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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
The PCC for Devon and Cornwall wants the victims of wolf whistles to call 999. Every year they publish a list of time wasting 999 calls like spiders in the bath and late pizza. She also wants ageism and misogyny added to the list of hate crimes. No mention of misandry... |
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over a year ago
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I hate being wolf whistled at, it’s creepy and there’s no need. I’m not one of those people who see it as a compliment, bloody shoot me.
However, there’s no need whatsoever to call 999, if it’s *just* a wolf whistle.
My friend is a police officer and he was working the main uni weekend last week. Three women reported him because they got wolf whistled at, they told him, he did have a word with the man (it was pretty consistent) and asked him to stop, leave them alone or move along, but the three women reported him as he wouldn’t arrest the man... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I don’t see what the big deal is, I get women shouting and getting rowdy at me when I’m cutting grass outside the offices. Must think it’s a Diet Coke advert but I just get on with the rest my day. Everyone different I suppose on how they react and deal with things. |
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I can't whistle anyway, but..
Women who feel intimidated or uncomfortable with it shouldn't have to put up with it at all. Too many negative gender stereotypes/reduction /objectification going on, even if some women like it. Kind of like a consent thing needed really, which isn't possible with strangers(therefore don't do it).
However, I think instructing them to call 999 is an unnecessary extra burden on police resources in call centres, and on constables. 999 is designed to primarily be for emergencies(ie potentially life threatening situations or risk of harm) only, which looked at objectively, this isn't.
I agree something needs to bee done here, but it's probably going to be more successful if achieved in a societal way through changes in behaviour, education and general enlightenment regarding sexism and patriarchy.
Aaki g if I as a man would enjoy it if done to me (I would)is irrelevant. Because I'm not a woman means that I aam not subject to the constant day to day belittling and manipulation of my own identity, self worth and by many parts of what makes up and shapes our day to day life.
Sorry. Essay.. |
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By *hechapMan
over a year ago
Derry |
"The world has changed what used to be
acceptable isnt anymore.
I've whistled in the past but wouldnt now.
But a 999 call !"
Some people have little to bother them!
999.... hello the police how can i help.
Yes someone whistled at me.
Ok madam we will be out straight away.
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999... hello the police how can i help?
Yes someone is breaking into my house.
Ok madam we will get out but dont know when.
We are all out chasing wolf whistlers...
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"I can't whistle anyway, but..
Women who feel intimidated or uncomfortable with it shouldn't have to put up with it at all. Too many negative gender stereotypes/reduction /objectification going on, even if some women like it. Kind of like a consent thing needed really, which isn't possible with strangers(therefore don't do it).
However, I think instructing them to call 999 is an unnecessary extra burden on police resources in call centres, and on constables. 999 is designed to primarily be for emergencies(ie potentially life threatening situations or risk of harm) only, which looked at objectively, this isn't.
I agree something needs to bee done here, but it's probably going to be more successful if achieved in a societal way through changes in behaviour, education and general enlightenment regarding sexism and patriarchy.
Aaki g if I as a man would enjoy it if done to me (I would)is irrelevant. Because I'm not a woman means that I aam not subject to the constant day to day belittling and manipulation of my own identity, self worth and by many parts of what makes up and shapes our day to day life.
Sorry. Essay.. "
Well said. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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What is the world coming to if we call 999 for petty things like this the police won't have the time to pull up speeding drivers and make money for the system. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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And I've heard if a man holds a door open for a woman it's sexist now. Over the top?
I think we all should ease off a little and stop for a second to consider what is really unacceptable.
I'm not saying wolf whistling is acceptable every time but there are times when it is. Just recognise those times. |
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By *hechapMan
over a year ago
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"What is the world coming to if we call 999 for petty things like this the police won't have the time to pull up speeding drivers and make money for the system. "
Dont worry revenue collection from the motorist will still be the same. You will still be able to fund the systym. |
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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago
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"The PCC for Devon and Cornwall wants the victims of wolf whistles to call 999. Every year they publish a list of time wasting 999 calls like spiders in the bath and late pizza. She also wants ageism and misogyny added to the list of hate crimes. No mention of misandry... "
That is quite a strawman you've made, well done. Lets see I see the similar headlines in the Mail, Telegraph and Sun. What she actually says call 999 if 'you've ever felt unsafe or felt threatened on the street'
To frame it as call 999 if you someone wolf whistles at you is misleading, the inference is clear, reporting these incidents stop the police for investigating 'genuine crimes' like burglary. |
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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago
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"I can't whistle anyway, but..
Women who feel intimidated or uncomfortable with it shouldn't have to put up with it at all. Too many negative gender stereotypes/reduction /objectification going on, even if some women like it. Kind of like a consent thing needed really, which isn't possible with strangers(therefore don't do it).
However, I think instructing them to call 999 is an unnecessary extra burden on police resources in call centres, and on constables. 999 is designed to primarily be for emergencies(ie potentially life threatening situations or risk of harm) only, which looked at objectively, this isn't.
I agree something needs to bee done here, but it's probably going to be more successful if achieved in a societal way through changes in behaviour, education and general enlightenment regarding sexism and patriarchy.
Aaki g if I as a man would enjoy it if done to me (I would)is irrelevant. Because I'm not a woman means that I aam not subject to the constant day to day belittling and manipulation of my own identity, self worth and by many parts of what makes up and shapes our day to day life.
Sorry. Essay.. "
I agree with you |
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Wasnt this in response to a few young school girls who recorded themselves for a few weeks. They were getting lots of wolf whistles from grown men and they were only 14 & 15 and wearing school uniforms!!
That 100% deserves a 999 call. As for a grown woman definetley not a 999 call. I have always found the best response is "dont I know your wife?"
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"The PCC for Devon and Cornwall wants the victims of wolf whistles to call 999. Every year they publish a list of time wasting 999 calls like spiders in the bath and late pizza. She also wants ageism and misogyny added to the list of hate crimes. No mention of misandry...
That is quite a strawman you've made, well done. Lets see I see the similar headlines in the Mail, Telegraph and Sun. What she actually says call 999 if 'you've ever felt unsafe or felt threatened on the street'
To frame it as call 999 if you someone wolf whistles at you is misleading, the inference is clear, reporting these incidents stop the police for investigating 'genuine crimes' like burglary."
I am not sure all police forces investigate burglary any more. When I was burgled a neighbour took pictures of the vehicle that looked suspicious. It had a company logo on the side. I traced the company on Facebook. Scrap company that also did tarmac and tree surgery. I rang my community policeman. Nothing to do with us. Ring 101.
40 minutes ringing and no answer. Tried later no answer. Tried later and got through and reported it. Four days later the plod turned up..
Probably busy...
In fairness I don't blame the police. There are none left. And those who are left will be dealing with wolf whistlers. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"Wasnt this in response to a few young school girls who recorded themselves for a few weeks. They were getting lots of wolf whistles from grown men and they were only 14 & 15 and wearing school uniforms!!
That 100% deserves a 999 call. As for a grown woman definetley not a 999 call. I have always found the best response is "dont I know your wife?"
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Brilliant riposte.
Of course if people, male or female, feel threatened by wolf whistlers then if course they should be able to report it to the police. The message I fear however, is that people will report it not because they feel threatened but because they can...
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"There are bigger things to worry about!!
Ignore and move on. Learn to look after yourself instead of expecting someone else to do it for you. "
Would that be Wallaby Winks ? Kangaroo Kisses ?
Some fucking HUGE Kangaroos out there. |
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"The PCC for Devon and Cornwall wants the victims of wolf whistles to call 999. Every year they publish a list of time wasting 999 calls like spiders in the bath and late pizza. She also wants ageism and misogyny added to the list of hate crimes. No mention of misandry...
That is quite a strawman you've made, well done. Lets see I see the similar headlines in the Mail, Telegraph and Sun. What she actually says call 999 if 'you've ever felt unsafe or felt threatened on the street'
To frame it as call 999 if you someone wolf whistles at you is misleading, the inference is clear, reporting these incidents stop the police for investigating 'genuine crimes' like burglary."
Thank GOD for people who let FACTS inform them.
Whit Whoooooooooooo to you ..... x |
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Ok, I know I’m going against the grain here but calling the emergency services over a wolf whistle?! If he’s following me home whilst whistling then yes, I’d feel threatened. If he touched me or exposed himself then yes, I’d feel threatened. But feeling harassed or threatened by a wolf whistle? I might blush a bit or laugh but that would be it. It wouldn’t excite me but it certainly would not offend or upset me.
And if my teenage daughter came home distressed about a wolf whistle I’d be upset with myself for not building on her resilience and self-defence.
Lou x |
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"I don’t see what the big deal is, I get women shouting and getting rowdy at me when I’m cutting grass outside the offices. Must think it’s a Diet Coke advert but I just get on with the rest my day. Everyone different I suppose on how they react and deal with things." this is a prime example of how women don't like to be objectified but will then do the same to guys.
i think 999 for a wolf whistle is a bit much... if its just that then many women would just smile and not worry.
Not all women like it and to be fair I think its a out dated practice now. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
I have just read an article posted on the Devon and Cornwall PCC website with a link to a BBC news item.
The PCC has been totally misrepresented by some newspapers including The Sun and the Daily Mail. I read the Sun in a cafe earlier today.
What actually happened was that a young lady was cycling and a car drove at the cyclists speed, wound down the window and told the girl what he would do sexually. She felt threatened as most people would. The PCC merely said that if she felt threatened then she should contact the police. The PCC has asked the newspapers to retract the article. It was a totally misleading article in the paper and I, as a reader, feel duped and embarrassed for raising it on here.
My apologies.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The world has changed what used to be
acceptable isnt anymore.
I've whistled in the past but wouldnt now.
But a 999 call !
Some people have little to bother them!
999.... hello the police how can i help.
Yes someone whistled at me.
Ok madam we will be out straight away.
................................
999... hello the police how can i help?
Yes someone is breaking into my house.
Ok madam we will get out but dont know when.
We are all out chasing wolf whistlers...
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By *SAchickWoman
over a year ago
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"I have just read an article posted on the Devon and Cornwall PCC website with a link to a BBC news item.
The PCC has been totally misrepresented by some newspapers including The Sun and the Daily Mail. I read the Sun in a cafe earlier today.
What actually happened was that a young lady was cycling and a car drove at the cyclists speed, wound down the window and told the girl what he would do sexually. She felt threatened as most people would. The PCC merely said that if she felt threatened then she should contact the police. The PCC has asked the newspapers to retract the article. It was a totally misleading article in the paper and I, as a reader, feel duped and embarrassed for raising it on here.
My apologies.
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That'll teach you for believing a story you read in The Sun! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"And I've heard if a man holds a door open for a woman it's sexist now. Over the top?
I think we all should ease off a little and stop for a second to consider what is really unacceptable.
I'm not saying wolf whistling is acceptable every time but there are times when it is. Just recognise those times." |
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Like one of the guys above, women often shout and whistle at me, specially if it is an all woman affair like a hen party, or university students/trainees in a female dominated course.
If building was a female dominated profession, then they would wolf whistle down at men. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Like one of the guys above, women often shout and whistle at me, specially if it is an all woman affair like a hen party, or university students/trainees in a female dominated course.
If building was a female dominated profession, then they would wolf whistle down at men."
It's ok for women to wolf whistle at, or grope, men. Men should expect it. They want it.
It's only a crime when men do it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"There are bigger things to worry about!!
Ignore and move on. Learn to look after yourself instead of expecting someone else to do it for you. "
That's one of the problems with a nanny state. Fewer people know how too because of legislation and criminalising of people with minor issues and bigger issues washed away. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The PCC for Devon and Cornwall wants the victims of wolf whistles to call 999. Every year they publish a list of time wasting 999 calls like spiders in the bath and late pizza. She also wants ageism and misogyny added to the list of hate crimes. No mention of misandry...
That is quite a strawman you've made, well done. Lets see I see the similar headlines in the Mail, Telegraph and Sun. What she actually says call 999 if 'you've ever felt unsafe or felt threatened on the street'
To frame it as call 999 if you someone wolf whistles at you is misleading, the inference is clear, reporting these incidents stop the police for investigating 'genuine crimes' like burglary.
I am not sure all police forces investigate burglary any more. When I was burgled a neighbour took pictures of the vehicle that looked suspicious. It had a company logo on the side. I traced the company on Facebook. Scrap company that also did tarmac and tree surgery. I rang my community policeman. Nothing to do with us. Ring 101.
40 minutes ringing and no answer. Tried later no answer. Tried later and got through and reported it. Four days later the plod turned up..
Probably busy...
In fairness I don't blame the police. There are none left. And those who are left will be dealing with wolf whistlers. "
The only police resources that will be diverted to the wolf-whistling mega-investigations will be those released from the onerous task of investigating hurt feelings online. People dialling 999 these days shouldn't expect an actual policeperson to turn up - they only want women to do it because they get Tesco clubcard points every time someone dials 999. |
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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago
Derry |
"The PCC for Devon and Cornwall wants the victims of wolf whistles to call 999. Every year they publish a list of time wasting 999 calls like spiders in the bath and late pizza. She also wants ageism and misogyny added to the list of hate crimes. No mention of misandry...
That is quite a strawman you've made, well done. Lets see I see the similar headlines in the Mail, Telegraph and Sun. What she actually says call 999 if 'you've ever felt unsafe or felt threatened on the street'
To frame it as call 999 if you someone wolf whistles at you is misleading, the inference is clear, reporting these incidents stop the police for investigating 'genuine crimes' like burglary.
I am not sure all police forces investigate burglary any more. When I was burgled a neighbour took pictures of the vehicle that looked suspicious. It had a company logo on the side. I traced the company on Facebook. Scrap company that also did tarmac and tree surgery. I rang my community policeman. Nothing to do with us. Ring 101.
40 minutes ringing and no answer. Tried later no answer. Tried later and got through and reported it. Four days later the plod turned up..
Probably busy...
In fairness I don't blame the police. There are none left. And those who are left will be dealing with wolf whistlers.
The only police resources that will be diverted to the wolf-whistling mega-investigations will be those released from the onerous task of investigating hurt feelings online. People dialling 999 these days shouldn't expect an actual policeperson to turn up - they only want women to do it because they get Tesco clubcard points every time someone dials 999."
Another strawman. Police don't have the budget or resources due to conservative spending cuts. But if you want to believe it is because of hurt feelings or wolf whistling being prioritised over 999 calls then all I can do is sigh and slowly shake my head. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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Well they seem to spend millions investigating historic crimes when the perpetrators are deceased with only a small chance of convicting them..
Try and get one to turn out for a burglary. Unless of course you are a homeowner defending your family and property... They will be there is seconds |
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"Well they seem to spend millions investigating historic crimes when the perpetrators are deceased with only a small chance of convicting them..
Try and get one to turn out for a burglary. Unless of course you are a homeowner defending your family and property... They will be there is seconds"
Just because its historic does not make it less of a crime! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ok, I know I’m going against the grain here but calling the emergency services over a wolf whistle?! If he’s following me home whilst whistling then yes, I’d feel threatened. If he touched me or exposed himself then yes, I’d feel threatened. But feeling harassed or threatened by a wolf whistle? I might blush a bit or laugh but that would be it. It wouldn’t excite me but it certainly would not offend or upset me.
And if my teenage daughter came home distressed about a wolf whistle I’d be upset with myself for not building on her resilience and self-defence.
Lou x "
Agreed. Calling 999 for this reason is absurd and a complete waste of an already stretched public service. Nonsense |
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By *hechapMan
over a year ago
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Whiiiiittttt whoooooo.
Whoooooooo wiiitttttttt.
Please dont ring the poal-ice.
I am only joking. I dont mean it.
I dont want to threaten anyone or hurt your feelings especially if you happen to be a snowflake.
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