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So what gets me about this is you get the meatless meatball the vegan tuna etc etc etc.
I'm sorry but it's not a meatball if no meat in it, it defo is not a tuna fish if it's a piece of bloody watermelon.
Each to there own I do like the odd veggie dish but call it what it is not false advertising stuff. |
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By *rjimMan
over a year ago
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The "V" brigade eat such things as 'Quorn' which in case you are confused is about as close to a mushroom as I am.(even tho I am a fun-guy)
The list of so called 'ingredients' reads like a mad scientists homework and processes used to manufacture it belong more in a lab than a food company.
I will just stick to beef.
(Ingredients: Beef)
(Warning Label: May contain...beef)
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over a year ago
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OP, you do seem to be getting a little worked up about this, however, I have to agree, why not call it a veggieball or vegburger or similar?
Everyone is entitled to eat what they like but stop trying to promote it as something which it is not.
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"OP, you do seem to be getting a little worked up about this, however, I have to agree, why not call it a veggieball or vegburger or similar?
Everyone is entitled to eat what they like but stop trying to promote it as something which it is not.
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Because the balls emulate MEAT and not a carrot. |
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over a year ago
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"OP, are you equally outraged by Cottage Pie not containing cottages, and Shepherds pie not containing Shepherds?
Nope, didn't think so."
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"So what gets me about this is you get the meatless meatball the vegan tuna etc etc etc.
I'm sorry but it's not a meatball if no meat in it, it defo is not a tuna fish if it's a piece of bloody watermelon.
Each to there own I do like the odd veggie dish but call it what it is not false advertising stuff. "
Why does anyone give a shit? |
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By *epsonWoman
over a year ago
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"Sooo Brussels sprouts and Swiss rolls?
Don't forget MaltesersI
I couldn't. I once fitted 43 in my mouth at the same time 
Not the sexiest look  I
I think I can carry it off though  "
Okaaay. Pic or it didn't happen  |
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By *epsonWoman
over a year ago
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"So what gets me about this is you get the meatless meatball the vegan tuna etc etc etc.
I'm sorry but it's not a meatball if no meat in it, it defo is not a tuna fish if it's a piece of bloody watermelon.
Each to there own I do like the odd veggie dish but call it what it is not false advertising stuff.
Why does anyone give a shit?"
Scat fun not allowed |
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"Sooo Brussels sprouts and Swiss rolls?
Don't forget MaltesersI
I couldn't. I once fitted 43 in my mouth at the same time
Not the sexiest look I
I think I can carry it off though
Okaaay. Pic or it didn't happen "
Sadly my days of having 48 Maltesers in my mouth at one time (the confectionary not the nationality) are long gone. |
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By *epsonWoman
over a year ago
Biddulph |
"Sooo Brussels sprouts and Swiss rolls?
Don't forget MaltesersI
I couldn't. I once fitted 43 in my mouth at the same time
Not the sexiest look I
I think I can carry it off though
Okaaay. Pic or it didn't happen
Sadly my days of having 48 Maltesers in my mouth at one time (the confectionary not the nationality) are long gone."
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over a year ago
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"So what gets me about this is you get the meatless meatball the vegan tuna etc etc etc.
I'm sorry but it's not a meatball if no meat in it, it defo is not a tuna fish if it's a piece of bloody watermelon.
Each to there own I do like the odd veggie dish but call it what it is not false advertising stuff. "
What makes me laugh is burger king vegan burger vegans cannot eat it because it is cooked on the same grill as the meat lol x |
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"So what gets me about this is you get the meatless meatball the vegan tuna etc etc etc.
I'm sorry but it's not a meatball if no meat in it, it defo is not a tuna fish if it's a piece of bloody watermelon.
Each to there own I do like the odd veggie dish but call it what it is not false advertising stuff.
Why does anyone give a shit?
Scat fun not allowed "
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"So what gets me about this is you get the meatless meatball the vegan tuna etc etc etc.
I'm sorry but it's not a meatball if no meat in it, it defo is not a tuna fish if it's a piece of bloody watermelon.
Each to there own I do like the odd veggie dish but call it what it is not false advertising stuff. "
Says the man claiming to be a Lion...   |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think most of the advertising now is aimed at getting meat eaters to eat veggie, or capturing the market of meat eaters trying to reduce consumption.
I have a few friends who are veggie and vegan because they think meat is cruel, and it puts them off when veggie food is labeled as fake meat. Even more so when it looks and tastes like meat. |
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over a year ago
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As much as I love me a bit of red meat, I quite like some meatless food on occasion. I made a nut roast on Sunday and it was delicious. I'm not keen on veggie food that masquerades as meat (facon, veggie "chicken", etc), but if it keeps other people happy, crack on. I can always have a bacon butty instead. |
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"So what gets me about this is you get the meatless meatball the vegan tuna etc etc etc.
I'm sorry but it's not a meatball if no meat in it, it defo is not a tuna fish if it's a piece of bloody watermelon.
Each to there own I do like the odd veggie dish but call it what it is not false advertising stuff. "
I know right?! There's me clicking on your profile expecting a majestic big cat from Africa, and it's just a bloke from Ipswich. Talk about false advertising! |
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Is veganism a fad.. ?
After all, when the earth gets hotter we will be eating each other to survive is my best guess..
And the strongest will survive a little longer.. most of them will be meat eaters .. |
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"Is veganism a fad.. ?
After all, when the earth gets hotter we will be eating each other to survive is my best guess..
And the strongest will survive a little longer.. most of them will be meat eaters .. "
Wish the earth would hurry up and get hotter, it's bloody freezing out there |
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"So what gets me about this is you get the meatless meatball the vegan tuna etc etc etc.
I'm sorry but it's not a meatball if no meat in it, it defo is not a tuna fish if it's a piece of bloody watermelon.
Each to there own I do like the odd veggie dish but call it what it is not false advertising stuff. "
Oh boy you are going to be SO disappointed when you order Buffalo Wings |
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"You know that feeling you get when you smell a bbq and you see meat cooking makes you salivate??
I wonder if vegans get that when cutting the lawn?? "
Do you get it when opening a tin of dog food? |
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over a year ago
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I had a ploughman's lunch once...I was a bit worried that the ploughman would show up and it might end up in a bit a fight as he might be starving and angry but it turns out that there aren't any ploughmen with 10 miles of Central Cardif so my pickle, bread and cheese was safe. |
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"You know that feeling you get when you smell a bbq and you see meat cooking makes you salivate??
I wonder if vegans get that when cutting the lawn??
Do you get it when opening a tin of dog food?"
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The "V" brigade eat such things as 'Quorn' which in case you are confused is about as close to a mushroom as I am.(even tho I am a fun-guy)
The list of so called 'ingredients' reads like a mad scientists homework and processes used to manufacture it belong more in a lab than a food company.
I will just stick to beef.
(Ingredients: Beef)
(Warning Label: May contain...beef)
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yeah I've seen loads of beefs eating grass in a field before  its cow! BEEF is a word made up to help you disassociate what you're eating with the harmless and wonderful living creature! The irony huh!? |
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"You know that feeling you get when you smell a bbq and you see meat cooking makes you salivate??
I wonder if vegans get that when cutting the lawn?? "
Comedy gold. Not. |
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over a year ago
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"Vegans should be banned.
Okay I'll give you the bite you want.
Why?
Because they're vegans. "
I’m a chef/publican and I hate the “I’m vegan.... with a nut allergy... gluten intolerant ...and have a soya allergy.... also need low fat and sugar free......
Yeah alriiiiiight, maaaaate!
Got a lawn out the back that needs eating!! |
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over a year ago
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"Vegans should be banned.
Okay I'll give you the bite you want.
Why?
Because they're vegans.
I’m a chef/publican and I hate the “I’m vegan.... with a nut allergy... gluten intolerant ...and have a soya allergy.... also need low fat and sugar free......
Yeah alriiiiiight, maaaaate!
Got a lawn out the back that needs eating!! "
Yeah, how dare people have morals or *gasp* allergies |
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"Vegans should be banned.
Okay I'll give you the bite you want.
Why?
Because they're vegans.
I’m a chef/publican and I hate the “I’m vegan.... with a nut allergy... gluten intolerant ...and have a soya allergy.... also need low fat and sugar free......
Yeah alriiiiiight, maaaaate!
Got a lawn out the back that needs eating!! "
Aw you dont sound like a chef with imagination or a flexible repertoire . Wish you well though |
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"Vegans should be banned.
Okay I'll give you the bite you want.
Why?
Because they're vegans.
I’m a chef/publican and I hate the “I’m vegan.... with a nut allergy... gluten intolerant ...and have a soya allergy.... also need low fat and sugar free......
Yeah alriiiiiight, maaaaate!
Got a lawn out the back that needs eating!!
Yeah, how dare people have morals or *gasp* allergies "
Yes but it is quite hard to flavour food without bland meat juices and salt |
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I understand people with allergies must know what's in their food.
But fed up with people who order a veg burger moaning that they are traumatized if the restaurant gave them meat by mistake. If I order a burger and they give me salad it's not a tragedy..
Most of these people are attention seekers after a payout and free meal I think |
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"I understand people with allergies must know what's in their food.
But fed up with people who order a veg burger moaning that they are traumatized if the restaurant gave them meat by mistake. If I order a burger and they give me salad it's not a tragedy..
Most of these people are attention seekers after a payout and free meal I think "
If I order a meal I expect to get what I order. And anyone that is vegan for ethical reasons has every right to be fucking furious if served meat by mistake. Your salad analogy isn't really valid is it |
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"I understand people with allergies must know what's in their food.
But fed up with people who order a veg burger moaning that they are traumatized if the restaurant gave them meat by mistake. If I order a burger and they give me salad it's not a tragedy..
Most of these people are attention seekers after a payout and free meal I think
If I order a meal I expect to get what I order. And anyone that is vegan for ethical reasons has every right to be fucking furious if served meat by mistake. Your salad analogy isn't really valid is it"
I would expect to be served what I ordered but common sense says you look or check first. Surely if your that concerned you can open the bun |
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Anyone noticed that it’s two days in a row that this thread has been bumped by someone who is sooooooo loud about the fact he’s not a vegan and has no tolerance for anyone that is? Kind of seems a bit obsessed and very angry |
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"Anyone noticed that it’s two days in a row that this thread has been bumped by someone who is sooooooo loud about the fact he’s not a vegan and has no tolerance for anyone that is? Kind of seems a bit obsessed and very angry "
Absolutely. In my experience, the people that shout loudest about veganism aren't the vegans, but the people who inexplicably get offended by someone making a personal choice about how to live their life |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The "V" brigade eat such things as 'Quorn' which in case you are confused is about as close to a mushroom as I am.(even tho I am a fun-guy)
The list of so called 'ingredients' reads like a mad scientists homework and processes used to manufacture it belong more in a lab than a food company.
I will just stick to beef.
(Ingredients: Beef)
(Warning Label: May contain...beef)
yeah I've seen loads of beefs eating grass in a field before its cow! BEEF is a word made up to help you disassociate what you're eating with the harmless and wonderful living creature! The irony huh!?"
I call it cow, no need to disassociate here. Like wise I don't think of lamb as a lump of meat, I like to imagine it jumping around a field joyously bleating before I take a bite. Makes it taste that little bit fresher |
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"The angry eaters seem to be the vegans usually..
Angry about others diets but not their own "
You’re the one getting upset about what others choose to eat. |
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"Anyone noticed that it’s two days in a row that this thread has been bumped by someone who is sooooooo loud about the fact he’s not a vegan and has no tolerance for anyone that is? Kind of seems a bit obsessed and very angry
Absolutely. In my experience, the people that shout loudest about veganism aren't the vegans, but the people who inexplicably get offended by someone making a personal choice about how to live their life"
Im vegan and i dont give a dally what others eat. Happy to advise a healthy diet regardless of whether its meat based or not |
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"The angry eaters seem to be the vegans usually..
Angry about others diets but not their own "
What about Piers Morgan? He seems fairly angry about other people's diets and definitely isnt a vegan |
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"The "V" brigade eat such things as 'Quorn' which in case you are confused is about as close to a mushroom as I am.(even tho I am a fun-guy)
The list of so called 'ingredients' reads like a mad scientists homework and processes used to manufacture it belong more in a lab than a food company.
I will just stick to beef.
(Ingredients: Beef)
(Warning Label: May contain...beef)
yeah I've seen loads of beefs eating grass in a field before its cow! BEEF is a word made up to help you disassociate what you're eating with the harmless and wonderful living creature! The irony huh!?
I call it cow, no need to disassociate here. Like wise I don't think of lamb as a lump of meat, I like to imagine it jumping around a field joyously bleating before I take a bite. Makes it taste that little bit fresher "
Served rare, very pink, hint of blood and fresh vegan mint sauce.. |
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"Vegans should be banned.
Okay I'll give you the bite you want.
Why?
Because they're vegans. "
And being a vegan defines a person how?
You think youre superior as you eat meat.. please explain as thats bizarre |
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"Vegans should be banned.
Okay I'll give you the bite you want.
Why?
Because they're vegans.
I’m a chef/publican and I hate the “I’m vegan.... with a nut allergy... gluten intolerant ...and have a soya allergy.... also need low fat and sugar free......
Yeah alriiiiiight, maaaaate!
Got a lawn out the back that needs eating!! "
I would of thought as a chef you should be more aware of the many variety of foods and flavour and about nutrition and diets.. hummm |
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"Vegans should be banned.
Okay I'll give you the bite you want.
Why?
Because they're vegans.
I’m a chef/publican and I hate the “I’m vegan.... with a nut allergy... gluten intolerant ...and have a soya allergy.... also need low fat and sugar free......
Yeah alriiiiiight, maaaaate!
Got a lawn out the back that needs eating!!
I would of thought as a chef you should be more aware of the many variety of foods and flavour and about nutrition and diets.. hummm"
To be fair there are vegan restaurants and meat restaurants. Room for both but it's a commercial world. A restaurant can design a menu how it likes and whoever it likes |
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"The angry eaters seem to be the vegans usually..
Angry about others diets but not their own
What about Piers Morgan? He seems fairly angry about other people's diets and definitely isnt a vegan"
There was a novella published a few weeks ago, where the plot was about Piers having sex with a Greggs vegan sausage roll... |
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"The angry eaters seem to be the vegans usually..
Angry about others diets but not their own
What about Piers Morgan? He seems fairly angry about other people's diets and definitely isnt a vegan
There was a novella published a few weeks ago, where the plot was about Piers having sex with a Greggs vegan sausage roll..."
And that was funny because..? |
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"So what gets me about this is you get the meatless meatball the vegan tuna etc etc etc.
I'm sorry but it's not a meatball if no meat in it, it defo is not a tuna fish if it's a piece of bloody watermelon.
Each to there own I do like the odd veggie dish but call it what it is not false advertising stuff. "
To be fair how many toads are in holes? How many Wellington's are in a beef Wellington? Shepherd's in a pie or cottages for that matter? Angels in a delight or cake? You get my point?
Haven't read the whole thread so may have been mentioned before |
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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago
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"Vegans should be banned.
Okay I'll give you the bite you want.
Why?
Because they're vegans.
I’m a chef/publican and I hate the “I’m vegan.... with a nut allergy... gluten intolerant ...and have a soya allergy.... also need low fat and sugar free......
Yeah alriiiiiight, maaaaate!
Got a lawn out the back that needs eating!! "
I tend to agree with you, but to a point. I work in Hotel Management, on Nights, so the daily breakfast buffet set up is a key element of my work.
The hotel prides itself in catering for differing food hates etc. We offer Gluten free cereals, bread, even sausages plus Soya, Almond, and Coconut varieties of milk as Standard.
Anything else, we will cater for, so long as we get at least 24 hours notice. But what gets us, is the guest who asks if we have some particular Vegetarian or Vegan oriented foodstuff that's so off the scale knowledge wise, then they get in a strop when we say we don't have it.
On a positive note, we're getting repeat business from people who recognise we offer dietary breakfast options; these guests say they don't get that choice often elsewhere across the UK, with puzzled looks from other hotel's staff when asked for Dietary free options. These guests also know to advise us ahead of arrival if they require something different.
It comes down to knowledge of dietary tolerances and keeping abreast of trends too.
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"But what gets us, is the guest who asks if we have some particular Vegetarian or Vegan oriented foodstuff that's so off the scale knowledge wise, then they get in a strop when we say we don't have it.
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Genguy, curious abiut what requests you get?? |
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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago
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"But what gets us, is the guest who asks if we have some particular Vegetarian or Vegan oriented foodstuff that's so off the scale knowledge wise, then they get in a strop when we say we don't have it.
Genguy, curious abiut what requests you get?? "
It's simply down to specific Vege or Vegan foods or liquids that are a favourite of ONE guest, that isn't in the mainstream food choices or available locally.
Eg. we were asked by a guest in December, if we stocked a certain type of yoghurt? We said we didn't.
Turned out, it was a brand, known and supplied across the home County where this guest lived. But nowhere else! We asked if any alternative would do? No, it had to be that type!
We contacted the maker, but they didn't do Mail Order. The guest made a real song & dance complaint about her dietary requirements not being met! Come on!!!
Guest complai |
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"I think vegan and vegetarian cafes and restaurants will do really well if the food is good. I would eat there. If they allow meat eaters in that is."
I don't think they would expect you to fill in a questionnaire before you enter, most could not give a crap so long as you are respectful and polite... Much the same that all businesses would expect from their clientele |
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Most people who could eat a vegan treat are meat eaters, so it is commonsense to make products, including names, that will attract them. That one veggie burger or sausage roll may not be the total end point of them never eating animal again but it could be the inspirational moment when they start a new route.
The world has about 10 years to prevent the very worst of human caused catastrophic heating and greater levels of species extinction. Our use of a small numbers of animal types for our food is a massive part of the increasing damage that we are causing. We don't have to cause thos damage. We can limit the damage that we are causing, just by dietary changes. A vegan diet is nutritious and healthy. And it could create a better life for your children and other species in our world.
There's nothing wrong with helping to influence others to enjoy a healthier life. It doesn't need to mean that they eat Gregs vegan steak bakes every day. For the rest of their lives. Most vrgan food will be unlike meat but you will have choice and control over how you fix your menus. |
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"So what gets me about this is you get the meatless meatball the vegan tuna etc etc etc.
I'm sorry but it's not a meatball if no meat in it, it defo is not a tuna fish if it's a piece of bloody watermelon.
Each to there own I do like the odd veggie dish but call it what it is not false advertising stuff. "
It’s all about marketing and being able to sell as much of that product, therefore the familiar name remains whilst the product changes. If you mashed a load of veg into a ball at home you probably wouldn’t Call it a meatball. |
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"Dunno but King Canute tried to control nature and failed too"
Defeatist
Anyhow pollution is simply a euphemism for littering
It may or may not harm but it is always wilfully disrespectful bad manners and a sign of ignorant disregard and respect for any other entity beyond the self
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"How high above average temp are we at the moment?"
What is average temperature ?
Do you mean now?
During the last few ice ages?
From the Middle Age warnings?
From the last 100 years or 1000 years? |
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"Most people who could eat a vegan treat are meat eaters, so it is commonsense to make products, including names, that will attract them. That one veggie burger or sausage roll may not be the total end point of them never eating animal again but it could be the inspirational moment when they start a new route.
The world has about 10 years to prevent the very worst of human caused catastrophic heating and greater levels of species extinction. Our use of a small numbers of animal types for our food is a massive part of the increasing damage that we are causing. We don't have to cause thos damage. We can limit the damage that we are causing, just by dietary changes. A vegan diet is nutritious and healthy. And it could create a better life for your children and other species in our world.
There's nothing wrong with helping to influence others to enjoy a healthier life. It doesn't need to mean that they eat Gregs vegan steak bakes every day. For the rest of their lives. Most vrgan food will be unlike meat but you will have choice and control over how you fix your menus. "
So we need to eat a wider range if animals then  I am going to do my bit |
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"How high above average temp are we at the moment?
What is average temperature ?
Do you mean now?
During the last few ice ages?
From the Middle Age warnings?
From the last 100 years or 1000 years? "
There must be an average temperature, otherwise how do we know AGW is occurring? So therefore, we must know how high above this average it is, and how high above expected warming that figure is. |
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"How high above average temp are we at the moment?
What is average temperature ?
Do you mean now?
During the last few ice ages?
From the Middle Age warnings?
From the last 100 years or 1000 years?
There must be an average temperature, otherwise how do we know AGW is occurring? So therefore, we must know how high above this average it is, and how high above expected warming that figure is."
Tom hit the nail on the head. No one knows as it depends where the starting point is. Go back to the beginning of the planet then we are probably way down, last 100 years slightly above, last 1000 years then no one knows as we wasn't measuring it then but probably slightly above, last 100,000 years guess is about the same or slightly down but don't know.
All we do know is that the earth's temperature must fluctuate otherwise we would have no need for an average. |
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"How high above average temp are we at the moment?
What is average temperature ?
Do you mean now?
During the last few ice ages?
From the Middle Age warnings?
From the last 100 years or 1000 years?
There must be an average temperature, otherwise how do we know AGW is occurring? So therefore, we must know how high above this average it is, and how high above expected warming that figure is.
Tom hit the nail on the head. No one knows as it depends where the starting point is. Go back to the beginning of the planet then we are probably way down, last 100 years slightly above, last 1000 years then no one knows as we wasn't measuring it then but probably slightly above, last 100,000 years guess is about the same or slightly down but don't know.
All we do know is that the earth's temperature must fluctuate otherwise we would have no need for an average."
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"You can eat grass until the cows come home. It will make no difference to the climate in my opinion. We are screwed "
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"How high above average temp are we at the moment?
What is average temperature ?
Do you mean now?
During the last few ice ages?
From the Middle Age warnings?
From the last 100 years or 1000 years?
There must be an average temperature, otherwise how do we know AGW is occurring? So therefore, we must know how high above this average it is, and how high above expected warming that figure is.
Tom hit the nail on the head. No one knows as it depends where the starting point is. Go back to the beginning of the planet then we are probably way down, last 100 years slightly above, last 1000 years then no one knows as we wasn't measuring it then but probably slightly above, last 100,000 years guess is about the same or slightly down but don't know.
All we do know is that the earth's temperature must fluctuate otherwise we would have no need for an average."
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Then I'm afraid you opinion is factually incorrect. Animal agriculture is a huge contributor to climate change."
And so is nature |
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And so is nature "
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"How high above average temp are we at the moment?
Start with the last IPCC report, to get a grasp of the consensus and what was the situation and projections then. You've been referred to as a denier of anthropogenic global heating. Do you disagree with the settled scientific evidence of this? It's helpful to state your position, if that is driving your points.
No science is settled. There must be an answer. "
If you really want to know, below is an abstract from a paper which explains it. And the data there is from 20 years ago, now each new year is the new "hottest on record"
"We present the first analysis of global and hemispheric surface warming trends that attempts to quantify the major sources of uncertainty. We calculate global and hemispheric annual temperature anomalies by combining land surface air temperature and sea surface temperature (SST) through an optimal averaging technique. The technique allows estimation of uncertainties in the annual anomalies resulting from data gaps and random errors. We add independent uncertainties due to urbanisation, changing land-based observing practices and SST bias corrections. We test the accuracy of the SST bias corrections, which represent the largest source of uncertainty in the data, through a suite of climate model simulations. These indicate that the corrections are likely to be fairly accurate on an annual average and on large space scales. Allowing for serial correlation and annual uncertainties, the best linear fit to annual global surface temperature gives an increase of 0.61±0.16°C between 1861 and 2000." |
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"You can eat grass until the cows come home. It will make no difference to the climate in my opinion. We are screwed
Then I'm afraid you opinion is factually incorrect. Animal agriculture is a huge contributor to climate change.
And so is nature
True, largest co2 contributor is the termite. "
Termites are only thought to contribute approximately 4% methane and 2%, carbon dioxide to the total global fluxes. |
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Start with the last IPCC report, to get a grasp of the consensus and what was the situation and projections then. You've been referred to as a denier of anthropogenic global heating. Do you disagree with the settled scientific evidence of this? It's helpful to state your position, if that is driving your points.
No science is settled. There must be an answer.
If you really want to know, below is an abstract from a paper which explains it. And the data there is from 20 years ago, now each new year is the new "hottest on record"
"We present the first analysis of global and hemispheric surface warming trends that attempts to quantify the major sources of uncertainty. We calculate global and hemispheric annual temperature anomalies by combining land surface air temperature and sea surface temperature (SST) through an optimal averaging technique. The technique allows estimation of uncertainties in the annual anomalies resulting from data gaps and random errors. We add independent uncertainties due to urbanisation, changing land-based observing practices and SST bias corrections. We test the accuracy of the SST bias corrections, which represent the largest source of uncertainty in the data, through a suite of climate model simulations. These indicate that the corrections are likely to be fairly accurate on an annual average and on large space scales. Allowing for serial correlation and annual uncertainties, the best linear fit to annual global surface temperature gives an increase of 0.61±0.16°C between 1861 and 2000.""
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"How high above average temp are we at the moment?
Start with the last IPCC report, to get a grasp of the consensus and what was the situation and projections then. You've been referred to as a denier of anthropogenic global heating. Do you disagree with the settled scientific evidence of this? It's helpful to state your position, if that is driving your points.
No science is settled. There must be an answer.
If you really want to know, below is an abstract from a paper which explains it. And the data there is from 20 years ago, now each new year is the new "hottest on record"
"We present the first analysis of global and hemispheric surface warming trends that attempts to quantify the major sources of uncertainty. We calculate global and hemispheric annual temperature anomalies by combining land surface air temperature and sea surface temperature (SST) through an optimal averaging technique. The technique allows estimation of uncertainties in the annual anomalies resulting from data gaps and random errors. We add independent uncertainties due to urbanisation, changing land-based observing practices and SST bias corrections. We test the accuracy of the SST bias corrections, which represent the largest source of uncertainty in the data, through a suite of climate model simulations. These indicate that the corrections are likely to be fairly accurate on an annual average and on large space scales. Allowing for serial correlation and annual uncertainties, the best linear fit to annual global surface temperature gives an increase of 0.61±0.16°C between 1861 and 2000."
Yes we are getting warmer.. The clue is in the ice melt.. just like many times before... "
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"Dunno but King Canute tried to control nature and failed too"
No he didn't. The point of his actions were to show his people that he couldn't control the tides and that he wasn't as powerful as a god. |
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Start with the last IPCC report, to get a grasp of the consensus and what was the situation and projections then. You've been referred to as a denier of anthropogenic global heating. Do you disagree with the settled scientific evidence of this? It's helpful to state your position, if that is driving your points.
No science is settled. There must be an answer.
If you really want to know, below is an abstract from a paper which explains it. And the data there is from 20 years ago, now each new year is the new "hottest on record"
"We present the first analysis of global and hemispheric surface warming trends that attempts to quantify the major sources of uncertainty. We calculate global and hemispheric annual temperature anomalies by combining land surface air temperature and sea surface temperature (SST) through an optimal averaging technique. The technique allows estimation of uncertainties in the annual anomalies resulting from data gaps and random errors. We add independent uncertainties due to urbanisation, changing land-based observing practices and SST bias corrections. We test the accuracy of the SST bias corrections, which represent the largest source of uncertainty in the data, through a suite of climate model simulations. These indicate that the corrections are likely to be fairly accurate on an annual average and on large space scales. Allowing for serial correlation and annual uncertainties, the best linear fit to annual global surface temperature gives an increase of 0.61±0.16°C between 1861 and 2000."
Yes we are getting warmer.. The clue is in the ice melt.. just like many times before... "
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Start with the last IPCC report, to get a grasp of the consensus and what was the situation and projections then. You've been referred to as a denier of anthropogenic global heating. Do you disagree with the settled scientific evidence of this? It's helpful to state your position, if that is driving your points.
No science is settled. There must be an answer.
If you really want to know, below is an abstract from a paper which explains it. And the data there is from 20 years ago, now each new year is the new "hottest on record"
"We present the first analysis of global and hemispheric surface warming trends that attempts to quantify the major sources of uncertainty. We calculate global and hemispheric annual temperature anomalies by combining land surface air temperature and sea surface temperature (SST) through an optimal averaging technique. The technique allows estimation of uncertainties in the annual anomalies resulting from data gaps and random errors. We add independent uncertainties due to urbanisation, changing land-based observing practices and SST bias corrections. We test the accuracy of the SST bias corrections, which represent the largest source of uncertainty in the data, through a suite of climate model simulations. These indicate that the corrections are likely to be fairly accurate on an annual average and on large space scales. Allowing for serial correlation and annual uncertainties, the best linear fit to annual global surface temperature gives an increase of 0.61±0.16°C between 1861 and 2000."
Yes we are getting warmer.. The clue is in the ice melt.. just like many times before...
The clue is also in the increased amount of "natural disasters" we're seeing, the level of species extinction etc. So yes, what you eat really does make a difference, you just have to choose whether it'll be for the better or worse."
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"How high above average temp are we at the moment?
Start with the last IPCC report, to get a grasp of the consensus and what was the situation and projections then. You've been referred to as a denier of anthropogenic global heating. Do you disagree with the settled scientific evidence of this? It's helpful to state your position, if that is driving your points.
No science is settled. There must be an answer.
If you really want to know, below is an abstract from a paper which explains it. And the data there is from 20 years ago, now each new year is the new "hottest on record"
"We present the first analysis of global and hemispheric surface warming trends that attempts to quantify the major sources of uncertainty. We calculate global and hemispheric annual temperature anomalies by combining land surface air temperature and sea surface temperature (SST) through an optimal averaging technique. The technique allows estimation of uncertainties in the annual anomalies resulting from data gaps and random errors. We add independent uncertainties due to urbanisation, changing land-based observing practices and SST bias corrections. We test the accuracy of the SST bias corrections, which represent the largest source of uncertainty in the data, through a suite of climate model simulations. These indicate that the corrections are likely to be fairly accurate on an annual average and on large space scales. Allowing for serial correlation and annual uncertainties, the best linear fit to annual global surface temperature gives an increase of 0.61±0.16°C between 1861 and 2000."
Yes we are getting warmer.. The clue is in the ice melt.. just like many times before...
The clue is also in the increased amount of "natural disasters" we're seeing, the level of species extinction etc. So yes, what you eat really does make a difference, you just have to choose whether it'll be for the better or worse.
Which natural disasters would you use as evidence?"
I really think you're missing the point.
And feel free to do some research of your own if you'd like to find out, I have things to do aside from spoon feeding you scientific evidence for something that is clearly an issue.
It's quite easy to do for yourself, I'm sure most people could manage it. =)
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Start with the last IPCC report, to get a grasp of the consensus and what was the situation and projections then. You've been referred to as a denier of anthropogenic global heating. Do you disagree with the settled scientific evidence of this? It's helpful to state your position, if that is driving your points.
No science is settled. There must be an answer.
If you really want to know, below is an abstract from a paper which explains it. And the data there is from 20 years ago, now each new year is the new "hottest on record"
"We present the first analysis of global and hemispheric surface warming trends that attempts to quantify the major sources of uncertainty. We calculate global and hemispheric annual temperature anomalies by combining land surface air temperature and sea surface temperature (SST) through an optimal averaging technique. The technique allows estimation of uncertainties in the annual anomalies resulting from data gaps and random errors. We add independent uncertainties due to urbanisation, changing land-based observing practices and SST bias corrections. We test the accuracy of the SST bias corrections, which represent the largest source of uncertainty in the data, through a suite of climate model simulations. These indicate that the corrections are likely to be fairly accurate on an annual average and on large space scales. Allowing for serial correlation and annual uncertainties, the best linear fit to annual global surface temperature gives an increase of 0.61±0.16°C between 1861 and 2000."
Yes we are getting warmer.. The clue is in the ice melt.. just like many times before...
The clue is also in the increased amount of "natural disasters" we're seeing, the level of species extinction etc. So yes, what you eat really does make a difference, you just have to choose whether it'll be for the better or worse.
Which natural disasters would you use as evidence?
I really think you're missing the point.
And feel free to do some research of your own if you'd like to find out, I have things to do aside from spoon feeding you scientific evidence for something that is clearly an issue.
It's quite easy to do for yourself, I'm sure most people could manage it. =)
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"How high above average temp are we at the moment?
Start with the last IPCC report, to get a grasp of the consensus and what was the situation and projections then. You've been referred to as a denier of anthropogenic global heating. Do you disagree with the settled scientific evidence of this? It's helpful to state your position, if that is driving your points.
No science is settled. There must be an answer.
If you really want to know, below is an abstract from a paper which explains it. And the data there is from 20 years ago, now each new year is the new "hottest on record"
"We present the first analysis of global and hemispheric surface warming trends that attempts to quantify the major sources of uncertainty. We calculate global and hemispheric annual temperature anomalies by combining land surface air temperature and sea surface temperature (SST) through an optimal averaging technique. The technique allows estimation of uncertainties in the annual anomalies resulting from data gaps and random errors. We add independent uncertainties due to urbanisation, changing land-based observing practices and SST bias corrections. We test the accuracy of the SST bias corrections, which represent the largest source of uncertainty in the data, through a suite of climate model simulations. These indicate that the corrections are likely to be fairly accurate on an annual average and on large space scales. Allowing for serial correlation and annual uncertainties, the best linear fit to annual global surface temperature gives an increase of 0.61±0.16°C between 1861 and 2000."
Yes we are getting warmer.. The clue is in the ice melt.. just like many times before...
The clue is also in the increased amount of "natural disasters" we're seeing, the level of species extinction etc. So yes, what you eat really does make a difference, you just have to choose whether it'll be for the better or worse.
Which natural disasters would you use as evidence?
I really think you're missing the point.
And feel free to do some research of your own if you'd like to find out, I have things to do aside from spoon feeding you scientific evidence for something that is clearly an issue.
It's quite easy to do for yourself, I'm sure most people could manage it. =)
It's ok to say "I don't know". "
It is, but more accurately, you come across as quite argumentative and I don't want to spend my time fuelling it.
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"How high above average temp are we at the moment?
Start with the last IPCC report, to get a grasp of the consensus and what was the situation and projections then. You've been referred to as a denier of anthropogenic global heating. Do you disagree with the settled scientific evidence of this? It's helpful to state your position, if that is driving your points.
No science is settled. There must be an answer.
If you really want to know, below is an abstract from a paper which explains it. And the data there is from 20 years ago, now each new year is the new "hottest on record"
"We present the first analysis of global and hemispheric surface warming trends that attempts to quantify the major sources of uncertainty. We calculate global and hemispheric annual temperature anomalies by combining land surface air temperature and sea surface temperature (SST) through an optimal averaging technique. The technique allows estimation of uncertainties in the annual anomalies resulting from data gaps and random errors. We add independent uncertainties due to urbanisation, changing land-based observing practices and SST bias corrections. We test the accuracy of the SST bias corrections, which represent the largest source of uncertainty in the data, through a suite of climate model simulations. These indicate that the corrections are likely to be fairly accurate on an annual average and on large space scales. Allowing for serial correlation and annual uncertainties, the best linear fit to annual global surface temperature gives an increase of 0.61±0.16°C between 1861 and 2000."
Yes we are getting warmer.. The clue is in the ice melt.. just like many times before...
The clue is also in the increased amount of "natural disasters" we're seeing, the level of species extinction etc. So yes, what you eat really does make a difference, you just have to choose whether it'll be for the better or worse.
Which natural disasters would you use as evidence?
I really think you're missing the point.
And feel free to do some research of your own if you'd like to find out, I have things to do aside from spoon feeding you scientific evidence for something that is clearly an issue.
It's quite easy to do for yourself, I'm sure most people could manage it. =)
It's ok to say "I don't know".
It is, but more accurately, you come across as quite argumentative and I don't want to spend my time fuelling it.
Enjoy your night."
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"The "V" brigade eat such things as 'Quorn' which in case you are confused is about as close to a mushroom as I am.(even tho I am a fun-guy)
The list of so called 'ingredients' reads like a mad scientists homework and processes used to manufacture it belong more in a lab than a food company.
I will just stick to beef.
(Ingredients: Beef)
(Warning Label: May contain...beef) ooooohhhhhh i do love beef.
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No science is settled. There must be an answer.
If you really want to know, below is an abstract from a paper which explains it. And the data there is from 20 years ago, now each new year is the new "hottest on record"
"We present the first analysis of global and hemispheric surface warming trends that attempts to quantify the major sources of uncertainty. We calculate global and hemispheric annual temperature anomalies by combining land surface air temperature and sea surface temperature (SST) through an optimal averaging technique. The technique allows estimation of uncertainties in the annual anomalies resulting from data gaps and random errors. We add independent uncertainties due to urbanisation, changing land-based observing practices and SST bias corrections. We test the accuracy of the SST bias corrections, which represent the largest source of uncertainty in the data, through a suite of climate model simulations. These indicate that the corrections are likely to be fairly accurate on an annual average and on large space scales. Allowing for serial correlation and annual uncertainties, the best linear fit to annual global surface temperature gives an increase of 0.61±0.16°C between 1861 and 2000."
Yes we are getting warmer.. The clue is in the ice melt.. just like many times before...
The clue is also in the increased amount of "natural disasters" we're seeing, the level of species extinction etc. So yes, what you eat really does make a difference, you just have to choose whether it'll be for the better or worse.
Which natural disasters would you use as evidence?
I really think you're missing the point.
And feel free to do some research of your own if you'd like to find out, I have things to do aside from spoon feeding you scientific evidence for something that is clearly an issue.
It's quite easy to do for yourself, I'm sure most people could manage it. =)
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Start with the last IPCC report, to get a grasp of the consensus and what was the situation and projections then. You've been referred to as a denier of anthropogenic global heating. Do you disagree with the settled scientific evidence of this? It's helpful to state your position, if that is driving your points.
No science is settled. There must be an answer.
If you really want to know, below is an abstract from a paper which explains it. And the data there is from 20 years ago, now each new year is the new "hottest on record"
"We present the first analysis of global and hemispheric surface warming trends that attempts to quantify the major sources of uncertainty. We calculate global and hemispheric annual temperature anomalies by combining land surface air temperature and sea surface temperature (SST) through an optimal averaging technique. The technique allows estimation of uncertainties in the annual anomalies resulting from data gaps and random errors. We add independent uncertainties due to urbanisation, changing land-based observing practices and SST bias corrections. We test the accuracy of the SST bias corrections, which represent the largest source of uncertainty in the data, through a suite of climate model simulations. These indicate that the corrections are likely to be fairly accurate on an annual average and on large space scales. Allowing for serial correlation and annual uncertainties, the best linear fit to annual global surface temperature gives an increase of 0.61±0.16°C between 1861 and 2000."
Yes we are getting warmer.. The clue is in the ice melt.. just like many times before...
The clue is also in the increased amount of "natural disasters" we're seeing, the level of species extinction etc. So yes, what you eat really does make a difference, you just have to choose whether it'll be for the better or worse.
Which natural disasters would you use as evidence?
I really think you're missing the point.
And feel free to do some research of your own if you'd like to find out, I have things to do aside from spoon feeding you scientific evidence for something that is clearly an issue.
It's quite easy to do for yourself, I'm sure most people could manage it. =)
It's ok to say "I don't know".
It is, but more accurately, you come across as quite argumentative and I don't want to spend my time fuelling it.
Enjoy your night.
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