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A positive outcome for all I think. The taxpayer isn’t funding them, they’re paying back the cost of refurbishing their house and they’re free to chase commercial deals where his Royal connections with or without a HRH status will learn him plenty of cash. |
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By *amiss OP Couple
over a year ago
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"A positive outcome for all I think. The taxpayer isn’t funding them, they’re paying back the cost of refurbishing their house and they’re free to chase commercial deals where his Royal connections with or without a HRH status will learn him plenty of cash."
I think it sounds positive. |
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By *arksxMan
over a year ago
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"A positive outcome for all I think. The taxpayer isn’t funding them, they’re paying back the cost of refurbishing their house and they’re free to chase commercial deals where his Royal connections with or without a HRH status will learn him plenty of cash.
I think it sounds positive."
I'm not a fan of the Royal family but given the details that have been released, it seems pretty fair.
Basically abdication with some branding rights to spin the media machine. But odd given they don't won't media involvement???
The older liz gets the better courtier she becomes. Some shrewd moves on her part.
It's a shame Harry has to give up his military involvement. He did seem genuinely passionate about it.
The price of love... |
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By *amiss OP Couple
over a year ago
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"A positive outcome for all I think. The taxpayer isn’t funding them, they’re paying back the cost of refurbishing their house and they’re free to chase commercial deals where his Royal connections with or without a HRH status will learn him plenty of cash.
I think it sounds positive.
I'm not a fan of the Royal family but given the details that have been released, it seems pretty fair.
Basically abdication with some branding rights to spin the media machine. But odd given they don't won't media involvement???
The older liz gets the better courtier she becomes. Some shrewd moves on her part.
It's a shame Harry has to give up his military involvement. He did seem genuinely passionate about it.
The price of love... "
I think the Queen has handled this very well, whilst being conscious of the public opinion. I too think it a shame about the military situation. |
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By *rAitchMan
over a year ago
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"They have not lost the HRH titles, they are just not going to use them.
Will be handy for Harry when she fucks him off and he can start using his title again.
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Shall we run a book on that happening within the next couple of years?  |
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The monarchy and whoever is at the head of it will and always has ruthlessly disposed of (in various ways) anyone who threatens it.
QE2 is no different than all those who came before her. Whether Prince Harry or the Duke of Cambridge as he will be known realised this I don't know but given the history of the last couple of hundred years he'd be daft not to.
I wish them good luck in their exile, self imposed or otherwise. |
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"Will this be the end of the monachry?
Nope. The British monarchy has survived a lot worse than thisThat is right it have done that too."
The British monarchy is dreadfully slow to adapt to change. As an institution it fails to see the necessity until forced into it and is reactive rather than proactive. Until we have a succession of young kings or queens at its head it's likely to lag 50 years behind society for ever |
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I think following the disaster of Andrew cosying up to shady characters as a second son with no purpose or income stream, she didn't want a similar fate to happen to Harry.
Now they can go off and earn their own money. |
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it will still cost us millions for thier security, i couldnt care less about them, if they wanted to stay away from the press then they could have, other royals do. if you court the media then you cant complain when they hound you, i think they have both been very silly and nieve |
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"it will still cost us millions for thier security, i couldnt care less about them, if they wanted to stay away from the press then they could have, other royals do. if you court the media then you cant complain when they hound you, i think they have both been very silly and nieve"
They still need protection and they aren’t giving up ALL duties, just most. His mother died due to how the press hounded her as well as how the royal family treated her. Prince Harry doesn’t want the same for his wife & rightly so. The British media are racist cunts and will never change. |
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By *ornLordMan
over a year ago
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"it will still cost us millions for thier security, i couldnt care less about them, if they wanted to stay away from the press then they could have, other royals do. if you court the media then you cant complain when they hound you, i think they have both been very silly and nieve
They still need protection and they aren’t giving up ALL duties, just most. His mother died due to how the press hounded her as well as how the royal family treated her. Prince Harry doesn’t want the same for his wife & rightly so. The British media are racist cunts and will never change."
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over a year ago
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I don't think Liz will use a car crash this time, I'm thinking freak accident maybe some scaffolding megan walks under collapses.....they won't be able to connect that to Liz. |
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"it will still cost us millions for thier security, i couldnt care less about them, if they wanted to stay away from the press then they could have, other royals do. if you court the media then you cant complain when they hound you, i think they have both been very silly and nieve
They still need protection and they aren’t giving up ALL duties, just most. His mother died due to how the press hounded her as well as how the royal family treated her. Prince Harry doesn’t want the same for his wife & rightly so. The British media are racist cunts and will never change."
Do you really think she was hounded out because she's mixed race? Personally, I think it was more because she's American rather than the colour of her skin. |
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"it will still cost us millions for thier security, i couldnt care less about them, if they wanted to stay away from the press then they could have, other royals do. if you court the media then you cant complain when they hound you, i think they have both been very silly and nieve
They still need protection and they aren’t giving up ALL duties, just most. His mother died due to how the press hounded her as well as how the royal family treated her. Prince Harry doesn’t want the same for his wife & rightly so. The British media are racist cunts and will never change."
personaly i think the racist side has been over blown |
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"it will still cost us millions for thier security, i couldnt care less about them, if they wanted to stay away from the press then they could have, other royals do. if you court the media then you cant complain when they hound you, i think they have both been very silly and nieve
They still need protection and they aren’t giving up ALL duties, just most. His mother died due to how the press hounded her as well as how the royal family treated her. Prince Harry doesn’t want the same for his wife & rightly so. The British media are racist cunts and will never change.personaly i think the racist side has been over blown"
Have you read some of the comments?
Ghetto Meg, straight out of Compton Meg, hope the queen counts her silverware after her visit, Harry must get his hands caught up in her weave, her mum is a gangster and served jail time...and variations off.
I'm not a Meghan fan, something unlikeable about her but was rooting for Harry. She's not 19 and doe eyed. I don't know a black person who didn't see the racial attacks coming, so why didn't she? I must admit I gave her five years, didn't think she'd crack so quickly. Shocked at her treatment...said no black person.
Disclaimer: not an angry black woman with a chip on my shoulder. Three of the people I love are white; my partner, son-in-law and brother-in-law plus four of my grandchildren are biracial. |
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"A positive outcome for all I think. The taxpayer isn’t funding them, they’re paying back the cost of refurbishing their house and they’re free to chase commercial deals where his Royal connections with or without a HRH status will learn him plenty of cash.
I think it sounds positive.
I'm not a fan of the Royal family but given the details that have been released, it seems pretty fair.
Basically abdication with some branding rights to spin the media machine. But odd given they don't won't media involvement???
The older liz gets the better courtier she becomes. Some shrewd moves on her part.
It's a shame Harry has to give up his military involvement. He did seem genuinely passionate about it.
The price of love... "
having to give you his military side seemed quite an odd choice. X |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Lizzy & co. won't want any of their skeletons getting out of the cupboard (and they have a fair collection), so the deal has been done.
Let's hope M & H are left alone to live their lives, as long as that's what they want.
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By *arksxMan
over a year ago
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"A positive outcome for all I think. The taxpayer isn’t funding them, they’re paying back the cost of refurbishing their house and they’re free to chase commercial deals where his Royal connections with or without a HRH status will learn him plenty of cash.
I think it sounds positive.
I'm not a fan of the Royal family but given the details that have been released, it seems pretty fair.
Basically abdication with some branding rights to spin the media machine. But odd given they don't won't media involvement???
The older liz gets the better courtier she becomes. Some shrewd moves on her part.
It's a shame Harry has to give up his military involvement. He did seem genuinely passionate about it.
The price of love... having to give you his military side seemed quite an odd choice. X "
I though that hat at first
But think what the military stands for
For QUEEN and Country. Right or wrong their actions clearly are positioning themselves away from the monarchy.
You can do that and serve with honours. No matter how much harry like the lads or what charity you stand behind.
Out of all the loses on both sides I think this is the biggest.
It seems they wanted to pick and choose what media attention they got.take my picture at this charity event but not when I'm pick my kids up from school?
It's 2020 whether they like it or not the media doesn't work on gentleman's agreements anymore.
His brother has more scrutiny and he seems to manage with is it 3 kids now?
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By *amiss OP Couple
over a year ago
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"it will still cost us millions for thier security, i couldnt care less about them, if they wanted to stay away from the press then they could have, other royals do. if you court the media then you cant complain when they hound you, i think they have both been very silly and nieve"
Apparently about £600,000, they will be able to afford that themselves with the projected millions they can make. |
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By *amiss OP Couple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"Personally, I don't blame them and wish them well.
Think that it's a good agreement and should work for everyone.
I suspect Meghan didn't fully appreciate just how nasty the British press can be  "
I agree with you  |
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By *amiss OP Couple
over a year ago
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"So they should pay back the 2.4 million we spent on that house plus the 30 odd we spend on the wedding."
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They are paying back the 2.4 million, I don't know about the rest and I don't think we paid all that for the wedding, I think Charles paid for the rest,we did pay for the security though. |
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By *amiss OP Couple
over a year ago
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"I fear Harry has made a terrible mistake. I think he’s doing it all for the right reasons but i suspect he may regret it all, in the long run.
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I do wonder, but hope it works out for them |
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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago
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"Think this has been planned all along as his not a royal in the first place. But call me cynical "
You do realise DNA etc will have been done as soon as he was born? He would have disappeared pretty quick if he wasn't Charles' |
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"Think this has been planned all along as his not a royal in the first place. But call me cynical
You do realise DNA etc will have been done as soon as he was born? He would have disappeared pretty quick if he wasn't Charles'"
That rumour just will not die will it. |
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By *im himCouple (MM)
over a year ago
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"Think this has been planned all along as his not a royal in the first place. But call me cynical
You do realise DNA etc will have been done as soon as he was born? He would have disappeared pretty quick if he wasn't Charles'"
Yes that’s why his gone now
They just have had to wait for the right moment.
They have it now on a plate |
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"Think this has been planned all along as his not a royal in the first place. But call me cynical
You do realise DNA etc will have been done as soon as he was born? He would have disappeared pretty quick if he wasn't Charles'
Yes that’s why his gone now
They just have had to wait for the right moment.
They have it now on a plate "
What makes you think he isn't a member of the Royal family? His mother was Princess of Wales when he was born. His father is heir to the throne. |
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over a year ago
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Conspiracies aside all I see is a couple who have enormous wealth and privilege. Listening to their high class poor me moaning and in contrast the enormous press and public attention leaves me simply thinking why does anyone give a fuck. They’ll be fine whatever. |
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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago
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"Think this has been planned all along as his not a royal in the first place. But call me cynical
You do realise DNA etc will have been done as soon as he was born? He would have disappeared pretty quick if he wasn't Charles'
Yes that’s why his gone now
They just have had to wait for the right moment.
They have it now on a plate "
He would have disappeared as a baby if that was the case. If you look at pictures of Prince Phillip when he was younger ypu will see the resemblance.
Regarding them wanting to be independent etc, I think people need to leave them the fuck alone, remember, Harry was never going to be King anyway and he's lived his entire life with the press tearing his mother and now his wife to shreds. As soon as he chose to marry Meghan they began to do the same to him too. Why the fuck would he want to live in a country that does that to people?
I'm not completely positive Meghan is genuine but that's between them, I have a feeling it will all go tits up but that's his mistake to make. People need to stop being so bitter and bitchy, they are still a newly married couple and fist time parents, give them a break. |
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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago
Dudley |
"Think this has been planned all along as his not a royal in the first place. But call me cynical
You do realise DNA etc will have been done as soon as he was born? He would have disappeared pretty quick if he wasn't Charles'
Yes that’s why his gone now
They just have had to wait for the right moment.
They have it now on a plate
He would have disappeared as a baby if that was the case. If you look at pictures of Prince Phillip when he was younger ypu will see the resemblance.
Regarding them wanting to be independent etc, I think people need to leave them the fuck alone, remember, Harry was never going to be King anyway and he's lived his entire life with the press tearing his mother and now his wife to shreds. As soon as he chose to marry Meghan they began to do the same to him too. Why the fuck would he want to live in a country that does that to people?
I'm not completely positive Meghan is genuine but that's between them, I have a feeling it will all go tits up but that's his mistake to make. People need to stop being so bitter and bitchy, they are still a newly married couple and first time parents, give them a break. "
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By *amiss OP Couple
over a year ago
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"Think this has been planned all along as his not a royal in the first place. But call me cynical
You do realise DNA etc will have been done as soon as he was born? He would have disappeared pretty quick if he wasn't Charles'
Yes that’s why his gone now
They just have had to wait for the right moment.
They have it now on a plate
He would have disappeared as a baby if that was the case. If you look at pictures of Prince Phillip when he was younger ypu will see the resemblance.
Regarding them wanting to be independent etc, I think people need to leave them the fuck alone, remember, Harry was never going to be King anyway and he's lived his entire life with the press tearing his mother and now his wife to shreds. As soon as he chose to marry Meghan they began to do the same to him too. Why the fuck would he want to live in a country that does that to people?
I'm not completely positive Meghan is genuine but that's between them, I have a feeling it will all go tits up but that's his mistake to make. People need to stop being so bitter and bitchy, they are still a newly married couple and fist time parents, give them a break. "
Yep |
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"The monarchy and whoever is at the head of it will and always has ruthlessly disposed of (in various ways) anyone who threatens it.
QE2 is no different than all those who came before her. Whether Prince Harry or the Duke of Cambridge as he will be known realised this I don't know but given the history of the last couple of hundred years he'd be daft not to.
I wish them good luck in their exile, self imposed or otherwise. "
Er, Duke of Cambridge is his brother, William  |
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By *amiss OP Couple
over a year ago
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"The monarchy and whoever is at the head of it will and always has ruthlessly disposed of (in various ways) anyone who threatens it.
QE2 is no different than all those who came before her. Whether Prince Harry or the Duke of Cambridge as he will be known realised this I don't know but given the history of the last couple of hundred years he'd be daft not to.
I wish them good luck in their exile, self imposed or otherwise.
Er, Duke of Cambridge is his brother, William "
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By *imbo59seMan
over a year ago
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"The monarchy and whoever is at the head of it will and always has ruthlessly disposed of (in various ways) anyone who threatens it.
QE2 is no different than all those who came before her. Whether Prince Harry or the Duke of Cambridge as he will be known realised this I don't know but given the history of the last couple of hundred years he'd be daft not to.
I wish them good luck in their exile, self imposed or otherwise. "
Have I misinterpreted what you've said.......isn't Prince Harry to be known as the Duke of Sussex.....Prince William already being the Duke of Cambridge! |
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By *amiss OP Couple
over a year ago
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"The monarchy and whoever is at the head of it will and always has ruthlessly disposed of (in various ways) anyone who threatens it.
QE2 is no different than all those who came before her. Whether Prince Harry or the Duke of Cambridge as he will be known realised this I don't know but given the history of the last couple of hundred years he'd be daft not to.
I wish them good luck in their exile, self imposed or otherwise.
Have I misinterpreted what you've said.......isn't Prince Harry to be known as the Duke of Sussex.....Prince William already being the Duke of Cambridge!"
Yes Prince Harry is the Duke of Sussex |
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"The monarchy and whoever is at the head of it will and always has ruthlessly disposed of (in various ways) anyone who threatens it.
QE2 is no different than all those who came before her. Whether Prince Harry or the Duke of Cambridge as he will be known realised this I don't know but given the history of the last couple of hundred years he'd be daft not to.
I wish them good luck in their exile, self imposed or otherwise.
Have I misinterpreted what you've said.......isn't Prince Harry to be known as the Duke of Sussex.....Prince William already being the Duke of Cambridge!"
I
No, I made a mistake and should have said the Duke of Sussex  |
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By *amiss OP Couple
over a year ago
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"The monarchy and whoever is at the head of it will and always has ruthlessly disposed of (in various ways) anyone who threatens it.
QE2 is no different than all those who came before her. Whether Prince Harry or the Duke of Cambridge as he will be known realised this I don't know but given the history of the last couple of hundred years he'd be daft not to.
I wish them good luck in their exile, self imposed or otherwise.
Have I misinterpreted what you've said.......isn't Prince Harry to be known as the Duke of Sussex.....Prince William already being the Duke of Cambridge!I
No, I made a mistake and should have said the Duke of Sussex "
Oops |
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"The monarchy and whoever is at the head of it will and always has ruthlessly disposed of (in various ways) anyone who threatens it.
QE2 is no different than all those who came before her. Whether Prince Harry or the Duke of Cambridge as he will be known realised this I don't know but given the history of the last couple of hundred years he'd be daft not to.
I wish them good luck in their exile, self imposed or otherwise.
Have I misinterpreted what you've said.......isn't Prince Harry to be known as the Duke of Sussex.....Prince William already being the Duke of Cambridge!I
No, I made a mistake and should have said the Duke of Sussex
Oops "
I get carried away lol |
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By *amiss OP Couple
over a year ago
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"The monarchy and whoever is at the head of it will and always has ruthlessly disposed of (in various ways) anyone who threatens it.
QE2 is no different than all those who came before her. Whether Prince Harry or the Duke of Cambridge as he will be known realised this I don't know but given the history of the last couple of hundred years he'd be daft not to.
I wish them good luck in their exile, self imposed or otherwise.
Have I misinterpreted what you've said.......isn't Prince Harry to be known as the Duke of Sussex.....Prince William already being the Duke of Cambridge!I
No, I made a mistake and should have said the Duke of Sussex
Oops
I get carried away lol"
Bless ya  |
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By *amiss OP Couple
over a year ago
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Why the fuck would he want to live in a country that does that to people?
He wanted to, be it part time. The queen said no to a part time role"
There's also been the question of citizenship for them, not sure how it works, but my understanding is that you can only spend so much time in a country if you're not a citizen? I'm sure someone on here will know |
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By *amiss OP Couple
over a year ago
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"So they will lose their HRH titles, repay the 2.4 million for refurb of Frogmore house and not receive public funding. Thoughts..
Could not give a damn! good luck too them."
Yes good luck to them |
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"it will still cost us millions for thier security, i couldnt care less about them, if they wanted to stay away from the press then they could have, other royals do. if you court the media then you cant complain when they hound you, i think they have both been very silly and nieve
They still need protection and they aren’t giving up ALL duties, just most. His mother died due to how the press hounded her as well as how the royal family treated her. Prince Harry doesn’t want the same for his wife & rightly so. The British media are racist cunts and will never change.
Do you really think she was hounded out because she's mixed race? Personally, I think it was more because she's American rather than the colour of her skin."
I dont think her mixed race heritage had much to do with it. She isnt the first princess to be as such. We have had a mixed race queen before. Charlotte wife of george the third had mixed race through an African branch of tge Portuguese royal house. Her ancestor nargarita de castro y sousa was black. |
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"it will still cost us millions for thier security, i couldnt care less about them, if they wanted to stay away from the press then they could have, other royals do. if you court the media then you cant complain when they hound you, i think they have both been very silly and nieve
They still need protection and they aren’t giving up ALL duties, just most. His mother died due to how the press hounded her as well as how the royal family treated her. Prince Harry doesn’t want the same for his wife & rightly so. The British media are racist cunts and will never change.
Do you really think she was hounded out because she's mixed race? Personally, I think it was more because she's American rather than the colour of her skin.
I dont think her mixed race heritage had much to do with it. She isnt the first princess to be as such. We have had a mixed race queen before. Charlotte wife of george the third had mixed race through an African branch of tge Portuguese royal house. Her ancestor nargarita de castro y sousa was black."
I don't believe colour was involved. Nor being American or a divorcee. I think British people just watched Harry struggle with the death of his mother and the Diana lovers built him up in their hearts like a favourite son. And no woman was going to be good enough for him in their eyes. And now it's backfired as he is going. I don't blame him. People can shout as loud as they like that the press are to blame for hounding him/them. But if the British public weren't buying the presses rags/ watching their news shows then the press would have given up long ago |
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"So they will lose their HRH titles, repay the 2.4 million for refurb of Frogmore house and not receive public funding. Thoughts..
Who gives a f””k
Some do "
I care more for the road Sweepers the rubbish man, picks up my rubbish every day the fireman and nurses they do much more for me than the royal family |
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over a year ago
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"So they will lose their HRH titles, repay the 2.4 million for refurb of Frogmore house and not receive public funding. Thoughts..
Who gives a f””k
Some do
I care more for the road Sweepers the rubbish man, picks up my rubbish every day the fireman and nurses they do much more for me than the royal family"
That's good |
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"So they will lose their HRH titles, repay the 2.4 million for refurb of Frogmore house and not receive public funding. Thoughts..
Who gives a f””k
Some do
I care more for the road Sweepers the rubbish man, picks up my rubbish every day the fireman and nurses they do much more for me than the royal family"
The way I look at it is that it's possible to care about both without detracting from either.
I find the monarchy very interesting and while I can't say I care about Harry and Meghan I do find the whole thing fascinating |
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By *amiss OP Couple
over a year ago
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"So they will lose their HRH titles, repay the 2.4 million for refurb of Frogmore house and not receive public funding. Thoughts..
Who gives a f””k
Some do
I care more for the road Sweepers the rubbish man, picks up my rubbish every day the fireman and nurses they do much more for me than the royal family
The way I look at it is that it's possible to care about both without detracting from either.
I find the monarchy very interesting and while I can't say I care about Harry and Meghan I do find the whole thing fascinating"
Yes it is possible to care about whomever you want. I care for lots of different people but in different ways. I feel sad for Harry, because of losing his Mum in a tragic way and his mental health issues. Any amount of privilege and money won't change that |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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It seems they are going to sue people for taking pics of them, even though she walked towards the paps smiling in a public place.
I am guessing they will want the services of them when they launch their business and want the publicity |
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By *amiss OP Couple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"It seems they are going to sue people for taking pics of them, even though she walked towards the paps smiling in a public place.
I am guessing they will want the services of them when they launch their business and want the publicity "
Yes I see they're all outside their house, they'll never get rid of them. They can't pick and choose when they want them there.
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By *j1963Couple
over a year ago
leeds |
Controversial opinion but I'm not sure exactly how much they wanted to do it and how much they was just thinking about it... then there was all the queens pedo son headlined and maybe the queen was like we needed bigger story to take the attention away from him. She was like yep get rid of o e of the grandson to Canada |
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