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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Can anyone who’s on or been on the keto plan give any advice or tips please ? Running low on energy at the moment!

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By *naswingdressWoman  over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

If you're new to it, look up keto flu. Supplement your electrolytes.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Hello Check our RX Muscle on youtube Dave is an expert on Keto it works for some I tried it for a while it worked I lost weight but I didn’t enjoy it after a few weeks I stuck it out for 2 months

You shouldn’t really get low energy because when you go into ketosis your body uses fat sources for fuel

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By *ensualtouch15Man  over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"Can anyone who’s on or been on the keto plan give any advice or tips please ? Running low on energy at the moment!"

Yes stop and eat properly

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Any reputable professional dietician, one who works with patients and not social media, will tell you there is one group of people that should try and be in Ketosis, children and young adults who have hard to control epilepsy.

Every single diet, no matter what it is, is simply about controlling how much you eat compared to burn. Being in Ketosis is actually very hard, your body wants to burn carbohydrates not protein.

The tiniest amount of carbs and your body switches, back. As someone who has put someone into forces ketosis, and had to check blood sugars constantly, I can tell you that almost everyone doing keto as a weight loss isn’t in ketosis very often, if ever. The amount of carb needed to take you out for days is in almost everything you eat.

If you want to make lasting change you can’t use a diet that you can’t stick to. If your meal plans mean your depriving yourself of a type of food you like it won’t ever be sustainable.

It’s a hell of a lot easier to not eat that pack of crisps than it is to burn off the 150 calories.

Lasting change comes from changing your eating habits, in a way that suits your life. Good luck with it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"If you're new to it, look up keto flu. Supplement your electrolytes."
thank you I’ll have a look !

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Any reputable professional dietician, one who works with patients and not social media, will tell you there is one group of people that should try and be in Ketosis, children and young adults who have hard to control epilepsy.

Every single diet, no matter what it is, is simply about controlling how much you eat compared to burn. Being in Ketosis is actually very hard, your body wants to burn carbohydrates not protein.

The tiniest amount of carbs and your body switches, back. As someone who has put someone into forces ketosis, and had to check blood sugars constantly, I can tell you that almost everyone doing keto as a weight loss isn’t in ketosis very often, if ever. The amount of carb needed to take you out for days is in almost everything you eat.

If you want to make lasting change you can’t use a diet that you can’t stick to. If your meal plans mean your depriving yourself of a type of food you like it won’t ever be sustainable.

It’s a hell of a lot easier to not eat that pack of crisps than it is to burn off the 150 calories.

Lasting change comes from changing your eating habits, in a way that suits your life. Good luck with it."

very good advice and thank you

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Sounds like more like low blood sodium to me, a drink with a oxo cube or chicken stock cube would be beneficial at replacing low sodium

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By *1bttmMan  over a year ago

Shoreditch east London


"Hello Check our RX Muscle on youtube Dave is an expert on Keto it works for some I tried it for a while it worked I lost weight but I didn’t enjoy it after a few weeks I stuck it out for 2 months

You shouldn’t really get low energy because when you go into ketosis your body uses fat sources for fuel "

U get the low energy as yr carb stores are depleted from yr muscles then yr liver. Keto flu is brought on from switching from carbs to fats and the sluggish flu like symptoms should disappear after a few days. Ketones are produced which sends the chemical messages to yr body that there is no supply of carbs left to use as an energy source and it kick starts the body to then use fat as an energy source. By nature yr body holds fat stores as a last resort to produce energy and will only do so after complete carb depletion. But as the switch over can take a few days to a week depending on the individual the loss of energy is a sure sign the body is going into keto.

Once yr in full keto u should actually ave loads of energy. It can almost be like a switch flicking....one day u feel so down and lack energy and the next yr buzzing and full of it. Sluggishness also comes from the fact yr brain requires loads of carbs/sugars to function so u might actually feel a bit fuzzy headed but this will pass when the switch is made.

Good luck

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Sounds like more like low blood sodium to me, a drink with a oxo cube or chicken stock cube would be beneficial at replacing low sodium "
cheers

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Hello Check our RX Muscle on youtube Dave is an expert on Keto it works for some I tried it for a while it worked I lost weight but I didn’t enjoy it after a few weeks I stuck it out for 2 months

You shouldn’t really get low energy because when you go into ketosis your body uses fat sources for fuel

U get the low energy as yr carb stores are depleted from yr muscles then yr liver. Keto flu is brought on from switching from carbs to fats and the sluggish flu like symptoms should disappear after a few days. Ketones are produced which sends the chemical messages to yr body that there is no supply of carbs left to use as an energy source and it kick starts the body to then use fat as an energy source. By nature yr body holds fat stores as a last resort to produce energy and will only do so after complete carb depletion. But as the switch over can take a few days to a week depending on the individual the loss of energy is a sure sign the body is going into keto.

Once yr in full keto u should actually ave loads of energy. It can almost be like a switch flicking....one day u feel so down and lack energy and the next yr buzzing and full of it. Sluggishness also comes from the fact yr brain requires loads of carbs/sugars to function so u might actually feel a bit fuzzy headed but this will pass when the switch is made.

Good luck"

thank you only looking to do this for 2-4 weeks before I eat a more balance diet to go with a workout routine ! Just need to shift a bit of weight quick

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By *elshkinkyMan  over a year ago

south wales

Visit a good dietician and get a bespoke plan. So much better

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

First thing that happens, on a keto diet low in carbs is that glycogen is drained from the body, a large loss in water as a result, like flushing a radiator.

Sodium, potassium and minerals are held in the water.

Low sodium results in a retarded energy system.

Whether or not you go into ketosis your body needs salt.

Very overlooked part of a successful keto diet.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Home bargains sell a suppliment called HYDRO, will be with all the protein and fitness stuff, its an electrolyte and magnesium supplement in a soluble tablet. I have been on Keto since 2nd jan and lost 8kg. I have one of these every day.

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By *ensualtouch15Man  over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

Hmm all this advice

All suggestions of adding minerals and yet

The ONLY data we have is he is low on energy

I'd at least want a diary of three days food and fluids ??? To make ANY assumptions about his nutritional deficiencies

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Hmm all this advice

All suggestions of adding minerals and yet

The ONLY data we have is he is low on energy

I'd at least want a diary of three days food and fluids ??? To make ANY assumptions about his nutritional deficiencies

Definitely have a point !

Day one

Scrambled egg 2 rashers of bacon

Chicken fillet with salad

Day 2

Omelette

Turkey and avocado salad

Day 3

Beef patty and homemade almond/coconut muffin

Am drinking plenty of water ! Oh and am a dry liner so physical work

"

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By *ensualtouch15Man  over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"Hmm all this advice

All suggestions of adding minerals and yet

The ONLY data we have is he is low on energy

I'd at least want a diary of three days food and fluids ??? To make ANY assumptions about his nutritional deficiencies

Definitely have a point !

Day one

Scrambled egg 2 rashers of bacon

Chicken fillet with salad

Day 2

Omelette

Turkey and avocado salad

Day 3

Beef patty and homemade almond/coconut muffin

Am drinking plenty of water ! Oh and am a dry liner so physical work

"

Damn it's not lack of electrolytes its lack of erm , food

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By *naswingdressWoman  over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Hmm all this advice

All suggestions of adding minerals and yet

The ONLY data we have is he is low on energy

I'd at least want a diary of three days food and fluids ??? To make ANY assumptions about his nutritional deficiencies

Definitely have a point !

Day one

Scrambled egg 2 rashers of bacon

Chicken fillet with salad

Day 2

Omelette

Turkey and avocado salad

Day 3

Beef patty and homemade almond/coconut muffin

Am drinking plenty of water ! Oh and am a dry liner so physical work

Damn it's not lack of electrolytes its lack of erm , food "

Yeah. Apologies.

Eat more

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By *ensualtouch15Man  over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"Hmm all this advice

All suggestions of adding minerals and yet

The ONLY data we have is he is low on energy

I'd at least want a diary of three days food and fluids ??? To make ANY assumptions about his nutritional deficiencies

Definitely have a point !

Day one

Scrambled egg 2 rashers of bacon

Chicken fillet with salad

Day 2

Omelette

Turkey and avocado salad

Day 3

Beef patty and homemade almond/coconut muffin

Am drinking plenty of water ! Oh and am a dry liner so physical work

Damn it's not lack of electrolytes its lack of erm , food "

Day one less than 1000 cals

Day 2 less than 1000 cals

Day 3 less than 1000 cals

Also not one day did you have over 60 -70 g protein you should be double that

Look your trying for rapid fat loss

Stop it

Get my fitness pal

Eat approx 1700 cals or 400 less than your maintaining value I guess 22 ish

Eat 30 35 35

Carb fat protein

Stop the keto you dont understand it or yourself

Fat loss is intelligent and long term

Dont (run) with keto until you understand and can (walk) a balanced consistent fat loss

I practice and understand keto but it's not for you yet

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Id agree you are eating far too little.

If you really want to stay on kete download an app like MyFitnessPal or carb counter and do your macros properly.

Everyone is different, I stay between 1600 and 1800 cals per day eating around 20g carb, 90-100g protein and 100g max fat.

You really need to plan your meals, otherwise you might do more damage than good. I researched for months before starting.

There are loads of recipies on pintrest and youtube.

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By *ensualtouch15Man  over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

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By *ensualtouch15Man  over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


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Id agree you are eating far too little.

If you really want to stay on kete download an app like MyFitnessPal or carb counter and do your macros properly.

Everyone is different, I stay between 1600 and 1800 cals per day eating around 20g carb, 90-100g protein and 100g max fat.

You really need to plan your meals, otherwise you might do more damage than good. I researched for months before starting.

There are loads of recipies on pintrest and youtube."

20 g carb = 80 cal

100 g protein = 400 cal

100 g fat = 900 cal

Hmm You advise 1380 cals

And let's note that although a gram of protein gives a so called 4 cals it is the least efficient consuming the most energy in its metabolism and being used directly for repair and not fuel

Stop attempting keto

Eat approx 100 -140 g carb

130 g pro

And 90 g fat

Achieve maintain and

Learn from this balance then slowly lower your carb or fats as you need to

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Hmm all this advice

All suggestions of adding minerals and yet

The ONLY data we have is he is low on energy

I'd at least want a diary of three days food and fluids ??? To make ANY assumptions about his nutritional deficiencies

Definitely have a point !

Day one

Scrambled egg 2 rashers of bacon

Chicken fillet with salad

Day 2

Omelette

Turkey and avocado salad

Day 3

Beef patty and homemade almond/coconut muffin

Am drinking plenty of water ! Oh and am a dry liner so physical work

Damn it's not lack of electrolytes its lack of erm , food

Day one less than 1000 cals

Day 2 less than 1000 cals

Day 3 less than 1000 cals

Also not one day did you have over 60 -70 g protein you should be double that

Look your trying for rapid fat loss

Stop it

Get my fitness pal

Eat approx 1700 cals or 400 less than your maintaining value I guess 22 ish

Eat 30 35 35

Carb fat protein

Stop the keto you dont understand it or yourself

Fat loss is intelligent and long term

Dont (run) with keto until you understand and can (walk) a balanced consistent fat loss

I practice and understand keto but it's not for you yet "

yep your dead right pal ! Am using keto but not the correct way ! Am cutting out the carbs but not eating enough as I was aiming for 2 weeks lose a stone then be more sensible, I’ve got a fit bit (22,000 steps a day) and I did use my fitness pal until they changed the set up a while back

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"

Id agree you are eating far too little.

If you really want to stay on kete download an app like MyFitnessPal or carb counter and do your macros properly.

Everyone is different, I stay between 1600 and 1800 cals per day eating around 20g carb, 90-100g protein and 100g max fat.

You really need to plan your meals, otherwise you might do more damage than good. I researched for months before starting.

There are loads of recipies on pintrest and youtube.

20 g carb = 80 cal

100 g protein = 400 cal

100 g fat = 900 cal

Hmm You advise 1380 cals

And let's note that although a gram of protein gives a so called 4 cals it is the least efficient consuming the most energy in its metabolism and being used directly for repair and not fuel

Stop attempting keto

Eat approx 100 -140 g carb

130 g pro

And 90 g fat

Achieve maintain and

Learn from this balance then slowly lower your carb or fats as you need to

Thanks

"

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By *ensualtouch15Man  over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"Hmm all this advice

All suggestions of adding minerals and yet

The ONLY data we have is he is low on energy

I'd at least want a diary of three days food and fluids ??? To make ANY assumptions about his nutritional deficiencies

Definitely have a point !

Day one

Scrambled egg 2 rashers of bacon

Chicken fillet with salad

Day 2

Omelette

Turkey and avocado salad

Day 3

Beef patty and homemade almond/coconut muffin

Am drinking plenty of water ! Oh and am a dry liner so physical work

Damn it's not lack of electrolytes its lack of erm , food

Day one less than 1000 cals

Day 2 less than 1000 cals

Day 3 less than 1000 cals

Also not one day did you have over 60 -70 g protein you should be double that

Look your trying for rapid fat loss

Stop it

Get my fitness pal

Eat approx 1700 cals or 400 less than your maintaining value I guess 22 ish

Eat 30 35 35

Carb fat protein

Stop the keto you dont understand it or yourself

Fat loss is intelligent and long term

Dont (run) with keto until you understand and can (walk) a balanced consistent fat loss

I practice and understand keto but it's not for you yet yep your dead right pal ! Am using keto but not the correct way ! Am cutting out the carbs but not eating enough as I was aiming for 2 weeks lose a stone then be more sensible, I’ve got a fit bit (22,000 steps a day) and I did use my fitness pal until they changed the set up a while back "

7 kg in 2 weeks is not sensible

Your body can hold approx 400 g carb as glycogen this increases to 1600 + g as 1 gram carb bonds to 3 or 4 g water

So simply cutting carb will lower your weight

But I assume you wish to burn fat and not muscle

500 cal deficit perday equals 3500 per week or 500 g fat

Increase your deficit by more and without careful training and diet techniques you will lose muscle that's not good as your bmr( bazel met rate) will drop

Now carb management will effect insulin and adjust fat management and muscle insulin sensitivity but not by the numbers you want and you need to understand yourself and the subtleties

Fat loss is best slow over time and honestly much more than the initial 2k glycogen and 700 g per week fat is most likely muscle or even bone loss

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By *ick_and_BickerCouple  over a year ago

Nottingham

11 years of keto her and almost a year of carnivore.

Eat. Go to dietdoctor.com

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Did this last year, stuck at it for 5 months, went from 13.5 to 11 stone. Lost far too much became very addictive it works, but I looked like shit. Had always gone to gym etc. But after a crash had piled on weight. As a quick fix I’d do it , I guess I could try maintain a weight but was so addictive I was trying to lose all time

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