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Should christianity be taught in school?

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

When my parents went to school they had a lesson for it. I would say yes it is a very important subject to learn about. I am not sure why they removed I guess the world looked abit different in the 60s then to now.

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By *VineMan  over a year ago

The right place

Religious Studies teaches about a range of religions. I think it’s important to understand different people’s belief systems. It shouldn’t just be Christianity though.

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By *den-Valley-coupleCouple  over a year ago

Cumbria

Education is a must in my eyes so it allows everybody insight into other people's religion so accepting difference becomes easier.

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By *tella HeelsTV/TS  over a year ago

west here ford shire

Religion

I really don’t think any religion should be taught in education.

The religion a person chooses or is impressed on, is so diverse in our society, that enforced schooling of alternatives is wrong, myself I believe religious zealots have caused so much war and inflamed hatred throughout history.

Wether it’s Christianity, Muslim, or other religions. I don’t see anything godly in any of them...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Just Christianity or all major religions?

Because they still teach about religions

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By *hloevtTV/TS  over a year ago

norwich

Think it's correct to teach religious education so individuals can understand the what's and why's and make choices.

But to teach a specific religion no longer fits in the moden times that we live in.

Just my view.

Also when I was at school we said the lords pray twice a day. Bet youngsters don't know it now ? It's always handy to know for funerals!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

RMPS - religious and moral philosophical studies.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"RMPS - religious and moral philosophical studies. "

Or, RME. Religious and moral education.

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By *illy_the_tvTV/TS  over a year ago

hoorn, Netherlands

Religious education/studies is still a class as far as I'm aware, it was a compulsory GCSE at my school. Children should be taught about religion so that they can learn and understand others beliefs, however it shouldn't ever just be christianity taught. Religion has no place in school apart from as a educational lesson

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Think it's correct to teach religious education so individuals can understand the what's and why's and make choices.

But to teach a specific religion no longer fits in the moden times that we live in.

Just my view.

Also when I was at school we said the lords pray twice a day. Bet youngsters don't know it now ? It's always handy to know for funerals!! "

Handy to know for funerals

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"RMPS - religious and moral philosophical studies.

Or, RME. Religious and moral education. "

And you should learn about them. Not ‘this is what you should do’ it should be ‘this is what they do’.

So you are taught, not preached at.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Religious Studies teaches about a range of religions. I think it’s important to understand different people’s belief systems. It shouldn’t just be Christianity though. "
Yes to learn about all the religions, it is important to know about it.

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By *illy_the_tvTV/TS  over a year ago

hoorn, Netherlands


"Think it's correct to teach religious education so individuals can understand the what's and why's and make choices.

But to teach a specific religion no longer fits in the moden times that we live in.

Just my view.

Also when I was at school we said the lords pray twice a day. Bet youngsters don't know it now ? It's always handy to know for funerals!! "

.I went to a C of E school and we had to do the lords prayer every assembly, also had mandatory trips to st albans abbey every term, done 2 lessons in the morning then had to spend the rest of the day at the abbey for a long, full service and as an atheist it was pretty painful to have to sit through

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Just Christianity or all major religions?

Because they still teach about religions "

Yes all the religions, what are the classes called these days if they are doing it?

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By *wisted999Man  over a year ago

North Bucks

I think RE is a great subject to be taught. Give people knowledge and respect of other cultures.

Your parents could opt you out of certain religious studies in my Country if you felt that strongly about it. But the teachers took a very dim view and treated you different.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just Christianity or all major religions?

Because they still teach about religions Yes all the religions, what are the classes called these days if they are doing it? "

Read above ^

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I dont think it should be taught in school to non religious people. There should be a choice. I have zero interest in anyone's religion. Theres nothing educational about made up stories and beliefs.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Just Christianity or all major religions?

Because they still teach about religions Yes all the religions, what are the classes called these days if they are doing it?

Read above ^"

Yes I saw there rmps it is. I cant remember we had it here in england when I went here when I was 15 years old, could it depend on what school you go too?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just Christianity or all major religions?

Because they still teach about religions Yes all the religions, what are the classes called these days if they are doing it?

Read above ^Yes I saw there rmps it is. I cant remember we had it here in england when I went here when I was 15 years old, could it depend on what school you go too?"

At primary school it was R.E

Compulsory at high school was RME, and then when you picked your own subjects you could choose to do RMPS

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By *naswingdressWoman  over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"I dont think it should be taught in school to non religious people. There should be a choice. I have zero interest in anyone's religion. Theres nothing educational about made up stories and beliefs."

Cultural literacy and understanding those around you. (I'm not religious)

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The U.K. is a known Christian country. So we should not be afraid to support the publicly stated religion, it’s associated values etc. Schools should be able to teach the religion of their choice. However they should equally teach the facts of the worlds main religions. This will allow the acceptance and understanding of a person to choose their faith hold their faith while respecting another’s choice.

In my education we were taught the links of the Muslim, Jewish and Christian faiths their links showing that we are all linked in our faith like a family of human kind. And further taught through the example of different Christian churches that Protestant, Baptist, and Catholic, etc are merely different ways to celebrate and follow your faith in the way that best suits you.

Equally to hold no particular faith is also acceptable with the rise in the Humanist approach to life being a new way forward.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I was suspended from school in the 70’s for suggesting Satanism be included in RE as that was what I studied at the time.

Both my children went through a Goth period in the 90’s and both were bullied at school for their stance against the teaching of ONLY Christianity.

Glad my grandkids are being taught more diversity

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"I think RE is a great subject to be taught. Give people knowledge and respect of other cultures.

Your parents could opt you out of certain religious studies in my Country if you felt that strongly about it. But the teachers took a very dim view and treated you different. "

I'd wager the teachers didn't give a shit. They probably had to organise someone to take care of the non participator or find them extra work. Teachers don't really mind what religion you are.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

I'm the oldest on this thread and I cannot recall a time when ONLY Christianity was taught in school.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm the oldest on this thread and I cannot recall a time when ONLY Christianity was taught in school. "

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By *wisted999Man  over a year ago

North Bucks


"I think RE is a great subject to be taught. Give people knowledge and respect of other cultures.

Your parents could opt you out of certain religious studies in my Country if you felt that strongly about it. But the teachers took a very dim view and treated you different.

I'd wager the teachers didn't give a shit. They probably had to organise someone to take care of the non participator or find them extra work. Teachers don't really mind what religion you are. "

They really did where I’m from.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Just Christianity or all major religions?

Because they still teach about religions Yes all the religions, what are the classes called these days if they are doing it?

Read above ^Yes I saw there rmps it is. I cant remember we had it here in england when I went here when I was 15 years old, could it depend on what school you go too?

At primary school it was R.E

Compulsory at high school was RME, and then when you picked your own subjects you could choose to do RMPS"

I see yes. I wonder how they devide it up and what religions get taught more than others or if they keep it equal?

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By *ilverfox2936Man  over a year ago

Prescot

Yes, along with all other religions and also atheism.

Then they can choose which belief or non-belief system they feel suits them.

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By *otlovefun42Couple  over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"Religion

I really don’t think any religion should be taught in education.

The religion a person chooses or is impressed on, is so diverse in our society, that enforced schooling of alternatives is wrong, myself I believe religious zealots have caused so much war and inflamed hatred throughout history.

Wether it’s Christianity, Muslim, or other religions. I don’t see anything godly in any of them..."

God was invented by men so they could control other men and women.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"I think RE is a great subject to be taught. Give people knowledge and respect of other cultures.

Your parents could opt you out of certain religious studies in my Country if you felt that strongly about it. But the teachers took a very dim view and treated you different.

I'd wager the teachers didn't give a shit. They probably had to organise someone to take care of the non participator or find them extra work. Teachers don't really mind what religion you are.

They really did where I’m from. "

Vatican City ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

I think that the religion that should be taught the most should depend in what country they are in so in the west christianity should be abit more.

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By *naswingdressWoman  over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"I think that the religion that should be taught the most should depend in what country they are in so in the west christianity should be abit more."

I think they should be taught equally, straight down the middle.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"Just Christianity or all major religions?

Because they still teach about religions Yes all the religions, what are the classes called these days if they are doing it?

Read above ^Yes I saw there rmps it is. I cant remember we had it here in england when I went here when I was 15 years old, could it depend on what school you go too?

At primary school it was R.E

Compulsory at high school was RME, and then when you picked your own subjects you could choose to do RMPSI see yes. I wonder how they devide it up and what religions get taught more than others or if they keep it equal?"

Shag, If you really want facts about this country and its institutions - why not read about them E.G. for education you could look at the National Curriculum and see what is taught.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"I think that the religion that should be taught the most should depend in what country they are in so in the west christianity should be abit more."

Why? No one is religious ffs... Just cos we live in the West doesn't mean we believe.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Yes, in the same way that you study historical periods.

Studying Christianity or Hinduism helps you understand that group's reasoning; it doesn't mean you'll become a Christian or Hindu.

In the same way that studying fascism in the 1930s doesn't mean you'll become a Nazi.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

We had RE (Religious Ed) and it covered a multitude of religions that was from 2001 to 2006 for me I’m not sure what it’s like nowadays, the deckers have white boards now

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Churches are empty unless someone dies or someone wants a sparkly wedding or saving from Satan ....

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By *naswingdressWoman  over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Yes, in the same way that you study historical periods.

Studying Christianity or Hinduism helps you understand that group's reasoning; it doesn't mean you'll become a Christian or Hindu.

In the same way that studying fascism in the 1930s doesn't mean you'll become a Nazi. "

There are five pillars of Islam. Fact. Etc

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By *ntrepid ExplorersCouple  over a year ago

Birmingham

Children should be taught *about* religion, but not that it's true. Indeed it's a fantastic subject matter to discuss critical thinking and analysis around.

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By *ntrepid ExplorersCouple  over a year ago

Birmingham


"I think that the religion that should be taught the most should depend in what country they are in so in the west christianity should be abit more.

Why? No one is religious ffs... Just cos we live in the West doesn't mean we believe."

Well I think a bias towards it by volume probably makes sense, as in still does intrude into everyday life more often. I do think it's a bit strange how little I do know about the different forms of Christianity given I do have friends who believe vehemently.

And to that end people ARE religious. LOADS of them. I was amazed how many people in my adult social circles are, and how nice, open minded and intelligent they are.

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By *incsladyandscotsmanCouple  over a year ago

North fife

I think all religions should be taught equally and factually..

My children are at a c of e primary school as pretty much all the local ones are, and the other day I was having a bit of a stress and my daughter told me 'don't worry mummy, God will fix it'

I mean.. teach them about religion and principles but don't put ridiculous notions in there head like that, I don't want them going through life thinking that some higher being is going to fix everything for them.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Religious Studies is one of the subjects recommended by the Law Society as it encourages critical thinking, evidential study and the building of, and justification of, balanced objective argument.

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By *aastyKnixWoman  over a year ago

Liverpool

I've often wondered, if no child was taught religion of any description at all but we were all told the stories at,say age 18. How many of us would be believers?

I can certainly understand why some would want religion taught to children. Get 'em while they're young (and gullible??).

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"I think all religions should be taught equally and factually..

My children are at a c of e primary school as pretty much all the local ones are, and the other day I was having a bit of a stress and my daughter told me 'don't worry mummy, God will fix it'

I mean.. teach them about religion and principles but don't put ridiculous notions in there head like that, I don't want them going through life thinking that some higher being is going to fix everything for them. "

So why do they go to a Church school ?

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By *illy_the_tvTV/TS  over a year ago

hoorn, Netherlands


"I think all religions should be taught equally and factually..

My children are at a c of e primary school as pretty much all the local ones are, and the other day I was having a bit of a stress and my daughter told me 'don't worry mummy, God will fix it'

I mean.. teach them about religion and principles but don't put ridiculous notions in there head like that, I don't want them going through life thinking that some higher being is going to fix everything for them.

So why do they go to a Church school ?"

As I said earlier, I'm an atheist and went to a C of E secondary school. My sisters were already there but we went because it was a good school, not because of any religious elements

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"I think that the religion that should be taught the most should depend in what country they are in so in the west christianity should be abit more.

Why? No one is religious ffs... Just cos we live in the West doesn't mean we believe.

Well I think a bias towards it by volume probably makes sense, as in still does intrude into everyday life more often. I do think it's a bit strange how little I do know about the different forms of Christianity given I do have friends who believe vehemently.

And to that end people ARE religious. LOADS of them. I was amazed how many people in my adult social circles are, and how nice, open minded and intelligent they are."

I accept that there are LOADS of believers but they are still in the minority.

Stats can be misleading because those that don't think and don't practise will say they believe when asked.

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By *anTouchThisCouple  over a year ago

Aberdeen

It doesn’t warrant its own class, it should be lumped in with the rest of social studies where it can be taught in context and not as an isolated highly significant thing in its own right.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

like it or not we are a christian country first and formost, of course christianity should be taught in schools, if you then choose a different religion then go for it, said as a non believer of any religion

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"I've often wondered, if no child was taught religion of any description at all but we were all told the stories at,say age 18. How many of us would be believers?

I can certainly understand why some would want religion taught to children. Get 'em while they're young (and gullible??)."

I'd guess ( though i've no proof ) that parents play a larger part than schools in determining what their children believe.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"When my parents went to school they had a lesson for it. I would say yes it is a very important subject to learn about. I am not sure why they removed I guess the world looked abit different in the 60s then to now."

All schools have to teach religious studies is compulsory from the law back in 1944. All students that start high school( dunno about primary) do religious studies learning about the religions until year 9 where you take the gcse exam and choose your options.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I've often wondered, if no child was taught religion of any description at all but we were all told the stories at,say age 18. How many of us would be believers?

I can certainly understand why some would want religion taught to children. Get 'em while they're young (and gullible??).

I'd guess ( though i've no proof ) that parents play a larger part than schools in determining what their children believe. "

Just wait till they go to prison

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"I've often wondered, if no child was taught religion of any description at all but we were all told the stories at,say age 18. How many of us would be believers?

I can certainly understand why some would want religion taught to children. Get 'em while they're young (and gullible??).

I'd guess ( though i've no proof ) that parents play a larger part than schools in determining what their children believe.

Just wait till they go to prison "

Just pray with their backs against the wall then.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Yes it should be, or I’d be out of a job!

RE is compulsory. Schools can write their own curriculum pre-GCSE, but most follow the local SACRE guidance. Generally it’s about 70% Christianity and 30% other belief systems, including humanism and atheism.

The focus is on learning ‘about’ religion (beliefs, practices, sacred texts, festivals etc) and learning ‘from’ religions (forgiveness, respect, tolerance, charity).

As the kids get older we look at different issues from different religious and non-religious perspectives; human rights, poverty and wealth, war, euthanasia, abortion, life after death.

I don’t preach in favour of any religion and have a ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ policy about my own beliefs (which drives my pupils nuts!). For me RE is almost a social science. It’s a way of understanding people and what drives them.

We live in an unusually secular country, by far the majority of the world have a faith.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Yes, in the same way that you study historical periods.

Studying Christianity or Hinduism helps you understand that group's reasoning; it doesn't mean you'll become a Christian or Hindu.

In the same way that studying fascism in the 1930s doesn't mean you'll become a Nazi. "

That is right

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Religious, spiritual and philosophical traditions should be part of educational curriculum but taught as a way of increasing critical reflection through comparative studies and exploration of practices. It is a fascinating area of study. Religion should not be taught as dogma, as was done in my childhood education.

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By *incsladyandscotsmanCouple  over a year ago

North fife


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So why do they go to a Church school ?"

Did you read my post? As stated, living in a small village surrounded by other small villages pretty much all are C of E schools linked to the village church.. without travelling over 30 minutes each way to school that was my only choice.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Ban all religions and instead teach people to be kind to each other.

Learn that there is only one life and to make the best of it.

Shooting people or blowing them up for supporting a different God is just mental.

If the wealth that religious organisation held was shared out, it could eradicate a lot of problems poverty brings.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I've often wondered, if no child was taught religion of any description at all but we were all told the stories at,say age 18. How many of us would be believers?

I can certainly understand why some would want religion taught to children. Get 'em while they're young (and gullible??)."

Unless people have actually been exposed to some preaching, can they really make such judgments?

Yeah, I was dragged to sunday school in a chapel. Was I brain washed? No. I was taught about kindness, respect and being considerate of those less fortunate. Of course there was a religious undertone, but not to the extent many would have the panic stricken masses believe.

Do I practice or believe now no?

It is conversely, rather interesting to see those who preach respect and diversity for everyones feelings on here, on a daily basis, jump to ridicule and scoff at anyone who has some form of belief.

As said above, it's an education on a broad subject, not an attempt to brainwash.

Many of us are happy to be educated by social media, where anyone can make up anything and claim it to be a fact. I'm pretty happy that the education system can deliver in an objective manner to those willing to learn and further themselves.

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By *lanemikeMan  over a year ago

Bolton

OP. One word answer.......""YES"" !!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"When my parents went to school they had a lesson for it. I would say yes it is a very important subject to learn about. I am not sure why they removed I guess the world looked abit different in the 60s then to now.

All schools have to teach religious studies is compulsory from the law back in 1944. All students that start high school( dunno about primary) do religious studies learning about the religions until year 9 where you take the gcse exam and choose your options. "

It’s compulsory from reception to year 13, but gets wrapped up into PSHE as they get older and most schools break the law. Many claim ‘assembly’ as religious worship to claim that as part of the two hours per week.

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By *incsladyandscotsmanCouple  over a year ago

North fife


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As I said earlier, I'm an atheist and went to a C of E secondary school. My sisters were already there but we went because it was a good school, not because of any religious elements"

This.. I went to one close to my children's for that reason, it was a good school.. and to be honest other than the Nativity and school assemblies religion wasn't focused on that heavily as it is at this one. However I just try to help them understand that it is based on a book, similar to their favourites.. and it's up to them whether they decide to believe.

I did draw the line when my 4 year old asked how we got on the planet, and my daughter replied god put us here.. he has a swift lesson on evolution

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


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So why do they go to a Church school ?

Did you read my post? As stated, living in a small village surrounded by other small villages pretty much all are C of E schools linked to the village church.. without travelling over 30 minutes each way to school that was my only choice. "

Yes I did read your post. That's why I asked the question.

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By *VineMan  over a year ago

The right place

Most people in the world today (and throughout human history) have some religious beliefs. If you want to understand history and cultural differences you need to include an understanding of religion. Although popular now in this country it’s important to remember that Atheism is a minority view point.

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

I don't think any religion should be taught in school.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"OP. One word answer.......""YES"" !!!"

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By *incsladyandscotsmanCouple  over a year ago

North fife


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Yes I did read your post. That's why I asked the question. "

Sorry I'm a little confused, my original comment stayed why they went there.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"I've often wondered, if no child was taught religion of any description at all but we were all told the stories at,say age 18. How many of us would be believers?

I can certainly understand why some would want religion taught to children. Get 'em while they're young (and gullible??).

Unless people have actually been exposed to some preaching, can they really make such judgments?

Yeah, I was dragged to sunday school in a chapel. Was I brain washed? No. I was taught about kindness, respect and being considerate of those less fortunate. Of course there was a religious undertone, but not to the extent many would have the panic stricken masses believe.

Do I practice or believe now no?

It is conversely, rather interesting to see those who preach respect and diversity for everyones feelings on here, on a daily basis, jump to ridicule and scoff at anyone who has some form of belief.

As said above, it's an education on a broad subject, not an attempt to brainwash.

Many of us are happy to be educated by social media, where anyone can make up anything and claim it to be a fact. I'm pretty happy that the education system can deliver in an objective manner to those willing to learn and further themselves. "

I'd agree with all of that except I haven't seen anyone scoffing at anyone's beliefs.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


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As I said earlier, I'm an atheist and went to a C of E secondary school. My sisters were already there but we went because it was a good school, not because of any religious elements

This.. I went to one close to my children's for that reason, it was a good school.. and to be honest other than the Nativity and school assemblies religion wasn't focused on that heavily as it is at this one. However I just try to help them understand that it is based on a book, similar to their favourites.. and it's up to them whether they decide to believe.

I did draw the line when my 4 year old asked how we got on the planet, and my daughter replied god put us here.. he has a swift lesson on evolution "

I can always tell which kids attended the Saints schools, they have much more background knowledge of Christian parables, commandments and biblical stories than kids from non-faith schools so have an instant head start at high school.

We teach evolution as well as creationism in RE, but I do love a creation story comic strip lesson ??

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Most people in the world today (and throughout human history) have some religious beliefs. If you want to understand history and cultural differences you need to include an understanding of religion. Although popular now in this country it’s important to remember that Atheism is a minority view point. "

^this

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By *incsladyandscotsmanCouple  over a year ago

North fife


"

I can always tell which kids attended the Saints schools, they have much more background knowledge of Christian parables, commandments and biblical stories than kids from non-faith schools so have an instant head start at high school.

We teach evolution as well as creationism in RE, but I do love a creation story comic strip lesson ??"

The thing I like about the faith schools is that their core values are usually based upon kindness, honesty, helping others and such and really get the kids involved with this.. that I can get on board with.

I can imagine the comic strip can be quite hilarious, kids minds are great!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I think it should be down to parents choice until 12 and from then on the child's choice.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"I don't think any religion should be taught in school. "

Why not ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Might as well have a Marvel and DC comics lesson in school too. Just as much truth behind their stories

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Education in all religions is good, I just dont want Christianity forced on my children.

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By *emorefridaCouple  over a year ago

La la land

Christianity only no, religion and diversity yes. If parents want their children to have a Christian education that is what Sunday school is for in my opinion.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"Most people in the world today (and throughout human history) have some religious beliefs. If you want to understand history and cultural differences you need to include an understanding of religion. Although popular now in this country it’s important to remember that Atheism is a minority view point. "

Atheism comes second behind Christianity with approx 26% of the population being non believers. Other religions don't come close. Christianity is under 60%. And though stats don't tell the whole truth clearly non believers are far from a minority.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

What about religions like scientology ?

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By *partharmonyCouple  over a year ago

Ruislip

I (Luke) think that children should learn about religions, what they teach and their influence on the world. I think they should not be taught that any given religion is true, just be presented with the information.

They should also be taught critical thinking so they are equipped to assess the reliability of any claim (not just religious) and identify fallacies.

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By *ervent_fervourMan  over a year ago

Halifax

I think all religions (broadly speaking) should be explored.

I also think agnosticism and atheism should be too. Yin, yang, etc.

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex


"I don't think any religion should be taught in school.

Why not ?"

Maybe I should have said I don't think religion should be taught as a stand alone subject. Include it in history and geography and explain how it's shaped the world and it's peoples in the context of other lessons.

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By *ty31Man  over a year ago

NW London

Yes. I think kids should be taught a little about all the main religions, understanding people's belief and values systems is important in that it could help to reduce racial tensions (Islamophobia and Anti-Semitism for example).

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By *ryingitout19Man  over a year ago

Wales

I think there should be a broad teaching of religion in general so children have a basic understanding of it, without any one religion taking priority. Just as importantly though I think politics should be taught also. Again not every single detail but a basic understanding of how it voting works, how parliament works, a broad background to the main parties etc. If kids grow up with a decent grasp of religion and politics we’re helping them be more informed

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The Christian values are important to teach all people! The world would be a nicer place if everyone had them! However teaching the unfactual basis that Christianity is the foundation of life and not science (Big Bang) is something I disagree with

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"The Christian values are important to teach all people! The world would be a nicer place if everyone had them! However teaching the unfactual basis that Christianity is the foundation of life and not science (Big Bang) is something I disagree with "

I do NOT need to be taught Christianity to not covet your ox.

No one even likes your ox.

It's an ugly ox.

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By *naswingdressWoman  over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"The Christian values are important to teach all people! The world would be a nicer place if everyone had them! However teaching the unfactual basis that Christianity is the foundation of life and not science (Big Bang) is something I disagree with

I do NOT need to be taught Christianity to not covet your ox.

No one even likes your ox.

It's an ugly ox. "

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"I don't think any religion should be taught in school.

Why not ?

Maybe I should have said I don't think religion should be taught as a stand alone subject. Include it in history and geography and explain how it's shaped the world and it's peoples in the context of other lessons. "

Okies... I don't think any schools should be church schools but as religion has played a huge role in the shaping of humanity I do think that theology should have a place on the curriculum.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I think religion should be taught not solely Christianity but touch on all bases as this cuts down on bigots and xenophobes.

Kids should be taught everyone is different and there a 7 billion versions of normal, not just their way of thinking but John, Matthew and Peter are all of equal importance to the Prophet Muhammad, Krishna or Buddha.

There is no right religion to follow but there’s also no wrong one. It’s also not wrong to follow none if that’s what you feel.

Sorry for my rant

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The Christian values are important to teach all people! The world would be a nicer place if everyone had them! However teaching the unfactual basis that Christianity is the foundation of life and not science (Big Bang) is something I disagree with

I do NOT need to be taught Christianity to not covet your ox.

No one even likes your ox.

It's an ugly ox. "

I totally agree haha! You don’t need to be taught Christianity to be a good person! I’m saying it’s good to teach kids some basic morals, wether it’s through Christianity or however else

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By *lanemikeMan  over a year ago

Bolton


"I think there should be a broad teaching of religion in general so children have a basic understanding of it, without any one religion taking priority. Just as importantly though I think politics should be taught also. Again not every single detail but a basic understanding of how it voting works, how parliament works, a broad background to the main parties etc. If kids grow up with a decent grasp of religion and politics we’re helping them be more informed "

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"The Christian values are important to teach all people! The world would be a nicer place if everyone had them! However teaching the unfactual basis that Christianity is the foundation of life and not science (Big Bang) is something I disagree with

I do NOT need to be taught Christianity to not covet your ox.

No one even likes your ox.

It's an ugly ox.

I totally agree haha! You don’t need to be taught Christianity to be a good person! I’m saying it’s good to teach kids some basic morals, wether it’s through Christianity or however else"

I'm not religious but its easy to overlook that our mores , norms, morals are formed by religious teachings.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The Christian values are important to teach all people! The world would be a nicer place if everyone had them! However teaching the unfactual basis that Christianity is the foundation of life and not science (Big Bang) is something I disagree with "

Christian values are not the only positive moral code to live by though.

I would say that it should be the Parents responsibility but not everone is fortunate enough not to be raised by asshats...

Every school should have a code od behaviour that the kids sign up to to shape values.

Religeon shiuld be thought as part of history.... the formation of the major religeons outline their beliefs and move on

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"I think religion should be taught not solely Christianity but touch on all bases as this cuts down on bigots and xenophobes.

Kids should be taught everyone is different and there a 7 billion versions of normal, not just their way of thinking but John, Matthew and Peter are all of equal importance to the Prophet Muhammad, Krishna or Buddha.

There is no right religion to follow but there’s also no wrong one. It’s also not wrong to follow none if that’s what you feel.

Sorry for my rant"

And it's not wrong to follow a religion either..... so you all go ahead if you like.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I think there should be a broad teaching of religion in general so children have a basic understanding of it, without any one religion taking priority. Just as importantly though I think politics should be taught also. Again not every single detail but a basic understanding of how it voting works, how parliament works, a broad background to the main parties etc. If kids grow up with a decent grasp of religion and politics we’re helping them be more informed "

This

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I think religion should be taught not solely Christianity but touch on all bases as this cuts down on bigots and xenophobes.

Kids should be taught everyone is different and there a 7 billion versions of normal, not just their way of thinking but John, Matthew and Peter are all of equal importance to the Prophet Muhammad, Krishna or Buddha.

There is no right religion to follow but there’s also no wrong one. It’s also not wrong to follow none if that’s what you feel.

Sorry for my rant

And it's not wrong to follow a religion either..... so you all go ahead if you like. "

That’s exactly what I was saying but the more information someone has to make an informed decision is better than blindly believing one religion is good all others are bad.

Christianity states we should love our neighbour: nothing in there states is they are also Christian the base of all religions is be kind and don’t hurt people.

Some people get what the media says twisted and think other religions are evil.

But by all means you are free to believe in God, Allah, Buddha, Jehovah, Odin, Zeus or any other god out there if it helps you be a better person.

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By *ervent_fervourMan  over a year ago

Halifax


"I think religion should be taught not solely Christianity but touch on all bases as this cuts down on bigots and xenophobes.

Kids should be taught everyone is different and there a 7 billion versions of normal, not just their way of thinking but John, Matthew and Peter are all of equal importance to the Prophet Muhammad, Krishna or Buddha.

There is no right religion to follow but there’s also no wrong one. It’s also not wrong to follow none if that’s what you feel.

Sorry for my rant

And it's not wrong to follow a religion either..... so you all go ahead if you like.

That’s exactly what I was saying but the more information someone has to make an informed decision is better than blindly believing one religion is good all others are bad.

Christianity states we should love our neighbour: nothing in there states is they are also Christian the base of all religions is be kind and don’t hurt people.

Some people get what the media says twisted and think other religions are evil.

But by all means you are free to believe in God, Allah, Buddha, Jehovah, Odin, Zeus or any other god out there if it helps you be a better person."

The thing is though, how can you decide to adopt a certain religion based on information? Surely it's more to do with 'feeling'? Which is kind of one interpretation of Faith I reckon.

And therefore that exludes intellectual, and, obviously, rational deliberation.

I suppose another word for faith could be love. But that involves humans, and is more complex, an d(for me) more rewarding.

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By *abs..Woman  over a year ago

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Religion should be taught to educate. If we want to promote tolerance and acceptance of others beliefs it has to start somewhere.

Having said that, I think that more time should be spent on PSHE with particular emphasis on finances.

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman  over a year ago

all loved up

I don't think religious education should be taught in schools. Its up to the parents. X

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By *ensualtouch15Man  over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"When my parents went to school they had a lesson for it. I would say yes it is a very important subject to learn about. I am not sure why they removed I guess the world looked abit different in the 60s then to now."

I think children should absolutely be objectively taught about as many religions and philosophies as practicable

Should any bronze age doctrine be taught as a life path to follow

Absolutely not!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I don't think religious education should be taught in schools. Its up to the parents. X "

I disagree. Same as I think that sex Ed and diversity should be taught in schools. Some parents will push their own views and ideals on their children therefore making the child unable to make informed decisions.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Any religion in a general school should be a choice not preached, if it’s a religious school then it should be in the calculus

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By *naswingdressWoman  over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I think schools should provide safety nets for children. So while, ideally, sex education, values, civics and religion would be taught by parents as part of preparing young adults for the world... This doesn't always happen. So the state should step in and make sure that there's a minimal foundation for every child.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I don’t mind if religion is taught in schools as long as Muslim run schools also teach about other religions

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex


"I don't think any religion should be taught in school.

Why not ?

Maybe I should have said I don't think religion should be taught as a stand alone subject. Include it in history and geography and explain how it's shaped the world and it's peoples in the context of other lessons.

Okies... I don't think any schools should be church schools but as religion has played a huge role in the shaping of humanity I do think that theology should have a place on the curriculum. "

My opinion is that there might be a greater understanding of how religious differences have influenced the world if they were taught in conjunction with history and geography. As a subject on its own I don't think it's as useful or even necessary

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex


"I don't think religious education should be taught in schools. Its up to the parents. X

I disagree. Same as I think that sex Ed and diversity should be taught in schools. Some parents will push their own views and ideals on their children therefore making the child unable to make informed decisions. "

I struggle with this. Is any child able to make an informed decision? Why is the state better equipped to inform my children on sex and religion than me?

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By *emorefridaCouple  over a year ago

La la land


"I don't think religious education should be taught in schools. Its up to the parents. X

I disagree. Same as I think that sex Ed and diversity should be taught in schools. Some parents will push their own views and ideals on their children therefore making the child unable to make informed decisions.

I struggle with this. Is any child able to make an informed decision? Why is the state better equipped to inform my children on sex and religion than me? "

Because there are some parents who will say that being gay is wrong or that others of another religion are crackers. At least if it's in school and part of a curriculum, it would be taught without bias.

I wasn't taught anything about bisexuality by either school or my parents in the age before the internet. Some basic facts would have made my teenage years a lot less confusing.

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By *naswingdressWoman  over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"I don't think religious education should be taught in schools. Its up to the parents. X

I disagree. Same as I think that sex Ed and diversity should be taught in schools. Some parents will push their own views and ideals on their children therefore making the child unable to make informed decisions.

I struggle with this. Is any child able to make an informed decision? Why is the state better equipped to inform my children on sex and religion than me?

Because there are some parents who will say that being gay is wrong or that others of another religion are crackers. At least if it's in school and part of a curriculum, it would be taught without bias.

I wasn't taught anything about bisexuality by either school or my parents in the age before the internet. Some basic facts would have made my teenage years a lot less confusing. "

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By *naswingdressWoman  over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Anyone here might give their hypothetical children a good sense of sex and sexuality, but some parents apparently still do tell their children that children are a product of marriage and not educate them on anything sexual until just before said children get married, if before.

While I respect the right of any parent to believe that sex is a covenant of marriage for the production of children, and to teach their children that... I also want their children to be prepared in case they're led away from their parents' beliefs. This is the biological cause of pregnancy, this is how you protect yourself, hey STIs exist, here's where you can go for help. Bodily autonomy and consent.

"These things are important to know to understand your body, Junior, although in our belief system we don't engage in them before or outside of marriage."

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It should be taught as part of a basic philosophy course along with other religions and other belief systems.

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By *m3232Man  over a year ago

maidenhead

No religion should be taught.

Take a look at it people having imaginary friends that have super powers I think I would rather watch a marvels moving

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

All religions should be discussed ... in a philosophical way. Not ‘taught’

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman  over a year ago

On a mooch

Yes it should. My lad had been taught religious education since Reception and it is continuing into secondary school

I’m christened, because that’s what you did back then, but apart from funerals and weddings I’ve never been to church. I decided not to christen my lad, but let him make his own mind up at a later date

He’s taught about all religions. In primary school, as it was so multi cultural, they all joined in celebrating the other religions special days, along with understanding what and why they are celebrating.

Likewise sexual education is taught from an earlier age, at age acceptable levels, he’s full aware of an individual’s differences through the full spectrum and that it’s their choice and makes them no different.

It’s about teaching acceptance of each other, another’s belief and culture.

Because of this and our own chats at home, I know he’s comfortable in any social situation no matter the person’s belief or culture.

If we want to get rid of prejudiced hatred, racism etc then the right thing to do is teach acceptance from a young age.

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By *ensualtouch15Man  over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"All religions should be discussed ... in a philosophical way. Not ‘taught’"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm the oldest on this thread and I cannot recall a time when ONLY Christianity was taught in school. "

I can,

Jay

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex


"I don't think religious education should be taught in schools. Its up to the parents. X

I disagree. Same as I think that sex Ed and diversity should be taught in schools. Some parents will push their own views and ideals on their children therefore making the child unable to make informed decisions.

I struggle with this. Is any child able to make an informed decision? Why is the state better equipped to inform my children on sex and religion than me?

Because there are some parents who will say that being gay is wrong or that others of another religion are crackers. At least if it's in school and part of a curriculum, it would be taught without bias.

I wasn't taught anything about bisexuality by either school or my parents in the age before the internet. Some basic facts would have made my teenage years a lot less confusing. "

Is it only the views that we agree with that should be endorsed and taught by the state? Or is it ok for views that we're very opposed to to be taight, if the state says it's part of the curriculum?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"like it or not we are a christian country first and formost, of course christianity should be taught in schools, if you then choose a different religion then go for it, said as a non believer of any religion"
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We are more of a secular country than a Christian one.

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman  over a year ago

On a mooch


"Is it only the views that we agree with that should be endorsed and taught by the state? Or is it ok for views that we're very opposed to to be taight, if the state says it's part of the curriculum?"

If we only want them taught what ‘we’ agree with, then you might as well cancel the lesson altogether, along with any chance of the next generation being more accepting of each other. As they are only being taught one view of the world, which is some cases is full of hatred and prejudice.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm the oldest on this thread and I cannot recall a time when ONLY Christianity was taught in school.

I can,

Jay"

Im sure i only learnt about white Jesus and God...not sure anyone else got a look in.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"like it or not we are a christian country first and formost, of course christianity should be taught in schools, if you then choose a different religion then go for it, said as a non believer of any religion,

We are more of a secular country than a Christian one."

Funny you said first the first religion in Britain was paganism #horriblehistories

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By *emorefridaCouple  over a year ago

La la land


"I don't think religious education should be taught in schools. Its up to the parents. X

I disagree. Same as I think that sex Ed and diversity should be taught in schools. Some parents will push their own views and ideals on their children therefore making the child unable to make informed decisions.

I struggle with this. Is any child able to make an informed decision? Why is the state better equipped to inform my children on sex and religion than me?

Because there are some parents who will say that being gay is wrong or that others of another religion are crackers. At least if it's in school and part of a curriculum, it would be taught without bias.

I wasn't taught anything about bisexuality by either school or my parents in the age before the internet. Some basic facts would have made my teenage years a lot less confusing.

Is it only the views that we agree with that should be endorsed and taught by the state? Or is it ok for views that we're very opposed to to be taight, if the state says it's part of the curriculum?"

There's a lot about numerous religions I don't agree with passionately. Though I think they should be taught in a factual manner. My grandparents would have been taught my sexuality was totally abhorrent by their religions, it doesn't mean I don't want my children to learn about Christianity. Knowledge is power and open discussions about religion is not a bad thing. Not entirely sure what the definition of religion Vs cult when it comes to the smaller ones though, so unsure of the cut off points for educational purposes.

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By *VineMan  over a year ago

The right place


"Most people in the world today (and throughout human history) have some religious beliefs. If you want to understand history and cultural differences you need to include an understanding of religion. Although popular now in this country it’s important to remember that Atheism is a minority view point.

Atheism comes second behind Christianity with approx 26% of the population being non believers. Other religions don't come close. Christianity is under 60%. And though stats don't tell the whole truth clearly non believers are far from a minority. "

Last time I checked 26% is a minority! And that figure is for the UK today. Over the course of human history globally, atheism is a much much smaller percentage.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"I'm the oldest on this thread and I cannot recall a time when ONLY Christianity was taught in school.

I can,

Jay

Im sure i only learnt about white Jesus and God...not sure anyone else got a look in. "

O.M.G ...... white jesus! You are so right and no one questioned it ..... Bloody hell. Big beardy white jesus and his dad white haired ole white God.

Ah well ..... times change.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Only ever was one true Christian and they nailed him to a cross

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"Most people in the world today (and throughout human history) have some religious beliefs. If you want to understand history and cultural differences you need to include an understanding of religion. Although popular now in this country it’s important to remember that Atheism is a minority view point.

Atheism comes second behind Christianity with approx 26% of the population being non believers. Other religions don't come close. Christianity is under 60%. And though stats don't tell the whole truth clearly non believers are far from a minority.

Last time I checked 26% is a minority! And that figure is for the UK today. Over the course of human history globally, atheism is a much much smaller percentage. "

No. The rest are the minority. Coming in at 1% or slightly more.

26% is not a minority when it comes to counting religious membership in the uk.

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex


"I don't think religious education should be taught in schools. Its up to the parents. X

I disagree. Same as I think that sex Ed and diversity should be taught in schools. Some parents will push their own views and ideals on their children therefore making the child unable to make informed decisions.

I struggle with this. Is any child able to make an informed decision? Why is the state better equipped to inform my children on sex and religion than me?

Because there are some parents who will say that being gay is wrong or that others of another religion are crackers. At least if it's in school and part of a curriculum, it would be taught without bias.

I wasn't taught anything about bisexuality by either school or my parents in the age before the internet. Some basic facts would have made my teenage years a lot less confusing.

Is it only the views that we agree with that should be endorsed and taught by the state? Or is it ok for views that we're very opposed to to be taight, if the state says it's part of the curriculum?

There's a lot about numerous religions I don't agree with passionately. Though I think they should be taught in a factual manner. My grandparents would have been taught my sexuality was totally abhorrent by their religions, it doesn't mean I don't want my children to learn about Christianity. Knowledge is power and open discussions about religion is not a bad thing. Not entirely sure what the definition of religion Vs cult when it comes to the smaller ones though, so unsure of the cut off points for educational purposes."

Open discussion is always a good thing and if a subject can be taught completely factually and without bias that's great but it never is. The state puts the bias there when the curriculum is approved. If the bias is towards me and my views I'm going to be very happy but once the power to teach kids with a state approved bias is in place it's very difficult to take it away.

We agreed to our children having both religious and sex education at school mainly because we broadly agreed with how it was taught but if we didn't...what then?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"Only ever was one true Christian and they nailed him to a cross "

Christianity hadn't been invented then. So he wasn't a Christian.

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By *VineMan  over a year ago

The right place


"Only ever was one true Christian and they nailed him to a cross

Christianity hadn't been invented then. So he wasn't a Christian. "

Absolutely right. Jesus was a Jewish rabbi.

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex


"I'm the oldest on this thread and I cannot recall a time when ONLY Christianity was taught in school.

I can,

Jay

Im sure i only learnt about white Jesus and God...not sure anyone else got a look in. "

They didn't and when a man came and have is a talk on atheism our music teacher got up on stage and told us not to listen to his evil ideas.

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By *ild_oatsMan  over a year ago

the land of saints & sinners

Atheism should also be taught alongside religion.

That way all belief system can be understood

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By *inky_couple2020Couple  over a year ago

North West


"I don't think religious education should be taught in schools. Its up to the parents. X

I disagree. Same as I think that sex Ed and diversity should be taught in schools. Some parents will push their own views and ideals on their children therefore making the child unable to make informed decisions.

I struggle with this. Is any child able to make an informed decision? Why is the state better equipped to inform my children on sex and religion than me?

Because there are some parents who will say that being gay is wrong or that others of another religion are crackers. At least if it's in school and part of a curriculum, it would be taught without bias.

I wasn't taught anything about bisexuality by either school or my parents in the age before the internet. Some basic facts would have made my teenage years a lot less confusing.

Is it only the views that we agree with that should be endorsed and taught by the state? Or is it ok for views that we're very opposed to to be taight, if the state says it's part of the curriculum?

There's a lot about numerous religions I don't agree with passionately. Though I think they should be taught in a factual manner. My grandparents would have been taught my sexuality was totally abhorrent by their religions, it doesn't mean I don't want my children to learn about Christianity. Knowledge is power and open discussions about religion is not a bad thing. Not entirely sure what the definition of religion Vs cult when it comes to the smaller ones though, so unsure of the cut off points for educational purposes.

Open discussion is always a good thing and if a subject can be taught completely factually and without bias that's great but it never is. The state puts the bias there when the curriculum is approved. If the bias is towards me and my views I'm going to be very happy but once the power to teach kids with a state approved bias is in place it's very difficult to take it away.

We agreed to our children having both religious and sex education at school mainly because we broadly agreed with how it was taught but if we didn't...what then?"

Devils advocate here, but you could say that about many subjects. Some parents object to the focus in History teaching eg those from a background involving slavery or oppression from the British Empire. Some object to the teaching of evolution in Biology. Some believe the Earth is flat and thus will find Physics to be contrary. Parents pick holes, rightly or wrongly, in all curriculum areas.

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By *uffymayfairCouple  over a year ago

vera playa, Almeria

Well up here on the Isle of Lewis, for a lot of the population god is everything (certainly not us) and after a tragic suicide by a student in the school they didn't have councillors come in they had a minister talking to the children about god.

In my opinion religion comes under the fiction category, I look at the misery and oppression that has been caused by having it forced on impressionable young minds and I conclude that it certainly should not be taught in school.

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex


"I don't think religious education should be taught in schools. Its up to the parents. X

I disagree. Same as I think that sex Ed and diversity should be taught in schools. Some parents will push their own views and ideals on their children therefore making the child unable to make informed decisions.

I struggle with this. Is any child able to make an informed decision? Why is the state better equipped to inform my children on sex and religion than me?

Because there are some parents who will say that being gay is wrong or that others of another religion are crackers. At least if it's in school and part of a curriculum, it would be taught without bias.

I wasn't taught anything about bisexuality by either school or my parents in the age before the internet. Some basic facts would have made my teenage years a lot less confusing.

Is it only the views that we agree with that should be endorsed and taught by the state? Or is it ok for views that we're very opposed to to be taight, if the state says it's part of the curriculum?

There's a lot about numerous religions I don't agree with passionately. Though I think they should be taught in a factual manner. My grandparents would have been taught my sexuality was totally abhorrent by their religions, it doesn't mean I don't want my children to learn about Christianity. Knowledge is power and open discussions about religion is not a bad thing. Not entirely sure what the definition of religion Vs cult when it comes to the smaller ones though, so unsure of the cut off points for educational purposes.

Open discussion is always a good thing and if a subject can be taught completely factually and without bias that's great but it never is. The state puts the bias there when the curriculum is approved. If the bias is towards me and my views I'm going to be very happy but once the power to teach kids with a state approved bias is in place it's very difficult to take it away.

We agreed to our children having both religious and sex education at school mainly because we broadly agreed with how it was taught but if we didn't...what then?

Devils advocate here, but you could say that about many subjects. Some parents object to the focus in History teaching eg those from a background involving slavery or oppression from the British Empire. Some object to the teaching of evolution in Biology. Some believe the Earth is flat and thus will find Physics to be contrary. Parents pick holes, rightly or wrongly, in all curriculum areas. "

You're right! We're all unhappy with the bits we don't agree with but very happy with the stuff that backs our views.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"I'm the oldest on this thread and I cannot recall a time when ONLY Christianity was taught in school.

I can,

Jay

Im sure i only learnt about white Jesus and God...not sure anyone else got a look in.

They didn't and when a man came and have is a talk on atheism our music teacher got up on stage and told us not to listen to his evil ideas."

Now i'm laughing out loud....... oh dear. How come i'm so normal. The rest of you are ruined !

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Only ever was one true Christian and they nailed him to a cross

Christianity hadn't been invented then. So he wasn't a Christian.

Absolutely right. Jesus was a Jewish rabbi. "

Please don't let fact get in the way of a good story. Now where's my 5000 fish ....

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"Only ever was one true Christian and they nailed him to a cross

Christianity hadn't been invented then. So he wasn't a Christian.

Absolutely right. Jesus was a Jewish rabbi.

Please don't let fact get in the way of a good story. Now where's my 5000 fish ...."

No stupid...... It was 5 fish. 5000 hungry buggers.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm the oldest on this thread and I cannot recall a time when ONLY Christianity was taught in school.

I can,

Jay

Im sure i only learnt about white Jesus and God...not sure anyone else got a look in.

They didn't and when a man came and have is a talk on atheism our music teacher got up on stage and told us not to listen to his evil ideas.

Now i'm laughing out loud....... oh dear. How come i'm so normal. The rest of you are ruined !"

Oi...I'm with you granny... I was sitting in the science lab when they handed out Gideon bibles at school.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Only ever was one true Christian and they nailed him to a cross

Christianity hadn't been invented then. So he wasn't a Christian.

Absolutely right. Jesus was a Jewish rabbi.

Please don't let fact get in the way of a good story. Now where's my 5000 fish ....

No stupid...... It was 5 fish. 5000 hungry buggers. "

How did he stretch them out to feed 5000 then...well that is a miracle...I'm now a believer.

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By *emorefridaCouple  over a year ago

La la land


"I don't think religious education should be taught in schools. Its up to the parents. X

I disagree. Same as I think that sex Ed and diversity should be taught in schools. Some parents will push their own views and ideals on their children therefore making the child unable to make informed decisions.

I struggle with this. Is any child able to make an informed decision? Why is the state better equipped to inform my children on sex and religion than me?

Because there are some parents who will say that being gay is wrong or that others of another religion are crackers. At least if it's in school and part of a curriculum, it would be taught without bias.

I wasn't taught anything about bisexuality by either school or my parents in the age before the internet. Some basic facts would have made my teenage years a lot less confusing.

Is it only the views that we agree with that should be endorsed and taught by the state? Or is it ok for views that we're very opposed to to be taight, if the state says it's part of the curriculum?

There's a lot about numerous religions I don't agree with passionately. Though I think they should be taught in a factual manner. My grandparents would have been taught my sexuality was totally abhorrent by their religions, it doesn't mean I don't want my children to learn about Christianity. Knowledge is power and open discussions about religion is not a bad thing. Not entirely sure what the definition of religion Vs cult when it comes to the smaller ones though, so unsure of the cut off points for educational purposes.

Open discussion is always a good thing and if a subject can be taught completely factually and without bias that's great but it never is. The state puts the bias there when the curriculum is approved. If the bias is towards me and my views I'm going to be very happy but once the power to teach kids with a state approved bias is in place it's very difficult to take it away.

We agreed to our children having both religious and sex education at school mainly because we broadly agreed with how it was taught but if we didn't...what then?"

There isn't a perfect system I agree. But I do believe that if there is a curriculum, parents can read it and then add or discuss the bits they disagree with with their children. So for example if a parent was anti gay they would have to explain to their child why they have that view point. Or in my case why God did not create the world in 7 days. I see a curriculum as a starting point for these kind of things

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"Only ever was one true Christian and they nailed him to a cross

Christianity hadn't been invented then. So he wasn't a Christian.

Absolutely right. Jesus was a Jewish rabbi.

Please don't let fact get in the way of a good story. Now where's my 5000 fish ....

No stupid...... It was 5 fish. 5000 hungry buggers.

How did he stretch them out to feed 5000 then...well that is a miracle...I'm now a believer. "

He is the lord ! That's how.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm the oldest on this thread and I cannot recall a time when ONLY Christianity was taught in school.

I can,

Jay

Im sure i only learnt about white Jesus and God...not sure anyone else got a look in.

O.M.G ...... white jesus! You are so right and no one questioned it ..... Bloody hell. Big beardy white jesus and his dad white haired ole white God.

Ah well ..... times change. "

It was taught in a manner mostly resembling a scene from the life of Brian

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Only ever was one true Christian and they nailed him to a cross

Christianity hadn't been invented then. So he wasn't a Christian.

Absolutely right. Jesus was a Jewish rabbi.

Please don't let fact get in the way of a good story. Now where's my 5000 fish ....

No stupid...... It was 5 fish. 5000 hungry buggers.

How did he stretch them out to feed 5000 then...well that is a miracle...I'm now a believer.

He is the lord ! That's how. "

I will praise him.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Clunge ! I've just Googled it. It's only gone and said it was just TWO fishies 2 and 5 loaves!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm the oldest on this thread and I cannot recall a time when ONLY Christianity was taught in school.

I can,

Jay

Im sure i only learnt about white Jesus and God...not sure anyone else got a look in.

O.M.G ...... white jesus! You are so right and no one questioned it ..... Bloody hell. Big beardy white jesus and his dad white haired ole white God.

Ah well ..... times change.

It was taught in a manner mostly resembling a scene from the life of Brian "

... at least you can laugh about it..

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex


"I don't think religious education should be taught in schools. Its up to the parents. X

I disagree. Same as I think that sex Ed and diversity should be taught in schools. Some parents will push their own views and ideals on their children therefore making the child unable to make informed decisions.

I struggle with this. Is any child able to make an informed decision? Why is the state better equipped to inform my children on sex and religion than me?

Because there are some parents who will say that being gay is wrong or that others of another religion are crackers. At least if it's in school and part of a curriculum, it would be taught without bias.

I wasn't taught anything about bisexuality by either school or my parents in the age before the internet. Some basic facts would have made my teenage years a lot less confusing.

Is it only the views that we agree with that should be endorsed and taught by the state? Or is it ok for views that we're very opposed to to be taight, if the state says it's part of the curriculum?

There's a lot about numerous religions I don't agree with passionately. Though I think they should be taught in a factual manner. My grandparents would have been taught my sexuality was totally abhorrent by their religions, it doesn't mean I don't want my children to learn about Christianity. Knowledge is power and open discussions about religion is not a bad thing. Not entirely sure what the definition of religion Vs cult when it comes to the smaller ones though, so unsure of the cut off points for educational purposes.

Open discussion is always a good thing and if a subject can be taught completely factually and without bias that's great but it never is. The state puts the bias there when the curriculum is approved. If the bias is towards me and my views I'm going to be very happy but once the power to teach kids with a state approved bias is in place it's very difficult to take it away.

We agreed to our children having both religious and sex education at school mainly because we broadly agreed with how it was taught but if we didn't...what then?

There isn't a perfect system I agree. But I do believe that if there is a curriculum, parents can read it and then add or discuss the bits they disagree with with their children. So for example if a parent was anti gay they would have to explain to their child why they have that view point. Or in my case why God did not create the world in 7 days. I see a curriculum as a starting point for these kind of things "

Us too, for all the reasons I've said.

I'm just not too keen on the state telling my kids what their opinions should be about certain things.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Clunge ! I've just Googled it. It's only gone and said it was just TWO fishies 2 and 5 loaves!"

WTF...and how many turned up ? Wasn't there something about wine aswell...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I loved Religious Education when I was in school. The Hindu gods and goddesses were my favourite, especially Shiva!

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By *ensualtouch15Man  over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"I'm the oldest on this thread and I cannot recall a time when ONLY Christianity was taught in school.

I can,

Jay"

Me too

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By *aastyKnixWoman  over a year ago

Liverpool


"I've often wondered, if no child was taught religion of any description at all but we were all told the stories at,say age 18. How many of us would be believers?

I can certainly understand why some would want religion taught to children. Get 'em while they're young (and gullible??).

I'd guess ( though i've no proof ) that parents play a larger part than schools in determining what their children believe. "

And if those parents had not been told the stories until age 18 I'd guess the stories might not be passed on.

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By *entileschiWoman  over a year ago

Norwich

All religions should be taught in schools in an unbiased way but school assemblies should not have a religious element to them.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Atheism should also be taught alongside religion.

That way all belief system can be understood "

Atheism is a religion. Buddhists, for example, are atheists, as are Humanists. Both feature in modern gcse and A level specifications

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

My cousin runs his own church

Church of the flying spaghetti monster.

Not sure what schools, if any, his message is taught at.

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By *hickennchipsWoman  over a year ago

up above the streets and houses

No I don’t think they should. Lessons about mental health, budgets, financing etc would be much more useful IMO

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman  over a year ago

On a mooch


"No I don’t think they should. Lessons about mental health, budgets, financing etc would be much more useful IMO "

They do them to

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It's a difficult one. I don't want my children taught religious babble at school but I don't want to give up the holidays. Easter eggs, Christmas presents or guising. Keep the good bits.

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By *ensualtouch15Man  over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"Atheism should also be taught alongside religion.

That way all belief system can be understood

Atheism is a religion. Buddhists, for example, are atheists, as are Humanists. Both feature in modern gcse and A level specifications "

Atheism is not a religion

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By *uffymayfairCouple  over a year ago

vera playa, Almeria

Has anyone watched Hail Satan on netflix, a school in the US had an after school Christian club so the satanic temple set up an after school Satan club which really upset a few people, equality

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I think religion should be taught in school but what's critical is the lens that it's taught through. It should be taught to encourage acceptance of different beliefs especially as a lot of hatred stems from simple ignorance.

However it should not be taught as a way to recruit people into religion. And I say this as a non-atheist.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I think morals, understanding, kindness and right from wrong can be taught without religion.

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By *naswingdressWoman  over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"I think morals, understanding, kindness and right from wrong can be taught without religion. "

Absolutely.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

No religion only causes arguments an we all no God isn't real cos I've never seen him an he's definitely not ever going to help me so whats the point??

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

We live in the wetern world, and pretty much most of societys' structure and law stems from moral teachings from the bible. That's not to say, that you need religion to have a good moral compass.. But many many moons ago, this is where most laws in the modern western world come from, and nowadays, it just seems normal and no thought given to what influenced people to structure society in the way that it was.

All that being said, there are many zealots and charlatans that have imposed there own interpretation of scripture and pretty much bastardised what was actually been written through bad translation over time.

As for education for kids, teach them english maths and science until they have good grasp of this, then have eduction tailored to their actual interests rather than indoctrinate them as the current system does..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It's a difficult one. I don't want my children taught religious babble at school but I don't want to give up the holidays. Easter eggs, Christmas presents or guising. Keep the good bits.

"

You don't have to. I don't think Jesus was aware of santa and Easter eggs.

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By *partharmonyCouple  over a year ago

Ruislip


"The Christian values are important to teach all people! The world would be a nicer place if everyone had them! However teaching the unfactual basis that Christianity is the foundation of life and not science (Big Bang) is something I disagree with

I do NOT need to be taught Christianity to not covet your ox.

No one even likes your ox.

It's an ugly ox. "

I bet you'd like my ox. I've got a huge ox. Our profile would be full of ox photos if we were allowed to include photos of animals. Luke

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By *lanemikeMan  over a year ago

Bolton


"No religion only causes arguments an we all no God isn't real cos I've never seen him an he's definitely not ever going to help me so whats the point?? "

No, we don't all know God isn't real, That is a presumption on your part, I would submit. To many people, me included, he is VERY real.....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Atheism should also be taught alongside religion.

That way all belief system can be understood

Atheism is a religion. Buddhists, for example, are atheists, as are Humanists. Both feature in modern gcse and A level specifications

Atheism is not a religion "

The ism part of Atheism makes it a religion, as the be an Atheist, you BELIVE in no God, making the term oxymoronic and redundant. Most Atheists say they belive in science, which is cool, but it's still a belief, and then when it comes to theoreticl science, this is a belief system... All sounds like a religion to me.

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By *partharmonyCouple  over a year ago

Ruislip


"We live in the wetern world, and pretty much most of societys' structure and law stems from moral teachings from the bible. That's not to say, that you need religion to have a good moral compass.. But many many moons ago, this is where most laws in the modern western world come from, and nowadays, it just seems normal and no thought given to what influenced people to structure society in the way that it was.

All that being said, there are many zealots and charlatans that have imposed there own interpretation of scripture and pretty much bastardised what was actually been written through bad translation over time.

As for education for kids, teach them english maths and science until they have good grasp of this, then have eduction tailored to their actual interests rather than indoctrinate them as the current system does.. "

I disagree. Virtually no western values stem from the Bible. Not stealing or murdering is in there but I'm not aware of any society that condones them, Christian or otherwise, so I can't see how that could be said to come from the Bible.

The Bible promotes slavery which thankfully is now condemned. There is stacks of plundering towns and slaughtering people which we don't accept.

The principle of Jesus supposedly being sacrificed voluntarily for something I did would be a travesty in our age (or a miscarriage of justice if it was not voluntary).

So where do you think biblical morality is present in Western judicial values?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Atheism should also be taught alongside religion.

That way all belief system can be understood

Atheism is a religion. Buddhists, for example, are atheists, as are Humanists. Both feature in modern gcse and A level specifications

Atheism is not a religion "

I taught Religious Studies for 27 years. It is, trust me.

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By *partharmonyCouple  over a year ago

Ruislip


"Atheism should also be taught alongside religion.

That way all belief system can be understood

Atheism is a religion. Buddhists, for example, are atheists, as are Humanists. Both feature in modern gcse and A level specifications

Atheism is not a religion

The ism part of Atheism makes it a religion, as the be an Atheist, you BELIVE in no God, making the term oxymoronic and redundant. Most Atheists say they belive in science, which is cool, but it's still a belief, and then when it comes to theoreticl science, this is a belief system... All sounds like a religion to me. "

Atheism is absolutely not a religion. It is precisely the opposite. It is a rejection of religion.

You can't just say anything related to a belief is a religion. I believe that if I jumped off the top of a 30-story building without a parachute I would die. Is that a religion?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Atheism should also be taught alongside religion.

That way all belief system can be understood

Atheism is a religion. Buddhists, for example, are atheists, as are Humanists. Both feature in modern gcse and A level specifications

Atheism is not a religion

The ism part of Atheism makes it a religion, as the be an Atheist, you BELIVE in no God, making the term oxymoronic and redundant. Most Atheists say they belive in science, which is cool, but it's still a belief, and then when it comes to theoreticl science, this is a belief system... All sounds like a religion to me.

Atheism is absolutely not a religion. It is precisely the opposite. It is a rejection of religion.

You can't just say anything related to a belief is a religion. I believe that if I jumped off the top of a 30-story building without a parachute I would die. Is that a religion? "

It is a disbelief in the existence of god/s. Plenty of religions fit that description.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Atheism should also be taught alongside religion.

That way all belief system can be understood

Atheism is a religion. Buddhists, for example, are atheists, as are Humanists. Both feature in modern gcse and A level specifications

Atheism is not a religion

The ism part of Atheism makes it a religion, as the be an Atheist, you BELIVE in no God, making the term oxymoronic and redundant. Most Atheists say they belive in science, which is cool, but it's still a belief, and then when it comes to theoreticl science, this is a belief system... All sounds like a religion to me. "

Brilliantly put but I don't believe in big foot and do believe in science...do I get to start my own religion.

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple  over a year ago

London


"Atheism should also be taught alongside religion.

That way all belief system can be understood

Atheism is a religion. Buddhists, for example, are atheists, as are Humanists. Both feature in modern gcse and A level specifications

Atheism is not a religion

I taught Religious Studies for 27 years. It is, trust me. "

All depends what you mean by "religion". If you mean a metaphysical belief system with ultimately unprovable assumptions, then it would be, along with socialism, existentialism, fascism etc etc

However, I think most people use the word "religion" to mean a metaphysical belief system involving a belief in supernatural being or beings involving acts of worship to said beings.

In which case atheism is clearly not a religion.

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By *partharmonyCouple  over a year ago

Ruislip


"Atheism should also be taught alongside religion.

That way all belief system can be understood

Atheism is a religion. Buddhists, for example, are atheists, as are Humanists. Both feature in modern gcse and A level specifications

Atheism is not a religion

I taught Religious Studies for 27 years. It is, trust me. "

I have been an atheist for several years. It isn't, trust me.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

I have done a new thread we can continue on

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Atheism should also be taught alongside religion.

That way all belief system can be understood

Atheism is a religion. Buddhists, for example, are atheists, as are Humanists. Both feature in modern gcse and A level specifications

Atheism is not a religion

I taught Religious Studies for 27 years. It is, trust me.

I have been an atheist for several years. It isn't, trust me. "

As a 'belief' in no god, it can be regarded as religion; as previously mentioned, there are many atheist religions. To be without religion, 'secular' would be more accurate.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Atheism should also be taught alongside religion.

That way all belief system can be understood

Atheism is a religion. Buddhists, for example, are atheists, as are Humanists. Both feature in modern gcse and A level specifications

Atheism is not a religion

I taught Religious Studies for 27 years. It is, trust me.

All depends what you mean by "religion". If you mean a metaphysical belief system with ultimately unprovable assumptions, then it would be, along with socialism, existentialism, fascism etc etc

However, I think most people use the word "religion" to mean a metaphysical belief system involving a belief in supernatural being or beings involving acts of worship to said beings.

In which case atheism is clearly not a religion. "

Buddhism clearly is.

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By *ensualtouch15Man  over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"Atheism should also be taught alongside religion.

That way all belief system can be understood

Atheism is a religion. Buddhists, for example, are atheists, as are Humanists. Both feature in modern gcse and A level specifications

Atheism is not a religion

The ism part of Atheism makes it a religion, as the be an Atheist, you BELIVE in no God, making the term oxymoronic and redundant. Most Atheists say they belive in science, which is cool, but it's still a belief, and then when it comes to theoreticl science, this is a belief system... All sounds like a religion to me. "

That's incorrect

A = without

Theism = belief in any human invented God concepts

There is ca human invent God concept concerning spaghetti

I have not seen sufficient data to form an opinion it is true

No belief is required no doctrine to follow

Simply zero belief held

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

No

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By *ensualtouch15Man  over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"Atheism should also be taught alongside religion.

That way all belief system can be understood

Atheism is a religion. Buddhists, for example, are atheists, as are Humanists. Both feature in modern gcse and A level specifications

Atheism is not a religion

The ism part of Atheism makes it a religion, as the be an Atheist, you BELIVE in no God, making the term oxymoronic and redundant. Most Atheists say they belive in science, which is cool, but it's still a belief, and then when it comes to theoreticl science, this is a belief system... All sounds like a religion to me.

Atheism is absolutely not a religion. It is precisely the opposite. It is a rejection of religion.

You can't just say anything related to a belief is a religion. I believe that if I jumped off the top of a 30-story building without a parachute I would die. Is that a religion? "

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple  over a year ago

London


"Atheism should also be taught alongside religion.

That way all belief system can be understood

Atheism is a religion. Buddhists, for example, are atheists, as are Humanists. Both feature in modern gcse and A level specifications

Atheism is not a religion

I taught Religious Studies for 27 years. It is, trust me.

I have been an atheist for several years. It isn't, trust me.

As a 'belief' in no god, it can be regarded as religion; as previously mentioned, there are many atheist religions. To be without religion, 'secular' would be more accurate. "

Secularism is the belief that religion should have no involvement in the state, so just as much a belief as atheism.

I don't think you can conflate all belief systems with religions. At the very basic religion is a belief system involving belief in some sort of supernatural realm. Atheism denies the existence of any such realm.

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By *uffymayfairCouple  over a year ago

vera playa, Almeria

Just decided if they are teaching religion then Satanism should be included but I can't see that happening

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By *partharmonyCouple  over a year ago

Ruislip


"Atheism should also be taught alongside religion.

That way all belief system can be understood

Atheism is a religion. Buddhists, for example, are atheists, as are Humanists. Both feature in modern gcse and A level specifications

Atheism is not a religion

I taught Religious Studies for 27 years. It is, trust me.

I have been an atheist for several years. It isn't, trust me.

As a 'belief' in no god, it can be regarded as religion; as previously mentioned, there are many atheist religions. To be without religion, 'secular' would be more accurate. "

There is "theism" - having a belief in a god (or in gods) - and there is "a-theism" - not having a belief in a god (or in gods).

Some atheists hold a positive belief there are no gods, others (like myself) simply say "case unproven". I have never seen any evidence of a god do I withhold a conclusion until evidence is presented. They are both atheistic positions. Neither has anything to worship, any dogma, any rituals or anything else relating it to a religion. Just saying it relates to belief seems to be an incredibly tentative link to religion. It is a position on a single issue and nothing more.

Just because Buddhism has atheism as part of it, it doesn't mean that anybody who shares that single aspect is following a religion. There is a lot more to Buddhism than it it rejects belief in gods. I could come up with a religion that tells adherents not to buy Audi cars. That wouldn't mean everybody who has never bought an Audi is religious.

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