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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Its a great sport _ith so much positive influence so _hy do folks still sho_ racism to footballers at the games?
Its a sad thing to see. Its an inclusive sport and brings people together _orld_ide so _here the heck does the racist element come in? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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" Bit tautological is this
INNIT."
Thank for your input, I really should _rite more concise OP’s. OP’s more to the point are something I should _ork on.   |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Its a great sport _ith so much positive influence so _hy do folks still sho_ racism to footballers at the games?
Its a sad thing to see. Its an inclusive sport and brings people together _orld_ide so _here the heck does the racist element come in? "
Unfortunately its "racism in football" it's just racism.
People are racist every_here it just gets amplified in football that's all.
People get d*unk and loud and let out the feelings they usually keep hidden.
Racism is a huge problem in this country but people refuse to ackno_ledge it |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I’ve experienced it every_here, not just at football grounds. I should explain for context that I’m mixed race: _hite/Asian.
It’s a mob mentality and, bafflingly, I genuinely think some people don’t kno_ _hat they’re saying _hen they say something.
Example, I _as at a cricket game and a chap beside me shouted “oh come on you useless pa*ki idiot.” To _hich I questioned it and he said ‘oh _ell, obviously not you mate, that one do_n there.’
He didn’t see ho_ _hat he did say could seem to be offensive to more than one person or _ho _as around him, or indeed _hat he _as saying.
I’m not even mixed race Pakistani but Indian! Even more offensive!  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Personally I don’t think it’s just at football, unfortunately I think football reflects _hat is happening in society, ho_ever due to alcohol and group mentality suppressed feelings can surface. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Because a certain proportion of the general population are ignorant cunts. By extrapolation, a certain proportion of the football _atching population are ignorant cunts. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Because some people have the intelligence of a rock.
It’s not exclusive to just football though. I remember being young in the golf club and hearing all sorts of rubbish about tiger _oods. Racist slurs largely coming from middle class older “gentlemen” |
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I think it's tribalism.Football encourages narro_ minded affiliations and I think this transfers to the terraces _here someone of a different colour is considered t_ice the enemy,once on account of a different colour kit,t_ice on the different skin colour
Do football fans racially abuse their o_n teams players? Of course not |
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"I think it's tribalism.Football encourages narro_ minded affiliations and I think this transfers to the terraces _here someone of a different colour is considered t_ice the enemy,once on account of a different colour kit,t_ice on the different skin colour
Do football fans racially abuse their o_n teams players? Of course not "
yes John Barnes got it from the England fans (so called) |
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"Personally I don’t think it’s just at football, unfortunately I think football reflects _hat is happening in society, ho_ever due to alcohol and group mentality suppressed feelings can surface. "
This. I bet a lot of people _ho make monkey chants at sportsmen _ho are brilliant at _hat they do, actually turn up to _ork on a Monday morning and have no shame in _hat they have vindicated only a fe_ hours earlier. |
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By *ikeC81Man
over a year ago
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Can I say I guess this post is in respect to the disgusting actions of one person
I am in late 30s and have travelled around England and Europe
Maybe 10 to 15 years ago I heard racist comments at England but at united home and a_ay it doesn’t matter if your _hite black Asian, gay or straight you support united
England a_ay is not perfect and you still hear comments that you think OMG
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By *reya73Woman
over a year ago
Whitley Bay |
"Its a great sport _ith so much positive influence so _hy do folks still sho_ racism to footballers at the games?
Its a sad thing to see. Its an inclusive sport and brings people together _orld_ide so _here the heck does the racist element come in? "
Because _e still live in a racist society, no matter ho_ much _e _ant to pretend it doesn't exist anymore .. it does.
Football includes a huge cross section of society so ...
Sadly yes. My son is a footballer, my son is black.. even at 14 years he has encountered racist abuse on the pitch (not from the cro_d, from the opposition)!! Saddening and enlightening. It very much exists |
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I _as at a football match recently _here a large section of the a_ay fans shouted
"You dirty Scottish bastard" at one of our players.
Nobody batted an eyelid. Nothing about it in the post match media reports.
Some people think it's fine to shout stuff like that as long as they're not referencing skin colour.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I _as at a football match recently _here a large section of the a_ay fans shouted
"You dirty Scottish bastard" at one of our players.
Nobody batted an eyelid. Nothing about it in the post match media reports.
Some people think it's fine to shout stuff like that as long as they're not referencing skin colour.
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Go to _atch Celtic .. _hat they chant about .. Lee Rigby..England..Protestants.. vile hatred... |
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"I _as at a football match recently _here a large section of the a_ay fans shouted
"You dirty Scottish bastard" at one of our players.
Nobody batted an eyelid. Nothing about it in the post match media reports.
Some people think it's fine to shout stuff like that as long as they're not referencing skin colour.
Go to _atch Celtic .. _hat they chant about .. Lee Rigby..England..Protestants.. vile hatred... "
they sang about lee rigby in a pre season game against Sunderland disgusting behaviour |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I _as at a football match recently _here a large section of the a_ay fans shouted
"You dirty Scottish bastard" at one of our players.
Nobody batted an eyelid. Nothing about it in the post match media reports.
Some people think it's fine to shout stuff like that as long as they're not referencing skin colour.
Go to _atch Celtic .. _hat they chant about .. Lee Rigby..England..Protestants.. vile hatred... they sang about lee rigby in a pre season game against Sunderland disgusting behaviour "
And it's not just the lads...it's grandads _ith their grandkids..mums.. all joining in... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Personally I don’t think it’s just at football, unfortunately I think football reflects _hat is happening in society, ho_ever due to alcohol and group mentality suppressed feelings can surface.
This. I bet a lot of people _ho make monkey chants at sportsmen _ho are brilliant at _hat they do, actually turn up to _ork on a Monday morning and have no shame in _hat they have vindicated only a fe_ hours earlier. "
I don’t think they realise _hat they are doing half the time due to their small brain not been engaged |
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"Because most people are racist.
Correct
Across all races/countries "
Do you t_o really believe this?
And I'm guessing here.....just guessing....that both of you aren't part of "most people" you refferred to? |
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By *hMyGa_dCouple
over a year ago
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Yes _e'd say most people are racist in our experience. To some degree. This is evidenced accross the board in society, for example studies into people _ith "_hite" names applying for jobs vs people _ith "non-_hite" names. And many other studies in many areas.
Some people may not realise the majority are racist, because not many people openly admit to it.
A good analogy is admitting to voting Tory. Ho_ many people on Facebook do you see _ith "I'm voting Labour" on their profile pictures vs "I'm voting Tory". Zero Tory I'm guessing. Because people are shy about it, yet it's the majority position. |
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"Yes _e'd say most people are racist in our experience. To some degree. This is evidenced accross the board in society, for example studies into people _ith "_hite" names applying for jobs vs people _ith "non-_hite" names. And many other studies in many areas.
Some people may not realise the majority are racist, because not many people openly admit to it.
A good analogy is admitting to voting Tory. Ho_ many people on Facebook do you see _ith "I'm voting Labour" on their profile pictures vs "I'm voting Tory". Zero Tory I'm guessing. Because people are shy about it, yet it's the majority position."
So the majority of people are closet racists?
Again I'm betting you are one of the exceptions  |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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"Its a great sport _ith so much positive influence so _hy do folks still sho_ racism to footballers at the games?
Its a sad thing to see. Its an inclusive sport and brings people together _orld_ide so _here the heck does the racist element come in?
Because _e still live in a racist society, no matter ho_ much _e _ant to pretend it doesn't exist anymore .. it does.
Football includes a huge cross section of society so ...
Sadly yes. My son is a footballer, my son is black.. even at 14 years he has encountered racist abuse on the pitch (not from the cro_d, from the opposition)!! Saddening and enlightening. It very much exists "
We _ere _atching our 15 year old grandson at football last _eek and the Dads _ere giving their advice to their sons. A young black boy from the opposing team, came over and called the Dads f****** schmucks. The ref sent him off and the coach reprimanded him. Respect should _ork both _ays. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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As people above have said its a reflection of society....
Just look at some of the arguments for brexit.
Its dangerous to _rite these people off as thick or ignorent though as they are neither, they understand exactly _hat they think |
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People get frustrated in football as in life and take their frustration out on outers by abusing them in many _ays. Racial abuse gets pointed out most so that's _hy _e read about it but its not the only abuse that goes on by the small minded knuckle draggers. |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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"People get frustrated in football as in life and take their frustration out on outers by abusing them in many _ays. Racial abuse gets pointed out most so that's _hy _e read about it but its not the only abuse that goes on by the small minded knuckle draggers. "
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By *rishman75Man
over a year ago
Chessington/epsom |
"I _as at a football match recently _here a large section of the a_ay fans shouted
"You dirty Scottish bastard" at one of our players.
Nobody batted an eyelid. Nothing about it in the post match media reports.
Some people think it's fine to shout stuff like that as long as they're not referencing skin colour.
Go to _atch Celtic .. _hat they chant about .. Lee Rigby..England..Protestants.. vile hatred... "
rangers say kill the Pope and Catholics are peodos as _ell !! they are no saints either !! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I _as at a football match recently _here a large section of the a_ay fans shouted
"You dirty Scottish bastard" at one of our players.
Nobody batted an eyelid. Nothing about it in the post match media reports.
Some people think it's fine to shout stuff like that as long as they're not referencing skin colour.
Go to _atch Celtic .. _hat they chant about .. Lee Rigby..England..Protestants.. vile hatred...
rangers say kill the Pope and Catholics are peodos as _ell !! they are no saints either !!"
Its that _hataboutery attitude that allo_s this shit to thrive at football games. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Unfortunately racism is still every _here.. it's not as bad in uk football as it _as years ago, due to cctv, more ste_ards, fines, bans..but still a long, long _ay to go...then go abroad ...Spain, Italy, old eastern block countries, terrible.
Formula one...the abuse le_is Hamilton gets in spain...unreal |
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By *rishman75Man
over a year ago
Chessington/epsom |
stop serving alcohol and start the derbies at 11am and that _ould help a _ee bit but I dont think it's going to change unless to start giving out prison sentences or massive fines or taking points off teams and that might change their attitude. |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"Unfortunately racism is still every _here.. it's not as bad in uk football as it _as years ago, due to cctv, more ste_ards, fines, bans..but still a long, long _ay to go...then go abroad ...Spain, Italy, old eastern block countries, terrible.
Formula one...the abuse le_is Hamilton gets in spain...unreal"
Disgraceful isn't it? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It's al_ays been there. The racist fuckheads are just more upfront about it no_ that our politicians are openly endorsing it.
You can't deploy vans around the streets of London bearing the legend "IMMIGRANTS GO HOME" in massive block capitals and expect the xenophobic cretins _ho've been barely suppressing their gobshitery not to feel emboldened by your tacit approval. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"And sexism, _hy they allo_ it in football totally baffles me _hen it's not tolerated in other sports! "
sexism in football _hat do they shout _e don't like your shorts or you hair looks shite in the morning |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"stop serving alcohol and start the derbies at 11am and that _ould help a _ee bit but I dont think it's going to change unless to start giving out prison sentences or massive fines or taking points off teams and that might change their attitude. "
They've done fines and points and I think over the years quite a fe_ sent to prison...the sectarian thing is so deep I'm not sure it _ill ever die out ( sad fact)...but yeah 11 kick off _ould definitely help... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"stop serving alcohol and start the derbies at 11am and that _ould help a _ee bit but I dont think it's going to change unless to start giving out prison sentences or massive fines or taking points off teams and that might change their attitude.
They've done fines and points and I think over the years quite a fe_ sent to prison...the sectarian thing is so deep I'm not sure it _ill ever die out ( sad fact)...but yeah 11 kick off _ould definitely help..."
Alcohol is also banned from football grounds and during contentious matches local pubs are closed. The police keep supporters apart etc.
Personally think the 11am kick off a really good idea |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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I'd like to see the "strict liability" rule adopted.
Whenever fans of a club step out of line, the club itself is sanctioned - harder and harder, until they get a grip of _hatever poison is infecting a part of their ground.
Too many just go "tut, tut".
They'd buck up their idea at the thought of their ground being closed for 3 _eeks, or _hatever.
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"Its a great sport _ith so much positive influence so _hy do folks still sho_ racism to footballers at the games?
Its a sad thing to see. Its an inclusive sport and brings people together _orld_ide so _here the heck does the racist element come in? "
Because, sadly it is still at large in society. It is not solely a football problem but it is very visible there. |
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Those guilty of hurling racist slurs aren't necessarily racist, they just _ant to insult in any _ay that they can.
If the player _asn't black they hurl abuse about something else e.g. gender, age, body size, specs........
They are just really THICK and NASTY types. |
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"I'd like to see the "strict liability" rule adopted.
Whenever fans of a club step out of line, the club itself is sanctioned - harder and harder, until they get a grip of _hatever poison is infecting a part of their ground.
Too many just go "tut, tut".
They'd buck up their idea at the thought of their ground being closed for 3 _eeks, or _hatever.
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No. Wouldn't _ork for me.
Let's say FAB apply that rule. I'm a goody t_o shoes and you shout CUNT so FAB gets closed do_n for three _eeks ? Id rather the guilty get caught and shot. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Its a great sport _ith so much positive influence so _hy do folks still sho_ racism to footballers at the games?
Its a sad thing to see. Its an inclusive sport and brings people together _orld_ide so _here the heck does the racist element come in? "
Not just football, It is there on fabs too. In plain sight.
Something as pleasurable as this is tainted too. People label it in varied _ays but I guess deep do_n every one kno_s. When it comes to people, I'd rather be colour blind. |
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"Yes _e'd say most people are racist in our experience. To some degree. This is evidenced accross the board in society, for example studies into people _ith "_hite" names applying for jobs vs people _ith "non-_hite" names. And many other studies in many areas.
Some people may not realise the majority are racist, because not many people openly admit to it.
A good analogy is admitting to voting Tory. Ho_ many people on Facebook do you see _ith "I'm voting Labour" on their profile pictures vs "I'm voting Tory". Zero Tory I'm guessing. Because people are shy about it, yet it's the majority position."
If your reasoning / logic _as in a sack, the sack _ouldn't stand up.
It's no good saying , 'you guess a zero' and then arguing it's the majority position.
I guess i'm the most beautiful _oman on here. |
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"It's al_ays been there. The racist fuckheads are just more upfront about it no_ that our politicians are openly endorsing it.
You can't deploy vans around the streets of London bearing the legend "IMMIGRANTS GO HOME" in massive block capitals and expect the xenophobic cretins _ho've been barely suppressing their gobshitery not to feel emboldened by your tacit approval."
Which politicians are openly endorsing racism? I'm disgusted if any are |
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"I'd like to see the "strict liability" rule adopted.
Whenever fans of a club step out of line, the club itself is sanctioned - harder and harder, until they get a grip of _hatever poison is infecting a part of their ground.
Too many just go "tut, tut".
They'd buck up their idea at the thought of their ground being closed for 3 _eeks, or _hatever.
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This might be an idea, although in a big money sport like football, it has the potential to mean that creating problems in the stadiums of enemy/rival teams could be a _ay to get an advantage.
Making those responsible accountable seems the best choice but difficult to enfore |
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"It's al_ays been there. The racist fuckheads are just more upfront about it no_ that our politicians are openly endorsing it.
You can't deploy vans around the streets of London bearing the legend "IMMIGRANTS GO HOME" in massive block capitals and expect the xenophobic cretins _ho've been barely suppressing their gobshitery not to feel emboldened by your tacit approval.
Which politicians are openly endorsing racism? I'm disgusted if any are"
Non other that our Prime Minister Boris Johnson. If he can chat shit about immugrants calling them _atermelon mouthed picaninnies, letterboxes etc eic; then the _hole racist mob feel emboldened. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Those guilty of hurling racist slurs aren't necessarily racist, they just _ant to insult in any _ay that they can.
If the player _asn't black they hurl abuse about something else e.g. gender, age, body size, specs........
They are just really THICK and NASTY types. "
exactly this. They look for the obvious slur.
They attend football matches, in a tribal format, _here they feel they belong to something.
I imagine that _hilst they come from everyday society, they cant behave that _ay _ithout being challenged?
Punish football clubs? It _ont _ork, and it's out of their control. |
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"It's al_ays been there. The racist fuckheads are just more upfront about it no_ that our politicians are openly endorsing it.
You can't deploy vans around the streets of London bearing the legend "IMMIGRANTS GO HOME" in massive block capitals and expect the xenophobic cretins _ho've been barely suppressing their gobshitery not to feel emboldened by your tacit approval.
Which politicians are openly endorsing racism? I'm disgusted if any are
Non other that our Prime Minister Boris Johnson. If he can chat shit about immugrants calling them _atermelon mouthed picaninnies, letterboxes etc eic; then the _hole racist mob feel emboldened. "
Whilst certainly inappropriate, I don't think those comments exactly endorse racism.
You said politicians, _ere there any other examples of other politicians endorsing racism?
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The problem is the mob style atmosphere and tribal attitudes fans have to_ards their o_n team , at football people pay their money and often these type of people have to much to drink , the passion from the game over_helms them and they end uo acting like animals.
No_ not all football fans should be tared _ith the same brush as its is a small amount that ruin it for the rest.
Their is zero tolerance in society for any form of discrimination and esspecially not in a football ground _here i tske my little daughter and hsvr to listen to people hurling abuse at everyone and their mothers
Life time ban for anyone caught in my opinion mo second chance its the 21st century their is no excuses. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It's al_ays been there. The racist fuckheads are just more upfront about it no_ that our politicians are openly endorsing it.
You can't deploy vans around the streets of London bearing the legend "IMMIGRANTS GO HOME" in massive block capitals and expect the xenophobic cretins _ho've been barely suppressing their gobshitery not to feel emboldened by your tacit approval.
Which politicians are openly endorsing racism? I'm disgusted if any are
Non other that our Prime Minister Boris Johnson. If he can chat shit about immugrants calling them _atermelon mouthed picaninnies, letterboxes etc eic; then the _hole racist mob feel emboldened.
Whilst certainly inappropriate, I don't think those comments exactly endorse racism.
You said politicians, _ere there any other examples of other politicians endorsing racism?
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Primarily our glorious leader, Mr Alexander Boris De Pfeffel Johnson. Where to start, really? Muslim _omen looking like bank robbers and/or letterboxes? Flag-_aving picaninnies? Africans _ith _atermelon smiles? Female Malaysian students are only coming here to find men to marry? I could go on... |
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"It's al_ays been there. The racist fuckheads are just more upfront about it no_ that our politicians are openly endorsing it.
You can't deploy vans around the streets of London bearing the legend "IMMIGRANTS GO HOME" in massive block capitals and expect the xenophobic cretins _ho've been barely suppressing their gobshitery not to feel emboldened by your tacit approval.
Which politicians are openly endorsing racism? I'm disgusted if any are
Non other that our Prime Minister Boris Johnson. If he can chat shit about immugrants calling them _atermelon mouthed picaninnies, letterboxes etc eic; then the _hole racist mob feel emboldened.
Whilst certainly inappropriate, I don't think those comments exactly endorse racism.
You said politicians, _ere there any other examples of other politicians endorsing racism?
Primarily our glorious leader, Mr Alexander Boris De Pfeffel Johnson. Where to start, really? Muslim _omen looking like bank robbers and/or letterboxes? Flag-_aving picaninnies? Africans _ith _atermelon smiles? Female Malaysian students are only coming here to find men to marry? I could go on..."
When you say "primarily" ....are there any others?
And these are bad comments no doubt, but to class them as "endorsing racism" seems a bit much. |
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The _aters are getting muddy. Religion, for example, is not the same as race as it is an ideology. It is ok to challenge any ideological claim - especially those based on faith. By aligning race or ethnicity _ith politics or ideology those _ith axes to grind seek to avoid scrutiny.
That doesn't make it right to deny people equal rights because they don't agree _ith us. It is _orrying, though, that privileges are claimed on ideolgical grounds.
There is a distinction bet_een _hat _e do not choose to be (eg our sex, height or colour) and _hat _e do choose (our politics, ideology and beliefs). It's _rong to call people out for _hat they are by nature but _hat they choose to be may be questioned. Politely. The zealots have an ans_er for this it is not a choice but their destiny. Which is a claim they _ould have to justify. |
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"Unfortunately its "racism in football" it's just racism.
People are racist every_here it just gets amplified in football that's all.
People get d*unk and loud and let out the feelings they usually keep hidden.
Racism is a huge problem in this country but people refuse to ackno_ledge it "
Football fans are a reflection of the society from _hich they are dra_n, like any group. |
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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago
Dudley |
"Its a great sport _ith so much positive influence so _hy do folks still sho_ racism to footballers at the games?
Its a sad thing to see. Its an inclusive sport and brings people together _orld_ide so _here the heck does the racist element come in? "
Because some people are dickheads. |
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By *isaB45Woman
over a year ago
Fabville |
"Its a great sport _ith so much positive influence so _hy do folks still sho_ racism to footballers at the games?
Its a sad thing to see. Its an inclusive sport and brings people together _orld_ide so _here the heck does the racist element come in?
Because some people are dickheads."
Just about sums it up...  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It's al_ays been there. The racist fuckheads are just more upfront about it no_ that our politicians are openly endorsing it.
You can't deploy vans around the streets of London bearing the legend "IMMIGRANTS GO HOME" in massive block capitals and expect the xenophobic cretins _ho've been barely suppressing their gobshitery not to feel emboldened by your tacit approval.
Which politicians are openly endorsing racism? I'm disgusted if any are
Non other that our Prime Minister Boris Johnson. If he can chat shit about immugrants calling them _atermelon mouthed picaninnies, letterboxes etc eic; then the _hole racist mob feel emboldened.
Whilst certainly inappropriate, I don't think those comments exactly endorse racism.
You said politicians, _ere there any other examples of other politicians endorsing racism?
Primarily our glorious leader, Mr Alexander Boris De Pfeffel Johnson. Where to start, really? Muslim _omen looking like bank robbers and/or letterboxes? Flag-_aving picaninnies? Africans _ith _atermelon smiles? Female Malaysian students are only coming here to find men to marry? I could go on...
When you say "primarily" ....are there any others?
And these are bad comments no doubt, but to class them as "endorsing racism" seems a bit much. "
Farage? That guy's a racism goldmine. The list is endless.
Theresa May's "Hostile Environment" and the _hole Windrush debacle.
Amber Rudd's massively xenophobic 2016 conference speech. That made the ne_s for being a little bit Hitler-y.
Nadine Dorries has a track record of repeatedly saying some pretty racist things about her o_n colleagues, including Chukka Umunna, Yasmin Alibhai-Bro_n and Sadiq Khan. Then there _as the time she couldn't tell the difference bet_een Ash Sarkar and Faiza Shaheen.
That Pat Mountain dickhead _ho just last _eek tried to defend UKIP from claims of racism by saying they had one member _ho _as a bit bro_n, but she couldn't remember _hat type. Maybe Indian. Amazing.
In any case, I'm derailing the ostensibly football-based thread, so I'm going to stop no_. My point being, if our politicians are all over TV, radio and the papers saying this stuff it legitimises it. If they can speak like this _ith impunity, _hy can't some beered-up knobhead on the terraces? It needs dealing _ith from the top do_n. |
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Many many years ago I played in a team _ith a very talented young man
When he got abused he used to say up yours and _ent to to be man of the match just to upset the idiots even more |
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It's societal, nothing unique to football. Sadly morons _ith their _arped vie_s _ill engage in spe_ing their vie_s on terraces, in pubs and any_here _here they'll get a reaction.
I have _orked in football and kno_ the lengths the clubs go to, to eradicate these idiots but there's al_ays another one _ho can't control themself that _ill come to notice in the future. |
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"Can I say I guess this post is in respect to the disgusting actions of one person
I am in late 30s and have travelled around England and Europe
Maybe 10 to 15 years ago I heard racist comments at England but at united home and a_ay it doesn’t matter if your _hite black Asian, gay or straight you support united
England a_ay is not perfect and you still hear comments that you think OMG
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You see that racist United fan filmed on the tram yesterday? Some of the things he had to say disgusting. |
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"Its a great sport _ith so much positive influence so _hy do folks still sho_ racism to footballers at the games?
Its a sad thing to see. Its an inclusive sport and brings people together _orld_ide so _here the heck does the racist element come in? "
It has to come do_n to education and a reflection on general society today. So shameful. Social media has certainly not helped and the _ide appeal that football has means that a lot of poorly educated (I’m referring to life education, history and kno_ing _hat is right and _rong) people attend games and comment on the sport.
John Barnes makes some pretty interesting commentary on this. |
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It comes do_n to learnt behaviour pass do_n by there parents, peers,guardians ,friends etc....you're not born a racist its pushed on them at a young age to think it's normal _hen it's not normal.
Doesn't help _hen the tit of a PM comes out _ith racist comments all the time as if it's the norm |
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"Just look at the real reason for Brexit
Racism
The uk as a _hole is sadly filled _ith racists and xenophobia
And having travelled every inch of it _ith _ork I’ve seen it at its _orst
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Does anyone believe that every person _ho voted for Brexit is a racist ? |
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By *ee04Man
over a year ago
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The problem is not just football it’s society football is a reflection of society. I kno_ this has been said by many more on this thread.
But take a close look at football and of all the players passed and present there has only ever been one _ho came out as a gay man, this cannot be right. Ho_ever they are scared due to the ferocity in football and this stems from the culture of the 70s, 80s and probably earlier.
Where most of society has moved on football has dug its heels in.
I fear _ith the rise of nationalism through the likes of Trump, Farage, Johnson it is only going to get _orse.
It doesn’t matter the colour of someone’s skin, _ho they choose to sleep _ith it’s ho_ they play the game that should count.
I used to be proud of being English and proud of my country as _e seemed to be moving to_ards a more tolerant society, ho_ever of late I fear _e _ill go back_ards. When the prime minster thinks it’s ok to compare people to letter boxes because of the choices. Call people tank top _earing bum boys it’s a sad day.
If I said any of those things in my professional life I’d be rightly sacked, ho_ever he is applauded by sections of the country.
I’ll stop ranting no_ as I have gone completely a_ay from the OP. |
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Because there are a lot of cunts about _ho are small minded over gro_n men kicking a ball around.
It's just a game of football ffs but some people go on about it as if it's life and death. |
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I think this is because people are taught to hate. They are taught to be racist. When people are born they are not racist.
Everyone is born _ith the same colour blood. It’s the shame some people values are not the same and people are taught to hate and be racist.
Shame it still exists |
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It’s slo_ly getting better as younger more open generation are becoming the majority at matches.In the 70s 80s it _as accepted and hats off to the black players _ho paved the _ay for the ne_ generation of players Cyril Regis Laurie Cunningham etc sadly both dead no_. |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Its a great sport _ith so much positive influence so _hy do folks still sho_ racism to footballers at the games?
Its a sad thing to see. Its an inclusive sport and brings people together _orld_ide so _here the heck does the racist element come in? "
Because it is every_here it is part of society and human nature |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
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"Just look at the real reason for Brexit
Racism
The uk as a _hole is sadly filled _ith racists and xenophobia
And having travelled every inch of it _ith _ork I’ve seen it at its _orst
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Bollocks your so very ignorant |
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Racism is alive and _ell, in every _alk of life.
Morals, manners, empathy, education, cultural a_areness, kindness, humanity are all dying out.
It's the most popular sport on the planet, run by a corrupt governing body that cares little for the sport, its players, or its fans.
Overpaid boys and young men _ho kno_ little of life other than football and a male dominated environment _ith all the posturing and posing that comes _ith it. Lashing out _ith hurt egos?
Passionate fans? Heat of the moment? Or cold and calculated? Is one _orse than the other?
It's a cauldron _aiting to bubble over in a cro_d environment. |
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"Racism is alive and _ell, in every _alk of life.
Morals, manners, empathy, education, cultural a_areness, kindness, humanity are all dying out.
It's the most popular sport on the planet, run by a corrupt governing body that cares little for the sport, its players, or its fans.
Overpaid boys and young men _ho kno_ little of life other than football and a male dominated environment _ith all the posturing and posing that comes _ith it. Lashing out _ith hurt egos?
Passionate fans? Heat of the moment? Or cold and calculated? Is one _orse than the other?
It's a cauldron _aiting to bubble over in a cro_d environment. "
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"Racism is alive and _ell, in every _alk of life.
Morals, manners, empathy, education, cultural a_areness, kindness, humanity are all dying out.
It's the most popular sport on the planet, run by a corrupt governing body that cares little for the sport, its players, or its fans.
Overpaid boys and young men _ho kno_ little of life other than football and a male dominated environment _ith all the posturing and posing that comes _ith it. Lashing out _ith hurt egos?
Passionate fans? Heat of the moment? Or cold and calculated? Is one _orse than the other?
It's a cauldron _aiting to bubble over in a cro_d environment. "
Nicely put
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"Racism is alive and _ell, in every _alk of life.
Morals, manners, empathy, education, cultural a_areness, kindness, humanity are all dying out.
It's the most popular sport on the planet, run by a corrupt governing body that cares little for the sport, its players, or its fans.
Overpaid boys and young men _ho kno_ little of life other than football and a male dominated environment _ith all the posturing and posing that comes _ith it. Lashing out _ith hurt egos?
Passionate fans? Heat of the moment? Or cold and calculated? Is one _orse than the other?
It's a cauldron _aiting to bubble over in a cro_d environment.
Nicely put
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Just _ent to my second proper match.
Reminded _hy I'm not really a fan.
T_o men in there mid 20s/early 30s s_earing and threatening t_o elderly couples. I'm sat next to one of the couples so I chip in and say to the gobbiest of the t_o cretins..
"OI! Wind your neck in, sho_ some respect and _atch your language, theres kids here".
To _hich I then got a load of abuse, offered out..
"I'm sat here _ith my son, gro_ up and sit do_n".
"If you don't like it, dont bring your kids to a football match ya t_at".
"My son and his team mates _ere invited in for free to be the mascots, no_ shut the fuck up before I pull your ears off".
(marshals intervene)
All because his team _ent do_n a goal... fucking football. People are more passionate about kicking a bag of air around a field, than they are about ho_ there country is being managed in their name |
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"Just _ent to my second proper match.
Reminded _hy I'm not really a fan.
T_o men in there mid 20s/early 30s s_earing and threatening t_o elderly couples. I'm sat next to one of the couples so I chip in and say to the gobbiest of the t_o cretins..
"OI! Wind your neck in, sho_ some respect and _atch your language, theres kids here".
To _hich I then got a load of abuse, offered out..
"I'm sat here _ith my son, gro_ up and sit do_n".
"If you don't like it, dont bring your kids to a football match ya t_at".
"My son and his team mates _ere invited in for free to be the mascots, no_ shut the fuck up before I pull your ears off".
(marshals intervene)
All because his team _ent do_n a goal... fucking football. People are more passionate about kicking a bag of air around a field, than they are about ho_ there country is being managed in their name "
football pussys make me laugh  all mouth |
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