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Ok I'm Scottish and would love Scotland to get independence when the time comes, the Scots want it, the Welsh want it, why don't the English want it? I also think when they do finally have a vote, should English people also be allowed a vote to see if they actually WANT to be part of the Scotland and Wales? I think it's only fair. |
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"If there is a heave cost to it then you have to work out if its worth it but apart from that I have no real issues either way. "
Everything has a cost to it, I just think Scotland and Wales are yelling this n that about the union. Let England also have a yell  |
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"I know a fair few Scottish people that DONT want it.. So do not assume they all want it.. as if they did.. then they would have it.
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And since I probably know more scots than you do, and live between Newcastle and Glasgow I also know some who don't, but know a load more who do. |
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"If there is a heave cost to it then you have to work out if its worth it but apart from that I have no real issues either way.
Everything has a cost to it, I just think Scotland and Wales are yelling this n that about the union. Let England also have a yell "
The English would be financially better off but would we be socially and would it cause divides? |
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"Ok I'm Scottish and would love Scotland to get independence when the time comes, the Scots want it, the Welsh want it, why don't the English want it? I also think when they do finally have a vote, should English people also be allowed a vote to see if they actually WANT to be part of the Scotland and Wales? I think it's only fair. "
I understand national pride and identity BUT why go back to medeval kingdoms and break up the UK as were stronger together and have a bigger presence in world affairs together..... our enemies will love it if you seperate from us....after all divide and conquer..... |
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"Ok I'm Scottish and would love Scotland to get independence when the time comes, the Scots want it, the Welsh want it, why don't the English want it? I also think when they do finally have a vote, should English people also be allowed a vote to see if they actually WANT to be part of the Scotland and Wales? I think it's only fair.
I understand national pride and identity BUT why go back to medeval kingdoms and break up the UK as were stronger together and have a bigger presence in world affairs together..... our enemies will love it if you seperate from us....after all divide and conquer....."
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"Ok I'm Scottish and would love Scotland to get independence when the time comes, the Scots want it, the Welsh want it, why don't the English want it? I also think when they do finally have a vote, should English people also be allowed a vote to see if they actually WANT to be part of the Scotland and Wales? I think it's only fair.
I understand national pride and identity BUT why go back to medeval kingdoms and break up the UK as were stronger together and have a bigger presence in world affairs together..... our enemies will love it if you seperate from us....after all divide and conquer....."
I think we would all still be friends |
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"Ok I'm Scottish and would love Scotland to get independence when the time comes, the Scots want it, the Welsh want it, why don't the English want it? I also think when they do finally have a vote, should English people also be allowed a vote to see if they actually WANT to be part of the Scotland and Wales? I think it's only fair. "
ime all for it so long as we english get the north sea oil ... seriously i dont see what all the fuss is with this devoloution or whatever there calling it. i dont see what blind bit of differnece will it make to anything in the scheme of things. |
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"Ok I'm Scottish and would love Scotland to get independence when the time comes, the Scots want it, the Welsh want it, why don't the English want it? I also think when they do finally have a vote, should English people also be allowed a vote to see if they actually WANT to be part of the Scotland and Wales? I think it's only fair.
I understand national pride and identity BUT why go back to medeval kingdoms and break up the UK as were stronger together and have a bigger presence in world affairs together..... our enemies will love it if you seperate from us....after all divide and conquer.....
I think we would all still be friends "
No doubt we would....but its regressive...not progressive |
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"Ok I'm Scottish and would love Scotland to get independence when the time comes, the Scots want it, the Welsh want it, why don't the English want it? I also think when they do finally have a vote, should English people also be allowed a vote to see if they actually WANT to be part of the Scotland and Wales? I think it's only fair. "
Because they'll lose a fortune! So where they then going to get the money to hand out too the assylum seekers and for the polish womans child support for her children in Poland, for her to send direct out of the country. It will be fixed because England simply can't afford to be alone. Oh and all the Al Kieda need feeding. This country's a soft spot joke. Just my opinion. I'm allowed.  |
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"But the welsh and the scots don't want it - only a minority do
I beg to differ, in Scotland anyway. "
Even the SNP realise they won't win a referendum so have a plan B and all the polls suggest that the scotish people don't want it |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ok I'm Scottish and would love Scotland to get independence when the time comes, the Scots want it, the Welsh want it, why don't the English want it? I also think when they do finally have a vote, should English people also be allowed a vote to see if they actually WANT to be part of the Scotland and Wales? I think it's only fair.
ime all for it so long as we english get the north sea oil ... seriously i dont see what all the fuss is with this devoloution or whatever there calling it. i dont see what blind bit of differnece will it make to anything in the scheme of things."
See grabbing of minerals already lol lol, im english and I would accept if we split...the gas and oil would be scottish xxx |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ok I'm Scottish and would love Scotland to get independence when the time comes, the Scots want it, the Welsh want it, why don't the English want it? I also think when they do finally have a vote, should English people also be allowed a vote to see if they actually WANT to be part of the Scotland and Wales? I think it's only fair.
I understand national pride and identity BUT why go back to medeval kingdoms and break up the UK as were stronger together and have a bigger presence in world affairs together..... our enemies will love it if you seperate from us....after all divide and conquer....."
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It's not about north sea oil ( that will dry up at some point) its about identity and having a say about your own country. England is far richer than Scotland yet they can offer, free prescriptions, eye tests, education etc. since having their own parliament (sort of) they have made great changes up there. My real point here is I also think if scots & welsh can have a say then surely the English should also be allowed a vote. |
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"Ok I'm Scottish and would love Scotland to get independence when the time comes, the Scots want it, the Welsh want it, why don't the English want it? I also think when they do finally have a vote, should English people also be allowed a vote to see if they actually WANT to be part of the Scotland and Wales? I think it's only fair.
ime all for it so long as we english get the north sea oil ... seriously i dont see what all the fuss is with this devoloution or whatever there calling it. i dont see what blind bit of differnece will it make to anything in the scheme of things.
See grabbing of minerals already lol lol, im english and I would accept if we split...the gas and oil would be scottish xxx"
but cant we just let them keep there irn bru...theere welcome to that i hate the stuff  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ok I'm Scottish and would love Scotland to get independence when the time comes, the Scots want it, the Welsh want it, why don't the English want it? I also think when they do finally have a vote, should English people also be allowed a vote to see if they actually WANT to be part of the Scotland and Wales? I think it's only fair. Because they'll lose a fortune! So where they then going to get the money to hand out too the assylum seekers and for the polish womans child support for her children in Poland, for her to send direct out of the country. It will be fixed because England simply can't afford to be alone. Oh and all the Al Kieda need feeding. This country's a soft spot joke. Just my opinion. I'm allowed. "
A lot more benefits paid out per person in Scotland. Per head how much worse off would you like to be and still have independence. |
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I think the drive for independence was as a result of Braveheart, where an Australian with an American accent posing as a Scotsman wearing a kilt raised some national pride, it was only a Film Dear lol
If the majority of Scottish people wanted this why did Alex Salmond hold off with his referendum until he has swayed the Scotts opinions and interests, simmple he knows he would lose, personally I couldnt care less where the parliament is, Cardiff, Edinburgh or London, as long as they govern properly and stop leading us into all this financial shit they keep getting us into. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ok I'm Scottish and would love Scotland to get independence when the time comes, the Scots want it, the Welsh want it, why don't the English want it? I also think when they do finally have a vote, should English people also be allowed a vote to see if they actually WANT to be part of the Scotland and Wales? I think it's only fair.
ime all for it so long as we english get the north sea oil ... seriously i dont see what all the fuss is with this devoloution or whatever there calling it. i dont see what blind bit of differnece will it make to anything in the scheme of things."
INDEPENDANCE. And what would you want the oil revenues for now anyway it's near fucked you've had it for years, oh and the Whisky Industry, Hydro Power, Tourism We'll be fine GIVE US OUR COUNTRY BACK!  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Its not true that england could not stand alone, scotland would be weaker as a result of splitting as would england. someones been watching to many old mel gibson films xxx |
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"I think the drive for independence was as a result of Braveheart, where an Australian with an American accent posing as a Scotsman wearing a kilt raised some national pride, it was only a Film Dear lol
If the majority of Scottish people wanted this why did Alex Salmond hold off with his referendum until he has swayed the Scotts opinions and interests, simmple he knows he would lose, personally I couldnt care less where the parliament is, Cardiff, Edinburgh or London, as long as they govern properly and stop leading us into all this financial shit they keep getting us into."
This makes sense to me...bigger issues than this to sort out xxx |
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"I only know two people who are for independence so don't think the majority are for it. I'm proud to be British "
The British Empire's an embarrisment. The reason we're over run with foreigners. We've been pilaged and raped for years get a grip. FREEDOM |
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If Scotland & England are run separately and Scottish people enjoy state-funded luxiries the English don't get, and if Scottish Unis can subside Scottish students in english Unis, but still charge the full whack for English students in Scottish Unis, and if Scottish people can get free prescriptions whilst English people have to pay for theirs - then let Scotland split and fund itself. North Sea resources should remain in the hands of those who currently own though, but maybe pay a licence to Scotland to farm it. |
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"But the welsh and the scots don't want it - only a minority do
I beg to differ, in Scotland anyway.
Even the SNP realise they won't win a referendum so have a plan B and all the polls suggest that the scotish people don't want it"
Just because the minority shouts louder does not mean they are the majority. A fair vote is whats needed.
England would get a short term gain IF they pull all military, industry, and government agencies back over the borders, but then we would not be friendly and in direct competition with both Scotland and Wales which would be bad for all 3 in the long run. |
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"I only know two people who are for independence so don't think the majority are for it. I'm proud to be British The British Empire's an embarrisment. The reason we're over run with foreigners. We've been pilaged and raped for years get a grip. FREEDOM "
You need to change ya name to CLANSMAN or similar lol....  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"If Scotland & England are run separately and Scottish people enjoy state-funded luxiries the English don't get, and if Scottish Unis can subside Scottish students in english Unis, but still charge the full whack for English students in Scottish Unis, and if Scottish people can get free prescriptions whilst English people have to pay for theirs - then let Scotland split and fund itself. North Sea resources should remain in the hands of those who currently own though, but maybe pay a licence to Scotland to farm it."
So if they own it now they can keep it? Lol
Sorry but that's the type of attitude scots want away from, as for free education why should Scotland find English students for free when their own country wants to over charge them? C'mon!
Scotland is trying to make Scotland a fair place to live. We have more pandas in Scotland than Tory mp's for a reason. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"But the welsh and the scots don't want it - only a minority do
I beg to differ, in Scotland anyway.
Even the SNP realise they won't win a referendum so have a plan B and all the polls suggest that the scotish people don't want it
Just because the minority shouts louder does not mean they are the majority. A fair vote is whats needed.
England would get a short term gain IF they pull all military, industry, and government agencies back over the borders, but then we would not be friendly and in direct competition with both Scotland and Wales which would be bad for all 3 in the long run. "
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By (user no longer on site)
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Why would you want to leave in the first place.
It really doesn't make sense to me at all.
It just smacks of the Scots hating the English and thats how Salmond comes across to me.
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"GIVE US OUR COUNTRY BACK!
Ok, here it is. Good luck. "
We've plenty comodities and natural resources we'll be fine thanks very much. Maybe we can plunder yous for four or five hundred years fairs fair like |
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"Ok I'm Scottish and would love Scotland to get independence when the time comes,
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SO purely out of curiosity, would you move back to Scotland to be entitled to a vote on independance? I ask this as most Scots I know live in London and would not go back. |
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"Why would you want to leave in the first place.
It really doesn't make sense to me at all.
It just smacks of the Scots hating the English and thats how Salmond comes across to me.
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Totally disagree! I'm scots and live mainly in England. It's nothing about hating England, it's about having complete say on how to run Scotland. As I said wouldn't your country be happier of things were made fairer. Healthcare education etc, If Scotland can do it so can England. But they don't |
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"Ok I'm Scottish and would love Scotland to get independence when the time comes,
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SO purely out of curiosity, would you move back to Scotland to be entitled to a vote on independance? I ask this as most Scots I know live in London and would not go back."
Yes I would. I have homes in both Scotland and England. |
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"But the welsh and the scots don't want it - only a minority do
I beg to differ, in Scotland anyway.
Even the SNP realise they won't win a referendum so have a plan B and all the polls suggest that the scotish people don't want it
Just because the minority shouts louder does not mean they are the majority. A fair vote is whats needed.
England would get a short term gain IF they pull all military, industry, and government agencies back over the borders, but then we would not be friendly and in direct competition with both Scotland and Wales which would be bad for all 3 in the long run. "
You'll be fine you'll come third. |
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"Ok I'm Scottish and would love Scotland to get independence when the time comes,
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SO purely out of curiosity, would you move back to Scotland to be entitled to a vote on independance? I ask this as most Scots I know live in London and would not go back.
Yes I would. I have homes in both Scotland and England. "
Right to buy properties? |
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"Ok I'm Scottish and would love Scotland to get independence when the time comes,
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SO purely out of curiosity, would you move back to Scotland to be entitled to a vote on independance? I ask this as most Scots I know live in London and would not go back.
Yes I would. I have homes in both Scotland and England.
Right to buy properties?"
Of course. |
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"Such passion from a simple accident of birthplace...... would u be so happy to be independant say like southern ireland...who do so well alone !"
A fucking mess is fine when it's your own. We've been dictated too be the English for centuries thank you very much. You've made the Scottish this way by years of taking the piss out of us.......... As I said we'll be fine bye! |
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"Ok I'm Scottish and would love Scotland to get independence when the time comes,
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SO purely out of curiosity, would you move back to Scotland to be entitled to a vote on independance? I ask this as most Scots I know live in London and would not go back.
Yes I would. I have homes in both Scotland and England.
Right to buy properties?"
IF we split who says you would have any rights to own property in both countries....or even have the right to work in what would become seperate to you.....shall we brits send u all home....british jobs for british people !!!! get a grip and join 21st century...... the old medeval kingdoms are a thing off the past. |
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Siren lived in Edinburgh for a while and when she went out with Scottish friends they often forgot she was english and she'd have to listen to them ranting about "fucking English bastards!"
She'd point out that she was English and then it would be laughed off as "Och noo, you're one of us now lassie."
There is much hatred of the English north of the border. Enough to take Scotland independant, I'm not sure, but it's there.
Also, I think it is a matter for the Scots to vote on, and England should not vote on Scottish independence, and neither should Wales. |
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"Ok I'm Scottish and would love Scotland to get independence when the time comes,
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SO purely out of curiosity, would you move back to Scotland to be entitled to a vote on independance? I ask this as most Scots I know live in London and would not go back.
Yes I would. I have homes in both Scotland and England.
Right to buy properties?
IF we split who says you would have any rights to own property in both countries....or even have the right to work in what would become seperate to you.....shall we brits send u all home....british jobs for british people !!!! get a grip and join 21st century...... the old medeval kingdoms are a thing off the past."
Now you're just being silly dear! So no right to buy propert in any country but your own? Haha that is clever indeed
Shall you Brits send us back? Lol get a grip! Really |
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"Ok I'm Scottish and would love Scotland to get independence when the time comes,
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SO purely out of curiosity, would you move back to Scotland to be entitled to a vote on independance? I ask this as most Scots I know live in London and would not go back.
Yes I would. I have homes in both Scotland and England.
Right to buy properties?
IF we split who says you would have any rights to own property in both countries....or even have the right to work in what would become seperate to you.....shall we brits send u all home....british jobs for british people !!!! get a grip and join 21st century...... the old medeval kingdoms are a thing off the past."
They would still be part off Europe so would be able to work in England |
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"You've made the Scottish this way by years of taking the piss out of us.......... As I said we'll be fine bye! "
Us taking the piss out of YOU? How does that work then when you get free prescriptions, eye tests etc etc? Funded by Westminster I might add. |
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"Ok I'm Scottish and would love Scotland to get independence when the time comes,
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SO purely out of curiosity, would you move back to Scotland to be entitled to a vote on independance? I ask this as most Scots I know live in London and would not go back.
Yes I would. I have homes in both Scotland and England.
Right to buy properties?
IF we split who says you would have any rights to own property in both countries....or even have the right to work in what would become seperate to you.....shall we brits send u all home....british jobs for british people !!!! get a grip and join 21st century...... the old medeval kingdoms are a thing off the past.
Now you're just being silly dear! So no right to buy propert in any country but your own? Haha that is clever indeed
Shall you Brits send us back? Lol get a grip! Really"
I WAS TAKING THE PISS TO SHOW HOW SILLY YOUR POSITION IS |
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"Siren lived in Edinburgh for a while and when she went out with Scottish friends they often forgot she was english and she'd have to listen to them ranting about "fucking English bastards!"
She'd point out that she was English and then it would be laughed off as "Och noo, you're one of us now lassie."
There is much hatred of the English north of the border. Enough to take Scotland independant, I'm not sure, but it's there.
Also, I think it is a matter for the Scots to vote on, and England should not vote on Scottish independence, and neither should Wales."
When I'm out with a bunch of straight mates they're sometimes really homophobic when together But they are not, it's just ppl being silly |
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"Shall you Brits send us back? Lol get a grip! Really"
I haven't considered myself British for quite a few years now. I only have a British passport because I can't get one that says English on it. Unlike Scottish passport holders. |
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"Ok I'm Scottish and would love Scotland to get independence when the time comes,
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SO purely out of curiosity, would you move back to Scotland to be entitled to a vote on independance? I ask this as most Scots I know live in London and would not go back.
Yes I would. I have homes in both Scotland and England.
Right to buy properties?
IF we split who says you would have any rights to own property in both countries....or even have the right to work in what would become seperate to you.....shall we brits send u all home....british jobs for british people !!!! get a grip and join 21st century...... the old medeval kingdoms are a thing off the past.
They would still be part off Europe so would be able to work in England"
Who says they would automatically become part of europe ?? they would need to apply for membership...and that a nightmare....financial obligations and allsorts |
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"You've made the Scottish this way by years of taking the piss out of us.......... As I said we'll be fine bye!
Us taking the piss out of YOU? How does that work then when you get free prescriptions, eye tests etc etc? Funded by Westminster I might add."
Then change it if you had bothered to read my thread is is about giving the English people the same right to vote as the scots. I didn't go down the scots/English hate divide here. Others did |
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hi all - my lovely sexy "f" asked me to add to this thread; as my family is multiculti meaning British and European.
British with big roots in Scotland (Clan without land) and European as German, Italian, Swiss and French relatives/family...
The SNP are painting a simple picture for independence and not thinking, that for example the EU (yes hated) will not accept another country into the EU. That all the benefits Scotland are getting at the moment via the British membership will fall away - bang a big hole of approx. £3billion (where to cover this hole?.
Also I think, that then the Bank of England would lose support of the English public, if Scotland, as it stands, want to in the Pound. The reason for this "in" for Scotland is a direct "money drip" in form of cheap interest rates via the City of London and the Bank of England, paid by the rating of England and Wales.
Let us be honest, it was a Scottish King (James I), who declared and created the Union; not as a certain leader of the SNP is declaring the English - The Union Act brought together two countries, who had over centuries made war upon each other - this union created a sucess story for both sides,eg Robert Adam, William Arrol, Graham Bell and others more unnamed...
This demand again is something driven by one persons private aims to become a point in history... Think about it ! |
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"Ok I'm Scottish and would love Scotland to get independence when the time comes,
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SO purely out of curiosity, would you move back to Scotland to be entitled to a vote on independance? I ask this as most Scots I know live in London and would not go back.
Yes I would. I have homes in both Scotland and England.
Right to buy properties?
IF we split who says you would have any rights to own property in both countries....or even have the right to work in what would become seperate to you.....shall we brits send u all home....british jobs for british people !!!! get a grip and join 21st century...... the old medeval kingdoms are a thing off the past.
They would still be part off Europe so would be able to work in England
Who says they would automatically become part of europe ?? they would need to apply for membership...and that a nightmare....financial obligations and allsorts"
Better just to leave it as it is then |
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"I know a fair few Scottish people that DONT want it.. So do not assume they all want it.. as if they did.. then they would have it.
Cali
And since I probably know more scots than you do, and live between Newcastle and Glasgow I also know some who don't, but know a load more who do. "
I wouldnt bet on that seeing as I am married to one and not one of our friends wants to be separate. Oh and my Fathers family are all Scottish too.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Shall you Brits send us back? Lol get a grip! Really
I haven't considered myself British for quite a few years now. I only have a British passport because I can't get one that says English on it. Unlike Scottish passport holders."
your nationality is BRITISH hence the passport...your native language is ENGLISH XXX |
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If independence does come you know all the rich English will just go and buy up the best properties in Scotland anyway.
With a bit of global warming Edinburgh will be the new Marbella for the English ex pats. |
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I don't think it'll actually be good for any of us, including us in England, but I suspect it'll be a damn-site worse for the Scottish and Welsh, if we break up the Union. But if that's what the "majority" in each wants, then lets get on with it.
Just be careful what you wish for though, because they'll be no turning back, no rescue package from England if it does go wrong - the grass is very rarely greener and it'll be real shame if it happens.  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"If independence does come you know all the rich English will just go and buy up the best properties in Scotland anyway.
With a bit of global warming Edinburgh will be the new Marbella for the English ex pats. "
Think you'll find it already is. |
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"They would still be part off Europe so would be able to work in England"
EEC Membership would have to be decided by Scotland and the EEC after they split, if they don't want to be in the EEC then we would have technically a border with entry requirements, though I hope common sense would prevail it will be decided by politicians..... so don't count on it! |
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"If independence does come you know all the rich English will just go and buy up the best properties in Scotland anyway.
With a bit of global warming Edinburgh will be the new Marbella for the English ex pats. "
AGAIN who says a brit would have the right to buy property in scotland...or vice versa....thier would have to be treaty negotiations between countrys.... its not uncommon...for eg we as in the residents of the UK have no right to buy property or land in thailand |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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I am going to speak as an outsider now... I don't see why England doesn't have regional assemblies so that more decisions are not devolved down.. Give it the same powers as the scotish/welsh/London assemblies and that way you only need parliament for national issues and law making |
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The bottom line here is...alex salmond is sabre rattling in an attempt to gain political favour by playing on ancient differences..... its all about re-election. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"If independence does come you know all the rich English will just go and buy up the best properties in Scotland anyway.
With a bit of global warming Edinburgh will be the new Marbella for the English ex pats.
AGAIN who says a brit would have the right to buy property in scotland...or vice versa....thier would have to be treaty negotiations between countrys.... its not uncommon...for eg we as in the residents of the UK have no right to buy property or land in thailand"
really? Well pick somewhere nicer and buy there. Dubai had restrictions lie that a few years ago, laws like that make no sense and quickly changed. Your the 1st I've heard mention it, clearly not an issue. |
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"I am going to speak as an outsider now... I don't see why England doesn't have regional assemblies so that more decisions are not devolved down.. Give it the same powers as the scotish/welsh/London assemblies and that way you only need parliament for national issues and law making"
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"If independence does come you know all the rich English will just go and buy up the best properties in Scotland anyway.
With a bit of global warming Edinburgh will be the new Marbella for the English ex pats.
AGAIN who says a brit would have the right to buy property in scotland...or vice versa....thier would have to be treaty negotiations between countrys.... its not uncommon...for eg we as in the residents of the UK have no right to buy property or land in thailand really? Well pick somewhere nicer and buy there. Dubai had restrictions lie that a few years ago, laws like that make no sense and quickly changed. Your the 1st I've heard mention it, clearly not an issue. "
My point is your making ASSUMPTIONS about how a split would be effected. neither side are guaranteed maintainance off currents rights and advantages a union brings. |
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"If independence does come you know all the rich English will just go and buy up the best properties in Scotland anyway.
With a bit of global warming Edinburgh will be the new Marbella for the English ex pats.
AGAIN who says a brit would have the right to buy property in scotland...or vice versa....thier would have to be treaty negotiations between countrys.... its not uncommon...for eg we as in the residents of the UK have no right to buy property or land in thailand really? Well pick somewhere nicer and buy there. Dubai had restrictions lie that a few years ago, laws like that make no sense and quickly changed. Your the 1st I've heard mention it, clearly not an issue.
My point is your making ASSUMPTIONS about how a split would be effected. neither side are guaranteed maintainance off currents rights and advantages a union brings."
I think you should just flash me your tits n stop arguing with me, that wasn't point of my thread my thread was everyone entitled to a say, not just scots. |
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" You patronising bas.tard Your fore fathers had my fore fathers Murdered and and thrown off thgeir lands to be replaced by sheep. HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF THE HIGHLAND CLEARANCES
No need for that really is there? Stop living in the feck'n past! Get over it!
and actually if you were that up on yer history and not just into knee jerk reactions you'd know that just as many Scots fought on the side of the English and before that were busy fucking each other over daily! "
I and your into murdering people as they sleep! GIVE OUR COUNTRY BACK! |
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"I am going to speak as an outsider now... I don't see why England doesn't have regional assemblies so that more decisions are not devolved down.. Give it the same powers as the scotish/welsh/London assemblies and that way you only need parliament for national issues and law making"
Sometimes you come across as a bit of a chameleon in your posts. An outsider when it suits and an insider at other times.
There is a London assembly, it's called The Houses of Parliament and it should govern the entire UK but it doesn't. Scotland were permitted to build Holyrood for home rule and the Welsh have their own Assembly too.
What irritates the hell out of me is that Scottish MPs can vote in Westminster on issues that affect England & Wales but Westminster MPs can't vote on purely Scottish matters.
It's a one-way, one-sided street and it needs addressing. |
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"AGAIN who says a brit would have the right to buy property in scotland...or vice versa....thier would have to be treaty negotiations between countrys.... its not uncommon...for eg we as in the residents of the UK have no right to buy property or land in thailand really? Well pick somewhere nicer and buy there. Dubai had restrictions lie that a few years ago, laws like that make no sense and quickly changed. Your the 1st I've heard mention it, clearly not an issue.
My point is your making ASSUMPTIONS about how a split would be effected. neither side are guaranteed maintainance off currents rights and advantages a union brings. I think you should just flash me your tits n stop arguing with me, that wasn't point of my thread my thread was everyone entitled to a say, not just scots. "
oh were back to sex are we.... and there was me thinking were on a neo nazi nationalist web site lol lol xxx |
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"I am going to speak as an outsider now... I don't see why England doesn't have regional assemblies so that more decisions are not devolved down.. Give it the same powers as the scotish/welsh/London assemblies and that way you only need parliament for national issues and law making
Sometimes you come across as a bit of a chameleon in your posts. An outsider when it suits and an insider at other times.
There is a London assembly, it's called The Houses of Parliament and it should govern the entire UK but it doesn't. Scotland were permitted to build Holyrood for home rule and the Welsh have their own Assembly too.
What irritates the hell out of me is that Scottish MPs can vote in Westminster on issues that affect England & Wales but Westminster MPs can't vote on purely Scottish matters.
It's a one-way, one-sided street and it needs addressing."
Then change it. |
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By *ucky_LadsCouple (MM)
over a year ago
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"I am going to speak as an outsider now... I don't see why England doesn't have regional assemblies so that more decisions are not devolved down.. Give it the same powers as the scotish/welsh/London assemblies and that way you only need parliament for national issues and law making
Sometimes you come across as a bit of a chameleon in your posts. An outsider when it suits and an insider at other times.
There is a London assembly, it's called The Houses of Parliament and it should govern the entire UK but it doesn't. Scotland were permitted to build Holyrood for home rule and the Welsh have their own Assembly too.
What irritates the hell out of me is that Scottish MPs can vote in Westminster on issues that affect England & Wales but Westminster MPs can't vote on purely Scottish matters.
It's a one-way, one-sided street and it needs addressing."
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"I think the drive for independence was as a result of Braveheart, where an Australian with an American accent posing as a Scotsman wearing a kilt raised some national pride, it was only a Film Dear lol
If the majority of Scottish people wanted this why did Alex Salmond hold off with his referendum until he has swayed the Scotts opinions and interests, simmple he knows he would lose, personally I couldnt care less where the parliament is, Cardiff, Edinburgh or London, as long as they govern properly and stop leading us into all this financial shit they keep getting us into."
YOU GET MY VOTE ..if your elected any chance you could make law that any wrong doing mp councillor is fired from a cannon without a safety net and lay on free parking and popcorn for all
Regarding Braveheart didnt he get hung drawn and quarted in the end bit like there economy probably would do if they got there independance ...ime not arsed but it would could down on our welfare bill ....how about deciding this home nations indepence thingy by bring back the home international football tournament scots get slaughterd again then again maybe not i do remember us get beat of northern ireland |
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"Ok I'm Scottish and would love Scotland to get independence when the time comes, the Scots want it, the Welsh want it, why don't the English want it? I also think when they do finally have a vote, should English people also be allowed a vote to see if they actually WANT to be part of the Scotland and Wales? I think it's only fair.
ime all for it so long as we english get the north sea oil ... seriously i dont see what all the fuss is with this devoloution or whatever there calling it. i dont see what blind bit of differnece will it make to anything in the scheme of things. INDEPENDANCE. And what would you want the oil revenues for now anyway it's near fucked you've had it for years, oh and the Whisky Industry, Hydro Power, Tourism We'll be fine GIVE US OUR COUNTRY BACK! "
said one lil scotlander to one lil englander if ys cut down on the alchol wouldnt this be a more cost effective way of regaining your own identity |
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"I and your into murdering people as they sleep! "
Oh d'ya you mean like the Campbells did to the MacDonalds who offered them hospitality in their own homes? men women and children - in their sleep - slaughtered?
like... is that what ya mean? 
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"AGAIN who says a brit would have the right to buy property in scotland...or vice versa....thier would have to be treaty negotiations between countrys.... its not uncommon...for eg we as in the residents of the UK have no right to buy property or land in thailand really? Well pick somewhere nicer and buy there. Dubai had restrictions lie that a few years ago, laws like that make no sense and quickly changed. Your the 1st I've heard mention it, clearly not an issue.
My point is your making ASSUMPTIONS about how a split would be effected. neither side are guaranteed maintainance off currents rights and advantages a union brings. I think you should just flash me your tits n stop arguing with me, that wasn't point of my thread my thread was everyone entitled to a say, not just scots.
oh were back to sex are we.... and there was me thinking were on a neo nazi nationalist web site lol lol xxx"
i we could well be i met max mosley at a swingers party a few weeks back |
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"AGAIN who says a brit would have the right to buy property in scotland...or vice versa....thier would have to be treaty negotiations between countrys.... its not uncommon...for eg we as in the residents of the UK have no right to buy property or land in thailand really? Well pick somewhere nicer and buy there. Dubai had restrictions lie that a few years ago, laws like that make no sense and quickly changed. Your the 1st I've heard mention it, clearly not an issue.
My point is your making ASSUMPTIONS about how a split would be effected. neither side are guaranteed maintainance off currents rights and advantages a union brings. I think you should just flash me your tits n stop arguing with me, that wasn't point of my thread my thread was everyone entitled to a say, not just scots.
oh were back to sex are we.... and there was me thinking were on a neo nazi nationalist web site lol lol xxx
i we could well be i met max mosley at a swingers party a few weeks back "
I was there....I saw enoch powell sucking him off xxx |
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"I think the drive for independence was as a result of Braveheart, where an Australian with an American accent posing as a Scotsman wearing a kilt raised some national pride, it was only a Film Dear lol
If the majority of Scottish people wanted this why did Alex Salmond hold off with his referendum until he has swayed the Scotts opinions and interests, simmple he knows he would lose, personally I couldnt care less where the parliament is, Cardiff, Edinburgh or London, as long as they govern properly and stop leading us into all this financial shit they keep getting us into.
This makes sense to me...bigger issues than this to sort out xxx You patronising bas.tard Your fore fathers had my fore fathers Murdered and and thrown off thgeir lands to be replaced by sheep. HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF THE HIGHLAND CLEARANCES "
where are they and how much of tartan and haggis...any reductions on whisky ? |
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I'm born and bred a Scot, live in Scotland and don't know anyone who wants independence.
Oh and on my passport I have British, that's what I am, I live in Britain.
Brits are not exclusively English. |
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"I'm born and bred a Scot, live in Scotland and don't know anyone who wants independence.
Oh and on my passport I have British, that's what I am, I live in Britain.
Brits are not exclusively English. "
I agree with your sentiment... but english is a language...not a nationality xxxxx |
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Maybe im wrong here, so il apologise im advance if i am! The way i see it, scotland is already its own country! We just want to break away from the union! I think the majority of scots are sick of being dictated to from westminster!
If for example, say 75% of scots voted snp or labour, do we end up with a snp or labour pm? No, we end up with a tory pm due to fact that we in scotland have only the same population as london has! Why should scots oaps suffer because the english voted in the tories? Why should the scots disabled suffer because the english voted in the tories?
Home rule! Thats what majority of scots want!  |
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"Maybe im wrong here, so il apologise im advance if i am! The way i see it, scotland is already its own country! We just want to break away from the union! I think the majority of scots are sick of being dictated to from westminster!
If for example, say 75% of scots voted snp or labour, do we end up with a snp or labour pm? No, we end up with a tory pm due to fact that we in scotland have only the same population as london has! Why should scots oaps suffer because the english voted in the tories? Why should the scots disabled suffer because the english voted in the tories?
Home rule! Thats what majority of scots want! "
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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"I'm born and bred a Scot, live in Scotland and don't know anyone who wants independence.
Oh and on my passport I have British, that's what I am, I live in Britain.
Brits are not exclusively English.
I agree with your sentiment... but english is a language...not a nationality xxxxx "
Erm, English is a nationality. I was born in England, therefore I am English. I am also British and European, but I am still English. |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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PS if the Scots want to re-build Hadrians Wall, I'm all for it. Better that than hearing them moaning about a war they lost 400 years ago. Even France doesn't moan that much!
PPS Braveheart was based on a real man, but the film was a crock. Just saying. |
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"PS if the Scots want to re-build Hadrians Wall, I'm all for it. Better that than hearing them moaning about a war they lost 400 years ago. Even France doesn't moan that much!
PPS Braveheart was based on a real man, but the film was a crock. Just saying."
yes forceibly re-patriate the special brew drinking fools north of the wall ! |
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The issue is going to be how are either side financed. Scotland get a whopping huge amount of money from Westminster, this will all stop if independence is achieved. I think that it would be crazy to go it alone. Alex Salmond is hoping to then obtain the rights over the north sea oil, which brings in a substantial revenue, but this cannot be relied upon. I live in Scotland and certainly the impression I get is that independence is not really wanted, but wait and see springs to mind. |
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"PS if the Scots want to re-build Hadrians Wall, I'm all for it. Better that than hearing them moaning about a war they lost 400 years ago. Even France doesn't moan that much!
PPS Braveheart was based on a real man, but the film was a crock. Just saying.
yes forceibly re-patriate the special brew drinking fools north of the wall !"
I do find myself strangely drawn toward you, your views however are appalling |
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"PS if the Scots want to re-build Hadrians Wall, I'm all for it. Better that than hearing them moaning about a war they lost 400 years ago. Even France doesn't moan that much!
PPS Braveheart was based on a real man, but the film was a crock. Just saying.
yes forceibly re-patriate the special brew drinking fools north of the wall !
I do find myself strangely drawn toward you, your views however are appalling "
drawn towards me with a hard on...or drawn towards me with sabres drawn....ones much more welcome than the other..... x |
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over a year ago
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"PS if the Scots want to re-build Hadrians Wall, I'm all for it. Better that than hearing them moaning about a war they lost 400 years ago. Even France doesn't moan that much!
PPS Braveheart was based on a real man, but the film was a crock. Just saying.
yes forceibly re-patriate the special brew drinking fools north of the wall !
I do find myself strangely drawn toward you, your views however are appalling "
It does seem strange that Scots are allowed to moan about the English and crow about supporting any team apart from England at various sporting events, but as soon as the English say 'OK then, fuck off back north of the border', they get all sniffy about it. Make your minds up! |
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"PS if the Scots want to re-build Hadrians Wall, I'm all for it. Better that than hearing them moaning about a war they lost 400 years ago. Even France doesn't moan that much!
PPS Braveheart was based on a real man, but the film was a crock. Just saying.
yes forceibly re-patriate the special brew drinking fools north of the wall !
I do find myself strangely drawn toward you, your views however are appalling
drawn towards me with a hard on...or drawn towards me with sabres drawn....ones much more welcome than the other..... x"
deffo a hard on but I'll call it sabre of you want |
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"PS if the Scots want to re-build Hadrians Wall, I'm all for it. Better that than hearing them moaning about a war they lost 400 years ago. Even France doesn't moan that much!
PPS Braveheart was based on a real man, but the film was a crock. Just saying.
yes forceibly re-patriate the special brew drinking fools north of the wall !
I do find myself strangely drawn toward you, your views however are appalling
drawn towards me with a hard on...or drawn towards me with sabres drawn....ones much more welcome than the other..... x deffo a hard on but I'll call it sabre of you want "
Shame your a neo-nazi fashist then or Id shag ya xxx |
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"If Scotland and in turn Wales vote for independence, how much of the national debt are they willing to take with them? "
None!
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"PS if the Scots want to re-build Hadrians Wall, I'm all for it. Better that than hearing them moaning about a war they lost 400 years ago. Even France doesn't moan that much!
PPS Braveheart was based on a real man, but the film was a crock. Just saying.
yes forceibly re-patriate the special brew drinking fools north of the wall !
I do find myself strangely drawn toward you, your views however are appalling
drawn towards me with a hard on...or drawn towards me with sabres drawn....ones much more welcome than the other..... x deffo a hard on but I'll call it sabre of you want
Shame your a neo-nazi fashist then or Id shag ya xxx "
opinions here are mind but I'm easily swayed
If you don't like them I have others |
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"PS if the Scots want to re-build Hadrians Wall, I'm all for it. Better that than hearing them moaning about a war they lost 400 years ago. Even France doesn't moan that much!
PPS Braveheart was based on a real man, but the film was a crock. Just saying.
yes forceibly re-patriate the special brew drinking fools north of the wall !
I do find myself strangely drawn toward you, your views however are appalling
It does seem strange that Scots are allowed to moan about the English and crow about supporting any team apart from England at various sporting events, but as soon as the English say 'OK then, fuck off back north of the border', they get all sniffy about it. Make your minds up!"
and i hope andy murray never wins wimbledon knocking the england footy team and saying hope they dont win world cup how dare he. only us english allowed to do that |
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"I agree with your sentiment... but english is a language...not a nationality xxxxx "
England is a nation, hence English is a nationality. Britain is nothing more than a union of nations & nationalities. |
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"PS if the Scots want to re-build Hadrians Wall, I'm all for it. Better that than hearing them moaning about a war they lost 400 years ago. Even France doesn't moan that much!
PPS Braveheart was based on a real man, but the film was a crock. Just saying.
yes forceibly re-patriate the special brew drinking fools north of the wall !
I do find myself strangely drawn toward you, your views however are appalling
drawn towards me with a hard on...or drawn towards me with sabres drawn....ones much more welcome than the other..... x deffo a hard on but I'll call it sabre of you want
Shame your a neo-nazi fashist then or Id shag ya xxx "
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Baz its like this....weve told the argies to get stuffed the falklands are ours....and scotlands the same. stop being mardy...we beat u fair n square. your not part argentinian are u ? |
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"If Scotland and in turn Wales vote for independence, how much of the national debt are they willing to take with them? "
do you mean all the billions that the tories have handed over to bail out the likes of greece??
If so, wasnt it the english who voted them in?
It certainly wasnt us scots that voted for them! |
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"Baz its like this....weve told the argies to get stuffed the falklands are ours....and scotlands the same. stop being mardy...we beat u fair n square. your not part argentinian are u ? "
I've had a little Indian in me before but never Argentinian.
Oh ... We don't want Argentina, we just want the holy land returned you could visit maybe?  |
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"I agree with your sentiment... but english is a language...not a nationality xxxxx
England is a nation, hence English is a nationality. Britain is nothing more than a union of nations & nationalities."
Wishy I stand corrected xxx |
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"I agree with your sentiment... but english is a language...not a nationality xxxxx
England is a nation, hence English is a nationality. Britain is nothing more than a union of nations & nationalities.
Wishy I stand corrected xxx"
Hmmm so you do back down? |
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"Baz its like this....weve told the argies to get stuffed the falklands are ours....and scotlands the same. stop being mardy...we beat u fair n square. your not part argentinian are u ?
I've had a little Indian in me before but never Argentinian.
Oh ... We don't want Argentina, we just want the holy land returned you could visit maybe? "
I think we wud need koffee annan to negotiate terms of our anglo-scots sexual encounter.... how do i know id not turn ginger overnight xxx |
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"I agree with your sentiment... but english is a language...not a nationality xxxxx
England is a nation, hence English is a nationality. Britain is nothing more than a union of nations & nationalities.
Wishy I stand corrected xxx"
You can sit down now lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I agree with your sentiment... but english is a language...not a nationality xxxxx
England is a nation, hence English is a nationality. Britain is nothing more than a union of nations & nationalities.
Wishy I stand corrected xxx
You can sit down now lol"
grovelling at the feet of an englishman...fully repentant xxx |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Baz its like this....weve told the argies to get stuffed the falklands are ours....and scotlands the same. stop being mardy...we beat u fair n square. your not part argentinian are u ?
I've had a little Indian in me before but never Argentinian.
Oh ... We don't want Argentina, we just want the holy land returned you could visit maybe?
I think we wud need koffee annan to negotiate terms of our anglo-scots sexual encounter.... how do i know id not turn ginger overnight xxx"
I said visit not steal our treasures |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I agree with your sentiment... but english is a language...not a nationality xxxxx
England is a nation, hence English is a nationality. Britain is nothing more than a union of nations & nationalities.
Wishy I stand corrected xxx
You can sit down now lol
grovelling at the feet of an englishman...fully repentant xxx"
Can you just clean my shoes while your down there .... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I agree with your sentiment... but english is a language...not a nationality xxxxx
England is a nation, hence English is a nationality. Britain is nothing more than a union of nations & nationalities.
Wishy I stand corrected xxx
You can sit down now lol
grovelling at the feet of an englishman...fully repentant xxx
Can you just clean my shoes while your down there .... "
watch it....my dads bigger than your dad ! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Baz its like this....weve told the argies to get stuffed the falklands are ours....and scotlands the same. stop being mardy...we beat u fair n square. your not part argentinian are u ?
I've had a little Indian in me before but never Argentinian.
Oh ... We don't want Argentina, we just want the holy land returned you could visit maybe?
I think we wud need koffee annan to negotiate terms of our anglo-scots sexual encounter.... how do i know id not turn ginger overnight xxx I said visit not steal our treasures "
we already had then an flogged em on ebay |
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By (user no longer on site)
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On a positive note this thread could be a blessing for the construction industry........ I can see the advert now, brickie's required for large wall building contract ... |
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"On a positive note this thread could be a blessing for the construction industry........ I can see the advert now, brickie's required for large wall building contract ... "
the chinese wud win contract....they better at big walls..... last longer to xxx |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I agree with your sentiment... but english is a language...not a nationality xxxxx
England is a nation, hence English is a nationality. Britain is nothing more than a union of nations & nationalities.
Wishy I stand corrected xxx
You can sit down now lol
grovelling at the feet of an englishman...fully repentant xxx
Can you just clean my shoes while your down there ....
watch it....my dads bigger than your dad !"
..and wears a skirt... in winter..with no kecks on! I ain't messing with them hard bastards. |
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"On a positive note this thread could be a blessing for the construction industry........ I can see the advert now, brickie's required for large wall building contract ...
the chinese wud win contract....they better at big walls..... last longer to xxx"
You have a point.......... And it will be cheaper than home labour, contract on way to Beijing ! Lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I agree with your sentiment... but english is a language...not a nationality xxxxx
England is a nation, hence English is a nationality. Britain is nothing more than a union of nations & nationalities.
Wishy I stand corrected xxx
You can sit down now lol
grovelling at the feet of an englishman...fully repentant xxx
Can you just clean my shoes while your down there ....
watch it....my dads bigger than your dad !
..and wears a skirt... in winter..with no kecks on! I ain't messing with them hard bastards. "
been to a few partys without kecks on myself lol xxx its not hard...its wishfull thinking lol xxx |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"On a positive note this thread could be a blessing for the construction industry........ I can see the advert now, brickie's required for large wall building contract ...
lol, hadrians wall was built by the ROMANS to de-lineate their border of the ROMAN empire in brittaniccus! As they were unable to invade scotland!! It wasnt the english or scots that built it!
or the took one look at the place and thought.... no dont want it lol xxx"
Nearly spat me tea out then...... |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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The point I was making wishy is that greater London DOES have it's own assembly in which powers for things such as policing, transport and other local thing are devolved downward thru the mayor...
So if it is good enough for London then why is it not good enough for the rest of the country? |
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"Shall you Brits send us back? Lol get a grip! Really
I haven't considered myself British for quite a few years now. I only have a British passport because I can't get one that says English on it. Unlike Scottish passport holders.
your nationality is BRITISH hence the passport...your native language is ENGLISH XXX"
Legally yes but some scots and welsh i know seem to think of themselves as more 'british' than the english. Or at least have some sort of 'otherness' I agree with them.they're quite welcome to the word. I'm English no matter what my passport says. Incidentally the first two words on my passport are European Union..I'm not one of those either |
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"Ok I'm Scottish and would love Scotland to get independence when the time comes, the Scots want it, the Welsh want it, why don't the English want it? I also think when they do finally have a vote, should English people also be allowed a vote to see if they actually WANT to be part of the Scotland and Wales? I think it's only fair. "
Actually the last poll taken on it after Salmond last piped up about it showed that the majority of the English asked supported Scots Independence.
So are you sure English people don't want it?.....or are hoping for it? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Ok I'm Scottish and would love Scotland to get independence when the time comes, the Scots want it, the Welsh want it, why don't the English want it? I also think when they do finally have a vote, should English people also be allowed a vote to see if they actually WANT to be part of the Scotland and Wales? I think it's only fair.
Actually the last poll taken on it after Salmond last piped up about it showed that the majority of the English asked supported Scots Independence.
So are you sure English people don't want it?.....or are hoping for it?"
You obviously never read it. I said I think the people of England should be given the same option of a choice as the scots. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I would relish independence from Scotland as it gets so tedious this constant moaning that they were a subjugated nation and how badly they have been treat by the English.
Cut them loose, eject them from the Stirling and let them join the euro, put border control in place, not pay any benefits out to people born in Scotland let the Scottish government and watch England prosper under a strong conservative government who would not have to subsidise north of Hadrians wall. I do wonder if Scotland would then implode though as they would have to find someone else to complain about.  |
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