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By *hechap OP Man
over a year ago
Derry |
Whos going to vote on 12th December?
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By *ustme1820Woman
over a year ago
Southcoast Gosport |
Of course. Why would anybody not vote. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Whos going to vote on 12th December?
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Not as many as those that voted in the referendum I would imagine |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'm undecided"
Vote for who's least worst Boris has it at the moment 
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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago
London |
"I'm undecided
Vote for who's least worst Boris has it at the moment
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Boris is least worst? You’re funny!  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I only registered because they were going to fine me |
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"I'm undecided
Vote for who's least worst Boris has it at the moment
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I don't respect either of them. I hate to give wither of them my vote |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Whos going to vote on 12th December?
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Me |
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Post vote.....cannot abide being jumped on at the community center by a candidate.... |
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"Post vote.....cannot abide being jumped on at the community center by a candidate...."
Lol tell them you've decided how you're voting and to leave you be. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'm undecided
Vote for who's least worst Boris has it at the moment
Boris is least worst? You’re funny! "
Let's put it this way when it's own members quietly would rather see 5 years Boris than 5 years JC its not a good endorsement |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Me. I'll have David Attenborough please. |
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By *SAchickWoman
over a year ago
Hillside desolate |
Yep, I'll be voting. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'd put an X in Jo Swinson's box.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Yes even though they all seem as bad as each other, a vote shouldn't be wasted |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'm undecided
Vote for who's least worst Boris has it at the moment
Boris is least worst? You’re funny!
Let's put it this way when it's own members quietly would rather see 5 years Boris than 5 years JC its not a good endorsement "
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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago
London |
"I'm undecided
Vote for who's least worst Boris has it at the moment
Boris is least worst? You’re funny!
Let's put it this way when it's own members quietly would rather see 5 years Boris than 5 years JC its not a good endorsement "
I wholeheartedly disagree with your opinion. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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No question about voting.
High stakes this time round. Don't think the vulnerable or support services can survive another conservative government.
My opinion as a socialist.
Other opinions are available ( though wrong)
X |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I won’t be, I’ve lost faith in the whole process and system unfortunately I just don’t believe any promises or statistics I’m told any more. I just can’t see the point and we’ll get what we’re given I believe.
Can’t believe it’s come to this. |
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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago
Scotland - Aberdeen |
Of course I am going to use the vote that has been given me! |
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Definitely going to vote, even though neither of the main parties are particularly worthy of my vote. Some are most definitely worse than others. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Most definitely voting |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Of course |
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By *rufinWoman
over a year ago
notts |
Definitely voting
Luckily my labour candidate is a good person so I can vote for them - it's the person in your constituency you vote for, not the leader
Having said that, if it was a choice between Alexander De Pfeffel Johnson (or his 'cuddly rogue persona of 'Boris') or Corbyn, I would have to choose Corbyn. Anyone who has actually met Al seems to think he is a lying bullying narcissist. What a choice though.
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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago
Travelling |
"I won’t be, I’ve lost faith in the whole process and system unfortunately I just don’t believe any promises or statistics I’m told any more. I just can’t see the point and we’ll get what we’re given I believe.
Can’t believe it’s come to this."
This is partially what I'm torn on. Voting is important, it is. But it is a choice, not a requirement.
That is just fact. But when there is no trust with any mp, especially the ones that actually have power, and policies that you agree with are at conflict with policies you disagree with in the same party it becomes impossible to know who you should vote for. It becomes an impossible choice that will never sit right with you whichever you vote for, you will never be happy with the choice you made.
At that point people settle on a single thing to champion and focus on, forgetting about all the other shit that can and will go wrong. But they got that one single thing they wanted, doesn't matter that everything else is going to shit.
Very few people know the full extent of what they are voting for as things are made overly complex and mind games are used so much. Only a small % of people who vote will ever truely be highly informed fully of what their vote is going towards changing.
When votes are formed based on such low levels of processed information, it becomes disheartening and a jaded feeling. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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No, there isnt a party who I feel strong enough deserves my vote |
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"No, there isnt a party who I feel strong enough deserves my vote "
Is there a local independent option in your constituency? Maybe worth a look? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Of course. Why would anybody not vote. "
I cant, I've just moved house so not enough time to get on the electoral register  |
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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago
Travelling |
"No, there isnt a party who I feel strong enough deserves my vote
Is there a local independent option in your constituency? Maybe worth a look? "
This is the important part of voting which gets overlooked too. The focus is on the big names, when the little mps are what the vote is also for. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'm undecided
Vote for who's least worst Boris has it at the moment
Boris is least worst? You’re funny!
Let's put it this way when it's own members quietly would rather see 5 years Boris than 5 years JC its not a good endorsement
I wholeheartedly disagree with your opinion."
Entitled to disagree but it's not my opinion it is it is that of the people that were surveyed |
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"No, there isnt a party who I feel strong enough deserves my vote
Is there a local independent option in your constituency? Maybe worth a look?
This is the important part of voting which gets overlooked too. The focus is on the big names, when the little mps are what the vote is also for. "
Exactly your local MP represents their constituents. If they are a lazy bum who never turns up to vote, regardless of party should you be voting for them? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'll be voting.
For those unsure you can go on a website and pick which policies you agree with and it will tell you which party you most likely agree with.
voteforpolicies.org.uk |
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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago
London |
"I'm undecided
Vote for who's least worst Boris has it at the moment
Boris is least worst? You’re funny!
Let's put it this way when it's own members quietly would rather see 5 years Boris than 5 years JC its not a good endorsement
I wholeheartedly disagree with your opinion.
Entitled to disagree but it's not my opinion it is it is that of the people that were surveyed "
Yeah, yeah. |
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I've already voted! Postal vote.
Mrs TMN x |
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By *itty9899Man
over a year ago
Craggy Island |
"Whos going to vote on 12th December?
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Well, I hope everyone who's eligible. |
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I sure am, let's get the tory bastards out people |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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If you don’t vote don’t moan when it goes tits up  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Yes of course I’m voting |
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Definately voting.
My vote will ve based on the realy issues, not Brexit. Which is just a smoke screen. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'm undecided
Vote for who's least worst Boris has it at the moment
Boris is least worst? You’re funny!
Let's put it this way when it's own members quietly would rather see 5 years Boris than 5 years JC its not a good endorsement
I wholeheartedly disagree with your opinion.
Entitled to disagree but it's not my opinion it is it is that of the people that were surveyed
Yeah, yeah. "
Believe what you want to believe makes no difference to me I was simply reporting the situation as it is at the moment and via independent polls |
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Never missed voting on a General Election and I will again be visiting the ballot box. |
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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago
London |
"I'm undecided
Vote for who's least worst Boris has it at the moment
Boris is least worst? You’re funny!
Let's put it this way when it's own members quietly would rather see 5 years Boris than 5 years JC its not a good endorsement
I wholeheartedly disagree with your opinion.
Entitled to disagree but it's not my opinion it is it is that of the people that were surveyed
Yeah, yeah.
Believe what you want to believe makes no difference to me I was simply reporting the situation as it is at the moment and via independent polls"
Of course you were. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I posted my vote yesterday, so I already have.  |
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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago
Travelling |
"If you don’t vote don’t moan when it goes tits up "
Not quite how the blame game works. The only people who can't complain are those that voted for the ones who fucked up everything. Which we will never know until it happens, at which point who is to say the other parties would have done any better.
While I do still vote for now, I do it for what I believe in, not because I expect any change to be in the interests of the people.
I stand by what George Carlin said about voting, at least with regards to general elections.
"I don’t vote ’cause I believe if you vote, you have no right to complain. People like to twist that around. I know, they say, they say: “well if you don’t vote you have no right to complain”. But where’s the logic in that? If you vote, and you elect dishonest, incompetent people, and they get into office and screw everything up, well you are responsible for what they have done, YOU caused the problem, you voted them in, you have no right to complain. I on the other hand, who did not vote, WHO DID NOT VOTE. Who in fact did not even leave the house on election-day, am in no way responsible for what these people have done, and have every RIGHT to complain as loud as I want, about the mess YOU created, that I had nothing to do with." |
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By *os19Man
over a year ago
Edmonton |
I will be voting and I will be voting Labour I liked the way Jeremy came across when they had the 4 party leaders debate on the BBC about 2-3 Fridays ago. |
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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago
Travelling |
Thing is, those who vote for the "wrong" side will never admit they did such a thing and just continue to blame the other side. It's a silly game of back and forth that will only end in all of us getting fucked. |
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We are lucky to live in a democracy and everyone should exercise their right to vote. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'm undecided
Vote for who's least worst Boris has it at the moment
Boris is least worst? You’re funny!
Let's put it this way when it's own members quietly would rather see 5 years Boris than 5 years JC its not a good endorsement
I wholeheartedly disagree with your opinion.
Entitled to disagree but it's not my opinion it is it is that of the people that were surveyed
Yeah, yeah.
Believe what you want to believe makes no difference to me I was simply reporting the situation as it is at the moment and via independent polls
Of course you were. "
The fact that all the polls are saying that at the moment that cons are not in the lead and that and on course for a conservative majority. Lib dems are being squeezed and the the only hope for JC ultimately be a labour/SNP coalition maybe are all lies and all just conservative propaganda |
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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago
London |
"I'm undecided
Vote for who's least worst Boris has it at the moment
Boris is least worst? You’re funny!
Let's put it this way when it's own members quietly would rather see 5 years Boris than 5 years JC its not a good endorsement
I wholeheartedly disagree with your opinion.
Entitled to disagree but it's not my opinion it is it is that of the people that were surveyed
Yeah, yeah.
Believe what you want to believe makes no difference to me I was simply reporting the situation as it is at the moment and via independent polls
Of course you were.
The fact that all the polls are saying that at the moment that cons are not in the lead and that and on course for a conservative majority. Lib dems are being squeezed and the the only hope for JC ultimately be a labour/SNP coalition maybe are all lies and all just conservative propaganda "
Yes, I’m aware of your opinion. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'm undecided
Vote for who's least worst Boris has it at the moment
Boris is least worst? You’re funny!
Let's put it this way when it's own members quietly would rather see 5 years Boris than 5 years JC its not a good endorsement
I wholeheartedly disagree with your opinion.
Entitled to disagree but it's not my opinion it is it is that of the people that were surveyed
Yeah, yeah.
Believe what you want to believe makes no difference to me I was simply reporting the situation as it is at the moment and via independent polls
Of course you were.
The fact that all the polls are saying that at the moment that cons are not in the lead and that and on course for a conservative majority. Lib dems are being squeezed and the the only hope for JC ultimately be a labour/SNP coalition maybe are all lies and all just conservative propaganda
Yes, I’m aware of your opinion. "
I'm interested to know what opinion your aware of, cos I haven't given one other than a quip about least worst in this post |
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By *VineMan
over a year ago
The right place |
Yes, definitely |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Yes I am voting for the Brexit Party |
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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago
London |
"I'm undecided
Vote for who's least worst Boris has it at the moment
Boris is least worst? You’re funny!
Let's put it this way when it's own members quietly would rather see 5 years Boris than 5 years JC its not a good endorsement
I wholeheartedly disagree with your opinion.
Entitled to disagree but it's not my opinion it is it is that of the people that were surveyed
Yeah, yeah.
Believe what you want to believe makes no difference to me I was simply reporting the situation as it is at the moment and via independent polls
Of course you were.
The fact that all the polls are saying that at the moment that cons are not in the lead and that and on course for a conservative majority. Lib dems are being squeezed and the the only hope for JC ultimately be a labour/SNP coalition maybe are all lies and all just conservative propaganda
Yes, I’m aware of your opinion.
I'm interested to know what opinion your aware of, cos I haven't given one other than a quip about least worst in this post"
Exactly, your opinion. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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People should vote for the party and policies, not the person
Yes, I’ll be voting. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Yep |
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I certainly shall be, the choices are pretty dismal but I'll vote nonetheless, and it'll be how I want to, not how everyone on social media is trying to pressure others into voting |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'm undecided
Vote for who's least worst Boris has it at the moment
Boris is least worst? You’re funny!
Let's put it this way when it's own members quietly would rather see 5 years Boris than 5 years JC its not a good endorsement
I wholeheartedly disagree with your opinion.
Entitled to disagree but it's not my opinion it is it is that of the people that were surveyed
Yeah, yeah.
Believe what you want to believe makes no difference to me I was simply reporting the situation as it is at the moment and via independent polls
Of course you were.
The fact that all the polls are saying that at the moment that cons are not in the lead and that and on course for a conservative majority. Lib dems are being squeezed and the the only hope for JC ultimately be a labour/SNP coalition maybe are all lies and all just conservative propaganda
Yes, I’m aware of your opinion.
I'm interested to know what opinion your aware of, cos I haven't given one other than a quip about least worst in this post
Exactly, your opinion. "
He is ahead in the polls fact not my opinion lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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yep ...if you don't vote then don't moan |
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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago
London |
"I'm undecided
Vote for who's least worst Boris has it at the moment
Boris is least worst? You’re funny!
Let's put it this way when it's own members quietly would rather see 5 years Boris than 5 years JC its not a good endorsement
I wholeheartedly disagree with your opinion.
Entitled to disagree but it's not my opinion it is it is that of the people that were surveyed
Yeah, yeah.
Believe what you want to believe makes no difference to me I was simply reporting the situation as it is at the moment and via independent polls
Of course you were.
The fact that all the polls are saying that at the moment that cons are not in the lead and that and on course for a conservative majority. Lib dems are being squeezed and the the only hope for JC ultimately be a labour/SNP coalition maybe are all lies and all just conservative propaganda
Yes, I’m aware of your opinion.
I'm interested to know what opinion your aware of, cos I haven't given one other than a quip about least worst in this post
Exactly, your opinion.
He is ahead in the polls fact not my opinion lol "
Oh my! Your quip! Your opinion. Blimey! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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All filled in, we’ve just got to post it |
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"People should vote for the party and policies, not the person
Yes, I’ll be voting. "
To an extent I’d agree - however - as I was discussing with a fellow forumite yesterday - the leader is almost as important as the party - particularly on the global stage - which will be vital whether we ‘get Brexit done’ or not!
Frankly I don’t think either of them are credible leaders and both would be a laughing stock globally!
I’ve voted for both parties in the past - but this time I’ll be placing my vote elsewhere! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Done already... |
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I haven’t had one of those voting cards they usually send out telling you where your local polling station is (it’s usually the village hall), so I presume I’m not on the register. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'm undecided
Vote for who's least worst Boris has it at the moment
Boris is least worst? You’re funny!
Let's put it this way when it's own members quietly would rather see 5 years Boris than 5 years JC its not a good endorsement
I wholeheartedly disagree with your opinion.
Entitled to disagree but it's not my opinion it is it is that of the people that were surveyed
Yeah, yeah.
Believe what you want to believe makes no difference to me I was simply reporting the situation as it is at the moment and via independent polls
Of course you were.
The fact that all the polls are saying that at the moment that cons are not in the lead and that and on course for a conservative majority. Lib dems are being squeezed and the the only hope for JC ultimately be a labour/SNP coalition maybe are all lies and all just conservative propaganda
Yes, I’m aware of your opinion.
I'm interested to know what opinion your aware of, cos I haven't given one other than a quip about least worst in this post
Exactly, your opinion.
He is ahead in the polls fact not my opinion lol
Oh my! Your quip! Your opinion. Blimey! "
Have a good day. |
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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago
London |
"I'm undecided
Vote for who's least worst Boris has it at the moment
Boris is least worst? You’re funny!
Let's put it this way when it's own members quietly would rather see 5 years Boris than 5 years JC its not a good endorsement
I wholeheartedly disagree with your opinion.
Entitled to disagree but it's not my opinion it is it is that of the people that were surveyed
Yeah, yeah.
Believe what you want to believe makes no difference to me I was simply reporting the situation as it is at the moment and via independent polls
Of course you were.
The fact that all the polls are saying that at the moment that cons are not in the lead and that and on course for a conservative majority. Lib dems are being squeezed and the the only hope for JC ultimately be a labour/SNP coalition maybe are all lies and all just conservative propaganda
Yes, I’m aware of your opinion.
I'm interested to know what opinion your aware of, cos I haven't given one other than a quip about least worst in this post
Exactly, your opinion.
He is ahead in the polls fact not my opinion lol
Oh my! Your quip! Your opinion. Blimey!
Have a good day. "
Thank you. You too. |
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By *hechap OP Man
over a year ago
Derry |
"If you don’t vote don’t moan when it goes tits up "
So do you allow the voters to moan when it goes tits up? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Yep |
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"Of course. Why would anybody not vote. "
Because it doesn't make any difference. Whoever gets voted in turn into money grabbing shysters who show utter contempt for the electorate.
If it made a difference it would be illegal. |
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"Whos going to vote on 12th December?
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Shame jeremy clarkeson isnt standing cuz he says it how it is |
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"I haven’t had one of those voting cards they usually send out telling you where your local polling station is (it’s usually the village hall), so I presume I’m not on the register. "
My voting card says "place your vote at Lord Darcy's rear entrance" |
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Absolutely 100% yes. Far too important not to |
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"Yes, I’ll be voting....
I’ve voted for both parties in the past - but this time I’ll be placing my vote elsewhere! "
I'm with you Peachy |
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By *AABMan
over a year ago
Not far |
I can’t, I’m away with work and missed the postal vote deadline. |
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I will be - but I really don't know who for yet !
both main alternatives are so bloody scary in different ways.
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yes im not voting for consevative and even less for labour. My vote will be elsewhere |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Of course.
The system is flawed and they're all complete shits who couldn't care less about the people we should all care most about.
But since I don't have access to a way of changing the system, I'll at least vote so I feel able to complain about the bunch of pricks.
Besides the last time people didn't bother to vote a bunch of jingoistic but motivated idiots threw our country into total chaos. |
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I'll be there at 6am, my vote will one of the first in the box
I'm working at the polling station til lunch time. |
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I'm seriously thinking of spoiling my paper in this election, for the first time ever
That'll learn the bastards! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Off course |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Hoping i will win ha |
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I'm away, so I've voted by post this time. |
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Me (Luke). Hannah is only eligible to vote in US elections. I haven't missed a UK General election yet. |
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By *hechap OP Man
over a year ago
Derry |
So most people are happy enough to vote for dishonest self serving politicans who will never keep their promise.
Its hard to believe people fall for this old trick and just keep repeating the same old thing election after election after election.
Its a pity that everyone who loves to vote would'nt have the backbone, balls or spine to vote these leeches OUT when they shite over you and dont keep their word.
Surely if you have the power to vote them IN to their lavish lifestyle you have the power to vote them OUT.
Thats right. You would'nt be allowed to do that. The corrupt masters would'nt allow the foolish slaves to take away their power and cut the money off them.
It might be different this time.
Haa ha as if!!
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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago
London |
"So most people are happy enough to vote for dishonest self serving politicans who will never keep their promise.
Its hard to believe people fall for this old trick and just keep repeating the same old thing election after election after election.
Its a pity that everyone who loves to vote would'nt have the backbone, balls or spine to vote these leeches OUT when they shite over you and dont keep their word.
Surely if you have the power to vote them IN to their lavish lifestyle you have the power to vote them OUT.
Thats right. You would'nt be allowed to do that. The corrupt masters would'nt allow the foolish slaves to take away their power and cut the money off them.
It might be different this time.
Haa ha as if!!
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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago
Hull |
I voted via Postal Voting last week. |
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By *hechap OP Man
over a year ago
Derry |
"So most people are happy enough to vote for dishonest self serving politicans who will never keep their promise.
Its hard to believe people fall for this old trick and just keep repeating the same old thing election after election after election.
Its a pity that everyone who loves to vote would'nt have the backbone, balls or spine to vote these leeches OUT when they shite over you and dont keep their word.
Surely if you have the power to vote them IN to their lavish lifestyle you have the power to vote them OUT.
Thats right. You would'nt be allowed to do that. The corrupt masters would'nt allow the foolish slaves to take away their power and cut the money off them.
It might be different this time.
Haa ha as if!!
You not voting then, OP? "
I cant vote due to having a guilty conscience.
It would kill me with guilt if i voted someone in and they did'nt keep their word.
At least when they let everyone down again my mind will be clear knowing i had no part in it.
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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago
London |
"So most people are happy enough to vote for dishonest self serving politicans who will never keep their promise.
Its hard to believe people fall for this old trick and just keep repeating the same old thing election after election after election.
Its a pity that everyone who loves to vote would'nt have the backbone, balls or spine to vote these leeches OUT when they shite over you and dont keep their word.
Surely if you have the power to vote them IN to their lavish lifestyle you have the power to vote them OUT.
Thats right. You would'nt be allowed to do that. The corrupt masters would'nt allow the foolish slaves to take away their power and cut the money off them.
It might be different this time.
Haa ha as if!!
You not voting then, OP?
I cant vote due to having a guilty conscience.
It would kill me with guilt if i voted someone in and they did'nt keep their word.
At least when they let everyone down again my mind will be clear knowing i had no part in it.
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Ahhh, backseat driver, I gotcha |
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By *hechap OP Man
over a year ago
Derry |
"So most people are happy enough to vote for dishonest self serving politicans who will never keep their promise.
Its hard to believe people fall for this old trick and just keep repeating the same old thing election after election after election.
Its a pity that everyone who loves to vote would'nt have the backbone, balls or spine to vote these leeches OUT when they shite over you and dont keep their word.
Surely if you have the power to vote them IN to their lavish lifestyle you have the power to vote them OUT.
Thats right. You would'nt be allowed to do that. The corrupt masters would'nt allow the foolish slaves to take away their power and cut the money off them.
It might be different this time.
Haa ha as if!!
You not voting then, OP?
I cant vote due to having a guilty conscience.
It would kill me with guilt if i voted someone in and they did'nt keep their word.
At least when they let everyone down again my mind will be clear knowing i had no part in it.
Ahhh, backseat driver, I gotcha "
Better in the backseat than asleep at the wheel.
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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago
London |
"So most people are happy enough to vote for dishonest self serving politicans who will never keep their promise.
Its hard to believe people fall for this old trick and just keep repeating the same old thing election after election after election.
Its a pity that everyone who loves to vote would'nt have the backbone, balls or spine to vote these leeches OUT when they shite over you and dont keep their word.
Surely if you have the power to vote them IN to their lavish lifestyle you have the power to vote them OUT.
Thats right. You would'nt be allowed to do that. The corrupt masters would'nt allow the foolish slaves to take away their power and cut the money off them.
It might be different this time.
Haa ha as if!!
You not voting then, OP?
I cant vote due to having a guilty conscience.
It would kill me with guilt if i voted someone in and they did'nt keep their word.
At least when they let everyone down again my mind will be clear knowing i had no part in it.
Ahhh, backseat driver, I gotcha
Better in the backseat than asleep at the wheel.
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By *hilloutMan
over a year ago
All over the place! Northwesr, , Southwest |
An interesting phenomenon. In virtually every western country it doesn't matter who the public votes for as policy is always decided against their best interests. It becomes very much like choosing between Coke and Pepsi. Become cynical enough, and you're left with the impression that democracy is a sham that gives the general public an illusion of choice, thereby subduing any large scale movements of revolt or revolution. Looked at from that angle, democracy becomes the most insidious form of governance and the perfect tool for controlling the masses employed by the real power brokers.
Just came home from a work do, drank too many red bull and am like a chihuahua on speed and feeling a tad philosophical |
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By *hechap OP Man
over a year ago
Derry |
"So most people are happy enough to vote for dishonest self serving politicans who will never keep their promise.
Its hard to believe people fall for this old trick and just keep repeating the same old thing election after election after election.
Its a pity that everyone who loves to vote would'nt have the backbone, balls or spine to vote these leeches OUT when they shite over you and dont keep their word.
Surely if you have the power to vote them IN to their lavish lifestyle you have the power to vote them OUT.
Thats right. You would'nt be allowed to do that. The corrupt masters would'nt allow the foolish slaves to take away their power and cut the money off them.
It might be different this time.
Haa ha as if!!
You not voting then, OP?
I cant vote due to having a guilty conscience.
It would kill me with guilt if i voted someone in and they did'nt keep their word.
At least when they let everyone down again my mind will be clear knowing i had no part in it.
Ahhh, backseat driver, I gotcha
Better in the backseat than asleep at the wheel.
Hush now; no vote, no say. "
Maybe i will see the error of my ways and run down to the polling station with my X, saying its christmas.
Then i can moan and complain about whoever i vote for until the next election... |
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I'm registered to vote.......... So vote I shall!!!
Really annoys me that people who registered to vote don't or spoil their vote, which in my opinion is even worse and they then have the audacity to complain about the people and parties that have been elected.
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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago
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"I'm registered to vote.......... So vote I shall!!!
Really annoys me that people who registered to vote don't or spoil their vote, which in my opinion is even worse and they then have the audacity to complain about the people and parties that have been elected.
This has been a partly political post by Bluewonder "
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Personally I think we should be like the 22 countries of the world where voting is compulsory, in Australia you are fined if you don’t vote ! |
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By *hechap OP Man
over a year ago
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"Personally I think we should be like the 22 countries of the world where voting is compulsory, in Australia you are fined if you don’t vote !"
Great idea. Make voting compulsory and take away their freedom of choice and at the same time collect some revenue..
Would you just give the money to the politicans who got the most votes or would you divide it out equally?? |
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Yes, definitely. The rot has got to stop somewhen, free broadband is just a bonus. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It doesnt matter who you vote for, the government always get in.
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"Yes, I’ll be voting....
I’ve voted for both parties in the past - but this time I’ll be placing my vote elsewhere!
I'm with you Peachy"
Sad isn’t it? First time I’ll have voted knowing that party won’t get a majority vote! Seems futile - but sadly necessary!  |
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"An interesting phenomenon. In virtually every western country it doesn't matter who the public votes for as policy is always decided against their best interests. It becomes very much like choosing between Coke and Pepsi. Become cynical enough, and you're left with the impression that democracy is a sham that gives the general public an illusion of choice, thereby subduing any large scale movements of revolt or revolution. Looked at from that angle, democracy becomes the most insidious form of governance and the perfect tool for controlling the masses employed by the real power brokers.
Just came home from a work do, drank too many red bull and am like a chihuahua on speed and feeling a tad philosophical "
Fascinating post - even before I noted the author! I hope you’re not right but I have a hunch you may be! Sad isn’t it? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I am and I am voting for labour |
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"I am and I am voting for labour "
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No.
All a bunch of self absorbed, egotistical, untrustworthy, out of touch fuckwits who have zero comprehension of the real world , let alone give a shit .
All a rabble of toffee nosed asslickers who in my opinion, can go and jump bollock naked into a pit of rusty razor blades .
Cunts . |
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"I'm undecided
Vote for who's least worst Boris has it at the moment
I don't respect either of them. I hate to give wither of them my vote"
You don't have to respect them you just have to vote for the person who will get you closer to the Britain you want. It's not voting for your next best friend. |
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After 9 years of failed austerity and a manifesto that promises to fix the things that they have broken from the tories?
It's time for a change, labour all the way for us |
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"No.
All a bunch of self absorbed, egotistical, untrustworthy, out of touch fuckwits who have zero comprehension of the real world , let alone give a shit .
All a rabble of toffee nosed asslickers who in my opinion, can go and jump bollock naked into a pit of rusty razor blades .
Cunts ."
So what's the alternative? One of them has to be in charge. If no one votes because of the reasons you state we'll end up with Boris by default. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Not sure im arsed there all so full of shit its like a kirby sales conference everytime they open there mouths |
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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago
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"Personally I think we should be like the 22 countries of the world where voting is compulsory, in Australia you are fined if you don’t vote !
Great idea. Make voting compulsory and take away their freedom of choice and at the same time collect some revenue..
Would you just give the money to the politicans who got the most votes or would you divide it out equally??"
Indeed, that is a terrible idea. Forcing people to vote, while yes you have a vote and it is important to use it. The very essence of a vote is choice and choosing not to vote is just as valid of a choice as voting.
The rules need changing, but not for the people. For the MPs and the bullshit they are allowed to shout about. There should be certain things that they should be held accountabile for, if they say one thing in their pre election campaign, they must follow through with it.
If they say NHS won't be privatised, and is not for sale. That shit needs to be held to. Certain things MPs should not be getting away with.
If they say freddos will be 10p again, and then don't follow through with that, I can let that slide. But full on straight up lies that play to the emotions of people, only to go back on a big promise should not be without consequence.
Slightly off topic but the NHS should be untouchable at this point. That should be one of the few things that MPs should NOT have the power to destroy so easily. It should be protected, and any attempt to do otherwise be blocked at all paths. Its not perfect and may need tweaking, but if people of this country truely knew the cost of being ill and what it can do to lives when you have to pay for treatment (just look at vet bills for an example) then they would be a bit more thoughtful in their choices and risks they take with it.
There are many reasons people don't vote - as is their right to choose what they do with that vote. Viewed as wasted or not.
At the end of the day, your vote truely means nothing in terms of what gets done. You can vote in to power whoever you like, but that is where the power of your vote ends, ultimately you have no say of what gets done once they are in power. |
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"No.
All a bunch of self absorbed, egotistical, untrustworthy, out of touch fuckwits who have zero comprehension of the real world , let alone give a shit .
All a rabble of toffee nosed asslickers who in my opinion, can go and jump bollock naked into a pit of rusty razor blades .
Cunts .
So what's the alternative? One of them has to be in charge. If no one votes because of the reasons you state we'll end up with Boris by default. "
I dont doubt it , I just cant bring myself to even give my hard earned time or even thoughts for any of them . |
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"No.
All a bunch of self absorbed, egotistical, untrustworthy, out of touch fuckwits who have zero comprehension of the real world , let alone give a shit .
All a rabble of toffee nosed asslickers who in my opinion, can go and jump bollock naked into a pit of rusty razor blades .
Cunts .
So what's the alternative? One of them has to be in charge. If no one votes because of the reasons you state we'll end up with Boris by default. I dont doubt it , I just cant bring myself to even give my hard earned time or even thoughts for any of them . "
Such a blinkered view. I just can't get my head around it. You'll moan and moan when things get worse yet aren't bothered enough to try and change things. Not saying this next government will fix everything but voting isn't about quick fixes it's about a journey. This election won't get us to the destination but it has the opportunity to being us closer. It's like one of those books you read as a kid where you had to decide at the end of each chapter where your character will go next.
I feel like attitudes like yours is the new try hard trendy 'don't give a fuck, aren't I cool' type of attitude. |
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over a year ago
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Come on Boris get us over the line |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"After 9 years of failed austerity and a manifesto that promises to fix the things that they have broken from the tories?
It's time for a change, labour all the way for us"
Yep 9 years of austerity cons forced on us and Spain, Greece, Italy...oh wait a minute that was the EU the very people who they want to stay in bed with. If the conservatives hadn't the EU would have.
Oh just for information some of the poorest constituencies were labour held constituencies under 12 years of labour government, they did nothing!!!! real heroes of people. Yes old enough to have lived through the misery of 12 years labour government and the previous labour government. When unemployment is the highest it will have been I decades, inflation will be the highest in decades all the poorest constituencies are even poorer. And none of promises are delivered and all you'll have is debts which will take decades of austerity to recover from and out children and grand children are paying the price for JC big unbelievable plan. Guess you can still blame conservatives or anyone else other than the ones who voted for him.
Before I get the retort from few in here, if by some miracle he does get in it won't be me who is paying the price I've done my time and contributed to labour governments who have wasted it. Good luck |
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over a year ago
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The trouble today is majority of people think they’re owed life / living and not prepared to get off their lazy arses and do a hard days graft, thus expect those who work and pay taxes to pay for them . Mr Corbyn = massive borrowing & get the country in even more debt but at least some people will be able to afford to sit and watch their brand new 80” TV smoking , drinking them selfs to death then take up valuable time in A&E all nicely paid for by who do you fecking think . (Walks out & slams door) |
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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago
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Opinions purporting as fact. Love it. |
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over a year ago
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Dare I saw Labour! Brought up Labour always will be Labour! |
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"I'm undecided
Vote for who's least worst Boris has it at the moment
I don't respect either of them. I hate to give wither of them my vote
You don't have to respect them you just have to vote for the person who will get you closer to the Britain you want. It's not voting for your next best friend. "
I've seen a lot recently, it's like public transport, not dating. Get on the bus closer to where you want to go, don't look for your soul mate.
I'll be holding my nose as I vote, I always do. It's the way it goes. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Opinions purporting as fact. Love it. "
Thats all politics is though.
There are no real facts, just assumption based on your particular interpretation of the situation.
"Confirmation bias is the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that affirms one's prior beliefs or hypotheses. It is a type of cognitive bias and a systematic error of inductive reasoning." |
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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago
London |
"Opinions purporting as fact. Love it.
Thats all politics is though.
There are no real facts, just assumption based on your particular interpretation of the situation.
"Confirmation bias is the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that affirms one's prior beliefs or hypotheses. It is a type of cognitive bias and a systematic error of inductive reasoning.""
Thanks for explaining my point back to me. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Whos going to vote on 12th December?
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I'm not. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Yes of course! |
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"Opinions purporting as fact. Love it.
Thats all politics is though.
There are no real facts, just assumption based on your particular interpretation of the situation.
"Confirmation bias is the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that affirms one's prior beliefs or hypotheses. It is a type of cognitive bias and a systematic error of inductive reasoning."
Thanks for explaining my point back to me. "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Opinions purporting as fact. Love it.
Thats all politics is though.
There are no real facts, just assumption based on your particular interpretation of the situation.
"Confirmation bias is the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that affirms one's prior beliefs or hypotheses. It is a type of cognitive bias and a systematic error of inductive reasoning."
Thanks for explaining my point back to me. "
My interpretation of your post was that it was a rebuttal of the accusations against JC rather that a statement about the whole of politics.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Women died, trampled under horses, so I could vote.
I’ll be voting for labour. The NHS is my priority and I am a dirty socialist. |
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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago
London |
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"Postal vote already sent in "
To PoF a week ago; 2019 Fab Male of the Year - GMF |
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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago
London |
"Opinions purporting as fact. Love it.
Thats all politics is though.
There are no real facts, just assumption based on your particular interpretation of the situation.
"Confirmation bias is the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that affirms one's prior beliefs or hypotheses. It is a type of cognitive bias and a systematic error of inductive reasoning."
Thanks for explaining my point back to me.
My interpretation of your post was that it was a rebuttal of the accusations against JC rather that a statement about the whole of politics.
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Well, that’s just assumption based on your particular interpretation of the situation. Good old confirmation bias. |
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"Postal vote already sent in "
Mine too. |
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Me. Though doesnt matter who gets in, the country is screwed! |
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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago
London |
"[Conservatives removed by poster at 07/12/19 14:14:23]"
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Opinions purporting as fact. Love it.
Thats all politics is though.
There are no real facts, just assumption based on your particular interpretation of the situation.
"Confirmation bias is the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that affirms one's prior beliefs or hypotheses. It is a type of cognitive bias and a systematic error of inductive reasoning."
Thanks for explaining my point back to me.
My interpretation of your post was that it was a rebuttal of the accusations against JC rather that a statement about the whole of politics.
Well, that’s just assumption based on your particular interpretation of the situation. Good old confirmation bias. "
Of course it is, thats my point... |
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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago
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"Opinions purporting as fact. Love it.
Thats all politics is though.
There are no real facts, just assumption based on your particular interpretation of the situation.
"Confirmation bias is the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that affirms one's prior beliefs or hypotheses. It is a type of cognitive bias and a systematic error of inductive reasoning."
Thanks for explaining my point back to me.
My interpretation of your post was that it was a rebuttal of the accusations against JC rather that a statement about the whole of politics.
Well, that’s just assumption based on your particular interpretation of the situation. Good old confirmation bias.
Of course it is, thats my point... "
Which I’d already made. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Opinions purporting as fact. Love it.
Thats all politics is though.
There are no real facts, just assumption based on your particular interpretation of the situation.
"Confirmation bias is the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that affirms one's prior beliefs or hypotheses. It is a type of cognitive bias and a systematic error of inductive reasoning."
Thanks for explaining my point back to me.
My interpretation of your post was that it was a rebuttal of the accusations against JC rather that a statement about the whole of politics.
Well, that’s just assumption based on your particular interpretation of the situation. Good old confirmation bias.
Of course it is, thats my point... "
Who can say whether i am right ir wrong though? |
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over a year ago
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Already done postal vote |
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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago
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"Opinions purporting as fact. Love it.
Thats all politics is though.
There are no real facts, just assumption based on your particular interpretation of the situation.
"Confirmation bias is the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that affirms one's prior beliefs or hypotheses. It is a type of cognitive bias and a systematic error of inductive reasoning."
Thanks for explaining my point back to me.
My interpretation of your post was that it was a rebuttal of the accusations against JC rather that a statement about the whole of politics.
Well, that’s just assumption based on your particular interpretation of the situation. Good old confirmation bias.
Of course it is, thats my point...
Who can say whether i am right ir wrong though? "
I can. And did, you just keep missing it, but I’m happy to repeat, |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Opinions purporting as fact. Love it.
Thats all politics is though.
There are no real facts, just assumption based on your particular interpretation of the situation.
"Confirmation bias is the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that affirms one's prior beliefs or hypotheses. It is a type of cognitive bias and a systematic error of inductive reasoning."
Thanks for explaining my point back to me.
My interpretation of your post was that it was a rebuttal of the accusations against JC rather that a statement about the whole of politics.
Well, that’s just assumption based on your particular interpretation of the situation. Good old confirmation bias.
Of course it is, thats my point...
Which I’d already made."
In your opinion |
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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago
London |
"Opinions purporting as fact. Love it.
Thats all politics is though.
There are no real facts, just assumption based on your particular interpretation of the situation.
"Confirmation bias is the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that affirms one's prior beliefs or hypotheses. It is a type of cognitive bias and a systematic error of inductive reasoning."
Thanks for explaining my point back to me.
My interpretation of your post was that it was a rebuttal of the accusations against JC rather that a statement about the whole of politics.
Well, that’s just assumption based on your particular interpretation of the situation. Good old confirmation bias.
Of course it is, thats my point...
Which I’d already made.
In your opinion"
Thank you. Yes, it was. And made chronologically ahead of you. |
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over a year ago
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I will definitely be voting. |
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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago
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Not us!
We have already posted our vote off  |
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One guy is a bumbling fool/ bigot/ idiot with his own agenda focused on his, and his friends own wealth. There's a woman with good tits , then there's a guy who counts people who support the genocide of Jews as personal friends, takes money from a state who want to see Israel destroyed, and attends social engagements with people who actively targeted women and children.
Vote Corbyn |
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I'll keep the faith, and I'll keep voting. Not for the iron fist, but for the helping hand. |
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I’m voting for the douche but not that douche or the other douche. But the douche. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Opinions purporting as fact. Love it.
Thats all politics is though.
There are no real facts, just assumption based on your particular interpretation of the situation.
"Confirmation bias is the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that affirms one's prior beliefs or hypotheses. It is a type of cognitive bias and a systematic error of inductive reasoning."
Thanks for explaining my point back to me.
My interpretation of your post was that it was a rebuttal of the accusations against JC rather that a statement about the whole of politics.
Well, that’s just assumption based on your particular interpretation of the situation. Good old confirmation bias.
Of course it is, thats my point...
Which I’d already made.
In your opinion
Thank you. Yes, it was. And made chronologically ahead of you."
Only you didnt make the point i did. You simply said "opinions purporting as fact"
In typical debate team style you are trying to retrospectively attribute intentions onto a empty statement.
I cant prove you arent tellng the truth but neither can you prove you are. And such is the issue with politics.
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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago
London |
"Opinions purporting as fact. Love it.
Thats all politics is though.
There are no real facts, just assumption based on your particular interpretation of the situation.
"Confirmation bias is the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that affirms one's prior beliefs or hypotheses. It is a type of cognitive bias and a systematic error of inductive reasoning."
Thanks for explaining my point back to me.
My interpretation of your post was that it was a rebuttal of the accusations against JC rather that a statement about the whole of politics.
Well, that’s just assumption based on your particular interpretation of the situation. Good old confirmation bias.
Of course it is, thats my point...
Which I’d already made.
In your opinion
Thank you. Yes, it was. And made chronologically ahead of you.
Only you didnt make the point i did. You simply said "opinions purporting as fact"
In typical debate team style you are trying to retrospectively attribute intentions onto a empty statement.
I cant prove you arent tellng the truth but neither can you prove you are. And such is the issue with politics.
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"Whos going to vote on 12th December?
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Postal vote already done and posted |
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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago
Travelling |
Giant douche vs a turd sandwich |
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Yes.
In fact I think it should be a legal requirement for all eligible adults to vote.
However, there should also be a box for "none of the above" rather than a person spoiling their paper and better ways for the less able to vote and understand what they are Actually voting for. |
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By *hilloutMan
over a year ago
All over the place! Northwesr, , Southwest |
The reality is this: both labour and the conservatives are responsible for the current mess the UK finds itself in. Labour under Blair was no different from the conservatives in that the assault on the middle class continued unabated and the levels of poverty and debt (both personal and national) continued to rise throughout. Again, re-enforces the notion that in the west it matters not who is elected as they all dance to the same tune, and that is not to the public well being in general. They may throw us an occasional bone to placate the masses and maintain a veneer of legitimacy of the democratic system, but that is all.
The big elephant in the room that is never addressed is the control of the money creation process. Why? It's firmly in the hands of the ones that truly control society and are the puppet masters behind the western democratic system, and by extent, the political parties. |
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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago
Travelling |
"Yes.
In fact I think it should be a legal requirement for all eligible adults to vote.
However, there should also be a box for "none of the above" rather than a person spoiling their paper and better ways for the less able to vote and understand what they are Actually voting for. "
Really? Forcing people to vote undermines the very nature of a vote in the first and what it stands for, and also very dangerous as a large number of people who don't vote, do so because they have no idea what they are voting for so don't bother. The fact that some people don't vote is a good thing - people who vote while being uninformed are dangerous. Why do you think politics is the dirtiest game in history, lie, cheat and use underhanded tactics to win because the less people know the better you can control their will. |
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People not voting keeps these nobs in power. Nobs on all sides. From student union bores, to those who think they have a birthright to govern. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"People not voting keeps these nobs in power. Nobs on all sides. From student union bores, to those who think they have a birthright to govern. "
Correction on spelling,knobs , must be labour |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Whos going to vote on 12th December?
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F@#k Yes, Yes!, Yes!!, YESsssss ..
(btw that was not a request or offer ) |
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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago
Dudley |
I'll be voting, still unsure who I will vote for. |
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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago
London |
"People not voting keeps these nobs in power. Nobs on all sides. From student union bores, to those who think they have a birthright to govern.
Correction on spelling,knobs , must be labour "
You might want to consult a dictionary for usage of the word nob. |
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"People not voting keeps these nobs in power. Nobs on all sides. From student union bores, to those who think they have a birthright to govern.
Correction on spelling,knobs , must be labour "
Thanks! every day's a school day. Nothing wrong with voting labour, i will do. But i do it in the full knowledge that Corbyn is a dangerous anti- establishment, terrorist sympathiser. Im not pretending otherwise. |
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"Yes.
In fact I think it should be a legal requirement for all eligible adults to vote.
However, there should also be a box for "none of the above" rather than a person spoiling their paper and better ways for the less able to vote and understand what they are Actually voting for.
Really? Forcing people to vote undermines the very nature of a vote in the first and what it stands for, and also very dangerous as a large number of people who don't vote, do so because they have no idea what they are voting for so don't bother. The fact that some people don't vote is a good thing - people who vote while being uninformed are dangerous. Why do you think politics is the dirtiest game in history, lie, cheat and use underhanded tactics to win because the less people know the better you can control their will. "
Read my post again... in particular the last sentance "better ways for the less able to vote and understand what they are Actually voting for"
I think very few people seem to possess critical thinking and the ability to figure out whether what they are being told can possibly be true or not. Social media especially.
This means that many of those who don't understand do vote and conversely many that do are disillusioned so may be less likely to.
But yes, I stand by my opinion that every should have to vote unless they lack mental capacity, or are otherwise unable or ineligible.
I am fully aware that it's probably not a popular opinion. |
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"People not voting keeps these nobs in power. Nobs on all sides. From student union bores, to those who think they have a birthright to govern.
Correction on spelling,knobs , must be labour
You might want to consult a dictionary for usage of the word nob."
shhh. |
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