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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
one word of advice.... whichever of your PR "minions" suggested you do that interview... sack them!!
that was god awful..... seriously, what was anyone thinking...
WTF!!!!!!  |
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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago
Hull |
I watched part of the programme and couldn't help feeling that his responses weren't as "natural" as I'd expect them to be.
I'd an uneasy feeling it was all too staged, that he'd been coached on how to respond, to within an inch of his life.
It came over too, as almost being arrogant to the allegations. |
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"I watched part of the programme and couldn't help feeling that his responses weren't as "natural" as I'd expect them to be.
I'd an uneasy feeling it was all too staged, that he'd been coached on how to respond, to within an inch of his life.
It came over too, as almost being arrogant to the allegations."
It was arrogant. He appears to think that we're all fools who will believe that as a senior member of the royal family his activities and whereabouts won't have been recorded for security and organisational reasons. |
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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago
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"What did he do "
Where have you been??
He's been linked to the recently deceased and charged sexual predator Epstein in the USA, who also groomed young girls to "entertain" his wealthy male associates.
That includes Prince Andrew. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"What did he do
Where have you been??
He's been linked to the recently deceased and charged sexual predator Epstein in the USA, who also groomed young girls to "entertain" his wealthy male associates.
That includes Prince Andrew."
I'm Irish I don't read a whole lot about it. |
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"What did he do
Where have you been??
He's been linked to the recently deceased and charged sexual predator Epstein in the USA, who also groomed young girls to "entertain" his wealthy male associates.
That includes Prince Andrew."
And trump, and bill clinton, and the saudi prince, kevin spacey and many other high up bankers and CEOs.
Which is why he didnt commit suicide and was killed.
As the entire circumstances around that nothing adds up.
He had too much on everyone which would have come out in the court.
Some people think hes not even dead and living life on a island or somthing and the whole story is a cover up.
Either way he definitely did not kill himself of that I'm certain.
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"What did he do
Where have you been??
He's been linked to the recently deceased and charged sexual predator Epstein in the USA, who also groomed young girls to "entertain" his wealthy male associates.
That includes Prince Andrew.
And trump, and bill clinton, and the saudi prince, kevin spacey and many other high up bankers and CEOs.
Which is why he didnt commit suicide and was killed.
As the entire circumstances around that nothing adds up.
He had too much on everyone which would have come out in the court.
Some people think hes not even dead and living life on a island or somthing and the whole story is a cover up.
Either way he definitely did not kill himself of that I'm certain.
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How are you certain? |
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By *eeBee67Man
over a year ago
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Hes rich and privileged, to be honest I think they are all at it.
However, she says she was "seduced" by Prince Andrew, doesn't that mean she fell for him and was a willing participant with him?
I'm not talking about the Epstein part, just the HRH part. |
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By *eeBee67Man
over a year ago
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I dudnt watch it to be honest just seen clips. Have read lots about it though.
A dodgy situation to say the least.
If it is proved he did abuse her then, lock him up.
If she was a willing, even though naive, participant who now regrets it and is trying to somehow clear her conscience, then should that be treated differently? |
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The problem is these people have power and money, they think they can get away without any suspicion. Not the case anymore
There seems to be a lot of rumours regarding the individual the op was discussing, many may be very false.
However the rumours would not have started if there wasn’t something going on for people to suspect he was involved in these type of offences....
If this was pre emptied by his PR people before any involvement of judiciary system or law inforcement, then I feel there is more to the story than what we are being told. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It was excruciating viewing.
He didn't used to be able to sweat cuz he was in the Falklands?! 
Read the reviews of Pizza Express Woking...they are hilarious.  |
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"I watched part of the programme and couldn't help feeling that his responses weren't as "natural" as I'd expect them to be.
I'd an uneasy feeling it was all too staged, that he'd been coached on how to respond, to within an inch of his life.
It came over too, as almost being arrogant to the allegations."
My impression too.
Funny, there haven't been many comments on this on social media etc but thousands of negative comments about Meghan spending Christmas with her mum. |
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He should have dealt with these accusations long ago, by waiting he’s made it much worse. How can you say that you don’t recall visiting a certain part of a house where there’s a picture showing you there? He’s guilty and he’s pretty much made things so much worse for himself.
If you were on a jury and a witness gave that kind of evidence from the witness box then you’d tend not to believe them. I don’t care who his mother is, he seems to be guilty and should be dealt with. I imagine he will now quietly disappear from public into a comfortable life with privilege and lackeys. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I watched part of the programme and couldn't help feeling that his responses weren't as "natural" as I'd expect them to be.
I'd an uneasy feeling it was all too staged, that he'd been coached on how to respond, to within an inch of his life.
It came over too, as almost being arrogant to the allegations.
My impression too.
Funny, there haven't been many comments on this on social media etc but thousands of negative comments about Meghan spending Christmas with her mum."
All I've seen are negative comments. No one believes a word of it and, other than the conspiracy theorists, they pretty much say what has been said here |
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"What did he do
Where have you been??
He's been linked to the recently deceased and charged sexual predator Epstein in the USA, who also groomed young girls to "entertain" his wealthy male associates.
That includes Prince Andrew.
And trump, and bill clinton, and the saudi prince, kevin spacey and many other high up bankers and CEOs.
Which is why he didnt commit suicide and was killed.
As the entire circumstances around that nothing adds up.
He had too much on everyone which would have come out in the court.
Some people think hes not even dead and living life on a island or somthing and the whole story is a cover up.
Either way he definitely did not kill himself of that I'm certain.
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I agree |
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
There and to the left a bit |
I didn't see it apart from the clips shown on the news and he did come across as rather cool and collected and rehearsed - whether he did or didn't do the things he's being accused of we'll probably never know, it's easy to get conspiracy theorist about, but it may also just be possible he's telling the truth, we'll never know for sure.
To add some balance though he's in a no win situation, doing the interview leaves him wide open to the kind of comment on this thread, but if he didn't do it people would be asking what he had to hide. And of course he's going to be coached and rehearsed to within an inch of his life for an interview like that.
Like I said the trappings of power mean we'll never know the full truth. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I didn't see it apart from the clips shown on the news and he did come across as rather cool and collected and rehearsed - whether he did or didn't do the things he's being accused of we'll probably never know, it's easy to get conspiracy theorist about, but it may also just be possible he's telling the truth, we'll never know for sure.
To add some balance though he's in a no win situation, doing the interview leaves him wide open to the kind of comment on this thread, but if he didn't do it people would be asking what he had to hide. And of course he's going to be coached and rehearsed to within an inch of his life for an interview like that.
Like I said the trappings of power mean we'll never know the full truth."
I especially agree about the no win situation. |
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We are subjects in his eyes, the viewing public. So anything he says we the unwashed and ill educated subjects to the Royal Family should just understand that theirs is a complicated life and not open to scrutiny or criticism. That's how he came across to me.
He doesn't want to end up going to court and having perjure himself, so in his eyes and his advisors, it's best to put his side of the story out, on public record. This may discourage a prosecutor to call him to trial.
I've always been ambivalent to Andrew, he actually served with distinction in the Falklands (from what I've read) so I've always ignored him. However for this scandal he's a lying toerag, who believes his words have more credence than the victim who has already given a legal statement to the prosecution in the US. Which could end up with her being prosecuted for perjury and has photographic proof as well. I truly hope this blows up in his face and more information and proof is disclosed to the public  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"We are subjects in his eyes, the viewing public. So anything he says we the unwashed and ill educated subjects to the Royal Family should just understand that theirs is a complicated life and not open to scrutiny or criticism. That's how he came across to me.
He doesn't want to end up going to court and having perjure himself, so in his eyes and his advisors, it's best to put his side of the story out, on public record. This may discourage a prosecutor to call him to trial.
I've always been ambivalent to Andrew, he actually served with distinction in the Falklands (from what I've read) so I've always ignored him. However for this scandal he's a lying toerag, who believes his words have more credence than the victim who has already given a legal statement to the prosecution in the US. Which could end up with her being prosecuted for perjury and has photographic proof as well. I truly hope this blows up in his face and more information and proof is disclosed to the public "
So do I
Ive been on the receiving end of arseholes who think they can hide behind their position, cos they are untouchable
They make me sick |
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As some have said we'll never know the truth but he has been extremely poorly advised. A short interview saying he'd made an error of judgment where Epstein was concerned and looking back he regrets his continued friendship with him, leaving out the mention of being honourable would have served him better I think. I think too that he might have been better advised to issue a written statement along with documents proving that he was where he claims to have been. As I said above he wouldn't have gone to Woking without it being recorded somewhere. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"As some have said we'll never know the truth but he has been extremely poorly advised. A short interview saying he'd made an error of judgment where Epstein was concerned and looking back he regrets his continued friendship with him, leaving out the mention of being honourable would have served him better I think. I think too that he might have been better advised to issue a written statement along with documents proving that he was where he claims to have been. As I said above he wouldn't have gone to Woking without it being recorded somewhere."
Or.... has he been 'advised' in that way on purpose so he will be the untouchable fall guy? He will look guilty and people will direct blame at him instead of the rest of the dodgy group. 
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"As some have said we'll never know the truth but he has been extremely poorly advised. A short interview saying he'd made an error of judgment where Epstein was concerned and looking back he regrets his continued friendship with him, leaving out the mention of being honourable would have served him better I think. I think too that he might have been better advised to issue a written statement along with documents proving that he was where he claims to have been. As I said above he wouldn't have gone to Woking without it being recorded somewhere.
Or.... has he been 'advised' in that way on purpose so he will be the untouchable fall guy? He will look guilty and people will direct blame at him instead of the rest of the dodgy group.
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We'll never know. I can't imagine his personal advisers deliberately hanging him out to dry or the "firm" allowing it to happen. There must be a more disposable person. I guess only time will tell |
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"What did he do
Where have you been??
He's been linked to the recently deceased and charged sexual predator Epstein in the USA, who also groomed young girls to "entertain" his wealthy male associates.
That includes Prince Andrew.
And trump, and bill clinton, and the saudi prince, kevin spacey and many other high up bankers and CEOs.
Which is why he didnt commit suicide and was killed.
As the entire circumstances around that nothing adds up.
He had too much on everyone which would have come out in the court.
Some people think hes not even dead and living life on a island or somthing and the whole story is a cover up.
Either way he definitely did not kill himself of that I'm certain.
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well for one the pic of him being removed from his cell, when put to an expert on facial expressions marks and positioning etc etc didn't match up to the most recent pic of the guy, and just like the Vegas shooting that story died way to quick whole thinks stinks fishy including Randy Andy's involvement, |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"I watched part of the programme and couldn't help feeling that his responses weren't as "natural" as I'd expect them to be.
I'd an uneasy feeling it was all too staged, that he'd been coached on how to respond, to within an inch of his life.
It came over too, as almost being arrogant to the allegations.
My impression too.
Funny, there haven't been many comments on this on social media etc but thousands of negative comments about Meghan spending Christmas with her mum."
Twitter has been awash for months |
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"Hes rich and privileged, to be honest I think they are all at it.
However, she says she was "seduced" by Prince Andrew, doesn't that mean she fell for him and was a willing participant with him?
I'm not talking about the Epstein part, just the HRH part."
First - she was under the age of consent so couldn’t legally have given valid consent.
Second - lots of abused and groomed children feel complicit in their abuse. They’re manipulated, controlled, coerced and rewarded in ways that encourage compliance. |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"Hes rich and privileged, to be honest I think they are all at it.
However, she says she was "seduced" by Prince Andrew, doesn't that mean she fell for him and was a willing participant with him?
I'm not talking about the Epstein part, just the HRH part.
First - she was under the age of consent so couldn’t legally have given valid consent.
Second - lots of abused and groomed children feel complicit in their abuse. They’re manipulated, controlled, coerced and rewarded in ways that encourage compliance. "
They are, I agree. However when I was around that age I fancied the pants of men of his age and would of if I had had the balls to flirt with them
Disclaimer....not denying people are groomed, just putting the other side to it |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Heres the thing. There is literally no way anyone walked into any of these events, homes, venues without being informed first as to what happens or what is going to happen or what does happen. If there ever was, that is a pretty shit job of the lawyers, security teams and assistants who work for any of the people who attend.
He may not have done anything physically, sure. But he knew what or could be happening. He has people dedicated to tell him that because that is their job.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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In one way it was a clever PR move to do this interview. If Andrew ever goes to court - here, or in the US, prosecutors will have to prove that witnesses or jury members did not see the interview and were possibly prejudiced by it. |
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"That includes Prince Andrew.
And trump, and bill clinton, and the saudi prince, kevin spacey and many other high up bankers and CEOs."
Epstein and Lord Peter 'Mandy' Mandleson
Epstein and Sarah Ferguson
Epstein and Ghislane Maxwell (Let’s not forget that Ghislaine’s father, Robert Maxwell accidentally fell off his yacht, and drowned, in 1991. After his death he was found to have misappropriated around £460,000,000 from the pension funds of his various companies including the The Daily Mirror. Sound chap he had been a Member of Parliament.)
Epstein and David Koch
Epstein and The New York Post reporter Larry Celona, who first broke the news of Epstein’s “suicide attempt,” his successful “suicide,” and the pictures of his bodyguard links to travel on Epstein's aircraft.
By sheer coincidence Larry Celona is an anagram of Royal Lancer. Guess who is the Deputy Colonel in Chief of the Royal Lancers?
It's amazing how all these rich and powerful people get together.
Other interesting things to learn about are Octopus PROMIS software and INSLAW software.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"That includes Prince Andrew.
And trump, and bill clinton, and the saudi prince, kevin spacey and many other high up bankers and CEOs.
Epstein and Lord Peter 'Mandy' Mandleson
Epstein and Sarah Ferguson
Epstein and Ghislane Maxwell (Let’s not forget that Ghislaine’s father, Robert Maxwell accidentally fell off his yacht, and drowned, in 1991. After his death he was found to have misappropriated around £460,000,000 from the pension funds of his various companies including the The Daily Mirror. Sound chap he had been a Member of Parliament.)
Epstein and David Koch
Epstein and The New York Post reporter Larry Celona, who first broke the news of Epstein’s “suicide attempt,” his successful “suicide,” and the pictures of his bodyguard links to travel on Epstein's aircraft.
By sheer coincidence Larry Celona is an anagram of Royal Lancer. Guess who is the Deputy Colonel in Chief of the Royal Lancers?
It's amazing how all these rich and powerful people get together.
Other interesting things to learn about are Octopus PROMIS software and INSLAW software.
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It’s really not that Interesting haha, if I was rich I would hang out with powerful and rich too |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It’s really not that Interesting haha, if I was rich I would hang out with powerful and rich too
We would love to hang out with Sir Philip Green."
I’ll mention it to him next time I’m chilling with him |
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"Since Epsteins death,the whole story went really quiet, which is odd as this story literally has the potential to be one of the biggest stories of all time, given it's scope. "
Very valid point
might not be quiet for a while since the infamous interview now |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Just so everyone knows.... Epstein was the first prisoner to die on suicide watch at the Manhattan detention center.....
This is the same prison that held El Chapo......
Now Prince Andrew says has never met the woman he is accused of having sex with at Epstein homes....
How come there are so many pictures of him with this young lady?
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By *otsossieMan
over a year ago
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It’s all shady as hell. The Epstein autopsy results show the hyoid bone was broken which (I read) is unusual in suicide but common in manual strangulation.
It’s usually mentioned in episodes of Bones  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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How come there are so many pictures of him with this young lady?
He says it is photo shopped and his fingers are chunkier. "
Awww , like after someone makes a offensive post on social media....
The go to line “ Someone broke into my account “
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I served in the Army, my brother flew rotary wing in the Navy before climbing the command ladder. He never served on the same vessel but would often meet him and knew him well.
He didn't have many positive comments to make. He once described him as completely selfish and entitled, every bit opinionated as his father without any of the humour and without a degree of sense of duty.
Some of the stories .... the man deserves no respect. |
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"one word of advice.... whichever of your PR "minions" suggested you do that interview... sack them!!
that was god awful..... seriously, what was anyone thinking...
WTF!!!!!! "
Yeah what a plonker. Lost all respect for him now and hope he gets what he deserves. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I didn't watch it and I'm not sure what it's all about. However if he is guilty of wrong doing, he will never get sentenced for it.
The Royal family will have the best lawyers in the world to get him off with it. |
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"It’s all shady as hell. The Epstein autopsy results show the hyoid bone was broken which (I read) is unusual in suicide but common in manual strangulation.
It’s usually mentioned in episodes of Bones "
Yeah i think he was murdered to be silenced |
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By *otsossieMan
over a year ago
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This is basically what happened with Epstein the first time.
They got him eventually, but there are so many powerful and/or mega-rich people implicated it’s impossible to predict how it’s going to play out. |
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Have been following the Epstein thing for quite a while now. Once you start going down the rabbit hole about this guy anything is possible. Everything has been written off as a conspiracy theory but the fact of the matter is when the rich and powerful are involved along with espionage etc anything and everything is possible. Things that seem incredible and impossible could be very true and because there are so many celebrities and high ranking people involved its all getting shoved under the rug. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Have been following the Epstein thing for quite a while now. Once you start going down the rabbit hole about this guy anything is possible. Everything has been written off as a conspiracy theory but the fact of the matter is when the rich and powerful are involved along with espionage etc anything and everything is possible. Things that seem incredible and impossible could be very true and because there are so many celebrities and high ranking people involved its all getting shoved under the rug. "
I'm sure it was all a misunderstanding and he's innocent. |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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The clip that I saw, he couldn't look the interviewer in the eye when he was answering the question.
The eyes were darting.
That's the body language of someone trying to remember something other than the truth.
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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"The clip that I saw, he couldn't look the interviewer in the eye when he was answering the question.
The eyes were darting.
That's the body language of someone trying to remember something other than the truth.
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Yes |
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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago
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"The clip that I saw, he couldn't look the interviewer in the eye when he was answering the question.
The eyes were darting.
That's the body language of someone trying to remember something other than the truth.
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I commented earlier on but missed on this aspect.
His Body Language was all over the place; it gave out negative signals, more so than his obviously coached verbal responses. |
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By *entenTeaCouple
over a year ago
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I've been following this story on various sites and other places. I belive the prince knew full well what Epstein was able to provide and availed him self of what was on offer, even or especially, the most tender and fresh of offerings.
As for Epstein, I get the impression his suicide was as much a surprise to him as it was to most other people. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Can you really experience so much adrenalin that you can't sweat? "
Without getting into the Andrew / Epstein debate as none of us know Jack Shit that actually happened but in answer to your point yes it can happen. Its one of the very many misunderstood and still evolving side effects of PTSD. In my case it was a total lack of belief in myself, a need to prove myself, aggressive arguing and Depression. Oh and OCD!
Just remember this man flew helicopters in the Falklands War and saw Exocets flying OVER his head when we were all told they were low level missiles. He was also one of the first helos on scene when the Sir Gallahad was bombed, caught fire and so many Welsh Guards were injured terribly. He would also have been ferrying dead and dying men from battle. Many came home with PTSD for less and this was before PTSD was properly understood. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"His medical condition has been disapproved by specialists.
It was a crass attempt to try and remind people he was a veteran imo.
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OK care to give some links and sources for your statement? Nothing crass about being a veteran either ffs
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"His medical condition has been disapproved by specialists.
It was a crass attempt to try and remind people he was a veteran imo.
OK care to give some links and sources for your statement? Nothing crass about being a veteran either ffs
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Where did I say there was something crass about being a veteran.
Read it again.
And google it. Everybody is tripping over themselves to research it at the moment.
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"His medical condition has been disapproved by specialists.
It was a crass attempt to try and remind people he was a veteran imo.
OK care to give some links and sources for your statement? Nothing crass about being a veteran either ffs
Where did I say there was something crass about being a veteran.
Read it again.
And google it. Everybody is tripping over themselves to research it at the moment.
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The picture editors immediately found sweaty pictures from the period in question. All with young women.
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"His medical condition has been disapproved by specialists.
It was a crass attempt to try and remind people he was a veteran imo.
OK care to give some links and sources for your statement? Nothing crass about being a veteran either ffs
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I thought he mentioned being a veteran just to change direction of the questions/conversation, regardless of the ins and outs of this dark side of his life he has pretty much led a double life. The courageous selfless veteran vs The ????(who really knows) BUT he was trying to deflect and I think it was pretty low to do that!
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"His medical condition has been disapproved by specialists.
It was a crass attempt to try and remind people he was a veteran imo.
OK care to give some links and sources for your statement? Nothing crass about being a veteran either ffs
I thought he mentioned being a veteran just to change direction of the questions/conversation, regardless of the ins and outs of this dark side of his life he has pretty much led a double life. The courageous selfless veteran vs The ????(who really knows) BUT he was trying to deflect and I think it was pretty low to do that!
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Exactly a very crass attempt. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"His medical condition has been disapproved by specialists.
It was a crass attempt to try and remind people he was a veteran imo.
OK care to give some links and sources for your statement? Nothing crass about being a veteran either ffs
I thought he mentioned being a veteran just to change direction of the questions/conversation, regardless of the ins and outs of this dark side of his life he has pretty much led a double life. The courageous selfless veteran vs The ????(who really knows) BUT he was trying to deflect and I think it was pretty low to do that!
Exactly a very crass attempt. "
100%
He just embarrassed himself I’m that interview!
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"Can you really experience so much adrenalin that you can't sweat?
Without getting into the Andrew / Epstein debate as none of us know Jack Shit that actually happened but in answer to your point yes it can happen. Its one of the very many misunderstood and still evolving side effects of PTSD. In my case it was a total lack of belief in myself, a need to prove myself, aggressive arguing and Depression. Oh and OCD!
Just remember this man flew helicopters in the Falklands War and saw Exocets flying OVER his head when we were all told they were low level missiles. He was also one of the first helos on scene when the Sir Gallahad was bombed, caught fire and so many Welsh Guards were injured terribly. He would also have been ferrying dead and dying men from battle. Many came home with PTSD for less and this was before PTSD was properly understood."
You believe this.
Seriously... this guy has never seen a minute anywhere near danger in his life. .
So many ways to fabricate all his heroics ....
Propaganda...
Body doubles and a lot more |
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"one word of advice.... whichever of your PR "minions" suggested you do that interview... sack them!!
that was god awful..... seriously, what was anyone thinking...
WTF!!!!!! "
I think he ignored the advice he was given. He's that arrogant. |
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The whole bit where he pretended to have to think if he was still suffering from this no sweat thing at that particular time.
If I'd have been accused, I'd know exactly if a 'medical condition' could get me off the hook and wouldn't have to be thinking about it mid-interview. |
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"Can you really experience so much adrenalin that you can't sweat? "
In a word, no. I served in the Falklands at the same time as him and definitely experienced more adrenaline than he did. He was there, but very well "looked after". I was there and wasn't. I still sweat...
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"I served in the Army, my brother flew rotary wing in the Navy before climbing the command ladder. He never served on the same vessel but would often meet him and knew him well.
He didn't have many positive comments to make. He once described him as completely selfish and entitled, every bit opinionated as his father without any of the humour and without a degree of sense of duty.
Some of the stories .... the man deserves no respect."
Yep my brother was a chief Petty officer - met him several times & said he was a total arsehole. As did most others he was serving with.
I believe he is guilty of what is being - haven't seen his interview but suspect he becomes across like the arrogant tosser he is |
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"It was excruciating viewing.
He didn't used to be able to sweat cuz he was in the Falklands?!
Read the reviews of Pizza Express Woking...they are hilarious. "
I don’t get it??? |
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By *amissCouple
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"Sadly this enforces the stereotypical view the royals are as thick as pig shit. Nobody with a modicum of intelligence would have done that interview. "
I don't think they should all be tarred with the same brush. I don't know whether he is thick or he just thinks he's untouchable, because of his arrogance. |
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And there was a point made over here on a political show that the only way the Queen signed Boris,s suspended government bill was to take the spot light of Randy Andy and the Royal Family, probably the same reason the ginger grandson was told to eat x mas dinner with the inlaws,, divert divert |
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"It was excruciating viewing.
He didn't used to be able to sweat cuz he was in the Falklands?!
Read the reviews of Pizza Express Woking...they are hilarious.
I don’t get it???"
That's where he said he was as an alibi. |
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"It was excruciating viewing.
He didn't used to be able to sweat cuz he was in the Falklands?!
Read the reviews of Pizza Express Woking...they are hilarious.
I don’t get it???"
He said he was in Pizza express in Woking with his daughter , when the alleged incident took place. |
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"Sadly this enforces the stereotypical view the royals are as thick as pig shit. Nobody with a modicum of intelligence would have done that interview.
I don't think they should all be tarred with the same brush. I don't know whether he is thick or he just thinks he's untouchable, because of his arrogance."
I think the three brothers are all of them are remedial at best the gene pool was low to end up with three dunces. |
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"It was excruciating viewing.
He didn't used to be able to sweat cuz he was in the Falklands?!
Read the reviews of Pizza Express Woking...they are hilarious.
I don’t get it???
That's where he said he was as an alibi."
Oh and are there reviews about him or something then?? |
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By *amissCouple
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"Sadly this enforces the stereotypical view the royals are as thick as pig shit. Nobody with a modicum of intelligence would have done that interview.
I don't think they should all be tarred with the same brush. I don't know whether he is thick or he just thinks he's untouchable, because of his arrogance.
I think the three brothers are all of them are remedial at best the gene pool was low to end up with three dunces. "
Gosh, well I don't know them personally ,but remedial sounds a bit strong. |
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"It was excruciating viewing.
He didn't used to be able to sweat cuz he was in the Falklands?!
Read the reviews of Pizza Express Woking...they are hilarious.
I don’t get it???
That's where he said he was as an alibi.
Oh and are there reviews about him or something then??"
I think the reviews are amusing takes on the situation |
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"It was excruciating viewing.
He didn't used to be able to sweat cuz he was in the Falklands?!
Read the reviews of Pizza Express Woking...they are hilarious.
I don’t get it???
That's where he said he was as an alibi.
Oh and are there reviews about him or something then??
I think the reviews are amusing takes on the situation "
Ah I see xxx thankyou |
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"It was excruciating viewing.
He didn't used to be able to sweat cuz he was in the Falklands?!
Read the reviews of Pizza Express Woking...they are hilarious.
I don’t get it???
That's where he said he was as an alibi."
Boris was in five guys, in Luton that night
He told me |
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By *ensualMan
over a year ago
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I find this thread rather curious.
Prince Andrew may, by reason of gossip and second hand reports and demeanor, be a tosser.
However has Prince Andrew been accused or charged by the New York police authorities of commiting an offence?
To put it another way, what criminal offence has he commited?
As I see it even if he had sex with 17 year old, it may be deeply inappropriate but not illegal in the UK.
Hence the angling by the woman involved lawyer for a trafficking offence.
Watching BBC's report I saw the lawyer for the woman at the centre of the matter angling for Prince Andrew to voluntarily enter a legal process that reduces people, whether innocent or guilty, who enter into it to mincemeat.
The following points come to my mind; firstly why is a civil lawyer getting involved in a criminal process. One would hazard the answer is to set Prince Andrew up for a civil case to sue for damages.
Secondly the civil lawyer gets a percentage of the civil damages or any settlement made to make an embarrasdong case go away.
I don't see the pursuit of Prince Andrew being about justice but about a pay day. Therefore I prefer to wait and see what the prosecuting authorities have to say about the matter. |
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"I find this thread rather curious.
Prince Andrew may, by reason of gossip and second hand reports and demeanor, be a tosser.
However has Prince Andrew been accused or charged by the New York police authorities of commiting an offence?
To put it another way, what criminal offence has he commited?
As I see it even if he had sex with 17 year old, it may be deeply inappropriate but not illegal in the UK.
Hence the angling by the woman involved lawyer for a trafficking offence.
Watching BBC's report I saw the lawyer for the woman at the centre of the matter angling for Prince Andrew to voluntarily enter a legal process that reduces people, whether innocent or guilty, who enter into it to mincemeat.
The following points come to my mind; firstly why is a civil lawyer getting involved in a criminal process. One would hazard the answer is to set Prince Andrew up for a civil case to sue for damages.
Secondly the civil lawyer gets a percentage of the civil damages or any settlement made to make an embarrasdong case go away.
I don't see the pursuit of Prince Andrew being about justice but about a pay day. Therefore I prefer to wait and see what the prosecuting authorities have to say about the matter."
I think you're probably right. I said further up the interview doesn't make him guilty of anything but it was a bad move on his part I think. |
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"I find this thread rather curious.
Prince Andrew may, by reason of gossip and second hand reports and demeanor, be a tosser.
However has Prince Andrew been accused or charged by the New York police authorities of commiting an offence?
To put it another way, what criminal offence has he commited?
As I see it even if he had sex with 17 year old, it may be deeply inappropriate but not illegal in the UK.
Hence the angling by the woman involved lawyer for a trafficking offence.
Watching BBC's report I saw the lawyer for the woman at the centre of the matter angling for Prince Andrew to voluntarily enter a legal process that reduces people, whether innocent or guilty, who enter into it to mincemeat.
The following points come to my mind; firstly why is a civil lawyer getting involved in a criminal process. One would hazard the answer is to set Prince Andrew up for a civil case to sue for damages.
Secondly the civil lawyer gets a percentage of the civil damages or any settlement made to make an embarrasdong case go away.
I don't see the pursuit of Prince Andrew being about justice but about a pay day. Therefore I prefer to wait and see what the prosecuting authorities have to say about the matter."
THIS!
A well written counterpoint to the comments on here. Some of which are downright libellous and Fabs may want to remember it is THEY who are publishing these comments.
This Thread epitomises why any man accused (lets me repeat this "ACCUSED") of a sexual crime is dead meat on social media like here. He is guilty before any charges are laid. He is destroyed by innuendo and inference and the conspiracy morons. To attempt a denial just confirms his guilt in the eyes of the judgmental.
He has not been interviewed, arrested let alone charged with any offence by any Police force or served papers by any Prosecuting body anywhere in the world. THAT is the simple legal and basic FACT!
He admitted still maintaining a friendship with Epstein was wrong, let everyone down and apologised. The rest he has denied right out as he should given he is currently INNOCENT! But being who he is and his position in the Royal Family this alone brings out the haters. |
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As I see it even if he had sex with 17 year old, it may be deeply inappropriate but not illegal in the UK.
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He was in the US, where the rules are different. When in Rome . . .
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He wasn't when the alleged incident first took place |
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"I find this thread rather curious.
Prince Andrew may, by reason of gossip and second hand reports and demeanor, be a tosser.
However has Prince Andrew been accused or charged by the New York police authorities of commiting an offence?
To put it another way, what criminal offence has he commited?
As I see it even if he had sex with 17 year old, it may be deeply inappropriate but not illegal in the UK.
Hence the angling by the woman involved lawyer for a trafficking offence.
Watching BBC's report I saw the lawyer for the woman at the centre of the matter angling for Prince Andrew to voluntarily enter a legal process that reduces people, whether innocent or guilty, who enter into it to mincemeat.
The following points come to my mind; firstly why is a civil lawyer getting involved in a criminal process. One would hazard the answer is to set Prince Andrew up for a civil case to sue for damages.
Secondly the civil lawyer gets a percentage of the civil damages or any settlement made to make an embarrasdong case go away.
I don't see the pursuit of Prince Andrew being about justice but about a pay day. Therefore I prefer to wait and see what the prosecuting authorities have to say about the matter.
THIS!
A well written counterpoint to the comments on here. Some of which are downright libellous and Fabs may want to remember it is THEY who are publishing these comments.
This Thread epitomises why any man accused (lets me repeat this "ACCUSED") of a sexual crime is dead meat on social media like here. He is guilty before any charges are laid. He is destroyed by innuendo and inference and the conspiracy morons. To attempt a denial just confirms his guilt in the eyes of the judgmental.
He has not been interviewed, arrested let alone charged with any offence by any Police force or served papers by any Prosecuting body anywhere in the world. THAT is the simple legal and basic FACT!
He admitted still maintaining a friendship with Epstein was wrong, let everyone down and apologised. The rest he has denied right out as he should given he is currently INNOCENT! But being who he is and his position in the Royal Family this alone brings out the haters."
Two excellent posts.
I hope I'm never in the dock with this lot ^^^ on the jury.
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"I find this thread rather curious.
Prince Andrew may, by reason of gossip and second hand reports and demeanor, be a tosser.
However has Prince Andrew been accused or charged by the New York police authorities of commiting an offence?
To put it another way, what criminal offence has he commited?
As I see it even if he had sex with 17 year old, it may be deeply inappropriate but not illegal in the UK.
Hence the angling by the woman involved lawyer for a trafficking offence.
Watching BBC's report I saw the lawyer for the woman at the centre of the matter angling for Prince Andrew to voluntarily enter a legal process that reduces people, whether innocent or guilty, who enter into it to mincemeat.
The following points come to my mind; firstly why is a civil lawyer getting involved in a criminal process. One would hazard the answer is to set Prince Andrew up for a civil case to sue for damages.
Secondly the civil lawyer gets a percentage of the civil damages or any settlement made to make an embarrasdong case go away.
I don't see the pursuit of Prince Andrew being about justice but about a pay day. Therefore I prefer to wait and see what the prosecuting authorities have to say about the matter.
THIS!
A well written counterpoint to the comments on here. Some of which are downright libellous and Fabs may want to remember it is THEY who are publishing these comments.
This Thread epitomises why any man accused (lets me repeat this "ACCUSED") of a sexual crime is dead meat on social media like here. He is guilty before any charges are laid. He is destroyed by innuendo and inference and the conspiracy morons. To attempt a denial just confirms his guilt in the eyes of the judgmental.
He has not been interviewed, arrested let alone charged with any offence by any Police force or served papers by any Prosecuting body anywhere in the world. THAT is the simple legal and basic FACT!
He admitted still maintaining a friendship with Epstein was wrong, let everyone down and apologised. The rest he has denied right out as he should given he is currently INNOCENT! But being who he is and his position in the Royal Family this alone brings out the haters."
Regarding your last line -Having a close personal relationship with a known and prolific child sex offender brought out the haters - NOT his family.
You may also want to see if the Prince has ever been accused/associated with anything similar in the past that wasn't as well published in the media.
He may be entirely innocent....
Like I've always said...let's WAIT before judging one way or the other
I said the same when 39 bodies were discovered in a trailer - I was mobbed telling me how brexit/British government were to blame for the victims of war fleeing a war zone!
Then we were told that they were Chinese - and the same group then mobbed me telling me they weren't victims of war, but victims of a massively oppressive Chinese government!
I didn't get mobbed when it was confirmed that they were in fact Vietnamese nationals, in fact all of the vocal posters of previous days, didn't comment at all.
Point of the story - don't go looking for guilt OR innocence, wait to find out facts! Then decide |
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By *ugby 123Couple
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I have managed to see it now. He did look uncomfortable at times and I cringed at some things but I am not sure how anyone could say he is guilty of what he is being accused of from the interview....in fact being accused of that would make an innocent person uncomfortable too.
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By *tew008Man
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No one can assert guilt from the interview. Anyone saying that is a lying cunt. Although the interview definitely showed his arrogance and lack of understanding.
Personally I didn’t really judge him before aside from the royals squashing the investigation 7 or 8 years ago. So due to his demeanor and shaky explanations he has given an impression of guilt. |
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"No one can assert guilt from the interview. Anyone saying that is a lying cunt. Although the interview definitely showed his arrogance and lack of understanding.
Personally I didn’t really judge him before aside from the royals squashing the investigation 7 or 8 years ago. So due to his demeanor and shaky explanations he has given an impression of guilt."
That isn't the only thing "squashed" for him over the years, which is what seems suspicious to me
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As I see it even if he had sex with 17 year old, it may be deeply inappropriate but not illegal in the UK.
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He was in the US, where the rules are different. When in Rome . . .
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In the US, the age of consent varies state by state, and has individual conditions in those states. Depending upon the comparative ages of the participants, the age of consent in Arkansas can be just 7 years old  |
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As I see it even if he had sex with 17 year old, it may be deeply inappropriate but not illegal in the UK.
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He was in the US, where the rules are different. When in Rome . . .
He wasn't when the alleged incident first took place"
Having had a nose about this, the legal age for sex is 17 in New York and 16 in the Virgin Islands, obviously 16 here.
Now I am not saying there was no grooming going on as we obviously don't know all the facts but if he did have sex with this woman it was legal at every place she said they did
However I think even legal age in some states is dependant on how much older the other person is as to whether it is legal or not |
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By *hechapMan
over a year ago
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The interview was for 1 purpose. It was to fool the fools a bit more and it worked as planned.
Any half wit with a brain cell would know that it was a big act. It was such a good act it came across as very poor acting which would be the plan all along.
Make your defence look ridiculous and the fools will believe you because they will think if you were guilty you would come up with a better defence or excuse...
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"Even if he was in Pizza Express Woking at 4 or 5pm, why couldn't he also be at Tramps in the early hours ? "
Oooh you should have been interviewing him. Gotcha RandyAndy! |
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, that's what we said.
It was laughable, are he and his advisors genuinely that far out of touch, do they really think we're that stupid?
