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By *tella Heels OP TV/TS
over a year ago
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So most know I had cancer last 18 months, luckily I’m in remission now, but lost-an old friend to it over Christmas, it certainly makes you consider your mortality and reflect on life in general.
So am sat here this morning thinking...
Your lay in bed, to the outside world your dying, inside you know you will be in a dream, so what happens? Does everything just stop?
Or does your dream continue as maybe the dream world is part of the soul, the real you..
I have no idea, but what’s your thoughts? |
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By *tella Heels OP TV/TS
over a year ago
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"I'm sorry to hear of your loss but I think it all stops with death, there is no after. "
You see to most we all say something along these lines, but when death knocks at your door, trust me you hope there is more to it. |
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over a year ago
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"I'm sorry to hear of your loss but I think it all stops with death, there is no after.
You see to most we all say something along these lines, but when death knocks at your door, trust me you hope there is more to it."
Going back to nothingness isnt so bad, living for eternity might get boring.
Glad to hear you are recovering.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'm sorry to hear of your loss but I think it all stops with death, there is no after.
You see to most we all say something along these lines, but when death knocks at your door, trust me you hope there is more to it."
I'm sorry of your loss, Stella. I believe there is more.
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I am not a religious man so do not believe in the concept of the after life. I would like to believe that we go where we were most happy. Many people recall their happiest moments as they pass, perhaps it is the brains way of helping minimise the fear.
For me, I would be by a river where I spent much of my childhood, it would be summer and all those loved ones that I have lost would be there. That would be my eternity. |
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We are but carbon and water.
You die and like a plant , you nourish the ground. Unless you get cremated, in which case you will pollute the skies and rattle in a jar for eternity - unless someone kindly scatter you to ...... GUESS WHAT ..... nourish the plants.
Life is a cycle but we are as one. The dead are dead for ever but life goes on and they feed it.
It is something , that if thought about more often would lead people to be so different in all they do.
NOW is the time to live. TODAY is the day to smile. THIS MOMENT is the moment to connect with others , to not do things that make you sad and to seek joy in the simple beauty around you.
There is no trial run. This is as good as it gets.
LIVE ffs..... |
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over a year ago
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I don't believe in any after life. I think once we die we go into the soil and become food for other living things. The circle of life
Hopefully I'm wrong though |
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"I am not a religious man so do not believe in the concept of the after life. I would like to believe that we go where we were most happy. Many people recall their happiest moments as they pass, perhaps it is the brains way of helping minimise the fear.
For me, I would be by a river where I spent much of my childhood, it would be summer and all those loved ones that I have lost would be there. That would be my eternity. "
Question xx
How do you KNOW that , 'many people recall their happiest moments,' ... or that , 'brain minimises fear?'
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"I don't believe in any after life. I think once we die we go into the soil and become food for other living things. The circle of life
Hopefully I'm wrong though"
Why hope to be wrong ?
Surely that is a good thing ? |
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As a child there was a story circulating,
If you dream that you are falling from a block of flats and you don't wake up before you hit the floor - you die.
I spent ages trying to explain how ludicrous this was to mates some just didn't get it. |
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"I don't believe in any after life. I think once we die we go into the soil and become food for other living things. The circle of life
Hopefully I'm wrong though
Why hope to be wrong ?
Surely that is a good thing ?"
I mean, hope I'm wrong about nothing else. Would be nice if there was a place for the soul to go. If there is one |
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over a year ago
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"I dont believe in an afterlife but i hope there is one im owed a prize for my sacrifices"
If there is an afterlife, good chance there is a god, if there is a god, hes getting socked in the face |
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"I am not a religious man so do not believe in the concept of the after life. I would like to believe that we go where we were most happy. Many people recall their happiest moments as they pass, perhaps it is the brains way of helping minimise the fear.
For me, I would be by a river where I spent much of my childhood, it would be summer and all those loved ones that I have lost would be there. That would be my eternity.
Question xx
How do you KNOW that , 'many people recall their happiest moments,' ... or that , 'brain minimises fear?'
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I do not know categorically granny but unfortunately I have been with many people as they die, it was a daily part of my old life, part of the job. In many instances people would recall their life, sometimes this was prompted by the people around them, perhaps their way of letting go too, to recall memories of happier times.
Brain chemistry is not my forte, but it is amazing at releasing chemicals and inducing physical and emotional states which minimise pain, grief and fear. |
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"As a child there was a story circulating,
If you dream that you are falling from a block of flats and you don't wake up before you hit the floor - you die.
I spent ages trying to explain how ludicrous this was to mates some just didn't get it. "
I’d have spent ages pushing people out of bed to initiate the dream  |
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By *a LunaWoman
over a year ago
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I like to think we go to an airport departure lounge and meet up with all those we have loved and lost (including pets) and get to hug and catch up and then we board a “flight” on to our next celestial adventure, whatever that may be. |
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I (Luke) think that when I die, anything left of "me" will go back into to the world. From dust we came and to dust we shall return.
I am part of the great cycle of life. I have no reason to think that my consciousness will remain. I will become food for other life. Molecules in me now will become part of plants and creatures that come and go like us all. It will be that way while life still exists. Maybe one day my molecules will go out into space and form other stars and planets. In one sense I will exist forever. Amazing! |
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"I am not a religious man so do not believe in the concept of the after life. I would like to believe that we go where we were most happy. Many people recall their happiest moments as they pass, perhaps it is the brains way of helping minimise the fear.
For me, I would be by a river where I spent much of my childhood, it would be summer and all those loved ones that I have lost would be there. That would be my eternity.
Question xx
How do you KNOW that , 'many people recall their happiest moments,' ... or that , 'brain minimises fear?'
I do not know categorically granny but unfortunately I have been with many people as they die, it was a daily part of my old life, part of the job. In many instances people would recall their life, sometimes this was prompted by the people around them, perhaps their way of letting go too, to recall memories of happier times.
Brain chemistry is not my forte, but it is amazing at releasing chemicals and inducing physical and emotional states which minimise pain, grief and fear. "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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We are little more than flesh, bones and electrical signals. I think itll be like turning off the power, just nothing after that. It would be great if there was an afterlife but I doubt it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Bill Brysons book “The Body” makes for an interesting read. The section on the brain and it wonder would suggest that once it expires for whatever reason, that’s it you are gone and the rest becomes part of the circle of life.
As for heaven or hell then I think that’s for those who hold dear to a deity which if it floats your boat then crack on. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I dont believe in an afterlife but i hope there is one im owed a prize for my sacrifices
If there is an afterlife, good chance there is a god, if there is a god, hes getting socked in the face"
you can do it cut his fucking head off  |
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What if our current life is THE dream.
We wakes up (death) and find out that all that we have now (looks, profession, friends, wealth, health, families etc) are just characters in the dream.
Who are we when we wake up (after death)? Are we better or worse than our dream (current life)?
Oh..i dont want to think of it.
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"What if our current life is THE dream.
We wakes up (death) and find out that all that we have now (looks, profession, friends, wealth, health, families etc) are just characters in the dream.
Who are we when we wake up (after death)? Are we better or worse than our dream (current life)?
Oh..i dont want to think of it.
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Then don't. The only way you can prepare for death is by living well |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"So most know I had cancer last 18 months, luckily I’m in remission now, but lost-an old friend to it over Christmas, it certainly makes you consider your mortality and reflect on life in general.
So am sat here this morning thinking...
Your lay in bed, to the outside world your dying, inside you know you will be in a dream, so what happens? Does everything just stop?
Or does your dream continue as maybe the dream world is part of the soul, the real you..
I have no idea, but what’s your thoughts?"
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every element in your body was created in stars, scattered by super Nova and hauled together via gravity where chemistry worked it's wonder to create "you".
No element is lost, no energy dissipated but by all accounts "you" will be gone forever never to be seen again.
The thought of being meaningless has tormented mankind since our evolution. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I believe in reincarnation. But you could come back as anything during any time period! I'm looking forward to it, hopefully I will come back as something that can fly :D
I am sorry for your loss, I hope my message doesnt come across as to insensitive. We all have our lil ways to make ourselves smile |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So most know I had cancer last 18 months, luckily I’m in remission now, but lost-an old friend to it over Christmas, it certainly makes you consider your mortality and reflect on life in general.
So am sat here this morning thinking...
Your lay in bed, to the outside world your dying, inside you know you will be in a dream, so what happens? Does everything just stop?
Or does your dream continue as maybe the dream world is part of the soul, the real you..
I have no idea, but what’s your thoughts?.
every element in your body was created in stars, scattered by super Nova and hauled together via gravity where chemistry worked it's wonder to create "you".
No element is lost, no energy dissipated but by all accounts "you" will be gone forever never to be seen again.
The thought of being meaningless has tormented mankind since our evolution."
But as part of humanity we are merely tear drops on the face of eternity? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So most know I had cancer last 18 months, luckily I’m in remission now, but lost-an old friend to it over Christmas, it certainly makes you consider your mortality and reflect on life in general.
So am sat here this morning thinking...
Your lay in bed, to the outside world your dying, inside you know you will be in a dream, so what happens? Does everything just stop?
Or does your dream continue as maybe the dream world is part of the soul, the real you..
I have no idea, but what’s your thoughts?.
every element in your body was created in stars, scattered by super Nova and hauled together via gravity where chemistry worked it's wonder to create "you".
No element is lost, no energy dissipated but by all accounts "you" will be gone forever never to be seen again.
The thought of being meaningless has tormented mankind since our evolution.
But as part of humanity we are merely tear drops on the face of eternity?"
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If a tree falls in an empty forest does it make a noise?.
I don't know and I leave Philosophy for those that wish to dream, I'm very much living in reality.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So most know I had cancer last 18 months, luckily I’m in remission now, but lost-an old friend to it over Christmas, it certainly makes you consider your mortality and reflect on life in general.
So am sat here this morning thinking...
Your lay in bed, to the outside world your dying, inside you know you will be in a dream, so what happens? Does everything just stop?
Or does your dream continue as maybe the dream world is part of the soul, the real you..
I have no idea, but what’s your thoughts?.
every element in your body was created in stars, scattered by super Nova and hauled together via gravity where chemistry worked it's wonder to create "you".
No element is lost, no energy dissipated but by all accounts "you" will be gone forever never to be seen again.
The thought of being meaningless has tormented mankind since our evolution.
But as part of humanity we are merely tear drops on the face of eternity?.
If a tree falls in an empty forest does it make a noise?.
I don't know and I leave Philosophy for those that wish to dream, I'm very much living in reality.
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What is reality? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So most know I had cancer last 18 months, luckily I’m in remission now, but lost-an old friend to it over Christmas, it certainly makes you consider your mortality and reflect on life in general.
So am sat here this morning thinking...
Your lay in bed, to the outside world your dying, inside you know you will be in a dream, so what happens? Does everything just stop?
Or does your dream continue as maybe the dream world is part of the soul, the real you..
I have no idea, but what’s your thoughts?.
every element in your body was created in stars, scattered by super Nova and hauled together via gravity where chemistry worked it's wonder to create "you".
No element is lost, no energy dissipated but by all accounts "you" will be gone forever never to be seen again.
The thought of being meaningless has tormented mankind since our evolution.
But as part of humanity we are merely tear drops on the face of eternity?.
If a tree falls in an empty forest does it make a noise?.
I don't know and I leave Philosophy for those that wish to dream, I'm very much living in reality.
What is reality?"
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Haha, oh no I said I don't do philosophy.
I can give you the dictionary definition of reality if that helps you  |
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"So most know I had cancer last 18 months, luckily I’m in remission now, but lost-an old friend to it over Christmas, it certainly makes you consider your mortality and reflect on life in general.
So am sat here this morning thinking...
Your lay in bed, to the outside world your dying, inside you know you will be in a dream, so what happens? Does everything just stop?
Or does your dream continue as maybe the dream world is part of the soul, the real you..
I have no idea, but what’s your thoughts?"
I really never gave afterlife etc a thought but funny how you do when you lose a loved one. I lost my father in July to lung cancer 7 week's after diagnosis. He was a staunch Christian, only request were not to be cremated (apparently you continue to burn for all eternity,his word's) and no postmortem. We succeeded on both counts. Today I will go and visit his grave hoping that his headstone has arrived and to place some flowers. And really hoping there's and afterlife because I can't bare to think at this moment,my beautiful brave dad's life came to nothing.
Keep fighting the fight Stella, someone has to beat the fucker x |
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"I believe in reincarnation. But you could come back as anything during any time period! I'm looking forward to it, hopefully I will come back as something that can fly :D
I am sorry for your loss, I hope my message doesnt come across as to insensitive. We all have our lil ways to make ourselves smile"
Why do you believe in reincarnation ? Can we choose what to come back as ? |
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"So most know I had cancer last 18 months, luckily I’m in remission now, but lost-an old friend to it over Christmas, it certainly makes you consider your mortality and reflect on life in general.
So am sat here this morning thinking...
Your lay in bed, to the outside world your dying, inside you know you will be in a dream, so what happens? Does everything just stop?
Or does your dream continue as maybe the dream world is part of the soul, the real you..
I have no idea, but what’s your thoughts?.
every element in your body was created in stars, scattered by super Nova and hauled together via gravity where chemistry worked it's wonder to create "you".
No element is lost, no energy dissipated but by all accounts "you" will be gone forever never to be seen again.
The thought of being meaningless has tormented mankind since our evolution.
But as part of humanity we are merely tear drops on the face of eternity?.
If a tree falls in an empty forest does it make a noise?.
I don't know and I leave Philosophy for those that wish to dream, I'm very much living in reality.
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Philosopher are thinkers not dreamers. |
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I was in a similar situation 8 years ago - you do think very seriously about your own mortality. I didn’t really think about what would happen to me but I did think about everyone I would leave behind. The hardest part for me was writing goodbye letters and trying to give some sort of comfort to those I love.
I like to think that, as someone said, the conscious part of you goes on to somewhere else but the physical body is left behind.
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"Read Proof of heaven by Dr. Eben Alexander.
It’s a very interesting read."
It is, as are many of the scientific articles which debunk his claims with facts.
I thought the book presented good proofs for hallucination more than anything else. |
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"I believe in reincarnation. But you could come back as anything during any time period! I'm looking forward to it, hopefully I will come back as something that can fly :D
I am sorry for your loss, I hope my message doesnt come across as to insensitive. We all have our lil ways to make ourselves smile
Why do you believe in reincarnation ? Can we choose what to come back as ?"
I believe in reincarnation because it's a wonderful thought. Have you ever looked at an animal and wondered what life would be like from its perspective? I dont believe it's by choice, but random. Like a spirit unknowingly drifting from one life to another. As one door closes another one opens, as we die our spirits leave our body and enter something new |
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"So most know I had cancer last 18 months, luckily I’m in remission now, but lost-an old friend to it over Christmas, it certainly makes you consider your mortality and reflect on life in general.
So am sat here this morning thinking...
Your lay in bed, to the outside world your dying, inside you know you will be in a dream, so what happens? Does everything just stop?
Or does your dream continue as maybe the dream world is part of the soul, the real you..
I have no idea, but what’s your thoughts?.
every element in your body was created in stars, scattered by super Nova and hauled together via gravity where chemistry worked it's wonder to create "you".
No element is lost, no energy dissipated but by all accounts "you" will be gone forever never to be seen again.
The thought of being meaningless has tormented mankind since our evolution.
But as part of humanity we are merely tear drops on the face of eternity?.
If a tree falls in an empty forest does it make a noise?.
I don't know and I leave Philosophy for those that wish to dream, I'm very much living in reality.
Philosopher are thinkers not dreamers."
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I think it just stops with death, watching my dad take his last breath was heartbreaking and very final. Despite not being religious I still kinda had a hope for some kind of spiritual thing when the end came, but nothing. |
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"I believe in reincarnation. But you could come back as anything during any time period! I'm looking forward to it, hopefully I will come back as something that can fly :D
I am sorry for your loss, I hope my message doesnt come across as to insensitive. We all have our lil ways to make ourselves smile
Why do you believe in reincarnation ? Can we choose what to come back as ?
I believe in reincarnation because it's a wonderful thought. Have you ever looked at an animal and wondered what life would be like from its perspective? I dont believe it's by choice, but random. Like a spirit unknowingly drifting from one life to another. As one door closes another one opens, as we die our spirits leave our body and enter something new"
What lovely thoughts. So does the drifting spirit enter the new body as the new body is being born or does it enter some time later or earlier ? |
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"So most know I had cancer last 18 months, luckily I’m in remission now, but lost-an old friend to it over Christmas, it certainly makes you consider your mortality and reflect on life in general.
So am sat here this morning thinking...
Your lay in bed, to the outside world your dying, inside you know you will be in a dream, so what happens? Does everything just stop?
Or does your dream continue as maybe the dream world is part of the soul, the real you..
I have no idea, but what’s your thoughts?.
every element in your body was created in stars, scattered by super Nova and hauled together via gravity where chemistry worked it's wonder to create "you".
No element is lost, no energy dissipated but by all accounts "you" will be gone forever never to be seen again.
The thought of being meaningless has tormented mankind since our evolution.
But as part of humanity we are merely tear drops on the face of eternity?.
If a tree falls in an empty forest does it make a noise?.
I don't know and I leave Philosophy for those that wish to dream, I'm very much living in reality.
Philosopher are thinkers not dreamers..
Well we're all thinkers "
No we are really not. |
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"So most know I had cancer last 18 months, luckily I’m in remission now, but lost-an old friend to it over Christmas, it certainly makes you consider your mortality and reflect on life in general.
So am sat here this morning thinking...
Your lay in bed, to the outside world your dying, inside you know you will be in a dream, so what happens? Does everything just stop?
Or does your dream continue as maybe the dream world is part of the soul, the real you..
I have no idea, but what’s your thoughts?.
every element in your body was created in stars, scattered by super Nova and hauled together via gravity where chemistry worked it's wonder to create "you".
No element is lost, no energy dissipated but by all accounts "you" will be gone forever never to be seen again.
The thought of being meaningless has tormented mankind since our evolution.
But as part of humanity we are merely tear drops on the face of eternity?.
If a tree falls in an empty forest does it make a noise?.
I don't know and I leave Philosophy for those that wish to dream, I'm very much living in reality.
Philosopher are thinkers not dreamers..
Well we're all thinkers
No we are really not. "
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By *athan 123Man
over a year ago
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"So most know I had cancer last 18 months, luckily I’m in remission now, but lost-an old friend to it over Christmas, it certainly makes you consider your mortality and reflect on life in general.
So am sat here this morning thinking...
Your lay in bed, to the outside world your dying, inside you know you will be in a dream, so what happens? Does everything just stop?
Or does your dream continue as maybe the dream world is part of the soul, the real you..
I have no idea, but what’s your thoughts?"
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By (user no longer on site)
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I know you live on in the hearts and minds of those close to you that you leave behind. I have no idea what happens when you pass on but what you do in life influences those you leave behind.
My heart and mind has many thoughts of loved ones to cherish.
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"I believe in reincarnation. But you could come back as anything during any time period! I'm looking forward to it, hopefully I will come back as something that can fly :D
I am sorry for your loss, I hope my message doesnt come across as to insensitive. We all have our lil ways to make ourselves smile
Why do you believe in reincarnation ? Can we choose what to come back as ?
I believe in reincarnation because it's a wonderful thought. Have you ever looked at an animal and wondered what life would be like from its perspective? I dont believe it's by choice, but random. Like a spirit unknowingly drifting from one life to another. As one door closes another one opens, as we die our spirits leave our body and enter something new
What lovely thoughts. So does the drifting spirit enter the new body as the new body is being born or does it enter some time later or earlier ?"
I like to believe the spirit enters as it is being born. When its eyes first open is when you begin to see the real world again, whatever you may be. |
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I am positive that this is it and there's nothing after death.
I lost 2 close family members as a teenager, one was only 45, so have always been well aware of my mortality.
One of the reasons I try to make the most of what life offers and to be as nice and kind to others as possible. |
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"So most know I had cancer last 18 months, luckily I’m in remission now, but lost-an old friend to it over Christmas, it certainly makes you consider your mortality and reflect on life in general.
So am sat here this morning thinking...
Your lay in bed, to the outside world your dying, inside you know you will be in a dream, so what happens? Does everything just stop?
Or does your dream continue as maybe the dream world is part of the soul, the real you..
I have no idea, but what’s your thoughts?.
every element in your body was created in stars, scattered by super Nova and hauled together via gravity where chemistry worked it's wonder to create "you".
No element is lost, no energy dissipated but by all accounts "you" will be gone forever never to be seen again.
The thought of being meaningless has tormented mankind since our evolution.
But as part of humanity we are merely tear drops on the face of eternity?.
If a tree falls in an empty forest does it make a noise?.
I don't know and I leave Philosophy for those that wish to dream, I'm very much living in reality.
Philosopher are thinkers not dreamers..
Well we're all thinkers
No we are really not. "
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I suppose you didn't think about that response then and it was a cerebellum response although technically even that's a thought just an un-conscious one which means dreams are thoughts so in reality all dreamers are thinkers but not all thinkers are dreamers.
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By (user no longer on site)
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I think this life is all there is. I wish I was wrong but I am certain that there's nothing for us after this. So, you have make the most of every moment and spend time with people who make you happy. |
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By *tella Heels OP TV/TS
over a year ago
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"So most know I had cancer last 18 months, luckily I’m in remission now, but lost-an old friend to it over Christmas, it certainly makes you consider your mortality and reflect on life in general.
So am sat here this morning thinking...
Your lay in bed, to the outside world your dying, inside you know you will be in a dream, so what happens? Does everything just stop?
Or does your dream continue as maybe the dream world is part of the soul, the real you..
I have no idea, but what’s your thoughts?
I really never gave afterlife etc a thought but funny how you do when you lose a loved one. I lost my father in July to lung cancer 7 week's after diagnosis. He was a staunch Christian, only request were not to be cremated (apparently you continue to burn for all eternity,his word's) and no postmortem. We succeeded on both counts. Today I will go and visit his grave hoping that his headstone has arrived and to place some flowers. And really hoping there's and afterlife because I can't bare to think at this moment,my beautiful brave dad's life came to nothing.
Keep fighting the fight Stella, someone has to beat the fucker x"
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"I believe in reincarnation. But you could come back as anything during any time period! I'm looking forward to it, hopefully I will come back as something that can fly :D
I am sorry for your loss, I hope my message doesnt come across as to insensitive. We all have our lil ways to make ourselves smile
Why do you believe in reincarnation ? Can we choose what to come back as ?
I believe in reincarnation because it's a wonderful thought. Have you ever looked at an animal and wondered what life would be like from its perspective? I dont believe it's by choice, but random. Like a spirit unknowingly drifting from one life to another. As one door closes another one opens, as we die our spirits leave our body and enter something new
What lovely thoughts. So does the drifting spirit enter the new body as the new body is being born or does it enter some time later or earlier ?
I like to believe the spirit enters as it is being born. When its eyes first open is when you begin to see the real world again, whatever you may be."
Are there enough spirits to go round ? Or enough births ? I mean are there spirits waiting in the wings for babies to be born ? Do we get to pick the baby we go into ? I mean if many people die in a tragedy or war ..... where are all the babies waiting to take their spirit ? It's a toughie. |
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"So most know I had cancer last 18 months, luckily I’m in remission now, but lost-an old friend to it over Christmas, it certainly makes you consider your mortality and reflect on life in general.
So am sat here this morning thinking...
Your lay in bed, to the outside world your dying, inside you know you will be in a dream, so what happens? Does everything just stop?
Or does your dream continue as maybe the dream world is part of the soul, the real you..
I have no idea, but what’s your thoughts?.
every element in your body was created in stars, scattered by super Nova and hauled together via gravity where chemistry worked it's wonder to create "you".
No element is lost, no energy dissipated but by all accounts "you" will be gone forever never to be seen again.
The thought of being meaningless has tormented mankind since our evolution.
But as part of humanity we are merely tear drops on the face of eternity?.
If a tree falls in an empty forest does it make a noise?.
I don't know and I leave Philosophy for those that wish to dream, I'm very much living in reality.
Philosopher are thinkers not dreamers..
Well we're all thinkers
No we are really not. .
I suppose you didn't think about that response then and it was a cerebellum response although technically even that's a thought just an un-conscious one which means dreams are thoughts so in reality all dreamers are thinkers but not all thinkers are dreamers.
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Sorry to hear that OP.
Just recently two twin brothers were found hanging in the woods where they used to play when they were children.
One of them found out he had cancer and they both ended their lives. So sad they were only 32.
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I’ve had some real strange experiences at the point of death working with people in hospice and palliative/end of life care.
If I weigh up all these things I will deffo say there’s enough evidence for me to believe in something after death.
One day I will find out but for now I’m saying 110% YES |
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"The woods decay, the woods decay and fall,
The vapours weep their burthen to the ground,
Man comes and tills the field and lies beneath,
And after many a summer dies the swan.
Me only cruel immortality
Consumes: I wither slowly in thine arms,
Here at the quiet limit of the world,
A white-hair'd shadow roaming like a dream
The ever-silent spaces of the East,
Far-folded mists, and gleaming halls of morn." |
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"So most know I had cancer last 18 months, luckily I’m in remission now, but lost-an old friend to it over Christmas, it certainly makes you consider your mortality and reflect on life in general.
So am sat here this morning thinking...
Your lay in bed, to the outside world your dying, inside you know you will be in a dream, so what happens? Does everything just stop?
Or does your dream continue as maybe the dream world is part of the soul, the real you..
I have no idea, but what’s your thoughts?"
Hubby was diagnosed last year and has struggled with chemo screwing his blood work up. He's an atheist, so to him it's very simple. You die. It's exactly the same as before you were born. You won't know anything about it. " you're born, you die, the bit in the middle is called life" |
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Humans have likely wanted there to be something after our death for as long as we've had consciousness, especially as for much of our existence we've lived through harsh times, with limited control over our destiny. Those desires helped others to take more control over us and society, with religious beliefs that promised much in the afterlife, particularly if we behaved and made their leadership easier for them.
We seem to be just another form of matter, in a universe, which will itself come to an end at some point, similarly to the billions of others out there. Each collection of matter that is formed into an animal, that will ultimately be recycled, whilst the universes await their outcome, doesn't seem to suggest that those assembled bits of matter have anything but a finite time and place when they will be a person, with that meaningful consciousness intact. Afterwards, it's likely that it's just an infinitesimally microscopic aspect of matter's existence.
I'd like there to be a an existence that's continued after death but I think it's unlikely and a desire sparked by our culture. |
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"So most know I had cancer last 18 months, luckily I’m in remission now, but lost-an old friend to it over Christmas, it certainly makes you consider your mortality and reflect on life in general.
So am sat here this morning thinking...
Your lay in bed, to the outside world your dying, inside you know you will be in a dream, so what happens? Does everything just stop?
Or does your dream continue as maybe the dream world is part of the soul, the real you..
I have no idea, but what’s your thoughts?.
every element in your body was created in stars, scattered by super Nova and hauled together via gravity where chemistry worked it's wonder to create "you".
No element is lost, no energy dissipated but by all accounts "you" will be gone forever never to be seen again.
The thought of being meaningless has tormented mankind since our evolution.
But as part of humanity we are merely tear drops on the face of eternity?.
If a tree falls in an empty forest does it make a noise?.
I don't know and I leave Philosophy for those that wish to dream, I'm very much living in reality.
Philosopher are thinkers not dreamers..
Well we're all thinkers
No we are really not. .
I suppose you didn't think about that response then and it was a cerebellum response although technically even that's a thought just an un-conscious one which means dreams are thoughts so in reality all dreamers are thinkers but not all thinkers are dreamers.
I suppose you are wrong."
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I haven't considered it but hell you could be right, I just highly doubt it.
Perhaps if you offered more than one line nonsense?. |
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"I’ve had some real strange experiences at the point of death working with people in hospice and palliative/end of life care.
If I weigh up all these things I will deffo say there’s enough evidence for me to believe in something after death.
One day I will find out but for now I’m saying 110% YES"
When I was nursing I also came across some Fairly regular happenings as patients were dying
Seeing people they’ve lost by their bed coming to se them etc
They were happy !
Not all on medication or confused either
I’m not religious at all and in truth NO ONE can tell you definitely if there is anything else and some people seem like they have this deep need to absolutely tell you there isn’t like the thought of someone considering anything else will end the world but I do think there are many possibilities that we can’t possibly know about and science hasn’t and can’t Prove or disprove absolutely everything that we don’t understand the same way as people stating there’s nothing else in the entire universe besides us
We do all have different energy / souls / consciousness that make us unique and maybe that is released from our physical body at death ,
Who knows ?
There are all manner of unexplained events / experiences happening all the time and that I find interesting and possibly a comfort too
I’ve had a stranger come to me to tell me something accurate and comforting about someone young In our family that we have lost at a time when I was in deep grief and they didn’t know me or my name so that was strange
Also an old man I knew who was literally the most stoical down to earth old Yorkshire man told me how shocked he was to wake up months after the death of his wife to see her sat on his bed .
He said it was very clear and real and she smiled and was gone again .
He said he just knew he had to believe it as it wasn’t dream like and he wasn’t in a moment of sadness etc , more just like an observation followed by interest .
If we do die entirely then as someone with a warm heart here mentioned earlier , you will never die in the hearts and minds of those who love you .
My loved ones are in my heart and mind every day as my most precious memories and I hold them close as part of who I am and my until I too leave this earth with them .
And nothing can change how real or loved they were / are to me x
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"The essential ‘you’, the bit in your head that talks to itself doesn’t die, just your body does. You’ll float to another dimension. "
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"The essential ‘you’, the bit in your head that talks to itself doesn’t die, just your body does. You’ll float to another dimension.
Cool Steve
Can you please reference the data that proves that complete guess has a single gram of validation?"
Obviously, we have no idea what happens to our soul, what makes us the person we are, after death.
However, Alzheimers can rob you of that before you die - and float off to another dimension; which would be very ironic for those who believe 'they' will do such a thing.
You have no concept of being conscious until you have memories; you're robbed of your earliest ones by infant amnesia - and we still don't understand why.
Nobody seems to care about where their soul was before they were born; certainly, they have no memory of it.
As far as the body goes, your atoms were there before you were born and they'll be recycled after you die.
That means we really are all equal and that none of us go to waste. |
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"So most know I had cancer last 18 months, luckily I’m in remission now, but lost-an old friend to it over Christmas, it certainly makes you consider your mortality and reflect on life in general.
So am sat here this morning thinking...
Your lay in bed, to the outside world your dying, inside you know you will be in a dream, so what happens? Does everything just stop?
Or does your dream continue as maybe the dream world is part of the soul, the real you..
I have no idea, but what’s your thoughts?.
every element in your body was created in stars, scattered by super Nova and hauled together via gravity where chemistry worked it's wonder to create "you".
No element is lost, no energy dissipated but by all accounts "you" will be gone forever never to be seen again.
The thought of being meaningless has tormented mankind since our evolution.
But as part of humanity we are merely tear drops on the face of eternity?.
If a tree falls in an empty forest does it make a noise?.
I don't know and I leave Philosophy for those that wish to dream, I'm very much living in reality.
Philosopher are thinkers not dreamers..
Well we're all thinkers
No we are really not. .
I suppose you didn't think about that response then and it was a cerebellum response although technically even that's a thought just an un-conscious one which means dreams are thoughts so in reality all dreamers are thinkers but not all thinkers are dreamers.
I suppose you are wrong..
I haven't considered it but hell you could be right, I just highly doubt it.
Perhaps if you offered more than one line nonsense?. "
There is more sense in my one line than on the rest of the post.
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I am not sure what happens, but whatever it is I hope it is beautiful.
I went to see my Mum a long term COPD sufferer and as we sat having a cup of tea she said to me "Shelley, I don't think I will be here next week, I had a visit from your Dad he told me it won't be long, he is getting things ready for me for Monday"
I literally laughed at her... told her it was daft, Dad died 22 years ago.
That Friday she got taken ill and rushed into Hospital, slipped into a coma and they turned her life support off on the Monday.
Not wanting negative comments thanks, I know what some peoples opinions are on these matters, just relaying my experience... and a conversation had with someone dying.
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I don't think it really matters what anyone else says it's what you believe in, if your last moments on earth are in a place of serenity and happiness at the thought of being either.
In eternal happiness.
Reborn.
Food for the circle of life supplying nutrition for other life thus never truly dying.
Whatever you believe that's what's important.
And if there is nothing and you have no knowledge of nothing just eternal nothing then it's not going to matter as you won't be aware.
We are just atom's everything is essentially the same once our thoughts have gone we become one with the universe or atoms continue to exist in one way or another.
Dust,sand, trees,mud,water, planets, star's everything is made from cosmic dust it's where we came from its where we are going, until once again there's truly nothing in the universe and it's just a black empty void all of us, everything that's ever been or going to be will still be here in one way or another no matter how tiny and small those pieces are.
Peace and love .
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"I am not sure what happens, but whatever it is I hope it is beautiful.
I went to see my Mum a long term COPD sufferer and as we sat having a cup of tea she said to me "Shelley, I don't think I will be here next week, I had a visit from your Dad he told me it won't be long, he is getting things ready for me for Monday"
I literally laughed at her... told her it was daft, Dad died 22 years ago.
That Friday she got taken ill and rushed into Hospital, slipped into a coma and they turned her life support off on the Monday.
Not wanting negative comments thanks, I know what some peoples opinions are on these matters, just relaying my experience... and a conversation had with someone dying.
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Yes I’ve had strang things happen that now make perfect sense and I agree about the comments
There’s no need to belittle or attack anyone’s belief or experience x |
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"I don't think it really matters what anyone else says it's what you believe in, if your last moments on earth are in a place of serenity and happiness at the thought of being either.
In eternal happiness.
Reborn.
Food for the circle of life supplying nutrition for other life thus never truly dying.
Whatever you believe that's what's important.
And if there is nothing and you have no knowledge of nothing just eternal nothing then it's not going to matter as you won't be aware.
We are just atom's everything is essentially the same once our thoughts have gone we become one with the universe or atoms continue to exist in one way or another.
Dust,sand, trees,mud,water, planets, star's everything is made from cosmic dust it's where we came from its where we are going, until once again there's truly nothing in the universe and it's just a black empty void all of us, everything that's ever been or going to be will still be here in one way or another no matter how tiny and small those pieces are.
Peace and love .
To quote Bill and Ted.
"Be excellent to each other""
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Culturally, I believe in reincarnation. I have no idea what I was before this life, and no idea what I'll be next. I just know that whatever I'm going to be, I'll try to be the best of it. Personally, I'm hoping to be a duck. |
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I actually died 10 years ago having a run of the mill operation I had a bad reaction to the sedation I was out for a whole 2 minutes haha
I do recall some strange crazy things but can't put my finger on it a bit like knowing but not knowing it's odd and still haunts me every now and then with a gaunt empty feeling
I'd like to think that something happens but will obviously never know until it's our time
Live every day to it's fill appreciate what you have and who you have around you I try to do at least one good deed a day just incase something or someone is watching |
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"Culturally, I believe in reincarnation. I have no idea what I was before this life, and no idea what I'll be next. I just know that whatever I'm going to be, I'll try to be the best of it. Personally, I'm hoping to be a duck."
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"We are but carbon and water.
You die and like a plant , you nourish the ground. Unless you get cremated, in which case you will pollute the skies and rattle in a jar for eternity - unless someone kindly scatter you to ...... GUESS WHAT ..... nourish the plants.
Life is a cycle but we are as one. The dead are dead for ever but life goes on and they feed it.
It is something , that if thought about more often would lead people to be so different in all they do.
NOW is the time to live. TODAY is the day to smile. THIS MOMENT is the moment to connect with others , to not do things that make you sad and to seek joy in the simple beauty around you.
There is no trial run. This is as good as it gets.
LIVE ffs..... "
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"So most know I had cancer last 18 months, luckily I’m in remission now, but lost-an old friend to it over Christmas, it certainly makes you consider your mortality and reflect on life in general.
So am sat here this morning thinking...
Your lay in bed, to the outside world your dying, inside you know you will be in a dream, so what happens? Does everything just stop?
Or does your dream continue as maybe the dream world is part of the soul, the real you..
I have no idea, but what’s your thoughts?"
i have never dreamt except if you include day dreaming but you get one life IMHO their is no afterlife enjoy the one you have the best you can  |
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I lost my partner last year at age 48.
I have no idea if there is a "better place" or an afterlife.
The only thing his death taught me is that life is short, tomorrow is not a certainty and to live each day to the full.
Enjoy it and make the most of it while you can as you don't how long you have. |
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"I'm sorry to hear of your loss but I think it all stops with death, there is no after.
You see to most we all say something along these lines, but when death knocks at your door, trust me you hope there is more to it."
No, Not everyone.. My father never believed in there being something else & when he knew his time was short gave strict instructions. Basic as basic can be coffin, no dressing him up leave him in what he was wearing & cremation.
“What music dad?”
“I don’t care, I won’t be there”
Can’t be many go wearing boxers & a vest top..
One of the things we often spoke about was religion & how fucked up it was & his thoughts were you didn’t have to believe, you didn’t have to be religious, you just needed to know right from wrong & always err to what you thought was the right. Then if there is a hereafter you’d get in anyway as you’d been a good person. Probably more chance than the average Catholic priest I’d say....
Do we have a soul??? I don’t think so, it’s just another way we try & separate ourselves out from all the other life & to Male is feel “Special”. imo it’s arrogant. If we have souls we must allow for the fact any animal can have a soul. Remember that when eating your T-Bone steak or lamb chop.
You never go anywhere though, the atoms in you could have been atoms in a snowdrop previously. An animal, a tree..anything & everything you are still here somewhere, everywhere..
Best Wishes OP
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Don’t want to be “that guy” but I had a friend who drowned and was resuscitated he was properly dead and not just unconscious. When I asked him what it was like he said he remembered nothing.
That terrifies me |
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So am sat here this morning thinking...
Your lay in bed, to the outside world your dying, inside you know you will be in a dream, so what happens? Does everything just stop?
Or does your dream continue as maybe the dream world is part of the soul, the real you..
I have no idea, but what’s your thoughts?"
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"I am not sure what happens, but whatever it is I hope it is beautiful.
I went to see my Mum a long term COPD sufferer and as we sat having a cup of tea she said to me "Shelley, I don't think I will be here next week, I had a visit from your Dad he told me it won't be long, he is getting things ready for me for Monday"
I literally laughed at her... told her it was daft, Dad died 22 years ago.
That Friday she got taken ill and rushed into Hospital, slipped into a coma and they turned her life support off on the Monday.
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 that's so bittersweet.
I really hope this isn't it. |
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that's so bittersweet.
I really hope this isn't it. "
Was surreal remembering that conversation later and it did give me a little comfort after she passed knowing she wasn't alone x
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"Don’t want to be “that guy” but I had a friend who drowned and was resuscitated he was properly dead and not just unconscious. When I asked him what it was like he said he remembered nothing.
That terrifies me "
I got run over, car hit me at over 45mph and didn't slow for the red light.
Anyway, that was probably close to being dead, but, nothing. One second was walking along to work, micro second later saw the car just before it hit me, then nothing.
Woke up on the floor.
So I think death will be like that. Nothing. No pain, no life, just nothing.
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"Don’t want to be “that guy” but I had a friend who drowned and was resuscitated he was properly dead and not just unconscious. When I asked him what it was like he said he remembered nothing.
That terrifies me
I got run over, car hit me at over 45mph and didn't slow for the red light.
Anyway, that was probably close to being dead, but, nothing. One second was walking along to work, micro second later saw the car just before it hit me, then nothing.
Woke up on the floor.
So I think death will be like that. Nothing. No pain, no life, just nothing.
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As an aside to that, I really want it to be different, I really want it to be happy and I find my dog waiting for me even the thought of him waiting and wagging his tail is making me cry, damn I miss him and wish when I die he is waiting for me
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"Don’t want to be “that guy” but I had a friend who drowned and was resuscitated he was properly dead and not just unconscious. When I asked him what it was like he said he remembered nothing.
That terrifies me
I got run over, car hit me at over 45mph and didn't slow for the red light.
Anyway, that was probably close to being dead, but, nothing. One second was walking along to work, micro second later saw the car just before it hit me, then nothing.
Woke up on the floor.
So I think death will be like that. Nothing. No pain, no life, just nothing.
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Similar experience
Blacked out whilst running one minute there next, being brought back by a couple of paramedics in an ambulance, technically dead for ??? Have no idea how long but it was just nothing no dreams or lights, no heavenly voices just nothing!!!
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No one can be certain of anything when it comes to "death". As far as consciousness goes there are quite a few scientists nowadays who believe that the brain doesn't actually create consciousness but actually acts as a transmitter and receiver for consciousness.
I for one believe that phyical death is not the end of the story but that is my belief and i know plenty who don't share that belief |
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That terrifies me "
Why would it terrify you? "You" are not there to experience anything. I find it quite comforting. |
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"Culturally, I believe in reincarnation. I have no idea what I was before this life, and no idea what I'll be next. I just know that whatever I'm going to be, I'll try to be the best of it. Personally, I'm hoping to be a duck."
I dont think the mathematics for reincarnation stack up. You would need a warehouse full of new souls to take on our ever increasing populations of humans and animals. |
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The “nothing” part doesn’t terrify me, it’s the fear of knowing I’m about to die and knowing there will be nothing after, the anticipation of it, if you will. |
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