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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"In England in 2017, there were 5,843 alcohol-specific deaths. The number of deaths is 6% higher than 2016 and an increase of 16% on 2007. The alcohol-specific age-standardised death rates per 100,000 population were 15.0 for males in 2017 which is over twice the rate for females (7.4)."
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My question is, would now be a good time to ban alcohol completely or does tax revenue matter more than lives?  |
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""In England in 2017, there were 5,843 alcohol-specific deaths. The number of deaths is 6% higher than 2016 and an increase of 16% on 2007. The alcohol-specific age-standardised death rates per 100,000 population were 15.0 for males in 2017 which is over twice the rate for females (7.4)."
Source- NHS Website
My question is, would now be a good time to ban alcohol completely or does tax revenue matter more than lives? "
why not ban everything that’s bad for us ? Moderation is the key  |
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"I'll drink to that 
Bottoms up! "
In the last 6 months my stress levels have been through the roof (work) it's been a choice of 2 evils at times, sleeping tablets or a couple of large gins?
It is scarey how quickly you can become reliant on it tho... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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""In England in 2017, there were 5,843 alcohol-specific deaths. The number of deaths is 6% higher than 2016 and an increase of 16% on 2007. The alcohol-specific age-standardised death rates per 100,000 population were 15.0 for males in 2017 which is over twice the rate for females (7.4)."
Source- NHS Website
My question is, would now be a good time to ban alcohol completely or does tax revenue matter more than lives? "
Serious answer...
Prohibition happened and didnt work.
Banning alcohol isnt an answer.
People drink for a reason, it's a go to. Take that away, then what? They go to harder things.
Better education on it and better services for people is the way forward.
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"That brings me to second question, why all the hoo haa then, when it comes to other banned substances?  "
probably the hoo haa is some are legal and some aren’t and some do love to get on the soap boxes and tell others who partake in drug taking how bad humans they are |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"That brings me to second question, why all the hoo haa then, when it comes to other banned substances? probably the hoo haa is some are legal and some aren’t and some do love to get on the soap boxes and tell others who partake in drug taking how bad humans they are "
I think you're right. Maybe we need to ban soap boxes instead  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Drugs are illegal yet people still die from taking them ban alcohol people will turn to illegal bootleggers that will only sell poison, like tobacco the tax will play a major part in it being legal.
Kids need better education on the effects of alcoholism and how to enjoy alcohol without seeing it as a must have.
And from a selfish point of view why should alcohol be banned just because some people can’t control themselves. When minimum pricing was introduced in Scotland I was against it but I’ve honestly not noticed a change in my drinking habits as the drinks that were being targeted aren’t something I’d drink. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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""In England in 2017, there were 5,843 alcohol-specific deaths. The number of deaths is 6% higher than 2016 and an increase of 16% on 2007. The alcohol-specific age-standardised death rates per 100,000 population were 15.0 for males in 2017 which is over twice the rate for females (7.4)."
Source- NHS Website
My question is, would now be a good time to ban alcohol completely or does tax revenue matter more than lives? why not ban everything that’s bad for us ? Moderation is the key "
This  . Just be responsible. Fed up of everyone else having to suffer because of other people. I like a drink every now and then. Why should I suffer? Ridiculous idea |
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"That brings me to second question, why all the hoo haa then, when it comes to other banned substances?
The other thread got removed. "
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I cannot imagine that would even be vaguely feasible to ban it. There would be virtually no public support for it. Politicians won't outlaw it when they themselves drink. The police have enough to do and wouldn't support it. It would kill a lot of jobs and lead to the bankruptcy of pubs and companies all over the country. People would brew their own or smuggle it into the country. The Treasury would lose a ton of revenue. The vast majority of people don't have alcohol problems anyway.
Regardless of whether people should drink or not (and I don't drink), the idea of banning it is a total non-starter. |
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By *rctopusMan
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"Prohibition happened and didnt work."
Prohibition is the biggest lesson in history that no-one learned from. It turned organised crime from a rabble of racketeers and pimps into the biggest growth industry of the inter-war period, indeed the only industry that thrived in the Depression.
Rather than learning from that, there was the War on Drugs, which created the same pattern again. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Prohibition happened and didnt work.
Prohibition is the biggest lesson in history that no-one learned from. It turned organised crime from a rabble of racketeers and pimps into the biggest growth industry of the inter-war period, indeed the only industry that thrived in the Depression.
Rather than learning from that, there was the War on Drugs, which created the same pattern again."
Yeah, prohibition is the reason there are so many banned substances on the streets of the UK. But that's a totally different topic and one that usually gets deleted on the forums. But imagine the jobs, revenue and crime rate figures if some were made legal? But like someone else said, soap boxes and all that.  |
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Let adults be responsible for at least 1 thing, their body. Who they have sex with, what sex, consumption and if they euthanise.
State control of people and illicit substances has a poor track record.
Alcohol is part of our evolutionary history and can be enjoyed by millions. I don't see more of a totalitarian state as the answer for the future. Cigarettes will probably disappear first. |
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Basically if you're lazy and/or have no self control, you're gonna kill yourself with what you choose to put inside you,and how long you spend sat on your ass. Change your life, or accept your fate. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Basically if you're lazy and/or have no self control, you're gonna kill yourself with what you choose to put inside you,and how long you spend sat on your ass. Change your life, or accept your fate."
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By (user no longer on site)
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No OP, there are millions of responsible drinkers and I would suggest that those that struggle with alcohol should continue to receive the help we all currently give them by way of the NHS etc.. Cheers |
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By (user no longer on site)
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How much alcohol does it take to kill you ?
I have done some pretty crazy drinking sessions
I have drank 23 pints in the pub
I drank 48 bottles of budwiser at session up the bowls according to witnesses
I drank half a litter of Jack Daniels in a oner according to may dad at new year once
and I have drank a pint of vodka once at a party at college in a race
I have also drank 4 bottles of buckfast in a day
apparently I'm also related to a guy called the d*unken highlander
so I must be the d*unken Lowlander  |
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