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"Absolute legend. Also “Black” isn’t even the most powerful track on his album. It’s incredible. He’s only 21. Madness" Never heard of him. Why is he incredible ? | |||
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"Absolute legend. Also “Black” isn’t even the most powerful track on his album. It’s incredible. He’s only 21. Madness Never heard of him. Why is he incredible ?" Awesome. Great contribution to the thread  | |||
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"Yet if a white guy did the same and called it white there would be uproar. Personally i think hes crap but im not into grime/hiphop." I’m with you on this one .... at the risk of likely uproar! R x | |||
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"Absolute legend. Also “Black” isn’t even the most powerful track on his album. It’s incredible. He’s only 21. Madness Never heard of him. Why is he incredible ? Awesome. Great contribution to the thread "Awsome. Amazing answer thanks. | |||
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"Absolute legend. Also “Black” isn’t even the most powerful track on his album. It’s incredible. He’s only 21. Madness Never heard of him. Why is he incredible ? Awesome. Great contribution to the thread "Don't miss out the opportunity to give as good answers to others that have never heard of him.... | |||
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"Absolute legend. Also “Black” isn’t even the most powerful track on his album. It’s incredible. He’s only 21. Madness Never heard of him. Why is he incredible ? Awesome. Great contribution to the thread
Don't miss out the opportunity to give as good answers to others that have never heard of him.... "Awesome suggestion Granny | |||
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"Absolute legend. Also “Black” isn’t even the most powerful track on his album. It’s incredible. He’s only 21. Madness Never heard of him. Why is he incredible ? Awesome. Great contribution to the thread
Don't miss out the opportunity to give as good answers to others that have never heard of him.... "I’m so sorry that I didn’t make it blindingly obviously what I was talking about. Again, my sincere apologies for forcefully making you post on a thread where your have no knowledge of the subject. | |||
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"I thought Dave had enough on their plate with Top Gear,Taskmaster and Judge Romesh...." I don't find Romesh funny.... | |||
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"I thought Dave had enough on their plate with Top Gear,Taskmaster and Judge Romesh.... I don't find Romesh funny.... " I do know who he is though. | |||
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"Absolute legend. Also “Black” isn’t even the most powerful track on his album. It’s incredible. He’s only 21. Madness Never heard of him. Why is he incredible ? Awesome. Great contribution to the thread
Don't miss out the opportunity to give as good answers to others that have never heard of him....
I’m so sorry that I didn’t make it blindingly obviously what I was talking about. Again, my sincere apologies for forcefully making you post on a thread where your have no knowledge of the subject. "Someone actually engage with you and asked you why you think he is incredible! Or were you juat after Ya Dave Rocks comments | |||
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"awwwwwwww don't be sorry. You don't have that power. BUT....... I asked a legitimate question and you missed the opportunity to be decent and big him up. I did want to know. " Imagine not knowing how to utilise google. If you don’t know, it’s not on me to tell you. Maybe think if you’ve nothing of any real note to bring to a discussion it might be beneficial to keep ones opinion to oneself | |||
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"Absolute legend. Also “Black” isn’t even the most powerful track on his album. It’s incredible. He’s only 21. Madness Never heard of him. Why is he incredible ? Awesome. Great contribution to the thread "a question was asked. No need to get sarcastic. I've never heard of him either. Was a load of shite if you ask me | |||
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"awwwwwwww don't be sorry. You don't have that power. BUT....... I asked a legitimate question and you missed the opportunity to be decent and big him up. I did want to know. Imagine not knowing how to utilise google. If you don’t know, it’s not on me to tell you. Maybe think if you’ve nothing of any real note to bring to a discussion it might be beneficial to keep ones opinion to oneself " Nobody else had posted. I sometimes do that just to bump a thread. I saw it as a nice thing to ask. | |||
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"Absolute legend. Also “Black” isn’t even the most powerful track on his album. It’s incredible. He’s only 21. Madness" Yes he's brilliant xxxx | |||
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"Absolute legend. Also “Black” isn’t even the most powerful track on his album. It’s incredible. He’s only 21. Madness Never heard of him. Why is he incredible ? Awesome. Great contribution to the thread
Don't miss out the opportunity to give as good answers to others that have never heard of him....
I’m so sorry that I didn’t make it blindingly obviously what I was talking about. Again, my sincere apologies for forcefully making you post on a thread where your have no knowledge of the subject. " | |||
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"I’d never heard of him either. Belly laughed when I heard someone just called ‘Dave’ was nominated tho! Zero fucks given "Yet here you are , commenting about him on a sex site forum | |||
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"Absolute legend. Also “Black” isn’t even the most powerful track on his album. It’s incredible. He’s only 21. Madness Yes he's brilliant xxxx" He is very very talented , | |||
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"Absolute legend. Also “Black” isn’t even the most powerful track on his album. It’s incredible. He’s only 21. Madness Yes he's brilliant xxxx He is very very talented , "  | |||
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"I've seen the clip of his " performance " . Utter fucking drivel !!" You can’t please everyone | |||
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"I’d never heard of him either. Belly laughed when I heard someone just called ‘Dave’ was nominated tho! Zero fucks given
Yet here you are , commenting about him on a sex site forum "Exactly! He’s not trying to be edgy or a jumped up tit like a lot of other artists trying too hard these days like that Yungblud creep. He’s just Dave | |||
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"I've seen the clip of his " performance " . Utter fucking drivel !! You can’t please everyone "True | |||
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"I’d never heard of him either. Belly laughed when I heard someone just called ‘Dave’ was nominated tho! Zero fucks given
Yet here you are , commenting about him on a sex site forum
Exactly! He’s not trying to be edgy or a jumped up tit like a lot of other artists trying too hard these days like that Yungblud creep. He’s just Dave "I agree. He is multi talented and a good role model for kids , what isn’t to like about him | |||
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"Absolute legend. Also “Black” isn’t even the most powerful track on his album. It’s incredible. He’s only 21. Madness Never heard of him. Why is he incredible ? Awesome. Great contribution to the thread a question was asked. No need to get sarcastic. I've never heard of him either. Was a load of shite if you ask me "Again, imagine not being able to utilise google. It’s not like the thread title isn’t blindingly obvious what I was talking about. I’m all for opinions from people that either saw it or people that know of him. Each to their own. I still don’t know what “I’ve never heard of him” brings to the table | |||
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"awwwwwwww don't be sorry. You don't have that power. BUT....... I asked a legitimate question and you missed the opportunity to be decent and big him up. I did want to know. Imagine not knowing how to utilise google. If you don’t know, it’s not on me to tell you. Maybe think if you’ve nothing of any real note to bring to a discussion it might be beneficial to keep ones opinion to oneself " I know how to use Google. I'll show you if you like. You are right about opinons and having nothing to offer though. You can teach me that in exchange. | |||
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"awwwwwwww don't be sorry. You don't have that power. BUT....... I asked a legitimate question and you missed the opportunity to be decent and big him up. I did want to know. Imagine not knowing how to utilise google. If you don’t know, it’s not on me to tell you. Maybe think if you’ve nothing of any real note to bring to a discussion it might be beneficial to keep ones opinion to oneself I know how to use Google. I'll show you if you like. You are right about opinons and having nothing to offer though. You can teach me that in exchange. " Can you really teach people on a sex site forum? I agree with OP I would have thought google was a better option? | |||
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"Utter dial a cliche rubbish. Where's that bandwagon gotta jump on it" I don't think a middle aged couple from Cornwall are his target audience | |||
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"Why was Dave openly allowed to be racist yet if a white person sand those lyrics they would have been boo’d of the stage. People like him add to the negative racist society that some live in. Every race have those who have beliefs we don’t all agree with. He’s a singer not a politician he needs to remember that " Was he racist? | |||
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"awwwwwwww don't be sorry. You don't have that power. BUT....... I asked a legitimate question and you missed the opportunity to be decent and big him up. I did want to know. Imagine not knowing how to utilise google. If you don’t know, it’s not on me to tell you. Maybe think if you’ve nothing of any real note to bring to a discussion it might be beneficial to keep ones opinion to oneself I know how to use Google. I'll show you if you like. You are right about opinons and having nothing to offer though. You can teach me that in exchange. " Thanks for the offer, I’ll decline As for opinions, maybe if you’ve no knowledge of something perhaps best if you say nothing for fear of looking silly on a public forum. An opinion and a platform with which to voice it doesn’t make that opinion valid | |||
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"He said the PM was racist, to be fair there’s a pretty large body of work of his own words and actions that you can back that up with What did he say that was racist about other people though?" Exactly. He’s entitled to his opinion about the prime minister. I didn’t see anything racist he said himself tho | |||
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"Why was Dave openly allowed to be racist yet if a white person sand those lyrics they would have been boo’d of the stage. People like him add to the negative racist society that some live in. Every race have those who have beliefs we don’t all agree with. He’s a singer not a politician he needs to remember that " In what way was he openly racist? | |||
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"Didn’t Stormzy do the whole politics thing at the Brits back in 2018?" Yup. Personally I think it’s a bit yawnsville but it generates headlines, news articles and top of the hour stories on the 24hr news channels which means KERCHING for him | |||
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"Didn’t Stormzy do the whole politics thing at the Brits back in 2018? Yup. Personally I think it’s a bit yawnsville but it generates headlines, news articles and top of the hour stories on the 24hr news channels which means KERCHING for him "My point exactly  | |||
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"Why was Dave openly allowed to be racist yet if a white person sand those lyrics they would have been boo’d of the stage. People like him add to the negative racist society that some live in. Every race have those who have beliefs we don’t all agree with. He’s a singer not a politician he needs to remember that " If you can vote, then politics is relevant to everyone. I'm in IT but talk about politics. Maybe I shouldn't? As a performer he has a platform to reach people disengaged from politics (and even society). If he can reach them, then excellent. I thought he's was pretty factual. | |||
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"awwwwwwww don't be sorry. You don't have that power. BUT....... I asked a legitimate question and you missed the opportunity to be decent and big him up. I did want to know. Imagine not knowing how to utilise google. If you don’t know, it’s not on me to tell you. Maybe think if you’ve nothing of any real note to bring to a discussion it might be beneficial to keep ones opinion to oneself I know how to use Google. I'll show you if you like. You are right about opinons and having nothing to offer though. You can teach me that in exchange. Thanks for the offer, I’ll decline As for opinions, maybe if you’ve no knowledge of something perhaps best if you say nothing for fear of looking silly on a public forum. An opinion and a platform with which to voice it doesn’t make that opinion valid " I didn't pass an opinion. I asked a question. | |||
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"Didn’t Stormzy do the whole politics thing at the Brits back in 2018? " Oh, blimey, I never realised politics stopped two years ago. | |||
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"Why was Dave openly allowed to be racist yet if a white person sand those lyrics they would have been boo’d of the stage. People like him add to the negative racist society that some live in. Every race have those who have beliefs we don’t all agree with. He’s a singer not a politician he needs to remember that " At what point was he being racist??  | |||
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"Didn’t Stormzy do the whole politics thing at the Brits back in 2018? Oh, blimey, I never realised politics stopped two years ago. " It didn’t, my point was that his performance wasn’t original? | |||
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"Why was Dave openly allowed to be racist yet if a white person sand those lyrics they would have been boo’d of the stage. People like him add to the negative racist society that some live in. Every race have those who have beliefs we don’t all agree with. He’s a singer not a politician he needs to remember that If you can vote, then politics is relevant to everyone. I'm in IT but talk about politics. Maybe I shouldn't? As a performer he has a platform to reach people disengaged from politics (and even society). If he can reach them, then excellent. I thought he's was pretty factual. " Or is he doing this to influence others to agree with what he thinks? | |||
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"Didn’t Stormzy do the whole politics thing at the Brits back in 2018? Oh, blimey, I never realised politics stopped two years ago. It didn’t, my point was that his performance wasn’t original? " Very little is totally original. But that doesn't stop it from being relevant. Or entertaining for that matter. | |||
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"Why was Dave openly allowed to be racist yet if a white person sand those lyrics they would have been boo’d of the stage. People like him add to the negative racist society that some live in. Every race have those who have beliefs we don’t all agree with. He’s a singer not a politician he needs to remember that If you can vote, then politics is relevant to everyone. I'm in IT but talk about politics. Maybe I shouldn't? As a performer he has a platform to reach people disengaged from politics (and even society). If he can reach them, then excellent. I thought he's was pretty factual. Or is he doing this to influence others to agree with what he thinks?" That's sort of the definition of politics... | |||
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"Why was Dave openly allowed to be racist yet if a white person sand those lyrics they would have been boo’d of the stage. People like him add to the negative racist society that some live in. Every race have those who have beliefs we don’t all agree with. He’s a singer not a politician he needs to remember that If you can vote, then politics is relevant to everyone. I'm in IT but talk about politics. Maybe I shouldn't? As a performer he has a platform to reach people disengaged from politics (and even society). If he can reach them, then excellent. I thought he's was pretty factual. Or is he doing this to influence others to agree with what he thinks? That's sort of the definition of politics... " By politicians.. not some rapper | |||
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"Why was Dave openly allowed to be racist yet if a white person sand those lyrics they would have been boo’d of the stage. People like him add to the negative racist society that some live in. Every race have those who have beliefs we don’t all agree with. He’s a singer not a politician he needs to remember that If you can vote, then politics is relevant to everyone. I'm in IT but talk about politics. Maybe I shouldn't? As a performer he has a platform to reach people disengaged from politics (and even society). If he can reach them, then excellent. I thought he's was pretty factual. Or is he doing this to influence others to agree with what he thinks? That's sort of the definition of politics... By politicians.. not some rapper" Are politicians the only people allowed an opinion on politics? | |||
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"Why was Dave openly allowed to be racist yet if a white person sand those lyrics they would have been boo’d of the stage. People like him add to the negative racist society that some live in. Every race have those who have beliefs we don’t all agree with. He’s a singer not a politician he needs to remember that If you can vote, then politics is relevant to everyone. I'm in IT but talk about politics. Maybe I shouldn't? As a performer he has a platform to reach people disengaged from politics (and even society). If he can reach them, then excellent. I thought he's was pretty factual. Or is he doing this to influence others to agree with what he thinks? That's sort of the definition of politics... By politicians.. not some rapper Are politicians the only people allowed an opinion on politics? " No, but their opinion is their opinion.. when a rapper starts calling people racist and spreading their own agenda, thats not politics | |||
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"awwwwwwww don't be sorry. You don't have that power. BUT....... I asked a legitimate question and you missed the opportunity to be decent and big him up. I did want to know. Imagine not knowing how to utilise google. If you don’t know, it’s not on me to tell you. Maybe think if you’ve nothing of any real note to bring to a discussion it might be beneficial to keep ones opinion to oneself I know how to use Google. I'll show you if you like. You are right about opinons and having nothing to offer though. You can teach me that in exchange. Thanks for the offer, I’ll decline As for opinions, maybe if you’ve no knowledge of something perhaps best if you say nothing for fear of looking silly on a public forum. An opinion and a platform with which to voice it doesn’t make that opinion valid I didn't pass an opinion. I asked a question. " And then offered up an opinion as to how I should’ve answered you. Can you see the circles we are running around in? | |||
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"Why was Dave openly allowed to be racist yet if a white person sand those lyrics they would have been boo’d of the stage. People like him add to the negative racist society that some live in. Every race have those who have beliefs we don’t all agree with. He’s a singer not a politician he needs to remember that If you can vote, then politics is relevant to everyone. I'm in IT but talk about politics. Maybe I shouldn't? As a performer he has a platform to reach people disengaged from politics (and even society). If he can reach them, then excellent. I thought he's was pretty factual. Or is he doing this to influence others to agree with what he thinks? That's sort of the definition of politics... By politicians.. not some rapper Are politicians the only people allowed an opinion on politics? No, but their opinion is their opinion.. when a rapper starts calling people racist and spreading their own agenda, thats not politics" So he isn’t allowed to mention politics? Sounds like North Korea | |||
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"Just googled him...he's shit " He will be gutted when he finds out | |||
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"Just googled him...he's shit He will be gutted when he finds out "I'm sure the op will let me know I'm wrong | |||
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"Why was Dave openly allowed to be racist yet if a white person sand those lyrics they would have been boo’d of the stage. People like him add to the negative racist society that some live in. Every race have those who have beliefs we don’t all agree with. He’s a singer not a politician he needs to remember that If you can vote, then politics is relevant to everyone. I'm in IT but talk about politics. Maybe I shouldn't? As a performer he has a platform to reach people disengaged from politics (and even society). If he can reach them, then excellent. I thought he's was pretty factual. Or is he doing this to influence others to agree with what he thinks? That's sort of the definition of politics... By politicians.. not some rapper Are politicians the only people allowed an opinion on politics? No, but their opinion is their opinion.. when a rapper starts calling people racist and spreading their own agenda, thats not politics" There’s been protest songs since pop music began tho. Didn’t the sex pistols call the monarchy a fascist regime? Let people in the industry voice their opinions I say, people don’t make their minds up from what their celebrity idols tell them to think. | |||
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"Didn’t Stormzy do the whole politics thing at the Brits back in 2018? Oh, blimey, I never realised politics stopped two years ago. " Very well put with the right shade of sarcasm | |||
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"I thought Dave had enough on their plate with Top Gear,Taskmaster and Judge Romesh.... I don't find Romesh funny.... I do know who he is though." He's certainly funnier than Nish and I like his deadpan sarcasm. | |||
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"Why was Dave openly allowed to be racist yet if a white person sand those lyrics they would have been boo’d of the stage. People like him add to the negative racist society that some live in. Every race have those who have beliefs we don’t all agree with. He’s a singer not a politician he needs to remember that If you can vote, then politics is relevant to everyone. I'm in IT but talk about politics. Maybe I shouldn't? As a performer he has a platform to reach people disengaged from politics (and even society). If he can reach them, then excellent. I thought he's was pretty factual. Or is he doing this to influence others to agree with what he thinks? That's sort of the definition of politics... By politicians.. not some rapper Are politicians the only people allowed an opinion on politics? No, but their opinion is their opinion.. when a rapper starts calling people racist and spreading their own agenda, thats not politics" So to have an opinion on racisim or politics in general he should quit rapping? | |||
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"awwwwwwww don't be sorry. You don't have that power. BUT....... I asked a legitimate question and you missed the opportunity to be decent and big him up. I did want to know. Imagine not knowing how to utilise google. If you don’t know, it’s not on me to tell you. Maybe think if you’ve nothing of any real note to bring to a discussion it might be beneficial to keep ones opinion to oneself I know how to use Google. I'll show you if you like. You are right about opinons and having nothing to offer though. You can teach me that in exchange. Thanks for the offer, I’ll decline As for opinions, maybe if you’ve no knowledge of something perhaps best if you say nothing for fear of looking silly on a public forum. An opinion and a platform with which to voice it doesn’t make that opinion valid I didn't pass an opinion. I asked a question. And then offered up an opinion as to how I should’ve answered you. Can you see the circles we are running around in?" Actually she never asked who he was on her first comment. She said she didn't know who he was. It was not a challenge, it was not a "you are wrong", it was a genuine question. Then asked why is he incredible. If she googled that she would not actually find out directly why it is incredible, just information about him. You are the one (and others) saying it is incredible. She is requesting your opinion on why you think this. Your lack of willingness to share and turn it in to sarcasm and then an argument is the problem with issues like this the world over, people are not willing to discuss subjects and issues, just be in a position full of yes men and have their opinions agreed with. | |||
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"awwwwwwww don't be sorry. You don't have that power. BUT....... I asked a legitimate question and you missed the opportunity to be decent and big him up. I did want to know. Imagine not knowing how to utilise google. If you don’t know, it’s not on me to tell you. Maybe think if you’ve nothing of any real note to bring to a discussion it might be beneficial to keep ones opinion to oneself I know how to use Google. I'll show you if you like. You are right about opinons and having nothing to offer though. You can teach me that in exchange. Thanks for the offer, I’ll decline As for opinions, maybe if you’ve no knowledge of something perhaps best if you say nothing for fear of looking silly on a public forum. An opinion and a platform with which to voice it doesn’t make that opinion valid I didn't pass an opinion. I asked a question. And then offered up an opinion as to how I should’ve answered you. Can you see the circles we are running around in? Actually she never asked who he was on her first comment. She said she didn't know who he was. It was not a challenge, it was not a "you are wrong", it was a genuine question. Then asked why is he incredible. If she googled that she would not actually find out directly why it is incredible, just information about him. You are the one (and others) saying it is incredible. She is requesting your opinion on why you think this. Your lack of willingness to share and turn it in to sarcasm and then an argument is the problem with issues like this the world over, people are not willing to discuss subjects and issues, just be in a position full of yes men and have their opinions agreed with." So instead of trying to educate you just add to the hate so to speak. Which is actually one of the issues with racism, the lack of willingness to learn and educate. Take a look at Anthony Mackie's recent interview for a great example of talking to educate and learn. | |||
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"awwwwwwww don't be sorry. You don't have that power. BUT....... I asked a legitimate question and you missed the opportunity to be decent and big him up. I did want to know. Imagine not knowing how to utilise google. If you don’t know, it’s not on me to tell you. Maybe think if you’ve nothing of any real note to bring to a discussion it might be beneficial to keep ones opinion to oneself I know how to use Google. I'll show you if you like. You are right about opinons and having nothing to offer though. You can teach me that in exchange. Thanks for the offer, I’ll decline As for opinions, maybe if you’ve no knowledge of something perhaps best if you say nothing for fear of looking silly on a public forum. An opinion and a platform with which to voice it doesn’t make that opinion valid I didn't pass an opinion. I asked a question. And then offered up an opinion as to how I should’ve answered you. Can you see the circles we are running around in?" No but I can see you chasing your tail so that you don't have to answer a simple polite question. I'll agree to totally ignore you - it'll will be easy and you do the same for me. | |||
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"awwwwwwww don't be sorry. You don't have that power. BUT....... I asked a legitimate question and you missed the opportunity to be decent and big him up. I did want to know. Imagine not knowing how to utilise google. If you don’t know, it’s not on me to tell you. Maybe think if you’ve nothing of any real note to bring to a discussion it might be beneficial to keep ones opinion to oneself I know how to use Google. I'll show you if you like. You are right about opinons and having nothing to offer though. You can teach me that in exchange. Thanks for the offer, I’ll decline As for opinions, maybe if you’ve no knowledge of something perhaps best if you say nothing for fear of looking silly on a public forum. An opinion and a platform with which to voice it doesn’t make that opinion valid I didn't pass an opinion. I asked a question. And then offered up an opinion as to how I should’ve answered you. Can you see the circles we are running around in? Actually she never asked who he was on her first comment. She said she didn't know who he was. It was not a challenge, it was not a "you are wrong", it was a genuine question. Then asked why is he incredible. If she googled that she would not actually find out directly why it is incredible, just information about him. You are the one (and others) saying it is incredible. She is requesting your opinion on why you think this. Your lack of willingness to share and turn it in to sarcasm and then an argument is the problem with issues like this the world over, people are not willing to discuss subjects and issues, just be in a position full of yes men and have their opinions agreed with. So instead of trying to educate you just add to the hate so to speak. Which is actually one of the issues with racism, the lack of willingness to learn and educate. Take a look at Anthony Mackie's recent interview for a great example of talking to educate and learn. " BOOM!!! Nailed it ^ | |||
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"https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mXLS2IzZSdg There you go OP I have done the hard work for you, maybe it will stop you being snarky to people who have no idea what/who you are on about." And I just played that link on you tube. Sorry OP, to me it was just a boring monologue about what it means to be black, not even proper rap. Had a white person got onstage and performed something similar, people would have been up in arms, not clapping and cheering. Definately NOT a legend in my eyes. | |||
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"Absolute legend. Also “Black” isn’t even the most powerful track on his album. It’s incredible. He’s only 21. Madness Never heard of him. Why is he incredible ? Awesome. Great contribution to the thread
Awsome. Amazing answer thanks.
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"Very powerful performance and clearly a talented bloke " I must admit, I don't think I was particularly aware of him either, but I totally agree with you and thought it was a great performance. | |||
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"Yet if a white guy did the same and called it white there would be uproar. Personally i think hes crap but im not into grime/hiphop." 100% this
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"Furthermore, for him (Dave) to pay respect to those serving time inside - during his speech - I thought just about said it all... Idiot" Loads of innocent people behind bars mate, I.e his brother which is why he mentioned it. And to call Dave an idiot is just name calling as he is extremely smart | |||
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"https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mXLS2IzZSdg There you go OP I have done the hard work for you, maybe it will stop you being snarky to people who have no idea what/who you are on about. And I just played that link on you tube. Sorry OP, to me it was just a boring monologue about what it means to be black, not even proper rap. Had a white person got onstage and performed something similar, people would have been up in arms, not clapping and cheering. Definately NOT a legend in my eyes. " | |||
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"Yet if a white guy did the same and called it white there would be uproar. Personally i think hes crap but im not into grime/hiphop. 100% this
I think his performance last night was quite possibly the worst in Brits history
Complete and utter talentless nonsense - why we choose to celebrate such garbage utterly baffles me..."Again whites couldn’t have as they haven’t been oppressed. Dave is talking from an oppressive POV which the black community feels they are in particular circumstances. And to say talentless is such a lie. If you watched it without judgement you’d of enjoyed it and got the message | |||
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"Maybe spend less time criticising boris, and more time criticising gang culture and the glorification of drug related crime. " Why when Boris is an outspoken racist? And he does criticise gang culture so I’m guessing you did not really listen to it | |||
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"Furthermore, for him (Dave) to pay respect to those serving time inside - during his speech - I thought just about said it all... Idiot "What about him paying respect to grenfell victims? | |||
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"Furthermore, for him (Dave) to pay respect to those serving time inside - during his speech - I thought just about said it all... Idiot Loads of innocent people behind bars mate, I.e his brother which is why he mentioned it. And to call Dave an idiot is just name calling as he is extremely smart" But his brother isnt innocent, he stabbed someone to death didnt he !! | |||
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"Why was Dave openly allowed to be racist yet if a white person sand those lyrics they would have been boo’d of the stage. People like him add to the negative racist society that some live in. Every race have those who have beliefs we don’t all agree with. He’s a singer not a politician he needs to remember that " Can you advise as to how he was racist | |||
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"Furthermore, for him (Dave) to pay respect to those serving time inside - during his speech - I thought just about said it all... Idiot
What about him paying respect to grenfell victims?"What about everyone else who died in house fires? Didn't their lives matter? | |||
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"Furthermore, for him (Dave) to pay respect to those serving time inside - during his speech - I thought just about said it all... Idiot Loads of innocent people behind bars mate, I.e his brother which is why he mentioned it. And to call Dave an idiot is just name calling as he is extremely smart But his brother isnt innocent, he stabbed someone to death didnt he !!" He did it innocently. | |||
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"Furthermore, for him (Dave) to pay respect to those serving time inside - during his speech - I thought just about said it all... Idiot Loads of innocent people behind bars mate, I.e his brother which is why he mentioned it. And to call Dave an idiot is just name calling as he is extremely smart But his brother isnt innocent, he stabbed someone to death didnt he !!" Nope. 30 people went to jail for joint enterprise and he was one of. This happened when he was a kid 16. He personally didn’t harm anyone | |||
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"Furthermore, for him (Dave) to pay respect to those serving time inside - during his speech - I thought just about said it all... Idiot
What about him paying respect to grenfell victims?
What about everyone else who died in house fires? Didn't their lives matter?". Yeah but as the government is dragging their heels On the most highlighted fire in the UK for the last 10 years he thought he’d point it out. Can’t do it all aye | |||
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"Furthermore, for him (Dave) to pay respect to those serving time inside - during his speech - I thought just about said it all... Idiot Loads of innocent people behind bars mate, I.e his brother which is why he mentioned it. And to call Dave an idiot is just name calling as he is extremely smart But his brother isnt innocent, he stabbed someone to death didnt he !! Nope. 30 people went to jail for joint enterprise and he was one of. This happened when he was a kid 16. He personally didn’t harm anyone" so not innocent then was he and he wasn't a kid at 16 young adult that should have known better | |||
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"Furthermore, for him (Dave) to pay respect to those serving time inside - during his speech - I thought just about said it all... Idiot Loads of innocent people behind bars mate, I.e his brother which is why he mentioned it. And to call Dave an idiot is just name calling as he is extremely smart But his brother isnt innocent, he stabbed someone to death didnt he !!" 2 brothers in prison. | |||
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"Furthermore, for him (Dave) to pay respect to those serving time inside - during his speech - I thought just about said it all... Idiot Loads of innocent people behind bars mate, I.e his brother which is why he mentioned it. And to call Dave an idiot is just name calling as he is extremely smart But his brother isnt innocent, he stabbed someone to death didnt he !! Nope. 30 people went to jail for joint enterprise and he was one of. This happened when he was a kid 16. He personally didn’t harm anyone" Guilty by association - he was involved in gang related criminality - thus, not innocent in my eyes | |||
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"Yet if a white guy did the same and called it white there would be uproar. Personally i think hes crap but im not into grime/hiphop. 100% this
I think his performance last night was quite possibly the worst in Brits history
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Again whites couldn’t have as they haven’t been oppressed. Dave is talking from an oppressive POV which the black community feels they are in particular circumstances. And to say talentless is such a lie. If you watched it without judgement you’d of enjoyed it and got the message""Again whites couldn’t have as they haven’t been oppressed" really?? Where do you get your facts from to back up that statement? Sections of white society have been oppressed, Jews, gypsies, Irish to name just three. Try researching before making sweeping statements. There is oppression in all colours, religions and cultures not just black ones. | |||
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"Yet if a white guy did the same and called it white there would be uproar. Personally i think hes crap but im not into grime/hiphop. 100% this
I think his performance last night was quite possibly the worst in Brits history
Complete and utter talentless nonsense - why we choose to celebrate such garbage utterly baffles me...
Again whites couldn’t have as they haven’t been oppressed. Dave is talking from an oppressive POV which the black community feels they are in particular circumstances. And to say talentless is such a lie. If you watched it without judgement you’d of enjoyed it and got the message
"Again whites couldn’t have as they haven’t been oppressed" really?? Where do you get your facts from to back up that statement? Sections of white society have been oppressed, Jews, gypsies, Irish to name just three. Try researching before making sweeping statements. There is oppression in all colours, religions and cultures not just black ones. "All the groups you named were all oppressed by other whites that’s why it can’t be racist. Your speaking of prejudice between different groups. I’d love to continue in the inbox as I I don’t want to clutter up the forum any longer | |||
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What about him paying respect to grenfell victims?
What about everyone else who died in house fires? Didn't their lives matter?.
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"Best thing about the Brits was Harry’s yellow suit...." What about his lacy white baby romper? | |||
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"Yet if a white guy did the same and called it white there would be uproar. Personally i think hes crap but im not into grime/hiphop. 100% this
I think his performance last night was quite possibly the worst in Brits history
Complete and utter talentless nonsense - why we choose to celebrate such garbage utterly baffles me...
Again whites couldn’t have as they haven’t been oppressed. Dave is talking from an oppressive POV which the black community feels they are in particular circumstances. And to say talentless is such a lie. If you watched it without judgement you’d of enjoyed it and got the message
"Again whites couldn’t have as they haven’t been oppressed" really?? Where do you get your facts from to back up that statement? Sections of white society have been oppressed, Jews, gypsies, Irish to name just three. Try researching before making sweeping statements. There is oppression in all colours, religions and cultures not just black ones.
All the groups you named were all oppressed by other whites that’s why it can’t be racist. Your speaking of prejudice between different groups. I’d love to continue in the inbox as I I don’t want to clutter up the forum any longer "There are also black on black racists too. I dont want this to continue in my inbox thanks, this is a public forum. White on black, black on white, white on white or black on black. Its all the same thing. | |||
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" "Again whites couldn’t have as they haven’t been oppressed" really?? Where do you get your facts from to back up that statement? Sections of white society have been oppressed, Jews, gypsies, Irish to name just three. Try researching before making sweeping statements. There is oppression in all colours, religions and cultures not just black ones. All the groups you named were all oppressed by other whites that’s why it can’t be racist. Your speaking of prejudice between different groups. I’d love to continue in the inbox as I I don’t want to clutter up the forum any longer " Just to give a bit of context on this. Its about feeling oppressed and defined by something about yourself. For instance when I used ti visit my sister at Uni in Belfast in the 90's it wasnt being white that had me on edge it was being Irish. It wasnt being white that caused Army patrols to stop our car and put Automatic rifles to the windows it was the Rep Of Ireland car reg.... We dont make songs about our struggles as white people but there are plenty about being Irish | |||
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"City Boy Joy
Somethings get through to some people some of the time.
Respect for keeping it civil and thought provoking x "Thank you | |||
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"City Boy Joy
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" "Again whites couldn’t have as they haven’t been oppressed" really?? Where do you get your facts from to back up that statement? Sections of white society have been oppressed, Jews, gypsies, Irish to name just three. Try researching before making sweeping statements. There is oppression in all colours, religions and cultures not just black ones. All the groups you named were all oppressed by other whites that’s why it can’t be racist. Your speaking of prejudice between different groups. I’d love to continue in the inbox as I I don’t want to clutter up the forum any longer Just to give a bit of context on this. Its about feeling oppressed and defined by something about yourself. For instance when I used ti visit my sister at Uni in Belfast in the 90's it wasnt being white that had me on edge it was being Irish. It wasnt being white that caused Army patrols to stop our car and put Automatic rifles to the windows it was the Rep Of Ireland car reg.... We dont make songs about our struggles as white people but there are plenty about being Irish" Great post | |||
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"Furthermore, for him (Dave) to pay respect to those serving time inside - during his speech - I thought just about said it all... Idiot Loads of innocent people behind bars mate, I.e his brother which is why he mentioned it. And to call Dave an idiot is just name calling as he is extremely smart But his brother isnt innocent, he stabbed someone to death didnt he !! 2 brothers in prison. " 1 for 4yrs for conspiracy to defraud 1 for life (min 18yrs) for gang murder 
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"awwwwwwww don't be sorry. You don't have that power. BUT....... I asked a legitimate question and you missed the opportunity to be decent and big him up. I did want to know. Imagine not knowing how to utilise google. If you don’t know, it’s not on me to tell you. Maybe think if you’ve nothing of any real note to bring to a discussion it might be beneficial to keep ones opinion to oneself " Why so angry, buddy?, does listening to Dave not relax you. | |||
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"awwwwwwww don't be sorry. You don't have that power. BUT....... I asked a legitimate question and you missed the opportunity to be decent and big him up. I did want to know. Imagine not knowing how to utilise google. If you don’t know, it’s not on me to tell you. Maybe think if you’ve nothing of any real note to bring to a discussion it might be beneficial to keep ones opinion to oneself Why so angry, buddy?, does listening to Dave not relax you." He’s probably frustrated it’s gets hard trying to explain things to people who generally don’t really want to listen | |||
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"awwwwwwww don't be sorry. You don't have that power. BUT....... I asked a legitimate question and you missed the opportunity to be decent and big him up. I did want to know. Imagine not knowing how to utilise google. If you don’t know, it’s not on me to tell you. Maybe think if you’ve nothing of any real note to bring to a discussion it might be beneficial to keep ones opinion to oneself Why so angry, buddy?, does listening to Dave not relax you. He’s probably frustrated it’s gets hard trying to explain things to people who generally don’t really want to listen" He could call himself Alan and write a song about it. | |||
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"I thought his performance was amazing and really thought provoking. I also thought it was a lovely touch to include a tribute to the 2 victims of the London terror attacks " What did you think about his tribute to his friends inside? | |||
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"Yet if a white guy did the same and called it white there would be uproar. Personally i think hes crap but im not into grime/hiphop. 100% this
I think his performance last night was quite possibly the worst in Brits history
Complete and utter talentless nonsense - why we choose to celebrate such garbage utterly baffles me...
Again whites couldn’t have as they haven’t been oppressed. Dave is talking from an oppressive POV which the black community feels they are in particular circumstances. And to say talentless is such a lie. If you watched it without judgement you’d of enjoyed it and got the message
"Again whites couldn’t have as they haven’t been oppressed" really?? Where do you get your facts from to back up that statement? Sections of white society have been oppressed, Jews, gypsies, Irish to name just three. Try researching before making sweeping statements. There is oppression in all colours, religions and cultures not just black ones.
All the groups you named were all oppressed by other whites that’s why it can’t be racist. Your speaking of prejudice between different groups. I’d love to continue in the inbox as I I don’t want to clutter up the forum any longer "........wait...what? Sorry but you’ve lost the plot there my love. The Einsatzgruppen and Totenkopf SS weren’t racist towards the Jews....because they’re white? You’re 100% entitled to your opinion on the matter, but this is part of the reason anti semitism were the most recorded hate incidents and crimes in 2019. | |||
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"His brother didn’t commit Murder he was 1 of 30 after a college class and was prosecuted under joint enterprise. What I mean by that is if they were to overturn the joint enterprise law he’d be released as he didn’t kill anyone " https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/apr/20/sofyen-belamouadden-three-jailed-murder | |||
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"We watched the Brits last night & for the 1st time I actually felt old. I used to love watching but think I’m past it now. Even our teenagers didn’t know half the winners. Bring back the Scissor Sisters & the big yellow bird " Do you remember Geri Hellawell in that Union Jack dress? | |||
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"Never heard of the guy and didn’t watch the brits. But he’s provoked a lot of debate here so it’s piqued my interest enough to have a listen. Love finding new artists " Id never heard of him but was very impressed | |||
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"We watched the Brits last night & for the 1st time I actually felt old. I used to love watching but think I’m past it now. Even our teenagers didn’t know half the winners. Bring back the Scissor Sisters & the big yellow bird Do you remember Geri Hellawell in that Union Jack dress? " Blatent empire propaganda | |||
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"We watched the Brits last night & for the 1st time I actually felt old. I used to love watching but think I’m past it now. Even our teenagers didn’t know half the winners. Bring back the Scissor Sisters & the big yellow bird Do you remember Geri Hellawell in that Union Jack dress? Blatent empire propaganda "Also when John Prescott had a drink thrown over him..... | |||
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"Yet if a white guy did the same and called it white there would be uproar. Personally i think hes crap but im not into grime/hiphop. 100% this
I think his performance last night was quite possibly the worst in Brits history
Complete and utter talentless nonsense - why we choose to celebrate such garbage utterly baffles me...
Again whites couldn’t have as they haven’t been oppressed. Dave is talking from an oppressive POV which the black community feels they are in particular circumstances. And to say talentless is such a lie. If you watched it without judgement you’d of enjoyed it and got the message
"Again whites couldn’t have as they haven’t been oppressed" really?? Where do you get your facts from to back up that statement? Sections of white society have been oppressed, Jews, gypsies, Irish to name just three. Try researching before making sweeping statements. There is oppression in all colours, religions and cultures not just black ones.
All the groups you named were all oppressed by other whites that’s why it can’t be racist. Your speaking of prejudice between different groups. I’d love to continue in the inbox as I I don’t want to clutter up the forum any longer "What....Ethnic and Racial groups have persecuted each other since before the first recorded war in 2700bc, few examples Ireland Nanjing Barbary slave trade Atlantic slave trade Numerous crusades and Jihads in the middle east The Mongols The Huns Slave trade in Libya Ceasars Genocide in Gaul Japanese treatment of POW's in the Pacific The Ostfront Treatment of white farmers in Zimbabwe and South Africa The recent grooming gang scandal Armenia | |||
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"Yet if a white guy did the same and called it white there would be uproar. Personally i think hes crap but im not into grime/hiphop. 100% this
I think his performance last night was quite possibly the worst in Brits history
Complete and utter talentless nonsense - why we choose to celebrate such garbage utterly baffles me...
Again whites couldn’t have as they haven’t been oppressed. Dave is talking from an oppressive POV which the black community feels they are in particular circumstances. And to say talentless is such a lie. If you watched it without judgement you’d of enjoyed it and got the message
"Again whites couldn’t have as they haven’t been oppressed" really?? Where do you get your facts from to back up that statement? Sections of white society have been oppressed, Jews, gypsies, Irish to name just three. Try researching before making sweeping statements. There is oppression in all colours, religions and cultures not just black ones.
All the groups you named were all oppressed by other whites that’s why it can’t be racist. Your speaking of prejudice between different groups. I’d love to continue in the inbox as I I don’t want to clutter up the forum any longer
What....Ethnic and Racial groups have persecuted each other since before the first recorded war in 2700bc, few examples
Ireland
Nanjing
Barbary slave trade
Atlantic slave trade
Numerous crusades and Jihads in the middle east
The Mongols
The Huns
Slave trade in Libya
Ceasars Genocide in Gaul
Japanese treatment of POW's in the Pacific
The Ostfront
Treatment of white farmers in Zimbabwe and South Africa
The recent grooming gang scandal
Armenia
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"Did you mention the Serbs?" This is probably more what he’s on about ^ He said it can’t be racist because it’s white on white, not just one group subjugating a different colour group, completely disregarding the fact that there are in fact distinct genetically diverse groups within ‘white people’. It was offensive on so many levels, not least of which is the implication that all ‘white’ people are the same
But the Yugoslav Wars, the Final Solution, the Liberian Civil Wars, Rwandan Genocides, the Celtic Genocides....all examples of racial violence perpetrated by people of the same colour. But not racist at all according to his logic. Pretty disheartened by that level of ignorance to be honest. | |||
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"Did you mention the Serbs? This is probably more what he’s on about ^ He said it can’t be racist because it’s white on white, not just one group subjugating a different colour group, completely disregarding the fact that there are in fact distinct genetically diverse groups within ‘white people’. It was offensive on so many levels, not least of which is the implication that all ‘white’ people are the same
But the Yugoslav Wars, the Final Solution, the Liberian Civil Wars, Rwandan Genocides, the Celtic Genocides....all examples of racial violence perpetrated by people of the same colour. But not racist at all according to his logic. Pretty disheartened by that level of ignorance to be honest. "But not surprising, because that's the narrative. | |||
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"Did you mention the Serbs? This is probably more what he’s on about ^ He said it can’t be racist because it’s white on white, not just one group subjugating a different colour group, completely disregarding the fact that there are in fact distinct genetically diverse groups within ‘white people’. It was offensive on so many levels, not least of which is the implication that all ‘white’ people are the same
But the Yugoslav Wars, the Final Solution, the Liberian Civil Wars, Rwandan Genocides, the Celtic Genocides....all examples of racial violence perpetrated by people of the same colour. But not racist at all according to his logic. Pretty disheartened by that level of ignorance to be honest.
But not surprising, because that's the narrative. "I wouldn’t say the narrative is ‘you can’t have racism between the same skin colour’. That’s very much the minority view in my experience, spouted by the truly pig ignorant. | |||
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"Did you mention the Serbs? This is probably more what he’s on about ^ He said it can’t be racist because it’s white on white, not just one group subjugating a different colour group, completely disregarding the fact that there are in fact distinct genetically diverse groups within ‘white people’. It was offensive on so many levels, not least of which is the implication that all ‘white’ people are the same
But the Yugoslav Wars, the Final Solution, the Liberian Civil Wars, Rwandan Genocides, the Celtic Genocides....all examples of racial violence perpetrated by people of the same colour. But not racist at all according to his logic. Pretty disheartened by that level of ignorance to be honest.
But not surprising, because that's the narrative.
I wouldn’t say the narrative is ‘you can’t have racism between the same skin colour’. That’s very much the minority view in my experience, spouted by the truly pig ignorant. "Who said you can’t have racism between people of the same skin colour? I don’t remember Dave mentioning it last night tbh | |||
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"Did you mention the Serbs? This is probably more what he’s on about ^ He said it can’t be racist because it’s white on white, not just one group subjugating a different colour group, completely disregarding the fact that there are in fact distinct genetically diverse groups within ‘white people’. It was offensive on so many levels, not least of which is the implication that all ‘white’ people are the same
But the Yugoslav Wars, the Final Solution, the Liberian Civil Wars, Rwandan Genocides, the Celtic Genocides....all examples of racial violence perpetrated by people of the same colour. But not racist at all according to his logic. Pretty disheartened by that level of ignorance to be honest.
But not surprising, because that's the narrative.
I wouldn’t say the narrative is ‘you can’t have racism between the same skin colour’. That’s very much the minority view in my experience, spouted by the truly pig ignorant.
Who said you can’t have racism between people of the same skin colour? I don’t remember Dave mentioning it last night tbh "Nobody said Dave said anything like that. Read the thread before you start jumping down people’s throats. | |||
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"Did you mention the Serbs? This is probably more what he’s on about ^ He said it can’t be racist because it’s white on white, not just one group subjugating a different colour group, completely disregarding the fact that there are in fact distinct genetically diverse groups within ‘white people’. It was offensive on so many levels, not least of which is the implication that all ‘white’ people are the same
But the Yugoslav Wars, the Final Solution, the Liberian Civil Wars, Rwandan Genocides, the Celtic Genocides....all examples of racial violence perpetrated by people of the same colour. But not racist at all according to his logic. Pretty disheartened by that level of ignorance to be honest.
But not surprising, because that's the narrative.
I wouldn’t say the narrative is ‘you can’t have racism between the same skin colour’. That’s very much the minority view in my experience, spouted by the truly pig ignorant.
Who said you can’t have racism between people of the same skin colour? I don’t remember Dave mentioning it last night tbh "'Again whites couldn’t have as they haven’t been oppressed' 'All the groups you named were all oppressed by other whites that’s why it can’t be racist. Your speaking of prejudice between different groups.' | |||
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"Talking of oppression, what about the Cornish! Homes all bought from under us by Emmett's Pasty stolen by Gregg's . Devonians trying to claim cream tea as theirs. Jam first then cream..ffs " Don't forget the Barbary pirates. You deserve reparations for the slavery. It's important to hold these memories of violence for as long as possible. maybe do a sea shanty about it on the mean streets of Padstow. | |||
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"Yet if a white guy did the same and called it white there would be uproar. Personally i think hes crap but im not into grime/hiphop." He isn’t that good really. Old school hip hop is miles better. | |||
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"Did you mention the Serbs? This is probably more what he’s on about ^ He said it can’t be racist because it’s white on white, not just one group subjugating a different colour group, completely disregarding the fact that there are in fact distinct genetically diverse groups within ‘white people’. It was offensive on so many levels, not least of which is the implication that all ‘white’ people are the same
But the Yugoslav Wars, the Final Solution, the Liberian Civil Wars, Rwandan Genocides, the Celtic Genocides....all examples of racial violence perpetrated by people of the same colour. But not racist at all according to his logic. Pretty disheartened by that level of ignorance to be honest.
But not surprising, because that's the narrative.
I wouldn’t say the narrative is ‘you can’t have racism between the same skin colour’. That’s very much the minority view in my experience, spouted by the truly pig ignorant. " | |||
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"Did you mention the Serbs? This is probably more what he’s on about ^ He said it can’t be racist because it’s white on white, not just one group subjugating a different colour group, completely disregarding the fact that there are in fact distinct genetically diverse groups within ‘white people’. It was offensive on so many levels, not least of which is the implication that all ‘white’ people are the same
But the Yugoslav Wars, the Final Solution, the Liberian Civil Wars, Rwandan Genocides, the Celtic Genocides....all examples of racial violence perpetrated by people of the same colour. But not racist at all according to his logic. Pretty disheartened by that level of ignorance to be honest.
But not surprising, because that's the narrative.
I wouldn’t say the narrative is ‘you can’t have racism between the same skin colour’. That’s very much the minority view in my experience, spouted by the truly pig ignorant.
Who said you can’t have racism between people of the same skin colour? I don’t remember Dave mentioning it last night tbh
'Again whites couldn’t have as they haven’t been oppressed'
'All the groups you named were all oppressed by other whites that’s why it can’t be racist. Your speaking of prejudice between different groups.'"Ah, so it was similar to WW2? The Germans were trying to suppress those who opposed them ? Or the Anglo Scottish wars, the English were trying to oppress the Scottish? Etc etc | |||
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"Absolute legend. Also “Black” isn’t even the most powerful track on his album. It’s incredible. He’s only 21. Madness" He’s a racist but your not allowed to say that, plus wants more rights for people in jail for some reason, clown basically | |||
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"Absolute legend. Also “Black” isn’t even the most powerful track on his album. It’s incredible. He’s only 21. Madness He’s a racist but your not allowed to say that, plus wants more rights for people in jail for some reason, clown basically " ... | |||
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"Absolute legend. Also “Black” isn’t even the most powerful track on his album. It’s incredible. He’s only 21. Madness He’s a racist but your not allowed to say that, plus wants more rights for people in jail for some reason, clown basically " Can you quote me a racist line in his song? | |||
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"Absolute legend. Also “Black” isn’t even the most powerful track on his album. It’s incredible. He’s only 21. Madness He’s a racist but your not allowed to say that, plus wants more rights for people in jail for some reason, clown basically Can you quote me a racist line in his song? " His speach was enough, not listened to his songs and don’t intend to now | |||
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"Absolute legend. Also “Black” isn’t even the most powerful track on his album. It’s incredible. He’s only 21. Madness He’s a racist but your not allowed to say that, plus wants more rights for people in jail for some reason, clown basically Can you quote me a racist line in his song? His speach was enough, not listened to his songs and don’t intend to now" Ok can you quote me a racist line from the speech? | |||
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"Absolute legend. Also “Black” isn’t even the most powerful track on his album. It’s incredible. He’s only 21. Madness He’s a racist but your not allowed to say that, plus wants more rights for people in jail for some reason, clown basically Can you quote me a racist line in his song? His speach was enough, not listened to his songs and don’t intend to now" Ok what part of his speech was racist? | |||
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"Absolute legend. Also “Black” isn’t even the most powerful track on his album. It’s incredible. He’s only 21. Madness He’s a racist but your not allowed to say that, plus wants more rights for people in jail for some reason, clown basically Can you quote me a racist line in his song? His speach was enough, not listened to his songs and don’t intend to now Ok can you quote me a racist line from the speech?" Calling Boris Jonson a racist is ridiculous, implying the queen is a racist even more so, got him lots of publicity tho as never heard of him before that | |||
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"Did you mention the Serbs? This is probably more what he’s on about ^ He said it can’t be racist because it’s white on white, not just one group subjugating a different colour group, completely disregarding the fact that there are in fact distinct genetically diverse groups within ‘white people’. It was offensive on so many levels, not least of which is the implication that all ‘white’ people are the same
But the Yugoslav Wars, the Final Solution, the Liberian Civil Wars, Rwandan Genocides, the Celtic Genocides....all examples of racial violence perpetrated by people of the same colour. But not racist at all according to his logic. Pretty disheartened by that level of ignorance to be honest.
But not surprising, because that's the narrative.
I wouldn’t say the narrative is ‘you can’t have racism between the same skin colour’. That’s very much the minority view in my experience, spouted by the truly pig ignorant.
Who said you can’t have racism between people of the same skin colour? I don’t remember Dave mentioning it last night tbh
'Again whites couldn’t have as they haven’t been oppressed'
'All the groups you named were all oppressed by other whites that’s why it can’t be racist. Your speaking of prejudice between different groups.'
Ah, so it was similar to WW2? The Germans were trying to suppress those who opposed them ? Or the Anglo Scottish wars, the English were trying to oppress the Scottish? Etc etc "The Nazi regime disliked anyone that wasn't ubermensch, thats why they did the things they did in the East as they thought Slavs were essentially non people. Japenese did something very similar to the Chinese. Every race, creed or ethnicity has done it in the past The process of de-humanising groups of people be they Black, Pink, Blue, Gay, Straight whatever is more the root cause and makes it a hell of alot easier for these atrocities to happen in the first place. One of the reasons I dont like the term Gammon,Remainer,libtard or whatever. | |||
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"Absolute legend. Also “Black” isn’t even the most powerful track on his album. It’s incredible. He’s only 21. Madness He’s a racist but your not allowed to say that, plus wants more rights for people in jail for some reason, clown basically Can you quote me a racist line in his song? His speach was enough, not listened to his songs and don’t intend to now Ok can you quote me a racist line from the speech? Calling Boris Jonson a racist is ridiculous, implying the queen is a racist even more so, got him lots of publicity tho as never heard of him before that" Boris Johnson is a racist though | |||
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"Absolute legend. Also “Black” isn’t even the most powerful track on his album. It’s incredible. He’s only 21. Madness He’s a racist but your not allowed to say that, plus wants more rights for people in jail for some reason, clown basically Can you quote me a racist line in his song? His speach was enough, not listened to his songs and don’t intend to now Ok can you quote me a racist line from the speech? Calling Boris Jonson a racist is ridiculous, implying the queen is a racist even more so, got him lots of publicity tho as never heard of him before that " Ridiculous in what way? Boris has quite a history of saying racist things. If he is not racist, then he needs to be more careful of his language. People may misunderstand him... | |||
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"Utter dial a cliche rubbish. Where's that bandwagon gotta jump on it I don't think a middle aged couple from Cornwall are his target audience ". No too true ,I much prefer Kendrick or Proof,?? | |||
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"Absolute legend. Also “Black” isn’t even the most powerful track on his album. It’s incredible. He’s only 21. Madness He’s a racist but your not allowed to say that, plus wants more rights for people in jail for some reason, clown basically Can you quote me a racist line in his song? His speach was enough, not listened to his songs and don’t intend to now Ok can you quote me a racist line from the speech? Calling Boris Jonson a racist is ridiculous, implying the queen is a racist even more so, got him lots of publicity tho as never heard of him before that" I mean.... Boris not racist? Leaving that aside you have now.said what he said is ridiculous... can you quote the part that made you call him racist... did he compare weirdly dress white people to a phonebox or maybe called them cracker red necks? | |||
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"Did you mention the Serbs? This is probably more what he’s on about ^ He said it can’t be racist because it’s white on white, not just one group subjugating a different colour group, completely disregarding the fact that there are in fact distinct genetically diverse groups within ‘white people’. It was offensive on so many levels, not least of which is the implication that all ‘white’ people are the same
But the Yugoslav Wars, the Final Solution, the Liberian Civil Wars, Rwandan Genocides, the Celtic Genocides....all examples of racial violence perpetrated by people of the same colour. But not racist at all according to his logic. Pretty disheartened by that level of ignorance to be honest.
But not surprising, because that's the narrative.
I wouldn’t say the narrative is ‘you can’t have racism between the same skin colour’. That’s very much the minority view in my experience, spouted by the truly pig ignorant.
Who said you can’t have racism between people of the same skin colour? I don’t remember Dave mentioning it last night tbh
'Again whites couldn’t have as they haven’t been oppressed'
'All the groups you named were all oppressed by other whites that’s why it can’t be racist. Your speaking of prejudice between different groups.'
Ah, so it was similar to WW2? The Germans were trying to suppress those who opposed them ? Or the Anglo Scottish wars, the English were trying to oppress the Scottish? Etc etc
The Nazi regime disliked anyone that wasn't ubermensch, thats why they did the things they did in the East as they thought Slavs were essentially non people. Japenese did something very similar to the Chinese. Every race, creed or ethnicity has done it in the past
The process of de-humanising groups of people be they Black, Pink, Blue, Gay, Straight whatever is more the root cause and makes it a hell of alot easier for these atrocities to happen in the first place. One of the reasons I dont like the term Gammon,Remainer,libtard or whatever."I agree with all of what you’ve said, but I think his implication was that because these groups are all white, then it can’t be racism. I’m saying there are genetic differences between ethnic groups within the classifications of ‘white’, ‘black’ ‘brown’ etc. Look at the differences in the Quechua and the Aymara in Peru as a small geographical example of genetic diversity. Separate races, same colour skin. He’s over simplifying his definition of ‘race’ to suit his agenda and support his argument, and thereby proving himself a racist because he’s saying ‘all white people are the same’. That’s what I take issue with. | |||
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