy exists
I'm aware of its infinite power
I see zero evidence or correlation with a sentient creator
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I think it most likely that when the physical brain, which carries our life and personality, dies, that we are no more, whatever we have believed beforehand.
As we'd thus be an organic entity, subject to the constraints of chemistry etc, just as other life is, anything as inconsequential as swinging, sex etc is immaterial. We're subject to evolutionary principles, will likely become extinct as a species, as will the thousands of religions that people created. The universe will continue a while and we're as small as if nothing. Sex means zilch to the universe. |
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"I believe in energy, to some it’s God.
I’m not to invested in man’s version of events in all these books, nice stories though
I dont get the energy and God link
I know energy exists
I'm aware of its infinite power
I see zero evidence or correlation with a sentient creator
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I don’t think people with faith or beliefs need evidence or correlations. Probably the opposite. |
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"I think it most likely that when the physical brain, which carries our life and personality, dies, that we are no more, whatever we have believed beforehand.
As we'd thus be an organic entity, subject to the constraints of chemistry etc, just as other life is, anything as inconsequential as swinging, sex etc is immaterial. We're subject to evolutionary principles, will likely become extinct as a species, as will the thousands of religions that people created. The universe will continue a while and we're as small as if nothing. Sex means zilch to the universe. "
Fuck and wow I’ll have a pint of whatever your drinking...., spot on |
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"It’s hard to believe there is a god who created everything when it’s been more or less proven that everything was created with the Big Bang
But I do believe religious teachings are very good for all of us I’m not saying we should follow them word for word but if we were all kind and considerate of each other as most religions promote then what’s wrong with that however it’s worded or portrayed
Has it realy been proven that everything was created with a big bang? "
No
But lots of evidence up to t minus 1 million years
You may want to research
Light
Red shift
Telescopes
Radio
Electromagnetism
And a number of other subjects then you may understand the statistical plausibility of a near singularity
Btw I dont "believe " in the big bang but I do understand the implications behind the observations of expansion
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"I think it most likely that when the physical brain, which carries our life and personality, dies, that we are no more, whatever we have believed beforehand.
As we'd thus be an organic entity, subject to the constraints of chemistry etc, just as other life is, anything as inconsequential as swinging, sex etc is immaterial. We're subject to evolutionary principles, will likely become extinct as a species, as will the thousands of religions that people created. The universe will continue a while and we're as small as if nothing. Sex means zilch to the universe. "
The Law of conservation of energy states that the total energy of an isolated system remains constant; it is said to be conserved over time. This law means that energy can neither be created nor destroyed; rather, it can only be transformed or transferred from one form to another. Therefore, the electrical energy that are your thoughts must be transformed into something. Do you therefore become not ‘no more’ simply something else? |
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"I believe in energy, to some it’s God.
I’m not to invested in man’s version of events in all these books, nice stories though
I dont get the energy and God link
I know energy exists
I'm aware of its infinite power
I see zero evidence or correlation with a sentient creator
I don’t think people with faith or beliefs need evidence or correlations. Probably the opposite. "
They do if they wish to communicate with me 
Ie tell me
" God exists" God is energy
We have a semantic problem
I know energy exists
God has a separate definition of creator
Energy is just that and it exists without any evidenced sentient creator ability
I know energy made the universe
I debate the notion it thought about it first
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"I think it most likely that when the physical brain, which carries our life and personality, dies, that we are no more, whatever we have believed beforehand.
As we'd thus be an organic entity, subject to the constraints of chemistry etc, just as other life is, anything as inconsequential as swinging, sex etc is immaterial. We're subject to evolutionary principles, will likely become extinct as a species, as will the thousands of religions that people created. The universe will continue a while and we're as small as if nothing. Sex means zilch to the universe.
The Law of conservation of energy states that the total energy of an isolated system remains constant; it is said to be conserved over time. This law means that energy can neither be created nor destroyed; rather, it can only be transformed or transferred from one form to another. Therefore, the electrical energy that are your thoughts must be transformed into something. Do you therefore become not ‘no more’ simply something else? "
Yea but when you cum do your toes clench? |
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"I believe in energy, to some it’s God.
I’m not to invested in man’s version of events in all these books, nice stories though
I dont get the energy and God link
I know energy exists
I'm aware of its infinite power
I see zero evidence or correlation with a sentient creator
I don’t think people with faith or beliefs need evidence or correlations. Probably the opposite.
They do if they wish to communicate with me
Ie tell me
" God exists" God is energy
We have a semantic problem
I know energy exists
God has a separate definition of creator
Energy is just that and it exists without any evidenced sentient creator ability
I know energy made the universe
I debate the notion it thought about it first
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I don’t buy the man made ‘god’ creation either but i can see how some who do would correlate it to what i believe is why were here...energy. |
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"I believe in energy, to some it’s God.
I’m not to invested in man’s version of events in all these books, nice stories though
I dont get the energy and God link
I know energy exists
I'm aware of its infinite power
I see zero evidence or correlation with a sentient creator
I don’t think people with faith or beliefs need evidence or correlations. Probably the opposite.
They do if they wish to communicate with me
Ie tell me
" God exists" God is energy
We have a semantic problem
I know energy exists
God has a separate definition of creator
Energy is just that and it exists without any evidenced sentient creator ability
I know energy made the universe
I debate the notion it thought about it first
I don’t buy the man made ‘god’ creation either but i can see how some who do would correlate it to what i believe is why were here...energy."
I ain’t got the energy to wank at the moment |
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"I think it most likely that when the physical brain, which carries our life and personality, dies, that we are no more, whatever we have believed beforehand.
As we'd thus be an organic entity, subject to the constraints of chemistry etc, just as other life is, anything as inconsequential as swinging, sex etc is immaterial. We're subject to evolutionary principles, will likely become extinct as a species, as will the thousands of religions that people created. The universe will continue a while and we're as small as if nothing. Sex means zilch to the universe.
The Law of conservation of energy states that the total energy of an isolated system remains constant; it is said to be conserved over time. This law means that energy can neither be created nor destroyed; rather, it can only be transformed or transferred from one form to another. Therefore, the electrical energy that are your thoughts must be transformed into something. Do you therefore become not ‘no more’ simply something else? "
Steve nice idea however the facts are
Fats proteins and carbohydrates are our fuel
In the body they power via a number of mechanisms various processes not exclusive to
Movement,fuel storage, heat , PD aka electricity .
The normal result of electric flowing will be electromagnetic waves or infra red light heat
So yes the data processed can be envisioned by a living brain and at death the energy will dissipate as heat but not containing any rational data
Energy as you said changes form and the laws of entropy dictate in which direction
From order to dis order
From data to no data
From hot fast to cold slow
The conservation of energy argument holds zero to assist spirituality or a creator |
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"The only thing I believe in is myself
I take it you have no children.....??"
Yes I do and a grandchild. Thank you, I believed in myself to raise them and I did, pretty much on my own. Yes I believe in them, obviously |
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I'm a believer but I quit the church some years ago as I couldn't reconcile their preaching with my more liberal views. And in particular when I was asked to sign a petition against same sex marriage.
And as a rugby fanatic, don't even get me started on Israel Folau.
As for going to hell, I'll take my chances but the church always taught me, "good people don't go to heaven, forgiven people do". |
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"I believe in energy, to some it’s God.
I’m not to invested in man’s version of events in all these books, nice stories though
I dont get the energy and God link
I know energy exists
I'm aware of its infinite power
I see zero evidence or correlation with a sentient creator
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There are many types of energy, in the two broad categories of kinetic and potential. That there are more as yet undiscovered forms is possible. Energy is infinite and indestructible, but can change form. "God" could exist in a transitional realm. |
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I come from a deeply religious family , it’s not my bag and never has been, but I can see how it can give comfort and meaning to people in times of trouble , mother Mary came to me speaking words of wisdom , let it be ! , bollocks , I started out being so sincere! |
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I believe, but I don't follow any religions. I still pray in moderation. e.g. When people I care about pass away, or travel abroad, or when someone starts a new job. No harm in asking the Lord for strength. Helps to boost confidence and get through hard times. Must admit I did pray the first time I went to a swinger's club. Had no idea what to expect as I was a young lad and quite inexperienced. After my first threesome I cleaned up the room afterwards and you know that moment when you cum and everything seems clearer to you and you can't believe what you just did. Well, I did have a little prayer afterwards. It was my first threesome afterall with a married couple. I figured, most of us are just having sex purely out of impulse. It is an uncontrollable biological urge which we can't overcome and we can't think straight until we've acted on it. In the old days they had 'rigid self control'. Nowadays - Easier said than done because the accessibility is much greater now than it ever was before, which makes the temptation much harder to resist.  My brother, sister, and Dad (divorced) have all been to swinger clubs. We certainly are an oversexed family.  |
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I keep an open mind, so concede that God may exist.
If he does though and is concerned enough about our behaviour and moral codes to split us into the wheat and the chaff in the afterlife, I'm pretty sure with all the murdering and torture going on in the world he won't give two fucks as to who sticks their plonker in who.
Particularly if it harms no one and indeed gives more pleasure to all...
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"i belive for every drop of rain that falls a peanut grows, i believe in miracles till they around, i believe in the tooth fairy and santa Claus  "
they come |
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over a year ago
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"There is no evidence for the existence of god nor has there ever been
There is however an overwhelming amount of evidence for humans propensity to create something that will make them feel better about things and also explain their existence
On the subject of morality- religion gets its teachings and moral codes from humans, we do not get it from religion. When humans really followed the teachings of the holy books the world was an absolute horror show
Only now that religion has pretty much been humbled by scientific discovery has it had to become more tolerant and admit that it actually doesn't have all the answers. This the reason that people now refer to their religion as their 'faith'. In other words they know there is no evidence for their beliefs but they are going to believe them none the less"
It’s not quite like that. Religion is a set of cultural practices to follow in the hope that by doing so you are judged as a better person. Faith is belief through choice. I’m not religious but I have faith that the future will be good, and there’s a reason to my existence, I simply choose to believe it and when things get tough it keeps me strong and prevents despair and worry |
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"I believe in energy, to some it’s God.
I’m not to invested in man’s version of events in all these books, nice stories though
I dont get the energy and God link
I know energy exists
I'm aware of its infinite power
I see zero evidence or correlation with a sentient creator
There are many types of energy, in the two broad categories of kinetic and potential. That there are more as yet undiscovered forms is possible. Energy is infinite and indestructible, but can change form. "God" could exist in a transitional realm."
My friend you dont need to explain about energy to me
It matters not if an energy is known or not god it ain't
God is defined as sentient creator
The made up guess you suggest does not equate that energy undiscovered may exist and that could be god
There is zero doubt that if a sentient creator existed IT would have total control of all energy in all forms
What the debate when concerning a God actually existing boils down to is not the form rather is sentient creator traits evidenced and does that sentience want humans to do as it (designed)
Many who want a gid to exist use the (energy) misdirection to suggest they believe in something
A, potentially tangible
B, far from any organised religious doctrine
C, to feel close to trees and the natural world
However
I'm an atheist
I know energy flows through the universe
I feel very close to mountains sea and trees
I know nature communicates with itself via many channels some energy some chemical many being discovered
Non of the above however fulfill anything close to a sentient designer then creator
I understand the statistics that overwhelming suggest humans are not the only sentient beings in the universe (ie alien life)
I dont even doubt that in parts of the universe an energy system has become sentient however unless it is THE fundamental creator it would be an alien and not a god
So no suggesting God is energy is just a twee misdirection or misnomer
Regardless of the form it may take the God debate is one of abilities and attributes not form
And its 2 fundamental one are
Fundamental first move creator
AND that it has sentience , the ability to design and orchestrate with deliberate reasoned intent
Again zero data for any intelligent design x |
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over a year ago
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"There is no evidence for the existence of god nor has there ever been
There is however an overwhelming amount of evidence for humans propensity to create something that will make them feel better about things and also explain their existence
On the subject of morality- religion gets its teachings and moral codes from humans, we do not get it from religion. When humans really followed the teachings of the holy books the world was an absolute horror show
Only now that religion has pretty much been humbled by scientific discovery has it had to become more tolerant and admit that it actually doesn't have all the answers. This the reason that people now refer to their religion as their 'faith'. In other words they know there is no evidence for their beliefs but they are going to believe them none the less
It’s not quite like that. Religion is a set of cultural practices to follow in the hope that by doing so you are judged as a better person. Faith is belief through choice. I’m not religious but I have faith that the future will be good, and there’s a reason to my existence, I simply choose to believe it and when things get tough it keeps me strong and prevents despair and worry "
That's why they refer to it as a 'a leap of faith' Theres no evidence for any of these propositions but you want to believe them so you choose to. That's fine but I prefer to believe in something because there is evidence for it not because it might make me feel better |
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