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"This is getting worrying.. Towns and university closed " were are you | |||
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"It's getting serious now.. " Donald trump says its not | |||
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"It's getting serious now.. " It’s not really though is it. No more than before? | |||
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"This is getting worrying.. Towns and university closed " Maybe you need counselling for your worry levels OP. | |||
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"This is getting worrying.. Towns and university closed Maybe you need counselling for your worry levels OP." Well worry if your community is in lockdown.. whole towns and university in Italy.. It's escalating | |||
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"This is getting worrying.. Towns and university closed Maybe you need counselling for your worry levels OP. Well worry if your community is in lockdown.. whole towns and university in Italy.. It's escalating" I was watching news clips earlier from Italy some had masks on some didn't some had paper suits on some didn’t is it really a mass panic should I buy more shares in pharmaceutical company’s ? Tbh I think it’s nothing to panic about as I’ve said before every 45 minutes some one dies of prostate cancer them stats worry me | |||
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"Whole towns cordened off.? Can you leave freely.. ? If not then very worrying " well if that’s what they need to do to contain a mass outbreak then so be it nothing we can do about it | |||
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"This is getting worrying.. Towns and university closed Maybe you need counselling for your worry levels OP. Well worry if your community is in lockdown.. whole towns and university in Italy.. It's escalating" You said it... WORRY if YOUR community is in lockdown Nowhere in the UK is in lockdown except the specialist quarantine facility. So stop worrying about something that is very unlikely to affect you OP | |||
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"You’ve been worried for ages! " Seriously worried..  | |||
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"This is getting worrying.. Towns and university closed Maybe you need counselling for your worry levels OP. Well worry if your community is in lockdown.. whole towns and university in Italy.. It's escalating You said it... WORRY if YOUR community is in lockdown Nowhere in the UK is in lockdown except the specialist quarantine facility. So stop worrying about something that is very unlikely to affect you OP " It may be coming to a town near you soon sweetie.. Of course, no need to worry.. | |||
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"As I said before it's scare mongering " there has been very little talk of it. And I've been to Italy in the last few days and currently not that far away from it now x Not even heard about it here x | |||
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"As I said before it's scare mongering " It feckin scares the shit out of me | |||
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"Whole towns cordened off.? Can you leave freely.. ? If not then very worrying " But you're not there so you can probably stop stockpiling tinned and dry goods. | |||
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"This is getting worrying.. Towns and university closed Maybe you need counselling for your worry levels OP. Well worry if your community is in lockdown.. whole towns and university in Italy.. It's escalating You said it... WORRY if YOUR community is in lockdown Nowhere in the UK is in lockdown except the specialist quarantine facility. So stop worrying about something that is very unlikely to affect you OP It may be coming to a town near you soon sweetie.. Of course, no need to worry.." No there isn’t because life is to short to worry about things that aren’t affecting me. You can feel for those that are now quarantined un their towns, but it is for the best and to stop the spread of any possible virus. It’s all precautions and not time for us to don the yellow suits and worry It’s the flu at the end of the day and happens every year ! | |||
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"Check out sky news Wake up people.. They can enforce a quarantine on a town " Yep and I totally agree with it if it's what's needed. You honestly need to look at it reasonably without your mind going into overdrive. | |||
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"This is getting worrying.. Towns and university closed Maybe you need counselling for your worry levels OP. Well worry if your community is in lockdown.. whole towns and university in Italy.. It's escalating You said it... WORRY if YOUR community is in lockdown Nowhere in the UK is in lockdown except the specialist quarantine facility. So stop worrying about something that is very unlikely to affect you OP It may be coming to a town near you soon sweetie.. Of course, no need to worry.. No there isn’t because life is to short to worry about things that aren’t affecting me. You can feel for those that are now quarantined un their towns, but it is for the best and to stop the spread of any possible virus. It’s all precautions and not time for us to don the yellow suits and worry It’s the flu at the end of the day and happens every year ! " So who enforces the cordon on towns.. and with what means ? Think about it .. | |||
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"Check out sky news Wake up people.. They can enforce a quarantine on a town " They can but the chance of it coming to your, mine or anyone else town is very very slim. Why worry, if it happens it happens | |||
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"Check out sky news Wake up people.. They can enforce a quarantine on a town They can but the chance of it coming to your, mine or anyone else town is very very slim. Why worry, if it happens it happens " Do you care about a community in Italy ? | |||
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"This is getting worrying.. Towns and university closed Maybe you need counselling for your worry levels OP. Well worry if your community is in lockdown.. whole towns and university in Italy.. It's escalating You said it... WORRY if YOUR community is in lockdown Nowhere in the UK is in lockdown except the specialist quarantine facility. So stop worrying about something that is very unlikely to affect you OP It may be coming to a town near you soon sweetie.. Of course, no need to worry.. No there isn’t because life is to short to worry about things that aren’t affecting me. You can feel for those that are now quarantined un their towns, but it is for the best and to stop the spread of any possible virus. It’s all precautions and not time for us to don the yellow suits and worry It’s the flu at the end of the day and happens every year ! So who enforces the cordon on towns.. and with what means ? Think about it .." I don’t need to, not my job to do that. If it happens where I live, I’ll follow whatever they put in place. | |||
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"This is getting worrying.. Towns and university closed Maybe you need counselling for your worry levels OP. Well worry if your community is in lockdown.. whole towns and university in Italy.. It's escalating You said it... WORRY if YOUR community is in lockdown Nowhere in the UK is in lockdown except the specialist quarantine facility. So stop worrying about something that is very unlikely to affect you OP It may be coming to a town near you soon sweetie.. Of course, no need to worry.. No there isn’t because life is to short to worry about things that aren’t affecting me. You can feel for those that are now quarantined un their towns, but it is for the best and to stop the spread of any possible virus. It’s all precautions and not time for us to don the yellow suits and worry It’s the flu at the end of the day and happens every year ! So who enforces the cordon on towns.. and with what means ? Think about it .." Have you heard of people being gunned down in the street? Have you heard about anything of the sort? No, because it isn't happening, most other people are looking at it sensibly abd realising that it's the best course of action to prevent the spread of the virus. | |||
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"This is getting worrying.. Towns and university closed Maybe you need counselling for your worry levels OP. Well worry if your community is in lockdown.. whole towns and university in Italy.. It's escalating You said it... WORRY if YOUR community is in lockdown Nowhere in the UK is in lockdown except the specialist quarantine facility. So stop worrying about something that is very unlikely to affect you OP It may be coming to a town near you soon sweetie.. Of course, no need to worry.. No there isn’t because life is to short to worry about things that aren’t affecting me. You can feel for those that are now quarantined un their towns, but it is for the best and to stop the spread of any possible virus. It’s all precautions and not time for us to don the yellow suits and worry It’s the flu at the end of the day and happens every year ! So who enforces the cordon on towns.. and with what means ? Think about it .. I don’t need to, not my job to do that. If it happens where I live, I’ll follow whatever they put in place. " So why worry about fellow European citizens locked down in a small town in Italy ? | |||
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"This is getting worrying.. Towns and university closed Maybe you need counselling for your worry levels OP. Well worry if your community is in lockdown.. whole towns and university in Italy.. It's escalating You said it... WORRY if YOUR community is in lockdown Nowhere in the UK is in lockdown except the specialist quarantine facility. So stop worrying about something that is very unlikely to affect you OP It may be coming to a town near you soon sweetie.. Of course, no need to worry.. No there isn’t because life is to short to worry about things that aren’t affecting me. You can feel for those that are now quarantined un their towns, but it is for the best and to stop the spread of any possible virus. It’s all precautions and not time for us to don the yellow suits and worry It’s the flu at the end of the day and happens every year ! So who enforces the cordon on towns.. and with what means ? Think about it .. I don’t need to, not my job to do that. If it happens where I live, I’ll follow whatever they put in place. So why worry about fellow European citizens locked down in a small town in Italy ? " Is it affecting you? | |||
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"This is getting worrying.. Towns and university closed Maybe you need counselling for your worry levels OP. Well worry if your community is in lockdown.. whole towns and university in Italy.. It's escalating You said it... WORRY if YOUR community is in lockdown Nowhere in the UK is in lockdown except the specialist quarantine facility. So stop worrying about something that is very unlikely to affect you OP It may be coming to a town near you soon sweetie.. Of course, no need to worry.. No there isn’t because life is to short to worry about things that aren’t affecting me. You can feel for those that are now quarantined un their towns, but it is for the best and to stop the spread of any possible virus. It’s all precautions and not time for us to don the yellow suits and worry It’s the flu at the end of the day and happens every year ! So who enforces the cordon on towns.. and with what means ? Think about it .. Have you heard of people being gunned down in the street? Have you heard about anything of the sort? No, because it isn't happening, most other people are looking at it sensibly abd realising that it's the best course of action to prevent the spread of the virus. " Wait n see sweetheart .. | |||
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"This is getting worrying.. Towns and university closed Maybe you need counselling for your worry levels OP. Well worry if your community is in lockdown.. whole towns and university in Italy.. It's escalating You said it... WORRY if YOUR community is in lockdown Nowhere in the UK is in lockdown except the specialist quarantine facility. So stop worrying about something that is very unlikely to affect you OP It may be coming to a town near you soon sweetie.. Of course, no need to worry.. No there isn’t because life is to short to worry about things that aren’t affecting me. You can feel for those that are now quarantined un their towns, but it is for the best and to stop the spread of any possible virus. It’s all precautions and not time for us to don the yellow suits and worry It’s the flu at the end of the day and happens every year ! So who enforces the cordon on towns.. and with what means ? Think about it .. I don’t need to, not my job to do that. If it happens where I live, I’ll follow whatever they put in place. So why worry about fellow European citizens locked down in a small town in Italy ? Is it affecting you? " Are you saying.. fuck the rest? | |||
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"This is getting worrying.. Towns and university closed Maybe you need counselling for your worry levels OP. Well worry if your community is in lockdown.. whole towns and university in Italy.. It's escalating You said it... WORRY if YOUR community is in lockdown Nowhere in the UK is in lockdown except the specialist quarantine facility. So stop worrying about something that is very unlikely to affect you OP It may be coming to a town near you soon sweetie.. Of course, no need to worry.. No there isn’t because life is to short to worry about things that aren’t affecting me. You can feel for those that are now quarantined un their towns, but it is for the best and to stop the spread of any possible virus. It’s all precautions and not time for us to don the yellow suits and worry It’s the flu at the end of the day and happens every year ! So who enforces the cordon on towns.. and with what means ? Think about it .. Have you heard of people being gunned down in the street? Have you heard about anything of the sort? No, because it isn't happening, most other people are looking at it sensibly abd realising that it's the best course of action to prevent the spread of the virus. Wait n see sweetheart .." You've been saying this for weeks, I'm still waiting for your apocalyptic dreams to come true but we're all still here. | |||
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"Check out sky news Wake up people.. They can enforce a quarantine on a town They can but the chance of it coming to your, mine or anyone else town is very very slim. Why worry, if it happens it happens Do you care about a community in Italy ?" Not really no | |||
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"This is getting worrying.. Towns and university closed Maybe you need counselling for your worry levels OP. Well worry if your community is in lockdown.. whole towns and university in Italy.. It's escalating You said it... WORRY if YOUR community is in lockdown Nowhere in the UK is in lockdown except the specialist quarantine facility. So stop worrying about something that is very unlikely to affect you OP It may be coming to a town near you soon sweetie.. Of course, no need to worry.. No there isn’t because life is to short to worry about things that aren’t affecting me. You can feel for those that are now quarantined un their towns, but it is for the best and to stop the spread of any possible virus. It’s all precautions and not time for us to don the yellow suits and worry It’s the flu at the end of the day and happens every year ! So who enforces the cordon on towns.. and with what means ? Think about it .. I don’t need to, not my job to do that. If it happens where I live, I’ll follow whatever they put in place. So why worry about fellow European citizens locked down in a small town in Italy ? Is it affecting you? Are you saying.. fuck the rest?" No, I'm saying worry when you actually need to and stop being a drama llama lol.  | |||
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"This is getting worrying.. Towns and university closed Maybe you need counselling for your worry levels OP. Well worry if your community is in lockdown.. whole towns and university in Italy.. It's escalating You said it... WORRY if YOUR community is in lockdown Nowhere in the UK is in lockdown except the specialist quarantine facility. So stop worrying about something that is very unlikely to affect you OP It may be coming to a town near you soon sweetie.. Of course, no need to worry.. No there isn’t because life is to short to worry about things that aren’t affecting me. You can feel for those that are now quarantined un their towns, but it is for the best and to stop the spread of any possible virus. It’s all precautions and not time for us to don the yellow suits and worry It’s the flu at the end of the day and happens every year ! So who enforces the cordon on towns.. and with what means ? Think about it .. I don’t need to, not my job to do that. If it happens where I live, I’ll follow whatever they put in place. So why worry about fellow European citizens locked down in a small town in Italy ? " I didn’t say I was worried about the Italian town.... read again Feel does not mean worry ! | |||
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"Check out sky news Wake up people.. They can enforce a quarantine on a town They can but the chance of it coming to your, mine or anyone else town is very very slim. Why worry, if it happens it happens Do you care about a community in Italy ? Not really no" Fair play to you. You have stated your position | |||
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"Check out sky news Wake up people.. They can enforce a quarantine on a town " You’d best stay clear of Preston. My daughter has just got back from skiing in Italy and she flew from Venice, Marco Polo | |||
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"Check out sky news Wake up people.. They can enforce a quarantine on a town You’d best stay clear of Preston. My daughter has just got back from skiing in Italy and she flew from Venice, Marco Polo "Headless chicken time! | |||
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"Check out sky news Wake up people.. They can enforce a quarantine on a town You’d best stay clear of Preston. My daughter has just got back from skiing in Italy and she flew from Venice, Marco Polo "To be fair there are worse viruses and diseases floating around Preston than COVID-19 | |||
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"Check out sky news Wake up people.. They can enforce a quarantine on a town You’d best stay clear of Preston. My daughter has just got back from skiing in Italy and she flew from Venice, Marco Polo
To be fair there are worse viruses and diseases floating around Preston than COVID-19"At this point. And if it mutates ? | |||
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"My question is this... If a whole town is in quarantine then who enforces it.. Is it self policed ? Probably not. Is it enforced by police ? Not enough of them. Is it enforced by the military? Are they army? It's fucking serious Wake up peoples. " Who cares ! | |||
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"My question is this... If a whole town is in quarantine then who enforces it.. Is it self policed ? Probably not. Is it enforced by police ? Not enough of them. Is it enforced by the military? Are they army? It's fucking serious Wake up peoples. Who cares ! " You don't care ? | |||
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"My question is this... If a whole town is in quarantine then who enforces it.. Is it self policed ? Probably not. Is it enforced by police ? Not enough of them. Is it enforced by the military? Are they army? It's fucking serious Wake up peoples. " It's not here so why are you panicking? | |||
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"I’m really concerned. In the meantime I’ll just have another bud thanks." Maybe your last | |||
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"This is getting worrying.. Towns and university closed Maybe you need counselling for your worry levels OP. Well worry if your community is in lockdown.. whole towns and university in Italy.. It's escalating" You are in Colchester. In Essex. In England. | |||
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"My question is this... If a whole town is in quarantine then who enforces it.. Is it self policed ? Probably not. Is it enforced by police ? Not enough of them. Is it enforced by the military? Are they army? It's fucking serious Wake up peoples. It's not here so why are you panicking? " Yet... | |||
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"This is getting worrying.. Towns and university closed Maybe you need counselling for your worry levels OP. Well worry if your community is in lockdown.. whole towns and university in Italy.. It's escalating You are in Colchester. In Essex. In England." A short flight from Italy.. | |||
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"My question is this... If a whole town is in quarantine then who enforces it.. Is it self policed ? Probably not. Is it enforced by police ? Not enough of them. Is it enforced by the military? Are they army? It's fucking serious Wake up peoples. It's not here so why are you panicking? Yet..." Honestly, you're just being ridiculous. | |||
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"My question is this... If a whole town is in quarantine then who enforces it.. Is it self policed ? Probably not. Is it enforced by police ? Not enough of them. Is it enforced by the military? Are they army? It's fucking serious Wake up peoples. Who cares ! You don't care ?" I’m bored of repeating myself... good luck with your worrying OP, it’s really not good for your health ! | |||
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"I dont see the need to panic. Be aware by all means but no need to panic x " I am not panicking but bricking it... | |||
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"Its already here.. do you read the news ?" And it's been contained, because people are acting sensibly and not panicking | |||
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"I’m really concerned. In the meantime I’ll just have another bud thanks. Maybe your last " I had another whilst you were typing. | |||
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"Its already here.. do you read the news ? And it's been contained, because people are acting sensibly and not panicking "Yes. Containment meaning whole towns cut off .. Wake up peoples.. Imagine yourself in one of those towns | |||
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"I’m really concerned. In the meantime I’ll just have another bud thanks. Maybe your last I had another whilst you were typing." Finish the case | |||
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"This is getting worrying.. Towns and university closed Maybe you need counselling for your worry levels OP. Well worry if your community is in lockdown.. whole towns and university in Italy.. It's escalating You are in Colchester. In Essex. In England. A short flight from Italy.. " when arriving at the airports there are signs about the virus.... it also suggests being more aware of personal hand hygiene above all else. But why panic about it. These things happen. To be fair more people are going to be hurt or killed by panic about this than the disease.... look at the buses being targeted just because they have Chinese people oh it | |||
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"I dont see the need to panic. Be aware by all means but no need to panic x I am not panicking but bricking it..." why are you scared? | |||
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"Its already here.. do you read the news ? And it's been contained, because people are acting sensibly and not panicking
Yes. Containment meaning whole towns cut off ..
Wake up peoples..
Imagine yourself in one of those towns"But I'm not so I don't need to worry about it. I'd be more worried about the nervous breakdown you're likely to have if you don't calm yourself down. | |||
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"This is getting worrying.. Towns and university closed Maybe you need counselling for your worry levels OP. Well worry if your community is in lockdown.. whole towns and university in Italy.. It's escalating You are in Colchester. In Essex. In England. A short flight from Italy.. " But your "worry," is a massively disproportionate response to a distant issue. | |||
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"Its already here.. do you read the news ? And it's been contained, because people are acting sensibly and not panicking
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Wake up peoples..
Imagine yourself in one of those towns"Why? Why would you do that to yourself? | |||
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"It’s very likely we will all get it, but that doesn’t mean your going to die from it, it’ll only kill the older and weaker people, those with pre existing medical conditions like me.." And me.. | |||
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"I dont see the need to panic. Be aware by all means but no need to panic x I am not panicking but bricking it... why are you scared? " It's slightly more dangerous than normal flu. Really only of concern to the elderly, very young or people with existing respiratory problems. People being quarantined, and movement being curtailed is to protect the above. Most of us will be fine. Worldwide still less dead than a weeks worth of road deaths in the UK. Do you fear to get in your car? The odds are higher of you dying there... | |||
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"I’m really concerned. In the meantime I’ll just have another bud thanks. Maybe your last I had another whilst you were typing. Finish the case " It was miss scarlet in the library with the lead pipe. | |||
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"It’s very likely we will all get it, but that doesn’t mean your going to die from it, it’ll only kill the older and weaker people, those with pre existing medical conditions like me.. And me.. " And me. But fuck it, am I scared though? Not even a little, death is coming for us all at some point. Fuck, if I worried about every virus or disease that could finish me off I'd never get anything done. | |||
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"Its already here.. do you read the news ? And it's been contained, because people are acting sensibly and not panicking
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Imagine yourself in one of those towns"As bad as it may get I just can't bring myself to imagine being in Colchester.. Went there to drop off a prisoner at the military nick and its not an experience I wish to have again.. | |||
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"As I said before it's scare mongering there has been very little talk of it. And I've been to Italy in the last few days and currently not that far away from it now x Not even heard about it here x " again its scare mongering | |||
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"It's getting serious now.. " You’ve been saying that for days! | |||
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"As I said before it's scare mongering there has been very little talk of it. And I've been to Italy in the last few days and currently not that far away from it now x Not even heard about it here x again its scare mongering " Yes...by the OP. | |||
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"As I said before it's scare mongering there has been very little talk of it. And I've been to Italy in the last few days and currently not that far away from it now x Not even heard about it here x again its scare mongering Yes...by the OP. " Look into the deaths. All either elderly or very young and 97% in countries with poor health care systems. It's a flu. I'm more worried about countries with poor health care like in Africa, south America etc. But an outbreak that wipes us all out? Just like foot and mouth, or sars, or mars, or bird flu did? Stop taking in this media frenzy, it's what they want. Live in fear, behave, stay inside. Comply. Each to their own but I'll take my chances, you only live once. | |||
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"As I said before it's scare mongering there has been very little talk of it. And I've been to Italy in the last few days and currently not that far away from it now x Not even heard about it here x again its scare mongering " I know this... I was trying to point out to the op it's not that major | |||
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" Each to their own but I'll take my chances, you only live once. " On balance I'd rather be struck down quick by something like this, than to slowly die of cancer or something related to dementia. Which are much more likely to get me in the end! | |||
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" Each to their own but I'll take my chances, you only live once. On balance I'd rather be struck down quick by something like this, than to slowly die of cancer or something related to dementia. Which are much more likely to get me in the end! " I've decided the day they say I get something terminal I'm just gonna go sky diving and not open my chute. I don't want the last thing I see when I die to be a crack in a hospital ceiling. I want the world coming at me at 150mph. | |||
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Personally I feel this could cause a lot of death and a lot of misery. I'd love to believe we could get this under control but the R0 and extend of the spread as it is, I don't foresee containment. All I see is a very real test of our medical services in the months to come. | |||
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"As I said before it's scare mongering there has been very little talk of it. And I've been to Italy in the last few days and currently not that far away from it now x Not even heard about it here x again its scare mongering Yes...by the OP. " Do they quarantine whole ships cities and towns for so called normal flu ? | |||
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"It's getting serious now.. You’ve been saying that for days!" Yes.. it's getting serious now | |||
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"It's getting serious now.. You’ve been saying that for days! Yes.. it's getting serious now" I'm sat in my full hazmat suit, budgie is in a hamster wheel, I've put a gas mask on the cat. I've dominated the house 17 times today and making taped up the gaps in doors and windows. I'm taking this very very seriously  | |||
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"As I said before it's scare mongering there has been very little talk of it. And I've been to Italy in the last few days and currently not that far away from it now x Not even heard about it here x again its scare mongering Yes...by the OP. Do they quarantine whole ships cities and towns for so called normal flu ?" Yes it's a regular thing,how many times over the past few years have cruise ships been quarantined because of a norovirus outbreak? Quite a few. | |||
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"OP what this thread tells you is everything you need to know about humanity. Most people don't mind if millions die, just so long it doesn't affect them. When it does they goe from tough talking & ambivalent to head in hands wailing why me? Op very clearly you worry about the well being of people other than yourself. It makes you a wonderful human being and nothing to be ashamed of
Personally I feel this could cause a lot of death and a lot of misery. I'd love to believe we could get this under control but the R0 and extend of the spread as it is, I don't foresee containment. All I see is a very real test of our medical services in the months to come.
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"OP what this thread tells you is everything you need to know about humanity. Most people don't mind if millions die, just so long it doesn't affect them. When it does they goe from tough talking & ambivalent to head in hands wailing why me? Op very clearly you worry about the well being of people other than yourself. It makes you a wonderful human being and nothing to be ashamed of
Personally I feel this could cause a lot of death and a lot of misery. I'd love to believe we could get this under control but the R0 and extend of the spread as it is, I don't foresee containment. All I see is a very real test of our medical services in the months to come.
I'm not convinced by that interpretation.
I think this thread shows that the OP is mostly worried about himself. He has not expressed any concern for others, apart from it might be us next.
Most people have shown a sensible approach to risk, which is what's needed. "https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/23/world-is-approaching-coronavirus-tipping-point-experts-say I don't see OP as being hysterical. I think he's just encouraging people to see it for what it is. The authorities are certainly taking it seriously. Nobody's calling them drama llamas. | |||
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"I worry for Italy..." It's now in 33 countries. Impossible to contain at this point. I wonder how much more widespread it needs to be for WHO to start calling this a pandemic? | |||
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"They deep clean an ambulance after carrying a suspect.. Nothing to worry about then " Deep cleaning equipment, PPE etc is commonplace across the emergency services as required.. It happens quite often depending on the contaminant and is simply good practise.. | |||
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"They deep clean an ambulance after carrying a suspect.. Nothing to worry about then " They deep clean an ambulance after carrying anyone with an infectious disease..... | |||
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"OP what this thread tells you is everything you need to know about humanity. Most people don't mind if millions die, just so long it doesn't affect them. When it does they goe from tough talking & ambivalent to head in hands wailing why me? Op very clearly you worry about the well being of people other than yourself. It makes you a wonderful human being and nothing to be ashamed of
Personally I feel this could cause a lot of death and a lot of misery. I'd love to believe we could get this under control but the R0 and extend of the spread as it is, I don't foresee containment. All I see is a very real test of our medical services in the months to come.
I'm not convinced by that interpretation.
I think this thread shows that the OP is mostly worried about himself. He has not expressed any concern for others, apart from it might be us next.
Most people have shown a sensible approach to risk, which is what's needed.
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I don't see OP as being hysterical. I think he's just encouraging people to see it for what it is. The authorities are certainly taking it seriously. Nobody's calling them drama llamas. "Because they don't go round crying 'its worrying' over every bloody thing....vegans, companies that don't let you claim for means including meat, norovirus on lettuce. Now he's acting as if it's a new thing for ambulances to get cleaned. Bug he's not scaremongering at all, of course not. I feel hes taking the piss with it all now, enjoying his own 'celebrity' on here. The fact is, thanks to robust quarantine protocols, we have had a very minor numbers of confirmed cases here in the UK. Other countries have not acted so promptly and so have had worse outbreaks of it. | |||
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"They deep clean an ambulance after carrying a suspect.. Nothing to worry about then They deep clean an ambulance after carrying anyone with an infectious disease....." Worrying.. very very worryi | |||
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"I contracted whooping cough a few years ago. I travel on the tube every day. Whooping cough was practically eradicated but is now on the rise. I still go out every day, I still travel on public transport. Jeez you would never leave the house if you worried about disease etc. " Do you think you might have infected others ? | |||
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"I contracted whooping cough a few years ago. I travel on the tube every day. Whooping cough was practically eradicated but is now on the rise. I still go out every day, I still travel on public transport. Jeez you would never leave the house if you worried about disease etc. " Because that's the point.. infected people not caring about others and I share that view.. I will break free of any cordon.. | |||
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"They deep clean an ambulance after carrying a suspect.. Nothing to worry about then They deep clean an ambulance after carrying anyone with an infectious disease..... Worrying.. very very worryi" Indeed | |||
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"Ffs Tom, there’s 13 cases in the uk!
S’matter with you man, relax ya bones! "13 now.. wait 14 days | |||
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"Ffs Tom, there’s 13 cases in the uk!
S’matter with you man, relax ya bones!
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"I contracted whooping cough a few years ago. I travel on the tube every day. Whooping cough was practically eradicated but is now on the rise. I still go out every day, I still travel on public transport. Jeez you would never leave the house if you worried about disease etc. Because that's the point.. infected people not caring about others and I share that view.. I will break free of any cordon.. " Which rather undermines Maycontainfullnuts' defence of you. | |||
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"I contracted whooping cough a few years ago. I travel on the tube every day. Whooping cough was practically eradicated but is now on the rise. I still go out every day, I still travel on public transport. Jeez you would never leave the house if you worried about disease etc. Because that's the point.. infected people not caring about others and I share that view.. I will break free of any cordon.. " To be honest OP, two points. 1 You have said about others not caring about others is how it spreads, yet you say you would break out of a cordon. Isn't that the ultimate show of not caring? 2 Seeing how worried you are about everything, I doubt you could break wind... | |||
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"There were many schools and hospital wards closed due to norovirus just before Christmas, we all survived and that it highly contagious." Thousands die from common cold each year... Tom - be advised to just stay in doors for the rest of your days mate. | |||
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"I smell a huge dead rat...some will know but others are oblivious... " Did it have covid-19? | |||
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"I contracted whooping cough a few years ago. I travel on the tube every day. Whooping cough was practically eradicated but is now on the rise. I still go out every day, I still travel on public transport. Jeez you would never leave the house if you worried about disease etc. Because that's the point.. infected people not caring about others and I share that view.. I will break free of any cordon.. To be honest OP, two points. 1 You have said about others not caring about others is how it spreads, yet you say you would break out of a cordon. Isn't that the ultimate show of not caring? 2 Seeing how worried you are about everything, I doubt you could break wind..." You are right.. I will run to the hills | |||
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"I contracted whooping cough a few years ago. I travel on the tube every day. Whooping cough was practically eradicated but is now on the rise. I still go out every day, I still travel on public transport. Jeez you would never leave the house if you worried about disease etc. Because that's the point.. infected people not caring about others and I share that view.. I will break free of any cordon.. " So you don’t care about others if willing to break a quarantine cordon, set up to contain what you are so worried about, you just care about yourself  | |||
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"I contracted whooping cough a few years ago. I travel on the tube every day. Whooping cough was practically eradicated but is now on the rise. I still go out every day, I still travel on public transport. Jeez you would never leave the house if you worried about disease etc. Because that's the point.. infected people not caring about others and I share that view.. I will break free of any cordon.. So you don’t care about others if willing to break a quarantine cordon, set up to contain what you are so worried about, you just care about yourself " | |||
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"As I said before it's scare mongering It feckin scares the shit out of me " You're far more likely to catch and die of normal flu or complications from it than you are Coronavirus, and you can get that anywhere. Stop wasting your energy worrying dude, you could get hit by a bus tomorrow | |||
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"It may happen.. I hope not.. NHS are saying that they will home test rather than transport people in ambulances because ambulances will need a 'deep clean' after transporting a Corona virus suspect.. What does that tell you ? It tells me that if a person suspected of carrying Corona is travelling in an ambulance then it's no longer safe.. Wake up peoples" Funny, it tells me that carrying someone out of there home to a hospital full of already ill patients might expose those patients to unnecessary risk, after all the vast majority of victims have been the elderly sick or weak. It also tells me that it could expose the ambulance staff and medical staff to unnecessary risk, and then they would have to be quarantined too. Within a few days there would be no one capable of manning an ambulance or hospital. Self isolation is a far more effective route. | |||
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"a) it will get here eventually.....i have no doubt it will b) the way that some of you are mocking whats happening in italy isn't good... i just hope they wouldn't mock us the way some are here..... best part of 200 cases have sprung up in the last couple of days with 3 deaths in italy and they admit they still have no idea who "patient zero" is ... so they can't really backtrack... its about a dozen italian towns in and around lombardy which basically means milan could be about to be going on shutdown" The voice of reason.. | |||
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"It may happen.. I hope not.. NHS are saying that they will home test rather than transport people in ambulances because ambulances will need a 'deep clean' after transporting a Corona virus suspect.. What does that tell you ? It tells me that if a person suspected of carrying Corona is travelling in an ambulance then it's no longer safe.. Wake up peoples Funny, it tells me that carrying someone out of there home to a hospital full of already ill patients might expose those patients to unnecessary risk, after all the vast majority of victims have been the elderly sick or weak. It also tells me that it could expose the ambulance staff and medical staff to unnecessary risk, and then they would have to be quarantined too. Within a few days there would be no one capable of manning an ambulance or hospital. Self isolation is a far more effective route." So it's definitely worrying then | |||
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"Worrying doesnt change the outcome." No but if you take precautions it helps.. | |||
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"Worrying doesnt change the outcome." There is government advice and self preparation... I prefer the latter... | |||
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"a) it will get here eventually.....i have no doubt it will b) the way that some of you are mocking whats happening in italy isn't good... i just hope they wouldn't mock us the way some are here..... best part of 200 cases have sprung up in the last couple of days with 3 deaths in italy and they admit they still have no idea who "patient zero" is ... so they can't really backtrack... its about a dozen italian towns in and around lombardy which basically means milan could be about to be going on shutdown" I haven't witnessed anyone mocking what's happening in Italy. How many people died in Italy from other things in the past few days? Such as old age, cancer, car accidents etc, I can guarantee it was more than 3. | |||
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"Worrying doesnt change the outcome." Exactly Fantastic suds | |||
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"Worrying doesnt change the outcome. No but if you take precautions it helps.. " What are your precautions? Coming onto a swinging site and telling people to wake up? What has that achieved? | |||
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"Hysteria helps nobody " How right you are. | |||
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"Let's just wait and see.. Hysteria helps nobody " So stop freaking out | |||
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"Let's just wait and see.. Hysteria helps nobody So stop freaking out" | |||
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"Let's just wait and see.. Hysteria helps nobody " Oh, the irony! | |||
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"Check out sky news Wake up people.. They can enforce a quarantine on a town " What exactly do you want us to wake up to! What exactly do you want us all to do? | |||
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"OK, two things: 1) Covid-19 is infecting large numbers of people rapidly because it is a new virus to which no-one had any immunity. 2) The rate of death from Covid-19 is around 2-3%, which is comparable with some strains of influenza and a bunch of other respiratory viruses. The overwhelming majority of the deaths are in the "typical" groups of elderly and those with pre existing co-morbidities. The media hype is unnecessary and harmful in my professional opinion. " Couldn’t agree more. The biggest risk this poses is an economic one; should it continue to spread we may see an impact on businesses, though either staffing or supply chain problems. | |||
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"If you have to deep clean an ambulance then it's bloody worrying.. " Get over yourself for Christ sake! Wether you're taking the piss or not now it's just bloody ridiculous. | |||
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"Its already here.. do you read the news ? And it's been contained, because people are acting sensibly and not panicking
Yes. Containment meaning whole towns cut off ..
Wake up peoples..
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"This is getting worrying.. Towns and university closed were are you " We’re in the cellar with some tins of tuna. We will continually hit refresh to see when it’s safe to go back above land | |||
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"This is getting worrying.. Towns and university closed " The World Health Organization are on the brink of announcing a pandemic. | |||
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"This is getting worrying.. Towns and university closed " You are a doom and gloom merchant and almost comical in your daily "the sky is falling" type threads. However, you're not exaggerating the way in which the Italians are dealing with this. My sister lives in Milan. She said all the schools and public buildings are closed. The supermarkets are empty and people told to stay home. I live and work in the two areas of London with known cases of the virus, yet business as usual. Which approach is best? | |||
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"I'm not going to get into criticising people's fears (which may be well-founded, bit early to say yet), but I would like to correct a couple of technical errors: firstly, the coronavirus covid-19 is not an influenza, or 'flu. Flu is caused by the influenza virus, from the 'orthomyxoviridae' virus family. Coronaviruses (and there are hundreds - SARS and MERS-CoV are coronaviruses) are from the coronaviridae family. Secondly, people have been talking about 'R0' - this is known as the 'reproduction number' and basically means how many people can be infected from coming into contact with an index case: if the number R0=2, then 1 person would infect 2 people: those 2 people could then infect another 2 people, so one would see the progression 1-2-4-8-16-32 and so on. Currently, the R0 for Covid-19 (also now being called SARS-Cov-2, by the way) is currently estimated at about 3.3 - though, to be fair, it has been varying which is often seen in the early stages of an outbreak. Now, let's put this in perspectve: the R0 for Ebola is about 2.0 and for measles it is estimated at being 15-18... Finally, with respect to quarantine: viruses are parasites and need a host and other people/things to infect in order to propagate - no host, no virus: so, containing the virus so that it cannot infect new hosts is really quite effective (if done securely) and the virus will simply 'burn out' in the quarantined population." You are quite right. I didn't state that Covid-19 is an influenza virus (which it clearly isn't, being as you say, from a totally different viral family). I stated that the death rate of around 2% is comparable to some strains of flu. | |||
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"OP what this thread tells you is everything you need to know about humanity. Most people don't mind if millions die, just so long it doesn't affect them. When it does they goe from tough talking & ambivalent to head in hands wailing why me? Op very clearly you worry about the well being of people other than yourself. It makes you a wonderful human being and nothing to be ashamed of
Personally I feel this could cause a lot of death and a lot of misery. I'd love to believe we could get this under control but the R0 and extend of the spread as it is, I don't foresee containment. All I see is a very real test of our medical services in the months to come.
I'm not convinced by that interpretation.
I think this thread shows that the OP is mostly worried about himself. He has not expressed any concern for others, apart from it might be us next.
Most people have shown a sensible approach to risk, which is what's needed.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/23/world-is-approaching-coronavirus-tipping-point-experts-say
I don't see OP as being hysterical. I think he's just encouraging people to see it for what it is. The authorities are certainly taking it seriously. Nobody's calling them drama llamas.
Because they don't go round crying 'its worrying' over every bloody thing....vegans, companies that don't let you claim for means including meat, norovirus on lettuce. Now he's acting as if it's a new thing for ambulances to get cleaned. Bug he's not scaremongering at all, of course not.
I feel hes taking the piss with it all now, enjoying his own 'celebrity' on here.
The fact is, thanks to robust quarantine protocols, we have had a very minor numbers of confirmed cases here in the UK. Other countries have not acted so promptly and so have had worse outbreaks of it. "Phew! It's all over. And the UK got through unscathed because.... why? Let's face it we're just better than everyone else... Or... This is just the beginning. Can you see the future? How many will die. It's a bit early to be smug. | |||
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"I'm not going to get into criticising people's fears (which may be well-founded, bit early to say yet), but I would like to correct a couple of technical errors: firstly, the coronavirus covid-19 is not an influenza, or 'flu. Flu is caused by the influenza virus, from the 'orthomyxoviridae' virus family. Coronaviruses (and there are hundreds - SARS and MERS-CoV are coronaviruses) are from the coronaviridae family. Secondly, people have been talking about 'R0' - this is known as the 'reproduction number' and basically means how many people can be infected from coming into contact with an index case: if the number R0=2, then 1 person would infect 2 people: those 2 people could then infect another 2 people, so one would see the progression 1-2-4-8-16-32 and so on. Currently, the R0 for Covid-19 (also now being called SARS-Cov-2, by the way) is currently estimated at about 3.3 - though, to be fair, it has been varying which is often seen in the early stages of an outbreak. Now, let's put this in perspectve: the R0 for Ebola is about 2.0 and for measles it is estimated at being 15-18... Finally, with respect to quarantine: viruses are parasites and need a host and other people/things to infect in order to propagate - no host, no virus: so, containing the virus so that it cannot infect new hosts is really quite effective (if done securely) and the virus will simply 'burn out' in the quarantined population. You are quite right. I didn't state that Covid-19 is an influenza virus (which it clearly isn't, being as you say, from a totally different viral family). I stated that the death rate of around 2% is comparable to some strains of flu. " The "death rate" is 2% because of lag. New cases are coming faster than people are dying. If you want to look at people who recover vs people who die it's about 10% at the moment. | |||
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"I'm not going to get into criticising people's fears (which may be well-founded, bit early to say yet), but I would like to correct a couple of technical errors: firstly, the coronavirus covid-19 is not an influenza, or 'flu. Flu is caused by the influenza virus, from the 'orthomyxoviridae' virus family. Coronaviruses (and there are hundreds - SARS and MERS-CoV are coronaviruses) are from the coronaviridae family. Secondly, people have been talking about 'R0' - this is known as the 'reproduction number' and basically means how many people can be infected from coming into contact with an index case: if the number R0=2, then 1 person would infect 2 people: those 2 people could then infect another 2 people, so one would see the progression 1-2-4-8-16-32 and so on. Currently, the R0 for Covid-19 (also now being called SARS-Cov-2, by the way) is currently estimated at about 3.3 - though, to be fair, it has been varying which is often seen in the early stages of an outbreak. Now, let's put this in perspectve: the R0 for Ebola is about 2.0 and for measles it is estimated at being 15-18... Finally, with respect to quarantine: viruses are parasites and need a host and other people/things to infect in order to propagate - no host, no virus: so, containing the virus so that it cannot infect new hosts is really quite effective (if done securely) and the virus will simply 'burn out' in the quarantined population." Except that... Because of R0 you cannot get to people who need to be quarantined before they have had the chance to spread the virus. Also some people are asymptomatic meaning they could spread the virus without even knowing they are doing so. | |||
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"I'm not going to get into criticising people's fears (which may be well-founded, bit early to say yet), but I would like to correct a couple of technical errors: firstly, the coronavirus covid-19 is not an influenza, or 'flu. Flu is caused by the influenza virus, from the 'orthomyxoviridae' virus family. Coronaviruses (and there are hundreds - SARS and MERS-CoV are coronaviruses) are from the coronaviridae family. Secondly, people have been talking about 'R0' - this is known as the 'reproduction number' and basically means how many people can be infected from coming into contact with an index case: if the number R0=2, then 1 person would infect 2 people: those 2 people could then infect another 2 people, so one would see the progression 1-2-4-8-16-32 and so on. Currently, the R0 for Covid-19 (also now being called SARS-Cov-2, by the way) is currently estimated at about 3.3 - though, to be fair, it has been varying which is often seen in the early stages of an outbreak. Now, let's put this in perspectve: the R0 for Ebola is about 2.0 and for measles it is estimated at being 15-18... Finally, with respect to quarantine: viruses are parasites and need a host and other people/things to infect in order to propagate - no host, no virus: so, containing the virus so that it cannot infect new hosts is really quite effective (if done securely) and the virus will simply 'burn out' in the quarantined population. You are quite right. I didn't state that Covid-19 is an influenza virus (which it clearly isn't, being as you say, from a totally different viral family). I stated that the death rate of around 2% is comparable to some strains of flu. The "death rate" is 2% because of lag. New cases are coming faster than people are dying. If you want to look at people who recover vs people who die it's about 10% at the moment. " In the UK we’ve had 13 confirmed cases, 4 tested positive following repatriation from Asia, 8 of those have now left hospital fit and well; 1 other remains in hospital. There are 100s of repatriated people currently in quarantine, some already released. If you are really worried, read the information available for all and get everything into perspective, rather than the scaremongering that’s is going on | |||
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"I'm not finding any concrete data of a death rate of 10%. Maybe in a country with a handful of cases and one or two deaths, but that's why you don't calculate based on a tiny number of cases. In China, where there are over 79k cases, the death rate overall is around 2%. Yes, it is much higher if you isolate certain demographic groups such as the over 80s, but I'm talking overall rate. As someone with training in microbiology, I am fairly unconcerned about this outbreak. " A couple of basic facts :- The virus appears to kill around 1% of people infected. This is far less than Sars (10%) Mers (34%) or Ebola (50%). The old and the sick are most at risk. The current fatality rate is less than 0.5% for people under the age of 50. But it rises to 8% for people in their 70s and 15% for people over 80. Meanwhile, nearly 11% of people with diseases of the heart died when infected. As did 7% of people with diabetes and 6% of people with long-term lung problems. The average for healthy people is 0.9%. | |||
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