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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
Court of Appeal have ruled that a Sharia marriage that happened in a restaurant was not a marriage because it was not an official premises, not carried out by a licenced person and not on the superintendent register (in layman's terms) This means she is not entitled to divorce law protection in terms of financial settlement etc..
Victory for the law or not a victory for common sense?
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By *omnlynneCouple
over a year ago
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its merely a case of the law is the law if your marriage wasn't legal regardless of religion then a divorce of said marriage cannot be legal either all the court of appeal has done is uphold the law as it stands sharia courts in Islam or any other religious courts should not be exempt for the law of the land its that simple |
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Doesn't offer the woman much protection though, does it. She could be cast out on the streets if the "husband" wanted to do so and she'd have no redress. Bear in mind women might have come to this country to marry, may not speak English well. I hope these things have been considered, if they apply. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The court upheld are law Sharia is not recognized here which is correct it's the lady I feel for no doubt she will be chucked out I believe the law should now check what the said husband will do and check she was here of her free will . |
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Apparently it’s quiet common - the men promise to follow up with a legal civil ceremony but then never do. I really feel for the women, they must feel trapped. And as for the men, well this behaviour disgusts me. In this case they have 4 children & if I’m right he doesn't have to pay maintenance. He should be ashamed of himself
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"Apparently it’s quiet common - the men promise to follow up with a legal civil ceremony but then never do. I really feel for the women, they must feel trapped. And as for the men, well this behaviour disgusts me. In this case they have 4 children & if I’m right he doesn't have to pay maintenance. He should be ashamed of himself
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You see, this is what pisses me right off. More than likely the lady has either taken significant time off work to raise the children or is a stay at home mum. How is she supposed to house, feed, clothe etc her kids? And before anyone says "CSA" it doesn't exist anymore. The directive is to make your own private arrangements. Which I'm sure the "husband" would be keen to do. Not. This is not a victory for women and children's rights. |
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"its merely a case of the law is the law if your marriage wasn't legal regardless of religion then a divorce of said marriage cannot be legal either all the court of appeal has done is uphold the law as it stands sharia courts in Islam or any other religious courts should not be exempt for the law of the land its that simple "
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By *HaRiFMan
over a year ago
Beyond the shadows. |
"Court of Appeal have ruled that a Sharia marriage that happened in a restaurant was not a marriage because it was not an official premises, not carried out by a licenced person and not on the superintendent register (in layman's terms) This means she is not entitled to divorce law protection in terms of financial settlement etc..
Victory for the law or not a victory for common sense?
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Although people refer to it as Sharia law it isn’t actually law. She seemed like a cleaver women she should know better. |
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I don't think anyone is suggesting that Sharia law should be accepted in British courts, but many are justifiably concerned at the consequences for a woman with 4 kids who may be left with nothing. I don't care what religion or background people are from; I care about people. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The actual marriage in islam is very simple given that everyone is consenting. Forced marriages are a different topic and have no place in Islam. Sadly many south asian cultural traditions (which are not right) get confused with religion and of course the leaders in them countries twist the religion to fit their culture.
Many registries and officials are happy to attend a mosque or venue to officiate the marriage.
The issue is, as someone has said previously, that the families need to ensure they are getting legally married. I’ve never heard of men getting married (religious ceremony) and then not following through with at the registry. But I am sure there will be men out there who do it.
As has been said previously we do not live under sharia law. And what that also means is the men getting married religiously, have no sharia court or punishment system when they leave their wives in shit situations. So they end up being able to do whatever the fuck they want. And then due to the cultural norms and the woman is looked at as if it is all her fault.
It’s a complex situation and the responsibility is on both parties to make sure they’ve covered their backs. Arranged marriages can work out very happily but the whole approach is different than to a love marriage.
Like many of these debates it really comes down to a case by case review. |
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"The actual marriage in islam is very simple given that everyone is consenting. Forced marriages are a different topic and have no place in Islam. Sadly many south asian cultural traditions (which are not right) get confused with religion and of course the leaders in them countries twist the religion to fit their culture.
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Thank you.
You are spot on.
The problem is most people look at these South Asians and some African countries as the standard of the religion. |
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"Sharia marriage is kind of wrong in the sense that the woman have no rights or say of who they will get married too."
Where did you get that from?
None of my sisters, nieces, cousins have to undergo that what you said. |
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