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"I won't be doing anything for CIN, I support children's charities in other ways" Us too. | |||
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"Well I raised 200quid upto now" well done! | |||
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"I'll be doing something. I'm sure my fellow minions will help me put something together. " spectacular! | |||
"I avoid it, I have never donated and never will, I’ve never watched it and never will. I object to the everyone donates attitude, it’s been all over Radio 2 this week. They try and shame you into donating and As a patron of a small local charity our revenue drops in November and doesn’t recover until February. It’s a constant challenge for us, we are just as deserving as children’s charities. We budget every year for a significant drop in donations in November but every year we run at a defecit whilst CIN grows with free advertising all over the BBC. That cannot be right." It's the BBC's charity. It started as a radio appeal in the 1920s. The appeal show has grown over the years to fundraising throughout the year but, for a week, its parent supports it across the piece. Well done for being a trustee AND for planning for this slump. You are doing better than most small charities who don't manage to have a regular monthly fundraising income. | |||
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"I avoid it, I have never donated and never will, I’ve never watched it and never will. I object to the everyone donates attitude, it’s been all over Radio 2 this week. They try and shame you into donating and As a patron of a small local charity our revenue drops in November and doesn’t recover until February. It’s a constant challenge for us, we are just as deserving as children’s charities. We budget every year for a significant drop in donations in November but every year we run at a defecit whilst CIN grows with free advertising all over the BBC. That cannot be right. It's the BBC's charity. It started as a radio appeal in the 1920s. The appeal show has grown over the years to fundraising throughout the year but, for a week, its parent supports it across the piece. Well done for being a trustee AND for planning for this slump. You are doing better than most small charities who don't manage to have a regular monthly fundraising income. " I understand that but suspect that the BBC doesnt cross charge for the advertising. Prime time Friday television plus a week long radio charity fest would decimate their income. If we advertise we pay the going rate, even in the local rag. Ideally I’d like a level playing field but that’s a dream. | |||
"Bought CIN jumpers for my kids for School and sending in money for non uniform day. What I don’t understand is why they set the minimum amount you can donate by phone/text to £10. Surely letting folks donate what they can afford would be better than setting it at a sum that some folk couldn’t afford? Better to give something than nothing surely? " You can donate less by text but you have to read the small print to see how. There is a number you can call to donate less, or more, than the preset amounts. | |||
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"Bought CIN jumpers for my kids for School and sending in money for non uniform day. What I don’t understand is why they set the minimum amount you can donate by phone/text to £10. Surely letting folks donate what they can afford would be better than setting it at a sum that some folk couldn’t afford? Better to give something than nothing surely? You can donate less by text but you have to read the small print to see how. There is a number you can call to donate less, or more, than the preset amounts. " Ahhh, I did not know that. Thank you. | |||
"I avoid it, I have never donated and never will, I’ve never watched it and never will. I object to the everyone donates attitude, it’s been all over Radio 2 this week. They try and shame you into donating and As a patron of a small local charity our revenue drops in November and doesn’t recover until February. It’s a constant challenge for us, we are just as deserving as children’s charities. We budget every year for a significant drop in donations in November but every year we run at a defecit whilst CIN grows with free advertising all over the BBC. That cannot be right. It's the BBC's charity. It started as a radio appeal in the 1920s. The appeal show has grown over the years to fundraising throughout the year but, for a week, its parent supports it across the piece. Well done for being a trustee AND for planning for this slump. You are doing better than most small charities who don't manage to have a regular monthly fundraising income. I understand that but suspect that the BBC doesnt cross charge for the advertising. Prime time Friday television plus a week long radio charity fest would decimate their income. If we advertise we pay the going rate, even in the local rag. Ideally I’d like a level playing field but that’s a dream. " The point I'm making is that it is BBC corporate charity. Just as the supermarkets, Greggs and others will advertise and fundraise for it by adopting it as their corporate charity without cross charging for that. There isn't a level playing field. Your charity can't do what CRUK can do on fundraising. I'm sure they are also envious that they can 'only' get Ch4 with SU4C. If you are a children's charity then you can apply to CiN or Comic Relief for funding. They aren't spending the donations on themselves but on the small charities, like yours, delivering the work. That's the model. They bring in the money in a way you can't. It's not mandatory to donate or to participate. | |||
"nothing, hate feeling preasured into donating to any charity, dont get me wrong i donate often to various charities, but i find something unsettling about the cin thing, and wander how much actualy goes to children, prefere to support local charities" All of it goes to the children's charities. The running costs come from the sales of products and interest on the amounts raised and held. They would be in breach of law to state it all goes to the causes if they used any for the overheads. | |||
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"Much as I applaud CIN, I think it's become a victim of it's own success. In recent years, especially on BBC Radio 2, there were Auctions for Things Money Can't Buy. EG, exotic holidays, crazy fun daytime or weekend events, personalised days out etc, for which those people with bags of money competed for. Meanwhile, those of is with FAR LESS money were totally outbid. Surely, it would've been fairer to have all contributors all put into a hat, regardless of how much was bid by each person, then it was luck to secure a big "prize". The CIN television spectacular has also become a Dance and Showtime extravaganza, which can be overbearing at times. Gone are the early days, when it was a balanced show, with a few sofas in the studio, guests dropping in ad hoc, and it was very much "live" and unpredictable television, compared to a scripted and planned to the minute show of now. I, like other posts on here, have worked with charities, who regrettably, see a marked dip in income after CIN has been on. Maybe, the CIN administration could look at channeling some of the funds raised via their campaign to those charities adversely affected. Equally, the stars and celebs who spout platitudes as well as trying to prise more money out of us are contributing exactly what? Just their time? Or are they giving up their fees, or a payment from their flashy salaries? What are they contributing compared to some OAP or someone on benefits who has given £1 from their meagre monthly income? " If you go onto their website and click on the Changing Lives section you can see a map that shows ALL the projects that have received money. I don't give to ANY large appeal without checking out the information that is freely available on the Charity Commission website and the charity website. It's how I get to be an annoying know it all on here about these things. I don't doubt that there will be some Zelebs that give their time in order to get the exposure to boost their careers. I also KNOW some throw themselves into it, giving their time, that of their staff teams and give generously. I know this because I've met and spoken to some that do. It's not an either or between them and the OAP who chooses to donate £1 or £5. The OAP may have made the donation because Michael Ball sang a song. | |||
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"Much as I applaud CIN, I think it's become a victim of it's own success. In recent years, especially on BBC Radio 2, there were Auctions for Things Money Can't Buy. EG, exotic holidays, crazy fun daytime or weekend events, personalised days out etc, for which those people with bags of money competed for. Meanwhile, those of is with FAR LESS money were totally outbid. Surely, it would've been fairer to have all contributors all put into a hat, regardless of how much was bid by each person, then it was luck to secure a big "prize". The CIN television spectacular has also become a Dance and Showtime extravaganza, which can be overbearing at times. Gone are the early days, when it was a balanced show, with a few sofas in the studio, guests dropping in ad hoc, and it was very much "live" and unpredictable television, compared to a scripted and planned to the minute show of now. I, like other posts on here, have worked with charities, who regrettably, see a marked dip in income after CIN has been on. Maybe, the CIN administration could look at channeling some of the funds raised via their campaign to those charities adversely affected. Equally, the stars and celebs who spout platitudes as well as trying to prise more money out of us are contributing exactly what? Just their time? Or are they giving up their fees, or a payment from their flashy salaries? What are they contributing compared to some OAP or someone on benefits who has given £1 from their meagre monthly income? If you go onto their website and click on the Changing Lives section you can see a map that shows ALL the projects that have received money. I don't give to ANY large appeal without checking out the information that is freely available on the Charity Commission website and the charity website. It's how I get to be an annoying know it all on here about these things. I don't doubt that there will be some Zelebs that give their time in order to get the exposure to boost their careers. I also KNOW some throw themselves into it, giving their time, that of their staff teams and give generously. I know this because I've met and spoken to some that do. It's not an either or between them and the OAP who chooses to donate £1 or £5. The OAP may have made the donation because Michael Ball sang a song. " Facts are irrelevant. People know what they know. Celebs and rich people don't ever give money or time to charity. Only normal commoners have hearts. Charities take all the money and give it to the rich owners. The kids don't get a penny, never ever. People know this to be true. (This is sarcasm) | |||
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"I've worn my Pudsey onesie every year on CIN day since the late 80s Doesn't matter where I am, or what I'm doing. I wear it. This will be the first year I won't. Doesn't seem appropriate for a funeral " | |||
"The point I'm making is that it is BBC corporate charity. Just as the supermarkets, Greggs and others will advertise and fundraise for it by adopting it as their corporate charity without cross charging for that. There isn't a level playing field. Your charity can't do what CRUK can do on fundraising. I'm sure they are also envious that they can 'only' get Ch4 with SU4C. If you are a children's charity then you can apply to CiN or Comic Relief for funding. They aren't spending the donations on themselves but on the small charities, like yours, delivering the work. That's the model. They bring in the money in a way you can't. It's not mandatory to donate or to participate. This ^^ I don't have a tv so have always missed it and don't actually mind but I do contribute to any friend that is raising money willingly You can access where all the money goes easily on line too ... rather than moaning! " | |||
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"I donate to other charities. I stopped donating to CIN after what was revealed about saville. The BBC covered it up for years through a culture of fear and ruined anyone who dare tried to speak out. If someone wants to donate, good for them but for me the BBC were complicit in Protecting a monster and have a cheek to ask for donations in the name of children." Exactly the same point raised by someone we spoke to earlier today. They were still covering it up while they were running CiN and Sir Jimmy was working for them. | |||
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"I am as miserable, miserley and anti charity as they come. When doorsteppers ask me to donate I don't let them finish a sentence before I slam the door... But Yesterday evening, the bell sounded for my gates and on the camera there were two girls sharing an umbrella and it was pissing down. They were selling home made cupcakes. They got my pound. Good on them for their effort. The CIN Grinch thawed for a moment " | |||
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"Getting on for £48m raised, by ordinary people, to support organisations who are, in many cases, replacing services cut by this government. A government that has just wasted £100m advertising a Brexit everyone knew was not going to happen. Can someone explain the logic please? " The research shows the charity 'replacement' doesn't even come near to what a local authority has to spend on children's services. The fact that it's being use to patch what should be provided means that there is an overall reduction and, with the best will in the world, the charity adding something additional to make the basic service good has been lost. | |||
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"Read all the comments and personally I still believe that children in need, comic relief etc are a good thing! As well as raising far more money than the charities and organisations they support could raise alone - they raise awareness of the problems that many face alone, in the privacy of their homes - like sickness, poverty, grief, loneliness, mental illness etc - and worse still those suffering on our streets! Sometimes we all need a wake up call as to just what’s going on in the world outside - and a reminder that we should all be part of the solution - not the problem! I happily donate to children in need, comic relief and other tv fundraising appeals - and will do for as long as I can afford to. What others choose to do is entirely up to them! " I used to just watch the show on telly and didn't consider it much beyond that. Then I volunteered for a charity working with children in very specific circumstances (I won't say what). The project I was volunteering on was possible only because of CiN funding, they told me. They'd been trying to set up the project and failing to get local people to donate, except in really small amounts that didn't come to enough to do the work. It changed me view about how the money is used. | |||