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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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'Food packs should display how much exercise a person would need to take to burn off the calories contained in the product, UK researchers say.
Appreciating it would take four hours to walk off the calories in a pizza creates an awareness of the energy cost of food, they say.
The aim is to encourage healthier eating habits to fight obesity.'
Do you think this will work, or will it trigger people into feeling guilty and so eating more?
Or should the government just ration food like in war times so people save money and lose weight? Food banks for all. 
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It's not useful really though because we're all using calories up all the time, even just sitting still. So it wouldn't really take four hours of running for everyone, a person with a very active job wouldn't need four hours while someone with a sedentary lifestyle would. Information on isolation isn't useful. |
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"I think it could work for some. But let’s be realistic I think most people would not even look at labels and that’s if they are not constantly on their phones "
I just look at the carb value, the higher that is the less of it I eat. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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It wouldn't work at all! The most calories we use a day is for ourselves ie basic needs plus if you depress people more you're triggering all the emotional eaters to eat more calories!
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I think it's I'll thought out. I bet the premise bit I can hand.om heart say that knowing how much exercise I'll.brex to do will not deter me from eating a chocolate bar.
I also think that charities such as BEAT will not agree with it as exercising to negate calories is a massive issue with people who have anorexia. |
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Most packaged food shows calories. Everyone knows the more calories something has the less of it you should eat. If that hasn't worked I'm not sure exercise requirements would either.
Although I do think lots of people aren't aware of how much exercise a human body needs to stay fit. |
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Pictures of cancerous lungs didn’t stop people smoking......what makes you think that a lecture on a food box will.
Here’s a good idea, how about stop trying to nanny people and control their lives and let them be responsible for their own life choices. |
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"Pictures of cancerous lungs didn’t stop people smoking......what makes you think that a lecture on a food box will.
Here’s a good idea, how about stop trying to nanny people and control their lives and let them be responsible for their own life choices."
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I think everything in life should come with a consequence warning, the individual can relate to, so it's great.
Other examples?
Fab singles can be provided with examples of one bedroom bedsits and a divorce bill?
Barebackers, some pussy oozing, itchy genital shots?
The list goes on. Bring back those government information adverts, that scared the crap out of you  I never went near an electric pylon after that poor lad went to retrieve his kite and got smoked |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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" I think everything in life should come with a consequence warning, the individual can relate to, so it's great.
Other examples?
Fab singles can be provided with examples of one bedroom bedsits and a divorce bill?
Barebackers, some pussy oozing, itchy genital shots?
The list goes on. Bring back those government information adverts, that scared the crap out of you I never went near an electric pylon after that poor lad went to retrieve his kite and got smoked "
That could be a whole new thread.  |
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By *ocbigMan
over a year ago
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"Pictures of cancerous lungs didn’t stop people smoking......what makes you think that a lecture on a food box will.
Here’s a good idea, how about stop trying to nanny people and control their lives and let them be responsible for their own life choices. "
the problem being society pays the price of poor life choices, if it was purely personal 'prices' paid, be that COPD, obesity etc then all well & good, but as our NHS is set up..which I wholeheartedly support..then those choices impact others, unfair to do this & I do it only as an illustration...your bariatric surgery cost someone elses cancer treatment, one avoidable consequence, one not. (depending on type of cancer). |
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"Pictures of cancerous lungs didn’t stop people smoking......what makes you think that a lecture on a food box will.
Here’s a good idea, how about stop trying to nanny people and control their lives and let them be responsible for their own life choices."
Is trying to educate people to lead a healthier life style or to be a little more knowledgeable about their diet really "nannying" them? |
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"I think it could work for some. But let’s be realistic I think most people would not even look at labels and that’s if they are not constantly on their phones
I just look at the carb value, the higher that is the less of it I eat."
Now that a very good point there. But also i think you should in moderation because if you’re busy you’re going gain |
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Surely it is way too simplestic to say one pizza is 4 hours running.
What size pizza?
What toppings? Extra cheese and sausage is going to be far more calorific than anchovy
The person's size and fitness. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think people who are interested in this already know. Plus they don't mention everyone needs a certain number of calories per day. I think mine is a shade over 2000..My crossfit freak son packs in @4000 daily! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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What about the people that don’t need or want to lose weight?
If some one put me on rations for a sustained period of time I’d probably curl up and waste away! |
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"Surely it is way too simplestic to say one pizza is 4 hours running.
What size pizza?
What toppings? Extra cheese and sausage is going to be far more calorific than anchovy
The person's size and fitness."
I hate thick crust pizzas. Considering the carbs you get in the base, an ultra thin crust is better and it doesn't dilute the case of the toppings.
Get a shawarma on a pitta and a small portion of fries instead. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Pictures of cancerous lungs didn’t stop people smoking......what makes you think that a lecture on a food box will.
Here’s a good idea, how about stop trying to nanny people and control their lives and let them be responsible for their own life choices."
yes I agree.
Overeating is an addiction just like smoking etc ..
I doubt anyone who eats an entire meat feast pizza gives a shit about how long it takes to burn off.
The concept of ' stop fucking eating to lose weight' isn't lost on even the very stupid.
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"Pictures of cancerous lungs didn’t stop people smoking......what makes you think that a lecture on a food box will.
Here’s a good idea, how about stop trying to nanny people and control their lives and let them be responsible for their own life choices.
the problem being society pays the price of poor life choices, if it was purely personal 'prices' paid, be that COPD, obesity etc then all well & good, but as our NHS is set up..which I wholeheartedly support..then those choices impact others, unfair to do this & I do it only as an illustration...your bariatric surgery cost someone elses cancer treatment, one avoidable consequence, one not. (depending on type of cancer)."
There are lots of avoidable consequences that affect the NHS besides obesity. Sports injuries, work related injuries & illnesses for example.
How far should this nannying go? Ban football, mountain biking, welding?
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"Pictures of cancerous lungs didn’t stop people smoking......what makes you think that a lecture on a food box will.
Here’s a good idea, how about stop trying to nanny people and control their lives and let them be responsible for their own life choices.
Is trying to educate people to lead a healthier life style or to be a little more knowledgeable about their diet really "nannying" them?"
Yes, by definition I think It is. |
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"Pictures of cancerous lungs didn’t stop people smoking......what makes you think that a lecture on a food box will.
Here’s a good idea, how about stop trying to nanny people and control their lives and let them be responsible for their own life choices.
the problem being society pays the price of poor life choices, if it was purely personal 'prices' paid, be that COPD, obesity etc then all well & good, but as our NHS is set up..which I wholeheartedly support..then those choices impact others, unfair to do this & I do it only as an illustration...your bariatric surgery cost someone elses cancer treatment, one avoidable consequence, one not. (depending on type of cancer).
There are lots of avoidable consequences that affect the NHS besides obesity. Sports injuries, work related injuries & illnesses for example.
How far should this nannying go? Ban football, mountain biking, welding?
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No... the football mountain biking and well not welding.... are beneficial in most Cases .... the ones who do get injured, I imagine, are outweighed by the numerous benefits from the activity. Welding I guess as a hobby is unlikely to cause most great issue due to low exposure to welding fumes and UV .... if it’s for work then measures should be in place by the employer. |
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Sounds like it's worth a try to me. It probably helps people make more informed choices as '30 minutes running' is more easily interpreted than '400 calories'.
The problem is critics will get pedantic and argue that calorie burn depends on the individual and therefore dismiss the whole concept.
My one concern is it does sort of imply exercise is all about burning calories/weight loss which is part of the wider body negativity trend |
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The thing is it's cheaper to buy a bag of frozen chips pizza nuggets etc that will make meals for the week for a family than it is to buy fresh fruits n veg meats etc
For example a salad pot is say £3 for 1 person
Frozen chips £1 bag of nuggets £1 bag of sausage £1 which will feed 4 people and still be some left. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"'Food packs should display how much exercise a person would need to take to burn off the calories contained in the product, UK researchers say.
Appreciating it would take four hours to walk off the calories in a pizza creates an awareness of the energy cost of food, they say.
The aim is to encourage healthier eating habits to fight obesity.'
Do you think this will work, or will it trigger people into feeling guilty and so eating more?
Or should the government just ration food like in war times so people save money and lose weight? Food banks for all.
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I'm gathering that this is for the average adult? If so I hope this too is stated on the packaging as it can vary widely. Men as a rule normally need more calories than women do. My metabolism at resting rate is between 150-200% of the average male my age, plus my job is one of the most physically active that I know of so a pizza that took the average human 40 year old adult 4 hours to burn off would probably take me about 2 hours if I have the day off or anywhere between 50 minutes and an hour and twenty on a workday?
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By *ynecplCouple
over a year ago
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It is an interesting idea but don't think it will work. The colour coded calories and nutrition data has been on packs for years and yet let's be honest how many people actually look at them.
If somebody is serious about losing weight or getting fit then yes they might find the information useful but for the majority it will just be another bit of data ignored.
We speak as a couple who decided 8 weeks ago to go on a health kick and change what we eat and fitness regime both of us have lost half a stone. |
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By *ocbigMan
over a year ago
Birmingham |
"Pictures of cancerous lungs didn’t stop people smoking......what makes you think that a lecture on a food box will.
Here’s a good idea, how about stop trying to nanny people and control their lives and let them be responsible for their own life choices.
the problem being society pays the price of poor life choices, if it was purely personal 'prices' paid, be that COPD, obesity etc then all well & good, but as our NHS is set up..which I wholeheartedly support..then those choices impact others, unfair to do this & I do it only as an illustration...your bariatric surgery cost someone elses cancer treatment, one avoidable consequence, one not. (depending on type of cancer).
There are lots of avoidable consequences that affect the NHS besides obesity. Sports injuries, work related injuries & illnesses for example.
How far should this nannying go? Ban football, mountain biking, welding?
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no one is banning pizza, just attempting to educate. I am always amused with the 'nannying' argument, trotted out when we are given information maybe we don't want to hear, but happy to be 'nannied' by the NHS when things go pear shaped. I take the point about sports injuries, but it isn't an inevitable consequence of activity, whereas overeating/poor food choices results are pretty much inevitable, that is the difference. |
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By *ocbigMan
over a year ago
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"'Food packs should display how much exercise a person would need to take to burn off the calories contained in the product, UK researchers say.
Appreciating it would take four hours to walk off the calories in a pizza creates an awareness of the energy cost of food, they say.
The aim is to encourage healthier eating habits to fight obesity.'
Do you think this will work, or will it trigger people into feeling guilty and so eating more?
Or should the government just ration food like in war times so people save money and lose weight? Food banks for all.
I'm gathering that this is for the average adult? If so I hope this too is stated on the packaging as it can vary widely. Men as a rule normally need more calories than women do. My metabolism at resting rate is between 150-200% of the average male my age, plus my job is one of the most physically active that I know of so a pizza that took the average human 40 year old adult 4 hours to burn off would probably take me about 2 hours if I have the day off or anywhere between 50 minutes and an hour and twenty on a workday?
B"
wow 150-200%? how was this arrived at? Not doubting, just curious.. |
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By *ocbigMan
over a year ago
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"The thing is it's cheaper to buy a bag of frozen chips pizza nuggets etc that will make meals for the week for a family than it is to buy fresh fruits n veg meats etc
For example a salad pot is say £3 for 1 person
Frozen chips £1 bag of nuggets £1 bag of sausage £1 which will feed 4 people and still be some left."
if you buy constituent parts of a salad pot you would pay less & have some left over...see ...choices. |
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"The thing is it's cheaper to buy a bag of frozen chips pizza nuggets etc that will make meals for the week for a family than it is to buy fresh fruits n veg meats etc
For example a salad pot is say £3 for 1 person
Frozen chips £1 bag of nuggets £1 bag of sausage £1 which will feed 4 people and still be some left."
Go to Aldi and buy the ingredients for a salad to serve with a tin of tuna and baked potato would probably cost around £3. |
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"'Food packs should display how much exercise a person would need to take to burn off the calories contained in the product, UK researchers say.
Appreciating it would take four hours to walk off the calories in a pizza creates an awareness of the energy cost of food, they say.
The aim is to encourage healthier eating habits to fight obesity.'
Do you think this will work, or will it trigger people into feeling guilty and so eating more?
Or should the government just ration food like in war times so people save money and lose weight? Food banks for all.
I'm gathering that this is for the average adult? If so I hope this too is stated on the packaging as it can vary widely. Men as a rule normally need more calories than women do. My metabolism at resting rate is between 150-200% of the average male my age, plus my job is one of the most physically active that I know of so a pizza that took the average human 40 year old adult 4 hours to burn off would probably take me about 2 hours if I have the day off or anywhere between 50 minutes and an hour and twenty on a workday?
B wow 150-200%? how was this arrived at? Not doubting, just curious.."
The fairly accurate reflection I reached between 28 and 32. At the time of going into my mid-20s, I was 6'1" and weighed about 9 stone 12, looking almost skeletal. I ate 6 meals a day, never put anything on in muscle or otherwise, even when starting weight training, though my strength grew a little at least.
It took hitting about 28 and my metabolic rate slowing slightly and upping my meal intake to 7 meals a day for me to put anything on, to finally get by my early 30s the body I wanted at 20.
Most equivalent males of that age I trained with are the equivalent of around 4 meals a day, though eating patterns varied of course, not so much by elements but timing due to different working hours etc.
Since then I assume my metabolic rate hasn't slowed proportionately more than my peers. Also aside from a 3 year or so period, I've always had fairly active jobs, meaning that my body is also very efficient at burning fuel apart from my natural metabolism. It's also ironic that at 42 I have the most physically intensive job I've had in my life!
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"The thing is it's cheaper to buy a bag of frozen chips pizza nuggets etc that will make meals for the week for a family than it is to buy fresh fruits n veg meats etc
For example a salad pot is say £3 for 1 person
Frozen chips £1 bag of nuggets £1 bag of sausage £1 which will feed 4 people and still be some left.
if you buy constituent parts of a salad pot you would pay less & have some left over...see ...choices. "
I totally agree with buying salad seperatley is cheaper and you can also buy frozen vegetables and chicken breasts to make a healthy stir fry |
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" I think everything in life should come with a consequence warning, the individual can relate to, so it's great.
Other examples?
Fab singles can be provided with examples of one bedroom bedsits and a divorce bill?
Barebackers, some pussy oozing, itchy genital shots?
The list goes on. Bring back those government information adverts, that scared the crap out of you I never went near an electric pylon after that poor lad went to retrieve his kite and got smoked "
You might have something there ya know. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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" I think everything in life should come with a consequence warning, the individual can relate to, so it's great.
Other examples?
Fab singles can be provided with examples of one bedroom bedsits and a divorce bill?
Barebackers, some pussy oozing, itchy genital shots?
The list goes on. Bring back those government information adverts, that scared the crap out of you I never went near an electric pylon after that poor lad went to retrieve his kite and got smoked "
The last part of this is hilarious! Like the safety videos you used to be shown in school of how to be safe on a farm Pah hahahahahaha |
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By *ocbigMan
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"'Food packs should display how much exercise a person would need to take to burn off the calories contained in the product, UK researchers say.
Appreciating it would take four hours to walk off the calories in a pizza creates an awareness of the energy cost of food, they say.
The aim is to encourage healthier eating habits to fight obesity.'
Do you think this will work, or will it trigger people into feeling guilty and so eating more?
Or should the government just ration food like in war times so people save money and lose weight? Food banks for all.
I'm gathering that this is for the average adult? If so I hope this too is stated on the packaging as it can vary widely. Men as a rule normally need more calories than women do. My metabolism at resting rate is between 150-200% of the average male my age, plus my job is one of the most physically active that I know of so a pizza that took the average human 40 year old adult 4 hours to burn off would probably take me about 2 hours if I have the day off or anywhere between 50 minutes and an hour and twenty on a workday?
B wow 150-200%? how was this arrived at? Not doubting, just curious..
The fairly accurate reflection I reached between 28 and 32. At the time of going into my mid-20s, I was 6'1" and weighed about 9 stone 12, looking almost skeletal. I ate 6 meals a day, never put anything on in muscle or otherwise, even when starting weight training, though my strength grew a little at least.
It took hitting about 28 and my metabolic rate slowing slightly and upping my meal intake to 7 meals a day for me to put anything on, to finally get by my early 30s the body I wanted at 20.
Most equivalent males of that age I trained with are the equivalent of around 4 meals a day, though eating patterns varied of course, not so much by elements but timing due to different working hours etc.
Since then I assume my metabolic rate hasn't slowed proportionately more than my peers. Also aside from a 3 year or so period, I've always had fairly active jobs, meaning that my body is also very efficient at burning fuel apart from my natural metabolism. It's also ironic that at 42 I have the most physically intensive job I've had in my life!
B"
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By *essie.Woman
over a year ago
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There is a link between some of the population in their mental well-being and food intake.
They berate themselves about it anyway. Would those labels help, possibly for some. We all learn differently so I’m guessing different ways will work for different people. |
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