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I have to agree, Bankers should not be paid more than nurses, footballers are again welll overpaid for what they ( Im not saying that they dont poses skills, athletic and is a job / hobby for many ) but they def get paid way too much for what they do! Just my opinion. Not to cause any problems.  | |||
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"Gd morning all
I have to agree, Bankers should not be paid more than nurses, footballers are again welll overpaid for what they ( Im not saying that they dont poses skills, athletic and is a job / hobby for many ) but they def get paid way too much for what they do! Just my opinion. Not to cause any problems. "so if you were a premier league footballer or a top level banker you would be happy to get less than a nurse? its obv something you can say as not working in that industry in them roles (i dont by the way) but if you make serious cash you want paying serious cash too, its only fair | |||
"Gd morning all
I have to agree, Bankers should not be paid more than nurses, footballers are again welll overpaid for what they ( Im not saying that they dont poses skills, athletic and is a job / hobby for many ) but they def get paid way too much for what they do! Just my opinion. Not to cause any problems.
so if you were a premier league footballer or a top level banker you would be happy to get less than a nurse?
its obv something you can say as not working in that industry in them roles (i dont by the way) but if you make serious cash you want paying serious cash too, its only fair"Hmmm, so in the same context , do you think the nurse's who helped get Wayne Rooney back to fittness after an injury should get a % of his future earnings ? or the Banker that as to have 3 months off work , because he's ill,and is nursed back to full health , should those nurse's also get a % of hisd /hers future income ...just a thought | |||
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"I take it the OP does realise there are a lot of footballers who ear the same or less than some nurses.... not all footballers are Wayne Rooney. Do you really think the world would be a better place if the people making multi billion pound decisions which impact on millions of lives, jobs and our economy had a £30k salary?" LOL you cant be serious , they rip off all your pension money , they re gamblers , nothing more nothing less , we can all bet with other peeps money , you have been on a different planet if you think they have made the right decisions over the last 10yrs .. but hey .. just my opinion .. | |||
"I take it the OP does realise there are a lot of footballers who ear the same or less than some nurses.... not all footballers are Wayne Rooney. Do you really think the world would be a better place if the people making multi billion pound decisions which impact on millions of lives, jobs and our economy had a £30k salary? LOL you cant be serious , they rip off all your pension money , they re gamblers , nothing more nothing less , we can all bet with other peeps money , you have been on a different planet if you think they have made the right decisions over the last 10yrs .. but hey .. just my opinion .. "An opinion based on what? And what bankers, nurses or whoever do in their private life should have little relevance.  | |||
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"I take it the OP does realise there are a lot of footballers who ear the same or less than some nurses.... not all footballers are Wayne Rooney. Do you really think the world would be a better place if the people making multi billion pound decisions which impact on millions of lives, jobs and our economy had a £30k salary? LOL you cant be serious , they rip off all your pension money , they re gamblers , nothing more nothing less , we can all bet with other peeps money , you have been on a different planet if you think they have made the right decisions over the last 10yrs .. but hey .. just my opinion ..
An opinion based on what? And what bankers, nurses or whoever do in their private life should have little relevance. "on Facts ..the bankers are getting Bonus payments , for no growth , infact a down would spiral of growth ... | |||
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"I take it the OP does realise there are a lot of footballers who ear the same or less than some nurses.... not all footballers are Wayne Rooney. Do you really think the world would be a better place if the people making multi billion pound decisions which impact on millions of lives, jobs and our economy had a £30k salary? LOL you cant be serious , they rip off all your pension money , they re gamblers , nothing more nothing less , we can all bet with other peeps money , you have been on a different planet if you think they have made the right decisions over the last 10yrs .. but hey .. just my opinion .. "So you think people on £30k would have made better decisions? I think may be you are right, I am on a different planet to you... does your world have a name yet? | |||
"I take it the OP does realise there are a lot of footballers who ear the same or less than some nurses.... not all footballers are Wayne Rooney. Do you really think the world would be a better place if the people making multi billion pound decisions which impact on millions of lives, jobs and our economy had a £30k salary? LOL you cant be serious , they rip off all your pension money , they re gamblers , nothing more nothing less , we can all bet with other peeps money , you have been on a different planet if you think they have made the right decisions over the last 10yrs .. but hey .. just my opinion .. "Bankers ,i can think of another word, They fail invest(gamble)whatever you call it ,very badly .get payd huge bonus for failing,and walk away with a big smile ,and certian people still cant see past them .My wife is a nurse if she made a paitent worse or killed them because of a wrong decion, she would no longer be a nurse , no golden handshake penchion or smile on her face,it seems we are rewarding them for failing, and as for footballers dont even start me on that one ,my working life on oil rigs and construction was short lived ,i never eard millions, a good living yes ,but after that i still have to go out and earn a living | |||
"I take it the OP does realise there are a lot of footballers who ear the same or less than some nurses.... not all footballers are Wayne Rooney. Do you really think the world would be a better place if the people making multi billion pound decisions which impact on millions of lives, jobs and our economy had a £30k salary? LOL you cant be serious , they rip off all your pension money , they re gamblers , nothing more nothing less , we can all bet with other peeps money , you have been on a different planet if you think they have made the right decisions over the last 10yrs .. but hey .. just my opinion ..
An opinion based on what? And what bankers, nurses or whoever do in their private life should have little relevance.
on Facts ..the bankers are getting Bonus payments , for no growth , infact a down would spiral of growth ... "So what has gambling got to do with it? And their bonuses are paid on what is in their contract! You really don't have a clue how it works do you. | |||
"I take it the OP does realise there are a lot of footballers who ear the same or less than some nurses.... not all footballers are Wayne Rooney. Do you really think the world would be a better place if the people making multi billion pound decisions which impact on millions of lives, jobs and our economy had a £30k salary? LOL you cant be serious , they rip off all your pension money , they re gamblers , nothing more nothing less , we can all bet with other peeps money , you have been on a different planet if you think they have made the right decisions over the last 10yrs .. but hey .. just my opinion ..
An opinion based on what? And what bankers, nurses or whoever do in their private life should have little relevance.
on Facts ..the bankers are getting Bonus payments , for no growth , infact a down would spiral of growth ...
So what has gambling got to do with it? And their bonuses are paid on what is in their contract! You really don't have a clue how it works do you. "Lol, i'm not the one who does'nt have a clue ..lol. i look around , i know what the bankers gambling with our money as done to the world and it's future , do you realise that ,kidas not even born yet are going to have to pay taxes to get us out of the mess the bankers havwe caused , why do you think the gov are trying to ring fence ,the bankers from gambling our money , it's the only way they make money , BUT HEY , someone else as rto lose money for it to work ..or do you think it grows on trees. | |||
"fcuk the bankers. nurses should just be paid more period" What about the nurses that underachieve?....the nurses that are lazy?....the nurses that are negligent? Because just like any other service, business or industry there are nurses amongst the ranks that are simply not as good or as caring as their colleagues. Should they therefore earn less than their peers who operate at the top of their profession? There are rubbish bankers....there are rubbish nurses. | |||
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"fcuk the bankers. nurses should just be paid more period What about the nurses that underachieve?....the nurses that are lazy?....the nurses that are negligent? Because just like any other service, business or industry there are nurses amongst the ranks that are simply not as good or as caring as their colleagues. Should they therefore earn less than their peers who operate at the top of their profession? There are rubbish bankers....there are rubbish nurses." Yes i agree rubish nurses rubish bankers ,but nurses dont get huge bonus for being rubish bankers do Why | |||
"I take it the OP does realise there are a lot of footballers who ear the same or less than some nurses.... not all footballers are Wayne Rooney. Do you really think the world would be a better place if the people making multi billion pound decisions which impact on millions of lives, jobs and our economy had a £30k salary? LOL you cant be serious , they rip off all your pension money , they re gamblers , nothing more nothing less , we can all bet with other peeps money , you have been on a different planet if you think they have made the right decisions over the last 10yrs .. but hey .. just my opinion ..
An opinion based on what? And what bankers, nurses or whoever do in their private life should have little relevance.
on Facts ..the bankers are getting Bonus payments , for no growth , infact a down would spiral of growth ...
So what has gambling got to do with it? And their bonuses are paid on what is in their contract! You really don't have a clue how it works do you.
Lol, i'm not the one who does'nt have a clue ..lol. i look around , i know what the bankers gambling with our money as done to the world and it's future , do you realise that ,kidas not even born yet are going to have to pay taxes to get us out of the mess the bankers havwe caused , why do you think the gov are trying to ring fence ,the bankers from gambling our money , it's the only way they make money , BUT HEY , someone else as rto lose money for it to work ..or do you think it grows on trees. "Banks all over have lost money from what is called toxic dept so get it right. They lent money to greedy people who essentially ere not able to repay what they borrowed. | |||
"fcuk the bankers. nurses should just be paid more period What about the nurses that underachieve?....the nurses that are lazy?....the nurses that are negligent? Because just like any other service, business or industry there are nurses amongst the ranks that are simply not as good or as caring as their colleagues. Should they therefore earn less than their peers who operate at the top of their profession? There are rubbish bankers....there are rubbish nurses.Yes i agree rubish nurses rubish bankers ,but nurses dont get huge bonus for being rubish bankers do Why" Its a lot easier to sack a banker than a nurse or any other person employed in the public sector for that matter. | |||
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"fcuk the bankers. nurses should just be paid more period What about the nurses that underachieve?....the nurses that are lazy?....the nurses that are negligent? Because just like any other service, business or industry there are nurses amongst the ranks that are simply not as good or as caring as their colleagues. Should they therefore earn less than their peers who operate at the top of their profession? There are rubbish bankers....there are rubbish nurses.Yes i agree rubish nurses rubish bankers ,but nurses dont get huge bonus for being rubish bankers do Why" The nurses had the option of studying for a different profession like all of us, they chose the road they wanted to follow knowing they were not in a profession that operated a bonus scheme....the bankers followed a profession that they knew may well involve a bonus scheme..... We all have choices in life | |||
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"I take it the OP does realise there are a lot of footballers who ear the same or less than some nurses.... not all footballers are Wayne Rooney. Do you really think the world would be a better place if the people making multi billion pound decisions which impact on millions of lives, jobs and our economy had a £30k salary? LOL you cant be serious , they rip off all your pension money , they re gamblers , nothing more nothing less , we can all bet with other peeps money , you have been on a different planet if you think they have made the right decisions over the last 10yrs .. but hey .. just my opinion ..
An opinion based on what? And what bankers, nurses or whoever do in their private life should have little relevance.
on Facts ..the bankers are getting Bonus payments , for no growth , infact a down would spiral of growth ...
So what has gambling got to do with it? And their bonuses are paid on what is in their contract! You really don't have a clue how it works do you.
Lol, i'm not the one who does'nt have a clue ..lol. i look around , i know what the bankers gambling with our money as done to the world and it's future , do you realise that ,kidas not even born yet are going to have to pay taxes to get us out of the mess the bankers havwe caused , why do you think the gov are trying to ring fence ,the bankers from gambling our money , it's the only way they make money , BUT HEY , someone else as rto lose money for it to work ..or do you think it grows on trees.
Banks all over have lost money from what is called toxic dept so get it right. They lent money to greedy people who essentially ere not able to repay what they borrowed. "LOL, you just answered your own folly , The Bankers lent it , without checking , or a back hander for turning a blind eye more like , your the one who doe'snt have a clue , because i don't believe you can be so trusting ,lol, | |||
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"Yes bankers should be paid more than nurses." +1 | |||
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"nurses that cant do their job properly would and should be struck off naturally same as anyone else that cant do the job to a standard taking bankers out of the equation. lets give some salary increases to the emergency services "How will we pay for this? | |||
"Gd morning all
I have to agree, Bankers should not be paid more than nurses, footballers are again welll overpaid for what they ( Im not saying that they dont poses skills, athletic and is a job / hobby for many ) but they def get paid way too much for what they do! Just my opinion. Not to cause any problems.
so if you were a premier league footballer or a top level banker you would be happy to get less than a nurse?
its obv something you can say as not working in that industry in them roles (i dont by the way) but if you make serious cash you want paying serious cash too, its only fair
Hmmm, so in the same context , do you think the nurse's who helped get Wayne Rooney back to fittness after an injury should get a % of his future earnings ?
or the Banker that as to have 3 months off work , because he's ill,and is nursed back to full health , should those nurse's also get a % of hisd /hers future income ...just a thought "should a window cleaner get a % of a sale of the house if the extra clean windows helped clinch the sale? | |||
"When you say the bankers are gambling with our money, do you mean you've spotted them on Foxy Bingo?" They be as well on foxy bingo for all the good they do, | |||
"I take it the OP does realise there are a lot of footballers who ear the same or less than some nurses.... not all footballers are Wayne Rooney. Do you really think the world would be a better place if the people making multi billion pound decisions which impact on millions of lives, jobs and our economy had a £30k salary? LOL you cant be serious , they rip off all your pension money , they re gamblers , nothing more nothing less , we can all bet with other peeps money , you have been on a different planet if you think they have made the right decisions over the last 10yrs .. but hey .. just my opinion ..
An opinion based on what? And what bankers, nurses or whoever do in their private life should have little relevance.
on Facts ..the bankers are getting Bonus payments , for no growth , infact a down would spiral of growth ...
So what has gambling got to do with it? And their bonuses are paid on what is in their contract! You really don't have a clue how it works do you.
Lol, i'm not the one who does'nt have a clue ..lol. i look around , i know what the bankers gambling with our money as done to the world and it's future , do you realise that ,kidas not even born yet are going to have to pay taxes to get us out of the mess the bankers havwe caused , why do you think the gov are trying to ring fence ,the bankers from gambling our money , it's the only way they make money , BUT HEY , someone else as rto lose money for it to work ..or do you think it grows on trees.
Banks all over have lost money from what is called toxic dept so get it right. They lent money to greedy people who essentially ere not able to repay what they borrowed.
LOL, you just answered your own folly , The Bankers lent it , without checking , or a back hander for turning a blind eye more like , your the one who doe'snt have a clue , because i don't believe you can be so trusting ,lol, "Wow you really believe checks weren't done? So if checks were done on every individual or business there would be no default on payment ever? Wake up get in the real world i really don't believe anyone can be so naive! | |||
"Nurses have to do a 4 year degree to qualiky what about footballers?" Their careers start at the age of Nine or Ten....for which they receive little or no recompense until they turn professional. They then enter a career that sees only a tiny proportion of them achieve a full time position. Then they are in a position where the vast majority who do eventually make the grade earn little more or even less than the average nurse. The ones that do reach the pinnacle of their career are paid in accordance with the vast amounts of money that their profession generates. Their profession also generates many other jobs that are related to it. Some might say that starting a career at the age of Nine or Ten, in an industry that sees the vast majority fall by the wayside for not being good enough, is every bit as important and every bit as much of an achievement as those that attain a degree. | |||
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"nurses that cant do their job properly would and should be struck off naturally same as anyone else that cant do the job to a standard taking bankers out of the equation. lets give some salary increases to the emergency services
How will we pay for this?"am not sure  u got any ideas? | |||
"I take it the OP does realise there are a lot of footballers who ear the same or less than some nurses.... not all footballers are Wayne Rooney. Do you really think the world would be a better place if the people making multi billion pound decisions which impact on millions of lives, jobs and our economy had a £30k salary? LOL you cant be serious , they rip off all your pension money , they re gamblers , nothing more nothing less , we can all bet with other peeps money , you have been on a different planet if you think they have made the right decisions over the last 10yrs .. but hey .. just my opinion ..
An opinion based on what? And what bankers, nurses or whoever do in their private life should have little relevance.
on Facts ..the bankers are getting Bonus payments , for no growth , infact a down would spiral of growth ...
So what has gambling got to do with it? And their bonuses are paid on what is in their contract! You really don't have a clue how it works do you.
Lol, i'm not the one who does'nt have a clue ..lol. i look around , i know what the bankers gambling with our money as done to the world and it's future , do you realise that ,kidas not even born yet are going to have to pay taxes to get us out of the mess the bankers havwe caused , why do you think the gov are trying to ring fence ,the bankers from gambling our money , it's the only way they make money , BUT HEY , someone else as rto lose money for it to work ..or do you think it grows on trees.
Banks all over have lost money from what is called toxic dept so get it right. They lent money to greedy people who essentially ere not able to repay what they borrowed.
LOL, you just answered your own folly , The Bankers lent it , without checking , or a back hander for turning a blind eye more like , your the one who doe'snt have a clue , because i don't believe you can be so trusting ,lol,
Wow you really believe checks weren't done? So if checks were done on every individual or business there would be no default on payment ever? Wake up get in the real world i really don't believe anyone can be so naive! "Ha HA , enjoy your pension , lol, you might just wake up then ...  | |||
"nurses that cant do their job properly would and should be struck off naturally same as anyone else that cant do the job to a standard taking bankers out of the equation. lets give some salary increases to the emergency services
How will we pay for this?
am not sure u got any ideas?"Yeah , lets all Bet on the Grand National , if we all chuck a £1 in , somebody will win , eh ? Mebbies .. | |||
"I take it the OP does realise there are a lot of footballers who ear the same or less than some nurses.... not all footballers are Wayne Rooney. Do you really think the world would be a better place if the people making multi billion pound decisions which impact on millions of lives, jobs and our economy had a £30k salary? LOL you cant be serious , they rip off all your pension money , they re gamblers , nothing more nothing less , we can all bet with other peeps money , you have been on a different planet if you think they have made the right decisions over the last 10yrs .. but hey .. just my opinion ..
An opinion based on what? And what bankers, nurses or whoever do in their private life should have little relevance.
on Facts ..the bankers are getting Bonus payments , for no growth , infact a down would spiral of growth ...
So what has gambling got to do with it? And their bonuses are paid on what is in their contract! You really don't have a clue how it works do you.
Lol, i'm not the one who does'nt have a clue ..lol. i look around , i know what the bankers gambling with our money as done to the world and it's future , do you realise that ,kidas not even born yet are going to have to pay taxes to get us out of the mess the bankers havwe caused , why do you think the gov are trying to ring fence ,the bankers from gambling our money , it's the only way they make money , BUT HEY , someone else as rto lose money for it to work ..or do you think it grows on trees.
Banks all over have lost money from what is called toxic dept so get it right. They lent money to greedy people who essentially ere not able to repay what they borrowed.
LOL, you just answered your own folly , The Bankers lent it , without checking , or a back hander for turning a blind eye more like , your the one who doe'snt have a clue , because i don't believe you can be so trusting ,lol,
Wow you really believe checks weren't done? So if checks were done on every individual or business there would be no default on payment ever? Wake up get in the real world i really don't believe anyone can be so naive!
Ha HA , enjoy your pension , lol, you might just wake up then ... "How droll and immature to take it personal. | |||
"I take it the OP does realise there are a lot of footballers who ear the same or less than some nurses.... not all footballers are Wayne Rooney. Do you really think the world would be a better place if the people making multi billion pound decisions which impact on millions of lives, jobs and our economy had a £30k salary? LOL you cant be serious , they rip off all your pension money , they re gamblers , nothing more nothing less , we can all bet with other peeps money , you have been on a different planet if you think they have made the right decisions over the last 10yrs .. but hey .. just my opinion ..
An opinion based on what? And what bankers, nurses or whoever do in their private life should have little relevance.
on Facts ..the bankers are getting Bonus payments , for no growth , infact a down would spiral of growth ...
So what has gambling got to do with it? And their bonuses are paid on what is in their contract! You really don't have a clue how it works do you.
Lol, i'm not the one who does'nt have a clue ..lol. i look around , i know what the bankers gambling with our money as done to the world and it's future , do you realise that ,kidas not even born yet are going to have to pay taxes to get us out of the mess the bankers havwe caused , why do you think the gov are trying to ring fence ,the bankers from gambling our money , it's the only way they make money , BUT HEY , someone else as rto lose money for it to work ..or do you think it grows on trees.
Banks all over have lost money from what is called toxic dept so get it right. They lent money to greedy people who essentially ere not able to repay what they borrowed.
LOL, you just answered your own folly , The Bankers lent it , without checking , or a back hander for turning a blind eye more like , your the one who doe'snt have a clue , because i don't believe you can be so trusting ,lol,
Wow you really believe checks weren't done? So if checks were done on every individual or business there would be no default on payment ever? Wake up get in the real world i really don't believe anyone can be so naive!
Ha HA , enjoy your pension , lol, you might just wake up then ...
How droll and immature to take it personal. "Lol, your the one who stared calling me names , i'm just trying to educate you , but i'm on a losing battle , so i resorted in a throw away line ... but hey ... it's a simple question ...Should Bankers be paid more than Nurses , if i'd wanted a lecture on the ethics of bankers ,i'd have asked for oner .... | |||
"nurses that cant do their job properly would and should be struck off naturally same as anyone else that cant do the job to a standard taking bankers out of the equation. lets give some salary increases to the emergency services
How will we pay for this?
am not sure u got any ideas?"We could pay the bankers and footballers more and use their taxes? | |||
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"Lol, your the one who stared calling me names , i'm just trying to educate you , but i'm on a losing battle , so i resorted in a throw away line ... but hey ... it's a simple question ...Should Bankers be paid more than Nurses , if i'd wanted a lecture on the ethics of bankers ,i'd have asked for oner .... "In other words you started a thread that only welcomes replies that agree with you?.....not a debate then. More a lecture?.... | |||
"I take it the OP does realise there are a lot of footballers who ear the same or less than some nurses.... not all footballers are Wayne Rooney. Do you really think the world would be a better place if the people making multi billion pound decisions which impact on millions of lives, jobs and our economy had a £30k salary? LOL you cant be serious , they rip off all your pension money , they re gamblers , nothing more nothing less , we can all bet with other peeps money , you have been on a different planet if you think they have made the right decisions over the last 10yrs .. but hey .. just my opinion ..
An opinion based on what? And what bankers, nurses or whoever do in their private life should have little relevance.
on Facts ..the bankers are getting Bonus payments , for no growth , infact a down would spiral of growth ...
So what has gambling got to do with it? And their bonuses are paid on what is in their contract! You really don't have a clue how it works do you.
Lol, i'm not the one who does'nt have a clue ..lol. i look around , i know what the bankers gambling with our money as done to the world and it's future , do you realise that ,kidas not even born yet are going to have to pay taxes to get us out of the mess the bankers havwe caused , why do you think the gov are trying to ring fence ,the bankers from gambling our money , it's the only way they make money , BUT HEY , someone else as rto lose money for it to work ..or do you think it grows on trees.
Banks all over have lost money from what is called toxic dept so get it right. They lent money to greedy people who essentially ere not able to repay what they borrowed.
LOL, you just answered your own folly , The Bankers lent it , without checking , or a back hander for turning a blind eye more like , your the one who doe'snt have a clue , because i don't believe you can be so trusting ,lol,
Wow you really believe checks weren't done? So if checks were done on every individual or business there would be no default on payment ever? Wake up get in the real world i really don't believe anyone can be so naive!
Ha HA , enjoy your pension , lol, you might just wake up then ...
How droll and immature to take it personal.
Lol, your the one who stared calling me names , i'm just trying to educate you , but i'm on a losing battle , so i resorted in a throw away line ... but hey ... it's a simple question ...Should Bankers be paid more than Nurses , if i'd wanted a lecture on the ethics of bankers ,i'd have asked for oner .... "You need real knowledge to educate which you clearly don't have. | |||
"nurses that cant do their job properly would and should be struck off naturally same as anyone else that cant do the job to a standard taking bankers out of the equation. lets give some salary increases to the emergency services
How will we pay for this?
am not sure u got any ideas?
We could pay the bankers and footballers more and use their taxes?"they earn enough as it is  | |||
"Lol, your the one who stared calling me names , i'm just trying to educate you , but i'm on a losing battle , so i resorted in a throw away line ... but hey ... it's a simple question ...Should Bankers be paid more than Nurses , if i'd wanted a lecture on the ethics of bankers ,i'd have asked for oner ....
In other words you started a thread that only welcomes replies that agree with you?.....not a debate then.
More a lecture?...."Like I he said he's trying to educate you - sounds more like hes trying to brainwash you myself  | |||
"nurses that cant do their job properly would and should be struck off naturally same as anyone else that cant do the job to a standard taking bankers out of the equation. lets give some salary increases to the emergency services
How will we pay for this?
am not sure u got any ideas?
We could pay the bankers and footballers more and use their taxes?
they earn enough as it is "Maybe you should have chosen a different career then?.....might have saved you from all that envy. We all have choices in life (I know, I said it before) | |||
"Lol, your the one who stared calling me names , i'm just trying to educate you , but i'm on a losing battle...." May be if you tried a few actual facts instead of generalised subjective bollox you may have a better chance. | |||
"Lol, your the one who stared calling me names , i'm just trying to educate you , but i'm on a losing battle.... May be if you tried a few actual facts instead of generalised subjective bollox you may have a better chance. " LOL, i'm not here to inform you , i'm here to get an incite of my potential meets , you got potenial ... | |||
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"come on now you shouldnt just assume im envious i didnt post hating on bankers n footballers i just wanted pay increases for the emergency services "Well the easiest way to do that is to scrap the NHS... does that sound like a plan? | |||
"come on now you shouldnt just assume im envious i didnt post hating on bankers n footballers i just wanted pay increases for the emergency services "The emergency services are relatively well paid (deservedly) for all their hard work and dedication.... | |||
"come on now you shouldnt just assume im envious i didnt post hating on bankers n footballers i just wanted pay increases for the emergency services "Nurses are not an emergency service | |||
"it's a choice! People choose to become nurses or bankers or footballers! I chose a poor paying industry to work in as I liked it, doesn't mean to say I couldn't have been a nurse or a banker or anything else in between. If nurses want paid more, I suggest they choose to change career or to be promoted within their existing one. " Why should we change our career when have worked and studied so hard to get it in the first place ! Its all very well saying try to get promoted but this means even more training at a cost to ourselves , and even when that extra qualification is gained it doesnt necessarily mean a promotion as there are so many others after the same post . You have no idea the amount of qualified nurses there are out of work because there are no posts available | |||
"I have plasters if it ends in fisticuffs?" Only if you have a latex nurses uniform to go with them.... | |||
"Nurses have to do a 4 year degree to qualiky what about footballers?" probs twice as long if not more in training and earning a professional contract from being a kid - as well as dedicating the early part of their lives and future on something which for 99% of them is doomed to end in failure and lead to nothing apart from them starting again or going to work in a dead end job when they dont become a proper professional and live the dream! its not like someone kicks a ball about then next minute they are spotted and are playing for man utd, every footballer has gone through just as much if not more than someone who has become a nurse to get their, and when they fail not much else they can do unless they were smart and got qualified in something else at the same time not sticking up for them, but its harder to qualify as a professional footballer than it is to be a nurse! and people generalise and hate on those at the top with the big money, im sure the guys have enough credientials and bring in enough money to have them wages and positions, otherwise they wouldnt get paid that much, its different bringing cash in than just filling a job role thats not bringing big money in. fact is if you bring in big money you want big money yourself otherwise your being taken advantage of! not that nurses dont do more valued worked in alot of cases saving lives etc which you cant put a price on, but its not generating money so they dont really have the same claim to the extra cash like top level footballers or bankers do. | |||
"I have plasters if it ends in fisticuffs? Only if you have a latex nurses uniform to go with them.... "Kinky biatch! | |||
" what does a nurse get? Aching feet "...and lots of men checking them out in their uniforms and playing out fantasy scenarios in their minds! | |||
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" what does a nurse get? Aching feet
...and lots of men checking them out in their uniforms and playing out fantasy scenarios in their minds!"Cheers for that,Im never going to look at old Mr Brown in the same way again without blushing | |||
"come on now you shouldnt just assume im envious i didnt post hating on bankers n footballers i just wanted pay increases for the emergency services
Well the easiest way to do that is to scrap the NHS... does that sound like a plan?"Scrap the NHS oh dear oh dear oh dear, the haves and the have nots how selfish have we became, leave health care open to the cheapest tender,and the only ones who will suffer is the ill and the nurses ,because like i have said in the past every little thing will come down to profit for the share holders of the private company who is awarded the job | |||
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"Right there seems to be 2 conversations going on, should bankers get paid more than nurses? Yes they should, should bankers be paid there massive bonuses if they fail no the shouldn't, yes bankers deal in figures we couldn't imagine but if they don't reach there targets then they shouldn't receive said bonus, as for footballers as someone has said if people didn't pay the 50 60 quid for a ticket then wages would fall, but alas there's always someone waiting to take that place and pay that money"
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"i`d class nurses as an emergency service "Ok you can but officially police fire and ambulance are the emergency services. Nurses are part of the health service so are doctors porters clerks cleaners etc etc | |||
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"I think bankers don't get paid enough, nurses are highly overpaid and footballers should get whatever their agents can wangle for them." I suspect ,well i hope i am right,you are just trying to stirr things a little ,nurses over payed ,do you no any | |||
"come on now you shouldnt just assume im envious i didnt post hating on bankers n footballers i just wanted pay increases for the emergency services
Well the easiest way to do that is to scrap the NHS... does that sound like a plan?Scrap the NHS oh dear oh dear oh dear, the haves and the have nots how selfish have we became...."In a thread bitching about how much bankers and footballers earn....... classic | |||
"come on now you shouldnt just assume im envious i didnt post hating on bankers n footballers i just wanted pay increases for the emergency services
Well the easiest way to do that is to scrap the NHS... does that sound like a plan?Scrap the NHS oh dear oh dear oh dear, the haves and the have nots how selfish have we became....
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"Nurses have to do a 4 year degree to qualiky what about footballers?" Do all nurse really need a degree????? If you want to work up the nursing career ladder, maybe, everyday nurse, NO. | |||
"The corner stone is pay differentials. i.e Minimum wage v Benefits. Skilled v unskilled How do you determine what someone's job is worth. Do you take a life time or a this year view. (Footballers short career, Nurse 40 years, good pension and job security) Things do have a way to sort themselves out. If you think footballers are paid too much, stop watching football, less money less to pay players. If you think a nurse (Which ones) say ITU is worth the same as one that helps in an day clinic, why be an ITU nurse... I suspect the true worth is how many people want to or can do the job, then the pay will be accordingly. " normally its done on how much money does my business make by employing this person, then they are paid accordingly or they look elsewhere and leave! people just make footballers and bankers easy targets coz of their wages for when things go wrong, like someone above said these people are the cream of the crop getting stupid money, most people just aint coming close to them numbers at all! nice to have scapegoats, but really you cant blame anyone for taking the money they are offered and think they deserve, its the people who pay them it who create the monster they need to feed | |||
"lets get some free labour out of all the crims living it up in soft prisons and all assets gained through crime can be confiscated and pumped back into the emergency services "and then cost people who can only get minimum wage jobs their jobs because someone does it for free. not all these problems are as simple as they sound! | |||
"People get paid according to their skills and value to the economic growth and the growth of society. Nurses get paid more than porters because they have studied more for their position equally doctors get paid more than nurses. If nurses want more pay then they can take further qualifications. And the ill informed who blame it all on the bankers well if you want to be so blinkered then you do just that but you are displaying a huge degree of ignorance on how society works." exactly, a banker on millions a year, surely they have done endless years of qualifications and expiereience to get into this position for themselves, its not like they are going into ladbrookes or even on the stock market with someone elses money they do alot more than that | |||
"lets get some free labour out of all the crims living it up in soft prisons and all assets gained through crime can be confiscated and pumped back into the emergency services "Assets of criminals are already confiscated.....but why should they be ringfenced for the emergency services?...there are probably groups that deserve the extra funding far more then emergency services personnel. Far more..... | |||
"lets get some free labour out of all the crims living it up in soft prisons and all assets gained through crime can be confiscated and pumped back into the emergency services
Assets of criminals are already confiscated.....but why should they be ringfenced for the emergency services?...there are probably groups that deserve the extra funding far more then emergency services personnel.
Far more....."yeh and then someone else will say something else is more deserving and so on and so on lets take a public vote | |||
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"Since Britain's manufacturing went down the pan, the finance sector brings in the most money for Great Britain PLC. Without ghe bankers doing what they do, there would be no money to pay the nurses teachers firemen police etc. none of those roles directly create wealth. All those bankers' bonuses are taxed at 50% so we get some of it back anyway" The problem of course with moving over to a service dominated economy is that it is much more difficult to realise gains in productivity and grow the economy - a banker can only do a finite number of deals, a hairdresser can only give a finite number of haircuts etc etc without diluting the quality of their product. Whereas in manufacturing, productivity gains are available through improved technology, machinery, techniques etc. This is why our economy has in fact grown much more slowly since the 80s in comparison with the 60s and 70s - and the only periods of rapid growth that we have experiencenced have been short-lived booms felled by consumer spending, bought with borrowed money, spent on mostly imported goods ........ followed by the inevitable bust The simple fact of the matter is that the so-called free-market (they aren't really) policies our successive governments have pursued have not been nearly as successful as they would lead us to believe. Time for some new ideas. | |||
"Last imput from me on this .....just to say ..Bankers are still getting a Bonus for making mistakes ... now if her Nurse makes a Mistake ... someone could DIE .... "That applies to an awful lot of jobs/professions - the vast majority of nurses rarely are responsible for life or death situations | |||
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"Since Britain's manufacturing went down the pan, the finance sector brings in the most money for Great Britain PLC. Without ghe bankers doing what they do, there would be no money to pay the nurses teachers firemen police etc. none of those roles directly create wealth. All those bankers' bonuses are taxed at 50% so we get some of it back anyway The problem of course with moving over to a service dominated economy is that it is much more difficult to realise gains in productivity and grow the economy - a banker can only do a finite number of deals, a hairdresser can only give a finite number of haircuts etc etc without diluting the quality of their product. Whereas in manufacturing, productivity gains are available through improved technology, machinery, techniques etc. This is why our economy has in fact grown much more slowly since the 80s in comparison with the 60s and 70s - and the only periods of rapid growth that we have experiencenced have been short-lived booms felled by consumer spending, bought with borrowed money, spent on mostly imported goods ........ followed by the inevitable bust The simple fact of the matter is that the so-called free-market (they aren't really) policies our successive governments have pursued have not been nearly as successful as they would lead us to believe. Time for some new ideas."  | |||
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"Last imput from me on this .....just to say ..Bankers are still getting a Bonus for making mistakes ... now if her Nurse makes a Mistake ... someone could DIE ....
That applies to an awful lot of jobs/professions - the vast majority of nurses rarely are responsible for life or death situations"Complete rubbish | |||
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"should any one get paid more than any one else ????? no but thats life just get on with it " I totally disagree!!! So someone who works n studies hard to get to be say a DR, should get paid the same as say the guy who holds a sign up telling you where the nearest pizza hut is? Twaddle  | |||
"What's this got to do with Swinging?? "This is the lounge where all sorts of topics are discussed | |||
How about we compare the fat cat NHS administrators with big pay packets with bank tellers and bank telephone advisers.
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"I love the way this thread is so impartial in the way its set up. Comparing the 1% of people in the banking industry who are on big bonuses with the 90% of the NHS who are nurses is so garmented to provoke a reaction.
How about we compare the fat cat NHS administrators with big pay packets with bank tellers and bank telephone advisers.
"Put UP a new Tread on that question if you like .. it's a free country ..or is it , | |||
"I love the way this thread is so impartial in the way its set up. Comparing the 1% of people in the banking industry who are on big bonuses with the 90% of the NHS who are nurses is so garmented to provoke a reaction.
How about we compare the fat cat NHS administrators with big pay packets with bank tellers and bank telephone advisers.
Put UP a new Tread on that question if you like .. it's a free country ..or is it , "Another example of only seeing replies that agree with your way of thinking as being acceptable.... | |||
"I love the way this thread is so impartial in the way its set up. Comparing the 1% of people in the banking industry who are on big bonuses with the 90% of the NHS who are nurses is so garmented to provoke a reaction.
How about we compare the fat cat NHS administrators with big pay packets with bank tellers and bank telephone advisers.
Put UP a new Tread on that question if you like .. it's a free country ..or is it , "You are very petulant aren't you and I have to say lack the maturity of many men on here. | |||
"I love the way this thread is so impartial in the way its set up. Comparing the 1% of people in the banking industry who are on big bonuses with the 90% of the NHS who are nurses is so garmented to provoke a reaction.
How about we compare the fat cat NHS administrators with big pay packets with bank tellers and bank telephone advisers.
Put UP a new Tread on that question if you like .. it's a free country ..or is it ,
You are very petulant aren't you and I have to say lack the maturity of many men on here. "Thanks , now answer my question please ..i'll get back to yours when you post it ... | |||
"I love the way this thread is so impartial in the way its set up. Comparing the 1% of people in the banking industry who are on big bonuses with the 90% of the NHS who are nurses is so garmented to provoke a reaction.
How about we compare the fat cat NHS administrators with big pay packets with bank tellers and bank telephone advisers.
Put UP a new Tread on that question if you like .. it's a free country ..or is it ,
You are very petulant aren't you and I have to say lack the maturity of many men on here.
Thanks , now answer my question please ..i'll get back to yours when you post it ... "And i thought you couldn't get any more childish! I didn't ask you a question I made a factual comment. | |||
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" .... the unions who did so much over the last 100 years to narrow the gap between the top and bottom earners......" The reason the jobs went abroad in the first place was??? I remember a factory near to me, employing some 700 people, that factory production has move to Poland. Did it go because they wanted a polish base, was it because polish workers gave more or was it simple economics? The reason public sector is the still in the UK, is because you can't do it abroad, but with the huge cost to the taxpayer, i'm pretty sure there are groups working on how do it... Remember an employee is a worker who can do a job a machine can't do, yet... Make it worth while to build up a manufacturing base back in the UK. | |||
"I love the way this thread is so impartial in the way its set up. Comparing the 1% of people in the banking industry who are on big bonuses with the 90% of the NHS who are nurses is so garmented to provoke a reaction.
How about we compare the fat cat NHS administrators with big pay packets with bank tellers and bank telephone advisers.
Put UP a new Tread on that question if you like .. it's a free country ..or is it ,
You are very petulant aren't you and I have to say lack the maturity of many men on here.
Thanks , now answer my question please ..i'll get back to yours when you post it ...
And i thought you couldn't get any more childish! I didn't ask you a question I made a factual comment."Whatever ...i bored with it now anyway .. lets move on ,eh | |||
" .... the unions who did so much over the last 100 years to narrow the gap between the top and bottom earners...... The reason the jobs went abroad in the first place was??? I remember a factory near to me, employing some 700 people, that factory production has move to Poland. Did it go because they wanted a polish base, was it because polish workers gave more or was it simple economics? The reason public sector is the still in the UK, is because you can't do it abroad, but with the huge cost to the taxpayer, i'm pretty sure there are groups working on how do it... Remember an employee is a worker who can do a job a machine can't do, yet... Make it worth while to build up a manufacturing base back in the UK." Excuse me, but did the factory go because the Unions were too strong? Did it go in the 80's or the 90's? No, it went because the labor was cheaper and even with 30 years of the decline of our employment rights and our relative pay, it is still cheaper to manufacture cheap stuff elsewhere. This belies the lie behind us working the longest hours for the lowest pay in (the Old 15 nations of) Europe, Capital still sinks to the lowest price. What the engineers and manufacturers of this country need to do is stick to what we are good at (being high spec, high performance, and extreme innovation manufacturing), not what other countries can knock out at 0.01p per kilo cheaper than us....... | |||
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"Seriously someone thinks a nurse gets £30kpa lmfao A general nurse gets between 21 and 25k pa u less over time they specialise and become management. Sorry I believe a banker gets paid too much yes they invest an gamble money and sometime win but even when they loose they still get bonuses. A nurse gets a set wage no extras and if they do somethin wrong there struck off with no career in nursing ever again, and as public like to complain its easier forthem to get warnings etc And yes footballers get paid way too much but some ppl believe that's entertainment, but to say movie stars an musicians should be in this groups is crazy as musicians only get money when they produce something that sells same as movie starts if they dont produce they don't get paid, fair enough if successful they get set high fees but takes a long time for this" Well what do you think footballers produce - week in week out they generate huge viewing figures and cash revenue - if the masses on virtually every continent didnt want to pay then wages would fall | |||
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" .... the unions who did so much over the last 100 years to narrow the gap between the top and bottom earners...... The reason the jobs went abroad in the first place was??? I remember a factory near to me, employing some 700 people, that factory production has move to Poland. Did it go because they wanted a polish base, was it because polish workers gave more or was it simple economics? The reason public sector is the still in the UK, is because you can't do it abroad, but with the huge cost to the taxpayer, i'm pretty sure there are groups working on how do it... Remember an employee is a worker who can do a job a machine can't do, yet... Make it worth while to build up a manufacturing base back in the UK. Excuse me, but did the factory go because the Unions were too strong? Did it go in the 80's or the 90's? No, it went because the labor was cheaper and even with 30 years of the decline of our employment rights and our relative pay, it is still cheaper to manufacture cheap stuff elsewhere. This belies the lie behind us working the longest hours for the lowest pay in (the Old 15 nations of) Europe, Capital still sinks to the lowest price. What the engineers and manufacturers of this country need to do is stick to what we are good at (being high spec, high performance, and extreme innovation manufacturing), not what other countries can knock out at 0.01p per kilo cheaper than us....... " It went in 2008, closer to a 1000 people. It was about 70% union members AEEU Amicus now known as UNITE... Any job is a starting point. All jobs need skilled support... But I guess our differenced is down to ideology. | |||
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" .... the unions who did so much over the last 100 years to narrow the gap between the top and bottom earners...... The reason the jobs went abroad in the first place was??? I remember a factory near to me, employing some 700 people, that factory production has move to Poland. Did it go because they wanted a polish base, was it because polish workers gave more or was it simple economics? The reason public sector is the still in the UK, is because you can't do it abroad, but with the huge cost to the taxpayer, i'm pretty sure there are groups working on how do it... Remember an employee is a worker who can do a job a machine can't do, yet... Make it worth while to build up a manufacturing base back in the UK. Excuse me, but did the factory go because the Unions were too strong? Did it go in the 80's or the 90's? No, it went because the labor was cheaper and even with 30 years of the decline of our employment rights and our relative pay, it is still cheaper to manufacture cheap stuff elsewhere. This belies the lie behind us working the longest hours for the lowest pay in (the Old 15 nations of) Europe, Capital still sinks to the lowest price. What the engineers and manufacturers of this country need to do is stick to what we are good at (being high spec, high performance, and extreme innovation manufacturing), not what other countries can knock out at 0.01p per kilo cheaper than us....... It went in 2008, closer to a 1000 people. It was about 70% union members AEEU Amicus now known as UNITE... Any job is a starting point. All jobs need skilled support... But I guess our differenced is down to ideology." You are absolutely right, our differences are ideological (and I won't go into why I no longer associate with UKCP or SWP....). It is, though, a true correlation that the greater the disparity of incomes between the top and the bottom, the less fair the society and the less connection those at the bottom feel to 'society'. | |||
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