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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Get in!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Get in!!

In Newcastle? A ferret could wear a red rosette and get elected in Newcastle.

Don't know why I bother voting in Gateshead as it's been red since the 70s.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Get in!!

In Newcastle? A ferret could wear a red rosette and get elected in Newcastle.

Don't know why I bother voting in Gateshead as it's been red since the 70s."

I mean country wide!

All the other non elected government have changed is their mind/promises. Scum both of them.

Well done today Labour

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Get in!!

In Newcastle? A ferret could wear a red rosette and get elected in Newcastle.

Don't know why I bother voting in Gateshead as it's been red since the 70s.

I mean country wide!

All the other non elected government have changed is their mind/promises. Scum both of them.

Well done today Labour

They've only won back seats they lost four years ago. The Tories held onto to traditional Tory seats and most of Labour's gains have been from NOC constituencies. The Libs are the ones who should start wearing Pampers and they're going to get wiped out at the next Gen election.

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple over a year ago

hexham

"Get in!!

In Newcastle? A ferret could wear a red rosette and get elected in Newcastle.

Don't know why I bother voting in Gateshead as it's been red since the 70s.

I mean country wide!

All the other non elected government have changed is their mind/promises. Scum both of them.

Well done today Labour

trying to find ut the Carlisle result, you dont know it do you?

(Carlisle is quite a good bell weather consituence for the swing vote...yes im married to a psephologist

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

At least they have won them back, yea Lib dems are ruined and quite rightly so.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

trying to find ut the Carlisle result, you dont know it do you?

(Carlisle is quite a good bell weather consituence for the swing vote...yes im married to a psephologist

Labour gain from No Overall Control.

Labour: 27 (+4)

Con: 20 (-2)

LD: 2 (-2)

Oth: 2

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By *ovedupstillCouple over a year ago

mullinwire

tbh i would have been more worried for labour if they HADNT gained seats, as you could put up a sunburnt ginger for election in the current climate, and they would have gotten voted in.

mid term blues.

a protest vote.

doesnt mean labour are winning hearts, just means people are sick of the cuts, so are showing their distain.

wont be the same come teh general election.

people dont trust red Ed.

anyone that stabs their brother in the back isnt trustworthy.

he should of allowed David to stand forward, being the senior politician, and been there to jump in when/if he failed.

just like the last election when the tories couldnt lose, this wasnt for labour to win, it was theirs to lose

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"people dont trust red Ed.

anyone that stabs their brother in the back isnt trustworthy.

he should of allowed David to stand forward, being the senior politician, and been there to jump in when/if he failed."

and people don't trust him for how he did it - by getting so in hock to the Unions that I really do despair if Labour ever get back into power with Ed the Red in bed at No.10.

That's the day I'll start looking at Australia a bit more closely I think.

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple over a year ago

hexham

trying to find ut the Carlisle result, you dont know it do you?

(Carlisle is quite a good bell weather consituence for the swing vote...yes im married to a psephologist

)

Labour gain from No Overall Control.

Labour: 27 (+4)

Con: 20 (-2)

LD: 2 (-2)

Oth: 2"

will text kev...romantic eh, got a text not to say i love u but whats the Carlisle result

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By *am sampsonMan over a year ago

cwmbran

"tbh i would have been more worried for labour if they HADNT gained seats, as you could put up a sunburnt ginger for election in the current climate, and they would have gotten voted in.

mid term blues.

a protest vote.

doesnt mean labour are winning hearts, just means people are sick of the cuts, so are showing their distain.

wont be the same come teh general election.

people dont trust red Ed.

anyone that stabs their brother in the back isnt trustworthy.

he should of allowed David to stand forward, being the senior politician, and been there to jump in when/if he failed.

just like the last election when the tories couldnt lose, this wasnt for labour to win, it was theirs to lose"

What are people protesting against though according to Dave we are all in it together and the public at large support them - or are they protesting againt Roy hodgeson becoming england Manager

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Personally I don't think the right leader is Ed, it should have been David.

I'm sure the anger in the people will last the next 3yrs as the government only seem interested in their own type of people once elected.

Being Scottish and having been shit upon by Tories for (ever) years i'll be labour til I die. That's unless anyone better comes along but doubt that very much.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Labour, Conservative, Lib Dem, whats the difference. There agendas are the same.

On important things like Afghanistan, immigration, the EU, taxes etc there policies are almost identical. Plus with the EU there are things that we can no longer control.

It's a further insult when those middle to upper class politicians try and relate to the working class and tell us they understand how we feel.

I look at the place i live (Bradford) and it's a prime example of the failures of the previous governments.

I shall never vote for Lab, Con or Lib Dem for as long as i live.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Personally I don't think the right leader is Ed, it should have been David.

I'm sure the anger in the people will last the next 3yrs as the government only seem interested in their own type of people once elected.

Being Scottish and having been shit upon by Tories for (ever) years i'll be labour til I die. That's unless anyone better comes along but doubt that very much. "

With a bit of luck Scotland will vote for independence and Labour's safe seats north of the border will be gone.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Personally I don't think the right leader is Ed, it should have been David.

I'm sure the anger in the people will last the next 3yrs as the government only seem interested in their own type of people once elected.

Being Scottish and having been shit upon by Tories for (ever) years i'll be labour til I die. That's unless anyone better comes along but doubt that very much.

With a bit of luck Scotland will vote for independence and Labour's safe seats north of the border will be gone."
well I would love them to get it. And good on the SNP for trying.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

MY island results are rolling in....no major suprises as very few candidates nail their colours to the mast....mainly all parading as independent candidates...on a positive note though, that does mean no labour council here, so our cash reserve should remain fairly intact.. a very high turnout though which is always encouraging

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I look at the place i live (Bradford) and it's a prime example of the failures of the previous governments.

Labour couldn't even win in Bradford where Galloway's Respect party unseated the Labour council leader. I think that speaks volumes about how the electorate feel about Milliband & Labour.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

My opnion is goverment are corrupt end of

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Get in!!

In Newcastle? A ferret could wear a red rosette and get elected in Newcastle.

Don't know why I bother voting in Gateshead as it's been red since the 70s.

I mean country wide!

All the other non elected government have changed is their mind/promises. Scum both of them.

Well done today Labour

trying to find ut the Carlisle result, you dont know it do you?

(Carlisle is quite a good bell weather consituence for the swing vote...yes im married to a psephologist

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LABOUR WON IN CARLISLE

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Wow labour took the west mids by storm

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Wow labour took the west mids by storm"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The funny thing about elections is that in no other sphere of working life does one person actively seek to dump another person out of a job and take his place. It's almost like job theft.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Wow labour took the west mids by storm"

joy

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Get in!!

Why.. why actually would we want them back in... I think they got back in here.. which is a disaster as far as I am concerned.

I certainly did not vote them in.

Cali

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"The funny thing about elections is that in no other sphere of working life does one person actively seek to dump another person out of a job and take his place. It's almost like job theft."

It's really more like a spring clean, things you purchased last year that you thought would he handy, then to find out they're really quite useless. Throw them out and make space for more useful objects.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The funny thing about elections is that in no other sphere of working life does one person actively seek to dump another person out of a job and take his place. It's almost like job theft.

But someone loses their livelihood at the expense of another. Surely there should be an employment law that prevents that?

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By *am sampsonMan over a year ago

cwmbran

"The funny thing about elections is that in no other sphere of working life does one person actively seek to dump another person out of a job and take his place. It's almost like job theft.

But someone loses their livelihood at the expense of another. Surely there should be an employment law that prevents that?"

Councillors in the main don't get paid a salery - they get an allowance and expenses

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Labour....No ime not gonna bite ... lying fiddling cheating smarmy slimy pension robbing incompetent media arse licking murdering ....(if theres owt ime missing here please feel free to continue) bunch of foooking arse klunt wankers .....wankers wankers .....time for my tourettes medication ...arses bastard knobs

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Get in!!

Why.. why actually would we want them back in... I think they got back in here.. which is a disaster as far as I am concerned.

I certainly did not vote them in.

Cali "

True. Personally I don't want to live under the leftist PC flag again.

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By *emmefataleWoman over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

Great!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The funny thing about elections is that in no other sphere of working life does one person actively seek to dump another person out of a job and take his place. It's almost like job theft.

But someone loses their livelihood at the expense of another. Surely there should be an employment law that prevents that?

Councillors in the main don't get paid a salery - they get an allowance and expenses"
if they dont get paid ....whats an allowance then ? regarding exspenses the amounts they fiddled well they dont need a salary /allowance ide pay em same as people on benefits then again there not even worth that.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Councillors in the main don't get paid a salery - they get an allowance and expenses"

Not when they're dumped out of office they don't, and I think everyone is well aware that Allowances & Expenses are wages & salaries by another name.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The funny thing about elections is that in no other sphere of working life does one person actively seek to dump another person out of a job and take his place. It's almost like job theft.

But someone loses their livelihood at the expense of another. Surely there should be an employment law that prevents that?

Councillors in the main don't get paid a salery - they get an allowance and expenses"

can you justify why some heads of councils are on 100 to 200k salaries er sorry allowances please cos ile be buggered if i can find any justification for that

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Labour, Conservative, Lib Dem, whats the difference. There agendas are the same.

On important things like Afghanistan, immigration, the EU, taxes etc there policies are almost identical. Plus with the EU there are things that we can no longer control.

It's a further insult when those middle to upper class politicians try and relate to the working class and tell us they understand how we feel.

I look at the place i live (Bradford) and it's a prime example of the failures of the previous governments.

I shall never vote for Lab, Con or Lib Dem for as long as i live.

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By *am sampsonMan over a year ago

cwmbran

"The funny thing about elections is that in no other sphere of working life does one person actively seek to dump another person out of a job and take his place. It's almost like job theft.

But someone loses their livelihood at the expense of another. Surely there should be an employment law that prevents that?

Councillors in the main don't get paid a salery - they get an allowance and expenses if they dont get paid ....whats an allowance then ? regarding exspenses the amounts they fiddled well they dont need a salary /allowance ide pay em same as people on benefits then again there not even worth that. "

Think you are getting councillors mixed up with MPs regarding expenses - Councillors get paid for attending meetings - but much of the work they do like visiting constituents they won't get anything for

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The funny thing about elections is that in no other sphere of working life does one person actively seek to dump another person out of a job and take his place. It's almost like job theft.

But someone loses their livelihood at the expense of another. Surely there should be an employment law that prevents that?"

In tonys blairs case wouldnt that be the hauge where he would get offered rent free accomodation along with that x serbian leader

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By *am sampsonMan over a year ago

cwmbran

"The funny thing about elections is that in no other sphere of working life does one person actively seek to dump another person out of a job and take his place. It's almost like job theft.

But someone loses their livelihood at the expense of another. Surely there should be an employment law that prevents that?

Councillors in the main don't get paid a salery - they get an allowance and expenses

can you justify why some heads of councils are on 100 to 200k salaries er sorry allowances please cos ile be buggered if i can find any justification for that "

Really can you quote any that are "paid" that much- the leader of a council usually gets paid I believe

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The funny thing about elections is that in no other sphere of working life does one person actively seek to dump another person out of a job and take his place. It's almost like job theft.

But someone loses their livelihood at the expense of another. Surely there should be an employment law that prevents that?

hazel blears she was a councillor then an mp now she been booted out along with labour...mps councillors call them what you want but to the people on the street ..there all simply one and the same.

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By *am sampsonMan over a year ago

cwmbran

"The funny thing about elections is that in no other sphere of working life does one person actively seek to dump another person out of a job and take his place. It's almost like job theft.

But someone loses their livelihood at the expense of another. Surely there should be an employment law that prevents that?

hazel blears she was a councillor then an mp now she been booted out along with labour...mps councillors call them what you want but to the people on the street ..there all simply one and the same. "

Maybe to you but I think most people realise they are different - they may think the same about all politicians granted

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The funny thing about elections is that in no other sphere of working life does one person actively seek to dump another person out of a job and take his place. It's almost like job theft.

But someone loses their livelihood at the expense of another. Surely there should be an employment law that prevents that?

Councillors in the main don't get paid a salery - they get an allowance and expenses

can you justify why some heads of councils are on 100 to 200k salaries er sorry allowances please cos ile be buggered if i can find any justification for that

Really can you quote any that are "paid" that much- the leader of a council usually gets paid I believe "

soz to have hit a nerve there ..in terms of googling it for you i cant be bothered m8 but i thought a man of yr staure would on occassion read the odd newspapers or watch the odd bit of news.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The funny thing about elections is that in no other sphere of working life does one person actively seek to dump another person out of a job and take his place. It's almost like job theft.

But someone loses their livelihood at the expense of another. Surely there should be an employment law that prevents that?

hazel blears she was a councillor then an mp now she been booted out along with labour...mps councillors call them what you want but to the people on the street ..there all simply one and the same.

Maybe to you but I think most people realise they are different - they may think the same about all politicians granted"

and i thought i could ramble

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Never knew you were a rambler

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By *am sampsonMan over a year ago

cwmbran

Issac you do seem to be showing you have very little knowledge of politics - you don't know the difference between a councillor and an MP and all you can do is quote meaningless facts that you read in newspaper

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Issac you do seem to be showing you have very little knowledge of politics - you don't know the difference between a councillor and an MP and all you can do is quote meaningless facts that you read in newspaper"

In a rambling fashion

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By *ixson-BallsMan over a year ago

Blackpool

does Labour gaining more councils mean that your bins will be emptied every week instead of a fortnight now??...

will the people really notice a difference in their overall living standards now that labours won so many??....

won't thinks plod on as normal really not

affecting the majority of the populace??

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Get in!!

In Newcastle? A ferret could wear a red rosette and get elected in Newcastle.

Don't know why I bother voting in Gateshead as it's been red since the 70s.

I mean country wide!

All the other non elected government have changed is their mind/promises. Scum both of them.

Well done today Labour

trying to find ut the Carlisle result, you dont know it do you?

(Carlisle is quite a good bell weather consituence for the swing vote...yes im married to a psephologist

Libs are out and labour now control Carlisle first time since 1999

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"does Labour gaining more councils mean that your bins will be emptied every week instead of a fortnight now??...

will the people really notice a difference in their overall living standards now that labours won so many??....

won't thinks plod on as normal really not

affecting the majority of the populace??"

I disagree. Personally I think they do more at local level when elected than country wide

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By *acreadCouple over a year ago

central scotland

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By *acreadCouple over a year ago

central scotland

"Personally I don't think the right leader is Ed, it should have been David.

I'm sure the anger in the people will last the next 3yrs as the government only seem interested in their own type of people once elected.

Being Scottish and having been shit upon by Tories for (ever) years i'll be labour til I die. That's unless anyone better comes along but doubt that very much.

With a bit of luck Scotland will vote for independence and Labour's safe seats north of the border will be gone."

And with a lot of luck you will stick by your promise to go to Australia or is it just a politicians promise.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"[Removed by poster at 04/05/12 13:18:26]"

What did you remove exactly? That lil red number?

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By *ixson-BallsMan over a year ago

Blackpool

"does Labour gaining more councils mean that your bins will be emptied every week instead of a fortnight now??...

will the people really notice a difference in their overall living standards now that labours won so many??....

won't thinks plod on as normal really not

affecting the majority of the populace??

I disagree. Personally I think they do more at local level when elected than country wide"

disagree by all means,....but correct me if i'm wrong, but you've never lived someplace where there is a tory run council...so who knows if it'd be run/or affected you differently?....

we've had labour and lib dems and both bollox things up from time to time...

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

tory run council?

My deepest sympathies.

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By *acreadCouple over a year ago

central scotland

The problem with New Labour is they lost sight of their roots and the fact that they were a party born to fight for the working man we now have a Tory party and a wee lapdog Tory party = (lib/dems) and a slightly left wing Tory party = Labour.

We realy do need another workers party and not one that only seems to pander to the well off.

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By *acreadCouple over a year ago

central scotland

"[Removed by poster at 04/05/12 13:18:26]

What did you remove exactly? That lil red number?

Yes on Tuesday night

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By *ucky_LadsCouple (MM) over a year ago

Kidderminster+ surrounding areas.

will tory & lib dems now change strategy?,and more importantly will labour keep to the promises they msade to get elected?.NAH!.

SNAFU

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

tbh i hate the lot of them they are just liars and cheats and government policies are not worth the paper they are written on

.the lib dems are being slaughtered and rightly so .clegg will only be remembered for being the worst leader of a party in living memory.labour would probably do a lot better with a strong leader red ed is boring ,dull and completely the wrong man for the job

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I know enough to know i dont want to know much about politics i know enough to know there all self serving gansters in suits with there own agendas rather than one that is to serve the people.

I also know that councillors are wanna be mps as i said earlier hazel blears was a labour councillor for my constituency and then labour were in power and she got to be elected a labour mp. labour got booted out so now shes back to being a labour councillor.

So call me stoopid if you want but in the majority of the peoples eyes councillors and mps are one of the same thing and cut from the same cloth.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Personally I don't think the right leader is Ed, it should have been David.

I'm sure the anger in the people will last the next 3yrs as the government only seem interested in their own type of people once elected.

Being Scottish and having been shit upon by Tories for (ever) years i'll be labour til I die. That's unless anyone better comes along but doubt that very much.

With a bit of luck Scotland will vote for independence and Labour's safe seats north of the border will be gone.

And with a lot of luck you will stick by your promise to go to Australia or is it just a politicians promise."

Thinking about it, if I go to Australia I'll probably bump into more Jocks then if I stayed here.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"tory run council?

My deepest sympathies.

they have ran trafford for years m8 lower council tax better housing bins emptied etc etc pity the same could never have been said for all the other manchester boroughs ran by labour.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"does Labour gaining more councils mean that your bins will be emptied every week instead of a fortnight now??..."

Gateshead is a Red till Dead constituency and our bins are now fortnightly. Labour councils don't do much more than Tory councils anyway and it's all about upstaging the national party in power with Labour councils across the country making the cuts they are told to make but they make them on front line services where it has more impact.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"does Labour gaining more councils mean that your bins will be emptied every week instead of a fortnight now??...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

reasons to never vote for labour.

they break most of there manifesto promises.

multiculturism minus any border control whatsover think the word was social enginnering one of tonies pet projects

lied to us on wmds leading to war and the ensuing death and destruction of both troops and civillians.

getting us into europe and paying the lions share with fuck all in return.

incompetent economic mismanagement eg selling of our gold reserves at a ridicoulously low price.

Giving peerages for favours.

allowing the banks to do what the fook they want by tranferring such power to the bank of england ...leading us to the mess were in at the moment

tessa jowel paying for porn with tax payers money .bloody outrageous...tories aint perfect by a long chalk but least there the lesser of two tossers ...if i ever did vote only ones ide prob consider would be ukip along the lines of charity begins at home ..but well there politicians to so pretty obvious they would break manifesto promises to once they gained power.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"reasons to never vote for labour.

1)they break most of there manifesto promises.

2)multiculturism minus any border control whatsover think the word was social enginnering one of tonies pet projects

3)lied to us on wmds leading to war and the ensuing death and destruction of both troops and civillians.

4)getting us into europe and paying the lions share with fuck all in return.

5)incompetent economic mismanagement eg selling of our gold reserves at a ridicoulously low price.

6)Giving peerages for favours.

7)allowing the banks to do what the fook they want by tranferring such power to the bank of england ...leading us to the mess were in at the moment

8)tessa jowel paying for porn with tax payers money .bloody outrageous...tories aint perfect by a long chalk but least there the lesser of two tossers

...if i ever did vote only ones ide prob consider would be ukip along the lines of charity begins at home ..but well there politicians to so pretty obvious they would break manifesto promises to once they gained power.

1) which party doesnt? The lib dems and tories are both doing a pretty good job of breaking almost all of theres.

2) Again its not got any better has it?

3) supported by most political parties, except the lib dems

4) Thats rubbish, we dont pay the largest amount and we get a lot out of it, we get agricultural subsidies, Cornwall gets funding as one of the poorest areas of the EU, we benefit from the trade tariffs.

5) Lots of countries sold gold at that time, the trend in macroeconomics was to move from basing currencies on gold to basing them on foreign currency holdings.

6) Has been done for centuries, not saying it is right but they weren't the only party. Most peers are still created for "services to the government" ie favours.

7) see point 5, they actually but more stops and checks in place than the tories wanted, we would have been in a bigger mess then.

8) Her husband put them on a bill for a hotel room which she was staying at on government business, she didnt check the receipt. Unlike a lot of the tory MPs who claimed for moat cleaning, floating duck islands and many many other things.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Kinda forgetting that we all are responsible for having ourselves a half assed undecided Conservative/Lib Dem government, and thats us, the population voting that created that.

One party would be progress.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"people dont trust red Ed.

anyone that stabs their brother in the back isnt trustworthy.

he should of allowed David to stand forward, being the senior politician, and been there to jump in when/if he failed.

and people don't trust him for how he did it - by getting so in hock to the Unions that I really do despair if Labour ever get back into power with Ed the Red in bed at No.10.

That's the day I'll start looking at Australia a bit more closely I think."

Ed the Red? If you think any leader of the Labour Party is a 'red' then you really are in need of some lessons in basic political philosophy. The Labour Party were never more than dark pink!

By all means call someone who is anti-capitalist 'red' but not someone who just grovels to the capitalists ever so slightly less than David Cameron does.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Kinda forgetting that we all are responsible for having ourselves a half assed undecided Conservative/Lib Dem government, and thats us, the population voting that created that.

One party would be progress."

ime not i didnt vote so didnt the majority thats why we got a hung parliment and a coalition ie ..an unelected government.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"reasons to never vote for labour.

they break most of there manifesto promises.

multiculturism minus any border control whatsover think the word was social enginnering one of tonies pet projects

lied to us on wmds leading to war and the ensuing death and destruction of both troops and civillians.

getting us into europe and paying the lions share with fuck all in return.

incompetent economic mismanagement eg selling of our gold reserves at a ridicoulously low price.

Giving peerages for favours.

allowing the banks to do what the fook they want by tranferring such power to the bank of england ...leading us to the mess were in at the moment

Well you need some basic lessons in recent History. It wasn't Labour who took us into 'Europe' as you put it, it was the Conservative Party under Edward Heath, and quite rightly so.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The problem with New Labour is they lost sight of their roots and the fact that they were a party born to fight for the working man we now have a Tory party and a wee lapdog Tory party = (lib/dems) and a slightly left wing Tory party = Labour.

We realy do need another workers party and not one that only seems to pander to the well off."

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"reasons to never vote for labour.

1)they break most of there manifesto promises.

2)multiculturism minus any border control whatsover think the word was social enginnering one of tonies pet projects

3)lied to us on wmds leading to war and the ensuing death and destruction of both troops and civillians.

4)getting us into europe and paying the lions share with fuck all in return.

5)incompetent economic mismanagement eg selling of our gold reserves at a ridicoulously low price.

6)Giving peerages for favours.

7)allowing the banks to do what the fook they want by tranferring such power to the bank of england ...leading us to the mess were in at the moment

8)tessa jowel paying for porn with tax payers money .bloody outrageous...tories aint perfect by a long chalk but least there the lesser of two tossers

1) which party doesnt? The lib dems and tories are both doing a pretty good job of breaking almost all of theres.

2) Again its not got any better has it?

3) supported by most political parties, except the lib dems

5) Lots of countries sold gold at that time, the trend in macroeconomics was to move from basing currencies on gold to basing them on foreign currency holdings.

6) Has been done for centuries, not saying it is right but they weren't the only party. Most peers are still created for "services to the government" ie favours.

7) see point 5, they actually but more stops and checks in place than the tories wanted, we would have been in a bigger mess then.

in reply to number 3 yes supported by other parties who believed tony blair and his fellow labourites spoon fed blatant lies because thay didnt know any better. .wmds and the invasion wasnt supported by the united nations or the arms inspectors. it wasnt even supported by members of your own party such as robin cook and claire short.

In reply to the rest i could reply i just cant be bothered. no offence intended ..what next labour are not responsible for the economic mess were in now? even at the time time of the hand over of power the labour treasurer left a note for the incoming tory treasure making a joke of how they had bankrupt the country ???? Nice to see labours true colours such as there only concern being to regain back power rather than any guilt or apology whatsover for turning the country into a virtual bankrupt one.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"reasons to never vote for labour.

1)they break most of there manifesto promises.

2)multiculturism minus any border control whatsover think the word was social enginnering one of tonies pet projects

3)lied to us on wmds leading to war and the ensuing death and destruction of both troops and civillians.

4)getting us into europe and paying the lions share with fuck all in return.

5)incompetent economic mismanagement eg selling of our gold reserves at a ridicoulously low price.

6)Giving peerages for favours.

7)allowing the banks to do what the fook they want by tranferring such power to the bank of england ...leading us to the mess were in at the moment

8)tessa jowel paying for porn with tax payers money .bloody outrageous...tories aint perfect by a long chalk but least there the lesser of two tossers

1) which party doesnt? The lib dems and tories are both doing a pretty good job of breaking almost all of theres.

2) Again its not got any better has it?

3) supported by most political parties, except the lib dems

5) Lots of countries sold gold at that time, the trend in macroeconomics was to move from basing currencies on gold to basing them on foreign currency holdings.

6) Has been done for centuries, not saying it is right but they weren't the only party. Most peers are still created for "services to the government" ie favours.

7) see point 5, they actually but more stops and checks in place than the tories wanted, we would have been in a bigger mess then.

True, blair lied through his teeth to get his war, and a lot of those who backed him are on the backbenches now.

No they arent, reckless lending by american mortgage firms to poor americans and the repackaging of those loans into AAA rated securities by the same firms now downgrading banks and governments. The country is not bankrupt we'd need debts a lot higher and a far weaker economy before that was even a brief worry.

Ministers do that all the time, they always leave jokey letters to there successors.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"reasons to never vote for labour.

they break most of there manifesto promises.

multiculturism minus any border control whatsover think the word was social enginnering one of tonies pet projects

lied to us on wmds leading to war and the ensuing death and destruction of both troops and civillians.

getting us into europe and paying the lions share with fuck all in return.

incompetent economic mismanagement eg selling of our gold reserves at a ridicoulously low price.

Giving peerages for favours.

allowing the banks to do what the fook they want by tranferring such power to the bank of england ...leading us to the mess were in at the moment

Well you need some basic lessons in recent History. It wasn't Labour who took us into 'Europe' as you put it, it was the Conservative Party under Edward Heath, and quite rightly so. "

Nope think your mistaking the eec which the tories took us into with the european union.

the first one ie the eec which the tories took into was simply an international treaty based on trading manufacturing and goods.

The second one ie the european union which tony blair and labour signed us up to ...without giving us a referendum was to sign over hand over most of our sovereign rights such as our laws our policy decisions etc to the european union in brussells.

Why is it that labour supporters always try to pull this baloney .. oh i its to try to cover up there own parties abject surrender to europe..which was.probably for seats in brussells after there stint as a labour mp came to an end.

My grandad like many others grandads thought in the war putting his life on the line to uphold this countries freedoms values and beliefs from the nazis... only for some smarmy snake eyed politician in a polyester suit goin by the name of tony blair to sign away such freedoms to govern ourselves with the stroke of a pen on the promise of being the uber alles of europe.

How he is now a middle east peace envoy bearing in mind his lil white lie over weapons of mass destruction and the needless deaths that ensued beggars belief.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"reasons to never vote for labour.

they break most of there manifesto promises.

multiculturism minus any border control whatsover think the word was social enginnering one of tonies pet projects

lied to us on wmds leading to war and the ensuing death and destruction of both troops and civillians.

getting us into europe and paying the lions share with fuck all in return.

incompetent economic mismanagement eg selling of our gold reserves at a ridicoulously low price.

Giving peerages for favours.

allowing the banks to do what the fook they want by tranferring such power to the bank of england ...leading us to the mess were in at the moment

Well you need some basic lessons in recent History. It wasn't Labour who took us into 'Europe' as you put it, it was the Conservative Party under Edward Heath, and quite rightly so.

Nope think your mistaking the eec which the tories took us into with the european union.

the first one ie the eec which the tories took into was simply an international treaty based on trading manufacturing and goods.

How he is now a middle east peace envoy bearing in mind his lil white lie over weapons of mass destruction and the needless deaths that ensued beggars belief.

Your ignorance has just blinded me. The EU was created by the Maastricht treaty signed in 1992/1993 under the government of John Major a tory. The EEC was subsumed into the EU which was its replacement.

Dont bring the war into it, almost everyone grandparents fought in it. The EEC/EU was created to bring about European integration to avoid future European war.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"reasons to never vote for labour.

they break most of there manifesto promises.

multiculturism minus any border control whatsover think the word was social enginnering one of tonies pet projects

lied to us on wmds leading to war and the ensuing death and destruction of both troops and civillians.

getting us into europe and paying the lions share with fuck all in return.

incompetent economic mismanagement eg selling of our gold reserves at a ridicoulously low price.

Giving peerages for favours.

allowing the banks to do what the fook they want by tranferring such power to the bank of england ...leading us to the mess were in at the moment

Well you need some basic lessons in recent History. It wasn't Labour who took us into 'Europe' as you put it, it was the Conservative Party under Edward Heath, and quite rightly so.

Nope think your mistaking the eec which the tories took us into with the european union.

the first one ie the eec which the tories took into was simply an international treaty based on trading manufacturing and goods.

How he is now a middle east peace envoy bearing in mind his lil white lie over weapons of mass destruction and the needless deaths that ensued beggars belief.

Dont bring the war into it, almost everyone grandparents fought in it. The EEC/EU was created to bring about European integration to avoid future European war."

You can google all you want on dates and times the fact is the eec the european economic community (EEC) and the European Union (EU) are not nor have they ever been the same treaty

With regards to not bringing the war into it..why not ? ...its still relativley a free country thanks to mine and others grandads who protected us from the nazis or would you rather we all forgot about there sacrifices ?? The 2nd world wasr was us defending our way of life our country ....The Iraqi war was an invasion based on lies by tony blair and his spin doctor to secure oil contracts with the americans

where you call me ignorant well yr welcome to your opinion of me...its a free country therfore a free chat room given to you by the bravery and blood of our forefathers.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"reasons to never vote for labour.

they break most of there manifesto promises.

multiculturism minus any border control whatsover think the word was social enginnering one of tonies pet projects

lied to us on wmds leading to war and the ensuing death and destruction of both troops and civillians.

getting us into europe and paying the lions share with fuck all in return.

incompetent economic mismanagement eg selling of our gold reserves at a ridicoulously low price.

Giving peerages for favours.

allowing the banks to do what the fook they want by tranferring such power to the bank of england ...leading us to the mess were in at the moment

Well you need some basic lessons in recent History. It wasn't Labour who took us into 'Europe' as you put it, it was the Conservative Party under Edward Heath, and quite rightly so.

Nope think your mistaking the eec which the tories took us into with the european union.

the first one ie the eec which the tories took into was simply an international treaty based on trading manufacturing and goods.

How he is now a middle east peace envoy bearing in mind his lil white lie over weapons of mass destruction and the needless deaths that ensued beggars belief.

Dont bring the war into it, almost everyone grandparents fought in it. The EEC/EU was created to bring about European integration to avoid future European war."

cutting to the chase ..it wasnt a tory who signed away our sovereign right to govern ourselves now was it ...it was tony blair ..then further parts of our countries rights were signed away by david milliband under the premiership of gordon brown

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"reasons to never vote for labour.

they break most of there manifesto promises.

multiculturism minus any border control whatsover think the word was social enginnering one of tonies pet projects

lied to us on wmds leading to war and the ensuing death and destruction of both troops and civillians.

getting us into europe and paying the lions share with fuck all in return.

incompetent economic mismanagement eg selling of our gold reserves at a ridicoulously low price.

Giving peerages for favours.

allowing the banks to do what the fook they want by tranferring such power to the bank of england ...leading us to the mess were in at the moment

Well you need some basic lessons in recent History. It wasn't Labour who took us into 'Europe' as you put it, it was the Conservative Party under Edward Heath, and quite rightly so.

Nope think your mistaking the eec which the tories took us into with the european union.

the first one ie the eec which the tories took into was simply an international treaty based on trading manufacturing and goods.

How he is now a middle east peace envoy bearing in mind his lil white lie over weapons of mass destruction and the needless deaths that ensued beggars belief.

Dont bring the war into it, almost everyone grandparents fought in it. The EEC/EU was created to bring about European integration to avoid future European war.

Proof that it was tony blair?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

pssst.. when you click 'Quote' you can highlight the first 50 paragraphs and get rid of them leaving only the last post that you actually want to reply to. It's quite tedious scrolling down through repost after repost of the same information trying to work out who said what.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Dont get why most people only eva vote one of the 3, non of the others eva get any news coverage.

Why everyone is voting lab again, they made things worse in the first place, and now the con/lib just made it even worse.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By *ucky_LadsCouple (MM) over a year ago

Kidderminster+ surrounding areas.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"reasons to never vote for labour.

they break most of there manifesto promises.

multiculturism minus any border control whatsover think the word was social enginnering one of tonies pet projects

lied to us on wmds leading to war and the ensuing death and destruction of both troops and civillians.

getting us into europe and paying the lions share with fuck all in return.

incompetent economic mismanagement eg selling of our gold reserves at a ridicoulously low price.

Giving peerages for favours.

allowing the banks to do what the fook they want by tranferring such power to the bank of england ...leading us to the mess were in at the moment

Well you need some basic lessons in recent History. It wasn't Labour who took us into 'Europe' as you put it, it was the Conservative Party under Edward Heath, and quite rightly so.

Nope think your mistaking the eec which the tories took us into with the european union.

the first one ie the eec which the tories took into was simply an international treaty based on trading manufacturing and goods.

How he is now a middle east peace envoy bearing in mind his lil white lie over weapons of mass destruction and the needless deaths that ensued beggars belief.

Dont bring the war into it, almost everyone grandparents fought in it. The EEC/EU was created to bring about European integration to avoid future European war.

Proof that it was tony blair?"
you like your google so much u find it ...its not hard to find at all. kinda get the feeling though that even seeing him sign it yrself.. yd still think it was some elaborate tory plot ...them using cgi technology to create an image of him signing it. ...btw no need for any apologies over the ignorant jibe if i cared what people thought of me ide be doin take a look at my profile posts

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By *ucky_LadsCouple (MM) over a year ago

Kidderminster+ surrounding areas.

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maybe labour have learned something from the mistakes they made in the 10+years in government and now want to put it right for us the voters?.

oops!,did i just see a pig flying over head?.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You can google all you want on dates and times the fact is the eec the european economic community (EEC) and the European Union (EU) are not nor have they ever been the same treaty

where you call me ignorant well yr welcome to your opinion of me...its a free country therfore a free chat room given to you by the bravery and blood of our forefathers. "

No they arent the same treaty, the Masstricht treaty was a successor to the treaty of rome the EU replaced the EEC when the EEC became the European commission before the treaty of lisbon.

I never said forget there sacrifices but its disingenuous to bring WW2 into a discussion about the EU and Labour, Churchill was a proponent of European integration. To use the sacrifices of millions to say we should all turn our back on each other because it will give us more freedom is rubbish. EU laws on data security and rights are the only things stopping the governments attacks on civil liberties.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

" Proof that it was tony blair? you like your google so much u find it ...its not hard to find at all. kinda get the feeling though that even seeing him sign it yrself.. yd still think it was some elaborate tory plot ...them using cgi technology to create an image of him signing it. ...btw no need for any apologies over the ignorant jibe if i cared what people thought of me ide be doin take a look at my profile posts

See thats the trouble, i cant find it. The treaty of lisbon i can find on google, but that "didnt take us into the EU" it reformed the EU

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You can google all you want on dates and times the fact is the eec the european economic community (EEC) and the European Union (EU) are not nor have they ever been the same treaty

where you call me ignorant well yr welcome to your opinion of me...its a free country therfore a free chat room given to you by the bravery and blood of our forefathers.

No they arent the same treaty, the Masstricht treaty was a successor to the treaty of rome the EU replaced the EEC when the EEC became the European commission before the treaty of lisbon.

to quote a phrase ...you can take a horse to water but you cant make it drink it ...or remove its blinkers i guess.. btw ime only of underclass origin i dont understand fancy words i do know when ime being taken for a mug though ...its why i no longer vote

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You can google all you want on dates and times the fact is the eec the european economic community (EEC) and the European Union (EU) are not nor have they ever been the same treaty

where you call me ignorant well yr welcome to your opinion of me...its a free country therfore a free chat room given to you by the bravery and blood of our forefathers.

No they arent the same treaty, the Masstricht treaty was a successor to the treaty of rome the EU replaced the EEC when the EEC became the European commission before the treaty of lisbon.

if you dont vote why are you slating tony blair you gave up your right to winge about any goverment the day you decided you no longer want to vote

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Only when it is written in the history books that Labour destroyed this country,will Labour supporters wake up and realise they helped these traitors make a fine mess of a once great country.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You can google all you want on dates and times the fact is the eec the european economic community (EEC) and the European Union (EU) are not nor have they ever been the same treaty

where you call me ignorant well yr welcome to your opinion of me...its a free country therfore a free chat room given to you by the bravery and blood of our forefathers.

No they arent the same treaty, the Masstricht treaty was a successor to the treaty of rome the EU replaced the EEC when the EEC became the European commission before the treaty of lisbon.

if you dont vote why are you slating tony blair you gave up your right to winge about any goverment the day you decided you no longer want to vote "

probably ..In the misguided hope that i may stop anybody who is thinking of voting labour ever again ...from not doing.

i see ime now winging when all ime doin is recalling the facts as they happened ..i call it ....stating it at is or as it was.

Tony blair is the sole reason why i will never ever trust any politicians words ever again.

Please explain to me how by choosing to abstain from voting ime no entitled to vote in the future should i choose to do ?? ..

and here was me thinking it was my democratic right "to choose" ..not to vote...although i have heard that there thinking of making it law that you have to vote with threats of fines and imprisonment if you dont...wheres the democracy to that still at least on the plus side there would be a mad rush to build more prisons to imprison over half the population of non voters. ...maybe that way more pedos would get longer sentances rather than slaps on the wrist.....ime goin of on a tangent again here arnt i

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By *am sampsonMan over a year ago

cwmbran

" Only when it is written in the history books that Labour destroyed this country,will Labour supporters wake up and realise they helped these traitors make a fine mess of a once great country."

It will never be written in the history books because it never happened