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Is sugar tax a good idea?

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Contuniue here it was interesting to see the replys, they are planning to introduce it more so to the younger ones to keep them healthy, how would it work?

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By *lap.n.tickleCouple  over a year ago

sunny Manchester :)

How long before I'm spending more on than bloody jd. Nanny state end of thread

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By *lap.n.tickleCouple  over a year ago

sunny Manchester :)


"How long before I'm spending more on than bloody jd. Nanny state end of thread "

Insert the word

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By *lap.n.tickleCouple  over a year ago

sunny Manchester :)


"How long before I'm spending more on than bloody jd. Nanny state end of thread

Insert the word "

Ehhh I mean the drinking kind ffs c@ke

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By *oupleforxtrafunCouple  over a year ago

Nottingham

Yes tax all if it’s the main problem of obesity and causing massive strain on the NHS it needs taxing

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By *unnyfookMan  over a year ago

Naas

sugar is causing one of the biggest health issues on the planet, taxing it is not fair as its one of the most addictive products going. Its in everything we eat

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yes tax all if it’s the main problem of obesity and causing massive strain on the NHS it needs taxing "

This

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By *irthandgirthMan  over a year ago

Camberley occasionally doncaster

As well as a sugar tax, I would also put a levy on processed meals.

I would counter this by subsidising fruit and veg.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Yes, but it should be born by the companies making products. This would hopefully help them produce things with less sugar.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"As well as a sugar tax, I would also put a levy on processed meals.

I would counter this by subsidising fruit and veg."

Perfect answer, many families apparently can’t afford decent food.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Are you aware there is already a tariff(tax) on sugar cane of over 100%, before the sugar tax, and you of course then pay VAT on the tariff and the sugar tax.

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By *irthandgirthMan  over a year ago

Camberley occasionally doncaster


"As well as a sugar tax, I would also put a levy on processed meals.

I would counter this by subsidising fruit and veg.

Perfect answer, many families apparently can’t afford decent food."

Many families dont know how to cook properly on a budget. I eat bloody well for around £30 per week. And I eat a lot.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Well it worked for cigarettes NOT!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The food we eat isn't the obesity problem, it's the lifestyle we are now living. We have created a lazy society. Games consoles, mobile phones, internet shopping and social media are just some of the causes

Address the source of the problem not the after effects of it

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"As well as a sugar tax, I would also put a levy on processed meals.

I would counter this by subsidising fruit and veg.

Perfect answer, many families apparently can’t afford decent food."

Those mingers don't want decent food! They want processed animal parts, Turkey twizzlers etc! You remember the parents smuggling fast food to their sprogs at lunchtime? They want the easy way,

the short cut! Fuck 'em.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"As well as a sugar tax, I would also put a levy on processed meals.

I would counter this by subsidising fruit and veg.

Perfect answer, many families apparently can’t afford decent food.

Many families dont know how to cook properly on a budget. I eat bloody well for around £30 per week. And I eat a lot."

That is right and same here I can eat alot for less and it is healthy, it is a myth that healthy food costs more.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

If they’re going to tax sugar, then they need to drop the price of better healthy food. I was in Tesco and the low fat foods were way more expensive than the regular ones.

You get penalised for eating healthy.

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By *ightkitty4uWoman  over a year ago

Epsom

It’s a nightmare finding full fat when I have a hungover!

On a serious note, diabetics when have a hypo/sugar crash, you have to get twice the amount of lucozade/fizzy pop into them now. It was hard enough getting a cup full into my dad when he had hypos.

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By *oruseandabuseCouple  over a year ago

chichester

A sack of potatoes, a sack of rice, pasta, carrots, Chicken etc. Milk 2 litres for a pound.

You can live off £10.00 a week

Do not let anyone tell you lack of money stops you eating healthily.

You are fat because you are lazy or stupid.... or even worse, you think it is okay to be fat.

Is that provocative enough?

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By *inn_the_humanMan  over a year ago

Edinburgh

Much though I understand all the pro's involved.... Irn Bru really doesn't taste the same now, and I'm not sure that's a price worth paying.

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By *uke OzadeMan  over a year ago

Ho Chi Minge City

Sugar Tax was the best album OMD ever made

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Too much of a nanny state,fucking conservatives,now have to pay more for my sugar fix ,although now shop at Poundland or Aldi to get my cheap sweets, no sugar tax in most of Europe or Scotland.

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By *inn_the_humanMan  over a year ago

Edinburgh


"Too much of a nanny state,fucking conservatives,now have to pay more for my sugar fix ,although now shop at Poundland or Aldi to get my cheap sweets, no sugar tax in most of Europe or Scotland."

I can assure you we have it. Deep fried Mars bars now cost a fortune

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By *andKBCouple  over a year ago

Plymouth

The sugar tax ruined ribena!!!

Tbf I rarely drink full sugar drinks C does because hes allergic to a lot of sweeteners. Which thanks to the sugar tax are being used even more now!!

Both of us can cook from scratch. We eat different meals which is tricky but we have to. I'm plant based and C isn't!! I bought a load of veg yesterday for just over a tenner will last a week. It wouldve been less but I fancied asparagus!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Kids won’t eat coco pops anymore as taste shit now.

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By *uietlykinkymeWoman  over a year ago

kinky land


"As well as a sugar tax, I would also put a levy on processed meals.

I would counter this by subsidising fruit and veg."

I could actually vote for this

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By *oruseandabuseCouple  over a year ago

chichester


"Kids won’t eat coco pops anymore as taste shit now."

So at what point did you think it appropriate to allow your children to eat Coco pops?

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By *revaunanceCouple  over a year ago

Exeter

Drop all taxes except income tax. Raise that to 40-45% and continue to allow the state to pick up the bill for sugar.

Or, start charging or treatment.

If not, then tax at the point of sale so the user pays his due.

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By *uietlykinkymeWoman  over a year ago

kinky land


"Well it worked for cigarettes NOT!!"

Actually the figures.....

I wouldn't pay that price so I quit.

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By *orthern StarsCouple  over a year ago

Durham, North Yorkshire and can travel

They can go ahead and tax it but it eon't make any difference to the obesity statistics. People will still buy sugary products as they enjoy them.

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By *oruseandabuseCouple  over a year ago

chichester


"As well as a sugar tax, I would also put a levy on processed meals.

I would counter this by subsidising fruit and veg.

I could actually vote for this "

Why do you need to subsidise?

Buy big sacks. They are ridiculously cheap.

Just tax shit out of existence

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By *orthern StarsCouple  over a year ago

Durham, North Yorkshire and can travel


"As well as a sugar tax, I would also put a levy on processed meals.

I would counter this by subsidising fruit and veg.

Perfect answer, many families apparently can’t afford decent food.

Many families dont know how to cook properly on a budget. I eat bloody well for around £30 per week. And I eat a lot.That is right and same here I can eat alot for less and it is healthy, it is a myth that healthy food costs more."

We don't think it's a myth. Buying fresh meat from the butchers, frsh fish, afresh fruit, veg, salads mounts up.

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By *orthern StarsCouple  over a year ago

Durham, North Yorkshire and can travel


"As well as a sugar tax, I would also put a levy on processed meals.

I would counter this by subsidising fruit and veg.

I could actually vote for this

Why do you need to subsidise?

Buy big sacks. They are ridiculously cheap.

Just tax shit out of existence

"

Can't buy a big sack of fresh fruit though.

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By *luebell888Woman  over a year ago

Glasgowish


"As well as a sugar tax, I would also put a levy on processed meals.

I would counter this by subsidising fruit and veg.

Perfect answer, many families apparently can’t afford decent food.

Many families dont know how to cook properly on a budget. I eat bloody well for around £30 per week. And I eat a lot.That is right and same here I can eat alot for less and it is healthy, it is a myth that healthy food costs more.

We don't think it's a myth. Buying fresh meat from the butchers, frsh fish, afresh fruit, veg, salads mounts up."

I spend very little on food. You do not need fresh butcher meat to survive. For dinner isometimes have beans on toast and other days i may have homemade soup and both fill me up. People in this country waste far too much money on food.

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By *inkerbell67Woman  over a year ago

Clacton on sea essex

Everything has suger in ,some of its hidden like in fruit ,..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

How about spending the money on claiming the tax of the rich ones who avoid it rather than the rest of us who are struggling and see an odd threat as a treat not a necessarity.

Fine the companies for over use. Not us

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By *orthern StarsCouple  over a year ago

Durham, North Yorkshire and can travel


"As well as a sugar tax, I would also put a levy on processed meals.

I would counter this by subsidising fruit and veg.

Perfect answer, many families apparently can’t afford decent food.

Many families dont know how to cook properly on a budget. I eat bloody well for around £30 per week. And I eat a lot.That is right and same here I can eat alot for less and it is healthy, it is a myth that healthy food costs more.

We don't think it's a myth. Buying fresh meat from the butchers, frsh fish, afresh fruit, veg, salads mounts up.

I spend very little on food. You do not need fresh butcher meat to survive. For dinner isometimes have beans on toast and other days i may have homemade soup and both fill me up. People in this country waste far too much money on food."

You're right, you don't need fresh butcher meat to survive, but we like to eat proper good quality well balanced nutritious healthy meals. It's whatever people are happy consuming.

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By *hunky GentMan  over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough

It's a sweet idea.......

I'll get me coat

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By *revaunanceCouple  over a year ago

Exeter


"How about spending the money on claiming the tax of the rich ones who avoid it rather than the rest of us who are struggling and see an odd threat as a treat not a necessarity.

Fine the companies for over use. Not us"

Companies do not get diabetes or other sugar related health problems.

And surely the 'rich ones' would be paying their fair share of a sugar tax anyway if they have bought the product?

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By *oruseandabuseCouple  over a year ago

chichester


"Everything has suger in ,some of its hidden like in fruit ,.."

There is a huge difference between fructose and processed sugars. Just look at GI,GL and short chain molecules.

It is all about absorption times.

I a keeping it simple.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I used to love a bottle of Lucozade before sugar tax.. So no I think its a bad idea.

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By *oruseandabuseCouple  over a year ago

chichester


"How about spending the money on claiming the tax of the rich ones who avoid it rather than the rest of us who are struggling and see an odd threat as a treat not a necessarity.

Fine the companies for over use. Not us"

And so the chav in B&Q today who was paying with 3 £50 notes was legit?

Why does anyone use 'Cash' these days? Unless they have acquired it dubiously.

Surly we should make all cash transactions illegal

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Kids won’t eat coco pops anymore as taste shit now.

So at what point did you think it appropriate to allow your children to eat Coco pops?"

Since they were old enough to enjoy food

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"How about spending the money on claiming the tax of the rich ones who avoid it rather than the rest of us who are struggling and see an odd threat as a treat not a necessarity.

Fine the companies for over use. Not us

And so the chav in B&Q today who was paying with 3 £50 notes was legit?

Why does anyone use 'Cash' these days? Unless they have acquired it dubiously.

Surly we should make all cash transactions illegal

"

I use cash because I get paid with cash.

I've hardly used a card in my life and I don't want to.

as long as I can keep using cash I will. Fack the cards and pin numbers.. All that nonsense does my head.

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By *icentiousCouple  over a year ago

Up on them there hills

Too me the window tax didn’t work for vitamin d.

What happens is sugar is a Darwin catalyst?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Just another scam to rip us all off

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By *oruseandabuseCouple  over a year ago

chichester


"Kids won’t eat coco pops anymore as taste shit now.

So at what point did you think it appropriate to allow your children to eat Coco pops?

Since they were old enough to enjoy food "

Wow!!! Are you really that stupid?

Are you really happy to let your children die early from ignorance? Obesity is our biggest killer.

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By *orthern StarsCouple  over a year ago

Durham, North Yorkshire and can travel


"How about spending the money on claiming the tax of the rich ones who avoid it rather than the rest of us who are struggling and see an odd threat as a treat not a necessarity.

Fine the companies for over use. Not us

And so the chav in B&Q today who was paying with 3 £50 notes was legit?

Why does anyone use 'Cash' these days? Unless they have acquired it dubiously.

Surly we should make all cash transactions illegal

"

Huh?????

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By *orthern StarsCouple  over a year ago

Durham, North Yorkshire and can travel


"Kids won’t eat coco pops anymore as taste shit now.

So at what point did you think it appropriate to allow your children to eat Coco pops?

Since they were old enough to enjoy food

Wow!!! Are you really that stupid?

Are you really happy to let your children die early from ignorance? Obesity is our biggest killer."

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just another scam to rip us all off "

Yes,rather than make healthy food ! cheaper,tax so called unhealthy food ,drinks ,alcohol etc

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"How about spending the money on claiming the tax of the rich ones who avoid it rather than the rest of us who are struggling and see an odd threat as a treat not a necessarity.

Fine the companies for over use. Not us

And so the chav in B&Q today who was paying with 3 £50 notes was legit?

Why does anyone use 'Cash' these days? Unless they have acquired it dubiously.

Surly we should make all cash transactions illegal

Huh????? "

Huh good point

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By *orthern StarsCouple  over a year ago

Durham, North Yorkshire and can travel


"How about spending the money on claiming the tax of the rich ones who avoid it rather than the rest of us who are struggling and see an odd threat as a treat not a necessarity.

Fine the companies for over use. Not us

And so the chav in B&Q today who was paying with 3 £50 notes was legit?

Why does anyone use 'Cash' these days? Unless they have acquired it dubiously.

Surly we should make all cash transactions illegal

Huh?????

Huh good point "

I'm totally bamboozled how some peoples minds work.Cash illegal??!!! Whatever next!

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By *oruseandabuseCouple  over a year ago

chichester


"How about spending the money on claiming the tax of the rich ones who avoid it rather than the rest of us who are struggling and see an odd threat as a treat not a necessarity.

Fine the companies for over use. Not us

And so the chav in B&Q today who was paying with 3 £50 notes was legit?

Why does anyone use 'Cash' these days? Unless they have acquired it dubiously.

Surly we should make all cash transactions illegal

Huh?????

Huh good point

I'm totally bamboozled how some peoples minds work.Cash illegal??!!! Whatever next!"

And if you were being honest why would you need it?

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By *orthern StarsCouple  over a year ago

Durham, North Yorkshire and can travel


"How about spending the money on claiming the tax of the rich ones who avoid it rather than the rest of us who are struggling and see an odd threat as a treat not a necessarity.

Fine the companies for over use. Not us

And so the chav in B&Q today who was paying with 3 £50 notes was legit?

Why does anyone use 'Cash' these days? Unless they have acquired it dubiously.

Surly we should make all cash transactions illegal

Huh?????

Huh good point

I'm totally bamboozled how some peoples minds work.Cash illegal??!!! Whatever next!

And if you were being honest why would you need it?"

Many small businesses don't have card facilities. What happens in a power cut...card machines in shops go down. There is 2 examples off the top of my head.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I read the last few hours worth of this and was gonna put a laughy face under too many comments!!

So here’s just one to cover it

Wtf?!! I’ll get back to my coco pops now (that I paid for with cash)

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By *hunky GentMan  over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough


"I read the last few hours worth of this and was gonna put a laughy face under too many comments!!

So here’s just one to cover it

Wtf?!! I’ll get back to my coco pops now (that I paid for with cash) "

You rebel, you. Xx

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By *orthern StarsCouple  over a year ago

Durham, North Yorkshire and can travel


"I read the last few hours worth of this and was gonna put a laughy face under too many comments!!

So here’s just one to cover it

Wtf?!! I’ll get back to my coco pops now (that I paid for with cash) "

That's the post of the night....and one of the most common sense we have seen all night.

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By *oruseandabuseCouple  over a year ago

chichester


"Everything has suger in ,some of its hidden like in fruit ,..

There is a huge difference between fructose and processed sugars. Just look at GI,GL and short chain molecules.

It is all about absorption times.

I a keeping it simple."

I'm so glad to see that all the comments are about your right to avoid paying tax by using cash rather than killing you and your family with sugar

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Everything has suger in ,some of its hidden like in fruit ,..

There is a huge difference between fructose and processed sugars. Just look at GI,GL and short chain molecules.

It is all about absorption times.

I a keeping it simple.

I'm so glad to see that all the comments are about your right to avoid paying tax by using cash rather than killing you and your family with sugar"

Erm hang on there one minute. I get paid mostly in cash and I pay my taxes. And my kids are allowed chocolate cereal at weekends. You do like to exaggerate!

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By *orthern StarsCouple  over a year ago

Durham, North Yorkshire and can travel


"Everything has suger in ,some of its hidden like in fruit ,..

There is a huge difference between fructose and processed sugars. Just look at GI,GL and short chain molecules.

It is all about absorption times.

I a keeping it simple.

I'm so glad to see that all the comments are about your right to avoid paying tax by using cash rather than killing you and your family with sugar"

.

How do you avoid paying tax by using cash?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Everything has suger in ,some of its hidden like in fruit ,.."

You ever watch pizza dough being made. Youd be shocked how much sugar there is in that pizza dough !!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Everything has suger in ,some of its hidden like in fruit ,..

There is a huge difference between fructose and processed sugars. Just look at GI,GL and short chain molecules.

It is all about absorption times.

I a keeping it simple.

I'm so glad to see that all the comments are about your right to avoid paying tax by using cash rather than killing you and your family with sugar

Erm hang on there one minute. I get paid mostly in cash and I pay my taxes. And my kids are allowed chocolate cereal at weekends. You do like to exaggerate!"

Nora knows her stuff she's been my financial advisor

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Facebook users should pay annual tax.

Soon get people off it and back to work!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Soon they will introduce breathing tax. It’s becoming like the horrible old ages now.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"As well as a sugar tax, I would also put a levy on processed meals.

I would counter this by subsidising fruit and veg.

Perfect answer, many families apparently can’t afford decent food.

Many families dont know how to cook properly on a budget. I eat bloody well for around £30 per week. And I eat a lot.That is right and same here I can eat alot for less and it is healthy, it is a myth that healthy food costs more.

We don't think it's a myth. Buying fresh meat from the butchers, frsh fish, afresh fruit, veg, salads mounts up.

I spend very little on food. You do not need fresh butcher meat to survive. For dinner isometimes have beans on toast and other days i may have homemade soup and both fill me up. People in this country waste far too much money on food.

You're right, you don't need fresh butcher meat to survive, but we like to eat proper good quality well balanced nutritious healthy meals. It's whatever people are happy consuming. "

That is good but still anyone can eat good food for under a fiver a day feeding the whole family, tuna rice and mix veg for example just cook a big rice portion and oats in the morning.

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By *otsossieMan  over a year ago

Chesterfield

Sugar tax would need to be extraordinary to affect me.

More of a problem is the supermarkets only seem to sell shit.

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By *angOnBunnyCouple  over a year ago

Ipswich


"As well as a sugar tax, I would also put a levy on processed meals.

I would counter this by subsidising fruit and veg.

Perfect answer, many families apparently can’t afford decent food.

Many families dont know how to cook properly on a budget. I eat bloody well for around £30 per week. And I eat a lot.That is right and same here I can eat alot for less and it is healthy, it is a myth that healthy food costs more.

We don't think it's a myth. Buying fresh meat from the butchers, frsh fish, afresh fruit, veg, salads mounts up.

I spend very little on food. You do not need fresh butcher meat to survive. For dinner isometimes have beans on toast and other days i may have homemade soup and both fill me up. People in this country waste far too much money on food.

You're right, you don't need fresh butcher meat to survive, but we like to eat proper good quality well balanced nutritious healthy meals. It's whatever people are happy consuming. That is good but still anyone can eat good food for under a fiver a day feeding the whole family, tuna rice and mix veg for example just cook a big rice portion and oats in the morning."

Just this. It's far cheaper, quicker and healthier we find to cook fresh. Also, we do a lot of shopping out of the super market, so use the Asian stores for spices and big 10KG bags of rice, lentils etc. Super markets are far too expensive for most things. Local markets are good for veg and a good butcher for meat is better cuts for less in our area. Leftovers are not thrown away, you can make bubble and squeak from spuds and veg etc.

As far as sugar tax goes, they replace with artificial sweeteners that we dislike, so we find it very hard to get a good tonic now for our Gin

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