I tell my children that swearing is for stupid people who do not have enough vocabulary to articulate themselves properly!
now is it just me and / or call me old-fashioned but I find there to be so much swearing and unnecessary profanity in music lyrics recently
The use of words such as bitches and hoes motherfuckers another negative racial terms i find to be in most cases unnecessary and often downright offensive.
whilst I understand this some cases it would be necessary to convey what the artist is trying to communicate to the listener, in most cases I just find it ridiculous. I am not sure if this is because controversy sells & sex sells or they think it’s big and clever, I’m not quite sure, but from lady gaga to dave and stormzy & Pretty much every genre in-between it now seems to be the norm rather than the exception!
love anyones thoughts on this!
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I don't think it's controversy for the sake of sales, in most cases. A small percentage will be, and it's obvious in those cases because it stands out awkwardly...
But for most, it's about connection to the audience. Any genre of music carries it's own particular discourse; ways in which artist and fans alike communicate as a community. The artists naturally adopt much of this lexicon as means to convey their message and, in some genres, the lexicon is seemingly more aggressive or forward.
You can't sound like you're from the streets unless you sound like you're from the streets. Stuff like that.
As for swearing as a general idea: I love expressive words. Swearing does that. So I love swearing.  |
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"I tell my children that swearing is for stupid people who do not have enough vocabulary to articulate themselves properly!
now is it just me and / or call me old-fashioned but I find there to be so much swearing and unnecessary profanity in music lyrics recently
The use of words such as bitches and hoes motherfuckers another negative racial terms i find to be in most cases unnecessary and often downright offensive.
whilst I understand this some cases it would be necessary to convey what the artist is trying to communicate to the listener, in most cases I just find it ridiculous. I am not sure if this is because controversy sells & sex sells or they think it’s big and clever, I’m not quite sure, but from lady gaga to dave and stormzy & Pretty much every genre in-between it now seems to be the norm rather than the exception!
love anyones thoughts on this!
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"I don't think it's controversy for the sake of sales, in most cases. A small percentage will be, and it's obvious in those cases because it stands out awkwardly...
But for most, it's about connection to the audience. Any genre of music carries it's own particular discourse; ways in which artist and fans alike communicate as a community. The artists naturally adopt much of this lexicon as means to convey their message and, in some genres, the lexicon is seemingly more aggressive or forward.
You can't sound like you're from the streets unless you sound like you're from the streets. Stuff like that.
As for swearing as a general idea: I love expressive words. Swearing does that. So I love swearing. "
I disagree their music doesn't not need the repeated nasty use of hoe or bitches
If you're trying to tell us the " streets" are full of misogynistic thugs then this needs to be countered with messages telling " the kids" being a misogynist thug is a very poor ambition for a human |
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"I don't think it's controversy for the sake of sales, in most cases. A small percentage will be, and it's obvious in those cases because it stands out awkwardly...
But for most, it's about connection to the audience. Any genre of music carries it's own particular discourse; ways in which artist and fans alike communicate as a community. The artists naturally adopt much of this lexicon as means to convey their message and, in some genres, the lexicon is seemingly more aggressive or forward.
You can't sound like you're from the streets unless you sound like you're from the streets. Stuff like that.
As for swearing as a general idea: I love expressive words. Swearing does that. So I love swearing.
I disagree their music doesn't not need the repeated nasty use of hoe or bitches
If you're trying to tell us the " streets" are full of misogynistic thugs then this needs to be countered with messages telling " the kids" being a misogynist thug is a very poor ambition for a human "
The streets are full of kids who want a voice, and they'll find that voice in their idols.
There's as many good messages as bad out there in most genres of music and the use of swearing is prevalant in both cases.
My point is simply: swearing isn't used to incite, but to connect. When it is used to incite the message is diluted, as is the connection.
But that's just one way to look at it. The OP instills positive values in raising his children and that goes a lot further than some song with a parental advisory. |
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I was listening to a song "Come baby Come" by K7 and it suddenly dawned on me after all these years that it was sexual: "Two balls and a bat, a pitcher with a hat, Slidin' into home base, tryin' to hit a home run..."
Compared to Bruno Mars and Cardi B, Please Me, with the lyrics, "dinner reservation for the pussy you're going to eat out".
I'm certainly no prude, I just think "artists" are trying to shock. Wouldn't have heard Luther singing about bitches and hoes! |
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It's not all bitches and hoes though, look at someone like Lana del Ray for example. F bombs all over the place but fucking beautiful . I'd say about 80% of my most listened to probably needs parental advisory. |
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Regrettably swearing is so commonplace today that its entered all media.
My son didn't learn to swear from the playground, but from watching YouTube videos by gamers
I try and limit him as much as possible, usual bans and time outs, but it still slips out when he's gaming with his friends
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"It's not all bitches and hoes though, look at someone like Lana del Ray for example. F bombs all over the place but fucking beautiful . I'd say about 80% of my most listened to probably needs parental advisory."
I have no issue with swearing
I do have issues with misogynistic influencers
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Some of the people I know who swear the most are the most intelligent and articulate going.
Art represents life. So I've no issue with profanity in songs, books, stand up comedy or films.
The misogynistic stuff? Just shows the character of the person saying/typing it.
Just watch a Sarah Millican or Jimmy Carr gig.
Funny as fuck and often very I telligent content too.
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Actually studies have shown that people who swear more are on average more intelligent that people that don't.
Obviously this doesn't excuse kids from swearing though |
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"Actually studies have shown that people who swear more are on average more intelligent that people that don't.
Obviously this doesn't excuse kids from swearing though"
It's about knowing when to use profanity, and who you are with , and who's the audience .
I know most of you lot in here dont give a fuck if I swear  |
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"Actually studies have shown that people who swear more are on average more intelligent that people that don't.
Obviously this doesn't excuse kids from swearing though
It's about knowing when to use profanity, and who you are with , and who's the audience .
I know most of you lot in here dont give a fuck if I swear "
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"Actually studies have shown that people who swear more are on average more intelligent that people that don't.
Obviously this doesn't excuse kids from swearing though
It's about knowing when to use profanity, and who you are with , and who's the audience .
I know most of you lot in here dont give a fuck if I swear
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