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Given that we face imminent extinction unless we dramatically change our ways - according to those protesters in London anyway, should there be an immediate global ban on all forms of motorsport?
It’s all been done to death anyway and the idea of racing around a track and getting a trophy after begging people to sponsor you is all old hat now surely?
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"Given that we face imminent extinction unless we dramatically change our ways - according to those protesters in London anyway, should there be an immediate global ban on all forms of motorsport?
It’s all been done to death anyway and the idea of racing around a track and getting a trophy after begging people to sponsor you is all old hat now surely?
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I bet there's technology to race electric cars at the same speeds. No problem there as far as I can see... |
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"Given that we face imminent extinction unless we dramatically change our ways - according to those protesters in London anyway, should there be an immediate global ban on all forms of motorsport?
It’s all been done to death anyway and the idea of racing around a track and getting a trophy after begging people to sponsor you is all old hat now surely?
I bet there's technology to race electric cars at the same speeds. No problem there as far as I can see... "
A life size scalextrix? Ooo what fun |
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"Given that we face imminent extinction unless we dramatically change our ways - according to those protesters in London anyway, should there be an immediate global ban on all forms of motorsport?
It’s all been done to death anyway and the idea of racing around a track and getting a trophy after begging people to sponsor you is all old hat now surely?
I bet there's technology to race electric cars at the same speeds. No problem there as far as I can see...
A life size scalextrix? Ooo what fun "
Do I sense sarcasm? 
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"If you're going to ban motorsports, then why not just bad all forms of transportation that burn fuel?"
Because it’s necessary to travel. How else would I get to a meet or a club?
Also I love the infernal combustion engine so in a way I’m playing the Devils avocado. Although it got me thinking and really, racing has all been done, there’s nothing new exciting / interesting to see- no longer a ‘sport’. |
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"If you're going to ban motorsports, then why not just bad all forms of transportation that burn fuel?
Because it’s necessary to travel. How else would I get to a meet or a club?
Also I love the infernal combustion engine so in a way I’m playing the Devils avocado. Although it got me thinking and really, racing has all been done, there’s nothing new exciting / interesting to see- no longer a ‘sport’."
You could say that about all sports really. Is anything new going to happen in football or tennis for example?
What a lot of people forget about motor sports is the technology used to win races is often trickled down into the road cars we have, motor sports have a done a lot in the way of making cars safer and more efficient |
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"Given that we face imminent extinction unless we dramatically change our ways - according to those protesters in London anyway, should there be an immediate global ban on all forms of motorsport?
It’s all been done to death anyway and the idea of racing around a track and getting a trophy after begging people to sponsor you is all old hat now surely?
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Honestly this is probably the sort of thing we need to do, it's unpopular and people will despise whichever government carries it out but it's all for the *ahem* grea'er good.
Besides, as it's been pointed out there's already a Formula-E which could still entertain the F1 fans, swap out a few more for electrical versions and it wouldn't quite be the end of the world that motorsport fans would have you believe.
Another bonus of swapping to electric racing would be the leaps and bounds that the technology would receive as teams try to squeeze everything they can from their vehicles. |
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"Given that we face imminent extinction unless we dramatically change our ways - according to those protesters in London anyway, should there be an immediate global ban on all forms of motorsport?
It’s all been done to death anyway and the idea of racing around a track and getting a trophy after begging people to sponsor you is all old hat now surely?
Honestly this is probably the sort of thing we need to do, it's unpopular and people will despise whichever government carries it out but it's all for the *ahem* grea'er good.
Besides, as it's been pointed out there's already a Formula-E which could still entertain the F1 fans, swap out a few more for electrical versions and it wouldn't quite be the end of the world that motorsport fans would have you believe.
Another bonus of swapping to electric racing would be the leaps and bounds that the technology would receive as teams try to squeeze everything they can from their vehicles. "
Formula E is far from "clean" racing. Agree it would help future technology though |
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"Formula e, is all electrickery
And it is just terrible to watch
And they sound awful"
God yes, I would rather never watch a race again than watch Formula E |
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"If you're going to ban motorsports, then why not just bad all forms of transportation that burn fuel?
Let's just ban people, there you go, sorted!"
Can't deny the world would be much better off without humans in it |
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"Given that we face imminent extinction unless we dramatically change our ways - according to those protesters in London anyway, should there be an immediate global ban on all forms of motorsport?
It’s all been done to death anyway and the idea of racing around a track and getting a trophy after begging people to sponsor you is all old hat now surely?
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No. |
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"Given that we face imminent extinction unless we dramatically change our ways - according to those protesters in London anyway, should there be an immediate global ban on all forms of motorsport?
It’s all been done to death anyway and the idea of racing around a track and getting a trophy after begging people to sponsor you is all old hat now surely?
Honestly this is probably the sort of thing we need to do, it's unpopular and people will despise whichever government carries it out but it's all for the *ahem* grea'er good.
Besides, as it's been pointed out there's already a Formula-E which could still entertain the F1 fans, swap out a few more for electrical versions and it wouldn't quite be the end of the world that motorsport fans would have you believe.
Another bonus of swapping to electric racing would be the leaps and bounds that the technology would receive as teams try to squeeze everything they can from their vehicles.
Formula E is far from "clean" racing. Agree it would help future technology though"
True but it is cleaner than F1, although not as entertaining to watching without the sound... they can always dub that over in post though |
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"Given that we face imminent extinction unless we dramatically change our ways - according to those protesters in London anyway, should there be an immediate global ban on all forms of motorsport?
It’s all been done to death anyway and the idea of racing around a track and getting a trophy after begging people to sponsor you is all old hat now surely?
Honestly this is probably the sort of thing we need to do, it's unpopular and people will despise whichever government carries it out but it's all for the *ahem* grea'er good.
Besides, as it's been pointed out there's already a Formula-E which could still entertain the F1 fans, swap out a few more for electrical versions and it wouldn't quite be the end of the world that motorsport fans would have you believe.
Another bonus of swapping to electric racing would be the leaps and bounds that the technology would receive as teams try to squeeze everything they can from their vehicles.
Formula E is far from "clean" racing. Agree it would help future technology though
True but it is cleaner than F1, although not as entertaining to watching without the sound... they can always dub that over in post though "
Hydro is the future... well once the oil companies have done a deal /taken over the water companies that is |
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By *arksxMan
over a year ago
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"If you're going to ban motorsports, then why not just bad all forms of transportation that burn fuel?
Let's just ban people, there you go, sorted!
Can't deny the world would be much better off without humans in it"
When peo2e say climate change will destroy the earth
What they mean is... It will destroy the human race.
The earth has been around for billions of years, it will be around long after the human race is extinct.
It will shake us off like a bad one night stand |
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"If you're going to ban motorsports, then why not just bad all forms of transportation that burn fuel?
Let's just ban people, there you go, sorted!
Can't deny the world would be much better off without humans in it
When peo2e say climate change will destroy the earth
What they mean is... It will destroy the human race.
The earth has been around for billions of years, it will be around long after the human race is extinct.
It will shake us off like a bad one night stand"
In planetary timescales that's about right for the length of time we've been here... |
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"Given that we face imminent extinction unless we dramatically change our ways - according to those protesters in London anyway, should there be an immediate global ban on all forms of motorsport?
It’s all been done to death anyway and the idea of racing around a track and getting a trophy after begging people to sponsor you is all old hat now surely?
I bet there's technology to race electric cars at the same speeds. No problem there as far as I can see...
A life size scalextrix? Ooo what fun "
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
There and to the left a bit |
"Given that we face imminent extinction unless we dramatically change our ways - according to those protesters in London anyway, should there be an immediate global ban on all forms of motorsport?
It’s all been done to death anyway and the idea of racing around a track and getting a trophy after begging people to sponsor you is all old hat now surely?
I bet there's technology to race electric cars at the same speeds. No problem there as far as I can see...
A life size scalextrix? Ooo what fun "
Yeah but imagine the size of the people needed to stand near any corners to lift the cars back on the track when they fly off because the controller's trigger finger was a little too heavy |
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Don't blame it on the cars and engine, it's the human race that's fucked this planet over, we don't deserve to live on such a lovely planet if this is how we treat it, now they talk about exploring and maybe living on other planets, see we are not content with just fucking up earth we feel the need to move on and fuck up others, space around earth is now becoming a scrap yard with usless satellites, best thing for this planet is for everyone to get together and I mean every last living soul and all kill ourselves to save this planet |
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
There and to the left a bit |
Oh and to the OPs point - I'm no fan of motorsport but I don't think it should be banned any more than any other activity that causes carbon footprint issues - whilst I agree as the most intelligent lifeform on this planet we should take action to stop it's demise, where do you stop if you start banning things completely? |
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i work in motorsport, and trust me we are trying to be as green as possible, but its no where nr as bad as everyone on the roads every day going to work, and most race cars are way more efficiant than your family hatchback, why pit more than you have to, fuel use is key |
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"Given that we face imminent extinction unless we dramatically change our ways - according to those protesters in London anyway, should there be an immediate global ban on all forms of motorsport?
It’s all been done to death anyway and the idea of racing around a track and getting a trophy after begging people to sponsor you is all old hat now surely?
I bet there's technology to race electric cars at the same speeds. No problem there as far as I can see... "
There is. Have you not heard of Formula E?
The husband of an old school friend is team principle for Audi |
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"Rather they ban meat eating pets..
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That and the OP's original point are very valid examples of waste (one could argue unnecessary waste).
There are probably a few others, and some counter measures, that just won't fly (until we are on our last legs and the cities are drowning).
For one it would be sensible to recycle bodies and if not eat them, use them for fertiliser. |
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Why pick on motorsports football teams drive and fly around and how many fans drive to games. These ER freaks won’t be happy till we are all living in mud huts again with no lights or electricity. |
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"Why pick on motorsports football teams drive and fly around and how many fans drive to games. These ER freaks won’t be happy till we are all living in mud huts again with no lights or electricity."
But football can be really exciting. I could be persuaded to make an exception for rallying as I used to really enjoy that, both in terms of driving and spectating. But just going round and round a circuit - boring! |
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I think instead of trying to control what other people do, make sure that your own life is a fantastic example to the rest of the world ... be the best you can be before trying to change others |
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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago
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"Wiping out half of the human population would be better.
The male half. Except for me of course! "
Nope, the ones that think banning a sport will make a huge difference should be the first to go! |
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"Wiping out half of the human population would be better.
The male half. Except for me of course!
Nope, the ones that think banning a sport will make a huge difference should be the first to go!"
what sort of an idiot would come up with an idea like that? |
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"Why pick on motorsports football teams drive and fly around and how many fans drive to games. These ER freaks won’t be happy till we are all living in mud huts again with no lights or electricity.
But football can be really exciting. I could be persuaded to make an exception for rallying as I used to really enjoy that, both in terms of driving and spectating. But just going round and round a circuit - boring!"
Football is exciting REALLY ????22 over paid twats chasing a ball around for 90 mins. Would rather repaint my fence and watch it dry for 90 mins |
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"Given that we face imminent extinction unless we dramatically change our ways - according to those protesters in London anyway, should there be an immediate global ban on all forms of motorsport?
It’s all been done to death anyway and the idea of racing around a track and getting a trophy after begging people to sponsor you is all old hat now surely?
Honestly this is probably the sort of thing we need to do, it's unpopular and people will despise whichever government carries it out but it's all for the *ahem* grea'er good.
Besides, as it's been pointed out there's already a Formula-E which could still entertain the F1 fans, swap out a few more for electrical versions and it wouldn't quite be the end of the world that motorsport fans would have you believe.
Another bonus of swapping to electric racing would be the leaps and bounds that the technology would receive as teams try to squeeze everything they can from their vehicles. "
You think that’s unpopular, wait until the absolutely necessary population control measures are brought in ...... |
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"Given that we face imminent extinction unless we dramatically change our ways - according to those protesters in London anyway, should there be an immediate global ban on all forms of motorsport?
It’s all been done to death anyway and the idea of racing around a track and getting a trophy after begging people to sponsor you is all old hat now surely?
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Hi look like you may have us a aeroplane to find the beach you're on banner aeroplanes not Motorsport.. |
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"Why pick on motorsports football teams drive and fly around and how many fans drive to games. These ER freaks won’t be happy till we are all living in mud huts again with no lights or electricity.
But football can be really exciting. I could be persuaded to make an exception for rallying as I used to really enjoy that, both in terms of driving and spectating. But just going round and round a circuit - boring!
Football is exciting REALLY ????22 over paid twats chasing a ball around for 90 mins. Would rather repaint my fence and watch it dry for 90 mins "
this, and over paid most of them, dont forget most racers pay for thier drives |
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By *arksxMan
over a year ago
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"Wiping out half of the human population would be better.
The male half. Except for me of course!
Nope, the ones that think banning a sport will make a huge difference should be the first to go! what sort of an idiot would come up with an idea like that? "
Lets ban motorsport... Except the one (you) used to compete in
(your) argument for a track motorsport ban is (you) find it boring.... WOW
It's a thin argument covered in fallacies to say motorsport should be banned ed because it emits carbon whilst the sport is undertaken.
As others have made the point... Lets focus on sports with the highest ecological impact.
Id (guess) thats golf. Flying across the globe to play on massive green spaces to knock tiny balls into holes. And the water to maintain the grounds |
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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago
Dudley |
"Wiping out half of the human population would be better.
The male half. Except for me of course!
Nope, the ones that think banning a sport will make a huge difference should be the first to go! what sort of an idiot would come up with an idea like that? "
I know right! |
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"Wiping out half of the human population would be better.
The male half. Except for me of course!
Nope, the ones that think banning a sport will make a huge difference should be the first to go! what sort of an idiot would come up with an idea like that?
Lets ban motorsport... Except the one (you) used to compete in
(your) argument for a track motorsport ban is (you) find it boring.... WOW
It's a thin argument covered in fallacies to say motorsport should be banned ed because it emits carbon whilst the sport is undertaken.
As others have made the point... Lets focus on sports with the highest ecological impact.
Id (guess) thats golf. Flying across the globe to play on massive green spaces to knock tiny balls into holes. And the water to maintain the grounds"
But golf is fantastic. Some would say it’s the ultimate sport. I used to enjoy all motorsport but it’s had its day, all been done. Time to move on. |
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By *arksxMan
over a year ago
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"Wiping out half of the human population would be better.
The male half. Except for me of course!
Nope, the ones that think banning a sport will make a huge difference should be the first to go! what sort of an idiot would come up with an idea like that?
Lets ban motorsport... Except the one (you) used to compete in
(your) argument for a track motorsport ban is (you) find it boring.... WOW
It's a thin argument covered in fallacies to say motorsport should be banned ed because it emits carbon whilst the sport is undertaken.
As others have made the point... Lets focus on sports with the highest ecological impact.
Id (guess) thats golf. Flying across the globe to play on massive green spaces to knock tiny balls into holes. And the water to maintain the grounds
But golf is fantastic. Some would say it’s the ultimate sport. I used to enjoy all motorsport but it’s had its day, all been done. Time to move on. "
Yeah I think we have all moved on from your thread. |
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"Why? ... because you don't like it anymore?
Pretty much yeah. It was just a thought. "
Bit sad really though don't you think? I don't like lots of things but wouldn't consider banning them as other people enjoy them!! |
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Think it's more useful to adapt sports such as Formula E to bring technology forward so we all benefit.
It's not ideal to have any international sport, with all the travelling but if we start banning things like that then where do you stop.
Stopping fans attending football matches as 40,000 people travelling to a city centre burns lots of carbon/air pollution, even if a good percentage use public transport.
It's a slippery slope, not to mention how unpopular it would be
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"If you're going to ban motorsports, then why not just bad all forms of transportation that burn fuel?
Let's just ban people, there you go, sorted!
Can't deny the world would be much better off without humans in it
When peo2e say climate change will destroy the earth
What they mean is... It will destroy the human race.
The earth has been around for billions of years, it will be around long after the human race is extinct.
It will shake us off like a bad one night stand"
Yes. Prof Brian Cox said something similar as this has already happened apparently with other planets in the solar system. |
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By *lan157Man
over a year ago
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The carbon cost of motor sport events is small compared to the travelling of those attending. So you might as well ban travel to music concerts or indeed any event more than walking distance from your home . Every music or sporting event can be streamed to your armchair and you need never venture from it safe in the knowledge you have done your bit. |
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"Why? ... because you don't like it anymore?
Pretty much yeah. It was just a thought.
Bit sad really though don't you think? I don't like lots of things but wouldn't consider banning them as other people enjoy them!! "
I dunno, I'd happily ban one of my exes, lime pickle, Piers Morgan, the word chav, the phrase "need to unload", Snapchat filters for anyone over 25, card only shops, tons of politicians and many other things even though they all seem very popular. Perhaps it's best I'm not in charge. |
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"Given that we face imminent extinction unless we dramatically change our ways - according to those protesters in London anyway, should there be an immediate global ban on all forms of motorsport?
It’s all been done to death anyway and the idea of racing around a track and getting a trophy after begging people to sponsor you is all old hat now surely?
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Wouldn't agree if your a person that enjoys motorsports. Many forms of it. World Rally Championship I love to follow, mostly from the comforts of an armchair in the living room. This whole extinction rebellion crap is just that, a load of crap. Take one look at the type of people protesting and that should tell you all you need to know |
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"Given that we face imminent extinction unless we dramatically change our ways - according to those protesters in London anyway, should there be an immediate global ban on all forms of motorsport?
It’s all been done to death anyway and the idea of racing around a track and getting a trophy after begging people to sponsor you is all old hat now surely?
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Omg really.. motorsport is what i spend most of my personal time indulging in some way.. it is amazing |
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"Given that we face imminent extinction unless we dramatically change our ways - according to those protesters in London anyway, should there be an immediate global ban on all forms of motorsport?
It’s all been done to death anyway and the idea of racing around a track and getting a trophy after begging people to sponsor you is all old hat now surely?
Omg really.. motorsport is what i spend most of my personal time indulging in some way.. it is amazing "
Yet he is happy for golf can stay because that is fun  
Most strange. |
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"Given that we face imminent extinction unless we dramatically change our ways - according to those protesters in London anyway, should there be an immediate global ban on all forms of motorsport?
It’s all been done to death anyway and the idea of racing around a track and getting a trophy after begging people to sponsor you is all old hat now surely?
Omg really.. motorsport is what i spend most of my personal time indulging in some way.. it is amazing
Yet he is happy for golf can stay because that is fun
Most strange. "
golf and fun.. he must mean a golf GTi  |
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"Given that we face imminent extinction unless we dramatically change our ways - according to those protesters in London anyway, should there be an immediate global ban on all forms of motorsport?
It’s all been done to death anyway and the idea of racing around a track and getting a trophy after begging people to sponsor you is all old hat now surely?
Omg really.. motorsport is what i spend most of my personal time indulging in some way.. it is amazing
Yet he is happy for golf can stay because that is fun
Most strange. golf and fun.. he must mean a golf GTi "
That's the only fun kind of golf I can think of |
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Having looked into the effect of motorsport based emissions around 10 years ago...
A Boeing 737 taxiing to the runway for takeoff uses more fuel, than an entire weekend of motorsport at once circuit. And as a result, creates more emissions. Have a look and see how many aircraft at any one time are flying high above us. And while were at it, check the emissions from Shipping Freight.
Yeah, motorsport stays  |
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"Given that we face imminent extinction unless we dramatically change our ways - according to those protesters in London anyway, should there be an immediate global ban on all forms of motorsport?
It’s all been done to death anyway and the idea of racing around a track and getting a trophy after begging people to sponsor you is all old hat now surely?
Omg really.. motorsport is what i spend most of my personal time indulging in some way.. it is amazing
Yet he is happy for golf can stay because that is fun
Most strange. golf and fun.. he must mean a golf GTi
That's the only fun kind of golf I can think of "
You are all starting to miss the point. By the way, a Golf GTI is fun. The game of golf and football are exciting, thrilling sports that evoke great emotion and have evolved. Cars going round and round, then the podium, the bottle of bubbly (wasted) been done to death, the winner gets a trophy and some points for a bigger trophy at the end of the year. The drivers ponce around in their racing overalls thinking they are great warriors / sportsmen. Time to move on, it won’t be missed. |
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"Given that we face imminent extinction unless we dramatically change our ways - according to those protesters in London anyway, should there be an immediate global ban on all forms of motorsport?
It’s all been done to death anyway and the idea of racing around a track and getting a trophy after begging people to sponsor you is all old hat now surely?
Omg really.. motorsport is what i spend most of my personal time indulging in some way.. it is amazing
Yet he is happy for golf can stay because that is fun
Most strange. golf and fun.. he must mean a golf GTi
That's the only fun kind of golf I can think of
You are all starting to miss the point. By the way, a Golf GTI is fun. The game of golf and football are exciting, thrilling sports that evoke great emotion and have evolved. Cars going round and round, then the podium, the bottle of bubbly (wasted) been done to death, the winner gets a trophy and some points for a bigger trophy at the end of the year. The drivers ponce around in their racing overalls thinking they are great warriors / sportsmen. Time to move on, it won’t be missed. "
You can reduce any activity to it's most basic form as you have for motor racing.
For example, 22 grown men chasing a ball around a field. But that is quite childish and doesn't add anything to and this debate, please don't clog up the thread if you have nothing to contribute |
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"Having looked into the effect of motorsport based emissions around 10 years ago...
A Boeing 737 taxiing to the runway for takeoff uses more fuel, than an entire weekend of motorsport at once circuit. And as a result, creates more emissions. Have a look and see how many aircraft at any one time are flying high above us. And while were at it, check the emissions from Shipping Freight.
Yeah, motorsport stays "
It's not really the cars themselves that are the point, it's the transportation of the teams the cars and the infrastructure all round the world. So your little boring 737 fact if true, is kind of the actual point you're missing, and the reason people are arguing for it to be be banned, not the 20 car 1.5-2 hour race on a Sunday afternoon.
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"Given that we face imminent extinction unless we dramatically change our ways - according to those protesters in London anyway, should there be an immediate global ban on all forms of motorsport?
It’s all been done to death anyway and the idea of racing around a track and getting a trophy after begging people to sponsor you is all old hat now surely?
Wouldn't agree if your a person that enjoys motorsports. Many forms of it. World Rally Championship I love to follow, mostly from the comforts of an armchair in the living room. This whole extinction rebellion crap is just that, a load of crap. Take one look at the type of people protesting and that should tell you all you need to know "
What exactly do you mean "load of crap", in what way?
Are you arguing that human impacted climate change isn't real?
Are you saying we don't need to do more to protect our planet?
I may have missed something in your post but could you expand
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"Given that we face imminent extinction unless we dramatically change our ways - according to those protesters in London anyway, should there be an immediate global ban on all forms of motorsport?
It’s all been done to death anyway and the idea of racing around a track and getting a trophy after begging people to sponsor you is all old hat now surely?
Omg really.. motorsport is what i spend most of my personal time indulging in some way.. it is amazing
Yet he is happy for golf can stay because that is fun
Most strange. golf and fun.. he must mean a golf GTi
That's the only fun kind of golf I can think of
You are all starting to miss the point. By the way, a Golf GTI is fun. The game of golf and football are exciting, thrilling sports that evoke great emotion and have evolved. Cars going round and round, then the podium, the bottle of bubbly (wasted) been done to death, the winner gets a trophy and some points for a bigger trophy at the end of the year. The drivers ponce around in their racing overalls thinking they are great warriors / sportsmen. Time to move on, it won’t be missed. "
It's a shame you are fixating on one exceedingly small part of motorsport, most participants have no interest in just that and what you have described is absolutely nothing at all like what I and several thousand people get up to, in various forms each weekend!!!
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"Given that we face imminent extinction unless we dramatically change our ways - according to those protesters in London anyway, should there be an immediate global ban on all forms of motorsport?
It’s all been done to death anyway and the idea of racing around a track and getting a trophy after begging people to sponsor you is all old hat now surely?
Wouldn't agree if your a person that enjoys motorsports. Many forms of it. World Rally Championship I love to follow, mostly from the comforts of an armchair in the living room. This whole extinction rebellion crap is just that, a load of crap. Take one look at the type of people protesting and that should tell you all you need to know
What exactly do you mean "load of crap", in what way?
Are you arguing that human impacted climate change isn't real?
Are you saying we don't need to do more to protect our planet?
I may have missed something in your post but could you expand
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Of course we should all do more to protect our environment. I’m not convinced that humans are creating climate change. We are making a filthy mess though - discarded plastic being one.
The science has changed as has the ways of measuring. They didn’t have satellites or digital data just a few decades back. If you question the validity of the argument then you get accused of being a moron. |
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"Given that we face imminent extinction unless we dramatically change our ways - according to those protesters in London anyway, should there be an immediate global ban on all forms of motorsport?
It’s all been done to death anyway and the idea of racing around a track and getting a trophy after begging people to sponsor you is all old hat now surely?
Wouldn't agree if your a person that enjoys motorsports. Many forms of it. World Rally Championship I love to follow, mostly from the comforts of an armchair in the living room. This whole extinction rebellion crap is just that, a load of crap. Take one look at the type of people protesting and that should tell you all you need to know
What exactly do you mean "load of crap", in what way?
Are you arguing that human impacted climate change isn't real?
Are you saying we don't need to do more to protect our planet?
I may have missed something in your post but could you expand
Of course we should all do more to protect our environment. I’m not convinced that humans are creating climate change. We are making a filthy mess though - discarded plastic being one.
The science has changed as has the ways of measuring. They didn’t have satellites or digital data just a few decades back. If you question the validity of the argument then you get accused of being a moron. "
So you have honestly looked at the scientific research and you honestly don't think humans are impacting climate change?
Normally people who share you're view, haven't spent any time looking into it. You puzzle me as you seem to have looked into it but came to the same conclusion.
Have you seen the data which coincides with the industrial revolution?
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As I said earlier ...
"I think instead of trying to control what other people do, make sure that your own life is a fantastic example to the rest of the world ... be the best you can be before trying to change others "
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"Given that we face imminent extinction unless we dramatically change our ways - according to those protesters in London anyway, should there be an immediate global ban on all forms of motorsport?
It’s all been done to death anyway and the idea of racing around a track and getting a trophy after begging people to sponsor you is all old hat now surely?
I bet there's technology to race electric cars at the same speeds. No problem there as far as I can see... "
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"Formula e, is all electrickery"
The downside of that though is that the cars, crews and drivers are transported around the world using jets and trucks and the electricity comes mostly from power stations burning coal and oil. |
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"Formula e, is all electrickery
The downside of that though is that the cars, crews and drivers are transported around the world using jets and trucks and the electricity comes mostly from power stations burning coal and oil.
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It's a narrow mostly.
I'm sure I saw that we are nearing 50% provided by renewables in the UK. |
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"Given that we face imminent extinction unless we dramatically change our ways - according to those protesters in London anyway, should there be an immediate global ban on all forms of motorsport?
It’s all been done to death anyway and the idea of racing around a track and getting a trophy after begging people to sponsor you is all old hat now surely?
Wouldn't agree if your a person that enjoys motorsports. Many forms of it. World Rally Championship I love to follow, mostly from the comforts of an armchair in the living room. This whole extinction rebellion crap is just that, a load of crap. Take one look at the type of people protesting and that should tell you all you need to know
What exactly do you mean "load of crap", in what way?
Are you arguing that human impacted climate change isn't real?
Are you saying we don't need to do more to protect our planet?
I may have missed something in your post but could you expand
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Its a load of crap as in these protests are futile. Il give the example of my own country here Ireland. We've all just been hit with a 6% carbon tax by our government. Our population is somewhere about 0.001 percent of World population. India and the USA make up about 32% of the world population give or take. Those people don't pay anything in carbon tax. Therefore my Government charging me 6% annually is just a load of bollocks. We are being scare mongered into more taxes. Climate change may very well be real but until all countries of the world come together and find a better way forward then fuck all is going to change. Protesting on top of a train or gluing yourself to the ground won't change a damn thing. |
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I seem to remember some survey done back in about 1973, the fuel crisis time, on the fuel used by all types of sports. I think the answer, in the UK at least, but probably true in many other countries, was that motor sport didn't use up much fuel compared to the other sports they surveyed, and the survey took into account the fuel used by the spectators and the competitors.
The highest fuel useage sport was apparently horse racing. Mainly probably because horse racing is happening several times a week, not just at weekends and because it has many more spectators |
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"Given that we face imminent extinction unless we dramatically change our ways - according to those protesters in London anyway, should there be an immediate global ban on all forms of motorsport?
It’s all been done to death anyway and the idea of racing around a track and getting a trophy after begging people to sponsor you is all old hat now surely?
Omg really.. motorsport is what i spend most of my personal time indulging in some way.. it is amazing
Yet he is happy for golf can stay because that is fun
Most strange. golf and fun.. he must mean a golf GTi
That's the only fun kind of golf I can think of
You are all starting to miss the point. By the way, a Golf GTI is fun. The game of golf and football are exciting, thrilling sports that evoke great emotion and have evolved. Cars going round and round, then the podium, the bottle of bubbly (wasted) been done to death, the winner gets a trophy and some points for a bigger trophy at the end of the year. The drivers ponce around in their racing overalls thinking they are great warriors / sportsmen. Time to move on, it won’t be missed. "
I find motorsport way more thrilling and they sportsmen and women . Motorcycle racers at the top for instance will be fitter than any footballer. Just because you dont enjoy it. Doesn't mean the hundreds of thousands of motorsport fans don't. |
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"Formula E, life size scalectric , sounds the same and gets rather boring after 10 mins x "
a few of us marshals got the little controllers when we were watching formula e and made our own commentary |
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"Given that we face imminent extinction unless we dramatically change our ways - according to those protesters in London anyway, should there be an immediate global ban on all forms of motorsport?
It’s all been done to death anyway and the idea of racing around a track and getting a trophy after begging people to sponsor you is all old hat now surely?
I bet there's technology to race electric cars at the same speeds. No problem there as far as I can see... "
One of my clients is a senior engineer on an F1 team, We were recently chatting about how the current drive (pardon the pun) is for F1 to go electric. He seemed to think the technology isn't that far away from a race perspective. Of course, the electricity still has to be generated somehow.. |
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"Given that we face imminent extinction unless we dramatically change our ways - according to those protesters in London anyway, should there be an immediate global ban on all forms of motorsport?
It’s all been done to death anyway and the idea of racing around a track and getting a trophy after begging people to sponsor you is all old hat now surely?
I bet there's technology to race electric cars at the same speeds. No problem there as far as I can see...
One of my clients is a senior engineer on an F1 team, We were recently chatting about how the current drive (pardon the pun) is for F1 to go electric. He seemed to think the technology isn't that far away from a race perspective. Of course, the electricity still has to be generated somehow.."
My issue is half of my enjoyment of racing is the sound.. the smell.. it would be boring without proper cars |
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"Given that we face imminent extinction unless we dramatically change our ways - according to those protesters in London anyway, should there be an immediate global ban on all forms of motorsport?
It’s all been done to death anyway and the idea of racing around a track and getting a trophy after begging people to sponsor you is all old hat now surely?
I bet there's technology to race electric cars at the same speeds. No problem there as far as I can see...
One of my clients is a senior engineer on an F1 team, We were recently chatting about how the current drive (pardon the pun) is for F1 to go electric. He seemed to think the technology isn't that far away from a race perspective. Of course, the electricity still has to be generated somehow..
My issue is half of my enjoyment of racing is the sound.. the smell.. it would be boring without proper cars"
I understand that. I'm the same over old piston engine aeroplanes. As has been said though, F1 is very much a development platform for future road cars, unless of course driverless cars take over.. |
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Motorsport globally makes up a minute fraction of the world's C02 production.
NASCAR annually is .0000003% or 1 3 millionth of a percent of the total global production.
Total global motorsport series, around 1200.
Total annual production .0004%, very roughly.
Not saying it shouldn't be looked at but other areas should be looked at more intently.
China, India, Russia and USA make up over 50% of the world total, with China at 27%.
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But they still need to charge the cars and most electricity is still produced from coal power stations!
We need some major funding worldwide to find a cleaner source of energy
I am a F1 fan and if banning motorsports was part of a global plan to radically stop CO2 emissions and climate change I would support the ban
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By *cplsMan
over a year ago
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As someone who has raced all of my life, I wondered how long it would be before the tree huggers and hippies started.
Personally I would like to see some control on the amount of children born, that would reduce the growth of the population rapidly. Secondly massively reduce and control pets. The country spends millions on pet foods and products and 10s of millions on vets bills; yet we have children in poverty. |
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"Given that we face imminent extinction unless we dramatically change our ways - according to those protesters in London anyway, should there be an immediate global ban on all forms of motorsport?
It’s all been done to death anyway and the idea of racing around a track and getting a trophy after begging people to sponsor you is all old hat now surely?
Omg really.. motorsport is what i spend most of my personal time indulging in some way.. it is amazing
Yet he is happy for golf can stay because that is fun
Most strange. golf and fun.. he must mean a golf GTi
That's the only fun kind of golf I can think of
You are all starting to miss the point. By the way, a Golf GTI is fun. The game of golf and football are exciting, thrilling sports that evoke great emotion and have evolved. Cars going round and round, then the podium, the bottle of bubbly (wasted) been done to death, the winner gets a trophy and some points for a bigger trophy at the end of the year. The drivers ponce around in their racing overalls thinking they are great warriors / sportsmen. Time to move on, it won’t be missed. "
Football and golf are both utter fucking tedium to watch in my opinion- motorsport is generally exciting.
Neither football or golf have changed much in the last 100 years.
I can't recall ever hearing about rival motorsport fans getting arseholed, fighting, shouting racial abuse and generally causing mayhem.
your argument is pretty weak so lets ban the sport of dullards instead and free up the sports pages for something more interesting (and that the UK can win more than once a centuary  ) |
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"Why don't we all just sit in a field and not move or do anythint ever again.
Singing kumbaya?"
Hell no, what a waste of oxygen. Think if the poor children 500 years from now |
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over a year ago
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"Why don't we all just sit in a field and not move or do anythint ever again.
Singing kumbaya?
Hell no, what a waste of oxygen. Think if the poor children 500 years from now"
Ah, true, I'll just hold my breath then |
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"Given that we face imminent extinction unless we dramatically change our ways - according to those protesters in London anyway, should there be an immediate global ban on all forms of motorsport?
It’s all been done to death anyway and the idea of racing around a track and getting a trophy after begging people to sponsor you is all old hat now surely?
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i think we should ban things based on popularity the more popular it is then the eco system benefits it the most but having said that humans can't change evolution  |
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"Given that we face imminent extinction unless we dramatically change our ways - according to those protesters in London anyway, should there be an immediate global ban on all forms of motorsport?
It’s all been done to death anyway and the idea of racing around a track and getting a trophy after begging people to sponsor you is all old hat now surely?
I bet there's technology to race electric cars at the same speeds. No problem there as far as I can see... "
Yes, it already exists, it is called Formula E. Not seen it myself, but told that it can actually be quite thrilling because using Tesla type technology with a formula one type car body can produce a vehicle that does unbelievable things in almost complete silence... |
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What we should ban is premiere league and international football, and save the carbon footprint of hundreds of thousands of fans travelling hundreds and thousands of miles every week. I bet the average Man United away match wastes going on for a million man-miles of travel? |
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"Having looked into the effect of motorsport based emissions around 10 years ago...
A Boeing 737 taxiing to the runway for takeoff uses more fuel, than an entire weekend of motorsport at once circuit. And as a result, creates more emissions. Have a look and see how many aircraft at any one time are flying high above us. And while were at it, check the emissions from Shipping Freight.
Yeah, motorsport stays
It's not really the cars themselves that are the point, it's the transportation of the teams the cars and the infrastructure all round the world. So your little boring 737 fact if true, is kind of the actual point you're missing, and the reason people are arguing for it to be be banned, not the 20 car 1.5-2 hour race on a Sunday afternoon.
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There are MANY different forms of Motorsport around the world. Ban F1 if you want to. It's boring. But don't forget that many of the safety features that you and I enjoy in a day to day drive to the shops were discovered, developed and created thanks to the likes of F1.
And also, the majority of club motorsport events take place fairly locally and don't create a fraction of the emissions either competitive or transportation wise as large circus based World championships. So yes, you can take your boring little reply and shove it to |
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Working for one of the words largest engine manufacturer’s, we have a global mission to evolve our products and strictly regulate emission levels according to specific “COUNTRY” requirements.
Motorsports in general make up only 0.2% of real time emissions released into the atmosphere annually.
Compare that to Nigeria West Africa where the emission level is 6.3% DAILY! (This includes burnable waste also).
Believe it or not the UK and Europe have got strict guidelines in place to reduce emission levels which if you work in the road haulage industry you will know what I mean.
I fully understand the concern we face with regards to global warming however as a country that only represents a tiny percentage of the global emissions released and seeing what is going on further afield, banning motorsports is the least of our worries.
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"What happened to the ice age, it melted due to global warming, not many cars then"
It's actually a natural cycle but what's happening this time is the speed which is human driven that the world cannot cope with. |
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It’s all been done to death anyway and the idea of racing around a track and getting a trophy after begging people to sponsor you is all old hat now surely?
I bet there's technology to race electric cars at the same speeds. No problem there as far as I can see...
A life size scalextrix? Ooo what fun
Do I sense sarcasm?
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Certainly not - but how big are the controllers? |
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"Given that we face imminent extinction unless we dramatically change our ways - according to those protesters in London anyway, should there be an immediate global ban on all forms of motorsport?
It’s all been done to death anyway and the idea of racing around a track and getting a trophy after begging people to sponsor you is all old hat now surely?
I bet there's technology to race electric cars at the same speeds. No problem there as far as I can see...
One of my clients is a senior engineer on an F1 team, We were recently chatting about how the current drive (pardon the pun) is for F1 to go electric. He seemed to think the technology isn't that far away from a race perspective. Of course, the electricity still has to be generated somehow..
My issue is half of my enjoyment of racing is the sound.. the smell.. it would be boring without proper cars
I understand that. I'm the same over old piston engine aeroplanes. As has been said though, F1 is very much a development platform for future road cars, unless of course driverless cars take over.."
Formula one arguably had a rudimentary driverless car as early as 1993. The Williams F1 car reputedly had such a sophisticated active suspension that it was capable of driving a lap of Silverstone without a driver. |
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"Given that we face imminent extinction unless we dramatically change our ways - according to those protesters in London anyway, should there be an immediate global ban on all forms of motorsport?
It’s all been done to death anyway and the idea of racing around a track and getting a trophy after begging people to sponsor you is all old hat now surely?
I bet there's technology to race electric cars at the same speeds. No problem there as far as I can see...
Yes, it already exists, it is called Formula E. Not seen it myself, but told that it can actually be quite thrilling because using Tesla type technology with a formula one type car body can produce a vehicle that does unbelievable things in almost complete silence..."
its about as thrilling as watching paint dry |
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"Given that we face imminent extinction unless we dramatically change our ways - according to those protesters in London anyway, should there be an immediate global ban on all forms of motorsport?
It’s all been done to death anyway and the idea of racing around a track and getting a trophy after begging people to sponsor you is all old hat now surely?
Omg really.. motorsport is what i spend most of my personal time indulging in some way.. it is amazing
Yet he is happy for golf can stay because that is fun
Most strange. golf and fun.. he must mean a golf GTi
That's the only fun kind of golf I can think of
You are all starting to miss the point. By the way, a Golf GTI is fun. The game of golf and football are exciting, thrilling sports that evoke great emotion and have evolved. Cars going round and round, then the podium, the bottle of bubbly (wasted) been done to death, the winner gets a trophy and some points for a bigger trophy at the end of the year. The drivers ponce around in their racing overalls thinking they are great warriors / sportsmen. Time to move on, it won’t be missed. "
I'm trying to work out how golf and football as moved on, yeah football as moved on from using a pigs bladder to a leather ball and wages as gone way to high, as for golf omg wot a fucking boring game to watch |
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Given that we face imminent extinction then it matters not a not.. I will just fire up my V8.. put Bruce on Max.. and drive all night...
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Given that we face imminent extinction then it matters not a not.. I will just fire up my V8.. put Bruce on Max.. and drive all night...
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Not met many people who like to drive to the greatest hits of Bruce Forsythe- yer dirty bugger |
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"Working for one of the words largest engine manufacturer’s, we have a global mission to evolve our products and strictly regulate emission levels according to specific “COUNTRY” requirements.
Motorsports in general make up only 0.2% of real time emissions released into the atmosphere annually.
Compare that to Nigeria West Africa where the emission level is 6.3% DAILY! (This includes burnable waste also).
Believe it or not the UK and Europe have got strict guidelines in place to reduce emission levels which if you work in the road haulage industry you will know what I mean.
I fully understand the concern we face with regards to global warming however as a country that only represents a tiny percentage of the global emissions released and seeing what is going on further afield, banning motorsports is the least of our worries.
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Given that we face imminent extinction then it matters not a not.. I will just fire up my V8.. put Bruce on Max.. and drive all night...
Not met many people who like to drive to the greatest hits of Bruce Forsythe- yer dirty bugger "
Hahaha spat out my tea reading that... |
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