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"Super fast thumbs " If I my Wales could move as fast  | |||
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"Trev "lol | |||
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"Faf- take a fucking now!" Yep, annoying but brilliant. | |||
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"Faf- take a fucking now! Yep, annoying but brilliant." He’s unreal. He could walk on to any team, and any hair product advert | |||
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"Well this is nerve wracking. Rather play SA than Wales. " Neither are a threat based on that. I’d love to play Wales for an all British final | |||
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 if you're welsh...
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"Faf- take a fucking now! Yep, annoying but brilliant. He’s unreal. He could walk on to any team, and any hair product advert "Haha! Indeed. | |||
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I had high hopes for and Eng v Wales final | |||
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"Well done SA! " | |||
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"FAF was outstanding, absolutely outstanding " He was. | |||
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"Damn I had high hopes for and Eng v Wales final "Oh well, I had high hopes for a NZ v SA final, but as the great poet Jagger once said: 'You can't always get what you want'. | |||
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"FAF was outstanding, absolutely outstanding He was." Why Rassie sticks with Willie LeRoux I'll never know. | |||
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"Damn I had high hopes for and Eng v Wales final
Oh well, I had high hopes for a NZ v SA final, but as the great poet Jagger once said: 'You can't always get what you want'."He did | |||
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"Wasn’t a great match but the best team did win " Yes. I think SA deserved it. Hopefully a more spectacular final. | |||
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"Wales v all blacks will be a good match... Hansen, Gatland - last game. " I will be cheering the loudest for Wales. All Blacks look very vulnerable right now. | |||
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"FAF was outstanding, absolutely outstanding " England need to neutralise the threat he poses without giving away penalties! | |||
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"Wasn’t a great match but the best team did win " Didn't think there was anything in it and a few infringements over looked that yesterday's ref would have asked to to look at, but french refs tend not to ask others opinions. That at tackle in the air was clear as was two neck tackles. | |||
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"I didn't find SA at all inspiring If that's the standard they bring next week That big shiny cup, is coming home " | |||
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"We're all watching Rugby X next week now the tournament is over, yes? "Packing our clothes for 18 days in PDI woooohooooo | |||
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"Wales v all blacks will be a good match... Hansen, Gatland - last game. " Oh yes indeedy!!! | |||
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"Called South Africa and England to have a powerplay final at the start. Called South Africa to win it. Wales can beat England, and they were never in this game. So how is the England power game gonna beat SA? it wont." SA to bore England to death with their repetitive unimaginative play. Me to bore you to death | |||
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"Damn I had high hopes for and Eng v Wales final "how long is next world cup maybe then | |||
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"Called South Africa and England to have a powerplay final at the start. Called South Africa to win it. Wales can beat England, and they were never in this game. So how is the England power game gonna beat SA? it wont. SA to bore England to death with their repetitive unimaginative play. Me to bore you to death "Would Africa play more exciting Rugby if they had as many foreign born players as England does? Would wales have done better if they did too? Ireland is giving out passports to compliment their future teams, perhaps Wales should do the same? | |||
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"Called South Africa and England to have a powerplay final at the start. Called South Africa to win it. Wales can beat England, and they were never in this game. So how is the England power game gonna beat SA? it wont. SA to bore England to death with their repetitive unimaginative play. Me to bore you to death
Would Africa play more exciting Rugby if they had as many foreign born players as England does? Would wales have done better if they did too?
Ireland is giving out passports to compliment their future teams, perhaps Wales should do the same?"I don’t think it’s as easy as “giving out a passport” Without a natural right (born, parent or grandparent) for a player to want to play for a country other than where they were born requires a lot of commitment and investment in that country. From 2020 it will require 5 years unbroken residency - which will need the player to play for a top level club in that country In my mind that takes some big career choices for a young player .. and what greater prize than to strive to represent that country at international level ... | |||
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"Called South Africa and England to have a powerplay final at the start. Called South Africa to win it. Wales can beat England, and they were never in this game. So how is the England power game gonna beat SA? it wont. SA to bore England to death with their repetitive unimaginative play. Me to bore you to death
Would Africa play more exciting Rugby if they had as many foreign born players as England does? Would wales have done better if they did too?
Ireland is giving out passports to compliment their future teams, perhaps Wales should do the same?
I don’t think it’s as easy as “giving out a passport”
Without a natural right (born, parent or grandparent) for a player to want to play for a country other than where they were born requires a lot of commitment and investment in that country.
From 2020 it will require 5 years unbroken residency - which will need the player to play for a top level club in that country
In my mind that takes some big career choices for a young player .. and what greater prize than to strive to represent that country at international level ... " | |||
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"Called South Africa and England to have a powerplay final at the start. Called South Africa to win it. Wales can beat England, and they were never in this game. So how is the England power game gonna beat SA? it wont. SA to bore England to death with their repetitive unimaginative play. Me to bore you to death
Would Africa play more exciting Rugby if they had as many foreign born players as England does? Would wales have done better if they did too?
Ireland is giving out passports to compliment their future teams, perhaps Wales should do the same?
I don’t think it’s as easy as “giving out a passport”
Without a natural right (born, parent or grandparent) for a player to want to play for a country other than where they were born requires a lot of commitment and investment in that country.
From 2020 it will require 5 years unbroken residency - which will need the player to play for a top level club in that country
In my mind that takes some big career choices for a young player .. and what greater prize than to strive to represent that country at international level ... "I agree. It's always a stone thrown by people on sports forums about the birthplace or naturalisation of players. Ultimately, the rules are the same for everyone in every country. If a player wants to pull on that nations Jersey, they qualify and they're good enough, then that should be enough for everyone. It's petty and ridiculous to make snipes. | |||
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"Called South Africa and England to have a powerplay final at the start. Called South Africa to win it. Wales can beat England, and they were never in this game. So how is the England power game gonna beat SA? it wont. SA to bore England to death with their repetitive unimaginative play. Me to bore you to death
Would Africa play more exciting Rugby if they had as many foreign born players as England does? Would wales have done better if they did too?
Ireland is giving out passports to compliment their future teams, perhaps Wales should do the same?
I don’t think it’s as easy as “giving out a passport”
Without a natural right (born, parent or grandparent) for a player to want to play for a country other than where they were born requires a lot of commitment and investment in that country.
From 2020 it will require 5 years unbroken residency - which will need the player to play for a top level club in that country
In my mind that takes some big career choices for a young player .. and what greater prize than to strive to represent that country at international level ... " | |||
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"Called South Africa and England to have a powerplay final at the start. Called South Africa to win it. Wales can beat England, and they were never in this game. So how is the England power game gonna beat SA? it wont. SA to bore England to death with their repetitive unimaginative play. Me to bore you to death
Would Africa play more exciting Rugby if they had as many foreign born players as England does? Would wales have done better if they did too?
Ireland is giving out passports to compliment their future teams, perhaps Wales should do the same?
I don’t think it’s as easy as “giving out a passport”
Without a natural right (born, parent or grandparent) for a player to want to play for a country other than where they were born requires a lot of commitment and investment in that country.
From 2020 it will require 5 years unbroken residency - which will need the player to play for a top level club in that country
In my mind that takes some big career choices for a young player .. and what greater prize than to strive to represent that country at international level ... "Probably a valid statement before the age of professional rugby. Today the country with the biggest budget can afford to buy the best players which is bad for rugby because it widens the gap between the haves and the have nots. Not only are top tier rugby nations benefiting from players they did not train or invest into but poorer nations are losing player that they have invested in with rugby academies etc. I'm sure the feeling would be different if England, France, New Zealand were losing their players to Fiji, West Samoa and Tonga. | |||
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"Called South Africa and England to have a powerplay final at the start. Called South Africa to win it. Wales can beat England, and they were never in this game. So how is the England power game gonna beat SA? it wont." Not sure what game you were watching today if you said Wales were never in it. Even the score line step by step showed there was nothing in the two teams. If finally fell down to a couple of mistakes and where those mistakes happened as to who won. | |||
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"Called South Africa and England to have a powerplay final at the start. Called South Africa to win it. Wales can beat England, and they were never in this game. So how is the England power game gonna beat SA? it wont. Not sure what game you were watching today if you said Wales were never in it. Even the score line step by step showed there was nothing in the two teams. If finally fell down to a couple of mistakes and where those mistakes happened as to who won." I don't think anyone will say SA had a good day at the office. Willie le Roux was atrocious. Faf kicked decent possession away (mostly straight up in the air) and SA lost their first lineout of the tournament. When you can play your worst and still win it's a good sign. On the flip side England may have had a brilliant game yesterday but they aren't famous for their consistency. I said before the game that AB were going to struggle with a ref who doesn't drink the World Rugby cool aid. I had a good laugh at Nigel Owens needing to spend so long explaining to Kieren Reed that a player needs to be on his feet to play the ball. There is no justification for Jerome Garces to referee the final and Nigel Owens can't ref the bronze cup game. If SA could choose their referee it would be Nigel. There were a few English players limping off the field on Saturday whereas South Africa will have Cheslin Kolbe returning to the fold and be stronger. This means SA will only have lost one player (Trevor Nyakane) to injury and field a bench that may even be better than their run on team. There's a lot of plusses there... | |||
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"Called South Africa and England to have a powerplay final at the start. Called South Africa to win it. Wales can beat England, and they were never in this game. So how is the England power game gonna beat SA? it wont. Not sure what game you were watching today if you said Wales were never in it. Even the score line step by step showed there was nothing in the two teams. If finally fell down to a couple of mistakes and where those mistakes happened as to who won." i agree the game was equally fought and somebody has to lose | |||
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"Called South Africa and England to have a powerplay final at the start. Called South Africa to win it. Wales can beat England, and they were never in this game. So how is the England power game gonna beat SA? it wont. SA to bore England to death with their repetitive unimaginative play. Me to bore you to death
Would Africa play more exciting Rugby if they had as many foreign born players as England does? Would wales have done better if they did too?
Ireland is giving out passports to compliment their future teams, perhaps Wales should do the same?
I don’t think it’s as easy as “giving out a passport”
Without a natural right (born, parent or grandparent) for a player to want to play for a country other than where they were born requires a lot of commitment and investment in that country.
From 2020 it will require 5 years unbroken residency - which will need the player to play for a top level club in that country
In my mind that takes some big career choices for a young player .. and what greater prize than to strive to represent that country at international level ...
Probably a valid statement before the age of professional rugby. Today the country with the biggest budget can afford to buy the best players which is bad for rugby because it widens the gap between the haves and the have nots.
Not only are top tier rugby nations benefiting from players they did not train or invest into but poorer nations are losing player that they have invested in with rugby academies etc.
I'm sure the feeling would be different if England, France, New Zealand were losing their players to Fiji, West Samoa and Tonga."Any examples you can mention ? | |||
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"Called South Africa and England to have a powerplay final at the start. Called South Africa to win it. Wales can beat England, and they were never in this game. So how is the England power game gonna beat SA? it wont. SA to bore England to death with their repetitive unimaginative play. Me to bore you to death
Would Africa play more exciting Rugby if they had as many foreign born players as England does? Would wales have done better if they did too?
Ireland is giving out passports to compliment their future teams, perhaps Wales should do the same?
I don’t think it’s as easy as “giving out a passport”
Without a natural right (born, parent or grandparent) for a player to want to play for a country other than where they were born requires a lot of commitment and investment in that country.
From 2020 it will require 5 years unbroken residency - which will need the player to play for a top level club in that country
In my mind that takes some big career choices for a young player .. and what greater prize than to strive to represent that country at international level ...
Probably a valid statement before the age of professional rugby. Today the country with the biggest budget can afford to buy the best players which is bad for rugby because it widens the gap between the haves and the have nots.
Not only are top tier rugby nations benefiting from players they did not train or invest into but poorer nations are losing player that they have invested in with rugby academies etc.
I'm sure the feeling would be different if England, France, New Zealand were losing their players to Fiji, West Samoa and Tonga.
Any examples you can mention ?"The first example that comes to mind is CJ Stander. SA Craven week. Now playing for Ireland. | |||
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"Called South Africa and England to have a powerplay final at the start. Called South Africa to win it. Wales can beat England, and they were never in this game. So how is the England power game gonna beat SA? it wont. SA to bore England to death with their repetitive unimaginative play. Me to bore you to death
Would Africa play more exciting Rugby if they had as many foreign born players as England does? Would wales have done better if they did too?
Ireland is giving out passports to compliment their future teams, perhaps Wales should do the same?
I don’t think it’s as easy as “giving out a passport”
Without a natural right (born, parent or grandparent) for a player to want to play for a country other than where they were born requires a lot of commitment and investment in that country.
From 2020 it will require 5 years unbroken residency - which will need the player to play for a top level club in that country
In my mind that takes some big career choices for a young player .. and what greater prize than to strive to represent that country at international level ...
Probably a valid statement before the age of professional rugby. Today the country with the biggest budget can afford to buy the best players which is bad for rugby because it widens the gap between the haves and the have nots.
Not only are top tier rugby nations benefiting from players they did not train or invest into but poorer nations are losing player that they have invested in with rugby academies etc.
I'm sure the feeling would be different if England, France, New Zealand were losing their players to Fiji, West Samoa and Tonga.
Any examples you can mention ?
The first example that comes to mind is CJ Stander. SA Craven week. Now playing for Ireland."I thought your gripe was with top tier nations poaching/benefitting the best players after the poor nations had trained and moulded them into great rugby players? | |||
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"Called South Africa and England to have a powerplay final at the start. Called South Africa to win it. Wales can beat England, and they were never in this game. So how is the England power game gonna beat SA? it wont. SA to bore England to death with their repetitive unimaginative play. Me to bore you to death
Would Africa play more exciting Rugby if they had as many foreign born players as England does? Would wales have done better if they did too?
Ireland is giving out passports to compliment their future teams, perhaps Wales should do the same?"South Africa have lost a lot of games being drawn into the trap of trying to play someone else's brand of rugby. This is rugby union, not rugby league, not sevens rugby. Yes tries by the backs are exciting and get us out of our seats, but there is something beautiful about a well orchestrated rolling maul or a tight scrum. What annoys me is the overuse of the box kick and kicking away good possession in the opposition half. | |||
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"Called South Africa and England to have a powerplay final at the start. Called South Africa to win it. Wales can beat England, and they were never in this game. So how is the England power game gonna beat SA? it wont. SA to bore England to death with their repetitive unimaginative play. Me to bore you to death
Would Africa play more exciting Rugby if they had as many foreign born players as England does? Would wales have done better if they did too?
Ireland is giving out passports to compliment their future teams, perhaps Wales should do the same?
I don’t think it’s as easy as “giving out a passport”
Without a natural right (born, parent or grandparent) for a player to want to play for a country other than where they were born requires a lot of commitment and investment in that country.
From 2020 it will require 5 years unbroken residency - which will need the player to play for a top level club in that country
In my mind that takes some big career choices for a young player .. and what greater prize than to strive to represent that country at international level ...
Probably a valid statement before the age of professional rugby. Today the country with the biggest budget can afford to buy the best players which is bad for rugby because it widens the gap between the haves and the have nots.
Not only are top tier rugby nations benefiting from players they did not train or invest into but poorer nations are losing player that they have invested in with rugby academies etc.
I'm sure the feeling would be different if England, France, New Zealand were losing their players to Fiji, West Samoa and Tonga.
Any examples you can mention ?
The first example that comes to mind is CJ Stander. SA Craven week. Now playing for Ireland.
I thought your gripe was with top tier nations poaching/benefitting the best players after the poor nations had trained and moulded them into great rugby players? "Yup it is. Countries like South Africa whose rand struggles to compete with the Euro and the pound lose a lot of their players to stronger currencies. Jannie and Bismarck du Plessis and Dan Carter to France. Josh Strauss to Scotland. Lappies Labuschagné to Japan, Bradley Barrett to England etc etc | |||
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"Called South Africa and England to have a powerplay final at the start. Called South Africa to win it. Wales can beat England, and they were never in this game. So how is the England power game gonna beat SA? it wont. SA to bore England to death with their repetitive unimaginative play. Me to bore you to death
Would Africa play more exciting Rugby if they had as many foreign born players as England does? Would wales have done better if they did too?
Ireland is giving out passports to compliment their future teams, perhaps Wales should do the same?
I don’t think it’s as easy as “giving out a passport”
Without a natural right (born, parent or grandparent) for a player to want to play for a country other than where they were born requires a lot of commitment and investment in that country.
From 2020 it will require 5 years unbroken residency - which will need the player to play for a top level club in that country
In my mind that takes some big career choices for a young player .. and what greater prize than to strive to represent that country at international level ...
Probably a valid statement before the age of professional rugby. Today the country with the biggest budget can afford to buy the best players which is bad for rugby because it widens the gap between the haves and the have nots.
Not only are top tier rugby nations benefiting from players they did not train or invest into but poorer nations are losing player that they have invested in with rugby academies etc.
I'm sure the feeling would be different if England, France, New Zealand were losing their players to Fiji, West Samoa and Tonga.
Any examples you can mention ?
The first example that comes to mind is CJ Stander. SA Craven week. Now playing for Ireland.
I thought your gripe was with top tier nations poaching/benefitting the best players after the poor nations had trained and moulded them into great rugby players?
Yup it is. Countries like South Africa whose rand struggles to compete with the Euro and the pound lose a lot of their players to stronger currencies. Jannie and Bismarck du Plessis and Dan Carter to France. Josh Strauss to Scotland. Lappies Labuschagné to Japan, Bradley Barrett to England etc etc"Why wasn’t Stander capped by SA? I don’t think it has anything to do with the power of the euro/pound currency | |||
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"Called South Africa and England to have a powerplay final at the start. Called South Africa to win it. Wales can beat England, and they were never in this game. So how is the England power game gonna beat SA? it wont. SA to bore England to death with their repetitive unimaginative play. Me to bore you to death
Would Africa play more exciting Rugby if they had as many foreign born players as England does? Would wales have done better if they did too?
Ireland is giving out passports to compliment their future teams, perhaps Wales should do the same?
I don’t think it’s as easy as “giving out a passport”
Without a natural right (born, parent or grandparent) for a player to want to play for a country other than where they were born requires a lot of commitment and investment in that country.
From 2020 it will require 5 years unbroken residency - which will need the player to play for a top level club in that country
In my mind that takes some big career choices for a young player .. and what greater prize than to strive to represent that country at international level ...
Probably a valid statement before the age of professional rugby. Today the country with the biggest budget can afford to buy the best players which is bad for rugby because it widens the gap between the haves and the have nots.
Not only are top tier rugby nations benefiting from players they did not train or invest into but poorer nations are losing player that they have invested in with rugby academies etc.
I'm sure the feeling would be different if England, France, New Zealand were losing their players to Fiji, West Samoa and Tonga.
Any examples you can mention ?
The first example that comes to mind is CJ Stander. SA Craven week. Now playing for Ireland.
I thought your gripe was with top tier nations poaching/benefitting the best players after the poor nations had trained and moulded them into great rugby players?
Yup it is. Countries like South Africa whose rand struggles to compete with the Euro and the pound lose a lot of their players to stronger currencies. Jannie and Bismarck du Plessis and Dan Carter to France. Josh Strauss to Scotland. Lappies Labuschagné to Japan, Bradley Barrett to England etc etc
Why wasn’t Stander capped by SA?
I don’t think it has anything to do with the power of the euro/pound currency
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" Why wasn’t Stander capped by SA? I don’t think it has anything to do with the power of the euro/pound currency " Stander was capped by the under 20's.... he was then told that by the higher ups in SA rugby he would never play for the senior team as they consider him to be "too small" to play in the back row...... thats why he left for ireland..... | |||
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" Yup it is. Countries like South Africa whose rand struggles to compete with the Euro and the pound lose a lot of their players to stronger currencies. Jannie and Bismarck du Plessis and Dan Carter to France. Josh Strauss to Scotland. Lappies Labuschagné to Japan, Bradley Barrett to England etc etc" conflating club rugby and test teams.... jannie, bismark and carter all moved to france because the french top 14 is full of multi millionaire club owners and there salary cap system is way higher than anyone elses...... strauss to scotland and Barrett to england happened because of the "grandparent" rule..... which made them immediately eligible | |||
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" Why wasn’t Stander capped by SA? I don’t think it has anything to do with the power of the euro/pound currency Stander was capped by the under 20's.... he was then told that by the higher ups in SA rugby he would never play for the senior team as they consider him to be "too small" to play in the back row...... thats why he left for ireland....." No that's why he didn't play for South Africa not why he plays for Ireland. If Ireland paid him the Rand equivalent of what the Blue Bulls were paying him he'd still be in SA. Trust me, I understand the situation. My son is a lot bigger than CJ Stander but doesn't see a future for himself as a professional rugby player in SA. I'm trying to get him over here where the £ is his prime motivator. | |||
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" Yup it is. Countries like South Africa whose rand struggles to compete with the Euro and the pound lose a lot of their players to stronger currencies. Jannie and Bismarck du Plessis and Dan Carter to France. Josh Strauss to Scotland. Lappies Labuschagné to Japan, Bradley Barrett to England etc etc conflating club rugby and test teams.... jannie, bismark and carter all moved to france because the french top 14 is full of multi millionaire club owners and there salary cap system is way higher than anyone elses...... strauss to scotland and Barrett to england happened because of the "grandparent" rule..... which made them immediately eligible " Agreed. But I'm talking about countries ploughing training into academies etc and then ending up playing those same players. Even at club level those skills are being disseminated overseas instead of locally. Jannie and Bismarck may have gone to French clubs but they never went back to Springbok rubgy, Dan Carter never went back to the All Blacks. Flou.... a player who hasn't plied his trade within South African borders for years was a significant part of todays game. | |||
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" No that's why he didn't play for South Africa not why he plays for Ireland. If Ireland paid him the Rand equivalent of what the Blue Bulls were paying him he'd still be in SA. Trust me, I understand the situation. My son is a lot bigger than CJ Stander but doesn't see a future for himself as a professional rugby player in SA. I'm trying to get him over here where the £ is his prime motivator." from what i understand from the interviews it was chance at test match rugby that was the driver... so the blue bulls comparison isn't a fair one.... as for him ending up in munster..... they and the IRFU decided that they would offer him a 3 yr contract... with the option of another 3 if they thought he was good enough to play for ireland... think of it as the same sort of deal bunde aki had with connaught.. and van der flier with leinster but the IRFU insist that 3 of the 4 provincial teams must be able to have irish "eligible" players covering all positions.... which is why you had the situation that ulster had to get rid of ruan pinaer even though neither the club or the player wanted to... | |||
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" No that's why he didn't play for South Africa not why he plays for Ireland. If Ireland paid him the Rand equivalent of what the Blue Bulls were paying him he'd still be in SA. Trust me, I understand the situation. My son is a lot bigger than CJ Stander but doesn't see a future for himself as a professional rugby player in SA. I'm trying to get him over here where the £ is his prime motivator. from what i understand from the interviews it was chance at test match rugby that was the driver... so the blue bulls comparison isn't a fair one.... as for him ending up in munster..... they and the IRFU decided that they would offer him a 3 yr contract... with the option of another 3 if they thought he was good enough to play for ireland... think of it as the same sort of deal bunde aki had with connaught.. and van der flier with leinster but the IRFU insist that 3 of the 4 provincial teams must be able to have irish "eligible" players covering all positions.... which is why you had the situation that ulster had to get rid of ruan pinaer even though neither the club or the player wanted to..." Here is post RWC "exodus" from SA... Stormers trio Eben Etzebeth (Toulon, France), EW Viljoen (Leicester Tigers, England) and Dillyn Leyds (Wasps, England); Bulls quartet RG Snyman (Honda Heat, Japan), Eli Snyman (Treviso, Italy), Hendre Stassen (Stade Francais, France) and Duane Vermeulen (Kubota Spears, Japan); Sharks quintet Jacques Vermeulen (Exeter Chiefs, England), Akker van der Merwe, Jean-Luc du Preez, Dan du Preez and Robert du Preez (all Sale Sharks, England); and Lions duo Stephan Lewies (Harlequins) and Nic Groom (Edinburgh, Scotland). | |||
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" Why wasn’t Stander capped by SA? I don’t think it has anything to do with the power of the euro/pound currency Stander was capped by the under 20's.... he was then told that by the higher ups in SA rugby he would never play for the senior team as they consider him to be "too small" to play in the back row...... thats why he left for ireland....." Correct
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"Wales v all blacks will be a good match... Hansen, Gatland - last game. " The ABs will hurt after yesterday. They’ll run riot in the next game. | |||
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" Why wasn’t Stander capped by SA? I don’t think it has anything to do with the power of the euro/pound currency Stander was capped by the under 20's.... he was then told that by the higher ups in SA rugby he would never play for the senior team as they consider him to be "too small" to play in the back row...... thats why he left for ireland..... Correct
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"FAF was outstanding, absolutely outstanding Unbelievable. He pops up everywhere " Don't you want Willie le Roux? Going cheap.... | |||
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" Why wasn’t Stander capped by SA? I don’t think it has anything to do with the power of the euro/pound currency Stander was capped by the under 20's.... he was then told that by the higher ups in SA rugby he would never play for the senior team as they consider him to be "too small" to play in the back row...... thats why he left for ireland..... No that's why he didn't play for South Africa not why he plays for Ireland. If Ireland paid him the Rand equivalent of what the Blue Bulls were paying him he'd still be in SA. Trust me, I understand the situation. My son is a lot bigger than CJ Stander but doesn't see a future for himself as a professional rugby player in SA. I'm trying to get him over here where the £ is his prime motivator." Actually, Fabio is correct here. | |||
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" Why wasn’t Stander capped by SA? I don’t think it has anything to do with the power of the euro/pound currency Stander was capped by the under 20's.... he was then told that by the higher ups in SA rugby he would never play for the senior team as they consider him to be "too small" to play in the back row...... thats why he left for ireland..... No that's why he didn't play for South Africa not why he plays for Ireland. If Ireland paid him the Rand equivalent of what the Blue Bulls were paying him he'd still be in SA. Trust me, I understand the situation. My son is a lot bigger than CJ Stander but doesn't see a future for himself as a professional rugby player in SA. I'm trying to get him over here where the £ is his prime motivator. Actually, Fabio is correct here." I'm not disagreeing with him. Just saying that he'd have a hard time compiling a list of overseas players who left their country to play for Fiji. And if Fiji did have a team full of European (or of European heritage) players our British commentators would be sure to have something to say about it. Who knows? Maybe post Brexit English players while be leaving our fair Island for a better life earning Euros in Italy? Just kidding guys | |||
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" Why wasn’t Stander capped by SA? I don’t think it has anything to do with the power of the euro/pound currency Stander was capped by the under 20's.... he was then told that by the higher ups in SA rugby he would never play for the senior team as they consider him to be "too small" to play in the back row...... thats why he left for ireland..... No that's why he didn't play for South Africa not why he plays for Ireland. If Ireland paid him the Rand equivalent of what the Blue Bulls were paying him he'd still be in SA. Trust me, I understand the situation. My son is a lot bigger than CJ Stander but doesn't see a future for himself as a professional rugby player in SA. I'm trying to get him over here where the £ is his prime motivator. Actually, Fabio is correct here. I'm not disagreeing with him. Just saying that he'd have a hard time compiling a list of overseas players who left their country to play for Fiji. And if Fiji did have a team full of European (or of European heritage) players our British commentators would be sure to have something to say about it. Who knows? Maybe post Brexit English players while be leaving our fair Island for a better life earning Euros in Italy? Just kidding guys "Bloody trouble maker you are boldy Tut tut | |||
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"FAF was outstanding, absolutely outstanding Unbelievable. He pops up everywhere " IMHO he's not South Africa's best scrum half. Cobus Reinach is far better but plays for the wrong local franchise. | |||
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" Why wasn’t Stander capped by SA? I don’t think it has anything to do with the power of the euro/pound currency Stander was capped by the under 20's.... he was then told that by the higher ups in SA rugby he would never play for the senior team as they consider him to be "too small" to play in the back row...... thats why he left for ireland..... No that's why he didn't play for South Africa not why he plays for Ireland. If Ireland paid him the Rand equivalent of what the Blue Bulls were paying him he'd still be in SA. Trust me, I understand the situation. My son is a lot bigger than CJ Stander but doesn't see a future for himself as a professional rugby player in SA. I'm trying to get him over here where the £ is his prime motivator. Actually, Fabio is correct here. I'm not disagreeing with him. Just saying that he'd have a hard time compiling a list of overseas players who left their country to play for Fiji. And if Fiji did have a team full of European (or of European heritage) players our British commentators would be sure to have something to say about it. Who knows? Maybe post Brexit English players while be leaving our fair Island for a better life earning Euros in Italy? Just kidding guys
Bloody trouble maker you are boldy Tut tut"Stating facts amigo
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"From what I saw in those last two matches (and let's be fair, that's all I've seen of this World Cup) England looked hungry, lethal, furiously fast at every level of the game against the All Blacks. At this level of the game, any team can win on any given day. I've seen every home nation play a game that's put England to shame in the past. But if they play like they did against New Zealand, the Springboks are getting fucked. I'm rooting for Wales for 3rd place, I hope there's some Taffs, Jocks and Paddy's rooting for us in the Final. It honestly sucks being the only home nation that isn't cheered on by the others. Please can we have your support for just one day? Itd mean a great deal.. win, or lose. " Soz GK, I’m rooting for Rassie’s men. I expect many Irish people will because of his connection to Ireland. Plus they have one of our own in their coaching staff. Do I think they’ll win? Possibly not, but I’ll be screaming them on! | |||
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"From what I saw in those last two matches (and let's be fair, that's all I've seen of this World Cup) England looked hungry, lethal, furiously fast at every level of the game against the All Blacks. At this level of the game, any team can win on any given day. I've seen every home nation play a game that's put England to shame in the past. But if they play like they did against New Zealand, the Springboks are getting fucked. I'm rooting for Wales for 3rd place, I hope there's some Taffs, Jocks and Paddy's rooting for us in the Final. It honestly sucks being the only home nation that isn't cheered on by the others. Please can we have your support for just one day? Itd mean a great deal.. win, or lose. Soz GK, I’m rooting for Rassie’s men. I expect many Irish people will because of his connection to Ireland. Plus they have one of our own in their coaching staff. Do I think they’ll win? Possibly not, but I’ll be screaming them on!" | |||
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"From what I saw in those last two matches (and let's be fair, that's all I've seen of this World Cup) England looked hungry, lethal, furiously fast at every level of the game against the All Blacks. At this level of the game, any team can win on any given day. I've seen every home nation play a game that's put England to shame in the past. But if they play like they did against New Zealand, the Springboks are getting fucked. I'm rooting for Wales for 3rd place, I hope there's some Taffs, Jocks and Paddy's rooting for us in the Final. It honestly sucks being the only home nation that isn't cheered on by the others. Please can we have your support for just one day? Itd mean a great deal.. win, or lose. " No can do ... South Africa for me | |||
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"From what I saw in those last two matches (and let's be fair, that's all I've seen of this World Cup) England looked hungry, lethal, furiously fast at every level of the game against the All Blacks. At this level of the game, any team can win on any given day. I've seen every home nation play a game that's put England to shame in the past. But if they play like they did against New Zealand, the Springboks are getting fucked. I'm rooting for Wales for 3rd place, I hope there's some Taffs, Jocks and Paddy's rooting for us in the Final. It honestly sucks being the only home nation that isn't cheered on by the others. Please can we have your support for just one day? Itd mean a great deal.. win, or lose. " I'll agree with you England look unbeatable. But don't forget it wasn't so long ago there was talk of Eddie Jones losing his job. Yes England looked fresher and less jaded as if they had played one test match less than everyone else. Can't think why that is... If you watched SA vs NZ you'll have noticed that apart from 7 minutes of glory the Springboks had the AB at 6s and 7s. The rush defence is nothing new but they were really intense and AB didn't even get out of their half for 20 minutes. It is no surprise that Eddie used the same tactic and to good effect. So the question is.... what happens when BOTH teams use the rush defence. What happens when both teams say "here you have the ball and we'll take it from you"? It could be interesting. | |||
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"From what I saw in those last two matches (and let's be fair, that's all I've seen of this World Cup) England looked hungry, lethal, furiously fast at every level of the game against the All Blacks. At this level of the game, any team can win on any given day. I've seen every home nation play a game that's put England to shame in the past. But if they play like they did against New Zealand, the Springboks are getting fucked. I'm rooting for Wales for 3rd place, I hope there's some Taffs, Jocks and Paddy's rooting for us in the Final. It honestly sucks being the only home nation that isn't cheered on by the others. Please can we have your support for just one day? Itd mean a great deal.. win, or lose. I'll agree with you England look unbeatable. But don't forget it wasn't so long ago there was talk of Eddie Jones losing his job. Yes England looked fresher and less jaded as if they had played one test match less than everyone else. Can't think why that is... If you watched SA vs NZ you'll have noticed that apart from 7 minutes of glory the Springboks had the AB at 6s and 7s. The rush defence is nothing new but they were really intense and AB didn't even get out of their half for 20 minutes. It is no surprise that Eddie used the same tactic and to good effect. So the question is.... what happens when BOTH teams use the rush defence. What happens when both teams say "here you have the ball and we'll take it from you"? It could be interesting. " Fair comment, yes England have played one less match, but I think that can work to your disadvantage as much as an advantage. I didn't see the AB vs Boks match so can't comment. I stand by what I say about the home nations though, it stings everytime. | |||
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"From what I saw in those last two matches (and let's be fair, that's all I've seen of this World Cup) England looked hungry, lethal, furiously fast at every level of the game against the All Blacks. At this level of the game, any team can win on any given day. I've seen every home nation play a game that's put England to shame in the past. But if they play like they did against New Zealand, the Springboks are getting fucked. I'm rooting for Wales for 3rd place, I hope there's some Taffs, Jocks and Paddy's rooting for us in the Final. It honestly sucks being the only home nation that isn't cheered on by the others. Please can we have your support for just one day? Itd mean a great deal.. win, or lose. I'll agree with you England look unbeatable. But don't forget it wasn't so long ago there was talk of Eddie Jones losing his job. Yes England looked fresher and less jaded as if they had played one test match less than everyone else. Can't think why that is... If you watched SA vs NZ you'll have noticed that apart from 7 minutes of glory the Springboks had the AB at 6s and 7s. The rush defence is nothing new but they were really intense and AB didn't even get out of their half for 20 minutes. It is no surprise that Eddie used the same tactic and to good effect. So the question is.... what happens when BOTH teams use the rush defence. What happens when both teams say "here you have the ball and we'll take it from you"? It could be interesting. Fair comment, yes England have played one less match, but I think that can work to your disadvantage as much as an advantage. I didn't see the AB vs Boks match so can't comment. I stand by what I say about the home nations though, it stings everytime." England weren’t the only team to skip a match, the reason being there was a fucking great storm blowing through that people actually died in... honestly sometimes 
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"From what I saw in those last two matches (and let's be fair, that's all I've seen of this World Cup) England looked hungry, lethal, furiously fast at every level of the game against the All Blacks. At this level of the game, any team can win on any given day. I've seen every home nation play a game that's put England to shame in the past. But if they play like they did against New Zealand, the Springboks are getting fucked. I'm rooting for Wales for 3rd place, I hope there's some Taffs, Jocks and Paddy's rooting for us in the Final. It honestly sucks being the only home nation that isn't cheered on by the others. Please can we have your support for just one day? Itd mean a great deal.. win, or lose. I'll agree with you England look unbeatable. But don't forget it wasn't so long ago there was talk of Eddie Jones losing his job. Yes England looked fresher and less jaded as if they had played one test match less than everyone else. Can't think why that is... If you watched SA vs NZ you'll have noticed that apart from 7 minutes of glory the Springboks had the AB at 6s and 7s. The rush defence is nothing new but they were really intense and AB didn't even get out of their half for 20 minutes. It is no surprise that Eddie used the same tactic and to good effect. So the question is.... what happens when BOTH teams use the rush defence. What happens when both teams say "here you have the ball and we'll take it from you"? It could be interesting. Fair comment, yes England have played one less match, but I think that can work to your disadvantage as much as an advantage. I didn't see the AB vs Boks match so can't comment. I stand by what I say about the home nations though, it stings everytime. England weren’t the only team to skip a match, the reason being there was a fucking great storm blowing through that people actually died in... honestly sometimes
GK I have asked before why no one cheers us on, I cheer for all the home nations coz I’m good like that, anyway it will be all over next week "It will be, but the bitterness won't be.. sadly. It's difficult, we're asked to vote along certain lines, history plays it's part, but tomorrow is a new day. People of today aren't/shouldn't be subject to what their ancestors did before them. Just a game. | |||
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"From what I saw in those last two matches (and let's be fair, that's all I've seen of this World Cup) England looked hungry, lethal, furiously fast at every level of the game against the All Blacks. At this level of the game, any team can win on any given day. I've seen every home nation play a game that's put England to shame in the past. But if they play like they did against New Zealand, the Springboks are getting fucked. I'm rooting for Wales for 3rd place, I hope there's some Taffs, Jocks and Paddy's rooting for us in the Final. It honestly sucks being the only home nation that isn't cheered on by the others. Please can we have your support for just one day? Itd mean a great deal.. win, or lose. I'll agree with you England look unbeatable. But don't forget it wasn't so long ago there was talk of Eddie Jones losing his job. Yes England looked fresher and less jaded as if they had played one test match less than everyone else. Can't think why that is... If you watched SA vs NZ you'll have noticed that apart from 7 minutes of glory the Springboks had the AB at 6s and 7s. The rush defence is nothing new but they were really intense and AB didn't even get out of their half for 20 minutes. It is no surprise that Eddie used the same tactic and to good effect. So the question is.... what happens when BOTH teams use the rush defence. What happens when both teams say "here you have the ball and we'll take it from you"? It could be interesting. Fair comment, yes England have played one less match, but I think that can work to your disadvantage as much as an advantage. I didn't see the AB vs Boks match so can't comment. I stand by what I say about the home nations though, it stings everytime. England weren’t the only team to skip a match, the reason being there was a fucking great storm blowing through that people actually died in... honestly sometimes
GK I have asked before why no one cheers us on, I cheer for all the home nations coz I’m good like that, anyway it will be all over next week
It will be, but the bitterness won't be.. sadly. It's difficult, we're asked to vote along certain lines, history plays it's part, but tomorrow is a new day. People of today aren't/shouldn't be subject to what their ancestors did before them.
Just a game. "Erm, this is sport GK, not history. I’ve just had a wee read of the thread again, I don’t see any bitterness. People are entitled to support who they like. | |||
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"From what I saw in those last two matches (and let's be fair, that's all I've seen of this World Cup) England looked hungry, lethal, furiously fast at every level of the game against the All Blacks. At this level of the game, any team can win on any given day. I've seen every home nation play a game that's put England to shame in the past. But if they play like they did against New Zealand, the Springboks are getting fucked. I'm rooting for Wales for 3rd place, I hope there's some Taffs, Jocks and Paddy's rooting for us in the Final. It honestly sucks being the only home nation that isn't cheered on by the others. Please can we have your support for just one day? Itd mean a great deal.. win, or lose. I'll agree with you England look unbeatable. But don't forget it wasn't so long ago there was talk of Eddie Jones losing his job. Yes England looked fresher and less jaded as if they had played one test match less than everyone else. Can't think why that is... If you watched SA vs NZ you'll have noticed that apart from 7 minutes of glory the Springboks had the AB at 6s and 7s. The rush defence is nothing new but they were really intense and AB didn't even get out of their half for 20 minutes. It is no surprise that Eddie used the same tactic and to good effect. So the question is.... what happens when BOTH teams use the rush defence. What happens when both teams say "here you have the ball and we'll take it from you"? It could be interesting. Fair comment, yes England have played one less match, but I think that can work to your disadvantage as much as an advantage. I didn't see the AB vs Boks match so can't comment. I stand by what I say about the home nations though, it stings everytime. England weren’t the only team to skip a match, the reason being there was a fucking great storm blowing through that people actually died in... honestly sometimes
GK I have asked before why no one cheers us on, I cheer for all the home nations coz I’m good like that, anyway it will be all over next week
It will be, but the bitterness won't be.. sadly. It's difficult, we're asked to vote along certain lines, history plays it's part, but tomorrow is a new day. People of today aren't/shouldn't be subject to what their ancestors did before them.
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"From what I saw in those last two matches (and let's be fair, that's all I've seen of this World Cup) England looked hungry, lethal, furiously fast at every level of the game against the All Blacks. At this level of the game, any team can win on any given day. I've seen every home nation play a game that's put England to shame in the past. But if they play like they did against New Zealand, the Springboks are getting fucked. I'm rooting for Wales for 3rd place, I hope there's some Taffs, Jocks and Paddy's rooting for us in the Final. It honestly sucks being the only home nation that isn't cheered on by the others. Please can we have your support for just one day? Itd mean a great deal.. win, or lose. I'll agree with you England look unbeatable. But don't forget it wasn't so long ago there was talk of Eddie Jones losing his job. Yes England looked fresher and less jaded as if they had played one test match less than everyone else. Can't think why that is... If you watched SA vs NZ you'll have noticed that apart from 7 minutes of glory the Springboks had the AB at 6s and 7s. The rush defence is nothing new but they were really intense and AB didn't even get out of their half for 20 minutes. It is no surprise that Eddie used the same tactic and to good effect. So the question is.... what happens when BOTH teams use the rush defence. What happens when both teams say "here you have the ball and we'll take it from you"? It could be interesting. Fair comment, yes England have played one less match, but I think that can work to your disadvantage as much as an advantage. I didn't see the AB vs Boks match so can't comment. I stand by what I say about the home nations though, it stings everytime. England weren’t the only team to skip a match, the reason being there was a fucking great storm blowing through that people actually died in... honestly sometimes
GK I have asked before why no one cheers us on, I cheer for all the home nations coz I’m good like that, anyway it will be all over next week
It will be, but the bitterness won't be.. sadly. It's difficult, we're asked to vote along certain lines, history plays it's part, but tomorrow is a new day. People of today aren't/shouldn't be subject to what their ancestors did before them.
Just a game.
Erm, this is sport GK, not history. I’ve just had a wee read of the thread again, I don’t see any bitterness.
People are entitled to support who they like. "its nowt to do with the thread, just something I've observed in rugby since I started playing it back in 93. England supporters cheer on every home nation, where as the Scots, Welsh and Irish support whoever we, the English are playing against. I know it's sport and this is coming from a rather unpatriotic Englishman, but it still stings and history is often the excuse given. | |||
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"From what I saw in those last two matches (and let's be fair, that's all I've seen of this World Cup) England looked hungry, lethal, furiously fast at every level of the game against the All Blacks. At this level of the game, any team can win on any given day. I've seen every home nation play a game that's put England to shame in the past. But if they play like they did against New Zealand, the Springboks are getting fucked. I'm rooting for Wales for 3rd place, I hope there's some Taffs, Jocks and Paddy's rooting for us in the Final. It honestly sucks being the only home nation that isn't cheered on by the others. Please can we have your support for just one day? Itd mean a great deal.. win, or lose. I'll agree with you England look unbeatable. But don't forget it wasn't so long ago there was talk of Eddie Jones losing his job. Yes England looked fresher and less jaded as if they had played one test match less than everyone else. Can't think why that is... If you watched SA vs NZ you'll have noticed that apart from 7 minutes of glory the Springboks had the AB at 6s and 7s. The rush defence is nothing new but they were really intense and AB didn't even get out of their half for 20 minutes. It is no surprise that Eddie used the same tactic and to good effect. So the question is.... what happens when BOTH teams use the rush defence. What happens when both teams say "here you have the ball and we'll take it from you"? It could be interesting. Fair comment, yes England have played one less match, but I think that can work to your disadvantage as much as an advantage. I didn't see the AB vs Boks match so can't comment. I stand by what I say about the home nations though, it stings everytime. England weren’t the only team to skip a match, the reason being there was a fucking great storm blowing through that people actually died in... honestly sometimes
GK I have asked before why no one cheers us on, I cheer for all the home nations coz I’m good like that, anyway it will be all over next week
It will be, but the bitterness won't be.. sadly. It's difficult, we're asked to vote along certain lines, history plays it's part, but tomorrow is a new day. People of today aren't/shouldn't be subject to what their ancestors did before them.
Just a game.
Erm, this is sport GK, not history. I’ve just had a wee read of the thread again, I don’t see any bitterness.
People are entitled to support who they like.
its nowt to do with the thread, just something I've observed in rugby since I started playing it back in 93. England supporters cheer on every home nation, where as the Scots, Welsh and Irish support whoever we, the English are playing against.
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"From what I saw in those last two matches (and let's be fair, that's all I've seen of this World Cup) England looked hungry, lethal, furiously fast at every level of the game against the All Blacks. At this level of the game, any team can win on any given day. I've seen every home nation play a game that's put England to shame in the past. But if they play like they did against New Zealand, the Springboks are getting fucked. I'm rooting for Wales for 3rd place, I hope there's some Taffs, Jocks and Paddy's rooting for us in the Final. It honestly sucks being the only home nation that isn't cheered on by the others. Please can we have your support for just one day? Itd mean a great deal.. win, or lose. " Why? It's immaterial who anyone else supports. England play for their fans, no one else. Just like the Irish, the Scots, the Welsh. If someone wants to cheer England on that's fine, if they don't why should we care? | |||
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"From what I saw in those last two matches (and let's be fair, that's all I've seen of this World Cup) England looked hungry, lethal, furiously fast at every level of the game against the All Blacks. At this level of the game, any team can win on any given day. I've seen every home nation play a game that's put England to shame in the past. But if they play like they did against New Zealand, the Springboks are getting fucked. I'm rooting for Wales for 3rd place, I hope there's some Taffs, Jocks and Paddy's rooting for us in the Final. It honestly sucks being the only home nation that isn't cheered on by the others. Please can we have your support for just one day? Itd mean a great deal.. win, or lose. I'll agree with you England look unbeatable. But don't forget it wasn't so long ago there was talk of Eddie Jones losing his job. Yes England looked fresher and less jaded as if they had played one test match less than everyone else. Can't think why that is... If you watched SA vs NZ you'll have noticed that apart from 7 minutes of glory the Springboks had the AB at 6s and 7s. The rush defence is nothing new but they were really intense and AB didn't even get out of their half for 20 minutes. It is no surprise that Eddie used the same tactic and to good effect. So the question is.... what happens when BOTH teams use the rush defence. What happens when both teams say "here you have the ball and we'll take it from you"? It could be interesting. Fair comment, yes England have played one less match, but I think that can work to your disadvantage as much as an advantage. I didn't see the AB vs Boks match so can't comment. I stand by what I say about the home nations though, it stings everytime. England weren’t the only team to skip a match, the reason being there was a fucking great storm blowing through that people actually died in... honestly sometimes
GK I have asked before why no one cheers us on, I cheer for all the home nations coz I’m good like that, anyway it will be all over next week
It will be, but the bitterness won't be.. sadly. It's difficult, we're asked to vote along certain lines, history plays it's part, but tomorrow is a new day. People of today aren't/shouldn't be subject to what their ancestors did before them.
Just a game.
Erm, this is sport GK, not history. I’ve just had a wee read of the thread again, I don’t see any bitterness.
People are entitled to support who they like.
its nowt to do with the thread, just something I've observed in rugby since I started playing it back in 93. England supporters cheer on every home nation, where as the Scots, Welsh and Irish support whoever we, the English are playing against.
I know it's sport and this is coming from a rather unpatriotic Englishman, but it still stings and history is often the excuse given.
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"From what I saw in those last two matches (and let's be fair, that's all I've seen of this World Cup) England looked hungry, lethal, furiously fast at every level of the game against the All Blacks. At this level of the game, any team can win on any given day. I've seen every home nation play a game that's put England to shame in the past. But if they play like they did against New Zealand, the Springboks are getting fucked. I'm rooting for Wales for 3rd place, I hope there's some Taffs, Jocks and Paddy's rooting for us in the Final. It honestly sucks being the only home nation that isn't cheered on by the others. Please can we have your support for just one day? Itd mean a great deal.. win, or lose. Why? It's immaterial who anyone else supports. England play for their fans, no one else. Just like the Irish, the Scots, the Welsh. If someone wants to cheer England on that's fine, if they don't why should we care? "
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"From what I saw in those last two matches (and let's be fair, that's all I've seen of this World Cup) England looked hungry, lethal, furiously fast at every level of the game against the All Blacks. At this level of the game, any team can win on any given day. I've seen every home nation play a game that's put England to shame in the past. But if they play like they did against New Zealand, the Springboks are getting fucked. I'm rooting for Wales for 3rd place, I hope there's some Taffs, Jocks and Paddy's rooting for us in the Final. It honestly sucks being the only home nation that isn't cheered on by the others. Please can we have your support for just one day? Itd mean a great deal.. win, or lose. Why? It's immaterial who anyone else supports. England play for their fans, no one else. Just like the Irish, the Scots, the Welsh. If someone wants to cheer England on that's fine, if they don't why should we care? " Alright, forget it then, I'm clearly a wrong un. And will now on support only England.. and Scitlznd for 1/4 of the match | |||
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"From what I saw in those last two matches (and let's be fair, that's all I've seen of this World Cup) England looked hungry, lethal, furiously fast at every level of the game against the All Blacks. At this level of the game, any team can win on any given day. I've seen every home nation play a game that's put England to shame in the past. But if they play like they did against New Zealand, the Springboks are getting fucked. I'm rooting for Wales for 3rd place, I hope there's some Taffs, Jocks and Paddy's rooting for us in the Final. It honestly sucks being the only home nation that isn't cheered on by the others. Please can we have your support for just one day? Itd mean a great deal.. win, or lose. Why? It's immaterial who anyone else supports. England play for their fans, no one else. Just like the Irish, the Scots, the Welsh. If someone wants to cheer England on that's fine, if they don't why should we care?
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"From what I saw in those last two matches (and let's be fair, that's all I've seen of this World Cup) England looked hungry, lethal, furiously fast at every level of the game against the All Blacks. At this level of the game, any team can win on any given day. I've seen every home nation play a game that's put England to shame in the past. But if they play like they did against New Zealand, the Springboks are getting fucked. I'm rooting for Wales for 3rd place, I hope there's some Taffs, Jocks and Paddy's rooting for us in the Final. It honestly sucks being the only home nation that isn't cheered on by the others. Please can we have your support for just one day? Itd mean a great deal.. win, or lose. Why? It's immaterial who anyone else supports. England play for their fans, no one else. Just like the Irish, the Scots, the Welsh. If someone wants to cheer England on that's fine, if they don't why should we care? Alright, forget it then, I'm clearly a wrong un. And will now on support only England.. and Scitlznd for 1/4 of the match "I just don't see why it matters. Some are racist who actively hate English people, most are just playing up to sporting stereotypes, it doesn't bother me - I've got 4yrs of taking the pee out of my Scottish mate to look forward to! | |||
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"From what I saw in those last two matches (and let's be fair, that's all I've seen of this World Cup) England looked hungry, lethal, furiously fast at every level of the game against the All Blacks. At this level of the game, any team can win on any given day. I've seen every home nation play a game that's put England to shame in the past. But if they play like they did against New Zealand, the Springboks are getting fucked. I'm rooting for Wales for 3rd place, I hope there's some Taffs, Jocks and Paddy's rooting for us in the Final. It honestly sucks being the only home nation that isn't cheered on by the others. Please can we have your support for just one day? Itd mean a great deal.. win, or lose. I'll agree with you England look unbeatable. But don't forget it wasn't so long ago there was talk of Eddie Jones losing his job. Yes England looked fresher and less jaded as if they had played one test match less than everyone else. Can't think why that is... If you watched SA vs NZ you'll have noticed that apart from 7 minutes of glory the Springboks had the AB at 6s and 7s. The rush defence is nothing new but they were really intense and AB didn't even get out of their half for 20 minutes. It is no surprise that Eddie used the same tactic and to good effect. So the question is.... what happens when BOTH teams use the rush defence. What happens when both teams say "here you have the ball and we'll take it from you"? It could be interesting. Fair comment, yes England have played one less match, but I think that can work to your disadvantage as much as an advantage. I didn't see the AB vs Boks match so can't comment. I stand by what I say about the home nations though, it stings everytime. England weren’t the only team to skip a match, the reason being there was a fucking great storm blowing through that people actually died in... honestly sometimes
GK I have asked before why no one cheers us on, I cheer for all the home nations coz I’m good like that, anyway it will be all over next week
It will be, but the bitterness won't be.. sadly. It's difficult, we're asked to vote along certain lines, history plays it's part, but tomorrow is a new day. People of today aren't/shouldn't be subject to what their ancestors did before them.
Just a game.
Erm, this is sport GK, not history. I’ve just had a wee read of the thread again, I don’t see any bitterness.
People are entitled to support who they like.
its nowt to do with the thread, just something I've observed in rugby since I started playing it back in 93. England supporters cheer on every home nation, where as the Scots, Welsh and Irish support whoever we, the English are playing against.
I know it's sport and this is coming from a rather unpatriotic Englishman, but it still stings and history is often the excuse given. "Well this Welshman will be cheering on the English till the last gong goes. I hope they bring it to the Northern hemisphere. It's got nothing to do with whether I like the English or not. | |||
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"England will be beaten comfortably the boks next weekend. They beat a very lacklustre NZ team yesterday but that is as far as they will go. I’m gonna go boks by 12. Wipe the smile off the England back row when they feel the dominance of THAT pack!" Nah, I watch Curry & his brother every week at Sale, he & Underhill are phenomenal. | |||
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"England will be beaten comfortably the boks next weekend. They beat a very lacklustre NZ team yesterday but that is as far as they will go. I’m gonna go boks by 12. Wipe the smile off the England back row when they feel the dominance of THAT pack!" Prophecy isn't your calling. | |||
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"From what I saw in those last two matches (and let's be fair, that's all I've seen of this World Cup) England looked hungry, lethal, furiously fast at every level of the game against the All Blacks. At this level of the game, any team can win on any given day. I've seen every home nation play a game that's put England to shame in the past. But if they play like they did against New Zealand, the Springboks are getting fucked. I'm rooting for Wales for 3rd place, I hope there's some Taffs, Jocks and Paddy's rooting for us in the Final. It honestly sucks being the only home nation that isn't cheered on by the others. Please can we have your support for just one day? Itd mean a great deal.. win, or lose. I'll agree with you England look unbeatable. But don't forget it wasn't so long ago there was talk of Eddie Jones losing his job. Yes England looked fresher and less jaded as if they had played one test match less than everyone else. Can't think why that is... If you watched SA vs NZ you'll have noticed that apart from 7 minutes of glory the Springboks had the AB at 6s and 7s. The rush defence is nothing new but they were really intense and AB didn't even get out of their half for 20 minutes. It is no surprise that Eddie used the same tactic and to good effect. So the question is.... what happens when BOTH teams use the rush defence. What happens when both teams say "here you have the ball and we'll take it from you"? It could be interesting. Fair comment, yes England have played one less match, but I think that can work to your disadvantage as much as an advantage. I didn't see the AB vs Boks match so can't comment. I stand by what I say about the home nations though, it stings everytime." When it's against your toughest opponent in the the pool its an advantage. Not just exhaustion for the players but injuries not sustained. If South Africa hadn't played New Zealand they would still have Trevor Nyakane. And I know there was a storm. I know people died. We're all sorry about that and not for a moment suggesting there was any other option but to call the game off. It doesn't change the fact that AB had a harder run in than Tonga and USA and Argentina. If England play the way they played on Saturday no one will beat them. Confidence will be high, but playing the best game of your life two games in a row isn't easy. | |||
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"From what I saw in those last two matches (and let's be fair, that's all I've seen of this World Cup) England looked hungry, lethal, furiously fast at every level of the game against the All Blacks. At this level of the game, any team can win on any given day. I've seen every home nation play a game that's put England to shame in the past. But if they play like they did against New Zealand, the Springboks are getting fucked. I'm rooting for Wales for 3rd place, I hope there's some Taffs, Jocks and Paddy's rooting for us in the Final. It honestly sucks being the only home nation that isn't cheered on by the others. Please can we have your support for just one day? Itd mean a great deal.. win, or lose. I'll agree with you England look unbeatable. But don't forget it wasn't so long ago there was talk of Eddie Jones losing his job. Yes England looked fresher and less jaded as if they had played one test match less than everyone else. Can't think why that is... If you watched SA vs NZ you'll have noticed that apart from 7 minutes of glory the Springboks had the AB at 6s and 7s. The rush defence is nothing new but they were really intense and AB didn't even get out of their half for 20 minutes. It is no surprise that Eddie used the same tactic and to good effect. So the question is.... what happens when BOTH teams use the rush defence. What happens when both teams say "here you have the ball and we'll take it from you"? It could be interesting. Fair comment, yes England have played one less match, but I think that can work to your disadvantage as much as an advantage. I didn't see the AB vs Boks match so can't comment. I stand by what I say about the home nations though, it stings everytime. England weren’t the only team to skip a match, the reason being there was a fucking great storm blowing through that people actually died in... honestly sometimes
GK I have asked before why no one cheers us on, I cheer for all the home nations coz I’m good like that, anyway it will be all over next week
It will be, but the bitterness won't be.. sadly. It's difficult, we're asked to vote along certain lines, history plays it's part, but tomorrow is a new day. People of today aren't/shouldn't be subject to what their ancestors did before them.
Just a game.
Erm, this is sport GK, not history. I’ve just had a wee read of the thread again, I don’t see any bitterness.
People are entitled to support who they like.
its nowt to do with the thread, just something I've observed in rugby since I started playing it back in 93. England supporters cheer on every home nation, where as the Scots, Welsh and Irish support whoever we, the English are playing against.
I know it's sport and this is coming from a rather unpatriotic Englishman, but it still stings and history is often the excuse given.
Well this Welshman will be cheering on the English till the last gong goes. I hope they bring it to the Northern hemisphere. It's got nothing to do with whether I like the English or not. "Thankyou, same way I see things. I'd support the Welsh over some stinking Springboks, or atrocious All Blacks. | |||
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"I can’t wait to see what the result is. Does everyone think this game is a dead cert? Yes World Cup going back to South Africa
Are you sure? You sound unsure, Trev?
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"I can’t wait to see what the result is. Does everyone think this game is a dead cert? Yes World Cup going back to South Africa
Are you sure? You sound unsure, Trev?
He didn't say that England would lose. Just thst South Africa would take the cup. Suggest security gets beefed up! "I was being extremely sarcastic... | |||
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"I can’t wait to see what the result is. Does everyone think this game is a dead cert? Yes World Cup going back to South Africa
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"I can’t wait to see what the result is. Does everyone think this game is a dead cert? Yes World Cup going back to South Africa
Are you sure? You sound unsure, Trev?
He didn't say that England would lose. Just thst South Africa would take the cup. Suggest security gets beefed up!
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"From what I saw in those last two matches (and let's be fair, that's all I've seen of this World Cup) England looked hungry, lethal, furiously fast at every level of the game against the All Blacks. At this level of the game, any team can win on any given day. I've seen every home nation play a game that's put England to shame in the past. But if they play like they did against New Zealand, the Springboks are getting fucked. I'm rooting for Wales for 3rd place, I hope there's some Taffs, Jocks and Paddy's rooting for us in the Final. It honestly sucks being the only home nation that isn't cheered on by the others. Please can we have your support for just one day? Itd mean a great deal.. win, or lose. I'll agree with you England look unbeatable. But don't forget it wasn't so long ago there was talk of Eddie Jones losing his job. Yes England looked fresher and less jaded as if they had played one test match less than everyone else. Can't think why that is... If you watched SA vs NZ you'll have noticed that apart from 7 minutes of glory the Springboks had the AB at 6s and 7s. The rush defence is nothing new but they were really intense and AB didn't even get out of their half for 20 minutes. It is no surprise that Eddie used the same tactic and to good effect. So the question is.... what happens when BOTH teams use the rush defence. What happens when both teams say "here you have the ball and we'll take it from you"? It could be interesting. Fair comment, yes England have played one less match, but I think that can work to your disadvantage as much as an advantage. I didn't see the AB vs Boks match so can't comment. I stand by what I say about the home nations though, it stings everytime. England weren’t the only team to skip a match, the reason being there was a fucking great storm blowing through that people actually died in... honestly sometimes
GK I have asked before why no one cheers us on, I cheer for all the home nations coz I’m good like that, anyway it will be all over next week
It will be, but the bitterness won't be.. sadly. It's difficult, we're asked to vote along certain lines, history plays it's part, but tomorrow is a new day. People of today aren't/shouldn't be subject to what their ancestors did before them.
Just a game.
Erm, this is sport GK, not history. I’ve just had a wee read of the thread again, I don’t see any bitterness.
People are entitled to support who they like.
its nowt to do with the thread, just something I've observed in rugby since I started playing it back in 93. England supporters cheer on every home nation, where as the Scots, Welsh and Irish support whoever we, the English are playing against.
I know it's sport and this is coming from a rather unpatriotic Englishman, but it still stings and history is often the excuse given.
Well this Welshman will be cheering on the English till the last gong goes. I hope they bring it to the Northern hemisphere. It's got nothing to do with whether I like the English or not.
Thankyou, same way I see things. I'd support the Welsh over some stinking Springboks, or atrocious All Blacks."Why you use those words? Sound embittered and not in the spirit of one of the last games where a family can go too without hatred and sectarianism is rife. Sorry but using such terms for opponents isn't what I'd align myself with. | |||
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"From what I saw in those last two matches (and let's be fair, that's all I've seen of this World Cup) England looked hungry, lethal, furiously fast at every level of the game against the All Blacks. At this level of the game, any team can win on any given day. I've seen every home nation play a game that's put England to shame in the past. But if they play like they did against New Zealand, the Springboks are getting fucked. I'm rooting for Wales for 3rd place, I hope there's some Taffs, Jocks and Paddy's rooting for us in the Final. It honestly sucks being the only home nation that isn't cheered on by the others. Please can we have your support for just one day? Itd mean a great deal.. win, or lose. I'll agree with you England look unbeatable. But don't forget it wasn't so long ago there was talk of Eddie Jones losing his job. Yes England looked fresher and less jaded as if they had played one test match less than everyone else. Can't think why that is... If you watched SA vs NZ you'll have noticed that apart from 7 minutes of glory the Springboks had the AB at 6s and 7s. The rush defence is nothing new but they were really intense and AB didn't even get out of their half for 20 minutes. It is no surprise that Eddie used the same tactic and to good effect. So the question is.... what happens when BOTH teams use the rush defence. What happens when both teams say "here you have the ball and we'll take it from you"? It could be interesting. Fair comment, yes England have played one less match, but I think that can work to your disadvantage as much as an advantage. I didn't see the AB vs Boks match so can't comment. I stand by what I say about the home nations though, it stings everytime. England weren’t the only team to skip a match, the reason being there was a fucking great storm blowing through that people actually died in... honestly sometimes
GK I have asked before why no one cheers us on, I cheer for all the home nations coz I’m good like that, anyway it will be all over next week
It will be, but the bitterness won't be.. sadly. It's difficult, we're asked to vote along certain lines, history plays it's part, but tomorrow is a new day. People of today aren't/shouldn't be subject to what their ancestors did before them.
Just a game.
Erm, this is sport GK, not history. I’ve just had a wee read of the thread again, I don’t see any bitterness.
People are entitled to support who they like.
its nowt to do with the thread, just something I've observed in rugby since I started playing it back in 93. England supporters cheer on every home nation, where as the Scots, Welsh and Irish support whoever we, the English are playing against.
I know it's sport and this is coming from a rather unpatriotic Englishman, but it still stings and history is often the excuse given.
Well this Welshman will be cheering on the English till the last gong goes. I hope they bring it to the Northern hemisphere. It's got nothing to do with whether I like the English or not.
Thankyou, same way I see things. I'd support the Welsh over some stinking Springboks, or atrocious All Blacks.
Why you use those words? Sound embittered and not in the spirit of one of the last games where a family can go too without hatred and sectarianism is rife.
Sorry but using such terms for opponents isn't what I'd align myself with."Faf De Klerk & several other great Saffa players are at Sale. All have been exemplary in their humility & bearing when meeting fans. | |||
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"From what I saw in those last two matches (and let's be fair, that's all I've seen of this World Cup) England looked hungry, lethal, furiously fast at every level of the game against the All Blacks. At this level of the game, any team can win on any given day. I've seen every home nation play a game that's put England to shame in the past. But if they play like they did against New Zealand, the Springboks are getting fucked. I'm rooting for Wales for 3rd place, I hope there's some Taffs, Jocks and Paddy's rooting for us in the Final. It honestly sucks being the only home nation that isn't cheered on by the others. Please can we have your support for just one day? Itd mean a great deal.. win, or lose. I'll agree with you England look unbeatable. But don't forget it wasn't so long ago there was talk of Eddie Jones losing his job. Yes England looked fresher and less jaded as if they had played one test match less than everyone else. Can't think why that is... If you watched SA vs NZ you'll have noticed that apart from 7 minutes of glory the Springboks had the AB at 6s and 7s. The rush defence is nothing new but they were really intense and AB didn't even get out of their half for 20 minutes. It is no surprise that Eddie used the same tactic and to good effect. So the question is.... what happens when BOTH teams use the rush defence. What happens when both teams say "here you have the ball and we'll take it from you"? It could be interesting. Fair comment, yes England have played one less match, but I think that can work to your disadvantage as much as an advantage. I didn't see the AB vs Boks match so can't comment. I stand by what I say about the home nations though, it stings everytime. England weren’t the only team to skip a match, the reason being there was a fucking great storm blowing through that people actually died in... honestly sometimes
GK I have asked before why no one cheers us on, I cheer for all the home nations coz I’m good like that, anyway it will be all over next week
It will be, but the bitterness won't be.. sadly. It's difficult, we're asked to vote along certain lines, history plays it's part, but tomorrow is a new day. People of today aren't/shouldn't be subject to what their ancestors did before them.
Just a game.
Erm, this is sport GK, not history. I’ve just had a wee read of the thread again, I don’t see any bitterness.
People are entitled to support who they like.
its nowt to do with the thread, just something I've observed in rugby since I started playing it back in 93. England supporters cheer on every home nation, where as the Scots, Welsh and Irish support whoever we, the English are playing against.
I know it's sport and this is coming from a rather unpatriotic Englishman, but it still stings and history is often the excuse given.
Well this Welshman will be cheering on the English till the last gong goes. I hope they bring it to the Northern hemisphere. It's got nothing to do with whether I like the English or not.
Thankyou, same way I see things. I'd support the Welsh over some stinking Springboks, or atrocious All Blacks.
Why you use those words? Sound embittered and not in the spirit of one of the last games where a family can go too without hatred and sectarianism is rife.
Sorry but using such terms for opponents isn't what I'd align myself with."Interesting.. As it's often those lines used to separate the home nations from supporting the English. Spirit of the game? I'm talking all sports. Brand me what you will, but it's the opposite I'm trying to promote. | |||
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"Riiiight, can we get back on topic and maybe leave the other crap for a different thread? Wherever the results in the next two games, I’ll miss the WC and early morning games. Thank God for the Heineken Cup and Pro14. Can’t wait to get to some Munster games "I'll back out then, clearly this is just sport and I'm talking out me arse. Come on England, and fuck the rest of you!
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"Glasgow not having such a great time in the Pro14 ... rumblings that Dave Rennie wants Australia job .. but would stay the season with Glasgow ... Had hoped Rennie might be a future Scotland coach ..." Hoping to go to see Edinburgh/Munster in Murrayfield. If I do, I’ll be calling on you for pints! | |||
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"Riiiight, can we get back on topic and maybe leave the other crap for a different thread? Wherever the results in the next two games, I’ll miss the WC and early morning games. Thank God for the Heineken Cup and Pro14. Can’t wait to get to some Munster games "Hear hear (other crap). I'm not so sure I'll miss it. As much as I love rugby and cricket, I always find I've had enough for a (short!) while once their respective world cups are over. Although just one match each day this weekend wasn't too bad, I did find multiple matches in the mornings did cut into the day a bit. Seen some briiiant stuff this WC though and really enjoyed it. | |||
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"From what I saw in those last two matches (and let's be fair, that's all I've seen of this World Cup) England looked hungry, lethal, furiously fast at every level of the game against the All Blacks. At this level of the game, any team can win on any given day. I've seen every home nation play a game that's put England to shame in the past. But if they play like they did against New Zealand, the Springboks are getting fucked. I'm rooting for Wales for 3rd place, I hope there's some Taffs, Jocks and Paddy's rooting for us in the Final. It honestly sucks being the only home nation that isn't cheered on by the others. Please can we have your support for just one day? Itd mean a great deal.. win, or lose. I'll agree with you England look unbeatable. But don't forget it wasn't so long ago there was talk of Eddie Jones losing his job. Yes England looked fresher and less jaded as if they had played one test match less than everyone else. Can't think why that is... If you watched SA vs NZ you'll have noticed that apart from 7 minutes of glory the Springboks had the AB at 6s and 7s. The rush defence is nothing new but they were really intense and AB didn't even get out of their half for 20 minutes. It is no surprise that Eddie used the same tactic and to good effect. So the question is.... what happens when BOTH teams use the rush defence. What happens when both teams say "here you have the ball and we'll take it from you"? It could be interesting. Fair comment, yes England have played one less match, but I think that can work to your disadvantage as much as an advantage. I didn't see the AB vs Boks match so can't comment. I stand by what I say about the home nations though, it stings everytime. England weren’t the only team to skip a match, the reason being there was a fucking great storm blowing through that people actually died in... honestly sometimes
GK I have asked before why no one cheers us on, I cheer for all the home nations coz I’m good like that, anyway it will be all over next week
It will be, but the bitterness won't be.. sadly. It's difficult, we're asked to vote along certain lines, history plays it's part, but tomorrow is a new day. People of today aren't/shouldn't be subject to what their ancestors did before them.
Just a game.
Erm, this is sport GK, not history. I’ve just had a wee read of the thread again, I don’t see any bitterness.
People are entitled to support who they like.
its nowt to do with the thread, just something I've observed in rugby since I started playing it back in 93. England supporters cheer on every home nation, where as the Scots, Welsh and Irish support whoever we, the English are playing against.
I know it's sport and this is coming from a rather unpatriotic Englishman, but it still stings and history is often the excuse given.
Well this Welshman will be cheering on the English till the last gong goes. I hope they bring it to the Northern hemisphere. It's got nothing to do with whether I like the English or not.
Thankyou, same way I see things. I'd support the Welsh over some stinking Springboks, or atrocious All Blacks."[shakes head] | |||
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"From what I saw in those last two matches (and let's be fair, that's all I've seen of this World Cup) England looked hungry, lethal, furiously fast at every level of the game against the All Blacks. At this level of the game, any team can win on any given day. I've seen every home nation play a game that's put England to shame in the past. But if they play like they did against New Zealand, the Springboks are getting fucked. I'm rooting for Wales for 3rd place, I hope there's some Taffs, Jocks and Paddy's rooting for us in the Final. It honestly sucks being the only home nation that isn't cheered on by the others. Please can we have your support for just one day? Itd mean a great deal.. win, or lose. I'll agree with you England look unbeatable. But don't forget it wasn't so long ago there was talk of Eddie Jones losing his job. Yes England looked fresher and less jaded as if they had played one test match less than everyone else. Can't think why that is... If you watched SA vs NZ you'll have noticed that apart from 7 minutes of glory the Springboks had the AB at 6s and 7s. The rush defence is nothing new but they were really intense and AB didn't even get out of their half for 20 minutes. It is no surprise that Eddie used the same tactic and to good effect. So the question is.... what happens when BOTH teams use the rush defence. What happens when both teams say "here you have the ball and we'll take it from you"? It could be interesting. Fair comment, yes England have played one less match, but I think that can work to your disadvantage as much as an advantage. I didn't see the AB vs Boks match so can't comment. I stand by what I say about the home nations though, it stings everytime. England weren’t the only team to skip a match, the reason being there was a fucking great storm blowing through that people actually died in... honestly sometimes
GK I have asked before why no one cheers us on, I cheer for all the home nations coz I’m good like that, anyway it will be all over next week
It will be, but the bitterness won't be.. sadly. It's difficult, we're asked to vote along certain lines, history plays it's part, but tomorrow is a new day. People of today aren't/shouldn't be subject to what their ancestors did before them.
Just a game.
Erm, this is sport GK, not history. I’ve just had a wee read of the thread again, I don’t see any bitterness.
People are entitled to support who they like.
its nowt to do with the thread, just something I've observed in rugby since I started playing it back in 93. England supporters cheer on every home nation, where as the Scots, Welsh and Irish support whoever we, the English are playing against.
I know it's sport and this is coming from a rather unpatriotic Englishman, but it still stings and history is often the excuse given.
Well this Welshman will be cheering on the English till the last gong goes. I hope they bring it to the Northern hemisphere. It's got nothing to do with whether I like the English or not.
Thankyou, same way I see things. I'd support the Welsh over some stinking Springboks, or atrocious All Blacks.
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"From what I saw in those last two matches (and let's be fair, that's all I've seen of this World Cup) England looked hungry, lethal, furiously fast at every level of the game against the All Blacks. At this level of the game, any team can win on any given day. I've seen every home nation play a game that's put England to shame in the past. But if they play like they did against New Zealand, the Springboks are getting fucked. I'm rooting for Wales for 3rd place, I hope there's some Taffs, Jocks and Paddy's rooting for us in the Final. It honestly sucks being the only home nation that isn't cheered on by the others. Please can we have your support for just one day? Itd mean a great deal.. win, or lose. I'll agree with you England look unbeatable. But don't forget it wasn't so long ago there was talk of Eddie Jones losing his job. Yes England looked fresher and less jaded as if they had played one test match less than everyone else. Can't think why that is... If you watched SA vs NZ you'll have noticed that apart from 7 minutes of glory the Springboks had the AB at 6s and 7s. The rush defence is nothing new but they were really intense and AB didn't even get out of their half for 20 minutes. It is no surprise that Eddie used the same tactic and to good effect. So the question is.... what happens when BOTH teams use the rush defence. What happens when both teams say "here you have the ball and we'll take it from you"? It could be interesting. Fair comment, yes England have played one less match, but I think that can work to your disadvantage as much as an advantage. I didn't see the AB vs Boks match so can't comment. I stand by what I say about the home nations though, it stings everytime. England weren’t the only team to skip a match, the reason being there was a fucking great storm blowing through that people actually died in... honestly sometimes
GK I have asked before why no one cheers us on, I cheer for all the home nations coz I’m good like that, anyway it will be all over next week
It will be, but the bitterness won't be.. sadly. It's difficult, we're asked to vote along certain lines, history plays it's part, but tomorrow is a new day. People of today aren't/shouldn't be subject to what their ancestors did before them.
Just a game.
Erm, this is sport GK, not history. I’ve just had a wee read of the thread again, I don’t see any bitterness.
People are entitled to support who they like.
its nowt to do with the thread, just something I've observed in rugby since I started playing it back in 93. England supporters cheer on every home nation, where as the Scots, Welsh and Irish support whoever we, the English are playing against.
I know it's sport and this is coming from a rather unpatriotic Englishman, but it still stings and history is often the excuse given.
Well this Welshman will be cheering on the English till the last gong goes. I hope they bring it to the Northern hemisphere. It's got nothing to do with whether I like the English or not.
Thankyou, same way I see things. I'd support the Welsh over some stinking Springboks, or atrocious All Blacks.
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"Riiiight, can we get back on topic and maybe leave the other crap for a different thread? Wherever the results in the next two games, I’ll miss the WC and early morning games. Thank God for the Heineken Cup and Pro14. Can’t wait to get to some Munster games
Hear hear (other crap). I'm not so sure I'll miss it. As much as I love rugby and cricket, I always find I've had enough for a (short!) while once their respective world cups are over. Although just one match each day this weekend wasn't too bad, I did find multiple matches in the mornings did cut into the day a bit.
Seen some briiiant stuff this WC though and really enjoyed it."I’m Rugby obsessed. Always have been. Local clubs, provincial, national...I can’t get enough. Adore the game. | |||
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"From what I saw in those last two matches (and let's be fair, that's all I've seen of this World Cup) England looked hungry, lethal, furiously fast at every level of the game against the All Blacks. At this level of the game, any team can win on any given day. I've seen every home nation play a game that's put England to shame in the past. But if they play like they did against New Zealand, the Springboks are getting fucked. I'm rooting for Wales for 3rd place, I hope there's some Taffs, Jocks and Paddy's rooting for us in the Final. It honestly sucks being the only home nation that isn't cheered on by the others. Please can we have your support for just one day? Itd mean a great deal.. win, or lose. I'll agree with you England look unbeatable. But don't forget it wasn't so long ago there was talk of Eddie Jones losing his job. Yes England looked fresher and less jaded as if they had played one test match less than everyone else. Can't think why that is... If you watched SA vs NZ you'll have noticed that apart from 7 minutes of glory the Springboks had the AB at 6s and 7s. The rush defence is nothing new but they were really intense and AB didn't even get out of their half for 20 minutes. It is no surprise that Eddie used the same tactic and to good effect. So the question is.... what happens when BOTH teams use the rush defence. What happens when both teams say "here you have the ball and we'll take it from you"? It could be interesting. Fair comment, yes England have played one less match, but I think that can work to your disadvantage as much as an advantage. I didn't see the AB vs Boks match so can't comment. I stand by what I say about the home nations though, it stings everytime. England weren’t the only team to skip a match, the reason being there was a fucking great storm blowing through that people actually died in... honestly sometimes
GK I have asked before why no one cheers us on, I cheer for all the home nations coz I’m good like that, anyway it will be all over next week
It will be, but the bitterness won't be.. sadly. It's difficult, we're asked to vote along certain lines, history plays it's part, but tomorrow is a new day. People of today aren't/shouldn't be subject to what their ancestors did before them.
Just a game.
Erm, this is sport GK, not history. I’ve just had a wee read of the thread again, I don’t see any bitterness.
People are entitled to support who they like.
its nowt to do with the thread, just something I've observed in rugby since I started playing it back in 93. England supporters cheer on every home nation, where as the Scots, Welsh and Irish support whoever we, the English are playing against.
I know it's sport and this is coming from a rather unpatriotic Englishman, but it still stings and history is often the excuse given.
Well this Welshman will be cheering on the English till the last gong goes. I hope they bring it to the Northern hemisphere. It's got nothing to do with whether I like the English or not.
Thankyou, same way I see things. I'd support the Welsh over some stinking Springboks, or atrocious All Blacks.
Why you use those words? Sound embittered and not in the spirit of one of the last games where a family can go too without hatred and sectarianism is rife.
Sorry but using such terms for opponents isn't what I'd align myself with.
Faf De Klerk & several other great Saffa players are at Sale.
All have been exemplary in their humility & bearing when meeting fans.
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"Riiiight, can we get back on topic and maybe leave the other crap for a different thread? Wherever the results in the next two games, I’ll miss the WC and early morning games. Thank God for the Heineken Cup and Pro14. Can’t wait to get to some Munster games
Hear hear (other crap). I'm not so sure I'll miss it. As much as I love rugby and cricket, I always find I've had enough for a (short!) while once their respective world cups are over. Although just one match each day this weekend wasn't too bad, I did find multiple matches in the mornings did cut into the day a bit.
Seen some brilliant stuff this WC though and really enjoyed it.
I’m Rugby obsessed. Always have been. Local clubs, provincial, national...I can’t get enough.
Adore the game. "Good on you. I usually try to make to around 6 or 7 Premiership matches a season, although that might not happen this time. Usually mix up the venues and teams. Quite nice going to matches where you can just focus on the game without worrying too much about who wins. You really pick up the bias in the crowd at some places. I try to catch the weekend highlights on TV as well. That and the various internationals usually satisfies my need for a year | |||
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"From what I saw in those last two matches (and let's be fair, that's all I've seen of this World Cup) England looked hungry, lethal, furiously fast at every level of the game against the All Blacks. At this level of the game, any team can win on any given day. I've seen every home nation play a game that's put England to shame in the past. But if they play like they did against New Zealand, the Springboks are getting fucked. I'm rooting for Wales for 3rd place, I hope there's some Taffs, Jocks and Paddy's rooting for us in the Final. It honestly sucks being the only home nation that isn't cheered on by the others. Please can we have your support for just one day? Itd mean a great deal.. win, or lose. I'll agree with you England look unbeatable. But don't forget it wasn't so long ago there was talk of Eddie Jones losing his job. Yes England looked fresher and less jaded as if they had played one test match less than everyone else. Can't think why that is... If you watched SA vs NZ you'll have noticed that apart from 7 minutes of glory the Springboks had the AB at 6s and 7s. The rush defence is nothing new but they were really intense and AB didn't even get out of their half for 20 minutes. It is no surprise that Eddie used the same tactic and to good effect. So the question is.... what happens when BOTH teams use the rush defence. What happens when both teams say "here you have the ball and we'll take it from you"? It could be interesting. Fair comment, yes England have played one less match, but I think that can work to your disadvantage as much as an advantage. I didn't see the AB vs Boks match so can't comment. I stand by what I say about the home nations though, it stings everytime. England weren’t the only team to skip a match, the reason being there was a fucking great storm blowing through that people actually died in... honestly sometimes
GK I have asked before why no one cheers us on, I cheer for all the home nations coz I’m good like that, anyway it will be all over next week
It will be, but the bitterness won't be.. sadly. It's difficult, we're asked to vote along certain lines, history plays it's part, but tomorrow is a new day. People of today aren't/shouldn't be subject to what their ancestors did before them.
Just a game.
Erm, this is sport GK, not history. I’ve just had a wee read of the thread again, I don’t see any bitterness.
People are entitled to support who they like.
its nowt to do with the thread, just something I've observed in rugby since I started playing it back in 93. England supporters cheer on every home nation, where as the Scots, Welsh and Irish support whoever we, the English are playing against.
I know it's sport and this is coming from a rather unpatriotic Englishman, but it still stings and history is often the excuse given.
Well this Welshman will be cheering on the English till the last gong goes. I hope they bring it to the Northern hemisphere. It's got nothing to do with whether I like the English or not.
Thankyou, same way I see things. I'd support the Welsh over some stinking Springboks, or atrocious All Blacks.
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What? Say it..
*shakes head at unsaid stuff*"I'm so sorry I didn't reply quickly enough for your convenience. The shake of the head was at the 'stinking' and 'atrocious' crap you spewed earlier. Thankfully, forum rules prevent me going any further. By all means have the last say if it makes you feel bigger. | |||
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"From what I saw in those last two matches (and let's be fair, that's all I've seen of this World Cup) England looked hungry, lethal, furiously fast at every level of the game against the All Blacks. At this level of the game, any team can win on any given day. I've seen every home nation play a game that's put England to shame in the past. But if they play like they did against New Zealand, the Springboks are getting fucked. I'm rooting for Wales for 3rd place, I hope there's some Taffs, Jocks and Paddy's rooting for us in the Final. It honestly sucks being the only home nation that isn't cheered on by the others. Please can we have your support for just one day? Itd mean a great deal.. win, or lose. I'll agree with you England look unbeatable. But don't forget it wasn't so long ago there was talk of Eddie Jones losing his job. Yes England looked fresher and less jaded as if they had played one test match less than everyone else. Can't think why that is... If you watched SA vs NZ you'll have noticed that apart from 7 minutes of glory the Springboks had the AB at 6s and 7s. The rush defence is nothing new but they were really intense and AB didn't even get out of their half for 20 minutes. It is no surprise that Eddie used the same tactic and to good effect. So the question is.... what happens when BOTH teams use the rush defence. What happens when both teams say "here you have the ball and we'll take it from you"? It could be interesting. Fair comment, yes England have played one less match, but I think that can work to your disadvantage as much as an advantage. I didn't see the AB vs Boks match so can't comment. I stand by what I say about the home nations though, it stings everytime. England weren’t the only team to skip a match, the reason being there was a fucking great storm blowing through that people actually died in... honestly sometimes
GK I have asked before why no one cheers us on, I cheer for all the home nations coz I’m good like that, anyway it will be all over next week
It will be, but the bitterness won't be.. sadly. It's difficult, we're asked to vote along certain lines, history plays it's part, but tomorrow is a new day. People of today aren't/shouldn't be subject to what their ancestors did before them.
Just a game.
Erm, this is sport GK, not history. I’ve just had a wee read of the thread again, I don’t see any bitterness.
People are entitled to support who they like.
its nowt to do with the thread, just something I've observed in rugby since I started playing it back in 93. England supporters cheer on every home nation, where as the Scots, Welsh and Irish support whoever we, the English are playing against.
I know it's sport and this is coming from a rather unpatriotic Englishman, but it still stings and history is often the excuse given.
Well this Welshman will be cheering on the English till the last gong goes. I hope they bring it to the Northern hemisphere. It's got nothing to do with whether I like the English or not.
Thankyou, same way I see things. I'd support the Welsh over some stinking Springboks, or atrocious All Blacks.
Why you use those words? Sound embittered and not in the spirit of one of the last games where a family can go too without hatred and sectarianism is rife.
Sorry but using such terms for opponents isn't what I'd align myself with.
Faf De Klerk & several other great Saffa players are at Sale.
All have been exemplary in their humility & bearing when meeting fans.
That's unacceptable!!! If you can give us the names of those other Saffas then we shall try bring an end to all this humility and bearing nonsense Our apologies for any inconvenience caused."Akkers Van Der Merwre (sp?) Three Du Preez brothers Coonie Oosthuizen Jono Ross (Captain) Got Lood De Jager to come as well, think I'll need to learn Afrikaans! | |||
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"From what I saw in those last two matches (and let's be fair, that's all I've seen of this World Cup) England looked hungry, lethal, furiously fast at every level of the game against the All Blacks. At this level of the game, any team can win on any given day. I've seen every home nation play a game that's put England to shame in the past. But if they play like they did against New Zealand, the Springboks are getting fucked. I'm rooting for Wales for 3rd place, I hope there's some Taffs, Jocks and Paddy's rooting for us in the Final. It honestly sucks being the only home nation that isn't cheered on by the others. Please can we have your support for just one day? Itd mean a great deal.. win, or lose. I'll agree with you England look unbeatable. But don't forget it wasn't so long ago there was talk of Eddie Jones losing his job. Yes England looked fresher and less jaded as if they had played one test match less than everyone else. Can't think why that is... If you watched SA vs NZ you'll have noticed that apart from 7 minutes of glory the Springboks had the AB at 6s and 7s. The rush defence is nothing new but they were really intense and AB didn't even get out of their half for 20 minutes. It is no surprise that Eddie used the same tactic and to good effect. So the question is.... what happens when BOTH teams use the rush defence. What happens when both teams say "here you have the ball and we'll take it from you"? It could be interesting. Fair comment, yes England have played one less match, but I think that can work to your disadvantage as much as an advantage. I didn't see the AB vs Boks match so can't comment. I stand by what I say about the home nations though, it stings everytime. England weren’t the only team to skip a match, the reason being there was a fucking great storm blowing through that people actually died in... honestly sometimes
GK I have asked before why no one cheers us on, I cheer for all the home nations coz I’m good like that, anyway it will be all over next week
It will be, but the bitterness won't be.. sadly. It's difficult, we're asked to vote along certain lines, history plays it's part, but tomorrow is a new day. People of today aren't/shouldn't be subject to what their ancestors did before them.
Just a game.
Erm, this is sport GK, not history. I’ve just had a wee read of the thread again, I don’t see any bitterness.
People are entitled to support who they like.
its nowt to do with the thread, just something I've observed in rugby since I started playing it back in 93. England supporters cheer on every home nation, where as the Scots, Welsh and Irish support whoever we, the English are playing against.
I know it's sport and this is coming from a rather unpatriotic Englishman, but it still stings and history is often the excuse given.
Well this Welshman will be cheering on the English till the last gong goes. I hope they bring it to the Northern hemisphere. It's got nothing to do with whether I like the English or not.
Thankyou, same way I see things. I'd support the Welsh over some stinking Springboks, or atrocious All Blacks.
Why you use those words? Sound embittered and not in the spirit of one of the last games where a family can go too without hatred and sectarianism is rife.
Sorry but using such terms for opponents isn't what I'd align myself with.
Faf De Klerk & several other great Saffa players are at Sale.
All have been exemplary in their humility & bearing when meeting fans.
That's unacceptable!!! If you can give us the names of those other Saffas then we shall try bring an end to all this humility and bearing nonsense Our apologies for any inconvenience caused.
Akkers Van Der Merwre (sp?)
Three Du Preez brothers
Coonie Oosthuizen
Jono Ross (Captain)
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"From what I saw in those last two matches (and let's be fair, that's all I've seen of this World Cup) England looked hungry, lethal, furiously fast at every level of the game against the All Blacks. At this level of the game, any team can win on any given day. I've seen every home nation play a game that's put England to shame in the past. But if they play like they did against New Zealand, the Springboks are getting fucked. I'm rooting for Wales for 3rd place, I hope there's some Taffs, Jocks and Paddy's rooting for us in the Final. It honestly sucks being the only home nation that isn't cheered on by the others. Please can we have your support for just one day? Itd mean a great deal.. win, or lose. I'll agree with you England look unbeatable. But don't forget it wasn't so long ago there was talk of Eddie Jones losing his job. Yes England looked fresher and less jaded as if they had played one test match less than everyone else. Can't think why that is... If you watched SA vs NZ you'll have noticed that apart from 7 minutes of glory the Springboks had the AB at 6s and 7s. The rush defence is nothing new but they were really intense and AB didn't even get out of their half for 20 minutes. It is no surprise that Eddie used the same tactic and to good effect. So the question is.... what happens when BOTH teams use the rush defence. What happens when both teams say "here you have the ball and we'll take it from you"? It could be interesting. Fair comment, yes England have played one less match, but I think that can work to your disadvantage as much as an advantage. I didn't see the AB vs Boks match so can't comment. I stand by what I say about the home nations though, it stings everytime. England weren’t the only team to skip a match, the reason being there was a fucking great storm blowing through that people actually died in... honestly sometimes
GK I have asked before why no one cheers us on, I cheer for all the home nations coz I’m good like that, anyway it will be all over next week
It will be, but the bitterness won't be.. sadly. It's difficult, we're asked to vote along certain lines, history plays it's part, but tomorrow is a new day. People of today aren't/shouldn't be subject to what their ancestors did before them.
Just a game.
Erm, this is sport GK, not history. I’ve just had a wee read of the thread again, I don’t see any bitterness.
People are entitled to support who they like.
its nowt to do with the thread, just something I've observed in rugby since I started playing it back in 93. England supporters cheer on every home nation, where as the Scots, Welsh and Irish support whoever we, the English are playing against.
I know it's sport and this is coming from a rather unpatriotic Englishman, but it still stings and history is often the excuse given.
Well this Welshman will be cheering on the English till the last gong goes. I hope they bring it to the Northern hemisphere. It's got nothing to do with whether I like the English or not.
Thankyou, same way I see things. I'd support the Welsh over some stinking Springboks, or atrocious All Blacks.
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What? Say it..
*shakes head at unsaid stuff*
I'm so sorry I didn't reply quickly enough for your convenience. The shake of the head was at the 'stinking' and 'atrocious' crap you spewed earlier. Thankfully, forum rules prevent me going any further. By all means have the last say if it makes you feel bigger."Oh my god.. really? I give up. Have the sport all to yourself for all I care | |||
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"After the last game is played how long do the players have off before they are back for club games? One of the Fiji players was back at the Falcons only a couple of days after he left japan... " I think some, if not all, of the Munster players are back for their next game. | |||
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"After the last game is played how long do the players have off before they are back for club games? One of the Fiji players was back at the Falcons only a couple of days after he left japan... I think some, if not all, of the Munster players are back for their next game. " I guess the Scottish players will have been back at the clubs for a lot longer then | |||
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"After the last game is played how long do the players have off before they are back for club games? One of the Fiji players was back at the Falcons only a couple of days after he left japan... I think some, if not all, of the Munster players are back for their next game. I guess the Scottish players will have been back at the clubs for a lot longer then "Hogg turned out for the Chiefs Friday night....unfortunately. On that performance, do hope he's still recovering (!) from his RWC exertions (!!!), otherwise he'll be an expensive water boy! | |||
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"After the last game is played how long do the players have off before they are back for club games? One of the Fiji players was back at the Falcons only a couple of days after he left japan... I think some, if not all, of the Munster players are back for their next game. I guess the Scottish players will have been back at the clubs for a lot longer then
Hogg turned out for the Chiefs Friday night....unfortunately. On that performance, do hope he's still recovering (!) from his RWC exertions (!!!), otherwise he'll be an expensive water boy!"Hmmm I share your scepticism ... Hogg on a good day can play some thrilling rugby. Im not sure his move to Exeter is a good one, especially if he doesn't gel with the set up very quickly. Russels move to French rugby is beginning to work, as I think it has grounded him... Time will tell with Hogg at Exeter. | |||
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"After the last game is played how long do the players have off before they are back for club games? One of the Fiji players was back at the Falcons only a couple of days after he left japan... I think some, if not all, of the Munster players are back for their next game. I guess the Scottish players will have been back at the clubs for a lot longer then "To be fair, we weren’t too far behind them | |||
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"if there isn't a "head and shoulders" advert for Faf when he gets back then someone is missing a trick! "he could lead a campaign to get Timotei shampoo back on the shelves .... “So mild you can wash your hair as often as you like” | |||
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"if there isn't a "head and shoulders" advert for Faf when he gets back then someone is missing a trick! " | |||
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"Garces has been named as the referee for the final " Strange that there’s no sign of Nigel in any capacity. | |||
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"Garces has been named as the referee for the final Strange that there’s no sign of Nigel in any capacity." You didn’t get the conspiracy theory memo from World Rugny ??
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"i support England and this ones in the bag but when on previous occasions England has gone out early I've cheered Ireland, Scotland and Wales on but it would be rare for these British nations to cheer us on "I know a number of Welsh want us to win. They have said England are playing the best they have ever seen. | |||
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"Garces has been named as the referee for the final Strange that there’s no sign of Nigel in any capacity. You didn’t get the conspiracy theory memo from World Rugny ??
"Nigel is going to join Jimmy Hoffa sleeping wiff da feeshes. Why wouldn't you put a controversial ref in place of the worlds best referee. | |||
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"Garces has been named as the referee for the final " We’re doomed I tell ya.... doomed  | |||
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"So England are being fined because a couple guys stepped over the half way line when they faced the All Black's doing the Hakka. Surely their response was a natural way of accepting the challenge and throw the glove down. I know France were fined when they did it years ago, but was it right? Did they show disrespect by facing them in that way? What do others feel?" I thought it was rather petty tbh, I saw them trying to wave the players back and I wondered why, should we have fined all the spectators for singing over them a week ago | |||
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"Garces has been named as the referee for the final We’re doomed I tell ya.... doomed "John Laurie impersonations now | |||
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"So England are being fined because a couple guys stepped over the half way line when they faced the All Black's doing the Hakka. Surely their response was a natural way of accepting the challenge and throw the glove down. I know France were fined when they did it years ago, but was it right? Did they show disrespect by facing them in that way? What do others feel? I thought it was rather petty tbh, I saw them trying to wave the players back and I wondered why, should we have fined all the spectators for singing over them a week ago "The Hakka is a challenge, the opponents should therefore be allowed to respond in an appropriate manner and take up that challenge. I can see if they turned their backs on them and showed disrespect then agreed, fine them but otherwise it's going all snowflakey. | |||
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"So England are being fined because a couple guys stepped over the half way line when they faced the All Black's doing the Hakka. Surely their response was a natural way of accepting the challenge and throw the glove down. I know France were fined when they did it years ago, but was it right? Did they show disrespect by facing them in that way? What do others feel?" This just a typical example of one set of rules for the All Blacks and another set of rules for everyone else. Tbh I've lost interest. World Rugby isn't even making an effort to hide their bias. It's a joke really. | |||
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"I’m not convinced it’s bias, more like poor choices and decisions ." There's an article on Walesonline saying Nigel for the final is a "no brainer". So unless there's health reasons (or some other personal reason) why Nigel can't ref one can presume the only reason why the world's best referee isn't involved in the final is because he is being punished for reffing fairly in the last game. Garces reffing in this entire world cup has been substandard as well as one eyed. Of course some will still see the emperor's new clothes. But for me if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck... | |||
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