FabSwingers.com > Forums > The Lounge > Welsh language pointless
Welsh language pointless
Jump to: Newest in thread
|
By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
Zoe Williams, Guardian columnist, it has been reported, has called the Welsh language, "essentially pointless".
Would a newspaper columnist get away with saying the same about an Asian or African language ? I think not. Rant over |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Zoe Williams, Guardian columnist, it has been reported, has called the Welsh language, "essentially pointless".
Would a newspaper columnist get away with saying the same about an Asian or African language ? I think not. Rant over "
Yes. They would.
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
It's a common enough sentiment, which I hear far too often. It's my first language and part of my culture and heritage. I adore the fact I speak the language of my forefathers, and it's the language I use in my household and my many of my friends. Just because it's not widely spoken does not mean it's irrelevant |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
Katy Hopkins gets away with saying all sorts of vile things in the papers. Top of the list would have to be "we need a final solution" in reference to migrants on boats across the med. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Zoe Williams, Guardian columnist, it has been reported, has called the Welsh language, "essentially pointless".
Would a newspaper columnist get away with saying the same about an Asian or African language ? I think not. Rant over "
Columnists can get away with saying pretty much whatever they want. Littlejohn and Liddle would’ve been done away with decades ago if not. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago
West Wales |
One of the reasons we moved to this part of Wales, People on the streets chat in Welsh unless they know you aren’t a local.
Our eight year old is fluent in little over a year & her older sibling is not far behind.
If we thought it was a pointless language they would not have gone to Welsh language school for ten weeks.
S |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *uicy jonesMan
over a year ago
near a big hill in s/ shropshire NOT in |
"Not pointless however duplicating road signs is however pointless and expensive
Why is it expensive? They only use the letters L, W, Y and P "
They do signs In English too , but they also use a lot of LL WW YY together |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Not pointless however duplicating road signs is however pointless and expensive "
Do you think the major expense of putting a road sign up is the cost of the ink? Compared to the civil engineering team, closing the road, the administration for the planning departments and the cost of the rigid pole and metal sign?
Should we also save money by drawing the sign for 30mph in a marginally smaller font? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Not pointless however duplicating road signs is however pointless and expensive
Why is it expensive? They only use the letters L, W, Y and P "
Yeah but 40 times per word... there was more money spent on road sign letter paint in Wales last year..than on fruit and veg in the whole of Scotland since 1987....just a thought |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"I once went to Wales with my dyslexic friend once and as we approached Wales he shouted in cured as he starts
Reading the welsh signs
Before any Slates me I'm 1/2 welsh !!! Thank fuuuuk it's only half "
Is that a pun ? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"I think it’s a pretty cool language so she can just fuck off. (I was going to be pretty smart and write it in welsh but I it’s too much for google it seems) "
Google translate is awful, it's utterly pointless as many councils here have found out |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"One of the reasons we moved to this part of Wales, People on the streets chat in Welsh unless they know you aren’t a local.
Our eight year old is fluent in little over a year & her older sibling is not far behind.
If we thought it was a pointless language they would not have gone to Welsh language school for ten weeks.
S"
Our 3 little ones are fluent too , moved here 3 years ago and our eldest is (next year) going to a all welsh comp school ! Best thing we ever did was move here , but I still can’t understand a bloody word of welsh ! |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
I am sure she has her own opinion , as for me .
Our language is part of our rich beautiful heritage. Its part of our culture and its fantastic to see that more people are learning and speaking Welsh. It is one of the oldest languages in western Europe.
It's a beautiful descriptive language , love to hear it spoken nd to speak Welsh. We have beautiful music and amazing stories .
To hear a male voice Choir can fill a chap with hiraeth , a Welsh word that is a feeling of passion and longing for ones home. (Even though I live in Wales) |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"One of the reasons we moved to this part of Wales, People on the streets chat in Welsh unless they know you aren’t a local.
Our eight year old is fluent in little over a year & her older sibling is not far behind.
If we thought it was a pointless language they would not have gone to Welsh language school for ten weeks.
S
Our 3 little ones are fluent too , moved here 3 years ago and our eldest is (next year) going to a all welsh comp school ! Best thing we ever did was move here , but I still can’t understand a bloody word of welsh ! "
Love that you are embracing the language makes me one cymraes hapus iawn |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
I went through a place called Bwlch t’other day, which I understand when pronounced properly sounds like you’re coughing up a fur ball. It’s ok though, I’m not racist / xenophobic as I was on my way to visit my Welsh Nan! |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *elshyXOMan
over a year ago
Newcastle |
Its infuriating to read. Wales & Welsh have long been under supression from outside governments & various other sources. The constant demeaning nature of comments from those outside who simply dont understand what it means to be Welsh (whether you speak it or not) is disgusting & arrogant.
Im slowly learning to speak Welsh (& struggling) by virtue of it being something my father never managed to do, as its part of my heritage & it fights against comments that have been fed to us for years in the media. One thing is for certain though, they’ll never win. Yma o hyd. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"I went through a place called Bwlch t’other day, which I understand when pronounced properly sounds like you’re coughing up a fur ball. It’s ok though, I’m not racist / xenophobic as I was on my way to visit my Welsh Nan! "
You are correct
https://youtu.be/M2uh-nWateM |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
It’s an opinion that is echoed throughout some parts of Wales though. I personally love my language although I’m not fluent. I took if for A-level and really wish I had kept it up. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Its infuriating to read. Wales & Welsh have long been under supression from outside governments & various other sources. The constant demeaning nature of comments from those outside who simply dont understand what it means to be Welsh (whether you speak it or not) is disgusting & arrogant.
Im slowly learning to speak Welsh (& struggling) by virtue of it being something my father never managed to do, as its part of my heritage & it fights against comments that have been fed to us for years in the media. One thing is for certain though, they’ll never win. Yma o hyd."
Good luck with learning Welsh, currently singing Daffydd Iwan now |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"I am sure she has her own opinion , as for me .
Our language is part of our rich beautiful heritage. Its part of our culture and its fantastic to see that more people are learning and speaking Welsh. It is one of the oldest languages in western Europe.
It's a beautiful descriptive language , love to hear it spoken nd to speak Welsh. We have beautiful music and amazing stories .
To hear a male voice Choir can fill a chap with hiraeth , a Welsh word that is a feeling of passion and longing for ones home. (Even though I live in Wales) "
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *elshyXOMan
over a year ago
Newcastle |
"Its infuriating to read. Wales & Welsh have long been under supression from outside governments & various other sources. The constant demeaning nature of comments from those outside who simply dont understand what it means to be Welsh (whether you speak it or not) is disgusting & arrogant.
Im slowly learning to speak Welsh (& struggling) by virtue of it being something my father never managed to do, as its part of my heritage & it fights against comments that have been fed to us for years in the media. One thing is for certain though, they’ll never win. Yma o hyd.
Good luck with learning Welsh, currently singing Daffydd Iwan now "
Im needing all the help I can get! Trying my best to break ice for going on a Wales away day in the summer so hopefully by then I can have a basic greeting down! |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *hilloutMan
over a year ago
All over the place! Northwesr, , Southwest |
Having lived and worked in western wales for a time (Cardigan, Aberystwyth) I came to appreciate the sound of the welsh language and the English accent of a native welsh speaker. I found it fascinating walking along a road downtown in some places and hearing more welsh than english. It's part of the cultural and historic identity of the country and having someone say it's useless is an affront to anyone who prides themselves in being welsh.
I loved the time I spent there |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Zoe Williams, Guardian columnist, it has been reported, has called the Welsh language, "essentially pointless".
Would a newspaper columnist get away with saying the same about an Asian or African language ? I think not. Rant over "
Well she is obviously a twat.. (welsh for cunt) excuse my language |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
If you loose your language you loose your identity as a nation, it's only 3 / 4 generations ago that the welsh not was a common part of school life, I wonder if she would say the same about other ethnic minorities Cymraeg ac yn falch |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
My daughter is fluent, always been educated in Welsh language schools. When we moved villages there is an English speaking one here, but she asked to go to the Welsh speaking one in another village, so I sorted it for her. She’s proud to know her language and her history. Not so proud of me though, as I’m rubbish at picking it up x |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"If you loose your language you loose your identity as a nation, it's only 3 / 4 generations ago that the welsh not was a common part of school life, I wonder if she would say the same about other ethnic minorities Cymraeg ac yn falch"
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"I’ve lived in wales quite some time and I’ve never heard any one speaking it, unless you’ve got s4c on the moving picture box "
That's a shame, I lived in the capital for over 10 years and I heard it often. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"I’ve lived in wales quite some time and I’ve never heard any one speaking it, unless you’ve got s4c on the moving picture box
That's a shame, I lived in the capital for over 10 years and I heard it often. "
Same. Hear Welsh being spoken in Chapter every time I visit for a cuppa. It's nice. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"If you loose your language you loose your identity as a nation, it's only 3 / 4 generations ago that the welsh not was a common part of school life, I wonder if she would say the same about other ethnic minorities Cymraeg ac yn falch"
I have no real connection to Wales, but I am grateful that native languages, not least Welsh, are being revived, and connection to heritage restored. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"I’ve lived in wales quite some time and I’ve never heard any one speaking it, unless you’ve got s4c on the moving picture box
That's a shame, I lived in the capital for over 10 years and I heard it often.
Same. Hear Welsh being spoken in Chapter every time I visit for a cuppa. It's nice."
Used to live a stone's throw away from the Chapter, used to be one of my favourite places to go |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
I think, going back to the OP, trying to pit one historically marginalised language against another is in pretty poor taste. Wouldn't it be better, rather than trying to decide whether Welsh or some other marginalised language is better or worse... to look at how they were marginalised in the first place, and stand up against that? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"I love accents. Welsh men sexy as hell. Would love one to send me an audio of them speaking English first and then Welsh
I can only remember how to swear in Welsh, sorry "
Damn |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
Speaking Welsh is not pointless, it's part of our rich heritage. Yes it's a language and culture that he been eroded by both the English and the Welsh people themselves.
We as Welsh people complain about the Welsh not with good reason. However, the people handing these to the school children were Welsh themselves. 3 out of my 4 grandparents were 1st language Welsh, one did not speak it has she was not a farmer and came from a city. Welsh was considered a county bumpkin language by the Welsh people themselves.
However, the tide has turned and the Welsh in my opinion are keen to maintain our culture.
It saddens me when I see a centuries old farm name changed just so the new owners can pronounce it. It's all too easy to ridicule our alphabet (yes it is different) and our pronunciation. But it's often done without thought, I mean seriously English is a weird as language too, you have a silent K what on earth!!!
I personally think it's amazing to live on an island with such cultural diversity and it should be preserved and celebrated.
Wow that was a rant sorry |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Speaking Welsh is not pointless, it's part of our rich heritage. Yes it's a language and culture that he been eroded by both the English and the Welsh people themselves.
We as Welsh people complain about the Welsh not with good reason. However, the people handing these to the school children were Welsh themselves. 3 out of my 4 grandparents were 1st language Welsh, one did not speak it has she was not a farmer and came from a city. Welsh was considered a county bumpkin language by the Welsh people themselves.
However, the tide has turned and the Welsh in my opinion are keen to maintain our culture.
It saddens me when I see a centuries old farm name changed just so the new owners can pronounce it. It's all too easy to ridicule our alphabet (yes it is different) and our pronunciation. But it's often done without thought, I mean seriously English is a weird as language too, you have a silent K what on earth!!!
I personally think it's amazing to live on an island with such cultural diversity and it should be preserved and celebrated.
Wow that was a rant sorry "
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Speaking Welsh is not pointless, it's part of our rich heritage. Yes it's a language and culture that he been eroded by both the English and the Welsh people themselves.
We as Welsh people complain about the Welsh not with good reason. However, the people handing these to the school children were Welsh themselves. 3 out of my 4 grandparents were 1st language Welsh, one did not speak it has she was not a farmer and came from a city. Welsh was considered a county bumpkin language by the Welsh people themselves.
However, the tide has turned and the Welsh in my opinion are keen to maintain our culture.
It saddens me when I see a centuries old farm name changed just so the new owners can pronounce it. It's all too easy to ridicule our alphabet (yes it is different) and our pronunciation. But it's often done without thought, I mean seriously English is a weird as language too, you have a silent K what on earth!!!
I personally think it's amazing to live on an island with such cultural diversity and it should be preserved and celebrated.
Wow that was a rant sorry "
Beautifully put |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Speaking Welsh is not pointless, it's part of our rich heritage. Yes it's a language and culture that he been eroded by both the English and the Welsh people themselves.
We as Welsh people complain about the Welsh not with good reason. However, the people handing these to the school children were Welsh themselves. 3 out of my 4 grandparents were 1st language Welsh, one did not speak it has she was not a farmer and came from a city. Welsh was considered a county bumpkin language by the Welsh people themselves.
However, the tide has turned and the Welsh in my opinion are keen to maintain our culture.
It saddens me when I see a centuries old farm name changed just so the new owners can pronounce it. It's all too easy to ridicule our alphabet (yes it is different) and our pronunciation. But it's often done without thought, I mean seriously English is a weird as language too, you have a silent K what on earth!!!
I personally think it's amazing to live on an island with such cultural diversity and it should be preserved and celebrated.
Wow that was a rant sorry " very well said ,
Its our culture and heritage and should be celebrated.
I highly recommend visiting the national Eisteddfod. Despite what people think English people are made very welcome and encouraged to immerse themselves. We welcome all |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Speaking Welsh is not pointless, it's part of our rich heritage. Yes it's a language and culture that he been eroded by both the English and the Welsh people themselves.
We as Welsh people complain about the Welsh not with good reason. However, the people handing these to the school children were Welsh themselves. 3 out of my 4 grandparents were 1st language Welsh, one did not speak it has she was not a farmer and came from a city. Welsh was considered a county bumpkin language by the Welsh people themselves.
However, the tide has turned and the Welsh in my opinion are keen to maintain our culture.
It saddens me when I see a centuries old farm name changed just so the new owners can pronounce it. It's all too easy to ridicule our alphabet (yes it is different) and our pronunciation. But it's often done without thought, I mean seriously English is a weird as language too, you have a silent K what on earth!!!
I personally think it's amazing to live on an island with such cultural diversity and it should be preserved and celebrated.
Wow that was a rant sorry very well said ,
Its our culture and heritage and should be celebrated.
I highly recommend visiting the national Eisteddfod. Despite what people think English people are made very welcome and encouraged to immerse themselves. We welcome all "
God that was a form of torture in school! Have you never repeatedly recited Cynddulan on a tractor, over and over to a fanatical Welsh teacher? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Speaking Welsh is not pointless, it's part of our rich heritage. Yes it's a language and culture that he been eroded by both the English and the Welsh people themselves.
We as Welsh people complain about the Welsh not with good reason. However, the people handing these to the school children were Welsh themselves. 3 out of my 4 grandparents were 1st language Welsh, one did not speak it has she was not a farmer and came from a city. Welsh was considered a county bumpkin language by the Welsh people themselves.
However, the tide has turned and the Welsh in my opinion are keen to maintain our culture.
It saddens me when I see a centuries old farm name changed just so the new owners can pronounce it. It's all too easy to ridicule our alphabet (yes it is different) and our pronunciation. But it's often done without thought, I mean seriously English is a weird as language too, you have a silent K what on earth!!!
I personally think it's amazing to live on an island with such cultural diversity and it should be preserved and celebrated.
Wow that was a rant sorry very well said ,
Its our culture and heritage and should be celebrated.
I highly recommend visiting the national Eisteddfod. Despite what people think English people are made very welcome and encouraged to immerse themselves. We welcome all
God that was a form of torture in school! Have you never repeatedly recited Cynddulan on a tractor, over and over to a fanatical Welsh teacher? " oh recitation lessons they were fun , not ad folk dancing , jumping over a broom in clogs |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"It's a common enough sentiment, which I hear far too often. It's my first language and part of my culture and heritage. I adore the fact I speak the language of my forefathers, and it's the language I use in my household and my many of my friends. Just because it's not widely spoken does not mean it's irrelevant "
As a Saes, having been at uni and lived a few years after in Aberystwyth, I love the place and it’s language and culture.
(But it’s great when we play them at rugby!) |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"
Would a newspaper columnist get away with saying the same about an Asian or African language ? I think not. Rant over "
That statement is at exact level of patheticness than hers.
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"I love accents. Welsh men sexy as hell. Would love one to send me an audio of them speaking English first and then Welsh
I can only remember how to swear in Welsh, sorry "
There are no Welsh swear words |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"
Would a newspaper columnist get away with saying the same about an Asian or African language ? I think not. Rant over
That statement is at exact level of patheticness than hers.
"
Please explain to the Welsh nation ? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"I love accents. Welsh men sexy as hell. Would love one to send me an audio of them speaking English first and then Welsh
I can only remember how to swear in Welsh, sorry
There are no Welsh swear words "
We have over a hundred words in Welsh that can translate to 'fuck'.
We are the eskimos of fuck.
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"I love accents. Welsh men sexy as hell. Would love one to send me an audio of them speaking English first and then Welsh
You should have mentioned it "
I did |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"I love accents. Welsh men sexy as hell. Would love one to send me an audio of them speaking English first and then Welsh
You should have mentioned it
I did
I’m on it .... welsh poem ??"
Oh yes |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"I love accents. Welsh men sexy as hell. Would love one to send me an audio of them speaking English first and then Welsh
You should have mentioned it
I did
I’m on it .... welsh poem ??
Oh yes "
Leave it with me |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
Lots of people are 'essentially pointless' but we keep them hanging around
Welsh language is not dying out neither is it pointless... Would you tell any other nation that their home language is pointless!
Y Ddraig Goch is stronger than ever! |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"I love accents. Welsh men sexy as hell. Would love one to send me an audio of them speaking English first and then Welsh
I can only remember how to swear in Welsh, sorry
There are no Welsh swear words "
Well i myn uffarn i myn diawl i, are there not |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"It's a common enough sentiment, which I hear far too often. It's my first language and part of my culture and heritage. I adore the fact I speak the language of my forefathers, and it's the language I use in my household and my many of my friends. Just because it's not widely spoken does not mean it's irrelevant "
Cyri only llwyr !! |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"I love accents. Welsh men sexy as hell. Would love one to send me an audio of them speaking English first and then Welsh
I can only remember how to swear in Welsh, sorry
There are no Welsh swear words
Well i myn uffarn i myn diawl i, are there not "
Coc oen |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"I love accents. Welsh men sexy as hell. Would love one to send me an audio of them speaking English first and then Welsh
I can only remember how to swear in Welsh, sorry
There are no Welsh swear words
Well i myn uffarn i myn diawl i, are there not
Coc oen "
Waaa haven't heard that one in a while |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"I used to wonder where the town of Gwasanaethau was. Seemed to be frigging signposts for it everywhere but I'll be buggered if I ever drove through it.....
A"
It’s a great place... loads of places to eat but the toilets smell |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
I'm not a fan of the Welsh language, it's used by a very small minority in Wales, most of whom speak English.
A number of fundamentalists have forced us to have bilingual signs everywhere which not only costs a fortune but looks unsightly, poses a road hazard as drivers try to distinguish between the two languages and make sense of them and can only add to confusion for the number of foreign nationals on our roads (who vastly outnumber the Welsh speakers)
I know a few kids that go to Welsh speaking schools, none of them can spell in English. To me it seems ridiculous to sacrifice a child's education just so they can speak Welsh.
Aside from that, most of the Welsh language is English for people who cannot spell. E.g. Ambiwlans, Tacsi, Bws. I'm not going to translate but I'm sure most of the non Welsh here will work the translations out. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"I'm not a fan of the Welsh language, it's used by a very small minority in Wales, most of whom speak English.
A number of fundamentalists have forced us to have bilingual signs everywhere which not only costs a fortune but looks unsightly, poses a road hazard as drivers try to distinguish between the two languages and make sense of them and can only add to confusion for the number of foreign nationals on our roads (who vastly outnumber the Welsh speakers)
I know a few kids that go to Welsh speaking schools, none of them can spell in English. To me it seems ridiculous to sacrifice a child's education just so they can speak Welsh.
Aside from that, most of the Welsh language is English for people who cannot spell. E.g. Ambiwlans, Tacsi, Bws. I'm not going to translate but I'm sure most of the non Welsh here will work the translations out."
Whilst you are totally entitled to your opinion, there are some things I politely disagree with you on.
Yes I'm bilingual but it doesn't make me a fundamentalist. I actually do not agree with all of the Welsh governments Welsh language policies.
Just because I speak English does not mean I should abandon my mother tounge. And I'm unsure why I should?
With regards bilingual signs, the last big study was done in Scotland, which found there was no detectable changes in accident rates, in fact it often made people slow down.
I did all my school level education through the medium of Welsh and I'm dyslexic, I have not sacrificed anything.
And Welsh as a language predates English, yes we have adopted some English words. Just as English has adopted words from other languages too, taxi itself originates from Latin and ambulance from French. It's rare in any language in this multicultural world not to adopt words from other countries. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"I'm not a fan of the Welsh language, it's used by a very small minority in Wales, most of whom speak English.
A number of fundamentalists have forced us to have bilingual signs everywhere which not only costs a fortune but looks unsightly, poses a road hazard as drivers try to distinguish between the two languages and make sense of them and can only add to confusion for the number of foreign nationals on our roads (who vastly outnumber the Welsh speakers)
I know a few kids that go to Welsh speaking schools, none of them can spell in English. To me it seems ridiculous to sacrifice a child's education just so they can speak Welsh.
Aside from that, most of the Welsh language is English for people who cannot spell. E.g. Ambiwlans, Tacsi, Bws. I'm not going to translate but I'm sure most of the non Welsh here will work the translations out."
I don't agree. It's diversity. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"I'm not a fan of the Welsh language, it's used by a very small minority in Wales, most of whom speak English.
A number of fundamentalists have forced us to have bilingual signs everywhere which not only costs a fortune but looks unsightly, poses a road hazard as drivers try to distinguish between the two languages and make sense of them and can only add to confusion for the number of foreign nationals on our roads (who vastly outnumber the Welsh speakers)
I know a few kids that go to Welsh speaking schools, none of them can spell in English. To me it seems ridiculous to sacrifice a child's education just so they can speak Welsh.
Aside from that, most of the Welsh language is English for people who cannot spell. E.g. Ambiwlans, Tacsi, Bws. I'm not going to translate but I'm sure most of the non Welsh here will work the translations out."
You are entitled to your opinion even though it’s wrong |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"I'm not a fan of the Welsh language, it's used by a very small minority in Wales, most of whom speak English.
A number of fundamentalists have forced us to have bilingual signs everywhere which not only costs a fortune but looks unsightly, poses a road hazard as drivers try to distinguish between the two languages and make sense of them and can only add to confusion for the number of foreign nationals on our roads (who vastly outnumber the Welsh speakers)
I know a few kids that go to Welsh speaking schools, none of them can spell in English. To me it seems ridiculous to sacrifice a child's education just so they can speak Welsh.
Aside from that, most of the Welsh language is English for people who cannot spell. E.g. Ambiwlans, Tacsi, Bws. I'm not going to translate but I'm sure most of the non Welsh here will work the translations out."
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
It's one of my deepest regrets in life that I can only speak a few terms in Welsh all of which can't be used in polite company mainly thanks to watching rugby with my grampy as a kid I can also sing a few songs |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"I'm not a fan of the Welsh language, it's used by a very small minority in Wales, most of whom speak English.
A number of fundamentalists have forced us to have bilingual signs everywhere which not only costs a fortune but looks unsightly, poses a road hazard as drivers try to distinguish between the two languages and make sense of them and can only add to confusion for the number of foreign nationals on our roads (who vastly outnumber the Welsh speakers)
I know a few kids that go to Welsh speaking schools, none of them can spell in English. To me it seems ridiculous to sacrifice a child's education just so they can speak Welsh.
Aside from that, most of the Welsh language is English for people who cannot spell. E.g. Ambiwlans, Tacsi, Bws. I'm not going to translate but I'm sure most of the non Welsh here will work the translations out."
Multiculturalism is truly wonderful and every language and culture brings something unique to the mix. So many are dying out around the world, lost wisdom in my eyes and it would be a real pity if Welsh followed. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
» Add a new message to this topic