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Yes, because we all need to relieve ourselves and the song and dance about who can pee where doesn't really matter in the grand scheme. Helps parents with opposite sex children, too.
Cubicles make it a complete non issue. |
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over a year ago
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They're not a new thing. Every club I ever went to in the 90s had one massive toilet for everyone. Urinals one end cubicles the other. Nobody batted an eyelid then, why do they now? |
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"Not a problem, as long as the cubicle walls & doors were floor to ceiling. And guys didn't piss everywhere, leaving the place smelling rank..  "
To be fair, I've seen some horrific women's bathrooms. |
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By *isaB45Woman
over a year ago
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"Not a problem, as long as the cubicle walls & doors were floor to ceiling. And guys didn't piss everywhere, leaving the place smelling rank..
To be fair, I've seen some horrific women's bathrooms."
This is true.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Not a problem, as long as the cubicle walls & doors were floor to ceiling. And guys didn't piss everywhere, leaving the place smelling rank.. "
That's a huge huge expectation and I would say almost impossible.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Doesn’t bother me as long as it’s all cubicles.
I wouldn't care about urinals if they had it behind a half wall or something."
I wouldn’t but wouldn’t want my girls seeing men having a wee to be honest |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Do you think it’s a more private thing? I mean for younger children I feel there not appropriate, maybe an adults and children’s rest rooms would be more appropriate? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Do you think it’s a more private thing? I mean for younger children I feel there not appropriate, maybe an adults and children’s rest rooms would be more appropriate?"
Yes this! A separate children’s one. So both men and women can take their children in regardless of boy or girl |
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Gender neutral toilets are fine from my experience and evidence that I know of. Their use is fairly widespread, from church halls to educational establishments, people of all ages. It's often discussed as a scary thing by bigots though. It also can more fairly ensure that everyone gets access to available facilities, preventing some people having to queue whilst free resources are available. |
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"Do you think it’s a more private thing? I mean for younger children I feel there not appropriate, maybe an adults and children’s rest rooms would be more appropriate?
Yes this! A separate children’s one. So both men and women can take their children in regardless of boy or girl "
Oh buggar. I said boy or girl! Are you still allowed to say that??  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Do you think it’s a more private thing? I mean for younger children I feel there not appropriate, maybe an adults and children’s rest rooms would be more appropriate?
Yes this! A separate children’s one. So both men and women can take their children in regardless of boy or girl "
Yes, I feel uncomfortable taking my daughter into a men’s bathroom, some places have a family room, but not all. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Do you think it’s a more private thing? I mean for younger children I feel there not appropriate, maybe an adults and children’s rest rooms would be more appropriate?
Yes this! A separate children’s one. So both men and women can take their children in regardless of boy or girl
Oh buggar. I said boy or girl! Are you still allowed to say that?? "
Yes. |
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"Doesn’t bother me as long as it’s all cubicles.
I wouldn't care about urinals if they had it behind a half wall or something.
I wouldn’t but wouldn’t want my girls seeing men having a wee to be honest "
Having two young girls I totally agree with this ! X |
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"How does it work with all the urinals etc?
I think it would have to be all cubicles. You can’t have urinals in a mixed toilet! No way "
It happened in my day. Urinals at one end of a long narrow room, mostly hidden unless you walked all the way up there. Tons of cubicles, wash basins at the opposite end to the urinals... |
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"How does it work with all the urinals etc?
I think it would have to be all cubicles. You can’t have urinals in a mixed toilet! No way
It happened in my day. Urinals at one end of a long narrow room, mostly hidden unless you walked all the way up there. Tons of cubicles, wash basins at the opposite end to the urinals... "
I don’t remember that! My day wasn’t that far away from your day  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"How does it work with all the urinals etc?
I think it would have to be all cubicles. You can’t have urinals in a mixed toilet! No way
It happened in my day. Urinals at one end of a long narrow room, mostly hidden unless you walked all the way up there. Tons of cubicles, wash basins at the opposite end to the urinals...
I don’t remember that! My day wasn’t that far away from your day "
Interesting. I'm sure I wasn't that f***ed up that I invented it. Maybe I did, |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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A toilet is a toilet.
We use gender-neutral premises all the time - at home, on a train, a bus.
Some places here in Bristol are copying the Spanish style and just designating a toilet area without gender demarcation.
I guess the issue really only becomes sore when there are large crowds and therefore a large number of facilities are required, causing people to congregate,
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By (user no longer on site)
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"How does it work with all the urinals etc?
I think it would have to be all cubicles. You can’t have urinals in a mixed toilet! No way
It happened in my day. Urinals at one end of a long narrow room, mostly hidden unless you walked all the way up there. Tons of cubicles, wash basins at the opposite end to the urinals...
I don’t remember that! My day wasn’t that far away from your day
Interesting. I'm sure I wasn't that f***ed up that I invented it. Maybe I did, "
Hahaha. Yep! I was always totally sober in those days.  . I honestly never fell asleep with a urinal as a pillow. |
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I’m not keen on them, based on experience. Piss all over the floor and seat usually. I hate standing on the wet floor knowing it’s piss, and if I’m wearing trousers then the hem of each leg dips in it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Don't see a problem..better for cubicles. .men don't need to stand and my gf does say she always picks her dress up if there are urinals..she thinks us guys should shake it more over the urinals lolol  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Yes, because we all need to relieve ourselves and the song and dance about who can pee where doesn't really matter in the grand scheme. Helps parents with opposite sex children, too.
Cubicles make it a complete non issue."
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think it’s a terrible idea, What’s the problem with the system we have now and have had for as long as any of us know? If it isn’t broke don’t fix it comes to mind. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I've have no problem with GN toilets, but I would be a bit concerned about them being stand-alone ones on the street. The issue is not with cubicles, but the area by the sinks where some women may feel unsafe next to men. Women use these areas for things other than hand washing. Also, GN toilets can be exclusive to members of certain faiths, both residents of the UK and visitors.
Quote from an online article I read - "some Islamic, Hindu, and Orthodox Jewish women are forbidden to share public toilet buildings with male strangers, especially when menstruating." |
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By (user no longer on site)
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When I was a kid and lived in France all the public toilets, where I was, were gender neutral and not sure why people think it's wrong for kids? Surely if you grow up with them being normal, why would it affect them? They have them in lots of new schools now! |
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No.. Its bad enough when you have to let your guts unfurl in any public area!
I couldn't let off one of my great steaming shits in that sort of company..
I mean.. what if I came out and there were still some survivors? I couldn't look them in the eyes ever again |
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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago
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Gender neutral toilets should be a thing, but in addition to what we already have.
Some people may just not be comfortable with being in a genderless toilet, cubicles or not. It's not something that somebody should be forced to do.
To make people comfortable with it, it would need to be phased in/out over a very long period of time. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Not a problem, as long as the cubicle walls & doors were floor to ceiling. And guys didn't piss everywhere, leaving the place smelling rank.. "
D*unk men often do piss all over the place.
But I’ve known several cleaners say that women’s lavatories are usually dirtier than men’s. |
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"No.. Its bad enough when you have to let your guts unfurl in any public area!
I couldn't let off one of my great steaming shits in that sort of company..
I mean.. what if I came out and there were still some survivors? I couldn't look them in the eyes ever again "
... No wonder half the ladies of fab fancy you |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"When I was a kid and lived in France all the public toilets, where I was, were gender neutral and not sure why people think it's wrong for kids? Surely if you grow up with them being normal, why would it affect them? They have them in lots of new schools now! "
But we didn’t grow up with that being normal so maybe that’s why we don’t like the idea. No
I don’t like the idea of my kids going into mixed toilets with urinals I don’t like it at all. Are we all
Just expected to conform to everything now so as not to upset some people? Seems that way |
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"No.. Its bad enough when you have to let your guts unfurl in any public area!
I couldn't let off one of my great steaming shits in that sort of company..
I mean.. what if I came out and there were still some survivors? I couldn't look them in the eyes ever again "
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By *hechapMan
over a year ago
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"Not a problem, as long as the cubicle walls & doors were floor to ceiling. And guys didn't piss everywhere, leaving the place smelling rank.. "
Yes because a womans stale piss smells like lavender. |
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"When I was a kid and lived in France all the public toilets, where I was, were gender neutral and not sure why people think it's wrong for kids? Surely if you grow up with them being normal, why would it affect them? They have them in lots of new schools now!
But we didn’t grow up with that being normal so maybe that’s why we don’t like the idea. No
I don’t like the idea of my kids going into mixed toilets with urinals I don’t like it at all. Are we all
Just expected to conform to everything now so as not to upset some people? Seems that way "
I think all new schools are being built with unisex toilets |
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"When I was a kid and lived in France all the public toilets, where I was, were gender neutral and not sure why people think it's wrong for kids? Surely if you grow up with them being normal, why would it affect them? They have them in lots of new schools now!
But we didn’t grow up with that being normal so maybe that’s why we don’t like the idea. No
I don’t like the idea of my kids going into mixed toilets with urinals I don’t like it at all. Are we all
Just expected to conform to everything now so as not to upset some people? Seems that way I think all new schools are being built with unisex toilets"
I don’t have a problem with that as I said above. The staff probably won’t be using them. It will just be the pupils. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"We talking just adults, all to be in cubicles where no body could be seen x"
Yes in cubicles, but horror of horrors that means just one solid door for privacy not two! |
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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago
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"Not a problem, as long as the cubicle walls & doors were floor to ceiling. And guys didn't piss everywhere, leaving the place smelling rank..
Yes because a womans stale piss smells like lavender."
I can confirm from inspection, while not the majority, there are quite a few women's toilets out there that are some of the worst I have ever seen. |
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"Not a problem, as long as the cubicle walls & doors were floor to ceiling. And guys didn't piss everywhere, leaving the place smelling rank..
Yes because a womans stale piss smells like lavender.
I can confirm from inspection, while not the majority, there are quite a few women's toilets out there that are some of the worst I have ever seen. "
Is it the smell from the yellow bin of doom?!  |
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By *ty31Man
over a year ago
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"I don't like the idea of them. I think both genders need their privacy from time to time. Especially in schools.
They have cubicles, it's completely private."
It isn't. There's still a shared space by the sinks. And I think young girls especially need their own space especially at the onset of pubity. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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For a time I lived in gender neutral accommodation in the military, including shower and toilet blocks. The cubicles were only screens, with a gap to the floor and only @6'6" high. There was a lot of dropped soap..  , and this was in the 80's.. |
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"It might be weird where i work, i think the women might feel awkward. I think it wouldn't be right to force it on them."
Where do you work? What type of place? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"When I say phased in I mean universally, as the only option. I can't imagine (yes it's sexiest and ageist) that an older lady would be comfortable being in the toilets with a gang of young men. "
I wouldn't use them, I think the current system works fine. It could be unsafe. |
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"Not a problem, as long as the cubicle walls & doors were floor to ceiling. And guys didn't piss everywhere, leaving the place smelling rank..
To be fair, I've seen some horrific women's bathrooms."
I was about to say that. Back in the day I used to sue the gents in nightclubs as there were no queues.
No one seemed to mind |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I really wouldn't feel comfortable using a gender-neutral toilet! I think there would definitely be times where I wouldn't feel safe, especially late at night at a bar or club. |
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"It might be weird where i work, i think the women might feel awkward. I think it wouldn't be right to force it on them.
Where do you work? What type of place?"
Industrial, 200 guy's. 1 admin woman. 3 HR girls. |
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"It might be weird where i work, i think the women might feel awkward. I think it wouldn't be right to force it on them.
Where do you work? What type of place?
Industrial, 200 guy's. 1 admin woman. 3 HR girls."
I see your point, it would be strange.
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By *an_LexaCouple
over a year ago
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I thought I’d used one recently.
Saw the two signs on the door went in. Did my bit. Was washing my hands after and could see the urinals in the mirror thinking that’s a bit weird, not sure this works.
Came out to have someone explain the two pics weren’t a man and woman but actually a man and a disabled man. I just didn’t have my glasses on. 
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By (user no longer on site)
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No this shouldn't be mandatory, It might put some of us of women. What goes on in segregated toilets should stay in segregated toilets. Just google the film called teeth (2007) and you can see why I think the way I do. However we can share when at my home. Bit of a contradiction. |
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"Yes, because we all need to relieve ourselves and the song and dance about who can pee where doesn't really matter in the grand scheme. Helps parents with opposite sex children, too.
Cubicles make it a complete non issue."
this |
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"Yes, because we all need to relieve ourselves and the song and dance about who can pee where doesn't really matter in the grand scheme. Helps parents with opposite sex children, too.
Cubicles make it a complete non issue.this "
I think we could all use a stadium pal (portable toilet) |
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"I don't like the idea of them. I think both genders need their privacy from time to time. Especially in schools."
I agree
I wouldnt like to see a child going into a unisex toilet.
This reminds me of toilets I saw in France.. All in one room and women were walking past men as they were using the urinals.
I didn't like it. |
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We all use unisex toilets all the time. I have two unisex toilets in my home. I have used unisex toilets in many coffee shops, educational establishments, small businesses. They are just called a toilet, usually with an individual wash hand basin in the same room, proper walls and proper door.
In fact it is the standard idea of multiple cubicles in one room, with flimsy walls and door with big gaps top and bottom, and in gents toilets a row of urinals with men looking at each other, that is disgusting.
As far as the children issue, which would you rather have? A separate bathroom that your child can use while you wait outside? Or parent sending opposite sex child into toilet block where other people may be (women can be predators as well)?
School toilets? Maybe some of you have recollections of these being safe spaces because of segregated genders? I remember them as places where bigger boys could bully smaller boys because they were "private spaces" where female staff (the majority of the teachers) would not go. That were perfect for physical and sexual abuse, larger child, or gang of children, against smaller child. They should bloody well be illegal! Thankfully most new or modernised schools are installing single occupancy properly private bathrooms, with door into a public area, totally eliminating this type of assault.
You want separate male and female changing rooms? One big open room for all the vaginas, one big open room for all the penises? Ever heard of gay men, lesbian women? Personally, i would prefer a bunch of single occupancy changing cubicles, single occupancy shower rooms(with proper door, not a flimsy curtain), and a shared area with lockers and a bench to sit and put my shoes on. |
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"I thought I’d used one recently.
Saw the two signs on the door went in. Did my bit. Was washing my hands after and could see the urinals in the mirror thinking that’s a bit weird, not sure this works.
Came out to have someone explain the two pics weren’t a man and woman but actually a man and a disabled man. I just didn’t have my glasses on.
Lex"
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"No.. Its bad enough when you have to let your guts unfurl in any public area!
I couldn't let off one of my great steaming shits in that sort of company..
I mean.. what if I came out and there were still some survivors? I couldn't look them in the eyes ever again
... No wonder half the ladies of fab fancy you "
They don't, but they will now |
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"We all use unisex toilets all the time. I have two unisex toilets in my home. I have used unisex toilets in many coffee shops, educational establishments, small businesses. They are just called a toilet, usually with an individual wash hand basin in the same room, proper walls and proper door.
In fact it is the standard idea of multiple cubicles in one room, with flimsy walls and door with big gaps top and bottom, and in gents toilets a row of urinals with men looking at each other, that is disgusting.
As far as the children issue, which would you rather have? A separate bathroom that your child can use while you wait outside? Or parent sending opposite sex child into toilet block where other people may be (women can be predators as well)?
School toilets? Maybe some of you have recollections of these being safe spaces because of segregated genders? I remember them as places where bigger boys could bully smaller boys because they were "private spaces" where female staff (the majority of the teachers) would not go. That were perfect for physical and sexual abuse, larger child, or gang of children, against smaller child. They should bloody well be illegal! Thankfully most new or modernised schools are installing single occupancy properly private bathrooms, with door into a public area, totally eliminating this type of assault.
You want separate male and female changing rooms? One big open room for all the vaginas, one big open room for all the penises? Ever heard of gay men, lesbian women? Personally, i would prefer a bunch of single occupancy changing cubicles, single occupancy shower rooms(with proper door, not a flimsy curtain), and a shared area with lockers and a bench to sit and put my shoes on."
Single cubicles/ rooms, not multiple ones. |
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"Not a problem, as long as the cubicle walls & doors were floor to ceiling. And guys didn't piss everywhere, leaving the place smelling rank..
To be fair, I've seen some horrific women's bathrooms.
This is true.."
Reminded me of the school where the girls would use the bathroom to put their lipstick on, then kiss the mirror, leaving it covered in lipstick.
They got caught and made to watch the cleaner cleaning the bathroom. He took his mop and washed the floor, them used the mop to clean the toilets, finally using it to clean the mirrors. The lipstick problem went away the following day. |
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No they are separate for a reason different equipment let’s keep it that way I would not feel comfortable opening a cubicle door after having a number 2 to be confronted by a lady wanting to use the same cubicle I’d probably blush buts that’s me |
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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago
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No I think they should be separate. I don’t want my teenage daughter mixing with men in that environment at the end of a night out.
What is so very wrong with being separate anyway? I don’t want to share with men. |
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We have a mix of single sex and unisex toilets at university. The unisex toilets all have their own sink inside the cubicle, and no urinals. There's no door to the toilets, just cubicle doors, so it's very open plan. I don't know anyone who's uncomfortable with using them. And particularly for ladies at that time of the month, with more women using things like mooncups, having a sink inside the cubicle is very handy! But anyone who isn't comfortable using them can just as easily use the single sex toilets.
My eldest son went to a school that only had single sex toilets and experienced quite extreme bullying and the bullies' favourite place was the toilets because nobody could see them. He's been home educated for the last 2 years because he couldn't face going back to school after that.
So, done properly, I'm a big fan of unisex toilets. We have unisex changing rooms at the local swimming pool as well and that works brilliantly. |
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"We have a mix of single sex and unisex toilets at university. The unisex toilets all have their own sink inside the cubicle, and no urinals. There's no door to the toilets, just cubicle doors, so it's very open plan. I don't know anyone who's uncomfortable with using them. And particularly for ladies at that time of the month, with more women using things like mooncups, having a sink inside the cubicle is very handy! But anyone who isn't comfortable using them can just as easily use the single sex toilets.
My eldest son went to a school that only had single sex toilets and experienced quite extreme bullying and the bullies' favourite place was the toilets because nobody could see them. He's been home educated for the last 2 years because he couldn't face going back to school after that.
So, done properly, I'm a big fan of unisex toilets. We have unisex changing rooms at the local swimming pool as well and that works brilliantly. "
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By (user no longer on site)
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Actually there are gender neutral toilets on Lyme Regis sea front. I think they're a good idea and don't have a problem with them. They've certainly succeeded n reducing the amount of time women have to queue to use the loo. |
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I use a mooncup and I’m sorry but just the sound it makes during retrieval and exit is something I never want a man to hear.
And then I need to wash my very bloodied hands at the communal sinks. I cringe when I know it’s just women around. No no no, I need privacy and I will certainly avoid any situation where I have to be exposed to men during my most vulnerable moments. |
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"I use a mooncup and I’m sorry but just the sound it makes during retrieval and exit is something I never want a man to hear.
And then I need to wash my very bloodied hands at the communal sinks. I cringe when I know it’s just women around. No no no, I need privacy and I will certainly avoid any situation where I have to be exposed to men during my most vulnerable moments."
Just what the new video feature's for. |
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"I use a mooncup and I’m sorry but just the sound it makes during retrieval and exit is something I never want a man to hear.
And then I need to wash my very bloodied hands at the communal sinks. I cringe when I know it’s just women around. No no no, I need privacy and I will certainly avoid any situation where I have to be exposed to men during my most vulnerable moments."
So you would be absolutely in favour of private single occupancy toilets with proper walls and door, wash handbasin, drying facilites. The issue of whether that toilet is sometimes used by persons of a different gender should be of no concern as long as all persons (of whatever gender) maintain the cleanliness of the facilities. |
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"I use a mooncup and I’m sorry but just the sound it makes during retrieval and exit is something I never want a man to hear.
And then I need to wash my very bloodied hands at the communal sinks. I cringe when I know it’s just women around. No no no, I need privacy and I will certainly avoid any situation where I have to be exposed to men during my most vulnerable moments.
So you would be absolutely in favour of private single occupancy toilets with proper walls and door, wash handbasin, drying facilites. The issue of whether that toilet is sometimes used by persons of a different gender should be of no concern as long as all persons (of whatever gender) maintain the cleanliness of the facilities."
Yes, all in favour of that. So long as it’s clean. |
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"Not a problem, as long as the cubicle walls & doors were floor to ceiling. And guys didn't piss everywhere, leaving the place smelling rank.. "
Exactly.
Mens toilets are disgusting!
It has nothing to do with the mens presence for me it's the fact that a lot of them piss everywhere but the toilet and stink the place out |
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Also I was in a gender neutral toilet a while back in Wembley putting on some lipstick etc .. and a man just stood there watching me do it
I didn't like it - it made me uncomfortable. |
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"So far, i have never been on an airplane with gender segregated toilets. But presumably the rules are different when pissing a mile high in the sky..."
Airplane bogs suck out the entire atmosphere of the cubicle every time that toilet flushes though. Taking with it all oxygen, poo vapour and offending, steaming shit - in the flash of an eye!
And nobody can really hear you dropping your guts over the noise of the engine at that height.
If every public loo was like that, I'd be happier with unisex toilets |
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"Not a problem, as long as the cubicle walls & doors were floor to ceiling. And guys didn't piss everywhere, leaving the place smelling rank..
Exactly.
Mens toilets are disgusting!
It has nothing to do with the mens presence for me it's the fact that a lot of them piss everywhere but the toilet and stink the place out "
I will be completely honest, and admit that in my experience the average gents toilet is more stinky than the average ladies. Mostly i think it's because of the urinals (vile concept, pissing against a wall?). Possibly also less care in cleaning and making it a fresh nice place - there's a services on the M5 where the ladies always has fresh cut flowers next to the wash basins, the men's is just functionally clean.
In pubs/clubs - anywhere that people get d*unk - i have seen nightmare horrific toilets of both genders - d*unk men do not have the exclusive licence on completely missing the toilet bowl... |
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"Not a problem, as long as the cubicle walls & doors were floor to ceiling. And guys didn't piss everywhere, leaving the place smelling rank.. "
Totally! Nothing worse than the stench of stale piss. |
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"Also I was in a gender neutral toilet a while back in Wembley putting on some lipstick etc .. and a man just stood there watching me do it
I didn't like it - it made me uncomfortable."
Which is why proper gender neutral individual bathrooms are what everyone should be asking for. Just changing the "ladies" sign for a "all genders" sign on a ladies loo is NOT acceptable. |
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Hang on! Are we looking at this all wrong? Maybe he meant Gender Nurture bathrooms?
Imagine it? You walk in feeling a bit low, come out feeling manly as fuck? Ready to fuck the world!
Or Gender Natural Bathroom?
Walk in and just curl one out on the floor and wipe your arse with a leaf? |
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"Also I was in a gender neutral toilet a while back in Wembley putting on some lipstick etc .. and a man just stood there watching me do it
I didn't like it - it made me uncomfortable.
Which is why proper gender neutral individual bathrooms are what everyone should be asking for. Just changing the "ladies" sign for a "all genders" sign on a ladies loo is NOT acceptable. "
Very good point. |
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"Hang on! Are we looking at this all wrong? Maybe he meant Gender Nurture bathrooms?
Imagine it? You walk in feeling a bit low, come out feeling manly as fuck? Ready to fuck the world!
Or Gender Natural Bathroom?
Walk in and just curl one out on the floor and wipe your arse with a leaf? "
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I've seen it done a few times at some gigs- usually lasts about an hour before the women refuse to venture in to the swamp that is 'the gents' 
Not that blokes are the only uncouth ones around as i've seen several women stoop for a pee in the main room and even one very wankered woman start curling one off outside the toilets as she was too d*unk to find them |
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After many years in Hospitality, including 4 years as Asst Manager in a Night Club in one hotel + numerous times overseeing Banqueting areas, I can truthfully say that comparing Gents and Ladies Toilets at the end of an Evening's events, the Ladies Loos always won hands down as the worst!!!
Quite apart from not getting toilet tissue successfully into the W C Pan, the sinks always looked like the aftermath of an explosion in a paper factory.
How ruddy difficult is it for ladies to fail to find clearly defined and marked Waste Bins to place all their rubbish??
Cleaners in some hotels dreaded cleaning Ladies Loos. At least Gents Loos were usually better to clean up later.
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The system we have now already works fine, males use males toilet and females use females etc. Transgender people should be comfortable using the toilet of the gender they were biologically born. All toilets have cubicles. |
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I biggest issue is with the implementation of gender neutral toilet facilities. If it’s a floor to ceiling, enclosed cubicle with hand basin, then I’m ok with it. Not enthralled about stepping in piss etc but hey ho. The problem with implementation is that signs on doors are simply being changed, not the facilities within the toilets themselves.
On Facebook today, a review of a music venue in London:
Unfortunately I won’t be returning, due to the fact that there are no female toilets. There is a “gender neutral” toilet space which is comprised of open plan urinals (which you can’t avoid seeing) plus a number of stalls which females can use. It is essentially a male bathroom. If this was “gender neutral” then all the toilets would be enclosed in cubicles - something I am not opposed to. I had to wait in a stall for 10 minutes for a group of men to leave - they were sniffing and being loud / intimidating and I didn’t feel safe enough to walk out into that atmosphere. I can’t support a venue which doesn’t value my safety or privacy. Otherwise a decent space. |
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"I biggest issue is with the implementation of gender neutral toilet facilities. If it’s a floor to ceiling, enclosed cubicle with hand basin, then I’m ok with it. Not enthralled about stepping in piss etc but hey ho. The problem with implementation is that signs on doors are simply being changed, not the facilities within the toilets themselves.
On Facebook today, a review of a music venue in London:
Unfortunately I won’t be returning, due to the fact that there are no female toilets. There is a “gender neutral” toilet space which is comprised of open plan urinals (which you can’t avoid seeing) plus a number of stalls which females can use. It is essentially a male bathroom. If this was “gender neutral” then all the toilets would be enclosed in cubicles - something I am not opposed to. I had to wait in a stall for 10 minutes for a group of men to leave - they were sniffing and being loud / intimidating and I didn’t feel safe enough to walk out into that atmosphere. I can’t support a venue which doesn’t value my safety or privacy. Otherwise a decent space."
Quite right. That wasn't a gender neutral toilet space, that was a club owner spending five quid on a new label for the gents toilet door. And along the way giving a bad name to the whole idea.
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By *hechapMan
over a year ago
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"For a time I lived in gender neutral accommodation in the military, including shower and toilet blocks. The cubicles were only screens, with a gap to the floor and only @6'6" high. There was a lot of dropped soap.. , and this was in the 80's.."
Did you drop the soap for perving at a female or were you wanting a man to fuck you?? |
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"For a time I lived in gender neutral accommodation in the military, including shower and toilet blocks. The cubicles were only screens, with a gap to the floor and only @6'6" high. There was a lot of dropped soap.. , and this was in the 80's.."
Guessing it was the Navy |
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"Do you think gender natural bathrooms should be a thing? Yes or no, and why? "
Not nurture or natural. Try neutral .
And yes cos I hate queuing for the loos when men just walk in. |
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Lots of beach toilets in Cornwall are now but the urinals are in a side bit, no door but tucked away
And tbh doesn't seem to bother anyone young or old! You gotta go you gotta go |
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"Yes please! They make things so much easier for those of us who don’t identify as one or either of the binary!
Why does it make it easier?"
For those who do not present themselves as clearly male or clearly female, choosing between gendered toilets can be difficult.
In the US, under trump's "trans hostile" policies, there have been more than a few instances of non-trans-women being confronted with hostility in the ladies bathroom. One case comes to mind where a male security guard followed a slightly butch looking woman into the ladies toilet, demanded to see proof of her gender, and when she refused he physically assaulted her and dragged her outside.
Then we get trans men who look like lumberjacks, being told they must use the ladies because their birth certificate says female...
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That depends on a couple of things.
I've used mens loos in the past when the line for the womens seemed about a mile long.
Is it actually an unwritten law that men must piss all over the floor and loo seats, take a dump and not flush? Because that seems to be a common theme. And don't get me started on the smell! Womens toilets rarely smell half as bad as the gents.
I have no problem with unisex toilets, if only guys weren't such messy smelly buggers.
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"Yes please! They make things so much easier for those of us who don’t identify as one or either of the binary!
Why does it make it easier?"
Just like Polly said, I don’t identify is either so to use gendered toilets feels like outing myself or making a choice that isn’t true to who I am. If they were gender-neutral then it wouldn’t matter.
Being non-binary/genderqueer doesn’t need to be a big deal and like other people in the thread have mentioned, a lot of countries and our homelives are already set up like this x |
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"That depends on a couple of things.
I've used mens loos in the past when the line for the womens seemed about a mile long.
Is it actually an unwritten law that men must piss all over the floor and loo seats, take a dump and not flush? Because that seems to be a common theme. And don't get me started on the smell! Womens toilets rarely smell half as bad as the gents.
I have no problem with unisex toilets, if only guys weren't such messy smelly buggers.
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Perhaps what we really need is two sets of toilets. One door marked "toilet trained". And the other marked "stinky dirty buggers". |
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My friends 16 almost 17 year old daughter has chosen to be a boy, she has de polled her name to a boys name.
While I respect her choice, and call her by her new name which she didn't think out very well as her initials are now B O, which I am not allowed to point out to her... her mother gave me a look of don't you dare when I spotted it
I do find it very odd and confusing, do I refer to her as her or he, when you talk about her I am confused as to whether to use the term she, her or do I use he, him... body wise she is certainly a girl. I know one of her siblings remarked 'when she has the operation'
I do fear she has taken it a step too far, when I was a kid I wanted to be a boy, I was a tom boy I hated the way my body changed and I couldn't run around topless no more.
I know her father refuses to acknowledge the new name, and even her mother will refer to her as her original name then corrects herself or even sometimes doesn't correct herself
I can see a place for gender neutral toilets changing rooms etc, but please don't attached them to the disabled facilities, they have a hard time as it is finding facilities to relieve themselves
We do live in a very strange world |
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I believe that to men they are just toilets, somewhere to crap and piss. To ladies, the toilets are much more. They can go there to check make up, freshen up, gossip, cry, breastfeed their infants and much more. Women need a safe space in my opinion. Let the ladies toilets be. Anyone else is welcome in my gents because all I want to do is have a quick piss. |
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I think it’s a silly idea personally, your potentially creating the risk of people’s privacy being abused and people’s safety being put at risk. Countries like Canada, one of the first to implement them have already had numerous sexual assaults happen. It’s madness, your putting the safety of children or women at risk of abuse from those sickos who will abuse it. Why tho? All this to please less than1% of the population? I’m all for people being themselves or doing what makes them happy, whether there a man who wishes to identify as a women or a women who wishes to identify as a man, that’s their life, their business but don’t force the rest of us to go along with it |
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"Do you think gender natural bathrooms should be a thing? Yes or no, and why? "
They are vile for women, sadly many blokes particularly if they go in as part of a group just don't know how to behave. Because the rest of Europe does it, doesn't mean that we should.
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"I would not use them and wouldn’t want my daughters too either , an 18 girl doesn’t want to be doing her business with some fella listening!"
Why though? My 18yo daughter wouldn't think anything of it! Most beach toilets down here are mixed gender now plus she's been brought up not to think anything is different ... surely makes no difference who's listening? |
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"Do you think gender natural bathrooms should be a thing? Yes or no, and why? "
Maybe after all men are properly toilet trained 
I mean once they learn how to aim it right |
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"Do you think gender natural bathrooms should be a thing? Yes or no, and why?
Maybe after all men are properly toilet trained
I mean once they learn how to aim it right "
Fuck yes. It's bad enough sharing with the same sex at times. |
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"I would not use them and wouldn’t want my daughters too either , an 18 girl doesn’t want to be doing her business with some fella listening!"
All the men into watersports. Not safe for women or kids. |
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