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Is Karma just another name for enjoyment of others' misfortune?
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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i don't think i could wish "bad" on anyone.. especially if you have been thru it yourself...
for example, when i lost my job thru no fault of mine there were some who were less that sympathetic (no one of here hasten to add)... but because i'd been thru the pain and anguish i wouldn't wish it on someone else...
sometimes it just pays to be the "bigger person"........
says the person "37 normally going on 12!"  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Good point Fabio... recently been messed about by someone who is about to put themselves in a dangerous situation... I am not impressed with their behaviour, but neither do I wish them to come to any harm. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I dont think so, people use karma when really its schadenfreude.
I believe you reap what you sow. The more positive and kind I am, the more good things happen to me. That I believe, is karma.
I believe the reverse is true as well. So karma can bring bad things on those that have not been so good.
Schadenfreude is when you enjoy someone elses pain. |
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For me it's not so much that I get pleasure out of someone else's pain - it's that there is a sense of justice, particularly when someone who has caused another person a lot of hurt by their own selfish actions, is on the receiving end in a similar circumstance. There should always be consequences for cruelty. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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my ex that cheated on me twice, the second time just before asked me to put fake tan on her, i refused saying i would mess it up, i seen her during the week after we split with the worst fake tan job ive seen in my life, her friend had done it and because it went that bad she made her stop halfway through, she was wearing a bra too for some reasoon so only half tits done, her stomach was bright white, the tan dark brown, big lines and streaks on arms and legs, was classic.
so i definetally enjoyed that and classic case of karma as the lad she cheated on me dumped her after their streaky date and it was obvious becasue she was a state and couldnt get it to wash off haha
the days after she tried twice (with different products as well so was never going to match lol) and made it worse,
and yeah like ya say they good side to karma as well! but when its something harmless like that, or someone cheating on you and they get cheated on or diteched by them people, then i think that sort of karma is the one to enjoy, not someone getting hurt badly but only someone having something they shouldnt of done backfiring on them when they deserved it! |
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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago
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"I dont think so, people use karma when really its schadenfreude.
I believe you reap what you sow. The more positive and kind I am, the more good things happen to me. That I believe, is karma.
I believe the reverse is true as well. So karma can bring bad things on those that have not been so good.
Schadenfreude is when you enjoy someone elses pain. "
Agree with you there  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I don't believe in Karma at all and go with the reap what you sow philosophy. Karma wouldn't have allowed hitler to shoot himself.
As soon as you add karma to the mix you take away free will. In my opinion. |
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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago
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"I don't believe in Karma at all and go with the reap what you sow philosophy. Karma wouldn't have allowed hitler to shoot himself.
As soon as you add karma to the mix you take away free will. In my opinion. "
Could you explain please why it would take away free will? I dont quite follow that conclusion. Thanks |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I don't believe in Karma at all and go with the reap what you sow philosophy. Karma wouldn't have allowed hitler to shoot himself.
As soon as you add karma to the mix you take away free will. In my opinion. Could you explain please why it would take away free will? I dont quite follow that conclusion. Thanks "
Simply, if there was some great Karma dictating what happens to us we are not in control. I might choose to not Buy the big issue one day, the next thing I'm homeless, when I might have bought the big issue the following day. How does Karma know?? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I quiet didnt understand what was going on here. Karma dosent have to do anything with what you all are talking about. Its all about ourself, our deeds, actions.
Its as simple as this 'We reap what we sow' Tomorrow is the consequence of what we think and do today.
Here This think and do are the karma. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"losophy. Karma wouldn't have allowed hitler to shoot himself.
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Why??...He would have received bad karma in his next incarnation..for his previous bad deeds AND for taking his own life. Cause and Effect |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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An interesting way of looking at it although many enjoy someone's misfortune without knowledge if if they have lived a devout or evil life. Karma is the resulting action of fate's retribution to me and often isn't seen by others. The word more appropriate is gloating. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Well guys most of you seem to have misinterpreted Karma."
Can you explain your interpretation of it to me then please?
I posted my thread in response to the current thread about Karma as it seemed to be more about revelling in others' misfortune that what I think of as Karma... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Karma is total bullshit.
Free Will is simply not possible.
The only thing we have are simple choices.
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aren't all tenets of religion bullshit? altho on the face of it Buddhism seems to be a lot less bullshit than,oh i dunno,Christianity maybe |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Karma is total bullshit.
Free Will is simply not possible.
The only thing we have are simple choices.
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Simple people have simple choices but it doesn't equate to the whole population. Many have complex decisions to make in life that effect thousands of others lives. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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isnt karma just what people invent in their head to help them cope with the probability that the world is shitty sometimes and isnt fair so we hope karma will get them in the end and we dont have to worry about it so much? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Its a philosophy, trying to show people a better way of living and coping with the situations. it teaches people to be a positive contributor to the wellbeing of society as a whole |
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"Karma is total bullshit.
Free Will is simply not possible.
The only thing we have are simple choices.
Simple people have simple choices but it doesn't equate to the whole population. Many have complex decisions to make in life that effect thousands of others lives. "
There are only ever simple choices. People may like to portray them as complex but they are not. |
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"Karma is total bullshit.
Free Will is simply not possible.
The only thing we have are simple choices.
aren't all tenets of religion bullshit? altho on the face of it Buddhism seems to be a lot less bullshit than,oh i dunno,Christianity maybe"
Agreed but then Buddhism is not a religion xx |
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"isnt karma just what people invent in their head to help them cope with the probability that the world is shitty sometimes and isnt fair so we hope karma will get them in the end and we dont have to worry about it so much?"
That's the closest anyone has come to yet. Your arse shall be kissed. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Karma is total bullshit.
Free Will is simply not possible.
The only thing we have are simple choices.
aren't all tenets of religion bullshit? altho on the face of it Buddhism seems to be a lot less bullshit than,oh i dunno,Christianity maybe
Agreed but then Buddhism is not a religion xx"
I'll think you'll find it is. not in the western sense but a religion all the same. don't let the philosophy aspect blind ya |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Is karma just another name ....
Isn't karma just what people....
Instant karma's gonna get yer, gonna knock you right on the head .....
Dr Winston O'Boogie"
Karma is an age old philosophy of life. Many have interpreted it differently and some have even used this philosophy for their own material benefits n some even have assumed its a diety.
Crazy world |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Right guys, keep discussing about it if any one want to discuss about such general life issues get in touch you are always welcome before 21:30. I dont say I am expert, I am interested to discuss n share opinions not to quarrel.
Now its time for my porn n sleep, |
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"Karma is total bullshit.
Free Will is simply not possible.
The only thing we have are simple choices.
aren't all tenets of religion bullshit? altho on the face of it Buddhism seems to be a lot less bullshit than,oh i dunno,Christianity maybe
Agreed but then Buddhism is not a religion xx
I'll think you'll find it is. not in the western sense but a religion all the same. don't let the philosophy aspect blind ya"
I think you'll find the jury is still out on that one.
I am in the school that does not recognise Buddhism as a religion.
A lot hangs on your definition of religion. |
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"Right guys, keep discussing about it if any one want to discuss about such general life issues get in touch you are always welcome before 21:30. I dont say I am expert, I am interested to discuss n share opinions not to quarrel.
Now its time for my porn n sleep, "
How will we cope without you ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Right guys, keep discussing about it if any one want to discuss about such general life issues get in touch you are always welcome before 21:30. I dont say I am expert, I am interested to discuss n share opinions not to quarrel.
Now its time for my porn n sleep,
How will we cope without you ?"
cope with me? for what? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Karma is total bullshit.
Free Will is simply not possible.
The only thing we have are simple choices.
aren't all tenets of religion bullshit? altho on the face of it Buddhism seems to be a lot less bullshit than,oh i dunno,Christianity maybe
Agreed but then Buddhism is not a religion xx
I'll think you'll find it is. not in the western sense but a religion all the same. don't let the philosophy aspect blind ya
I think you'll find the jury is still out on that one.
I am in the school that does not recognise Buddhism as a religion.
A lot hangs on your definition of religion."
I'm in the school that doesn't recognise christianity in any shape of form
it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
apart from the fact buddhism isn't a monotheism it no less valic than any of the major religions |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"isnt karma just what people invent in their head to help them cope with the probability that the world is shitty sometimes and isnt fair so we hope karma will get them in the end and we dont have to worry about it so much?
That's the closest anyone has come to yet. Your arse shall be kissed. "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"losophy. Karma wouldn't have allowed hitler to shoot himself.
Why??...He would have received bad karma in his next incarnation..for his previous bad deeds AND for taking his own life. Cause and Effect"
Hitler gets another incarnation? What's fair in that? Does he come back and suffer some genocide?? Karma is bollocks. He was an evil man and a coward and got off light. I am sure you don't mean to imply that those who suffer with chronic depression and take their lives deserve to be punished further ?? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Karma is total bullshit.
Free Will is simply not possible.
The only thing we have are simple choices.
aren't all tenets of religion bullshit? altho on the face of it Buddhism seems to be a lot less bullshit than,oh i dunno,Christianity maybe
Agreed but then Buddhism is not a religion xx
I'll think you'll find it is. not in the western sense but a religion all the same. don't let the philosophy aspect blind ya
I think you'll find the jury is still out on that one.
I am in the school that does not recognise Buddhism as a religion.
A lot hangs on your definition of religion.
I'm in the school that doesn't recognise christianity in any shape of form
it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
apart from the fact buddhism isn't a monotheism it no less valic than any of the major religions"
All religions are just a compilation of some history, basic guidelines and deep philosophies for a better society. so its about how we interpret these n use in our daily life to become a better social being. Good night |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"losophy. Karma wouldn't have allowed hitler to shoot himself.
Why??...He would have received bad karma in his next incarnation..for his previous bad deeds AND for taking his own life. Cause and Effect
Hitler gets another incarnation? What's fair in that? Does he come back and suffer some genocide?? Karma is bollocks. He was an evil man and a coward and got off light. I am sure you don't mean to imply that those who suffer with chronic depression and take their lives deserve to be punished further ?? "
I didn't say anyone deserved anything |
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"Karma is total bullshit.
Free Will is simply not possible.
The only thing we have are simple choices.
aren't all tenets of religion bullshit? altho on the face of it Buddhism seems to be a lot less bullshit than,oh i dunno,Christianity maybe
Agreed but then Buddhism is not a religion xx
I'll think you'll find it is. not in the western sense but a religion all the same. don't let the philosophy aspect blind ya
I think you'll find the jury is still out on that one.
I am in the school that does not recognise Buddhism as a religion.
A lot hangs on your definition of religion.
I'm in the school that doesn't recognise christianity in any shape of form
it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
apart from the fact buddhism isn't a monotheism it no less valic than any of the major religions"
I didn't say Buddhism doesnt' exist. Jesus..talk about twisting stuff.
Buddhism exists but it's not a religion under my favoured definition of religion.
I don't follow the Christian faith either but it exists as a religion.
Buddhism doesn't |
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"Karma is total bullshit.
Free Will is simply not possible.
The only thing we have are simple choices.
aren't all tenets of religion bullshit? altho on the face of it Buddhism seems to be a lot less bullshit than,oh i dunno,Christianity maybe
Agreed but then Buddhism is not a religion xx
I'll think you'll find it is. not in the western sense but a religion all the same. don't let the philosophy aspect blind ya
I think you'll find the jury is still out on that one.
I am in the school that does not recognise Buddhism as a religion.
A lot hangs on your definition of religion.
I'm in the school that doesn't recognise christianity in any shape of form
it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
apart from the fact buddhism isn't a monotheism it no less valic than any of the major religions
All religions are just a compilation of some history, basic guidelines and deep philosophies for a better society. so its about how we interpret these n use in our daily life to become a better social being. Good night "
Wholly inaccurate |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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for karma to exist that would mean there is no need to punish anyone for any crime, it would also mean people's lives are controlled by somebody/thing other than themselves and the choices they make
i suspect nobody would argue for the release of every pedophile, murderer and rapist that is currently in jail which means they dont really believe in karma
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Karma is total bullshit.
Free Will is simply not possible.
The only thing we have are simple choices.
aren't all tenets of religion bullshit? altho on the face of it Buddhism seems to be a lot less bullshit than,oh i dunno,Christianity maybe
Agreed but then Buddhism is not a religion xx
I'll think you'll find it is. not in the western sense but a religion all the same. don't let the philosophy aspect blind ya
I think you'll find the jury is still out on that one.
I am in the school that does not recognise Buddhism as a religion.
A lot hangs on your definition of religion.
I'm in the school that doesn't recognise christianity in any shape of form
it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
apart from the fact buddhism isn't a monotheism it no less valic than any of the major religions
I didn't say Buddhism doesnt' exist. Jesus..talk about twisting stuff.
Buddhism exists but it's not a religion under my favoured definition of religion.
I don't follow the Christian faith either but it exists as a religion.
Buddhism doesn't "
feel free to send me a list of religions as favoured by you..don't include christianity tho. we already know thats bits of other religions and beliefs cherry picked and taiolored to fit |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"losophy. Karma wouldn't have allowed hitler to shoot himself.
Why??...He would have received bad karma in his next incarnation..for his previous bad deeds AND for taking his own life. Cause and Effect
Hitler gets another incarnation? What's fair in that? Does he come back and suffer some genocide?? Karma is bollocks. He was an evil man and a coward and got off light. I am sure you don't mean to imply that those who suffer with chronic depression and take their lives deserve to be punished further ??
I didn't say anyone deserved anything"
No but you said that he would get bad karma in his next incarnation for taking his own life.
Sorry, I'm just in an arsey mood tonight.  |
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And how come Hitler gets all the attention, has Stalin ever upset anyone?
Others are available, Noriega, Saddam ,that Romanian one who's name i can't spell etc
Please feel free to add yer own. "
Karmadaffi .....he was one |
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By (user no longer on site)
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No but you said that he would get bad karma in his next incarnation for taking his own life.
Sorry, I'm just in an arsey mood tonight. "
The catholic church says much the same thing..in fact it calls suicide an atrocious crime,so if a devout catholic commits suicide what does he think is coming his way? and before anyone jumps on me i don't believe it as i'm not religious (according to some anyway) and my son in law took his own life. do i think he's being punished for it? no,of course not |
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No but you said that he would get bad karma in his next incarnation for taking his own life.
Sorry, I'm just in an arsey mood tonight.
The catholic church says much the same thing..in fact it calls suicide an atrocious crime,so if a devout catholic commits suicide what does he think is coming his way? and before anyone jumps on me i don't believe it as i'm not religious (according to some anyway) and my son in law took his own life. do i think he's being punished for it? no,of course not"
I am sorry. My comments were insensitive. It was not my intention. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I am sorry. My comments were insensitive. It was not my intention. "
no need to apologise, he topped himself. some think that will have a knock on effect for him in the afterlife. I don't |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Well, before i turn to a local religion i want a down payment, a deposit of at least 10% of the 72 virgins that will be waiting for me.
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72 virgins where the hell did they pluck up a figure of 72 from then?. That says to me that theres a comitte involved somewere in this |
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Well, before i turn to a local religion i want a down payment, a deposit of at least 10% of the 72 virgins that will be waiting for me.
72 virgins where the hell did they pluck up a figure of 72 from then?. That says to me that theres a comitte involved somewere in this"
Easy, nine 8's |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I smile at them who dont like/do all the Karma stuff. I reckon that them who dont like it have most to fear from it. Evil barstewards shite thine self. "
lol maybe your right.. x weird how it works . |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I smile at them who dont like/do all the Karma stuff. I reckon that them who dont like it have most to fear from it. Evil barstewards shite thine self. lol maybe your right.. x weird how it works ."
I know i am right but there and again we all smile at some others fuckers misfortune now and again. I do thats why i wear my tin helmet mondays thursdays and sundays.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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i wouldnt say i enjoy it, i just think to myself, now you know what its like to be treated badly. most people dont change though, they dont think they have done anything wrong, even if they have. |
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