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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I see it a lot about people but have no real clue it seems to be a bad thing
I always thought it was a knock out artist cos lex luger always knocked people out with his metal elbow and it was his nickname
Someone teach me please i wanna know |
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"Narcissistic personality disorder is a psychiatric condition/ personality disorder.
Outside medical terminology it often means someone extremely selfish. "
Self obsessed maybe, they may not necessarily be selfish, they may be giving and generous... if it makes them look good |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Narcissistic personality disorder is a psychiatric condition/ personality disorder.
Outside medical terminology it often means someone extremely selfish.
Self obsessed maybe, they may not necessarily be selfish, they may be giving and generous... if it makes them look good" so not that bad a thing then? |
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By *itty9899Man
over a year ago
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Overview. Narcissistic personality disorder — one of several types of personality disorders — is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others. |
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"Narcissistic personality disorder is a psychiatric condition/ personality disorder.
Outside medical terminology it often means someone extremely selfish.
Self obsessed maybe, they may not necessarily be selfish, they may be giving and generous... if it makes them look goodso not that bad a thing then?"
Self obsession may be seen as being |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It's people who always make it about themselves
I tend to stay away from people like that
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By (user no longer on site)
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One who manages to take any scenario, and manipulate it so all attention is on them.
Take advantage of others to get what they want. Lack empathy.
Expect praise, attention, special treatment.
Usually have a few ‘enablers’ who pander to them, and further inflate this sense of being special.
Someone who is not narcissistic, may feel ‘emptiness’ in times with a narcissist, when with others they felt fulfilled... |
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"It's people who always make it about themselves
I tend to stay away from people like that
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I see it a lot about people but have no real clue it seems to be a bad thing
I always thought it was a knock out artist cos lex luger always knocked people out with his metal elbow and it was his nickname
Someone teach me please i wanna know"
Let’s just say, if you fucked them the only pleasure they’d care about is theirs. And how good they looked in the mirror. Think American Psycho without the killing bit. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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All of the above. I'll add that they have delusions of grandeur and consider themselves superior and special. They have a strong sense of entitlement and will walk all over others to make themselves look good. They especially enjoy doing this in social situations, where they can play to an audience and put their partner / spouse down to look better.
I kinda know a thing or two on this topic - was married to one for 15 years...
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"Overview. Narcissistic personality disorder — one of several types of personality disorders — is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others."
Plus the inability to see when or what they have done wrong or to another, it’s always the other person’s mistake |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Narcissistic personality disorder is a psychiatric condition/ personality disorder.
Outside medical terminology it often means someone extremely selfish.
Self obsessed maybe, they may not necessarily be selfish, they may be giving and generous... if it makes them look goodso not that bad a thing then?"
If you dont mind every aspect of your life being turned upside down and being massively fucked up in the process,yes, great |
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"It's people who always make it about themselves
I tend to stay away from people like that
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By *adetMan
over a year ago
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It's derived from the Greek myth of Narcissus who gazed into the water and fell in love with his own reflection
Narcissi (the small daffodil) grow near the waters edge, hence their name
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Overview. Narcissistic personality disorder — one of several types of personality disorders — is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others.
Plus the inability to see when or what they have done wrong or to another, it’s always the other person’s mistake "
I had the misfortune to meet someone like this from fab a couple of years ago. It was a horrid experience and he is back on the site. It made me very wary of men displaying certain characteristics.
I told him very clearly what I thought of his behaviour when he approached me again and he suggested that as I was capable of self reflection I’d no doubt realise why it was my fault.
Nuff said really. |
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"I don't know in detail but it seems to be the favourite thing to call people nowadays "
Yeah, there are a lot of amateur psychologists out there.
Some people are just conceited dickheads, it doesn't mean they have a clinical disorder. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I don't know in detail but it seems to be the favourite thing to call people nowadays "
Narcissus has been around for a good while now,but he will come and go like the tide. Next insult will be canutism for trying to stop the tide |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I know some selfish self centred people, but not full blown narcissists. I think it gets thrown around as a label sometimes when it's not appropriate. "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"People like this fascinate me.. so interesting to see in action "
Not so interesting when you’re married to one and being the person on the receiving end of the constant put down and mental abuse. Even his own children wasn’t immune from his manipulation x |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Overview. Narcissistic personality disorder — one of several types of personality disorders — is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others.
Plus the inability to see when or what they have done wrong or to another, it’s always the other person’s mistake "
And they're always the victim.
They prey on peoples vulnerability, especially those with a caring nature.
They have such a twisted reality that they tru to warp yours too.
If you're lucky you'll walk away with just your mind, self esteem, confidence and sense of self destroyed. If you're ballsy enough to stand up to one after they've tried ripping you apart mentally, they may opt for the physical violence too.
I talk from experience.
My ex tried to get me to kill myself, apparently I was so worthless and shit at everything I'd not even manage to do that right and he begged me to prove him wrong, so at least I managed SOMETHING worthwhile in my pathetic existence. That's a fucking narcissist.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I see it a lot about people but have no real clue it seems to be a bad thing
I always thought it was a knock out artist cos lex luger always knocked people out with his metal elbow and it was his nickname
Someone teach me please i wanna know"
People who grew up not getting enough hugs. |
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By *reya73Woman
over a year ago
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There are narcissistic traits that we may be all have some point.
Narcissistic personality disorder, I think, is a more deep rooted set of behavioural patterns put in place because of wounding/rejection/humiliation/devalue.
I'm not a fan of throwing the label around.. nor the idea that narcissists are pure evil. Although in relationship, the behaviour can ultimately be manipulative and impose self doubt on the other.
I'm no psychologist so this is just my understanding.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"99% of the females on this site would generally fit in to one or more of narcissistic criteria.
..*drops the mic*"
Which begs the question...
" why then, my love, would you want to be here?" |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"99% of the females on this site would generally fit in to one or more of narcissistic criteria.
..*drops the mic*
Which begs the question...
" why then, my love, would you want to be here?""
Haha!.. Touchè
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By (user no longer on site)
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"This word is thrown about so much these days. It’s a personality/mental disorder to which there is a broad spectrum. "
It's a Greek bloke who looked into a pond and fell in love with his own reflection...when he realized what it was he committed suicide....there endith the lesson |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"99% of the females on this site would generally fit in to one or more of narcissistic criteria.
..*drops the mic*"
Please don't bracket me into the same category as someone like that.
I'm not perfect, far from it. I've made mistakes and will continue to do so, but hurting people I'm supposed to care about couldn't be further from my mind, in fact I'm the kind of person that will suffer to keep someone I love "happy" at times.
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By *reya73Woman
over a year ago
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"99% of the females on this site would generally fit in to one or more of narcissistic criteria.
..*drops the mic*"
Don't drop the Mic.. how about expand, explain. It's an odd statement to me |
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"99% of the females on this site would generally fit in to one or more of narcissistic criteria.
..*drops the mic*
Don't drop the Mic.. how about expand, explain. It's an odd statement to me "
Sweeping generalisation warning |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"People with no feelings thought that was a psychopath?
Not no feelings .. but a lack of ability/willingness to show empathy
Self obsession and a constant desire to be noticed"
Ah well the describes the vast amount of forum users eh |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"People with no feelings thought that was a psychopath?
Not no feelings .. but a lack of ability/willingness to show empathy
Self obsession and a constant desire to be noticed
Ah well the describes the vast amount of forum users eh "
ME ME ME |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"very, very dangerous"
What she said
I’ve been involved with one, not even counsellors will attempt to unravel these lovelies ,big case of avoid at all costs and if it’s to late ,run and cut off any form of communication |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"People with no feelings thought that was a psychopath?
Not no feelings .. but a lack of ability/willingness to show empathy
Self obsession and a constant desire to be noticed
Ah well the describes the vast amount of forum users eh
ME ME ME " really u seem as dangerous as a kitten |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"People with no feelings thought that was a psychopath?
Not no feelings .. but a lack of ability/willingness to show empathy
Self obsession and a constant desire to be noticed
Ah well the describes the vast amount of forum users eh
ME ME ME really u seem as dangerous as a kitten "
Self obsessed and constant desire to be noticed ? Defo me |
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I've had the misfortune to have worked with quite a few individuals that meet the criteria for NPD; they are extremely dangerous sociopaths.
The DSM-5 Criteria for Narcissistic Personality Disorders are:
A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by FIVE OR MORE of the following:
1 Has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements).
2 Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love.
3 Believes that he or she is “special” and unique and can only be understood by or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions).
4 Requires excessive admiration.
5 Has a sense of entitlement (i.e. unreasonable expectation of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations).
6 Is inter-personally exploitative (i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends).
7 Lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others.
8 Is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her.
9 Shows arrogant, haughty behaviors and attitudes.
Reference: American Psychiatric Association: Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fifth Edition. Arlington, Va., American Psychiatric Association, 2013, pp. 669–670. |
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Don't confuse a narcissist , someone with narcissistic tendencies , someone who occasionally exhibits narcissistic behaviours with someone who has narcissistic personality disorder. The latter being the worst.
B.T.W..... as the latter is a condition...... how much blame should people lay at their door for their behaviours ? Why is it okay to call them cunts , bastards or bitches when they are made that way. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Don't confuse a narcissist , someone with narcissistic tendencies , someone who occasionally exhibits narcissistic behaviours with someone who has narcissistic personality disorder. The latter being the worst.
B.T.W..... as the latter is a condition...... how much blame should people lay at their door for their behaviours ? Why is it okay to call them cunts , bastards or bitches when they are made that way."
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"Overview. Narcissistic personality disorder — one of several types of personality disorders — is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others.
Plus the inability to see when or what they have done wrong or to another, it’s always the other person’s mistake
And they're always the victim.
They prey on peoples vulnerability, especially those with a caring nature.
They have such a twisted reality that they tru to warp yours too.
If you're lucky you'll walk away with just your mind, self esteem, confidence and sense of self destroyed. If you're ballsy enough to stand up to one after they've tried ripping you apart mentally, they may opt for the physical violence too.
I talk from experience.
My ex tried to get me to kill myself, apparently I was so worthless and shit at everything I'd not even manage to do that right and he begged me to prove him wrong, so at least I managed SOMETHING worthwhile in my pathetic existence. That's a fucking narcissist.
P"
This exactly,folk who haven't been on the receiving end of this level have no idea what it is like to live it and be lucky enough to come out the other side,just!! |
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"Don't confuse a narcissist , someone with narcissistic tendencies , someone who occasionally exhibits narcissistic behaviours with someone who has narcissistic personality disorder. The latter being the worst.
B.T.W..... as the latter is a condition...... how much blame should people lay at their door for their behaviours ? Why is it okay to call them cunts , bastards or bitches when they are made that way."
I don't call them anything. I just value my mental and physical safety and avoid. |
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Have an exaggerated sense of self-importance
Have a sense of entitlement and require constant, excessive admiration
Expect to be recognized as superior even without achievements that warrant it
Exaggerate achievements and talents
Be preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, brilliance, beauty or the perfect mate
Believe they are superior and can only associate with equally special people
Monopolize conversations and belittle or look down on people they perceive as inferior
Expect special favors and unquestioning compliance with their expectations
Take advantage of others to get what they want
Have an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others
Be envious of others and believe others envy them
Behave in an arrogant or haughty manner, coming across as conceited, boastful and pretentious
Insist on having the best of everything — for instance, the best car or office
A sociapath can be mistaken for a narcissist quite easily.
Either way I absolutely hate both and they are one of the worst things to endure and suffer. |
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"I've had the misfortune to have worked with quite a few individuals that meet the criteria for NPD; they are extremely dangerous sociopaths.
The DSM-5 Criteria for Narcissistic Personality Disorders are:
A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by FIVE OR MORE of the following:
1 Has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements).
2 Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love.
3 Believes that he or she is “special” and unique and can only be understood by or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions).
4 Requires excessive admiration.
5 Has a sense of entitlement (i.e. unreasonable expectation of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations).
6 Is inter-personally exploitative (i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends).
7 Lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others.
8 Is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her.
9 Shows arrogant, haughty behaviors and attitudes.
Reference: American Psychiatric Association: Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fifth Edition. Arlington, Va., American Psychiatric Association, 2013, pp. 669–670."
Not easy to diagnose these things in my opinion and wouldn't listen to one person's opinion. Half of these so called experts are as batty as their patients in my opinion.. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"Overview. Narcissistic personality disorder — one of several types of personality disorders — is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others."
sounds like my president.... not to take it in that direction.... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Dare I say this but I'm going to.
I think a lot of men identifying themselves as dom actually fall into a category where they either have the narcissistic or sociapath disorders or have an awful lot of the traits. |
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"Overview. Narcissistic personality disorder — one of several types of personality disorders — is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others.
sounds like my president.... not to take it in that direction...."
Maybe that's a trait needed to be a bloomin good president |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Is it not accurate to say that it's related to image, what the individual have been influenced to believe as beautiful, to which they obsess over it, having not much time for anything else |
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By *edVelveteenCouple
over a year ago
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All of the above. I'll add that they have delusions of grandeur and consider themselves superior and special. They have a strong sense of entitlement and will walk all over others to make themselves look good. They especially enjoy doing this in social situations, where they can play to an audience and put their partner / spouse down to look better.
I kinda know a thing or two on this topic - was married to one for 15 years...
xN"
Also, have no thought as to consequences. Will do what they want, when they want without any consideration about how it will affect others. And when you confront them, they turn it around to make you the unreasonable one. |
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By *edVelveteenCouple
over a year ago
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"Don't confuse a narcissist , someone with narcissistic tendencies , someone who occasionally exhibits narcissistic behaviours with someone who has narcissistic personality disorder. The latter being the worst.
B.T.W..... as the latter is a condition...... how much blame should people lay at their door for their behaviours ? Why is it okay to call them cunts , bastards or bitches when they are made that way."
Exactly. One is over inflated vanity. The other is a mental health disorder. |
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"Not easy to diagnose these things in my opinion and wouldn't listen to one person's opinion. Half of these so called experts are as batty as their patients in my opinion.. "
DSM-5 is a consensus of diagnostic criteria developed by the American Psychiatric Association i.e. rather more than just one psychiatrist.
It's reviewed and amended on a regular basis.
The UK (World Health Organisation) version is ICD-11 and every contact you have with your general practitioner or hospital specialist is coded in your medical record using this.
Again, ICD-11 is regularly reviewed and amended. |
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"Overview. Narcissistic personality disorder — one of several types of personality disorders — is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others.
Plus the inability to see when or what they have done wrong or to another, it’s always the other person’s mistake "
Very true. My ex considers it my fault that he cheated on me for three months as he says I didn't give him enough attention or make him feel attractive so he turned to tinder to make him feel more attractive and then ended up meeting someone on there. When she figured out that I was his girlfriend she told me. As a result he blames her for our relationship ending, not his cheating. He's always the victim and everyone else around him isn't good enough and that's used to excuse anything he does to hurt people. |
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"There are narcissistic traits that we may be all have some point.
Narcissistic personality disorder, I think, is a more deep rooted set of behavioural patterns put in place because of wounding/rejection/humiliation/devalue.
I'm not a fan of throwing the label around.. nor the idea that narcissists are pure evil. Although in relationship, the behaviour can ultimately be manipulative and impose self doubt on the other.
I'm no psychologist so this is just my understanding.
X
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Absolutely. My ex was abused by his dad in many awful ways. I understand why he was the way he was and why I put up with so much of it for so long but in the end I had to get out for my own wellbeing. He needed professional help and wasn't willing to seek it. |
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It's another aspect of human personality which extends across 1 or more spectra. Most people will have attributes that are deemed healthy but a small minority will exist at more extreme points on the spectrum.
Others have covered the typical characteristics of these people. It's uncertain what the potential causes of this condition may be.
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"There are narcissistic traits that we may be all have some point.
Narcissistic personality disorder, I think, is a more deep rooted set of behavioural patterns put in place because of wounding/rejection/humiliation/devalue.
I'm not a fan of throwing the label around.. nor the idea that narcissists are pure evil. Although in relationship, the behaviour can ultimately be manipulative and impose self doubt on the other.
I'm no psychologist so this is just my understanding.
X
Absolutely. My ex was abused by his dad in many awful ways. I understand why he was the way he was and why I put up with so much of it for so long but in the end I had to get out for my own wellbeing. He needed professional help and wasn't willing to seek it."
There is only so much you can give isnt there, when all the other can ever do is take. You run out of yourself eventually and when its noticed there is nothing left of you, you get discarded, slightly worse for wear. |
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"I don't know in detail but it seems to be the favourite thing to call people nowadays
Yeah, there are a lot of amateur psychologists out there.
Some people are just conceited dickheads, it doesn't mean they have a clinical disorder. "
I do often raise an eyebrow when a woman complains about something a man has done and several people reply saying he's a narcissist. , the money that could be saved on the health service of only three people were employed in clinics. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I did a post about this too in the politics forum about boris, he is a perfect example of who is one and posted this check list of it:
Here is few points of what it is:
Signs and symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder
Grandiose sense of self-importance. ...
Lives in a fantasy world that supports their delusions of grandeur. ...
Needs constant praise and admiration.
Sense of entitlement.
Exploits others without guilt or shame.
Frequently demeans, intimidates, bullies, or belittles others.
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"I don't know in detail but it seems to be the favourite thing to call people nowadays
Yeah, there are a lot of amateur psychologists out there.
Some people are just conceited dickheads, it doesn't mean they have a clinical disorder.
I do often raise an eyebrow when a woman complains about something a man has done and several people reply saying he's a narcissist. , the money that could be saved on the health service of only three people were employed in clinics."
These people not three. |
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"Have an exaggerated sense of self-importance
Have a sense of entitlement and require constant, excessive admiration
Expect to be recognized as superior even without achievements that warrant it
Exaggerate achievements and talents
Be preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, brilliance, beauty or the perfect mate
Believe they are superior and can only associate with equally special people
Monopolize conversations and belittle or look down on people they perceive as inferior
Expect special favors and unquestioning compliance with their expectations
Take advantage of others to get what they want
Have an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others
Be envious of others and believe others envy them
Behave in an arrogant or haughty manner, coming across as conceited, boastful and pretentious
Insist on having the best of everything — for instance, the best car or office
A sociapath can be mistaken for a narcissist quite easily.
Either way I absolutely hate both and they are one of the worst things to endure and suffer. "
.....and one has just been voted in to power over the country....fucking awesome work! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Overview. Narcissistic personality disorder — one of several types of personality disorders — is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others.
Plus the inability to see when or what they have done wrong or to another, it’s always the other person’s mistake
I had the misfortune to meet someone like this from fab a couple of years ago. It was a horrid experience and he is back on the site. It made me very wary of men displaying certain characteristics.
I told him very clearly what I thought of his behaviour when he approached me again and he suggested that as I was capable of self reflection I’d no doubt realise why it was my fault.
Nuff said really."
Me too.
Hes not here at the moment but will be back. Proverbial bad penny |
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"Don't confuse a narcissist , someone with narcissistic tendencies , someone who occasionally exhibits narcissistic behaviours with someone who has narcissistic personality disorder. The latter being the worst.
B.T.W..... as the latter is a condition...... how much blame should people lay at their door for their behaviours ? Why is it okay to call them cunts , bastards or bitches when they are made that way.
I don't call them anything. I just value my mental and physical safety and avoid."
Me too. I'm too good looking and important to be listening to them moaning about expenses just cos i'm using their mobile to phone Australia |
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It’s common to label people considered self-centred or egotistical as a narcissist, most of us demonstrate narcissistic tendencies over time. However, narcissistic personality disorder is rare according to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders between 0.5 and 1 percent of the general population (50 to 75% are men) is diagnosed with NPD. |
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"I don't know in detail but it seems to be the favourite thing to call people nowadays
Yeah, there are a lot of amateur psychologists out there.
Some people are just conceited dickheads, it doesn't mean they have a clinical disorder.
I do often raise an eyebrow when a woman complains about something a man has done and several people reply saying he's a narcissist. , the money that could be saved on the health service of only three people were employed in clinics."
But many of us use labels carefully and with restraint. |
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over a year ago
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I think it’s quite the trendy term at the moment. So very rarely heard before I joined Fab but now it’s everywhere on here
Yes there are narcissists or people with narcissistic tendencies. Not that they see themselves that way |
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"I did a post about this too in the politics forum about boris, he is a perfect example of who is one and posted this check list of it:
Here is few points of what it is:
Signs and symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder
Grandiose sense of self-importance. ...
Lives in a fantasy world that supports their delusions of grandeur. ...
Needs constant praise and admiration.
Sense of entitlement.
Exploits others without guilt or shame.
Frequently demeans, intimidates, bullies, or belittles others.
" bollox u just described me is there a cure |
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"I did a post about this too in the politics forum about boris, he is a perfect example of who is one and posted this check list of it:
Here is few points of what it is:
Signs and symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder
Grandiose sense of self-importance. ...
Lives in a fantasy world that supports their delusions of grandeur. ...
Needs constant praise and admiration.
Sense of entitlement.
Exploits others without guilt or shame.
Frequently demeans, intimidates, bullies, or belittles others.
bollox u just described me is there a cure"
You're ok LoO .. there was no mention of non penis sharing |
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"Dare I say this but I'm going to.
I think a lot of men identifying themselves as dom actually fall into a category where they either have the narcissistic or sociapath disorders or have an awful lot of the traits. "
I want to disagree but i can't in truth. It does describe an ex of mine perfectly. Always going to crave him but have to give a wide berth for my own well-being |
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By *latinumkittenWoman
over a year ago
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"Overview. Narcissistic personality disorder — one of several types of personality disorders — is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others.
Plus the inability to see when or what they have done wrong or to another, it’s always the other person’s mistake
And they're always the victim.
They prey on peoples vulnerability, especially those with a caring nature.
They have such a twisted reality that they tru to warp yours too.
If you're lucky you'll walk away with just your mind, self esteem, confidence and sense of self destroyed. If you're ballsy enough to stand up to one after they've tried ripping you apart mentally, they may opt for the physical violence too.
I talk from experience.
My ex tried to get me to kill myself, apparently I was so worthless and shit at everything I'd not even manage to do that right and he begged me to prove him wrong, so at least I managed SOMETHING worthwhile in my pathetic existence. That's a fucking narcissist.
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"I did a post about this too in the politics forum about boris, he is a perfect example of who is one and posted this check list of it:
Here is few points of what it is:
Signs and symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder
Grandiose sense of self-importance. ...
Lives in a fantasy world that supports their delusions of grandeur. ...
Needs constant praise and admiration.
Sense of entitlement.
Exploits others without guilt or shame.
Frequently demeans, intimidates, bullies, or belittles others.
bollox u just described me is there a cure
You're ok LoO .. there was no mention of non penis sharing" thats ok then phew |
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Narcissus in Greek mythology became entranced by his own reflection in a pool and died of dehydration because he could not disturb the water as it would disturb his reflection or he killed himself because he couldn’t have his desire of himself
Narcissism is closely related to this tale |
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"Just getting divorced from one. I can tell you the feeling your left with is utter confusion and emptiness"
And in 2 months time you’ll be saying to yourself that you should of done it a long time ago |
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Narcosis:
Lacks empathy , understanding how others feel.
Arragont
Grandiose (loud) centre of attention
Entitled , every thing is owed to them.
Validation, constAnt approval
Disorder of self estime,
If they do bad they dont feel guilt and shame.
But feel more shame then guilt.
Being on here ive picked up and learnt alot about Narcissists , plus they wont admit they are one lol |
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"Narcosis:
Lacks empathy , understanding how others feel.
Arragont
Grandiose (loud) centre of attention
Entitled , every thing is owed to them.
Validation, constAnt approval
Disorder of self estime,
If they do bad they dont feel guilt and shame.
But feel more shame then guilt.
Being on here ive picked up and learnt alot about Narcissists , plus they wont admit they are one lol"
A couple of those points are true to me but I do have empathy for people so it rules me out! |
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We'll mostly be on several continua of personality traits, that others have covered, that will see narcissists with clusters of some of them to a full level - whilst the rest of us will have possibly some of these characteristics to a lesser extent and not all of them at the max. You may be learning about them out of interest but they will have no interest in you, apart from how they can gain from you.
For those speculating on Trump, do you view his interest in his daughter's success as validating him? |
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Thunder woke me up, it was storming in the city
I was suddenly wide awake
Sittin' in the darkness but my eyes they had adjusted
I was on my own, on my own
I should find it scary, lighting show could start a fire
Brick and mortar might not survive
Would you start to miss me, would you start to miss me?
Or am I all alone? No
I'm just a narcissist
Too blessed to be depressed, thank Jesus
God, I'm bending over, love me
I'll let you take my sins out on me
I'll be your ever after honey
Thunder woke me up, it was storming in the city
I was suddenly wide awake
Sittin' in the darkness but my eyes they had adjusted
I was on my own, on my own
I should find it scary, lighting show could start a fire
Brick and mortar might not survive
Would you start to miss me, would you start to miss me?
Or am I all alone? No
I'm just a narcissist
I'm just a narcissist |
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In my experience if a narcissist attains any form of power within a club or organisation you can expect it to fail really quickly. Self centered with no thought for anyone or anything. |
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"I see it a lot about people but have no real clue it seems to be a bad thing
I always thought it was a knock out artist cos lex luger always knocked people out with his metal elbow and it was his nickname
Someone teach me please i wanna know"
I understand they have an ass`s ears
So I check in the mirror every half hour to check my ears are normal and I'm still dashing and handsome |
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"Don't confuse a narcissist , someone with narcissistic tendencies , someone who occasionally exhibits narcissistic behaviours with someone who has narcissistic personality disorder. The latter being the worst.
B.T.W..... as the latter is a condition...... how much blame should people lay at their door for their behaviours ? Why is it okay to call them cunts , bastards or bitches when they are made that way."
That what a narcissist would say |
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"I see it a lot about people but have no real clue it seems to be a bad thing
I always thought it was a knock out artist cos lex luger always knocked people out with his metal elbow and it was his nickname
Someone teach me please i wanna know"
Someone I lived with for 2 Yrs |
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"Everyone's ex these days.
Most overused word I hear.
Mrs
Everyone on fab too "
That’s usually because , and this is only my humble opinion, that a lot of fab era that have come from some sort of abusive/coercive/controlling/narcissistic or toxic relationship tend to find their way to the freedom in swinging
As I say only my opinion but I have been on here 10 years and seen it all for myself
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"Everyone's ex these days.
Most overused word I hear.
Mrs
Everyone on fab too
That’s usually because , and this is only my humble opinion, that a lot of fab era that have come from some sort of abusive/coercive/controlling/narcissistic or toxic relationship tend to find their way to the freedom in swinging
As I say only my opinion but I have been on here 10 years and seen it all for myself
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Sorry that you had to go through that. And I do get where you are coming from.
I think that maybe a lot of narcissists tend to pick this lifestyle because it allows them to get all the attention they want from a lot of sources… |
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"Everyone's ex these days.
Most overused word I hear.
Mrs
Everyone on fab too
That’s usually because , and this is only my humble opinion, that a lot of fab era that have come from some sort of abusive/coercive/controlling/narcissistic or toxic relationship tend to find their way to the freedom in swinging
As I say only my opinion but I have been on here 10 years and seen it all for myself
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I’d agree with you - there are quite a few ‘broken’ people on Fab |
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"Everyone's ex these days.
Most overused word I hear.
Mrs
Everyone on fab too
That’s usually because , and this is only my humble opinion, that a lot of fab era that have come from some sort of abusive/coercive/controlling/narcissistic or toxic relationship tend to find their way to the freedom in swinging
As I say only my opinion but I have been on here 10 years and seen it all for myself
Sorry that you had to go through that. And I do get where you are coming from.
I think that maybe a lot of narcissists tend to pick this lifestyle because it allows them to get all the attention they want from a lot of sources… "
That is true
Self validation for the unconfident
Self appreciation for the narcs lol |
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over a year ago
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"I see it a lot about people but have no real clue it seems to be a bad thing
I always thought it was a knock out artist cos lex luger always knocked people out with his metal elbow and it was his nickname
Someone teach me please i wanna know" He shot them with a luger |
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over a year ago
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"Narcissistic personality disorder is a psychiatric condition/ personality disorder.
Outside medical terminology it often means someone extremely selfish. "
Someone who needs constant praise and admiration, gets angry if they don’t receive it. Is controlling, manipulative and devisive. Very good at putting on the charm, luring people in, pretending they care, but only care about what they can get out of the situation. Their aim is to exploit every possible angle to get what they want, that includes exploiting people and situations. To show the world how great they are, and look what they are missing out on, and look what they are achieving. |
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over a year ago
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"Everyone's ex these days.
Most overused word I hear.
Mrs
Everyone on fab too
That’s usually because , and this is only my humble opinion, that a lot of fab era that have come from some sort of abusive/coercive/controlling/narcissistic or toxic relationship tend to find their way to the freedom in swinging
As I say only my opinion but I have been on here 10 years and seen it all for myself
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It is an over used word for ex partners. I researched the definition a tonne of times, and I was very attracted to his charm, and good looks. He was very addictive. But he had compromised me with my friends and network, as they didn’t like him and his arrogance. I don’t like arrogance either, a turn off. I like confidence in the bedroom but not arrogance.
I am less confident and probably do use fab as a self validation method ! But most of all I use it as I enjoy the lifestyle it offers , an escape from everyday responsibilities.
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"Narcissistic personality disorder is a psychiatric condition/ personality disorder.
Outside medical terminology it often means someone extremely selfish.
Someone who needs constant praise and admiration, gets angry if they don’t receive it. Is controlling, manipulative and devisive. Very good at putting on the charm, luring people in, pretending they care, but only care about what they can get out of the situation. Their aim is to exploit every possible angle to get what they want, that includes exploiting people and situations. To show the world how great they are, and look what they are missing out on, and look what they are achieving. "
I haven't read the rest of the thread but I used to know someone who used the term for her ex and was very bitter about him and everything he did or said.
The problem I had with her definition was that she joined dozens of narcissism chatgroups and forums, most of which were based in the US so she spent most nights telling her story to anyone who would listen until 2 or 3 am.
She was obsessed with social media in general but especially anything posted by those who had "done her wrong" including the ex.
Every time he put a new pic on FB she took a screenshot and added a note in the files she was keeping on him or sometimes she couldn't resist commenting directly on FB.
I don't remember too many conversations that didn't refer to him at some point or how she saw narcissistic traits in former friends who had grown weary of her antics.
She lived for compliments and often asked for them if they weren't immediately given.
Throughout all of this her ex never once reacted or responded to what she was doing.
I had never met him but she painted a picture of a horrible obsessive man. I could see no evidence of this but the irony was not lost on me and when I followed the example of some of her other friends and simply stopped engaging with her she started to stalk me on social media and comment on my FB or Instagram posts.
My experience of people who like to continuously talk about narcism and other buzzwords is that they really need to take a look in the mirror. |
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"Narcissistic personality disorder is a psychiatric condition/ personality disorder.
Outside medical terminology it often means someone extremely selfish.
Self obsessed maybe, they may not necessarily be selfish, they may be giving and generous... if it makes them look goodso not that bad a thing then?"
It’s not a great thing if you have or are a victim. It can screw your brain speaking from experience. |
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"Narcissistic personality disorder is a psychiatric condition/ personality disorder.
Outside medical terminology it often means someone extremely selfish.
Self obsessed maybe, they may not necessarily be selfish, they may be giving and generous... if it makes them look goodso not that bad a thing then?"
It’s not a great thing if you have or are a victim. It can screw your brain speaking from experience. |
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"Narcissistic personality disorder is a psychiatric condition/ personality disorder.
Outside medical terminology it often means someone extremely selfish.
Someone who needs constant praise and admiration, gets angry if they don’t receive it. Is controlling, manipulative and devisive. Very good at putting on the charm, luring people in, pretending they care, but only care about what they can get out of the situation. Their aim is to exploit every possible angle to get what they want, that includes exploiting people and situations. To show the world how great they are, and look what they are missing out on, and look what they are achieving. "
I disagree with most of that. |
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"Narcissistic personality disorder is a psychiatric condition/ personality disorder.
Outside medical terminology it often means someone extremely selfish.
Someone who needs constant praise and admiration, gets angry if they don’t receive it. Is controlling, manipulative and devisive. Very good at putting on the charm, luring people in, pretending they care, but only care about what they can get out of the situation. Their aim is to exploit every possible angle to get what they want, that includes exploiting people and situations. To show the world how great they are, and look what they are missing out on, and look what they are achieving. "
That ticks every box and getting out of that sticky web is almost impossible. |
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"Narcissistic personality disorder is a psychiatric condition/ personality disorder.
Outside medical terminology it often means someone extremely selfish.
Someone who needs constant praise and admiration, gets angry if they don’t receive it. Is controlling, manipulative and devisive. Very good at putting on the charm, luring people in, pretending they care, but only care about what they can get out of the situation. Their aim is to exploit every possible angle to get what they want, that includes exploiting people and situations. To show the world how great they are, and look what they are missing out on, and look what they are achieving.
I haven't read the rest of the thread but I used to know someone who used the term for her ex and was very bitter about him and everything he did or said.
The problem I had with her definition was that she joined dozens of narcissism chatgroups and forums, most of which were based in the US so she spent most nights telling her story to anyone who would listen until 2 or 3 am.
She was obsessed with social media in general but especially anything posted by those who had "done her wrong" including the ex.
Every time he put a new pic on FB she took a screenshot and added a note in the files she was keeping on him or sometimes she couldn't resist commenting directly on FB.
I don't remember too many conversations that didn't refer to him at some point or how she saw narcissistic traits in former friends who had grown weary of her antics.
She lived for compliments and often asked for them if they weren't immediately given.
Throughout all of this her ex never once reacted or responded to what she was doing.
I had never met him but she painted a picture of a horrible obsessive man. I could see no evidence of this but the irony was not lost on me and when I followed the example of some of her other friends and simply stopped engaging with her she started to stalk me on social media and comment on my FB or Instagram posts.
My experience of people who like to continuously talk about narcism and other buzzwords is that they really need to take a look in the mirror."
It's a very much misused term. Your last line, though very true, makes me sad. The narcissist after all , isn't always involved in the deliberate destruction of others , whether they are born or made they are operating in their own reality. They don't set out to be a narcissist, they didn't construct themselves and to them what they do is right.
Here I take little notice of the definitions people use because it's clear they think that a picture of a narcissist can be painted and that people conform exactly to that stereotype.
Here's another overused word spectrum.
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"Narcissistic personality disorder is a psychiatric condition/ personality disorder.
Outside medical terminology it often means someone extremely selfish.
Someone who needs constant praise and admiration, gets angry if they don’t receive it. Is controlling, manipulative and devisive. Very good at putting on the charm, luring people in, pretending they care, but only care about what they can get out of the situation. Their aim is to exploit every possible angle to get what they want, that includes exploiting people and situations. To show the world how great they are, and look what they are missing out on, and look what they are achieving.
I haven't read the rest of the thread but I used to know someone who used the term for her ex and was very bitter about him and everything he did or said.
The problem I had with her definition was that she joined dozens of narcissism chatgroups and forums, most of which were based in the US so she spent most nights telling her story to anyone who would listen until 2 or 3 am.
She was obsessed with social media in general but especially anything posted by those who had "done her wrong" including the ex.
Every time he put a new pic on FB she took a screenshot and added a note in the files she was keeping on him or sometimes she couldn't resist commenting directly on FB.
I don't remember too many conversations that didn't refer to him at some point or how she saw narcissistic traits in former friends who had grown weary of her antics.
She lived for compliments and often asked for them if they weren't immediately given.
Throughout all of this her ex never once reacted or responded to what she was doing.
I had never met him but she painted a picture of a horrible obsessive man. I could see no evidence of this but the irony was not lost on me and when I followed the example of some of her other friends and simply stopped engaging with her she started to stalk me on social media and comment on my FB or Instagram posts.
My experience of people who like to continuously talk about narcism and other buzzwords is that they really need to take a look in the mirror."
Great reply, it's the most overused and go to term these days
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There are narcissistic tendencies, and then NPD. We all know someone/many with narcissistic tendencies and it happens to all of us at some point. NPD (disorder), is different and a trait generally found in high-functioning roles such as surgeons and criminal law; people who have a real God complex. They are less dangerous than sociopaths because they don't totally disregard others, but there is a lot of overlap |
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over a year ago
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"Narcissistic personality disorder is a psychiatric condition/ personality disorder.
Outside medical terminology it often means someone extremely selfish.
Someone who needs constant praise and admiration, gets angry if they don’t receive it. Is controlling, manipulative and devisive. Very good at putting on the charm, luring people in, pretending they care, but only care about what they can get out of the situation. Their aim is to exploit every possible angle to get what they want, that includes exploiting people and situations. To show the world how great they are, and look what they are missing out on, and look what they are achieving.
I haven't read the rest of the thread but I used to know someone who used the term for her ex and was very bitter about him and everything he did or said.
The problem I had with her definition was that she joined dozens of narcissism chatgroups and forums, most of which were based in the US so she spent most nights telling her story to anyone who would listen until 2 or 3 am.
She was obsessed with social media in general but especially anything posted by those who had "done her wrong" including the ex.
Every time he put a new pic on FB she took a screenshot and added a note in the files she was keeping on him or sometimes she couldn't resist commenting directly on FB.
I don't remember too many conversations that didn't refer to him at some point or how she saw narcissistic traits in former friends who had grown weary of her antics.
She lived for compliments and often asked for them if they weren't immediately given.
Throughout all of this her ex never once reacted or responded to what she was doing.
I had never met him but she painted a picture of a horrible obsessive man. I could see no evidence of this but the irony was not lost on me and when I followed the example of some of her other friends and simply stopped engaging with her she started to stalk me on social media and comment on my FB or Instagram posts.
My experience of people who like to continuously talk about narcism and other buzzwords is that they really need to take a look in the mirror."
I stopped engaging with him, and well I dis-armed him in a group chat, with others, as in exposed and confronted him, he didn’t like that. But I don’t need to say any more to people about him specifically, all I know is if people are in a controlling relationship, best to stand your ground, and listen to your gut feeling. If you think something isn’t right about someone, listen to your gut feeling , don’t do what I did and ignore that part because you like how they make you feel.
Aside from that I did have a fantastic time with him, the good times.
I’m very happy and independent in life and now very happy and independent in my fab lifestyle.
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Oh people throw that word around so much you'd think everyone is a narcissist.
I am not a psychiatrist and if I was I would be only diagnosing my patients. It's a MH condition - a personality disorder. So using the term as an insult, or act of discrimination on the basis of a perceived difference is a form prejudice.
But it's ok because it's a MH condition so it's not a real disability "it's all in the mind". We can just use the term freely to insult people. |
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"Overview. Narcissistic personality disorder — one of several types of personality disorders — is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others." Donald trump for example ..
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Alexander the Great was probably a narcissist. He quite literally believed himself divine. He spread democracy, trade between civilisations, built cities that became centres for science and philosophy.
You could probably fit Jesus into the diagnostic criteria of a narcissist, if you wanted to. The Messiah, controlling all those disciples and followers, the need to be admired. Oh he spread peace and love, nah that was all a scam to manipulate people. Bloody narcissist - crucify him. |
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"Alexander the Great was probably a narcissist. He quite literally believed himself divine. He spread democracy, trade between civilisations, built cities that became centres for science and philosophy.
You could probably fit Jesus into the diagnostic criteria of a narcissist, if you wanted to. The Messiah, controlling all those disciples and followers, the need to be admired. Oh he spread peace and love, nah that was all a scam to manipulate people. Bloody narcissist - crucify him. "
He wasn't the Messiah, he was a very naughty boy! |
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"Alexander the Great was probably a narcissist. He quite literally believed himself divine. He spread democracy, trade between civilisations, built cities that became centres for science and philosophy.
You could probably fit Jesus into the diagnostic criteria of a narcissist, if you wanted to. The Messiah, controlling all those disciples and followers, the need to be admired. Oh he spread peace and love, nah that was all a scam to manipulate people. Bloody narcissist - crucify him.
He wasn't the Messiah, he was a very naughty boy!"
You don't NEED to follow me, you don't NEED to follow anybody. You've got to work it out for yourselves!!
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