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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
Who will wear? Who won't? Who will wear a white one? Or the one for animals who died? Will the poppy police be out in force ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The poppy police? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I will wear a red one as always. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Nothing wrong with buying or wearing a poppy. It’s not hurting anyone. Unless of course, you’ve stabbed it into their chest lol |
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I have my 2019 enamel pin
I prefer them over the paper poppies |
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By *rAitchMan
over a year ago
Diagonally Parked in a Parallel Universe |
I wear a poppy wristband, as well as a Help for Heroes wristband, all year round. I've just bought an enamel poppy pin badge for my jacket. |
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I’ve been wearing mine for the last two weeks |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'll wear one on the day when I head out to local memorial, one each for my boys, for whenever they'd like to wear it. Mine will come off the second I walk away from the memorial though. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"The poppy police?"
Those who criticise the non wearers... |
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I will wear a red one, as I do every year  |
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By *uxom redCouple
over a year ago
Shrewsbury |
I wear mine, got an enamel pin one for work and if I'm told I can't wear it at work they will see what an angry menopausal ex forces woman can do! |
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Red one for me.
If there is one for the animals that got killed I would wear that as well.
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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago
Maldon and Peterborough |
I shall be wearing one with pride. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Will proudly wear our red ones. |
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By *Man1263Man
over a year ago
Stockport |
Of course.
It mean's alot to me, however, it's not the only time I remember those (both human and animal) who have died and suffered (and suffer).
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By *Man1263Man
over a year ago
Stockport |
"Red one for me.
If there is one for the animals that got killed I would wear that as well.
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Purple Poppy
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'd wear a white one, but it attracts more negativity than I'm prepared to deal with at this time of the year. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I am wearing one and it will be red. I don't understand the white ones, they are not a symbol of or "glorifying" war they are a symbol of remembrance. |
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My lad has a new enamel one every year and I buy the larger brooch style every year. Mine stays on for another 10 days past Remembrance Day to honour the date in November the last of my relatives died in war |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I am wearing one and it will be red. I don't understand the white ones, they are not a symbol of or "glorifying" war they are a symbol of remembrance. "
The white ones are a symbol of pacifism |
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"I'd wear a white one, but it attracts more negativity than I'm prepared to deal with at this time of the year."
It’s a shame in this day and age people cannot respect each other’s preferences of which they choose to wear, or not wear. |
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I'm in no way against them but I haven't worn one since high school. It just doesn't sit right with me and I can't quite put my finger on exactly why. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Red one for me.
If there is one for the animals that got killed I would wear that as well.
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I saw some wearing a white, red and purple one the other day. I liked that. |
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I will wear one and I really couldn’t care less who it offends |
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"Red one for me.
If there is one for the animals that got killed I would wear that as well.
I saw some wearing a white, red and purple one the other day. I liked that. "
It’s not a fashion statement  |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
Bristol East |
I donated to the appeal.
I don't take a poppy and I don't wear one.
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By *a LunaWoman
over a year ago
South Wales |
I’ll wear one or my Grampy will haunt me. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I am wearing one and it will be red. I don't understand the white ones, they are not a symbol of or "glorifying" war they are a symbol of remembrance.
The white ones are a symbol of pacifism "
Yes I understand that but I don't really understand the need. I'm a pacifist but as I don't the see the red poppy as a symbol of war I don't see the need to wear a white one. |
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By *Man1263Man
over a year ago
Stockport |
"I am wearing one and it will be red. I don't understand the white ones, they are not a symbol of or "glorifying" war they are a symbol of remembrance.
The white ones are a symbol of pacifism "
And could always wear together with the Red one.
The white one's are meant to represent remembrance for all victims of war, a commitment to peace and a challenge to attempts to glamorise or celebrate war.
So if you have a white one, wear the Red one at the same time, and both with pride!
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I will wear one and I really couldn’t care less who it offends "
Why would it offend someone? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Red one for me.
If there is one for the animals that got killed I would wear that as well.
I saw some wearing a white, red and purple one the other day. I liked that.
It’s not a fashion statement "
It wasn't meant to be. The red was for remembrance, white for peace and purple for animals killed in war. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I wear mine, got an enamel pin one for work and if I'm told I can't wear it at work they will see what an angry menopausal ex forces woman can do!"
Why would your employers tell you you can't wear one? |
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"I am wearing one and it will be red. I don't understand the white ones, they are not a symbol of or "glorifying" war they are a symbol of remembrance. "
No, the red shouldn't be. But like many things, e.g. The Union flag, some people project a meaning onto them.
It's why I only wear one on the 11th (and Remembrance Sunday).
It's a personal thing, and I don't care whether other people choose to wear one or not.
But I don't care for people judging others for their choice (in either case).
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I am wearing one and it will be red. I don't understand the white ones, they are not a symbol of or "glorifying" war they are a symbol of remembrance. "
I get people who dont understand what they mean ask me about it.
It's for pacifism, anti-war.
For those of us who want no part of any of the glorification that comes with the main day,which is supposed to bd about Remembering the Dead, in order that none of this happens again.
There is a lot of glorification on Remembrance Day. Maybe not by the masses, maybe not intentionally, but it happens.
Wearing something like a white poppy drags me into conversations I'd rather not have.
I don't like talking to anyone that day as it is. |
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Poppy worn with pride and in honour of those whom we should never forget. |
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Lots off lampposts and road signs wearing them (red)here in South Wales, anywhere else? |
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By *modDMan
over a year ago
Lichfield |
"Who will wear? Who won't? Who will wear a white one? Or the one for animals who died? Will the poppy police be out in force ?"
The people who want to wear one will, those don’t, won’t.
I’m not really sure why it’s such an issue every year. In fact, I don’t think it was in the days before social networks but now there are those who wish to make a hero out of themselves in a different way.
I think we should have a poppy for all the internet heroes, a brown one of course. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I am wearing one and it will be red. I don't understand the white ones, they are not a symbol of or "glorifying" war they are a symbol of remembrance.
The white ones are a symbol of pacifism
And could always wear together with the Red one.
The white one's are meant to represent remembrance for all victims of war, a commitment to peace and a challenge to attempts to glamorise or celebrate war.
So if you have a white one, wear the Red one at the same time, and both with pride!
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No. Definitely not with pride. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Lots off lampposts and road signs wearing them (red)here in South Wales, anywhere else?"
Yes in a few parts of London and Essex. |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
Bristol East |
What do people do with them when Nov 11 is over?
Put them in the bucket or recycle them?
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By *uxom redCouple
over a year ago
Shrewsbury |
"I wear mine, got an enamel pin one for work and if I'm told I can't wear it at work they will see what an angry menopausal ex forces woman can do!
Why would your employers tell you you can't wear one?"
Food hygiene, incase it falls into food, I have the argument about wearing one every year... I always wear one on my hat. |
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By *Man1263Man
over a year ago
Stockport |
"I am wearing one and it will be red. I don't understand the white ones, they are not a symbol of or "glorifying" war they are a symbol of remembrance.
I get people who dont understand what they mean ask me about it.
It's for pacifism, anti-war.
For those of us who want no part of any of the glorification that comes with the main day,which is supposed to bd about Remembering the Dead, in order that none of this happens again.
There is a lot of glorification on Remembrance Day. Maybe not by the masses, maybe not intentionally, but it happens.
Wearing something like a white poppy drags me into conversations I'd rather not have.
I don't like talking to anyone that day as it is. "
The white poppy is not about anti-war.
You can be a pacifist and still take part in war.
At the same time, you can be a pacifist and still wear the Red poppy.
It's the thought, not the showing that should count.
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"I am wearing one and it will be red. I don't understand the white ones, they are not a symbol of or "glorifying" war they are a symbol of remembrance.
The white ones are a symbol of pacifism
And could always wear together with the Red one.
The white one's are meant to represent remembrance for all victims of war, a commitment to peace and a challenge to attempts to glamorise or celebrate war.
So if you have a white one, wear the Red one at the same time, and both with pride!
No. Definitely not with pride."
Yes, wouldn't it be better to have nothing like that to commemorate rate?
The world would be a far better place. |
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By *Man1263Man
over a year ago
Stockport |
"What do people do with them when Nov 11 is over?
Put them in the bucket or recycle them?
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I keep all mine, they go in a box, together with my clay ones
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I am wearing one and it will be red. I don't understand the white ones, they are not a symbol of or "glorifying" war they are a symbol of remembrance.
The white ones are a symbol of pacifism
And could always wear together with the Red one.
The white one's are meant to represent remembrance for all victims of war, a commitment to peace and a challenge to attempts to glamorise or celebrate war.
So if you have a white one, wear the Red one at the same time, and both with pride!
No. Definitely not with pride."
I totally understand that there are negative connotations with both. Its my personal preference to wear a red one. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I am wearing one and it will be red. I don't understand the white ones, they are not a symbol of or "glorifying" war they are a symbol of remembrance.
I get people who dont understand what they mean ask me about it.
It's for pacifism, anti-war.
For those of us who want no part of any of the glorification that comes with the main day,which is supposed to bd about Remembering the Dead, in order that none of this happens again.
There is a lot of glorification on Remembrance Day. Maybe not by the masses, maybe not intentionally, but it happens.
Wearing something like a white poppy drags me into conversations I'd rather not have.
I don't like talking to anyone that day as it is.
The white poppy is not about anti-war.
You can be a pacifist and still take part in war.
At the same time, you can be a pacifist and still wear the Red poppy.
It's the thought, not the showing that should count.
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Ok, you clearly know more than I do. I'm out. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I wear mine, got an enamel pin one for work and if I'm told I can't wear it at work they will see what an angry menopausal ex forces woman can do!
Why would your employers tell you you can't wear one?"
Exactly. Theres plenty of rubbish on social media claiming people are vilified for wearing a poppy.
I've never heard anyone in person complain or even read an article in a newspaper criticising them.
It's a remembrance symbol and a mark of respect. |
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"I am wearing one and it will be red. I don't understand the white ones, they are not a symbol of or "glorifying" war they are a symbol of remembrance.
I get people who dont understand what they mean ask me about it.
It's for pacifism, anti-war.
For those of us who want no part of any of the glorification that comes with the main day,which is supposed to bd about Remembering the Dead, in order that none of this happens again.
There is a lot of glorification on Remembrance Day. Maybe not by the masses, maybe not intentionally, but it happens.
Wearing something like a white poppy drags me into conversations I'd rather not have.
I don't like talking to anyone that day as it is.
The white poppy is not about anti-war.
You can be a pacifist and still take part in war.
At the same time, you can be a pacifist and still wear the Red poppy.
It's the thought, not the showing that should count.
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Surely by definition a pacifist would not willingly take part in a war? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Pride? Unless you were there you've no right to feel proud about something you've had no hand in. If you had you may not feel so proud about what you achieved.
It's about Remembrance, not Pride.
Now I'm out. Done and dusted, no comment on poppies anywhere till the days been and gone. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I wear mine, got an enamel pin one for work and if I'm told I can't wear it at work they will see what an angry menopausal ex forces woman can do!
Why would your employers tell you you can't wear one?
Exactly. Theres plenty of rubbish on social media claiming people are vilified for wearing a poppy.
I've never heard anyone in person complain or even read an article in a newspaper criticising them.
It's a remembrance symbol and a mark of respect. "
Umm weren't the England football team told they couldn't wear them last year? |
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By *uxom redCouple
over a year ago
Shrewsbury |
"I wear mine, got an enamel pin one for work and if I'm told I can't wear it at work they will see what an angry menopausal ex forces woman can do!
Why would your employers tell you you can't wear one?
Exactly. Theres plenty of rubbish on social media claiming people are vilified for wearing a poppy.
I've never heard anyone in person complain or even read an article in a newspaper criticising them.
It's a remembrance symbol and a mark of respect. "
As I posted about food hygiene. |
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"I am wearing one and it will be red. I don't understand the white ones, they are not a symbol of or "glorifying" war they are a symbol of remembrance.
I get people who dont understand what they mean ask me about it.
It's for pacifism, anti-war.
For those of us who want no part of any of the glorification that comes with the main day,which is supposed to bd about Remembering the Dead, in order that none of this happens again.
There is a lot of glorification on Remembrance Day. Maybe not by the masses, maybe not intentionally, but it happens.
Wearing something like a white poppy drags me into conversations I'd rather not have.
I don't like talking to anyone that day as it is.
The white poppy is not about anti-war.
You can be a pacifist and still take part in war.
At the same time, you can be a pacifist and still wear the Red poppy.
It's the thought, not the showing that should count.
Surely by definition a pacifist would not willingly take part in a war?
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Certainly not to take up arms, many preffered to go to prison during conscription.
But then a fair few also served as medics etc. |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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Umm weren't the England football team told they couldn't wear them last year? "
I believe the international football authority is very strict about keeping anything political out of the football arena.
War by definition occurs because of a failure of politics.
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"Pride? Unless you were there you've no right to feel proud about something you've had no hand in. If you had you may not feel so proud about what you achieved.
It's about Remembrance, not Pride.
Now I'm out. Done and dusted, no comment on poppies anywhere till the days been and gone. "
It feels somewhat feeble and insufficient but sending hugs. |
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By *Man1263Man
over a year ago
Stockport |
"I am wearing one and it will be red. I don't understand the white ones, they are not a symbol of or "glorifying" war they are a symbol of remembrance.
I get people who dont understand what they mean ask me about it.
It's for pacifism, anti-war.
For those of us who want no part of any of the glorification that comes with the main day,which is supposed to bd about Remembering the Dead, in order that none of this happens again.
There is a lot of glorification on Remembrance Day. Maybe not by the masses, maybe not intentionally, but it happens.
Wearing something like a white poppy drags me into conversations I'd rather not have.
I don't like talking to anyone that day as it is.
The white poppy is not about anti-war.
You can be a pacifist and still take part in war.
At the same time, you can be a pacifist and still wear the Red poppy.
It's the thought, not the showing that should count.
Surely by definition a pacifist would not willingly take part in a war? "
Why?
Can a pacifist not help those wounded without taking part in the fighting?
So if your a medic can you not join up and help but not take an active part in the fighting?
So yes, you can be a pacifist and actually disagree with conflict but still help
Which is why I have no problem with the White Poppy, the Poppy isn't, and never should be, political.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Umm weren't the England football team told they couldn't wear them last year?
I believe the international football authority is very strict about keeping anything political out of the football arena.
War by definition occurs because of a failure of politics.
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Yes but wasn't it overturned as it is seen as a sign of remembrance not as a political statement? |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
Bristol East |
Yes, I think they backed down. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
Hacksaw Ridge is a movie about a pacifist who became a medic.. amazing story |
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I buy on the day, or if I see an old boy selling one and then wear it on the day. It's red the same colour I've always worn. I don't get into the politics of wearing one or not, white, red as I don't particularly care. I'll go to my local service come home have a mince pie and a coffee, my routine since I was a boy. |
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By *Man1263Man
over a year ago
Stockport |
"Pride? Unless you were there you've no right to feel proud about something you've had no hand in. If you had you may not feel so proud about what you achieved.
It's about Remembrance, not Pride.
Now I'm out. Done and dusted, no comment on poppies anywhere till the days been and gone. "
Of course I have pride, I have pride in my Corp, I have pride in the unit's I served, I have pride in my Country.
So I wear my Poppy with pride.
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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago
Liverpool |
Does it really matter?
We all have our own reasons for doing or wearing something. You will ALWAYS get somebody who will get offended and fucking love to shove their opinion down your throat then pull it out your arse and force feed it to you again about why you should, or should not.
Wear whatever colour poppy you want, wear it for the reasons you want. Or don't for whatever reasons. You know your reasons for your choice.
So many well meaning symbols and gestures get torn to pieces these days because somebody (or a group) disagrees with it. Loving to demonise either side for their choices. |
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"I will wear one and I really couldn’t care less who it offends
Why would it offend someone?"
Exactly |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Red one for me.
If there is one for the animals that got killed I would wear that as well.
I saw some wearing a white, red and purple one the other day. I liked that.
It’s not a fashion statement "
She never said it looked good, she said she liked it. I suspect it was the fact the person was reflecting all forms of remembrance. |
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By *Man1263Man
over a year ago
Stockport |
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Umm weren't the England football team told they couldn't wear them last year?
I believe the international football authority is very strict about keeping anything political out of the football arena.
War by definition occurs because of a failure of politics.
Yes but wasn't it overturned as it is seen as a sign of remembrance not as a political statement? "
Yes, overturned because the Poppy is not Political.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I have my 2019 enamel pin
I prefer them over the paper poppies "
Me too! Wearing with pride!! |
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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago
Liverpool |
"I will wear one and I really couldn’t care less who it offends
Why would it offend someone?
Exactly "
Because there are people that get offended about things they don't agree with. Not just disagree, but they go beyond disagreement and love to take it to the next level by being offended. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
Dome have been villified for refusing to wear a poppy during a match |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Red one for me.
If there is one for the animals that got killed I would wear that as well.
I saw some wearing a white, red and purple one the other day. I liked that.
It’s not a fashion statement
She never said it looked good, she said she liked it. I suspect it was the fact the person was reflecting all forms of remembrance. "
In a nutshell. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Dome have been villified for refusing to wear a poppy during a match "
I don't think anyone should be vilified if they chose not to wear one same as if they do. It's what sits right with the individual that counts. |
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"Dome have been villified for refusing to wear a poppy during a match
I don't think anyone should be vilified if they chose not to wear one same as if they do. It's what sits right with the individual that counts.
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100% but it doesn't work like that. Our society is very divided at present, and the poppy is used as a potent symbol of "Britishness".
An example, can you imagine the furore if Jeremy Corbyn (pretty much a life long pacifist) actually chose to wear a white poppy?
The Daily Mail would be inciting people to shoot him!
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I get one if I see a poppy seller, but I genuinely haven't seen one in 3 years. |
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"Red one for me.
If there is one for the animals that got killed I would wear that as well.
I saw some wearing a white, red and purple one the other day. I liked that.
It’s not a fashion statement
She never said it looked good, she said she liked it. I suspect it was the fact the person was reflecting all forms of remembrance. "
What form of remembrance does the white one represent? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Red one for me.
If there is one for the animals that got killed I would wear that as well.
I saw some wearing a white, red and purple one the other day. I liked that.
It’s not a fashion statement
She never said it looked good, she said she liked it. I suspect it was the fact the person was reflecting all forms of remembrance.
What form of remembrance does the white one represent?"
It represents pantheism. Also Iv heard people say that it represents civilian casualtys of war but I'm not sure if many think that way or not. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Will wear mine with pride,like I do every year |
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By *Man1263Man
over a year ago
Stockport |
"Red one for me.
If there is one for the animals that got killed I would wear that as well.
I saw some wearing a white, red and purple one the other day. I liked that.
It’s not a fashion statement
She never said it looked good, she said she liked it. I suspect it was the fact the person was reflecting all forms of remembrance.
What form of remembrance does the white one represent?"
Their intention was to remember casualties of all wars, with the added meaning of a hope for the end of all wars.
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
I think it should just be worn on the day. Fed up with TV presenters wearing them weeks in advance to court approval |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Dome have been villified for refusing to wear a poppy during a match
I don't think anyone should be vilified if they chose not to wear one same as if they do. It's what sits right with the individual that counts.
100% but it doesn't work like that. Our society is very divided at present, and the poppy is used as a potent symbol of "Britishness".
An example, can you imagine the furore if Jeremy Corbyn (pretty much a life long pacifist) actually chose to wear a white poppy?
The Daily Mail would be inciting people to shoot him!
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But to play devils advocate:
Why wear a white one during remembrance when clearly the red poppy symbolises just that?
The white poppy is fine, but cant it have it's own day without trying to detract? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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over a year ago
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"Red one for me.
If there is one for the animals that got killed I would wear that as well.
I saw some wearing a white, red and purple one the other day. I liked that.
It’s not a fashion statement
She never said it looked good, she said she liked it. I suspect it was the fact the person was reflecting all forms of remembrance.
In a nutshell. "
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"Red one for me.
If there is one for the animals that got killed I would wear that as well.
I saw some wearing a white, red and purple one the other day. I liked that.
It’s not a fashion statement
She never said it looked good, she said she liked it. I suspect it was the fact the person was reflecting all forms of remembrance.
What form of remembrance does the white one represent?
It represents pantheism. Also Iv heard people say that it represents civilian casualtys of war but I'm not sure if many think that way or not. "
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I've spent the last 2wks, out everyday selling them
I wear mine with extreme pride |
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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago
Liverpool |
"I think it should just be worn on the day. Fed up with TV presenters wearing them weeks in advance to court approval "
I don't see why that is an issue at all. Just ignore it.
Different if attention is brought to it, and they make a point of blatant showing it off.
They are showing their respect in their own way, their belief and reason for doing so is theirs.
It is a harmless visual symbol.
Sure there are people out their that will use it as some sort of fashion statement or trend. Happens with everything. |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
Bristol East |
Walking home from the bus stop in Bristol this evening, I passed a fire engine with a large red poppy attached to its front grill.
I was a bit puzzled to begin with as to why. Until I remembered an awful lot of fire-fighters must have died in fires caused by war, too.
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"Dome have been villified for refusing to wear a poppy during a match
I don't think anyone should be vilified if they chose not to wear one same as if they do. It's what sits right with the individual that counts.
100% but it doesn't work like that. Our society is very divided at present, and the poppy is used as a potent symbol of "Britishness".
An example, can you imagine the furore if Jeremy Corbyn (pretty much a life long pacifist) actually chose to wear a white poppy?
The Daily Mail would be inciting people to shoot him!
But to play devils advocate:
Why wear a white one during remembrance when clearly the red poppy symbolises just that?
The white poppy is fine, but cant it have it's own day without trying to detract?
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Detract? How does showing respect in a different way detract?
OK, then not wear one at all. But still be there and lay a wreath etc.
As I said, it's a powerful tool, particularly with an election looming. I predict that a right wing newspaper will find something to fault him on the day for.
Poppy too small.
Raincoat too scruffy.
Etc.
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I will wear one, my dad was a para in the 6th airbourne - he survived Pegasus bridge a lot of his friends and one of his brothers didn't. Dad is long gone too now (he would have been over 100 years old - he had me late before anyone does the maths) but I will always remember him and the friends he lost.
He wore his always in remembrance of all who died (and he always said whichever side they were on the deserved remembrance).
So I will wear mine ! I respect anyone who chooses not too for what ever reason - I don't agree but I respect ! |
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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago
Liverpool |
"Dome have been villified for refusing to wear a poppy during a match
I don't think anyone should be vilified if they chose not to wear one same as if they do. It's what sits right with the individual that counts.
100% but it doesn't work like that. Our society is very divided at present, and the poppy is used as a potent symbol of "Britishness".
An example, can you imagine the furore if Jeremy Corbyn (pretty much a life long pacifist) actually chose to wear a white poppy?
The Daily Mail would be inciting people to shoot him!
But to play devils advocate:
Why wear a white one during remembrance when clearly the red poppy symbolises just that?
The white poppy is fine, but cant it have it's own day without trying to detract?"
I partially agree.
In a way that, as I have mentioned in my previous comments. There are people who LOVE to attach their own negatives to a symbol that has different beliefs for different people.
For some the red is about rememberence. For some it is about respect. For some it's just tradition. For some it is glorifying war. For some... Etc. This is then how we end up with all these different colours further dividing people. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
Who knows what Jeremy is really thinking... ?
I wonder if he is as dangerous as they say....? |
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over a year ago
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"I have my 2019 enamel pin
I prefer them over the paper poppies "
Me too |
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By *Man1263Man
over a year ago
Stockport |
"Walking home from the bus stop in Bristol this evening, I passed a fire engine with a large red poppy attached to its front grill.
I was a bit puzzled to begin with as to why. Until I remembered an awful lot of fire-fighters must have died in fires caused by war, too.
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Like many a place (entire post room's left and joined up in the Great War for instance) the Fire Service has lost a great many due to conflict. And a great many served in conflict's.
So no puzzle at all, I would be more puzzled at them not having any poppy at all!
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"I will wear a red one as always. "
We both will too, as always. A mark of respect and remembrance. |
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By *uxom redCouple
over a year ago
Shrewsbury |
"I think it should just be worn on the day. Fed up with TV presenters wearing them weeks in advance to court approval "
I wear one on my coat all year you'd hate me. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I have a couple of knitted ones which I like to wear. And always buy more for kids. They lose it every year. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"I think it should just be worn on the day. Fed up with TV presenters wearing them weeks in advance to court approval
I wear one on my coat all year you'd hate me. "
I really wouldn't. I just think they are frightened to be seen without one. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Always do, bloody do-gooders pc brigade need to pull their self righteous fingers out of their arses. "
I dont understand the point you are trying to make? Where do the bloody do goodies PC brigade come in to things and why are they being self-righteous |
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I wear a white one. It kinda amuses me when people get all worked-up about it, or imply it's some new craze.
They've been around a while. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I will wear my RAF Firefighting poppy |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Hubby was 26 years in the forces it's a mark of respect.. |
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By *uxom redCouple
over a year ago
Shrewsbury |
"I think it should just be worn on the day. Fed up with TV presenters wearing them weeks in advance to court approval
I wear one on my coat all year you'd hate me.
I really wouldn't. I just think they are frightened to be seen without one."
On television probably |
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"But to play devils advocate:
Why wear a white one during remembrance when clearly the red poppy symbolises just that?
The white poppy is fine, but cant it have it's own day without trying to detract?"
How does the white poppy detract?
And can there not be more than 1 way to remember? |
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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago
Hull |
I always wear mine each year.
Plus, I buy additional Poppy themed gifts, or Promotional items, to boost their coffers. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
To be honest at every minutes silence I just think what a waste of life.. and for what..
To keep the Toffs ...
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Red, any other colour is just snowflake bullshit. The Red Poppy is a memorial to everyone, regardless of Country, Faith, Colour or Creed who have their lives for future generations. For me it includes those poor lads shot for cowardice. |
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By *Man1263Man
over a year ago
Stockport |
"To be honest at every minutes silence I just think what a waste of life.. and for what..
To keep the Toffs ...
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Your making it political.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I wear a crochet poppy, red, to remember those who served for our country in all wars. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"To be honest at every minutes silence I just think what a waste of life.. and for what..
To keep the Toffs ...
Your making it political.
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I do wonder if it's all part of the establishments control of the poor man.. make them feel good despite whole generations were wiped outso they could keep their wealth... |
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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago
Liverpool |
"To be honest at every minutes silence I just think what a waste of life.. and for what..
To keep the Toffs ...
Your making it political.
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Unfortunately it has been bastardised as a political symbol, as that is what war is, political.
As I've said, people should just have their own opinions on what it means, but also allow others to have theirs too. |
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By *Man1263Man
over a year ago
Stockport |
"To be honest at every minutes silence I just think what a waste of life.. and for what..
To keep the Toffs ...
Your making it political.
I do wonder if it's all part of the establishments control of the poor man.. make them feel good despite whole generations were wiped outso they could keep their wealth..."
Sigh
That has nothing to do with the Poppy and more to do with you.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I usually wear a pin year round. I also buy several paper ones over this period as they keep getting shredded by the car seat belt. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I wear one and go to a remembrance service every year. I do it as an act of remembrance and a way to say thank you to those who serve.
I respect others wishes if the choose not too.
I respect others wishes if they want to wear a different colour one for whatever reason.
It is not political, it is not religious and it has nothing to do with race, sex, gender, colour or creed.
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By *Man1263Man
over a year ago
Stockport |
"I wear one and go to a remembrance service every year. I do it as an act of remembrance and a way to say thank you to those who serve.
I respect others wishes if the choose not too.
I respect others wishes if they want to wear a different colour one for whatever reason.
It is not political, it is not religious and it has nothing to do with race, sex, gender, colour or creed.
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
Bristol East |
"I usually wear a pin year round. I also buy several paper ones over this period as they keep getting shredded by the car seat belt."
Plastic. I read they are made from pieces of plastic.
Which is what made me wonder what happens to them when people are finished with them. Do you recycle the plastic?
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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago
Liverpool |
"I wear one and go to a remembrance service every year. I do it as an act of remembrance and a way to say thank you to those who serve.
I respect others wishes if the choose not too.
I respect others wishes if they want to wear a different colour one for whatever reason.
It is not political, it is not religious and it has nothing to do with race, sex, gender, colour or creed.
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Fully agree with you!
Except it is political (I don't mean your opinion), as I stated above, it has been bastardised (on both sides) to be a political symbol because people feel so strongly about it (on both sides) . |
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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago
Dudley |
I have an enamel pin on my handbag all year round |
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over a year ago
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Wear whatever colour you like. Repect is respect. It's all in the intent.
Just make sure you buy it from the Royal British Legion and not from one of the horrible cash-in webshops set up by dodgy far-right groups out to make quick buck. People spend their money thinking it's going to a good cause and it gets pocketed by exactly the kind of arseholes Allied soldiers died fighting. Makes my blood boil. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I have never worn one. Felt it was something forced on by some and they looked down on those who didnt. Never wanted to associate myself with that and so just didn't. I feel it's a bit like valentine's. For most it's a one day event or even just a an hr at the memorials, I prefer to avoid it being a one day remembering those who gave their lives for freedom, much like valentine's should be a daily thing. |
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"I usually wear a pin year round. I also buy several paper ones over this period as they keep getting shredded by the car seat belt.
Plastic. I read they are made from pieces of plastic.
Which is what made me wonder what happens to them when people are finished with them. Do you recycle the plastic?
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I have a big box full of them. I started writing the year on them a while back. Wish I'd done it from the start, I think there's at least one from when I was in the Scouts! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I have an enamel pin on my handbag all year round "
I like. |
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I’m from a military family so rememberance has always been part of me, however my family also taught me about the white poppy and it’s meaning.
The white poppy’s intention was to remember all casualties of all wars, with the added meaning of a hope for the end to all war; the red poppy signified only the allied deaths, predominantly British forces.... I struggled with the colour white chosen
I struggled to understand it as a child, as for me having heard white feathers were given to men that people classed as cowards because they weren’t on the front line, without knowing the reason they weren’t serving.... a few were handed to some of my relatives, hence why I was told.
I wear the red in remembrance of all those fallen, but I also wear a white poppy bracelet to symbolise my wish for the ‘war to end all wars’ to actually become a reality
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
I wonder if they are environment friendly...lots of plastic stalks for an hour's ceremony.. |
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"I am wearing one and it will be red. I don't understand the white ones, they are not a symbol of or "glorifying" war they are a symbol of remembrance.
I get people who dont understand what they mean ask me about it.
It's for pacifism, anti-war.
For those of us who want no part of any of the glorification that comes with the main day,which is supposed to bd about Remembering the Dead, in order that none of this happens again.
There is a lot of glorification on Remembrance Day. Maybe not by the masses, maybe not intentionally, but it happens.
Wearing something like a white poppy drags me into conversations I'd rather not have.
I don't like talking to anyone that day as it is.
The white poppy is not about anti-war.
You can be a pacifist and still take part in war.
At the same time, you can be a pacifist and still wear the Red poppy.
It's the thought, not the showing that should count.
Surely by definition a pacifist would not willingly take part in a war? "
Many of the bravest men in the first world war were pacifists.
Quakers especially, who refused to fight but were in the trenches, as stretcher bearers. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Fully agree with you!
Except it is political (I don't mean your opinion), as I stated above, it has been bastardised (on both sides) to be a political symbol because people feel so strongly about it (on both sides) . "
I agree - it has been made political and it shouldn’t have.
What I really should have said is “it should not be about politics or religion.”
For me it is something that should be beyond politics and religion, it should be something pure - remembrance for those you gave their lives and those that serve, Allied and Axis, Foreign and Domestic, Enemy and Friend. |
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By *scouple07Couple
over a year ago
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I wear a poppy badge on my jackets all year round
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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago
Dudley |
"I have an enamel pin on my handbag all year round
I like. "
My handbag? Sorry, you can't have it! |
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over a year ago
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"I am wearing one and it will be red. I don't understand the white ones, they are not a symbol of or "glorifying" war they are a symbol of remembrance.
I get people who dont understand what they mean ask me about it.
It's for pacifism, anti-war.
For those of us who want no part of any of the glorification that comes with the main day,which is supposed to bd about Remembering the Dead, in order that none of this happens again.
There is a lot of glorification on Remembrance Day. Maybe not by the masses, maybe not intentionally, but it happens.
Wearing something like a white poppy drags me into conversations I'd rather not have.
I don't like talking to anyone that day as it is.
The white poppy is not about anti-war.
You can be a pacifist and still take part in war.
At the same time, you can be a pacifist and still wear the Red poppy.
It's the thought, not the showing that should count.
Surely by definition a pacifist would not willingly take part in a war?
Many of the bravest men in the first world war were pacifists.
Quakers especially, who refused to fight but were in the trenches, as stretcher bearers."
Great point. Today many would then accuse them of being hypocritical, which they weren't. There is a lot of misunderstanding or misrepresentation due to not understanding or wrong assumptions. |
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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago
Liverpool |
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Fully agree with you!
Except it is political (I don't mean your opinion), as I stated above, it has been bastardised (on both sides) to be a political symbol because people feel so strongly about it (on both sides) .
I agree - it has been made political and it shouldn’t have.
What I really should have said is “it should not be about politics or religion.”
For me it is something that should be beyond politics and religion, it should be something pure - remembrance for those you gave their lives and those that serve, Allied and Axis, Foreign and Domestic, Enemy and Friend. "
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"I am wearing one and it will be red. I don't understand the white ones, they are not a symbol of or "glorifying" war they are a symbol of remembrance.
I get people who dont understand what they mean ask me about it.
It's for pacifism, anti-war.
For those of us who want no part of any of the glorification that comes with the main day,which is supposed to bd about Remembering the Dead, in order that none of this happens again.
There is a lot of glorification on Remembrance Day. Maybe not by the masses, maybe not intentionally, but it happens.
Wearing something like a white poppy drags me into conversations I'd rather not have.
I don't like talking to anyone that day as it is.
The white poppy is not about anti-war.
You can be a pacifist and still take part in war.
At the same time, you can be a pacifist and still wear the Red poppy.
It's the thought, not the showing that should count.
Surely by definition a pacifist would not willingly take part in a war?
Many of the bravest men in the first world war were pacifists.
Quakers especially, who refused to fight but were in the trenches, as stretcher bearers.
Great point. Today many would then accuse them of being hypocritical, which they weren't. There is a lot of misunderstanding or misrepresentation due to not understanding or wrong assumptions.
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Possibly, though I think the first and second world wars were a little more clear cut.
I don't think a pacifist would feel comfortable "supporting" our efforts in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'd wear a white one, but it attracts more negativity than I'm prepared to deal with at this time of the year."
I've always worn a white one, why would you get negativity? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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For me the poppy is a mark of respect to all those who have made the ultimate sacrifice to give us the freedoms far too many take for granted.
All those who bemoan war need to remember that without it they may not have that freedom. |
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"Red, any other colour is just snowflake bullshit. The Red Poppy is a memorial to everyone, regardless of Country, Faith, Colour or Creed who have their lives for future generations. For me it includes those poor lads shot for cowardice. "
That isn't actually what the red poppy commemorates. It *certainly* doesn't include those shot for so-callled cowardice.
So that kinda detracts from your snowflake comment. The other thong that makes it seem a little inaccurate is the history of the white poppy. Google is your friend. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Always with pride for those who died to give us freedom |
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By *uxom redCouple
over a year ago
Shrewsbury |
"Red, any other colour is just snowflake bullshit. The Red Poppy is a memorial to everyone, regardless of Country, Faith, Colour or Creed who have their lives for future generations. For me it includes those poor lads shot for cowardice. "
So animals that have served their country mean sweet fuck all to you? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Yes I'll be getting a poppy as I see it as a sign of thanks and respect for the people that have sacrificed a lot for this country |
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By *2699Man
over a year ago
maldon |
"Red one for me.
If there is one for the animals that got killed I would wear that as well.
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yes you can get a purple one for animals |
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"I am wearing one and it will be red. I don't understand the white ones, they are not a symbol of or "glorifying" war they are a symbol of remembrance.
I get people who dont understand what they mean ask me about it.
It's for pacifism, anti-war.
For those of us who want no part of any of the glorification that comes with the main day,which is supposed to bd about Remembering the Dead, in order that none of this happens again.
There is a lot of glorification on Remembrance Day. Maybe not by the masses, maybe not intentionally, but it happens.
Wearing something like a white poppy drags me into conversations I'd rather not have.
I don't like talking to anyone that day as it is.
The white poppy is not about anti-war.
You can be a pacifist and still take part in war.
At the same time, you can be a pacifist and still wear the Red poppy.
It's the thought, not the showing that should count.
Surely by definition a pacifist would not willingly take part in a war?
Why?
Can a pacifist not help those wounded without taking part in the fighting?
So if your a medic can you not join up and help but not take an active part in the fighting?
So yes, you can be a pacifist and actually disagree with conflict but still help
Which is why I have no problem with the White Poppy, the Poppy isn't, and never should be, political.
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Yes it's fiction but remember the private Godfrey conscientious objector story in dad's army ? Turned out he was a bigger hero than most of them |
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over a year ago
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I feel it would be inappropriate for me to wear one, but I do put money in the boxes. |
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Nope , nadaaa , never, sign of oppression for some,
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I'm wearing mine.
I see it as a gesture of remembrance for all who lost their lives, on all sides.
It should help serve as a reminder, a warning, never to go through this again.
Alas it will undoubtedly happen at some point though, history repeats, despite the lessons.
"Lest we forget" |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I get some every year from the website, got some cuff links and a couple of great enamel ones this year |
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By *eeBee67Man
over a year ago
Masked and Distant |
I will be wearing my RBL poppy as usual. Always buy a new one each year.
In remembrance of all who have fought and died, and those who fought and were lucky enough to have returned. |
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over a year ago
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We are both wearing red poppies. |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Red, any other colour is just snowflake bullshit. The Red Poppy is a memorial to everyone, regardless of Country, Faith, Colour or Creed who have their lives for future generations. For me it includes those poor lads shot for cowardice.
So animals that have served their country mean sweet fuck all to you? "
I don't think animals recognise countries and nations. It's something only humans do to demarcate between tribes.
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"Red, any other colour is just snowflake bullshit. The Red Poppy is a memorial to everyone, regardless of Country, Faith, Colour or Creed who have their lives for future generations. For me it includes those poor lads shot for cowardice.
So animals that have served their country mean sweet fuck all to you?
I don't think animals recognise countries and nations. It's something only humans do to demarcate between tribes.
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Clearly you've never met a member of the cat family. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I’ve got mine and wear it with pride x |
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I were mine for respect of my 2 uncles and grandfather who served and my cousin who is serving and friends and in memory of a good friend who died in Iraq . |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
On reflection,
Let it be just to remember all of those fallen, from every nation, including combatants, non combatants and animals.
The colour of the poppy is fine. Just let us remember. |
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We wear ours with pride, we both go to a Remembrance service |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Wearing mine as a sign of respect for all who have served. |
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I wear a red one every year.
My dog wears a purple one |
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I made one with all 3 colours... white, red and purple Donation has been made to RBL even though they only support the red poppy... made a few and asked friends who wanted them to make a donation with the understanding all donations were going to RBL regardless of which poppy they wanted.  |
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As I'm still serving I'd be incorrectly dressed if I didn't! |
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By *isaB45Woman
over a year ago
Fabville |
I wear my poppy with pride and gratitude |
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By *isaB45Woman
over a year ago
Fabville |
Hang on a minute..the poppy symbolises a nation's grateful thanks to those who made the ultimate sacrifice in the bid for freedom of people. And for those that continue to do so today.
However one chooses to mark this period of rembrance is a personal choice.
There is absolutely no no justifiable reason to promote shame, abuse or violence here. In fact, I find it vile and disgusting. So let's stop. Now. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Hang on a minute..the poppy symbolises a nation's grateful thanks to those who made the ultimate sacrifice in the bid for freedom of people. And for those that continue to do so today.
However one chooses to mark this period of rembrance is a personal choice.
There is absolutely no no justifiable reason to promote shame, abuse or violence here. In fact, I find it vile and disgusting. So let's stop. Now."
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I wear a red one every year.
My dog wears a purple one"
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'd wear a white one, but it attracts more negativity than I'm prepared to deal with at this time of the year.
I've always worn a white one, why would you get negativity? "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Have a red one and always wear it |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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This is why regular ppl aren't experts. Fab at its worst.....  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Red, any other colour is just snowflake bullshit. The Red Poppy is a memorial to everyone, regardless of Country, Faith, Colour or Creed who have their lives for future generations. For me it includes those poor lads shot for cowardice.
That isn't actually what the red poppy commemorates. It *certainly* doesn't include those shot for so-callled cowardice.
So that kinda detracts from your snowflake comment. The other thong that makes it seem a little inaccurate is the history of the white poppy. Google is your friend."
I said "FOR ME" it includes them. I dont need Google! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Red, any other colour is just snowflake bullshit. The Red Poppy is a memorial to everyone, regardless of Country, Faith, Colour or Creed who have their lives for future generations. For me it includes those poor lads shot for cowardice.
So animals that have served their country mean sweet fuck all to you? "
They mean a lot to me and my RED poppy includes them too! |
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"Hang on a minute..the poppy symbolises a nation's grateful thanks to those who made the ultimate sacrifice in the bid for freedom of people. And for those that continue to do so today.
However one chooses to mark this period of rembrance is a personal choice.
There is absolutely no no justifiable reason to promote shame, abuse or violence here. In fact, I find it vile and disgusting. So let's stop. Now.
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That's the whole idea of the thread in the first place,
It's not posted on the UK page but an international one,
Is up here to cause debate and rile people,
What the poppy symbolizes in the UK is completely the opposite to how any country the UK invaded or ruled with an iron fist see it, and I'm pretty sure the OP knows it. There probably more millions who see it as a sign of Oppression, |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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over a year ago
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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I read about one professional sportsman who views it as a sign of oppression. I think it's about respecting the dead of all nations, human and animal. Interesting debate though. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I was in the CWGC cemetery at Douvres-La-Delivrande a few weeks ago which contains the remains of over 1000 british and commonwealth soldiers who died in the fighting around Caen in June/July 1944, including many members of my own antecedent regiment, they are why we wear the poppy on remembrance day. |
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By *ilkenWoman
over a year ago
Manchester |
If someone wants to wear one its their right to do so if someone doesn't then just leave them be no need to persecute them for not doing so. Then those who are remembering those last in the past can do it respectfully without interruption. |
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"Red, any other colour is just snowflake bullshit. The Red Poppy is a memorial to everyone, regardless of Country, Faith, Colour or Creed who have their lives for future generations. For me it includes those poor lads shot for cowardice.
That isn't actually what the red poppy commemorates. It *certainly* doesn't include those shot for so-callled cowardice.
So that kinda detracts from your snowflake comment. The other thong that makes it seem a little inaccurate is the history of the white poppy. Google is your friend.
I said "FOR ME" it includes them. I dont need Google! "
You said, "The Red Poppy is a memorial to everyone..." but it isn't. That's not what it means.
Wearers of the White Poppy have known this since 1933. So, as they wanted to remember slightly differently, they wear a white poppy.
Ironically, they are the ones respecting what the red poppy actually means, by letting it do just that.
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"I have my 2019 enamel pin
I prefer them over the paper poppies "
Got mine too in memory of my grandads and all those that serve then and now. |
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"Hang on a minute..the poppy symbolises a nation's grateful thanks to those who made the ultimate sacrifice in the bid for freedom of people. And for those that continue to do so today.
However one chooses to mark this period of rembrance is a personal choice.
There is absolutely no no justifiable reason to promote shame, abuse or violence here. In fact, I find it vile and disgusting. So let's stop. Now.
That's the whole idea of the thread in the first place,
It's not posted on the UK page but an international one,
Is up here to cause debate and rile people,
What the poppy symbolizes in the UK is completely the opposite to how any country the UK invaded or ruled with an iron fist see it, and I'm pretty sure the OP knows it. There probably more millions who see it as a sign of Oppression, "
There is a black poppy as well. |
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Umm weren't the England football team told they couldn't wear them last year?
I believe the international football authority is very strict about keeping anything political out of the football arena.
War by definition occurs because of a failure of politics.
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pep guadiola got fined for wearing a badge which was classed as a political statement so I think the same rule applies to league football btw James McLean refused to wear a shirt with a poppy on and he gave his reasons but still got slated for it |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Personal preference. |
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If this thread has shown anything is that everyone has different views of what the different types of poppies mean, why they choose to wear one or not.
No one is wrong or right for wearing one and no one should be slated for their choices |
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