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"What's scary is the level of panic some are going to - there have been around 35000 confirmed cases globally (the overwhelming majority in China) which is minuscule in percentage terms compared to the overall population by comparison to other viruses. Yes it's obviously a concern and needs to be, and is being, contained as far as it can be but in the greater scheme of things is it a threat to humanity on a widespread scale worthy of panic? Not for me it's not." Provides a nice distraction though doesn't it | |||
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"It arrived with a bulk order of watermelons I heard " What?? How could/would it be carried in such a way? | |||
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"Oh great! Guess where I’m going next week! " Brighton? | |||
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"It arrived with a bulk order of watermelons I heard What?? How could/would it be carried in such a way?" The Bearded one | |||
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"It arrived with a bulk order of watermelons I heard What?? How could/would it be carried in such a way? The Bearded one" Fabulous and Bearded is spreading it? | |||
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"A guy tested positive in Brighton during the week. Admittedly the coast of France is probably a bit closer to us than Brighton but we're not particularly worried about either location. That is because we have taped raw onion to the soles of our feet "  | |||
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"Coronavirus is actually what the start of a cold is named. And its origins. The cold then develops in lot pneumonia and then occasionally a new strain of pneumonia is created. One was SARS, the other Mars. SARS has infected around 0.02% of the population and Mars about the same. The people dying are because of lack of proper medication, in countries that are either 'third world' or like China who have no basic human rights as a nation. Dont worry. We ain't gonna die. We have excellent medical equipment and know how to deal with a new strain of pneumonia. Just be careful around children and elderly, just like any flu bug. " Is there a medication for it? I thought they were working on it... It they have cancelled the F1 with all that revenue lost then there must be a huge risk. I wonder if behind closed doors the drivers union and pit crews were uneasy | |||
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"A guy tested positive in Brighton during the week. Admittedly the coast of France is probably a bit closer to us than Brighton but we're not particularly worried about either location. That is because we have taped raw onion to the soles of our feet " I hope you're sleeping with a potato under the pillow for added protection?  | |||
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"Coronavirus is actually what the start of a cold is named. And its origins. The cold then develops in lot pneumonia and then occasionally a new strain of pneumonia is created. One was SARS, the other Mars. SARS has infected around 0.02% of the population and Mars about the same. The people dying are because of lack of proper medication, in countries that are either 'third world' or like China who have no basic human rights as a nation. Dont worry. We ain't gonna die. We have excellent medical equipment and know how to deal with a new strain of pneumonia. Just be careful around children and elderly, just like any flu bug. Is there a medication for it? I thought they were working on it... It they have cancelled the F1 with all that revenue lost then there must be a huge risk. I wonder if behind closed doors the drivers union and pit crews were uneasy" Of course there's medication for it. You do know it has nowhere near a 100% fatality rate. | |||
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"A guy tested positive in Brighton during the week. Admittedly the coast of France is probably a bit closer to us than Brighton but we're not particularly worried about either location. That is because we have taped raw onion to the soles of our feet I hope you're sleeping with a potato under the pillow for added protection? "Natch!  | |||
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" It they have cancelled the F1 with all that revenue lost then there must be a huge risk. I wonder if behind closed doors the drivers union and pit crews were uneasy" They've just taken a sensible precaution as a preventative measure that all ties into the overall containment process - China is obviously the highest risk area for it, so it's a logical step to avoid it simple as that. | |||
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"Coronavirus is actually what the start of a cold is named. And its origins. The cold then develops in lot pneumonia and then occasionally a new strain of pneumonia is created. One was SARS, the other Mars. SARS has infected around 0.02% of the population and Mars about the same. The people dying are because of lack of proper medication, in countries that are either 'third world' or like China who have no basic human rights as a nation. Dont worry. We ain't gonna die. We have excellent medical equipment and know how to deal with a new strain of pneumonia. Just be careful around children and elderly, just like any flu bug. Is there a medication for it? I thought they were working on it... It they have cancelled the F1 with all that revenue lost then there must be a huge risk. I wonder if behind closed doors the drivers union and pit crews were uneasy" I was listening to a virologist (I think that's the word) on the radio who is involved in developing a vaccine. She said that the earliest one would be available is the summer. | |||
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"Spome of these old remedies and old wives tales have merit. They use leeches in medicine again and maggots. I saw a programme explaining why you are more likely to catch a virus if you go out with wet hair.. it's true." My grandmother who was in her late 90s when she died always had half an onion under her bed to ward off colds. I don't know if it was that of sheer cussedness that helped her live so long | |||
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"Coronavirus is actually what the start of a cold is named. And its origins. The cold then develops in lot pneumonia and then occasionally a new strain of pneumonia is created. One was SARS, the other Mars. SARS has infected around 0.02% of the population and Mars about the same. The people dying are because of lack of proper medication, in countries that are either 'third world' or like China who have no basic human rights as a nation. Dont worry. We ain't gonna die. We have excellent medical equipment and know how to deal with a new strain of pneumonia. Just be careful around children and elderly, just like any flu bug. Is there a medication for it? I thought they were working on it... It they have cancelled the F1 with all that revenue lost then there must be a huge risk. I wonder if behind closed doors the drivers union and pit crews were uneasy I was listening to a virologist (I think that's the word) on the radio who is involved in developing a vaccine. She said that the earliest one would be available is the summer." I don't pretend to know much but this one could mutate quickly making the vaccine ineffective.. some say it originated in animals and is jumping species so could get even nastier | |||
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"It arrived with a bulk order of watermelons I heard " I've been sleeping with a watermelon between my thighs but now I'm worried that might be making it worse. | |||
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"A guy tested positive in Brighton during the week. Admittedly the coast of France is probably a bit closer to us than Brighton but we're not particularly worried about either location. That is because we have taped raw onion to the soles of our feet " ahhhh are you struggling to get a meet eee awww eeee awww eee awwww comment t'allez vous | |||
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"Coronavirus is actually what the start of a cold is named. And its origins. The cold then develops in lot pneumonia and then occasionally a new strain of pneumonia is created. One was SARS, the other Mars. SARS has infected around 0.02% of the population and Mars about the same. The people dying are because of lack of proper medication, in countries that are either 'third world' or like China who have no basic human rights as a nation. Dont worry. We ain't gonna die. We have excellent medical equipment and know how to deal with a new strain of pneumonia. Just be careful around children and elderly, just like any flu bug. Is there a medication for it? I thought they were working on it... It they have cancelled the F1 with all that revenue lost then there must be a huge risk. I wonder if behind closed doors the drivers union and pit crews were uneasy I was listening to a virologist (I think that's the word) on the radio who is involved in developing a vaccine. She said that the earliest one would be available is the summer. I don't pretend to know much but this one could mutate quickly making the vaccine ineffective.. some say it originated in animals and is jumping species so could get even nastier " This sounds more like the plot line to a shit film rather than anything based in actual science | |||
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"Coronavirus is actually what the start of a cold is named. And its origins. The cold then develops in lot pneumonia and then occasionally a new strain of pneumonia is created. One was SARS, the other Mars. SARS has infected around 0.02% of the population and Mars about the same. The people dying are because of lack of proper medication, in countries that are either 'third world' or like China who have no basic human rights as a nation. Dont worry. We ain't gonna die. We have excellent medical equipment and know how to deal with a new strain of pneumonia. Just be careful around children and elderly, just like any flu bug. Is there a medication for it? I thought they were working on it... It they have cancelled the F1 with all that revenue lost then there must be a huge risk. I wonder if behind closed doors the drivers union and pit crews were uneasy I was listening to a virologist (I think that's the word) on the radio who is involved in developing a vaccine. She said that the earliest one would be available is the summer. I don't pretend to know much but this one could mutate quickly making the vaccine ineffective.. some say it originated in animals and is jumping species so could get even nastier " I only know what I've read and heard on the radio. I have no idea of the truth behind its origin and how it's spread. I suspect that not many do. I genuinely don't think there's much is ordinary people can do but keep ourselves sensibly informed and take reasonable precautions e.g. hand washing. I have close family in asia, I'm not overly concerned for them but I'm more so about them than us. | |||
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"I heard that in hotels the salad bar is the biggest risk for bacteria breeding.. it's possible that melon on a breakfast bar could harbour the virus but think the watermelon is a red herring " I don’t ever eat from a salad bar. They’re full of germs. | |||
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"A guy tested positive in Brighton during the week. Admittedly the coast of France is probably a bit closer to us than Brighton but we're not particularly worried about either location. That is because we have taped raw onion to the soles of our feet ahhhh are you struggling to get a meet eee awww eeee awww eee awwww comment t'allez vous "Yes do you think it's because the whiff of raw onion follows us around? | |||
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"I heard that in hotels the salad bar is the biggest risk for bacteria breeding.. it's possible that melon on a breakfast bar could harbour the virus but think the watermelon is a red herring I don’t ever eat from a salad bar. They’re full of germs. " Oh god! I'm always eating from salad bars on holiday | |||
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"I heard that in hotels the salad bar is the biggest risk for bacteria breeding.. it's possible that melon on a breakfast bar could harbour the virus but think the watermelon is a red herring I don’t ever eat from a salad bar. They’re full of germs. Oh god! I'm always eating from salad bars on holiday "I’m just thinking of normal every day germs ... you know, from people not washing their hands etc  | |||
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"What's scary is the level of panic some are going to - there have been around 35000 confirmed cases globally (the overwhelming majority in China) which is minuscule in percentage terms compared to the overall population by comparison to other viruses. Yes it's obviously a concern and needs to be, and is being, contained as far as it can be but in the greater scheme of things is it a threat to humanity on a widespread scale worthy of panic? Not for me it's not." 'The CDC reports 110 million people die every year as a direct result of stress'. So, yeah, I ain't worrying about it. It's 2020, make it a meme and it will go away. | |||
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"I heard that in hotels the salad bar is the biggest risk for bacteria breeding.. it's possible that melon on a breakfast bar could harbour the virus but think the watermelon is a red herring I don’t ever eat from a salad bar. They’re full of germs. Oh god! I'm always eating from salad bars on holiday
I’m just thinking of normal every day germs ... you know, from people not washing their hands etc "I am not sure that washing hands is not another red herring. I read that it's people not drying them properly after washing them that is s bigger problem. Apparently if you don't wash your hands properly and then use one of those high speed air dryers it just launched millions of tiny bacteria into the air to be breathed it by other people... | |||
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"I heard that in hotels the salad bar is the biggest risk for bacteria breeding.. it's possible that melon on a breakfast bar could harbour the virus but think the watermelon is a red herring I don’t ever eat from a salad bar. They’re full of germs. Oh god! I'm always eating from salad bars on holiday
I’m just thinking of normal every day germs ... you know, from people not washing their hands etc
I am not sure that washing hands is not another red herring. I read that it's people not drying them properly after washing them that is s bigger problem. Apparently if you don't wash your hands properly and then use one of those high speed air dryers it just launched millions of tiny bacteria into the air to be breathed it by other people... ", We're all doomed | |||
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"I heard that in hotels the salad bar is the biggest risk for bacteria breeding.. it's possible that melon on a breakfast bar could harbour the virus but think the watermelon is a red herring I don’t ever eat from a salad bar. They’re full of germs. Oh god! I'm always eating from salad bars on holiday
I’m just thinking of normal every day germs ... you know, from people not washing their hands etc
I am not sure that washing hands is not another red herring. I read that it's people not drying them properly after washing them that is s bigger problem. Apparently if you don't wash your hands properly and then use one of those high speed air dryers it just launched millions of tiny bacteria into the air to be breathed it by other people... "A healthy human who has built resistance through being exposed to bacteria since birth has a pretty good immune system. Obviously I don't know about our resistance to this particular strain of coronavirus but as far as ordinary every day risks go, most of us are ok with normal thorough hand washing . | |||
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"I heard that in hotels the salad bar is the biggest risk for bacteria breeding.. it's possible that melon on a breakfast bar could harbour the virus but think the watermelon is a red herring I don’t ever eat from a salad bar. They’re full of germs. Oh god! I'm always eating from salad bars on holiday
I’m just thinking of normal every day germs ... you know, from people not washing their hands etc "Yeah, I've lived this long eating from salad bars, I'm not going to stop now. I ate street food in rural India in the late 70s. I was ill for a month, I reckon I built immunity to every stomach bug known to man in that time | |||
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"I heard that in hotels the salad bar is the biggest risk for bacteria breeding.. it's possible that melon on a breakfast bar could harbour the virus but think the watermelon is a red herring I don’t ever eat from a salad bar. They’re full of germs. Oh god! I'm always eating from salad bars on holiday
I’m just thinking of normal every day germs ... you know, from people not washing their hands etc
I am not sure that washing hands is not another red herring. I read that it's people not drying them properly after washing them that is s bigger problem. Apparently if you don't wash your hands properly and then use one of those high speed air dryers it just launched millions of tiny bacteria into the air to be breathed it by other people...
A healthy human who has built resistance through being exposed to bacteria since birth has a pretty good immune system. Obviously I don't know about our resistance to this particular strain of coronavirus but as far as ordinary every day risks go, most of us are ok with normal thorough hand washing ."The virus itself doesn't really kill. It just sets up your immune system to be potentially weak enough for something else to do so, pneumonia for example. In the case of most healthy adults it's not going to do enough to weaken your immune system enough, but it will weaken/but strain on it. The very young, the elderly, and those with already compromised immune systems are those at risk because of it. | |||
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"I heard that in hotels the salad bar is the biggest risk for bacteria breeding.. it's possible that melon on a breakfast bar could harbour the virus but think the watermelon is a red herring I don’t ever eat from a salad bar. They’re full of germs. Oh god! I'm always eating from salad bars on holiday
I’m just thinking of normal every day germs ... you know, from people not washing their hands etc
Yeah, I've lived this long eating from salad bars, I'm not going to stop now.
I ate street food in rural India in the late 70s. I was ill for a month, I reckon I built immunity to every stomach bug known to man in that time "You must have the constitution of an ox
I’m just generally scared of germs, any germs, so don’t listen to me | |||
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"Could this have escaped from a chemical weapon lab developed by the military ?" See Bike Monkey's earlier post about plots of bad films | |||
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"I heard that in hotels the salad bar is the biggest risk for bacteria breeding.. it's possible that melon on a breakfast bar could harbour the virus but think the watermelon is a red herring I don’t ever eat from a salad bar. They’re full of germs. Oh god! I'm always eating from salad bars on holiday
I’m just thinking of normal every day germs ... you know, from people not washing their hands etc
I am not sure that washing hands is not another red herring. I read that it's people not drying them properly after washing them that is s bigger problem. Apparently if you don't wash your hands properly and then use one of those high speed air dryers it just launched millions of tiny bacteria into the air to be breathed it by other people... ,
We're all doomed "Doomed I say! | |||
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"Could this have escaped from a chemical weapon lab developed by the military ? See Bike Monkey's earlier post about plots of bad films " I am pretty sure it happened with killer wasps escaping from a lab in Brazil one time | |||
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"I heard that in hotels the salad bar is the biggest risk for bacteria breeding.. it's possible that melon on a breakfast bar could harbour the virus but think the watermelon is a red herring I don’t ever eat from a salad bar. They’re full of germs. Oh god! I'm always eating from salad bars on holiday
I’m just thinking of normal every day germs ... you know, from people not washing their hands etc
I am not sure that washing hands is not another red herring. I read that it's people not drying them properly after washing them that is s bigger problem. Apparently if you don't wash your hands properly and then use one of those high speed air dryers it just launched millions of tiny bacteria into the air to be breathed it by other people... ,
We're all doomed
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"OMG we’re in Thailand now and I’ve been eating watermelon every day ‘cause somebody said it was natures viagra!" doomed | |||
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"Don't eat the bar snacks the peanuts are covered in pee and poo. "And definitely never handle money - a study found that 80% of British banknotes show traces of drugs and it's even thought that banknotes can even help pass on Hepatitis-C in drug users It's the end of the world as we know it.... ...and I feel fine | |||
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"Don't eat the bar snacks the peanuts are covered in pee and poo.
And definitely never handle money - a study found that 80% of British banknotes show traces of drugs and it's even thought that banknotes can even help pass on Hepatitis-C in drug users
It's the end of the world as we know it....
...and I feel fine "I read about that.. I wonder if the plastic polymer notes are safer than the old paper ones.. | |||
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"Don't eat the bar snacks the peanuts are covered in pee and poo.
And definitely never handle money - a study found that 80% of British banknotes show traces of drugs and it's even thought that banknotes can even help pass on Hepatitis-C in drug users
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...and I feel fine " | |||
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"Don't eat the bar snacks the peanuts are covered in pee and poo.
And definitely never handle money - a study found that 80% of British banknotes show traces of drugs and it's even thought that banknotes can even help pass on Hepatitis-C in drug users
It's the end of the world as we know it....
...and I feel fine
I read about that.. I wonder if the plastic polymer notes are safer than the old paper ones.."I doubt it | |||
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"Don't eat the bar snacks the peanuts are covered in pee and poo.
And definitely never handle money - a study found that 80% of British banknotes show traces of drugs and it's even thought that banknotes can even help pass on Hepatitis-C in drug users
It's the end of the world as we know it....
...and I feel fine "That's great, it starts with an earthquake Birds and snakes, and aeroplanes... Ah man it is all in my head now | |||
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"Don't eat the bar snacks the peanuts are covered in pee and poo.
And definitely never handle money - a study found that 80% of British banknotes show traces of drugs and it's even thought that banknotes can even help pass on Hepatitis-C in drug users
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...and I feel fine "Bank notes are covered in drugs! My accountant told me that. Have you ever smelt notes?  | |||
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"If I scoop up bar snack peanuts on a bank note might the dangers cancel each other out ?" Hmmm.... | |||
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"If I scoop up bar snack peanuts on a bank note might the dangers cancel each other out ?" Are you mad? Get yourself to the nearest GUM clinic immediately!! | |||
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"Don't eat the bar snacks the peanuts are covered in pee and poo.
And definitely never handle money - a study found that 80% of British banknotes show traces of drugs and it's even thought that banknotes can even help pass on Hepatitis-C in drug users
It's the end of the world as we know it....
...and I feel fine
Bank notes are covered in drugs! My accountant told me that. Have you ever smelt notes? "Yes! | |||
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"Don't eat the bar snacks the peanuts are covered in pee and poo.
And definitely never handle money - a study found that 80% of British banknotes show traces of drugs and it's even thought that banknotes can even help pass on Hepatitis-C in drug users
It's the end of the world as we know it....
...and I feel fine
Bank notes are covered in drugs! My accountant told me that. Have you ever smelt notes?
Yes!"Such a bad smell. | |||
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"I don't think people's fears should be dismissed though. It's normal to be concerned over the unknown and some of the (unverified) stuff coming out of China is quite shocking. " Oh I agree - but also think there's a balance to be found between rational and logical thinking and widescale panic too. | |||
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"I don't think people's fears should be dismissed though. It's normal to be concerned over the unknown and some of the (unverified) stuff coming out of China is quite shocking. " I agree  | |||
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"I don't think people's fears should be dismissed though. It's normal to be concerned over the unknown and some of the (unverified) stuff coming out of China is quite shocking. " When there is enough evidence and information outside of the shock and grab scaremongering media but they are too lazy to check. Fear and concern are two different things. Those who are using logic are just as concerned, they just use common sense and that logic to not be fearful over something that is not worthing fearing. People are freaking out and worrying solely based on the media provided fear machine. Majority of the time fears are not dismissed, they are proven to be pointless, when provided with actual evidence and logic they are still fearful so it reaches a point that the only thing you can do is dismiss their fear because they don't see reason. | |||
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"I don't think people's fears should be dismissed though. It's normal to be concerned over the unknown and some of the (unverified) stuff coming out of China is quite shocking. Oh I agree - but also think there's a balance to be found between rational and logical thinking and widescale panic too." I don’t think it’s wide scale. I think it’s isolated pockets. I’m my own isolated pocket | |||
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"I don't think people's fears should be dismissed though. It's normal to be concerned over the unknown and some of the (unverified) stuff coming out of China is quite shocking. When there is enough evidence and information outside of the shock and grab scaremongering media but they are too lazy to check. Fear and concern are two different things. Those who are using logic are just as concerned, they just use common sense and that logic to not be fearful over something that is not worthing fearing. People are freaking out and worrying solely based on the media provided fear machine. Majority of the time fears are not dismissed, they are proven to be pointless, when provided with actual evidence and logic they are still fearful so it reaches a point that the only thing you can do is dismiss their fear because they don't see reason. " But it is worth fearing to some people, just like flu. If you have a weakened immune system you worry about these things. | |||
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"I don't think people's fears should be dismissed though. It's normal to be concerned over the unknown and some of the (unverified) stuff coming out of China is quite shocking. When there is enough evidence and information outside of the shock and grab scaremongering media but they are too lazy to check. Fear and concern are two different things. Those who are using logic are just as concerned, they just use common sense and that logic to not be fearful over something that is not worthing fearing. People are freaking out and worrying solely based on the media provided fear machine. Majority of the time fears are not dismissed, they are proven to be pointless, when provided with actual evidence and logic they are still fearful so it reaches a point that the only thing you can do is dismiss their fear because they don't see reason. " People who don't worry about the virus are not immune to its threat. I remember seeing people on the news who were not worried about violent storms, walking on sea walls getting swept into the sea.. those who did worry watched from the high ground and were perfectly safe. Fear can save lives | |||
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"I don't think people's fears should be dismissed though. It's normal to be concerned over the unknown and some of the (unverified) stuff coming out of China is quite shocking. When there is enough evidence and information outside of the shock and grab scaremongering media but they are too lazy to check. Fear and concern are two different things. Those who are using logic are just as concerned, they just use common sense and that logic to not be fearful over something that is not worthing fearing. People are freaking out and worrying solely based on the media provided fear machine. Majority of the time fears are not dismissed, they are proven to be pointless, when provided with actual evidence and logic they are still fearful so it reaches a point that the only thing you can do is dismiss their fear because they don't see reason. But it is worth fearing to some people, just like flu. If you have a weakened immune system you worry about these things. " Yes obviously but a large scale panic does not happen over the flu like it is with this. In this country, regardless of the state of the NHS, the health care and human rights, and just straight up density of the population (except maybe London, good luck guys!) all point towards very little to fear, even for those with weakened immune systems. China on the other hand is not even close to our quality of health care and quality of living (as a whole), they have next to no human rights, and the population is immense - plus it was the country of origin. Its going to appear like the next bubonic plague in that case. | |||
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"I don't think people's fears should be dismissed though. It's normal to be concerned over the unknown and some of the (unverified) stuff coming out of China is quite shocking. When there is enough evidence and information outside of the shock and grab scaremongering media but they are too lazy to check. Fear and concern are two different things. Those who are using logic are just as concerned, they just use common sense and that logic to not be fearful over something that is not worthing fearing. People are freaking out and worrying solely based on the media provided fear machine. Majority of the time fears are not dismissed, they are proven to be pointless, when provided with actual evidence and logic they are still fearful so it reaches a point that the only thing you can do is dismiss their fear because they don't see reason. But it is worth fearing to some people, just like flu. If you have a weakened immune system you worry about these things. Yes obviously but a large scale panic does not happen over the flu like it is with this. In this country, regardless of the state of the NHS, the health care and human rights, and just straight up density of the population (except maybe London, good luck guys!) all point towards very little to fear, even for those with weakened immune systems. China on the other hand is not even close to our quality of health care and quality of living (as a whole), they have next to no human rights, and the population is immense - plus it was the country of origin. Its going to appear like the next bubonic plague in that case." Not sure what human rights has to do with it ? | |||
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"I don't think people's fears should be dismissed though. It's normal to be concerned over the unknown and some of the (unverified) stuff coming out of China is quite shocking. When there is enough evidence and information outside of the shock and grab scaremongering media but they are too lazy to check. Fear and concern are two different things. Those who are using logic are just as concerned, they just use common sense and that logic to not be fearful over something that is not worthing fearing. People are freaking out and worrying solely based on the media provided fear machine. Majority of the time fears are not dismissed, they are proven to be pointless, when provided with actual evidence and logic they are still fearful so it reaches a point that the only thing you can do is dismiss their fear because they don't see reason. People who don't worry about the virus are not immune to its threat. I remember seeing people on the news who were not worried about violent storms, walking on sea walls getting swept into the sea.. those who did worry watched from the high ground and were perfectly safe. Fear can save lives " Your example is not lack of fear, its stupidity and lack of common sense. I'm not scared of violent storms but I respect them. Logic dictates go to high ground during floods and extreme coastal storms. Big difference. Yes fear saves lives, fear. Without it most living creatures would have died out long ago. However it is also a killer itself as fear leads to things like inaction or mass panic. Fear snowballs and becomes a burden. Caution, not fear, is what truely saves lives. I say this as somebody who actually has a weakened immune system. If I were in China or another poor health are country you are damn right I'd be scared and fearful. But I don't, I live in a high quality health care country with largely clean living so I enact caution because the overall risk is low. | |||
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"I don't think people's fears should be dismissed though. It's normal to be concerned over the unknown and some of the (unverified) stuff coming out of China is quite shocking. When there is enough evidence and information outside of the shock and grab scaremongering media but they are too lazy to check. Fear and concern are two different things. Those who are using logic are just as concerned, they just use common sense and that logic to not be fearful over something that is not worthing fearing. People are freaking out and worrying solely based on the media provided fear machine. Majority of the time fears are not dismissed, they are proven to be pointless, when provided with actual evidence and logic they are still fearful so it reaches a point that the only thing you can do is dismiss their fear because they don't see reason. But it is worth fearing to some people, just like flu. If you have a weakened immune system you worry about these things. Yes obviously but a large scale panic does not happen over the flu like it is with this. In this country, regardless of the state of the NHS, the health care and human rights, and just straight up density of the population (except maybe London, good luck guys!) all point towards very little to fear, even for those with weakened immune systems. China on the other hand is not even close to our quality of health care and quality of living (as a whole), they have next to no human rights, and the population is immense - plus it was the country of origin. Its going to appear like the next bubonic plague in that case. Not sure what human rights has to do with it ?" It has everything to do with it - from the authorities lack of action in respect to the common people, to them censuring those that are seeking to get something done about it - one of the first doctors to identify the virus and try to raise the alarm was arrested for trying to do so, and has since died as a result of having contracted the virus. | |||
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" I don’t think it’s wide scale. I think it’s isolated pockets. I’m my own isolated pocket "I hope there are no snotty tissues in your pocket. | |||
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"I don't think people's fears should be dismissed though. It's normal to be concerned over the unknown and some of the (unverified) stuff coming out of China is quite shocking. When there is enough evidence and information outside of the shock and grab scaremongering media but they are too lazy to check. Fear and concern are two different things. Those who are using logic are just as concerned, they just use common sense and that logic to not be fearful over something that is not worthing fearing. People are freaking out and worrying solely based on the media provided fear machine. Majority of the time fears are not dismissed, they are proven to be pointless, when provided with actual evidence and logic they are still fearful so it reaches a point that the only thing you can do is dismiss their fear because they don't see reason. But it is worth fearing to some people, just like flu. If you have a weakened immune system you worry about these things. Yes obviously but a large scale panic does not happen over the flu like it is with this. In this country, regardless of the state of the NHS, the health care and human rights, and just straight up density of the population (except maybe London, good luck guys!) all point towards very little to fear, even for those with weakened immune systems. China on the other hand is not even close to our quality of health care and quality of living (as a whole), they have next to no human rights, and the population is immense - plus it was the country of origin. Its going to appear like the next bubonic plague in that case. Not sure what human rights has to do with it ?" Human rights includes access and right to health care. A large number of the Chinese population don't have a right to any health care nevermind a decent quality health care. | |||
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"Could this have escaped from a chemical weapon lab developed by the military ?" Yes, if someone caught flu | |||
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"I don't think people's fears should be dismissed though. It's normal to be concerned over the unknown and some of the (unverified) stuff coming out of China is quite shocking. When there is enough evidence and information outside of the shock and grab scaremongering media but they are too lazy to check. Fear and concern are two different things. Those who are using logic are just as concerned, they just use common sense and that logic to not be fearful over something that is not worthing fearing. People are freaking out and worrying solely based on the media provided fear machine. Majority of the time fears are not dismissed, they are proven to be pointless, when provided with actual evidence and logic they are still fearful so it reaches a point that the only thing you can do is dismiss their fear because they don't see reason. But it is worth fearing to some people, just like flu. If you have a weakened immune system you worry about these things. Yes obviously but a large scale panic does not happen over the flu like it is with this. In this country, regardless of the state of the NHS, the health care and human rights, and just straight up density of the population (except maybe London, good luck guys!) all point towards very little to fear, even for those with weakened immune systems. China on the other hand is not even close to our quality of health care and quality of living (as a whole), they have next to no human rights, and the population is immense - plus it was the country of origin. Its going to appear like the next bubonic plague in that case. Not sure what human rights has to do with it ? It has everything to do with it - from the authorities lack of action in respect to the common people, to them censuring those that are seeking to get something done about it - one of the first doctors to identify the virus and try to raise the alarm was arrested for trying to do so, and has since died as a result of having contracted the virus." Do we know this is true..I only saw them building a hospital in a week and taking precautions to protect others. It could me propaganda, it may be not but I am wary of the propoganda of our government too and the Press.. | |||
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"I don't think people's fears should be dismissed though. It's normal to be concerned over the unknown and some of the (unverified) stuff coming out of China is quite shocking. When there is enough evidence and information outside of the shock and grab scaremongering media but they are too lazy to check. Fear and concern are two different things. Those who are using logic are just as concerned, they just use common sense and that logic to not be fearful over something that is not worthing fearing. People are freaking out and worrying solely based on the media provided fear machine. Majority of the time fears are not dismissed, they are proven to be pointless, when provided with actual evidence and logic they are still fearful so it reaches a point that the only thing you can do is dismiss their fear because they don't see reason. People who don't worry about the virus are not immune to its threat. I remember seeing people on the news who were not worried about violent storms, walking on sea walls getting swept into the sea.. those who did worry watched from the high ground and were perfectly safe. Fear can save lives " As an analogy I'm not sure you could have picked a worse one than that. | |||
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"I don't think people's fears should be dismissed though. It's normal to be concerned over the unknown and some of the (unverified) stuff coming out of China is quite shocking. When there is enough evidence and information outside of the shock and grab scaremongering media but they are too lazy to check. Fear and concern are two different things. Those who are using logic are just as concerned, they just use common sense and that logic to not be fearful over something that is not worthing fearing. People are freaking out and worrying solely based on the media provided fear machine. Majority of the time fears are not dismissed, they are proven to be pointless, when provided with actual evidence and logic they are still fearful so it reaches a point that the only thing you can do is dismiss their fear because they don't see reason. But it is worth fearing to some people, just like flu. If you have a weakened immune system you worry about these things. Yes obviously but a large scale panic does not happen over the flu like it is with this. In this country, regardless of the state of the NHS, the health care and human rights, and just straight up density of the population (except maybe London, good luck guys!) all point towards very little to fear, even for those with weakened immune systems. China on the other hand is not even close to our quality of health care and quality of living (as a whole), they have next to no human rights, and the population is immense - plus it was the country of origin. Its going to appear like the next bubonic plague in that case. Not sure what human rights has to do with it ? Human rights includes access and right to health care. A large number of the Chinese population don't have a right to any health care nevermind a decent quality health care. " Exactly.
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"I don't think people's fears should be dismissed though. It's normal to be concerned over the unknown and some of the (unverified) stuff coming out of China is quite shocking. When there is enough evidence and information outside of the shock and grab scaremongering media but they are too lazy to check. Fear and concern are two different things. Those who are using logic are just as concerned, they just use common sense and that logic to not be fearful over something that is not worthing fearing. People are freaking out and worrying solely based on the media provided fear machine. Majority of the time fears are not dismissed, they are proven to be pointless, when provided with actual evidence and logic they are still fearful so it reaches a point that the only thing you can do is dismiss their fear because they don't see reason. But it is worth fearing to some people, just like flu. If you have a weakened immune system you worry about these things. Yes obviously but a large scale panic does not happen over the flu like it is with this. In this country, regardless of the state of the NHS, the health care and human rights, and just straight up density of the population (except maybe London, good luck guys!) all point towards very little to fear, even for those with weakened immune systems. China on the other hand is not even close to our quality of health care and quality of living (as a whole), they have next to no human rights, and the population is immense - plus it was the country of origin. Its going to appear like the next bubonic plague in that case. Not sure what human rights has to do with it ? Human rights includes access and right to health care. A large number of the Chinese population don't have a right to any health care nevermind a decent quality health care. " Is it like that in America too? | |||
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"I don't think people's fears should be dismissed though. It's normal to be concerned over the unknown and some of the (unverified) stuff coming out of China is quite shocking. When there is enough evidence and information outside of the shock and grab scaremongering media but they are too lazy to check. Fear and concern are two different things. Those who are using logic are just as concerned, they just use common sense and that logic to not be fearful over something that is not worthing fearing. People are freaking out and worrying solely based on the media provided fear machine. Majority of the time fears are not dismissed, they are proven to be pointless, when provided with actual evidence and logic they are still fearful so it reaches a point that the only thing you can do is dismiss their fear because they don't see reason. But it is worth fearing to some people, just like flu. If you have a weakened immune system you worry about these things. Yes obviously but a large scale panic does not happen over the flu like it is with this. In this country, regardless of the state of the NHS, the health care and human rights, and just straight up density of the population (except maybe London, good luck guys!) all point towards very little to fear, even for those with weakened immune systems. China on the other hand is not even close to our quality of health care and quality of living (as a whole), they have next to no human rights, and the population is immense - plus it was the country of origin. Its going to appear like the next bubonic plague in that case. Not sure what human rights has to do with it ? Human rights includes access and right to health care. A large number of the Chinese population don't have a right to any health care nevermind a decent quality health care. Exactly.
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apparently the brits in france caught it whilst skiing in a resort from a brit who had travelled from singapore....
using the "6 degrees of seperation" method... i expect to be given "2 weeks in solitude" in a few weeks time......
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"i see its the brits doing what the brits do best.... spreading disease whilst travelling across the world...
apparently the brits in france caught it whilst skiing in a resort from a brit who had travelled from singapore....
using the "6 degrees of seperation" method... i expect to be given "2 weeks in solitude" in a few weeks time......
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"Five British skiers confirmed with virus in France. Getting scary now " Scarier than people her already having it? | |||
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"Oh great! Guess where I’m going next week! " Guess where I am now Now seriously every year in the Alps norovirus is rampant but we dont hear much about that and trust me it's nasty That said I'd prefer not to catch either so plenty of hand gel hygiene but I'm not convinced to be worried yet | |||
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"The negativity in this thread is mind boggling. Fake news from all quarters seems to be in the ascendancy. " Welcome to the forums | |||
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"The negativity in this thread is mind boggling. Fake news from all quarters seems to be in the ascendancy. Welcome to the forums "It is not just in the forums, The vitriol thrown at my half Chinese Grandkids ia appalling, When 10 year old kids tell my 10 yr old Grandson to F off back to China, and also reduce my 5yr old Grandaughter to tears I question whether I wish to remain in this country. | |||
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"The negativity in this thread is mind boggling. Fake news from all quarters seems to be in the ascendancy. Welcome to the forums
It is not just in the forums, The vitriol thrown at my half Chinese Grandkids ia appalling, When 10 year old kids tell my 10 yr old Grandson to F off back to China, and also reduce my 5yr old Grandaughter to tears I question whether I wish to remain in this country."That's truly aweful. Sorry to hear that | |||
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"The Health Secretary has just announced that Coronavirus is a Serious and Imminent Threat to the British Public. Worrying development" It does imply that it's more serious than we previously thought. I understand that it's now possible to be forcibly required to enter isolation. Don't let it affect your day to day life though Tom. If action is being taken it does limit the risk somewhat | |||
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"The Health Secretary has just announced that Coronavirus is a Serious and Imminent Threat to the British Public. Worrying development" Not at all - it's a purely legal step taken to allow the Government to put in place measures to detain people in quarantine if necessary. Public Health England still have the threat level at moderate. To put some perspective on this - the mortality rate of this virus is around 2% - the mortality rate of SARS was around 20% - the mortality rate of a virus currently spreading in parts of the Middle East but that hasn't been as widely publicised is 30% - so again by comparison the effects of the virus in the news is minimal compared to other known viruses. Is it a concern? Yes, but it's important to avoid scaremongering also, especially without a true appreciation of the situation. | |||
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"The two british cases were less than a mile from my house, and all the Chinese students around here (of which there are many) are wearing surgical masks now, I'm just carrying on as normal though "Just as well because buying those masks is a big waste of money, just wash hands regularly and don’t put unwashed hands near you’re mouth eyes nose ect. | |||
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"The Health Secretary has just announced that Coronavirus is a Serious and Imminent Threat to the British Public. Worrying development Not at all - it's a purely legal step taken to allow the Government to put in place measures to detain people in quarantine if necessary. Public Health England still have the threat level at moderate. To put some perspective on this - the mortality rate of this virus is around 2% - the mortality rate of SARS was around 20% - the mortality rate of a virus currently spreading in parts of the Middle East but that hasn't been as widely publicised is 30% - so again by comparison the effects of the virus in the news is minimal compared to other known viruses. Is it a concern? Yes, but it's important to avoid scaremongering also, especially without a true appreciation of the situation." Indeed. Also just to add on to that, the concern by officials and scientists and doctors (overall) is less about the mortality rate and more about the actual rate it is being passed on. It is highly contagious. | |||
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"Has anyone bought or thinking of buying medical face masks? " We have been buying them and shipping them out to my son in laws family in Hong Kong, Big shortage of them over there and only available on Black Market | |||
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"The Health Secretary has just announced that Coronavirus is a Serious and Imminent Threat to the British Public. Worrying development Not at all - it's a purely legal step taken to allow the Government to put in place measures to detain people in quarantine if necessary. Public Health England still have the threat level at moderate. To put some perspective on this - the mortality rate of this virus is around 2% - the mortality rate of SARS was around 20% - the mortality rate of a virus currently spreading in parts of the Middle East but that hasn't been as widely publicised is 30% - so again by comparison the effects of the virus in the news is minimal compared to other known viruses. Is it a concern? Yes, but it's important to avoid scaremongering also, especially without a true appreciation of the situation. Indeed. Also just to add on to that, the concern by officials and scientists and doctors (overall) is less about the mortality rate and more about the actual rate it is being passed on. It is highly contagious." Yep, four times more so than SARS but then less so than many other viruses around - and the actual contraction rate has dropped in the past week. | |||
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"Has anyone bought or thinking of buying medical face masks? " Two music students from Bournemouth have made £10,000 selling them. | |||
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"I’m off to the French alps tomorrow. I must remember to pack some tissues! " Quite seriously I am here , The number of people with a cold virus is remarkable "ie so many it's worth remarking on" Coughing and snuffling is rife In my chalet last week one guy went down with possible food poisoning and I was down for 24 hrs with possibly the same . The word on the Alps street is not Corona virus its norovirus and for that you must be hand gel vigilante AND what you eat and drink from . I took my own hydration bottles and have not d*unk a beer out yet I damn foolishly drank from a glass in the chalet grrrr Luckily I'm fighting fit again and it's snowing hard yey off piste x | |||
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"The Health Secretary has just announced that Coronavirus is a Serious and Imminent Threat to the British Public. Worrying development Not at all - it's a purely legal step taken to allow the Government to put in place measures to detain people in quarantine if necessary. Public Health England still have the threat level at moderate. To put some perspective on this - the mortality rate of this virus is around 2% - the mortality rate of SARS was around 20% - the mortality rate of a virus currently spreading in parts of the Middle East but that hasn't been as widely publicised is 30% - so again by comparison the effects of the virus in the news is minimal compared to other known viruses. Is it a concern? Yes, but it's important to avoid scaremongering also, especially without a true appreciation of the situation. Indeed. Also just to add on to that, the concern by officials and scientists and doctors (overall) is less about the mortality rate and more about the actual rate it is being passed on. It is highly contagious." A virologist said that although the death rate is less than SARS it is spreading much much faster | |||
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"Sky are talking about a human superspreader. They are saying that 20:80 rule applies. 20 % of the people spreading 80% of the virus. Not sure why it's not the 1:4 rule though " What does that actually mean though? | |||
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"The Health Secretary has just announced that Coronavirus is a Serious and Imminent Threat to the British Public. Worrying development" as others have said... this is more of a legal thing, reason why they have done it is at the moment they are asking people "voluntarily" to self-isolate (basically stay home) for 14 days.... some of those asked are not happy and they said they were not going to take notice/abscond.... so this way the government can legally tell people to "stay home"... the annoying this is that this one "super-spreader" has basically infected a dozen people that we know of so far on this route from singapore....to france... to brighton! | |||
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"The Health Secretary has just announced that Coronavirus is a Serious and Imminent Threat to the British Public. Worrying development as others have said... this is more of a legal thing, reason why they have done it is at the moment they are asking people "voluntarily" to self-isolate (basically stay home) for 14 days.... some of those asked are not happy and they said they were not going to take notice/abscond.... so this way the government can legally tell people to "stay home"... the annoying this is that this one "super-spreader" has basically infected a dozen people that we know of so far on this route from singapore....to france... to brighton! " Beggars belief the stupidity of these people | |||
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"Flu is still more dangerous. " Can I have next weeks lottery To my knowledge we have decades of data on the leathality of many strains of flu to my knowledge we do not have enough data to know which side of the statistics coin it will fall Fear will not help nor will nonchalance It would help if we were all a tad more vigilant against all air surface human to human viruses surely? | |||
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"I heard that in hotels the salad bar is the biggest risk for bacteria breeding.. it's possible that melon on a breakfast bar could harbour the virus but think the watermelon is a red herring I don’t ever eat from a salad bar. They’re full of germs. Oh god! I'm always eating from salad bars on holiday
I’m just thinking of normal every day germs ... you know, from people not washing their hands etc
I am not sure that washing hands is not another red herring. I read that it's people not drying them properly after washing them that is s bigger problem. Apparently if you don't wash your hands properly and then use one of those high speed air dryers it just launched millions of tiny bacteria into the air to be breathed it by other people...
A healthy human who has built resistance through being exposed to bacteria since birth has a pretty good immune system. Obviously I don't know about our resistance to this particular strain of coronavirus but as far as ordinary every day risks go, most of us are ok with normal thorough hand washing ."This particular strain of the Coronavirus type viruses is unique, so none of us should have any immunity that's developed through our lives. I read today that it doesn't appear to be mutating very much, which is a great sign, if that continues. Unfortunately, as it's new, we have very little data upon it so far. Vaccines may be tested on animals and then people by summer but obviously not all are guaranteed to work or be safe. They'd have to produce high volumes of it, so less likely available until late summer onwards. Isolation is the safest precision . Then it's going to be scrupulously cleaning ourselves and minimal contact with others. Isolation of those who are infected. | |||
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"I heard that in hotels the salad bar is the biggest risk for bacteria breeding.. it's possible that melon on a breakfast bar could harbour the virus but think the watermelon is a red herring I don’t ever eat from a salad bar. They’re full of germs. Oh god! I'm always eating from salad bars on holiday
I’m just thinking of normal every day germs ... you know, from people not washing their hands etc
I am not sure that washing hands is not another red herring. I read that it's people not drying them properly after washing them that is s bigger problem. Apparently if you don't wash your hands properly and then use one of those high speed air dryers it just launched millions of tiny bacteria into the air to be breathed it by other people...
A healthy human who has built resistance through being exposed to bacteria since birth has a pretty good immune system. Obviously I don't know about our resistance to this particular strain of coronavirus but as far as ordinary every day risks go, most of us are ok with normal thorough hand washing .
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Coronavirus type viruses is unique, so none of us should have any immunity that's developed through our lives.
I read today that it doesn't appear to be mutating very much, which is a great sign, if that continues. Unfortunately, as it's new, we have very little data upon it so far.
Vaccines may be tested on animals and then people by summer but obviously not all are guaranteed to work or be safe. They'd have to produce high volumes of it, so less likely available until late summer onwards.
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"Yes.. it's fucking serious and those bastards have the power to herd us into quarntine" I was shocked to see the Chinese forcing people into quarantine and actually said ‘that wouldn’t happen here’ and yet it can. | |||
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"Yes.. it's fucking serious and those bastards have the power to herd us into quarntine I was shocked to see the Chinese forcing people into quarantine and actually said ‘that wouldn’t happen here’ and yet it can." And once the perceived threat is over will the increased powers be rescinded? Call me cynical (many do) but I think not. | |||
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"Yes.. it's fucking serious and those bastards have the power to herd us into quarntine I was shocked to see the Chinese forcing people into quarantine and actually said ‘that wouldn’t happen here’ and yet it can. And once the perceived threat is over will the increased powers be rescinded? Call me cynical (many do) but I think not." I imagine it will be kept as an emergency if needed. And those doing it will decide. People take over bit by bit by bit so it’s unnoticeable and gradual and slow and inevitable. | |||
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"Yes.. it's fucking serious and those bastards have the power to herd us into quarntine I was shocked to see the Chinese forcing people into quarantine and actually said ‘that wouldn’t happen here’ and yet it can. And once the perceived threat is over will the increased powers be rescinded? Call me cynical (many do) but I think not. I imagine it will be kept as an emergency if needed. And those doing it will decide. People take over bit by bit by bit so it’s unnoticeable and gradual and slow and inevitable. " Yep! | |||
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"They will herd us into areas whether we are infected or not " Just like the poor animals... | |||
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"Yes.. it's fucking serious and those bastards have the power to herd us into quarntine I was shocked to see the Chinese forcing people into quarantine and actually said ‘that wouldn’t happen here’ and yet it can. And once the perceived threat is over will the increased powers be rescinded? Call me cynical (many do) but I think not. I imagine it will be kept as an emergency if needed. And those doing it will decide. People take over bit by bit by bit so it’s unnoticeable and gradual and slow and inevitable. Yep!" such things become accepted as the new normal. | |||
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"They will herd us into areas whether we are infected or not " Do you mean isolate cities? | |||
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"It's all gone a bit 1984 on this thread...." 1984 ? | |||
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"It's all gone a bit 1984 on this thread.... 1984 ?" Orwell big bro | |||
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"It's all gone a bit 1984 on this thread.... 1984 ? Orwell big bro" I hope you are safe but the papers say there are now super carriers.. | |||
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"It's all gone a bit 1984 on this thread.... 1984 ? Orwell big bro I hope you are safe but the papers say there are now super carriers.. " You mean super spreaders? You do actually know what one is? Every single outbreak from the common cold to ebola has super spreaders. It is nothing more than somebody infected who happens to pass on to more people than usual. It is just down to usually those who come in to contact with a large number of people instead of the average 1-3. | |||
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"It's all gone a bit 1984 on this thread.... 1984 ? Orwell big bro I hope you are safe but the papers say there are now super carriers.. You mean super spreaders? You do actually know what one is? Every single outbreak from the common cold to ebola has super spreaders. It is nothing more than somebody infected who happens to pass on to more people than usual. It is just down to usually those who come in to contact with a large number of people instead of the average 1-3." How do we spot them.? | |||
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"It's all gone a bit 1984 on this thread.... 1984 ? Orwell big bro I hope you are safe but the papers say there are now super carriers.. You mean super spreaders? You do actually know what one is? Every single outbreak from the common cold to ebola has super spreaders. It is nothing more than somebody infected who happens to pass on to more people than usual. It is just down to usually those who come in to contact with a large number of people instead of the average 1-3. How do we spot them.?" They’re usually found in the fab forums, showing off their irrational hysteria | |||
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"It's all gone a bit 1984 on this thread.... 1984 ? Orwell big bro I hope you are safe but the papers say there are now super carriers.. You mean super spreaders? You do actually know what one is? Every single outbreak from the common cold to ebola has super spreaders. It is nothing more than somebody infected who happens to pass on to more people than usual. It is just down to usually those who come in to contact with a large number of people instead of the average 1-3. How do we spot them.?" You don't... everyone is potentially one. Just avoid contact with people. Lock yourself in the basement, attic, or at least the bathroom. Oh and switch off the WiFi and Internet connection. The virus has mutated to be able to travel through cyberspace. | |||
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"I hate these posts, I hate the panic and the worry that happens with a new virus break out. Thing for me is I have someone I care for who has a low immune system. If this hits her I worry about what is going to happen as she can't fight it off herself. She doesn't have the antibodies the average person does. And if there's no drug for this virus or medication that works then my fear is is going to be through the roof. " I can understand this. My sister was up until recently on oxygen through out the time. Her respiratory system will never be the same, so in those situations it is obviously a major concern. But for healthy people the prognosis is good. Best wishes for your friend x | |||
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"It's all gone a bit 1984 on this thread.... 1984 ? Orwell big bro I hope you are safe but the papers say there are now super carriers.. You mean super spreaders? You do actually know what one is? Every single outbreak from the common cold to ebola has super spreaders. It is nothing more than somebody infected who happens to pass on to more people than usual. It is just down to usually those who come in to contact with a large number of people instead of the average 1-3. How do we spot them.? You don't... everyone is potentially one. Just avoid contact with people. Lock yourself in the basement, attic, or at least the bathroom. Oh and switch off the WiFi and Internet connection. The virus has mutated to be able to travel through cyberspace. "No need to mock | |||
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"Flu is still more dangerous. Can I have next weeks lottery To my knowledge we have decades of data on the leathality of many strains of flu to my knowledge we do not have enough data to know which side of the statistics coin it will fall Fear will not help nor will nonchalance It would help if we were all a tad more vigilant against all air surface human to human viruses surely?" Absolutely agree about vigilance. As an immuno-compromised person the risks of flu are greater as the probability of me coming into contact with an infected person is higher. | |||
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"Vigilance ,,,?" Washing hands, sneezing and coughing into elbow, not hand, disposing of tissues carefully, self-isolating if ill. | |||
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"Vigilance ,,,? Washing hands, sneezing and coughing into elbow, not hand, disposing of tissues carefully, self-isolating if ill. " Coughing into elbow. .we are saved... | |||
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"Vigilance ,,,? Washing hands, sneezing and coughing into elbow, not hand, disposing of tissues carefully, self-isolating if ill. Coughing into elbow. .we are saved... " | |||
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"I spoke to my very sensible nursey friend today. If anybody wants me to send them her message I can. She's not worried yet so neither am I." Me neither,as I said in a previous post the negativity is mind boggling. | |||
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"Vigilance ,,,? Washing hands, sneezing and coughing into elbow, not hand, disposing of tissues carefully, self-isolating if ill. Coughing into elbow. .we are saved... "You are aware of the scientific data that illustrates how something so simple dramatically reduces infection ratios rates ? You're not are you I'd suggest home work before scoffing | |||
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"They will herd us into areas whether we are infected or not " Have you asked for a new tin foil hat for your birthday? | |||
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"Vigilance ,,,? Washing hands, sneezing and coughing into elbow, not hand, disposing of tissues carefully, self-isolating if ill. Coughing into elbow. .we are saved...
You are aware of the scientific data that illustrates how something so simple dramatically reduces infection ratios rates ?
You're not are you
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"Do you need a brown paper bag to breathe into?" Nah he's protected by his tinfoil hat | |||
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"Do you need a brown paper bag to breathe into?" No but it's in the news.. If it's in a prison it's not good | |||
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"I think it's in our prisons now " Don't get arrested then. Problem solved. 
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"I think it's in our prisons now Don't get arrested then. Problem solved.
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"I think op just needs a bubble to live in" We might all need one . It could spread and bring anarchy to the streets | |||
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"I think op just needs a bubble to live in We might all need one . It could spread and bring anarchy to the streets" Nah Sex Pistols have split for good | |||
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"I think it's in our prisons now Don't get arrested then. Problem solved.
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Very Vulnerable "Don't take this the wrong way but you do come across as overly paranoid about this. Statistically I suspect you're more likely to get hit by a bus crossing the road, or in this weather have a tree fall on you. Worrying about every possible illness or cause of harm wont change the outcome. There's nothing you can do to 100% protect yourself. Unless you have an airtight safe room filled with food and water that you can move into for the next six months. But then the air filtration system might fail in a power cut and you could suffocate........
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"I think op just needs a bubble to live in We might all need one . It could spread and bring anarchy to the streets" Actually thinking about it OP you said London was a warzone anyway so there's probably anarchy there already if you're to be believed | |||
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