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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford

A man found a fox stuck in the netting protecting his chickens and dispatched the fox with a baseball bat. He thought he might have broken the law so rang the RSPCA and left his details. Did he do the right thing?

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

No, if the fox was dead there was nothing that could be done for it.

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By *ove3funCouple  over a year ago

Cheltenham

No, what are the RSPCA going to do?

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford

I think he left his details presumably on an answerphone as they were probably shut for Christmas. I think the fox was alive and he is quoted as saying that he did not enjoy the experience. I think he was protecting his chickens. It's a story in the Dai ly Ma il online

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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East Sussex

It's a difficult one.

Finish the fox off if you've started the job. Leaving a message on an answering service isn't going to help the animal.

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By *ove3funCouple  over a year ago

Cheltenham

Jolyon Maugham story. Just read the news. Yawn

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It is not illegal to kill a Fox if it is despatched humanely.

Foxes are protected under Wildlife protection laws

Shooting is humane.

Clubbing it is not so he may well get a visit from the RSPCA

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By *alldarksurreyMan  over a year ago

surrey

The right thing to do would have been to phone the rspca or someone before he stoved its head in with a baseball bat so they could come and free it and let it go.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Having Laws and enforcing them in this country are two entirely different things.

That said, everything has the right to life and if he could have released that Fox pretty much unharmed, then that would have been the decent thing to do!

People who have no respect for our wildlife are not worth knowing!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The right thing to do would have been to phone the rspca or someone before he stoved its head in with a baseball bat so they could come and free it and let it go."

Exactly that

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By *arlomaleMan  over a year ago

darlington

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By *arlomaleMan  over a year ago

darlington

So he used a bat ? Maybe he should be beaten around the skull with one see how he likes it absolutely barbaric

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By *urtyGentMan  over a year ago

eastleigh

I remember you from another thread that saw me banned OP. So I’ll refrain from calling you what you are because I suspect that’s what you’re looking for

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By *teveanddebsCouple  over a year ago

Norwich

The right thing to do would have been to put it in the bin. Why involve the RSPCA?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I remember you from another thread that saw me banned OP. So I’ll refrain from calling you what you are because I suspect that’s what you’re looking for "

think op is looking for a reaction again

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By *iggyStarjumpsMan  over a year ago

Stockport

I found a fox caught by dogs. He let me take him in my hands

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By *ed-monkeyCouple  over a year ago

Hailsham


"I found a fox caught by dogs. He let me take him in my hands"

Was it in a Bush?

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford

I am not sure if you are supposed to put dead animals to landfill. I thought they had to be incinerated.

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By *orthern StarsCouple  over a year ago

Durham

No need to phone RSPCA.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford

Is it right to protect your chickens though

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By *oodnitegirlWoman  over a year ago

Yorkshire

Glad his chickens are ok. I couldn’t have hurt the fox though. Especially not in a terrible way like that

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By *ara JTV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

I suspect he is entitled to protect his livestock from a predator.

I think it probably comes down whether the method he used was reasonable in the circumstances, or was cruel.

He sounds like an honest sort calling the RSPCA anyway.

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By *iggyStarjumpsMan  over a year ago

Stockport


"I found a fox caught by dogs. He let me take him in my hands

Was it in a Bush?"

I felt ashamed to be there

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By *ed-monkeyCouple  over a year ago

Hailsham


"I found a fox caught by dogs. He let me take him in my hands

Was it in a Bush?

I felt ashamed to be there"

Well it was in the trees, it's cumming

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By *iggyStarjumpsMan  over a year ago

Stockport

I've always been a coward

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford

It's a shame to see any animal die needlessly although he was trying to protect his chickens. A fox kills them all instead of taking one. No doubt if released he would have been back for another attempt.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford


"I've always been a coward"

You are no coward. You acted out of compassion

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By *hickennchipsWoman  over a year ago

up above the streets and houses

But he was only stuck in the netting because he was trying to get to the chickens?? Whose life do you value most? Ponder ponder

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Not quite sure about the boasting of such an act over twitter.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford


"But he was only stuck in the netting because he was trying to get to the chickens?? Whose life do you value most? Ponder ponder "

That's the chicken and the egg situation. I have no answer

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By *iggyStarjumpsMan  over a year ago

Stockport


"I've always been a coward

You are no coward. You acted out of compassion "

His little heart, it beats so fast and I'm ashamed of running away

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By *hickennchipsWoman  over a year ago

up above the streets and houses


"But he was only stuck in the netting because he was trying to get to the chickens?? Whose life do you value most? Ponder ponder

That's the chicken and the egg situation. I have no answer"

My dad would have shot the fox to protect his chickens

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By *uke OzadeMan  over a year ago

Ho Chi Minge City

Can’t be worse than the hooray Henry lot who are out today on horses using dogs to tear foxes to bits and the RSPCA don’t get involved with that

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By *hickennchipsWoman  over a year ago

up above the streets and houses


"Can’t be worse than the hooray Henry lot who are out today on horses using dogs to tear foxes to bits and the RSPCA don’t get involved with that "

You make a good point

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford

Is hunting foxes with hounds legal now? I thought they could only drag hunt ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It's a shame to see any animal die needlessly although he was trying to protect his chickens. A fox kills them all instead of taking one. No doubt if released he would have been back for another attempt. "

Will he club every creature who tries to get at the chickens?

Maybe it would be easier to fox proof their coop.

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By *moothdickMan  over a year ago

stoke

As long as he shot it with a base ball bat & killed it b4 it was dead, then left no details on the bbc child line phone just wrote that for the sun

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Hes a fool for admitting it as for killing it was trying to eat his chicks

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By *isaB45Woman  over a year ago

Fabville


"A man found a fox stuck in the netting protecting his chickens and dispatched the fox with a baseball bat. He thought he might have broken the law so rang the RSPCA and left his details. Did he do the right thing?"

*Asking for a friend?!

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By *uke OzadeMan  over a year ago

Ho Chi Minge City


"Is hunting foxes with hounds legal now? I thought they could only drag hunt ? "

Apparently it is and because of the hunt saboteurs the government are intending to make trespass a criminal offence so they can be prosecuted

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford


"It's a shame to see any animal die needlessly although he was trying to protect his chickens. A fox kills them all instead of taking one. No doubt if released he would have been back for another attempt.

Will he club every creature who tries to get at the chickens?

Maybe it would be easier to fox proof their coop.

"

It sounds like he tried although foxes are quite resourceful. I know a person with an electrified fence that protects his but one fox made repeated attempts and eventually got in. I agree though. I do have a squirrel proof bird feeder that does work so far although the squirrel tries most days.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I think he left his details presumably on an answerphone as they were probably shut for Christmas. I think the fox was alive and he is quoted as saying that he did not enjoy the experience. I think he was protecting his chickens. It's a story in the Dai ly Ma il online"

oh thought you were out on the boxing day hunt for a fox with your beagels

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By *hickennchipsWoman  over a year ago

up above the streets and houses

I see it both sides, I would want to protect my chickens! But I couldn’t kill any animal :/

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It's a difficult one.

Finish the fox off if you've started the job. Leaving a message on an answering service isn't going to help the animal.

"

dear rspca

I just brutally murdered a fox but thought it wise for me to tell you so you can clear up the blood guts and mess I made ...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"A man found a fox stuck in the netting protecting his chickens and dispatched the fox with a baseball bat. He thought he might have broken the law so rang the RSPCA and left his details. Did he do the right thing?"

no shit sherlock

was this fox news

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford

A man called the Brighton cat killer has just been caught. He dispatched 15 cats I think..

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By *hickennchipsWoman  over a year ago

up above the streets and houses


"A man called the Brighton cat killer has just been caught. He dispatched 15 cats I think.."

Yes he has been caught. Good

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford


"The right thing to do would have been to phone the rspca or someone before he stoved its head in with a baseball bat so they could come and free it and let it go."

Except, of course that once you have captured animals classed as vermin, its illegal to release them (Wildlife and Countryside act, 1984).

Although, you might be able to argue that you hadn't intended to catch it.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford

Is a fox classed as vermin ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Is a fox classed as vermin ?"

There is no legal definition

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford

Could you stand back and let the fox eat your chickens.. ?

Not sure I could

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford


"Is a fox classed as vermin ?"

Yes. If you have them (and other pests: rats, mice, rabbits grey squirrels) you are legally obliged to remove them.

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford


"Is a fox classed as vermin ?

There is no legal definition"

There is. Either under general license or in the act. Covers invasive species too, such as signal crayfish and grey squirrels

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Is a fox classed as vermin ?

Yes. If you have them (and other pests: rats, mice, rabbits grey squirrels) you are legally obliged to remove them."

A fox is not classified under law as vermin.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"A man found a fox stuck in the netting protecting his chickens and dispatched the fox with a baseball bat. He thought he might have broken the law so rang the RSPCA and left his details. Did he do the right thing?"

Yeah he should learn how to protect his chickens properly....

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By *os19Man  over a year ago

Edmonton


"A man found a fox stuck in the netting protecting his chickens and dispatched the fox with a baseball bat. He thought he might have broken the law so rang the RSPCA and left his details. Did he do the right thing?"
. I am not sure why you would dispatch a fox with a baseball bat and then call the RSPCA.You didn’t feel guilty killing it with a baseball bat and now you do so you feel you deserve to to punished ?.

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/foxes-moles-and-mink-how-to-protect-your-property-from-damage

Foxes are not protected.

The law only prohibits certain kinds of dispatch though.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"A man found a fox stuck in the netting protecting his chickens and dispatched the fox with a baseball bat. He thought he might have broken the law so rang the RSPCA and left his details. Did he do the right thing?"

No he didn't. Should have called the rspca first and have them deal with the fox, unless he's genuinely thought the fox was badly injured and doing it a favour .

Otherwise Sounds like petty revenge from "macho" type. Bearing in mind he'll possibly be killing the chickens himself

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford


"A man found a fox stuck in the netting protecting his chickens and dispatched the fox with a baseball bat. He thought he might have broken the law so rang the RSPCA and left his details. Did he do the right thing?

No he didn't. Should have called the rspca first and have them deal with the fox, unless he's genuinely thought the fox was badly injured and doing it a favour .

Otherwise Sounds like petty revenge from "macho" type. Bearing in mind he'll possibly be killing the chickens himself

"

Called the RSPCA and let it suffer tangled up in a fence?

He should have dispatched it properly.

A baseball bat is not the tool I'd choose to use to do that, but I have no idea how much the fox was suffering at the time. If it was wrapped up in flexinet, for example, it may well have been busily strangling itself.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"https://www.gov.uk/guidance/foxes-moles-and-mink-how-to-protect-your-property-from-damage

Foxes are not protected.

The law only prohibits certain kinds of dispatch though. "

They are protected; This is copy and pasted from the above link;

Any foxes, moles and mink that you catch are protected under the Animal Welfare Act 2006. You can be jailed and fined up to £20,000 for causing unnecessary suffering to an animal.

Bit of a contradiction. At least read what you quote

No info there about foxes being in the vermin list.

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford


"https://www.gov.uk/guidance/foxes-moles-and-mink-how-to-protect-your-property-from-damage

Foxes are not protected.

The law only prohibits certain kinds of dispatch though.

They are protected; This is copy and pasted from the above link;

Any foxes, moles and mink that you catch are protected under the Animal Welfare Act 2006. You can be jailed and fined up to £20,000 for causing unnecessary suffering to an animal.

Bit of a contradiction. At least read what you quote

No info there about foxes being in the vermin list."

They are protected from certain methods of dispatch - such as poisoning, snaring with a fixed snare etc.

They are not a protected species.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"https://www.gov.uk/guidance/foxes-moles-and-mink-how-to-protect-your-property-from-damage

Foxes are not protected.

The law only prohibits certain kinds of dispatch though.

They are protected; This is copy and pasted from the above link;

Any foxes, moles and mink that you catch are protected under the Animal Welfare Act 2006. You can be jailed and fined up to £20,000 for causing unnecessary suffering to an animal.

Bit of a contradiction. At least read what you quote

No info there about foxes being in the vermin list.

They are protected from certain methods of dispatch - such as poisoning, snaring with a fixed snare etc.

They are not a protected species."

They are the link you posted says so

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford


"https://www.gov.uk/guidance/foxes-moles-and-mink-how-to-protect-your-property-from-damage

Foxes are not protected.

The law only prohibits certain kinds of dispatch though.

They are protected; This is copy and pasted from the above link;

Any foxes, moles and mink that you catch are protected under the Animal Welfare Act 2006. You can be jailed and fined up to £20,000 for causing unnecessary suffering to an animal.

Bit of a contradiction. At least read what you quote

No info there about foxes being in the vermin list.

They are protected from certain methods of dispatch - such as poisoning, snaring with a fixed snare etc.

They are not a protected species.

They are the link you posted says so

"

No, the link tells you that they are protected from certain kinds of dispatch - that is what the animal welfare act covers.

They are not a protected species, they can be killed according to all the legally permitted methods also on the link I posted.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS  over a year ago

Central

It's good to check the law, if you have done something that's potentially close to the limit.

Having kept wildlife, including having fox attacks, it seems wrong to have brutally killed the fox, if there were humane care options. He could have used wildlife care services or vet assistance.

I hope he has learned from it and improves his bird protection as well as decides not to kill other animals.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"https://www.gov.uk/guidance/foxes-moles-and-mink-how-to-protect-your-property-from-damage

Foxes are not protected.

The law only prohibits certain kinds of dispatch though.

They are protected; This is copy and pasted from the above link;

Any foxes, moles and mink that you catch are protected under the Animal Welfare Act 2006. You can be jailed and fined up to £20,000 for causing unnecessary suffering to an animal.

Bit of a contradiction. At least read what you quote

No info there about foxes being in the vermin list.

They are protected from certain methods of dispatch - such as poisoning, snaring with a fixed snare etc.

They are not a protected species.

They are the link you posted says so

No, the link tells you that they are protected from certain kinds of dispatch - that is what the animal welfare act covers.

They are not a protected species, they can be killed according to all the legally permitted methods also on the link I posted."

That is exactly what I mean. And I posted so however many posts up

But they are not on the list of animals classified as Vermin which is what I was trying to say

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By *ools and the brainCouple  over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

Ok logical head on.

Surely if the fox was trapped it's already pretty traumatized, so if you then leave it trapped for a short time longer gets some pots and pans make a helluva lot of noise , then release it.

The trauma alone must be enough to prevent it from retuning, then just beef up the chicken coop with something else not netting.

That way no fixed get killed and neither do any chickens and no one is guilty off animal cruelty.

Can you be charged with scaring the bejesus out of a foxywoxy ?

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford


"Ok logical head on.

Surely if the fox was trapped it's already pretty traumatized, so if you then leave it trapped for a short time longer gets some pots and pans make a helluva lot of noise , then release it.

The trauma alone must be enough to prevent it from retuning, then just beef up the chicken coop with something else not netting.

That way no fixed get killed and neither do any chickens and no one is guilty off animal cruelty.

Can you be charged with scaring the bejesus out of a foxywoxy ?"

If you want to try and grab hold of a pissed off fox to try and get it out of a fence, off you go.

Stay away from the sharp end.

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By *urtyGentMan  over a year ago

eastleigh

Article I’ve just read suggests the old bill are now involved because that fox was involved in a hunt. Maybe some good will come from this yet

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"A man found a fox stuck in the netting protecting his chickens and dispatched the fox with a baseball bat. He thought he might have broken the law so rang the RSPCA and left his details. Did he do the right thing?

No he didn't. Should have called the rspca first and have them deal with the fox, unless he's genuinely thought the fox was badly injured and doing it a favour .

Otherwise Sounds like petty revenge from "macho" type. Bearing in mind he'll possibly be killing the chickens himself

Called the RSPCA and let it suffer tangled up in a fence?

He should have dispatched it properly.

A baseball bat is not the tool I'd choose to use to do that, but I have no idea how much the fox was suffering at the time. If it was wrapped up in flexinet, for example, it may well have been busily strangling itself."

Not knowing the full details i can only apply general thoughts

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

If the fox urgently needed freeing trom the fence I'd help it out and take the chances of being injured/bitten. But just my own decision and responsibility for my actions

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"A man found a fox stuck in the netting protecting his chickens and dispatched the fox with a baseball bat. He thought he might have broken the law so rang the RSPCA and left his details. Did he do the right thing?"

No he didn’t. He beat a defenceless animal to death. The right thing would have been to free the fox and make his chickens more secure. End of.

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford


"If the fox urgently needed freeing trom the fence I'd help it out and take the chances of being injured/bitten. But just my own decision and responsibility for my actions "

Its difficult enough getting a sheep out of a fence without injuring you/it, let alone something that can bite you.

I tried getting a fox out from under a shed once and at no point did I think that sticking my hand under would be a good idea.

Still, if you fancy an infected bite....

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford

You are damned if you do and damned if you don't..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The right thing to do would have been to phone the rspca or someone before he stoved its head in with a baseball bat so they could come and free it and let it go."

Thank you !

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford

The RSPCA are not likely to turn up quick

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford


"The right thing to do would have been to phone the rspca or someone before he stoved its head in with a baseball bat so they could come and free it and let it go.

Thank you ! "

People do seem to like to leave animals to suffer these days.

Probably would have taken the RSPCA hours to turn up.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford

Police would take longer or probably send a dog handler

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By *osmicGateMan  over a year ago

louth


"A man found a fox stuck in the netting protecting his chickens and dispatched the fox with a baseball bat. He thought he might have broken the law so rang the RSPCA and left his details. Did he do the right thing?"

Foxes are considered as vermin so no need to be worried about killing one..badgers on the other hand are a protected species

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford

And to be fair.. one well aimed blow from a baseball bat might have ended the suffering of a distressed animal..

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford


"And to be fair.. one well aimed blow from a baseball bat might have ended the suffering of a distressed animal.. "

Having read into it - apparently clubbing it is the council approved method of dispatch in that area.

Unless it was already half-dead, I can't see it going well - lots of those town foxes are massive compared to the ones we get in the countryside.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford

Is that because they have access to more food ?

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford


"Is that because they have access to more food ?"

Guess so - first time I saw one in the town was visiting someone in Dartford Crossing. It was bloody immense

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The right thing to do would have been to phone the rspca or someone before he stoved its head in with a baseball bat so they could come and free it and let it go.

Exactly that"

Takes a sick individual to smash an animals head in

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The right thing to do would have been to phone the rspca or someone before he stoved its head in with a baseball bat so they could come and free it and let it go.

Exactly that

Takes a sick individual to smash an animals head in "

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford


"The right thing to do would have been to phone the rspca or someone before he stoved its head in with a baseball bat so they could come and free it and let it go.

Exactly that

Takes a sick individual to smash an animals head in "

Or watch as it eats your hens..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Is this a wind up?? So what. When you have livestock you protect them accordingly by whatever means is appropriate at the time. Nothing will ever change that. Guy had to do what he had to do. Why he phoned the rspca is beyond me..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The right thing to do would have been to phone the rspca or someone before he stoved its head in with a baseball bat so they could come and free it and let it go.

Exactly that

Takes a sick individual to smash an animals head in

Or watch as it eats your hens.."

Would be a lot less likely with proper planning and better standards to avoid all this in the first place

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By *orthern StarsCouple  over a year ago

Durham


"The right thing to do would have been to phone the rspca or someone before he stoved its head in with a baseball bat so they could come and free it and let it go.

Exactly that

Takes a sick individual to smash an animals head in

Or watch as it eats your hens..

Would be a lot less likely with proper planning and better standards to avoid all this in the first place"

Interested to know how you would do that?

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford


"The right thing to do would have been to phone the rspca or someone before he stoved its head in with a baseball bat so they could come and free it and let it go.

Exactly that

Takes a sick individual to smash an animals head in

Or watch as it eats your hens..

Would be a lot less likely with proper planning and better standards to avoid all this in the first place"

Those were someone's backyard hens, he's not a poultry farmer.

Again, as I've said its several London borough councils approved method of dispatch, so I guess it must work. I'd have supposed that it wouldn't work that well, but I've never tried it.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford

I wonder had it been a rat what the outcry would be.. is there a hierarchy of feelings depending on their perceived status..

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford


"The right thing to do would have been to phone the rspca or someone before he stoved its head in with a baseball bat so they could come and free it and let it go.

Exactly that

Takes a sick individual to smash an animals head in

Or watch as it eats your hens..

Would be a lot less likely with proper planning and better standards to avoid all this in the first place

Those were someone's backyard hens, he's not a poultry farmer.

Again, as I've said its several London borough councils approved method of dispatch, so I guess it must work. I'd have supposed that it wouldn't work that well, but I've never tried it. "

Council workers with baseball bats.. do they wear brown shirts too ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

A lot of sick serial killers started of by killing,torturing animals. I guess humans are all wired up differently.

Some evil.

Some not...

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford


"The right thing to do would have been to phone the rspca or someone before he stoved its head in with a baseball bat so they could come and free it and let it go.

Exactly that

Takes a sick individual to smash an animals head in

Or watch as it eats your hens..

Would be a lot less likely with proper planning and better standards to avoid all this in the first place

Those were someone's backyard hens, he's not a poultry farmer.

Again, as I've said its several London borough councils approved method of dispatch, so I guess it must work. I'd have supposed that it wouldn't work that well, but I've never tried it.

Council workers with baseball bats.. do they wear brown shirts too ?"

No idea, but apparently "clubbing" is how they do it.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford


"A lot of sick serial killers started of by killing,torturing animals. I guess humans are all wired up differently.

Some evil.

Some not..."

Off your topic but he seemed to be protecting his hens..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"A lot of sick serial killers started of by killing,torturing animals. I guess humans are all wired up differently.

Some evil.

Some not...

Off your topic but he seemed to be protecting his hens.. "

The fox is hungry. Humans should not play god. Leave it to nature

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford

Humans are mammals.. part of nature

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Humans are mammals.. part of nature "

Animals was on wrath before humans

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford


"A lot of sick serial killers started of by killing,torturing animals. I guess humans are all wired up differently.

Some evil.

Some not...

Off your topic but he seemed to be protecting his hens..

The fox is hungry. Humans should not play god. Leave it to nature "

We are part of nature. I take it you've never had livestock?

Also, in that vein, would you not worm your dog? Not get rid of rats in your house?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Humans are mammals.. part of nature

Animals was on Earth before humans "

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford


"Humans are mammals.. part of nature

Animals was on Earth before humans "

Also, I assume that you live on fresh air?

Animals are killed to produce most of the food you eat.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"A lot of sick serial killers started of by killing,torturing animals. I guess humans are all wired up differently.

Some evil.

Some not...

Off your topic but he seemed to be protecting his hens..

The fox is hungry. Humans should not play god. Leave it to nature

We are part of nature. I take it you've never had livestock?

Also, in that vein, would you not worm your dog? Not get rid of rats in your house? "

I had turkey for my dinner today and yesterday. I’m a hypocrite.

But I wouldn’t intentionally kill and creature for the crack.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford

It wasn't for the crack.. the fox was after the hens

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford


"A lot of sick serial killers started of by killing,torturing animals. I guess humans are all wired up differently.

Some evil.

Some not...

Off your topic but he seemed to be protecting his hens..

The fox is hungry. Humans should not play god. Leave it to nature

We are part of nature. I take it you've never had livestock?

Also, in that vein, would you not worm your dog? Not get rid of rats in your house?

I had turkey for my dinner today and yesterday. I’m a hypocrite.

But I wouldn’t intentionally kill and creature for the crack."

Who would?

In this case a fox had caught itself in a fence, I imagine at the very least it was in considerable distress, at the most, it was strangling itself.

Ever had to get an animal out of a fence? I have.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford

Free to attack a hen...?

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford


"A lot of sick serial killers started of by killing,torturing animals. I guess humans are all wired up differently.

Some evil.

Some not...

Off your topic but he seemed to be protecting his hens..

The fox is hungry. Humans should not play god. Leave it to nature

We are part of nature. I take it you've never had livestock?

Also, in that vein, would you not worm your dog? Not get rid of rats in your house?

I had turkey for my dinner today and yesterday. I’m a hypocrite.

But I wouldn’t intentionally kill and creature for the crack."

We all kill to eat..no shame there.. you are no hypocrite..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"A lot of sick serial killers started of by killing,torturing animals. I guess humans are all wired up differently.

Some evil.

Some not...

Off your topic but he seemed to be protecting his hens..

The fox is hungry. Humans should not play god. Leave it to nature

We are part of nature. I take it you've never had livestock?

Also, in that vein, would you not worm your dog? Not get rid of rats in your house?

I had turkey for my dinner today and yesterday. I’m a hypocrite.

But I wouldn’t intentionally kill and creature for the crack.

We all kill to eat..no shame there.. you are no hypocrite.."

I’ll keep a look out for turkeys with baseball bats then. Will be my pay back

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Foxes have killed my chickens a few times over the years. And yes it's distressing the see the aftermath but I don't blame the foxes. The fox was hungry and my chickens were not fully protected obviously. Its nature but I'd never purposely kill any animal even a rat.

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By *ara JTV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East


"

The fox is hungry. Humans should not play god. Leave it to nature "

Bit late for that.

The human species has demarcated much of the world for the industrial production of those species we want to consume.

Those species we do not want to consume have been pushed out to the margins where they begin to die out.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The right thing to do would have been to phone the rspca or someone before he stoved its head in with a baseball bat so they could come and free it and let it go."

He did apparently

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By *moothdickMan  over a year ago

stoke

A fox is one of the few animals that kills for fun, along with us... so I say if the fox had a baseball bat, would he have stoved in the humans head ???

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By *adysueandneroCouple  over a year ago

witney

So many opinions, but little if any knowledge of the law.

As for the RSPCA they will only turn out if they think they can get some publicity from it.

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By *reasyontheeyesMan  over a year ago

out in the sticks


" because of the hunt saboteurs the government are intending to make trespass a criminal offence so they can be prosecuted "

About time too! Finding 4 masked intruders causing damage to your property is no laughing matter!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The guy is a piece of shit. Simple

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"A fox is one of the few animals that kills for fun, along with us... so I say if the fox had a baseball bat, would he have stoved in the humans head ??? "

They don't kill for fun.

They kill what they can and come back for it at a later date. The reason being is they don't know when their next meal will be so they take advantage.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The guy is a piece of shit. Simple"

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By *ara JTV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East


"So many opinions, but little if any knowledge of the law.

As for the RSPCA they will only turn out if they think they can get some publicity from it."

No knowledge of the law, but plenty knowledge of the RSPCA

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford

Should an owner defend their chickens ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Should an owner defend their chickens ?"

Yes but not that way! Fucking stupid and idiotic thr way he went about it

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By *uzukiNo1Woman  over a year ago

Rhyl

Should of built a better chicken coop.......baseball bat over the head? Think that's disgusting....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Should of built a better chicken coop.......baseball bat over the head? Think that's disgusting...."

Better fencing too.

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By *ust do it 69Man  over a year ago

Gateshead

Ah would of set the terriers on it, never mind a baseball bat

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By *ust do it 69Man  over a year ago

Gateshead

Ah would of set the terriers on it, never mind a baseball bat

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"Ah would of set the terriers on it, never mind a baseball bat "

Wouldn't your wife have minded?

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By *ENGUYMan  over a year ago

Hull

What I cannot understand with this sorry event, is that a guy who is so talented in his career & profession as a Barrister, is utterly clueless, let alone brain dead, as to know what to do in this situation?

Memo to myself. If I ever have to appear in court for a minor offence and he's my Defence counsel, I'll end up on the end of a noose and a Long Drop!

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford


"What I cannot understand with this sorry event, is that a guy who is so talented in his career & profession as a Barrister, is utterly clueless, let alone brain dead, as to know what to do in this situation?

Memo to myself. If I ever have to appear in court for a minor offence and he's my Defence counsel, I'll end up on the end of a noose and a Long Drop! "

What would you have done ?

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"What I cannot understand with this sorry event, is that a guy who is so talented in his career & profession as a Barrister, is utterly clueless, let alone brain dead, as to know what to do in this situation?

Memo to myself. If I ever have to appear in court for a minor offence and he's my Defence counsel, I'll end up on the end of a noose and a Long Drop!

What would you have done ?"

Not tweet about killing a fox i hope.

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

It all seems very odd to me.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford

Could see it another way..

Hero saves frightened chickens by dispatching a snarling predator..

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By *icentiousCouple  over a year ago

Up on them there hills


"So he used a bat ? Maybe he should be beaten around the skull with one see how he likes it absolutely barbaric "

Barbaric, you should see what a fox leaves behind after it has been in a run.

A 4/10 would have been better, that or it too

be force chocked on a hen.

Now badges, they also make a right mess.

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By *ommenhimCouple  over a year ago

wigan


"Could see it another way..

Hero saves frightened chickens by dispatching a snarling predator.. "

Could see it another way... never happened

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"Could see it another way..

Hero saves frightened chickens by dispatching a snarling predator..

Could see it another way... never happened "

Seems a funny thing to brag about.

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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East Sussex


"Could see it another way..

Hero saves frightened chickens by dispatching a snarling predator.. "

I suppose it depends on if you're the chicken or the fox. On balance it seems that people prefer many dead chickens to one dead fox

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford


"Could see it another way..

Hero saves frightened chickens by dispatching a snarling predator..

I suppose it depends on if you're the chicken or the fox. On balance it seems that people prefer many dead chickens to one dead fox"

Agreed and I for one have no preference or judgement on that

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By *ommenhimCouple  over a year ago

wigan


"Could see it another way..

Hero saves frightened chickens by dispatching a snarling predator..

Could see it another way... never happened

Seems a funny thing to brag about. "

There are some who would consider this a macho act .... I think anyone who had done this with any thought before during or after wouldn’t be broadcasting in this manner! There’s no benefit to further mention of the incident ... if the decision was made quickly to either benefit the chickens or the fox it matters not .... I would suggest someone balanced would keep the incident to themselves rather than sharing the blame, the pain, etc with others! But no worries, it’s my belief that no animals were harmed in the making of this none sense!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Why would anyone kill a fox and then think I've broken the law, better ring the rspca now.

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By *adysueandneroCouple  over a year ago

witney


"So many opinions, but little if any knowledge of the law.

As for the RSPCA they will only turn out if they think they can get some publicity from it.

No knowledge of the law, but plenty knowledge of the RSPCA

"

Having been the owner of a pest control business I do have knowledge of the law.

All wildlife, including rats, mice and foxes is protected under the wildlife and countryside act.

There are aproved methods of control for all pests and vermin with severe penalties for anyone that brakes the rules.

Here is a question; which of these would be against the law. If you saw a fox badly injured on the side of the road . Would you (A) asuming you had a firearm, Shoot it.

(B) take a jack handle out of the boot of your car and end its suffering with a swift blow to the back of its head.

Which is the most likely to land you in court?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

If you kill a fox you risk a brush with the law.....

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By *adysueandneroCouple  over a year ago

witney


"If you kill a fox you risk a brush with the law....."

Depends how you kill it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So many opinions, but little if any knowledge of the law.

As for the RSPCA they will only turn out if they think they can get some publicity from it.

No knowledge of the law, but plenty knowledge of the RSPCA

Having been the owner of a pest control business I do have knowledge of the law.

All wildlife, including rats, mice and foxes is protected under the wildlife and countryside act.

There are aproved methods of control for all pests and vermin with severe penalties for anyone that brakes the rules.

Here is a question; which of these would be against the law. If you saw a fox badly injured on the side of the road . Would you (A) asuming you had a firearm, Shoot it.

(B) take a jack handle out of the boot of your car and end its suffering with a swift blow to the back of its head.

Which is the most likely to land you in court?

"

This what I was trying to say but got shot down for it. Thank you

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If you kill a fox you risk a brush with the law.....

Depends how you kill it."

....Go to the back of the [punology] class...

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"So many opinions, but little if any knowledge of the law.

As for the RSPCA they will only turn out if they think they can get some publicity from it.

No knowledge of the law, but plenty knowledge of the RSPCA

Having been the owner of a pest control business I do have knowledge of the law.

All wildlife, including rats, mice and foxes is protected under the wildlife and countryside act.

There are aproved methods of control for all pests and vermin with severe penalties for anyone that brakes the rules.

Here is a question; which of these would be against the law. If you saw a fox badly injured on the side of the road . Would you (A) asuming you had a firearm, Shoot it.

(B) take a jack handle out of the boot of your car and end its suffering with a swift blow to the back of its head.

Which is the most likely to land you in court?

This what I was trying to say but got shot down for it. Thank you

"

But which is it? Im assuming the jack handle?

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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East Sussex


"If you kill a fox you risk a brush with the law....."

Is that a Basil Brush with the law.

Boom boom

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By *adysueandneroCouple  over a year ago

witney


"So many opinions, but little if any knowledge of the law.

As for the RSPCA they will only turn out if they think they can get some publicity from it.

No knowledge of the law, but plenty knowledge of the RSPCA

Having been the owner of a pest control business I do have knowledge of the law.

All wildlife, including rats, mice and foxes is protected under the wildlife and countryside act.

There are aproved methods of control for all pests and vermin with severe penalties for anyone that brakes the rules.

Here is a question; which of these would be against the law. If you saw a fox badly injured on the side of the road . Would you (A) asuming you had a firearm, Shoot it.

(B) take a jack handle out of the boot of your car and end its suffering with a swift blow to the back of its head.

Which is the most likely to land you in court?

This what I was trying to say but got shot down for it. Thank you

But which is it? Im assuming the jack handle?"

Discharging a firearm in a public place (even a legally owned one) is a criminal offence and will land you in court, and most likely prison.

It is however perfectly legal to dispatch a injured animal with a jackhandle or similar object.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man  over a year ago

Chelmsford

When I used to go seafishing with friends we all used to dispatch the fish with a metal bar. That's how it is mostly done.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

What a cunt

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