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"Why are you thinking of changing sides or are you a "straight " fab guy..lol" I tweaked a blokes nipple once, but it wasn’t my thang, dunno if that makes fab straight or no. | |||
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"Apologies if this topic has been covered before." Of course your apology is accepted OP, being fairly ‘new’ here you wouldn’t be expected to know if it had been covered before, would you. | |||
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"With some Fab Straight couples the man may feel worried about either unwanted advances from a bi male or that he might get aroused. Some women want their play partners centred on them or worry it will turn their man gay. Not to mention the perception that bi men may put them at higher risk of catching something. Just my opinion. Or it could just be that single men and single bi men outweigh the females and couples so that they rarely get a meet anyway. Perhaps the bi men blame bi phobia for this. There is only one thing worse to most fabsters than a bi man and that's a bi vegan man who puts no blacks or Asians on his profile.." Knew it wouldn't be long before we got round to the "might catch something" reason on this thread | |||
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"Thanks in advance c" I love bi men. An have had open relationship with a bi man. A certain ex friend found out about it and said it’s dirty. An how she would never sleep with a bi man. I laughed and said she had | |||
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"Hello OP lovely to see you! " | |||
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"With some Fab Straight couples the man may feel worried about either unwanted advances from a bi male or that he might get aroused. Some women want their play partners centred on them or worry it will turn their man gay. Not to mention the perception that bi men may put them at higher risk of catching something. Just my opinion. Or it could just be that single men and single bi men outweigh the females and couples so that they rarely get a meet anyway. Perhaps the bi men blame bi phobia for this. There is only one thing worse to most fabsters than a bi man and that's a bi vegan man who puts no blacks or Asians on his profile.. Knew it wouldn't be long before we got round to the "might catch something" reason on this thread " I don’t understand this argument. I’d play safe with ANY man I met on here, whether straight or bi. His sexual orientation wouldn’t make me more or less likely to protect myself from STIs. | |||
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"Cause they don’t have to or want to " this | |||
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"As a bi man who kept his bisexuality secret from women for a long time, I think it's more mens perception of bi men than the reality. I encountered a lot of biphobia from gay guys actually who drilled it into me that everyone agrees bisexuality doesnt actually exist and that Im just closetted gay- to the point I questioned myself whether I was gay. Now I'm in a long term relationship and she found out I was bi, I was amazed about how accepting she was. It's horrible feeling that if you expose yourself as bi people won't believe you and dismiss you as gay. I know biphobia exists within women and society in general but its really shocking how prevelent it is in the gay community, in my experience at least..." I definitely don't have a biphobia but it just doesn't "do" anything for me lol | |||
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"As a bi man who kept his bisexuality secret from women for a long time, I think it's more mens perception of bi men than the reality. I encountered a lot of biphobia from gay guys actually who drilled it into me that everyone agrees bisexuality doesnt actually exist and that Im just closetted gay- to the point I questioned myself whether I was gay. Now I'm in a long term relationship and she found out I was bi, I was amazed about how accepting she was. It's horrible feeling that if you expose yourself as bi people won't believe you and dismiss you as gay. I know biphobia exists within women and society in general but its really shocking how prevelent it is in the gay community, in my experience at least... I definitely don't have a biphobia but it just doesn't "do" anything for me lol " Sure but if they are asking for a 1 to 1 with you, what does it matter if they also like men? Not to shame you for your preference, everyone is entitled to it. Im just wondering as my girlfriend is also not turned on at the idea of watching 2 men but that doesnt put her off me... | |||
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"As a bi man who kept his bisexuality secret from women for a long time, I think it's more mens perception of bi men than the reality. I encountered a lot of biphobia from gay guys actually who drilled it into me that everyone agrees bisexuality doesnt actually exist and that Im just closetted gay- to the point I questioned myself whether I was gay. Now I'm in a long term relationship and she found out I was bi, I was amazed about how accepting she was. It's horrible feeling that if you expose yourself as bi people won't believe you and dismiss you as gay. I know biphobia exists within women and society in general but its really shocking how prevelent it is in the gay community, in my experience at least... I definitely don't have a biphobia but it just doesn't "do" anything for me lol " Same | |||
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"As a bi man who kept his bisexuality secret from women for a long time, I think it's more mens perception of bi men than the reality. I encountered a lot of biphobia from gay guys actually who drilled it into me that everyone agrees bisexuality doesnt actually exist and that Im just closetted gay- to the point I questioned myself whether I was gay. Now I'm in a long term relationship and she found out I was bi, I was amazed about how accepting she was. It's horrible feeling that if you expose yourself as bi people won't believe you and dismiss you as gay. I know biphobia exists within women and society in general but its really shocking how prevelent it is in the gay community, in my experience at least... I definitely don't have a biphobia but it just doesn't "do" anything for me lol Sure but if they are asking for a 1 to 1 with you, what does it matter if they also like men? Not to shame you for your preference, everyone is entitled to it. Im just wondering as my girlfriend is also not turned on at the idea of watching 2 men but that doesnt put her off me..." Oh I've never said won't meet them one to one lol | |||
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"Fair enough. I believe the OP was asking why some women dont meet bi men as a rule, not whether you enjoy seeing men fucking eachother " But you didn’t answer that question either | |||
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"Fair enough. I believe the OP was asking why some women dont meet bi men as a rule, not whether you enjoy seeing men fucking eachother " Oh I get that, but it's also down to whole attraction | |||
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"Fair enough. I believe the OP was asking why some women dont meet bi men as a rule, not whether you enjoy seeing men fucking eachother But you didn’t answer that question either " How can I? Im not a woman (she's at work) | |||
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"Fair enough. I believe the OP was asking why some women dont meet bi men as a rule, not whether you enjoy seeing men fucking eachother Oh I get that, but it's also down to whole attraction " I get that. No judgement. Even I have a weird attraction to straight men even though they don't want me back | |||
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"As a bi man who kept his bisexuality secret from women for a long time, I think it's more mens perception of bi men than the reality. I encountered a lot of biphobia from gay guys actually who drilled it into me that everyone agrees bisexuality doesnt actually exist and that Im just closetted gay- to the point I questioned myself whether I was gay. Now I'm in a long term relationship and she found out I was bi, I was amazed about how accepting she was. It's horrible feeling that if you expose yourself as bi people won't believe you and dismiss you as gay. I know biphobia exists within women and society in general but its really shocking how prevelent it is in the gay community, in my experience at least..." This is actually very true. The amount of animosity i recieve from the gay community is unreal and it ridiculous considering LGBT community has bisexual written in the title! | |||
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"As a bi man who kept his bisexuality secret from women for a long time, I think it's more mens perception of bi men than the reality. I encountered a lot of biphobia from gay guys actually who drilled it into me that everyone agrees bisexuality doesnt actually exist and that Im just closetted gay- to the point I questioned myself whether I was gay. Now I'm in a long term relationship and she found out I was bi, I was amazed about how accepting she was. It's horrible feeling that if you expose yourself as bi people won't believe you and dismiss you as gay. I know biphobia exists within women and society in general but its really shocking how prevelent it is in the gay community, in my experience at least... This is actually very true. The amount of animosity i recieve from the gay community is unreal and it ridiculous considering LGBT community has bisexual written in the title! " Well I think your gorgeous Sorry I know it's off topjc just couldn't resist | |||
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"We are happily married and bi! Both very open and also happy to play straight. As long as you know what the preferences are of the people you meet,then it shouldn’t matter! Why is it acceptable for most women on here to be bi or bi-curious and yet a guy puts it on his profile and they have a stigma attached to them! We know of a gay couple and 90% of the guys they meet claim to be straight and are usually married! So guys don’t be ashamed of admitting you are bi or curious the end of the day it’s just sex!! We find it very horny seeing each other with the same sex. Have fun everyone x" | |||
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"Apologies if this topic has been covered before." Welcome to the forum. Don't worry you can post whatever you like within forum rules. | |||
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"STI's. Dirty anal. They won't take "no" for an answer. " HPV virus is killing more and 80% of people are carrying it! Caused by vaginas ( which we I enjoy very much ) makes you think though! Know of someone who died of throat cancer caused by going down on a women! | |||
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"Nope, brand new topic by a brand new poster! Other topics to try - what do women prefer, x or y; are single men dicks, discuss; why can't I get a meet, I'm not a munter? Mrs TMN " | |||
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"Note to self, proof read the title." Returns in a blaze of glory, fucks it up but still carries on regardless Welcome home | |||
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"Note to self, proof read the title. Returns in a blaze of glory, fucks it up but still carries on regardless Welcome home " I was so excited to be back I could barely type, the tears of joy fell onto my phone screen and I couldn’t see! | |||
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"Nope, brand new topic by a brand new poster! Other topics to try - what do women prefer, x or y; are single men dicks, discuss; why can't I get a meet, I'm not a munter? Mrs TMN " They’re all next in line to be wheeled out of the thread shed. | |||
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"Note to self, proof read the title. Returns in a blaze of glory, fucks it up but still carries on regardless Welcome home I was so excited to be back I could barely type, the tears of joy fell onto my phone screen and I couldn’t see! " Here use the corners of my negligee to wipe your tears (actually at work in a hi viz and toetectors) | |||
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"STI's. Dirty anal. They won't take "no" for an answer. " Loads of women love dity anal! Wtf? Are mens anus's dirtier than woman's? | |||
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"STI's. Dirty anal. They won't take "no" for an answer. Loads of women love dity anal! Wtf? Are mens anus's dirtier than woman's?" Yes Women don’t shit | |||
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"Note to self, proof read the title. Returns in a blaze of glory, fucks it up but still carries on regardless Welcome home I was so excited to be back I could barely type, the tears of joy fell onto my phone screen and I couldn’t see! Here use the corners of my negligee to wipe your tears (actually at work in a hi viz and toetectors) " Can you keep just the hi viz on when you pop round mine later ? Thank in advance x | |||
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"Nope, brand new topic by a brand new poster! Other topics to try - what do women prefer, x or y; are single men dicks, discuss; why can't I get a meet, I'm not a munter? Mrs TMN They’re all next in line to be wheeled out of the thread shed." Oh I'm overjoyed the shed has been opened once more! The fora were dull without it. | |||
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"STI's. Dirty anal. They won't take "no" for an answer. Loads of women love dity anal! Wtf? Are mens anus's dirtier than woman's? Yes Women don’t shit" Perhaps that could be the OPs next thread foray | |||
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"Nope, brand new topic by a brand new poster! Other topics to try - what do women prefer, x or y; are single men dicks, discuss; why can't I get a meet, I'm not a munter? Mrs TMN They’re all next in line to be wheeled out of the thread shed. Oh I'm overjoyed the shed has been opened once more! The fora were dull without it." Im watering my threads as we speak, should be a bumper harvest. | |||
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"STI's. Dirty anal. They won't take "no" for an answer. Loads of women love dity anal! Wtf? Are mens anus's dirtier than woman's? Yes Women don’t shit" Oh I forgot about that. My bad | |||
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"STI's. Dirty anal. They won't take "no" for an answer. Loads of women love dity anal! Wtf? Are mens anus's dirtier than woman's? Yes Women don’t shit Perhaps that could be the OPs next thread foray" *Googles foray * | |||
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"STI's. Dirty anal. They won't take "no" for an answer. Loads of women love dity anal! Wtf? Are mens anus's dirtier than woman's? Yes Women don’t shit" | |||
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"STI's. Dirty anal. They won't take "no" for an answer. Loads of women love dity anal! Wtf? Are mens anus's dirtier than woman's? Yes Women don’t shit " This one does she's having one now. | |||
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"STI's. Dirty anal. They won't take "no" for an answer. Loads of women love dity anal! Wtf? Are mens anus's dirtier than woman's? Yes Women don’t shit This one does she's having one now." Witch! | |||
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"STI's. Dirty anal. They won't take "no" for an answer. Loads of women love dity anal! Wtf? Are mens anus's dirtier than woman's? Yes Women don’t shit This one does she's having one now." BREAKING: Some women go for a shit, when they’re on the forums. | |||
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"STI's. Dirty anal. They won't take "no" for an answer. Loads of women love dity anal! Wtf? Are mens anus's dirtier than woman's? Yes Women don’t shit This one does she's having one now. Witch!" | |||
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"It's well known in Fab circles that bisexual men are like the Dementors from Harry Potter: if you're a woman and you spend the night with a bi guy, they will try to suck your soul out of your body for their own nourishment. The only known defence is to put a protective ward on your Fab profile, using the words "No bisexual guys." These words are time honoured, and will cause the bisexual man burning pain even just to behold them. With any luck, the bisexual man will retreat and find another potential victim to ensnare in his shadowy claws, leaving you free to have totally hetero, no-homo sex with your partner and another man. " In a nutshell. | |||
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"It's well known in Fab circles that bisexual men are like the Dementors from Harry Potter: if you're a woman and you spend the night with a bi guy, they will try to suck your soul out of your body for their own nourishment. The only known defence is to put a protective ward on your Fab profile, using the words "No bisexual guys." These words are time honoured, and will cause the bisexual man burning pain even just to behold them. With any luck, the bisexual man will retreat and find another potential victim to ensnare in his shadowy claws, leaving you free to have totally hetero, no-homo sex with your partner and another man. " | |||
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"It's well known in Fab circles that bisexual men are like the Dementors from Harry Potter: if you're a woman and you spend the night with a bi guy, they will try to suck your soul out of your body for their own nourishment. The only known defence is to put a protective ward on your Fab profile, using the words "No bisexual guys." These words are time honoured, and will cause the bisexual man burning pain even just to behold them. With any luck, the bisexual man will retreat and find another potential victim to ensnare in his shadowy claws, leaving you free to have totally hetero, no-homo sex with your partner and another man. " | |||
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"As a bi man who kept his bisexuality secret from women for a long time, I think it's more mens perception of bi men than the reality. I encountered a lot of biphobia from gay guys actually who drilled it into me that everyone agrees bisexuality doesnt actually exist and that Im just closetted gay- to the point I questioned myself whether I was gay. Now I'm in a long term relationship and she found out I was bi, I was amazed about how accepting she was. It's horrible feeling that if you expose yourself as bi people won't believe you and dismiss you as gay. I know biphobia exists within women and society in general but its really shocking how prevelent it is in the gay community, in my experience at least... This is actually very true. The amount of animosity i recieve from the gay community is unreal and it ridiculous considering LGBT community has bisexual written in the title! Well I think your gorgeous Sorry I know it's off topjc just couldn't resist " So are both of you! I think we could have a pretty good night of bi mmf together or even mm | |||
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"STI's. Dirty anal. They won't take "no" for an answer. " Well in fairness im a self confessed bi slut for both women and men and ive never had an sti in my life and take my sexual health very seriously | |||
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"It's well known in Fab circles that bisexual men are like the Dementors from Harry Potter: if you're a woman and you spend the night with a bi guy, they will try to suck your soul out of your body for their own nourishment. The only known defence is to put a protective ward on your Fab profile, using the words "No bisexual guys." These words are time honoured, and will cause the bisexual man burning pain even just to behold them. With any luck, the bisexual man will retreat and find another potential victim to ensnare in his shadowy claws, leaving you free to have totally hetero, no-homo sex with your partner and another man. " Goddamn these are important secrets you're leaking here! How am i going to victimise and steal souls now?! Also you forgot to add bisexuals are spawned straight from hell and will turn anything they touch gay! | |||
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"Thanks in advance c" To save awkward situations that it your there in the moment and then a touch moment lost.. | |||
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"It's well known in Fab circles that bisexual men are like the Dementors from Harry Potter: if you're a woman and you spend the night with a bi guy, they will try to suck your soul out of your body for their own nourishment. The only known defence is to put a protective ward on your Fab profile, using the words "No bisexual guys." These words are time honoured, and will cause the bisexual man burning pain even just to behold them. With any luck, the bisexual man will retreat and find another potential victim to ensnare in his shadowy claws, leaving you free to have totally hetero, no-homo sex with your partner and another man. Goddamn these are important secrets you're leaking here! How am i going to victimise and steal souls now?! Also you forgot to add bisexuals are spawned straight from hell and will turn anything they touch gay! " I touched your message on the screen when I went to reply and now I'm a lesbian! | |||
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"When I go to the gum clinic I am always asked if I've had sex with bi guys!! It's the same when they ask if I've had sex with people who have visited foreign lands I quite often reply "I'm not always aware of my partners sexual orientation and I dont ask to look at their passport". I think that its assumed that all bi guys are promiscuous as opposed to hetro guys And I call bull on the poster who said that HPV is a female only thing!!! Some peoples ignorance on here never fails to surprise me. The human papillomavirus is the genital warts virus and it too is bi sexual " A couple of strains of HPV cause warts but there are hundreds and most don't. A couple can also cause cancer but most are harmless. Virtually every sexually active person will contract a strain of HPV at some point in their life, most will never know as it isn't routinely tested for. It's a lot more likely for a woman to know they have it than men as it is screened for during some gynae examinations or if you have an abnormal smear so I guess that is where that misconception comes from. Recently they have started screening for it at every smear test which is wonderful. It's a little amusing though that some think only women get HPV as where do they think they're catching it from when most women either only or prodominsntly have sex with men. | |||
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"Because I'm hogging them all. They give good blowjob tips." Come and watch ill give you a free demo, have to bring you're own demo model though | |||
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"When I go to the gum clinic I am always asked if I've had sex with bi guys!! It's the same when they ask if I've had sex with people who have visited foreign lands I quite often reply "I'm not always aware of my partners sexual orientation and I dont ask to look at their passport". I think that its assumed that all bi guys are promiscuous as opposed to hetro guys And I call bull on the poster who said that HPV is a female only thing!!! Some peoples ignorance on here never fails to surprise me. The human papillomavirus is the genital warts virus and it too is bi sexual A couple of strains of HPV cause warts but there are hundreds and most don't. A couple can also cause cancer but most are harmless. Virtually every sexually active person will contract a strain of HPV at some point in their life, most will never know as it isn't routinely tested for. It's a lot more likely for a woman to know they have it than men as it is screened for during some gynae examinations or if you have an abnormal smear so I guess that is where that misconception comes from. Recently they have started screening for it at every smear test which is wonderful. It's a little amusing though that some think only women get HPV as where do they think they're catching it from when most women either only or prodominsntly have sex with men." Don't like 80% of people have HPV1/2? That's the cold sore right? | |||
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"Because I'm hogging them all. They give good blowjob tips. Come and watch ill give you a free demo, have to bring you're own demo model though " Brb. I'll go get him out the loft and blow the dust off. | |||
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"When I go to the gum clinic I am always asked if I've had sex with bi guys!! It's the same when they ask if I've had sex with people who have visited foreign lands I quite often reply "I'm not always aware of my partners sexual orientation and I dont ask to look at their passport". I think that its assumed that all bi guys are promiscuous as opposed to hetro guys And I call bull on the poster who said that HPV is a female only thing!!! Some peoples ignorance on here never fails to surprise me. The human papillomavirus is the genital warts virus and it too is bi sexual A couple of strains of HPV cause warts but there are hundreds and most don't. A couple can also cause cancer but most are harmless. Virtually every sexually active person will contract a strain of HPV at some point in their life, most will never know as it isn't routinely tested for. It's a lot more likely for a woman to know they have it than men as it is screened for during some gynae examinations or if you have an abnormal smear so I guess that is where that misconception comes from. Recently they have started screening for it at every smear test which is wonderful. It's a little amusing though that some think only women get HPV as where do they think they're catching it from when most women either only or prodominsntly have sex with men. Don't like 80% of people have HPV1/2? That's the cold sore right?" No you're thinking of HSV. | |||
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"When I go to the gum clinic I am always asked if I've had sex with bi guys!! It's the same when they ask if I've had sex with people who have visited foreign lands I quite often reply "I'm not always aware of my partners sexual orientation and I dont ask to look at their passport". I think that its assumed that all bi guys are promiscuous as opposed to hetro guys And I call bull on the poster who said that HPV is a female only thing!!! Some peoples ignorance on here never fails to surprise me. The human papillomavirus is the genital warts virus and it too is bi sexual A couple of strains of HPV cause warts but there are hundreds and most don't. A couple can also cause cancer but most are harmless. Virtually every sexually active person will contract a strain of HPV at some point in their life, most will never know as it isn't routinely tested for. It's a lot more likely for a woman to know they have it than men as it is screened for during some gynae examinations or if you have an abnormal smear so I guess that is where that misconception comes from. Recently they have started screening for it at every smear test which is wonderful. It's a little amusing though that some think only women get HPV as where do they think they're catching it from when most women either only or prodominsntly have sex with men. Don't like 80% of people have HPV1/2? That's the cold sore right? No you're thinking of HSV." AHH gotcha! | |||
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"STI's. Dirty anal. They won't take "no" for an answer. " Wow i hope for your sake this was tongue in cheek!! I'm happy to meet bi guys if the connection is there | |||
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"Women are bigger hypocrits than men, simple. " Explain? | |||
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"Women are bigger hypocrits than men, simple. " You best have a good theory to go with that mate... | |||
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"In most cases women are more aware of sti's and take more care with their sexual health. Bi men have a reputation of multiple partners and a less than exemplary attitude to wearing condoms. " Are they? And do they? Not in my experience. Mrs TMN | |||
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"In most cases women are more aware of sti's and take more care with their sexual health. Bi men have a reputation of multiple partners and a less than exemplary attitude to wearing condoms. " Just because some do it's a bit much to make it a blanket rule. Some bisexual men have never had sex with another man or only have with a very small number. A large number of heterosexual men have multiple partners and don't use condoms. As do some women. I work in sexual health and I would say there isn't a vast difference in who is more careful with their sexual health. Just that more men don't seem as bothered about the risks and more women are ignorant to the risks. | |||
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"No staying power, some "men" " You tell them, him, it | |||
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"hes worn himself away with posting all his threads" You wouldn't catch a bi man fading so fast | |||
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"If a woman declines sex with all bi men is that preference or discrimination on the grounds of sexual persuasion ?" always preference,says you wont meet smokers so is that your preference or you discrimination of smokers? | |||
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"There are rules and laws about where people can smoke but no laws protecting the rights of smokers. There are laws protecting discrimination on the grounds of sexual preference. I think." for a job maybe yes but for meeting someone for sex? cool if there is not then I the mr will shout discrimination act because that guy over there looks good and wont fuck with me.may aswell shout racism because that indian chick over there wont let me fuck her. | |||
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"STI's. Dirty anal. They won't take "no" for an answer. Loads of women love dity anal! Wtf? Are mens anus's dirtier than woman's? Yes Women don’t shit This one does she's having one now." Had to do a double take that wasn't P posting there.... B | |||
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"If a woman declines sex with all bi men is that preference or discrimination on the grounds of sexual persuasion ?" Maybe its preference, maybe its a bit of prejudice but I don't believe people should be shamed for their sexual preferences. We all like different things. | |||
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"In most cases women are more aware of sti's and take more care with their sexual health. Bi men have a reputation of multiple partners and a less than exemplary attitude to wearing condoms. Just because some do it's a bit much to make it a blanket rule. Some bisexual men have never had sex with another man or only have with a very small number. A large number of heterosexual men have multiple partners and don't use condoms. As do some women. I work in sexual health and I would say there isn't a vast difference in who is more careful with their sexual health. Just that more men don't seem as bothered about the risks and more women are ignorant to the risks." | |||
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"In most cases women are more aware of sti's and take more care with their sexual health. Bi men have a reputation of multiple partners and a less than exemplary attitude to wearing condoms. " Thats just dumb. The amount of straight men on here cheating on their partners is crazy. I'm bi and I've never had unsafe sex. Loads of men and women have multiple sexual partners, you're on a swingers site, most on here have multiple sexual partners, wake up! | |||
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"Coolio Iglesias has left the conversation " Bye man. | |||
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"All men have the capacity to be bi or gay...it's just finding the magic key to unlock it.. " Please let me have a copy of that key | |||
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"Load of bollocks, this is a site that is mainly dictated by women, that are on a sex site. They say they are bi and can lick a pussy, but a man can't suck a cock. Couples if you do get a bi man didn't mean he wants or has to suck your mans cock. It's just a preference and can happen if all happy with situation. If people on here want normal join a dating site" Lol | |||
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"Funny really because the thought of watching 2 men together makes me feel quite queasy. Now if I left it at that I’d get some real abuse and get called all sorts. But if I add to that the thought of watching a man and a woman together would also make me feel quite queasy then would I get slated for that? I’m not one for watching people I get absolutely nothing out of that. Everyone’s minds work differently and why can’t people accept that? I have many male bisexual friends who I adore but I don’t want to have sex with a bisexual man. I just don’t. Why do I need a reason? My reason is I don’t want to. I really don’t get why that is a problem for anyone!" However, watching 2 women together really turns me on. Yet I prefer men. Go figure! Yep we’re all different. | |||
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"I get plenty of messages from straight men on here that are secretly bi. Ladies - keep an eye on your husbands!! " If I was married I’d be happy for my husband to play with you as long as I get to watch! You’re hot! | |||
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"OP gone again? " who was the OP? | |||
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"OP gone again? who was the OP?" Coolio Iglesias AKA Tame | |||
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"OP gone again? who was the OP? Coolio Iglesias AKA Tame " Oooooooh | |||
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"OP gone again? who was the OP?" Tame Impala.. under guise of Coolio. I like him, but wish he'd stay, or go.. So it puts an end to the "Where is Tame" Threads. | |||
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"With some Fab Straight couples the man may feel worried about either unwanted advances from a bi male or that he might get aroused. Some women want their play partners centred on them or worry it will turn their man gay. Not to mention the perception that bi men may put them at higher risk of catching something. Just my opinion. Or it could just be that single men and single bi men outweigh the females and couples so that they rarely get a meet anyway. Perhaps the bi men blame bi phobia for this. There is only one thing worse to most fabsters than a bi man and that's a bi vegan man who puts no blacks or Asians on his profile.. Knew it wouldn't be long before we got round to the "might catch something" reason on this thread " Many females wont meet bo men due to the fact of " a possible std" its their choice of reason regardless of what you think | |||
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"Is judging people by their sexuality any different from judging people by their religion etc" No one is judging. It is just personal choice. | |||
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"With some Fab Straight couples the man may feel worried about either unwanted advances from a bi male or that he might get aroused. Some women want their play partners centred on them or worry it will turn their man gay. Not to mention the perception that bi men may put them at higher risk of catching something. Just my opinion. Or it could just be that single men and single bi men outweigh the females and couples so that they rarely get a meet anyway. Perhaps the bi men blame bi phobia for this. There is only one thing worse to most fabsters than a bi man and that's a bi vegan man who puts no blacks or Asians on his profile.. Knew it wouldn't be long before we got round to the "might catch something" reason on this thread Many females wont meet bo men due to the fact of " a possible std" its their choice of reason regardless of what you think" To be honest that never even crossed my mind until someone mentioned it on here. I don’t know the stats or whether that’s true or not but that didn’t come into any reason for me. I’m wary of everyone in that regard no matter their sexual preference. | |||
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"With some Fab Straight couples the man may feel worried about either unwanted advances from a bi male or that he might get aroused. Some women want their play partners centred on them or worry it will turn their man gay. Not to mention the perception that bi men may put them at higher risk of catching something. Just my opinion. Or it could just be that single men and single bi men outweigh the females and couples so that they rarely get a meet anyway. Perhaps the bi men blame bi phobia for this. There is only one thing worse to most fabsters than a bi man and that's a bi vegan man who puts no blacks or Asians on his profile.. Knew it wouldn't be long before we got round to the "might catch something" reason on this thread Many females wont meet bo men due to the fact of " a possible std" its their choice of reason regardless of what you think" Just like its ours to counter that stupidity and ignorance with reasoned debate. Like pointing out the only people who've ever pressured me to play without protection are Straight Couples. | |||
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"Is judging people by their sexuality any different from judging people by their religion etc No one is judging. It is just personal choice. " I'm judging. | |||
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"Load of bollocks, this is a site that is mainly dictated by women, that are on a sex site. They say they are bi and can lick a pussy, but a man can't suck a cock. Couples if you do get a bi man didn't mean he wants or has to suck your mans cock. It's just a preference and can happen if all happy with situation. If people on here want normal join a dating site" What exactly do you class as not normal? | |||
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"Is judging people by their sexuality any different from judging people by their religion etc No one is judging. It is just personal choice. I'm judging. " Judge away! | |||
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"With some Fab Straight couples the man may feel worried about either unwanted advances from a bi male or that he might get aroused. Some women want their play partners centred on them or worry it will turn their man gay. Not to mention the perception that bi men may put them at higher risk of catching something. Just my opinion. Or it could just be that single men and single bi men outweigh the females and couples so that they rarely get a meet anyway. Perhaps the bi men blame bi phobia for this. There is only one thing worse to most fabsters than a bi man and that's a bi vegan man who puts no blacks or Asians on his profile.. Knew it wouldn't be long before we got round to the "might catch something" reason on this thread Many females wont meet bo men due to the fact of " a possible std" its their choice of reason regardless of what you think To be honest that never even crossed my mind until someone mentioned it on here. I don’t know the stats or whether that’s true or not but that didn’t come into any reason for me. I’m wary of everyone in that regard no matter their sexual preference. " Best way to be. A lot of women assume other women are safer compared to sleeping with men and it's not true. | |||
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"All men have the capacity to be bi or gay...it's just finding the magic key to unlock it.. " The capacity, yes. The will, no. Personal choice, leave them to it! | |||
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"With some Fab Straight couples the man may feel worried about either unwanted advances from a bi male or that he might get aroused. Some women want their play partners centred on them or worry it will turn their man gay. Not to mention the perception that bi men may put them at higher risk of catching something. Just my opinion. Or it could just be that single men and single bi men outweigh the females and couples so that they rarely get a meet anyway. Perhaps the bi men blame bi phobia for this. There is only one thing worse to most fabsters than a bi man and that's a bi vegan man who puts no blacks or Asians on his profile.. Knew it wouldn't be long before we got round to the "might catch something" reason on this thread Many females wont meet bo men due to the fact of " a possible std" its their choice of reason regardless of what you think To be honest that never even crossed my mind until someone mentioned it on here. I don’t know the stats or whether that’s true or not but that didn’t come into any reason for me. I’m wary of everyone in that regard no matter their sexual preference. Best way to be. A lot of women assume other women are safer compared to sleeping with men and it's not true." No it’s not. The only person Ive ever known who caught an STI is a woman who shared a toy with another woman. | |||
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"Maybe people have free will and choose who and what they want? Some will go with bi men (or women) and some won't. It's their choice, leave them to it! " Voice of reason. | |||
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"Funny really because the thought of watching 2 men together makes me feel quite queasy. Now if I left it at that I’d get some real abuse and get called all sorts. But if I add to that the thought of watching a man and a woman together would also make me feel quite queasy then would I get slated for that? I’m not one for watching people I get absolutely nothing out of that. Everyone’s minds work differently and why can’t people accept that? I have many male bisexual friends who I adore but I don’t want to have sex with a bisexual man. I just don’t. Why do I need a reason? My reason is I don’t want to. I really don’t get why that is a problem for anyone!" | |||
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"If a woman declines sex with all bi men is that preference or discrimination on the grounds of sexual persuasion ?" Choice. The result of experience. Being herself. | |||
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"With some Fab Straight couples the man may feel worried about either unwanted advances from a bi male or that he might get aroused. Some women want their play partners centred on them or worry it will turn their man gay. Not to mention the perception that bi men may put them at higher risk of catching something. Just my opinion. Or it could just be that single men and single bi men outweigh the females and couples so that they rarely get a meet anyway. Perhaps the bi men blame bi phobia for this. There is only one thing worse to most fabsters than a bi man and that's a bi vegan man who puts no blacks or Asians on his profile.. Knew it wouldn't be long before we got round to the "might catch something" reason on this thread Many females wont meet bo men due to the fact of " a possible std" its their choice of reason regardless of what you think To be honest that never even crossed my mind until someone mentioned it on here. I don’t know the stats or whether that’s true or not but that didn’t come into any reason for me. I’m wary of everyone in that regard no matter their sexual preference. Best way to be. A lot of women assume other women are safer compared to sleeping with men and it's not true. No it’s not. The only person Ive ever known who caught an STI is a woman who shared a toy with another woman. " I have a friend who caught HSV2 the first time she had sex with another woman. Talk about rotten luck! | |||
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"A scenario... You are a female at a party and there are several guys there.. one guy is stunningingly attractive, great body, and you want to bed him so badly he is making you weak at the knees.. You are then told he is bi so you bin that idea.. Preference or prejudice..?" Good question. But I wouldn’t be in that scenario so I don’t know. | |||
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"Being bisexual is one of your core values, something you cannot change about yourself, no matter how hard you may want to. Just like ethnicity. It's not like a Faith or Religion you can think about and then change or adapt over time. There are a ton of misconceptions spread about ethnicity and sexuality that stop people meeting others from different ethnicities or sexualities. Only my sexuality isn't visible. It cant be seen, heard, smelt or felt. I'm not riddled with STIs, I'm not effeminate or camp, I'm quite hard, tough and masculine and youd never know about it unless I told you. So how that can have any effect on whether a woman would sleep with me and be fobbed off with personal choice, or preference as a defence is way beyond my limited comprehension. I'm sorry, well I'm not really, not at all.. but I do like to counter stupid statements occasionally. Experience is about the only excuse I'd admit (if you would have, if you didnt know I was bi). I can understand why bad experiences put people off certain groups, but it's still a very narrow minded viewpoint to hold I think and you're only stopping yourself from meeting someone who is potentially right up your street. I like it when someone openly points out on their profile that they're racist or homophobic, because that's pretty much what it boils down to when you exclude people outright.. just for their sexuality or skin colour alone. Racism and Homophobia arent all about beating someone up because they're different. You can have gay friends yet still be a bit homophobic, because it's a spectrum. There are differing levels of it. I'm not telling anyone who they have to sleep with, it is your body, but if you don't operate on the fact that there could be an exception to the rule, then what else is left to say..? Sexuality is invisible and ethnicity comes in so many shades." Would you fuck an 80 year old person? | |||
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"Being bisexual is one of your core values, something you cannot change about yourself, no matter how hard you may want to. Just like ethnicity. It's not like a Faith or Religion you can think about and then change or adapt over time. There are a ton of misconceptions spread about ethnicity and sexuality that stop people meeting others from different ethnicities or sexualities. Only my sexuality isn't visible. It cant be seen, heard, smelt or felt. I'm not riddled with STIs, I'm not effeminate or camp, I'm quite hard, tough and masculine and youd never know about it unless I told you. So how that can have any effect on whether a woman would sleep with me and be fobbed off with personal choice, or preference as a defence is way beyond my limited comprehension. I'm sorry, well I'm not really, not at all.. but I do like to counter stupid statements occasionally. Experience is about the only excuse I'd admit (if you would have, if you didnt know I was bi). I can understand why bad experiences put people off certain groups, but it's still a very narrow minded viewpoint to hold I think and you're only stopping yourself from meeting someone who is potentially right up your street. I like it when someone openly points out on their profile that they're racist or homophobic, because that's pretty much what it boils down to when you exclude people outright.. just for their sexuality or skin colour alone. Racism and Homophobia arent all about beating someone up because they're different. You can have gay friends yet still be a bit homophobic, because it's a spectrum. There are differing levels of it. I'm not telling anyone who they have to sleep with, it is your body, but if you don't operate on the fact that there could be an exception to the rule, then what else is left to say..? Sexuality is invisible and ethnicity comes in so many shades. Would you fuck an 80 year old person?" Not at the moment, but I guess that makes me a little age-ist.. I'm ok with that. I accept what I am and dont hide behind preference. Also, when I'm 80, hell yes I would. | |||
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"Being bisexual is one of your core values, something you cannot change about yourself, no matter how hard you may want to. Just like ethnicity. It's not like a Faith or Religion you can think about and then change or adapt over time. There are a ton of misconceptions spread about ethnicity and sexuality that stop people meeting others from different ethnicities or sexualities. Only my sexuality isn't visible. It cant be seen, heard, smelt or felt. I'm not riddled with STIs, I'm not effeminate or camp, I'm quite hard, tough and masculine and youd never know about it unless I told you. So how that can have any effect on whether a woman would sleep with me and be fobbed off with personal choice, or preference as a defence is way beyond my limited comprehension. I'm sorry, well I'm not really, not at all.. but I do like to counter stupid statements occasionally. Experience is about the only excuse I'd admit (if you would have, if you didnt know I was bi). I can understand why bad experiences put people off certain groups, but it's still a very narrow minded viewpoint to hold I think and you're only stopping yourself from meeting someone who is potentially right up your street. I like it when someone openly points out on their profile that they're racist or homophobic, because that's pretty much what it boils down to when you exclude people outright.. just for their sexuality or skin colour alone. Racism and Homophobia arent all about beating someone up because they're different. You can have gay friends yet still be a bit homophobic, because it's a spectrum. There are differing levels of it. I'm not telling anyone who they have to sleep with, it is your body, but if you don't operate on the fact that there could be an exception to the rule, then what else is left to say..? Sexuality is invisible and ethnicity comes in so many shades. Would you fuck an 80 year old person? Not at the moment, but I guess that makes me a little age-ist.. I'm ok with that. I accept what I am and dont hide behind preference. Also, when I'm 80, hell yes I would. " Ageist and age phobic. | |||
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"Being bisexual is one of your core values, something you cannot change about yourself, no matter how hard you may want to. Just like ethnicity. It's not like a Faith or Religion you can think about and then change or adapt over time. There are a ton of misconceptions spread about ethnicity and sexuality that stop people meeting others from different ethnicities or sexualities. Only my sexuality isn't visible. It cant be seen, heard, smelt or felt. I'm not riddled with STIs, I'm not effeminate or camp, I'm quite hard, tough and masculine and youd never know about it unless I told you. So how that can have any effect on whether a woman would sleep with me and be fobbed off with personal choice, or preference as a defence is way beyond my limited comprehension. I'm sorry, well I'm not really, not at all.. but I do like to counter stupid statements occasionally. Experience is about the only excuse I'd admit (if you would have, if you didnt know I was bi). I can understand why bad experiences put people off certain groups, but it's still a very narrow minded viewpoint to hold I think and you're only stopping yourself from meeting someone who is potentially right up your street. I like it when someone openly points out on their profile that they're racist or homophobic, because that's pretty much what it boils down to when you exclude people outright.. just for their sexuality or skin colour alone. Racism and Homophobia arent all about beating someone up because they're different. You can have gay friends yet still be a bit homophobic, because it's a spectrum. There are differing levels of it. I'm not telling anyone who they have to sleep with, it is your body, but if you don't operate on the fact that there could be an exception to the rule, then what else is left to say..? Sexuality is invisible and ethnicity comes in so many shades. Would you fuck an 80 year old person? Not at the moment, but I guess that makes me a little age-ist.. I'm ok with that. I accept what I am and dont hide behind preference. Also, when I'm 80, hell yes I would. Ageist and age phobic. " I'll own that | |||
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"Being bisexual is one of your core values, something you cannot change about yourself, no matter how hard you may want to. Just like ethnicity. It's not like a Faith or Religion you can think about and then change or adapt over time. There are a ton of misconceptions spread about ethnicity and sexuality that stop people meeting others from different ethnicities or sexualities. Only my sexuality isn't visible. It cant be seen, heard, smelt or felt. I'm not riddled with STIs, I'm not effeminate or camp, I'm quite hard, tough and masculine and youd never know about it unless I told you. So how that can have any effect on whether a woman would sleep with me and be fobbed off with personal choice, or preference as a defence is way beyond my limited comprehension. I'm sorry, well I'm not really, not at all.. but I do like to counter stupid statements occasionally. Experience is about the only excuse I'd admit (if you would have, if you didnt know I was bi). I can understand why bad experiences put people off certain groups, but it's still a very narrow minded viewpoint to hold I think and you're only stopping yourself from meeting someone who is potentially right up your street. I like it when someone openly points out on their profile that they're racist or homophobic, because that's pretty much what it boils down to when you exclude people outright.. just for their sexuality or skin colour alone. Racism and Homophobia arent all about beating someone up because they're different. You can have gay friends yet still be a bit homophobic, because it's a spectrum. There are differing levels of it. I'm not telling anyone who they have to sleep with, it is your body, but if you don't operate on the fact that there could be an exception to the rule, then what else is left to say..? Sexuality is invisible and ethnicity comes in so many shades. Would you fuck an 80 year old person? Not at the moment, but I guess that makes me a little age-ist.. I'm ok with that. I accept what I am and dont hide behind preference. Also, when I'm 80, hell yes I would. Ageist and age phobic. I'll own that " I'm ageist heightist racist homophobic sexist swingist. | |||
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"Being bisexual is one of your core values, something you cannot change about yourself, no matter how hard you may want to. Just like ethnicity. It's not like a Faith or Religion you can think about and then change or adapt over time. There are a ton of misconceptions spread about ethnicity and sexuality that stop people meeting others from different ethnicities or sexualities. Only my sexuality isn't visible. It cant be seen, heard, smelt or felt. I'm not riddled with STIs, I'm not effeminate or camp, I'm quite hard, tough and masculine and youd never know about it unless I told you. So how that can have any effect on whether a woman would sleep with me and be fobbed off with personal choice, or preference as a defence is way beyond my limited comprehension. I'm sorry, well I'm not really, not at all.. but I do like to counter stupid statements occasionally. Experience is about the only excuse I'd admit (if you would have, if you didnt know I was bi). I can understand why bad experiences put people off certain groups, but it's still a very narrow minded viewpoint to hold I think and you're only stopping yourself from meeting someone who is potentially right up your street. I like it when someone openly points out on their profile that they're racist or homophobic, because that's pretty much what it boils down to when you exclude people outright.. just for their sexuality or skin colour alone. Racism and Homophobia arent all about beating someone up because they're different. You can have gay friends yet still be a bit homophobic, because it's a spectrum. There are differing levels of it. I'm not telling anyone who they have to sleep with, it is your body, but if you don't operate on the fact that there could be an exception to the rule, then what else is left to say..? Sexuality is invisible and ethnicity comes in so many shades." I dont know man. I think sexuality is complicated and shaming someone for their preferences isn't right. I mean it's like you said at the beginning- you don't choose who you are attracted to, and people accept that straight people aren't attracted to the same gender and gay people aren't attracted to the opposite sex. It's a bit harder for me to understand why a woman would not be attracted to a bi man as I think that is a bit disingenuous as some men seem to be secretly bi and their partners think they are straight, so would they instantly stop being attracted to that person if they knew he was bi? I doubt it and if they did it might be down to homophobia or biphobia... But still, let I don't think its right to shame people who have preferences. I'm bi but I can't see myself attracted to a transsexual person. Does that make my transphobic? I dont think so. I'm also very rarely attracted to asian men or black women... I didn't choose those preferences and I'd never say never, but I really doubt I want to be with either and I don't think I should be shamed into doing it. It's just not the right way to go about things. | |||
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"The sadest thing about this site is the rudnest and arrogance of some people. We are all basically on here for one reason, if not shouldn't be on here anyway. Doesn't matter if straight,gay,bi,married,single, cheating, black,white,race or religion, if we send or receive a message, a simple thank you or no thanks goes a long way. We should all think ourselfs lucky someone though we were worth spending some time on to message " I think it's rude when you say what you want in your profile and they message anyway, then after being rejected continue to message. Or they just say hey and have nothing else to say and have nothing on their profile. Sorry I dont really have for you. Respect goes both ways. | |||
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"The sadest thing about this site is the rudnest and arrogance of some people. We are all basically on here for one reason, if not shouldn't be on here anyway. Doesn't matter if straight,gay,bi,married,single, cheating, black,white,race or religion, if we send or receive a message, a simple thank you or no thanks goes a long way. We should all think ourselfs lucky someone though we were worth spending some time on to message I think it's rude when you say what you want in your profile and they message anyway, then after being rejected continue to message. Or they just say hey and have nothing else to say and have nothing on their profile. Sorry I dont really have for you. Respect goes both ways." Totally agree but most of us arnt stupid and can tell who is wasting everyone's time | |||
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"Being bisexual is one of your core values, something you cannot change about yourself, no matter how hard you may want to. Just like ethnicity. It's not like a Faith or Religion you can think about and then change or adapt over time. There are a ton of misconceptions spread about ethnicity and sexuality that stop people meeting others from different ethnicities or sexualities. Only my sexuality isn't visible. It cant be seen, heard, smelt or felt. I'm not riddled with STIs, I'm not effeminate or camp, I'm quite hard, tough and masculine and youd never know about it unless I told you. So how that can have any effect on whether a woman would sleep with me and be fobbed off with personal choice, or preference as a defence is way beyond my limited comprehension. I'm sorry, well I'm not really, not at all.. but I do like to counter stupid statements occasionally. Experience is about the only excuse I'd admit (if you would have, if you didnt know I was bi). I can understand why bad experiences put people off certain groups, but it's still a very narrow minded viewpoint to hold I think and you're only stopping yourself from meeting someone who is potentially right up your street. I like it when someone openly points out on their profile that they're racist or homophobic, because that's pretty much what it boils down to when you exclude people outright.. just for their sexuality or skin colour alone. Racism and Homophobia arent all about beating someone up because they're different. You can have gay friends yet still be a bit homophobic, because it's a spectrum. There are differing levels of it. I'm not telling anyone who they have to sleep with, it is your body, but if you don't operate on the fact that there could be an exception to the rule, then what else is left to say..? Sexuality is invisible and ethnicity comes in so many shades. I dont know man. I think sexuality is complicated and shaming someone for their preferences isn't right. I mean it's like you said at the beginning- you don't choose who you are attracted to, and people accept that straight people aren't attracted to the same gender and gay people aren't attracted to the opposite sex. It's a bit harder for me to understand why a woman would not be attracted to a bi man as I think that is a bit disingenuous as some men seem to be secretly bi and their partners think they are straight, so would they instantly stop being attracted to that person if they knew he was bi? I doubt it and if they did it might be down to homophobia or biphobia... But still, let I don't think its right to shame people who have preferences. I'm bi but I can't see myself attracted to a transsexual person. Does that make my transphobic? I dont think so. I'm also very rarely attracted to asian men or black women... I didn't choose those preferences and I'd never say never, but I really doubt I want to be with either and I don't think I should be shamed into doing it. It's just not the right way to go about things. " I'm not shaming anyone. If they feel ashamed, then perhaps they should have a good inwards look to why they hold views like those. I have and it changed my mind, still continue to grow each day the more I learn about myself. I'm not singling anyone out and Mavis makes a good point about age. None of us are perfect. I'm not saying people aren't allowed to hold preference, I'm not saying those who do, are wrong uns. All I would like, is for people to question a little deeper as to why they hold certain preferences or exclude others, based on certain things. Racist and Homophobic terms are strong and imply lots of other things which again.. may or may not be true about the individual. No different than what they're doing to others though is it? Making assumptions. | |||
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"Being bisexual is one of your core values, something you cannot change about yourself, no matter how hard you may want to. Just like ethnicity. It's not like a Faith or Religion you can think about and then change or adapt over time. There are a ton of misconceptions spread about ethnicity and sexuality that stop people meeting others from different ethnicities or sexualities. Only my sexuality isn't visible. It cant be seen, heard, smelt or felt. I'm not riddled with STIs, I'm not effeminate or camp, I'm quite hard, tough and masculine and youd never know about it unless I told you. So how that can have any effect on whether a woman would sleep with me and be fobbed off with personal choice, or preference as a defence is way beyond my limited comprehension. I'm sorry, well I'm not really, not at all.. but I do like to counter stupid statements occasionally. Experience is about the only excuse I'd admit (if you would have, if you didnt know I was bi). I can understand why bad experiences put people off certain groups, but it's still a very narrow minded viewpoint to hold I think and you're only stopping yourself from meeting someone who is potentially right up your street. I like it when someone openly points out on their profile that they're racist or homophobic, because that's pretty much what it boils down to when you exclude people outright.. just for their sexuality or skin colour alone. Racism and Homophobia arent all about beating someone up because they're different. You can have gay friends yet still be a bit homophobic, because it's a spectrum. There are differing levels of it. I'm not telling anyone who they have to sleep with, it is your body, but if you don't operate on the fact that there could be an exception to the rule, then what else is left to say..? Sexuality is invisible and ethnicity comes in so many shades. I dont know man. I think sexuality is complicated and shaming someone for their preferences isn't right. I mean it's like you said at the beginning- you don't choose who you are attracted to, and people accept that straight people aren't attracted to the same gender and gay people aren't attracted to the opposite sex. It's a bit harder for me to understand why a woman would not be attracted to a bi man as I think that is a bit disingenuous as some men seem to be secretly bi and their partners think they are straight, so would they instantly stop being attracted to that person if they knew he was bi? I doubt it and if they did it might be down to homophobia or biphobia... But still, let I don't think its right to shame people who have preferences. I'm bi but I can't see myself attracted to a transsexual person. Does that make my transphobic? I dont think so. I'm also very rarely attracted to asian men or black women... I didn't choose those preferences and I'd never say never, but I really doubt I want to be with either and I don't think I should be shamed into doing it. It's just not the right way to go about things. " | |||
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"Being bisexual is one of your core values, something you cannot change about yourself, no matter how hard you may want to. Just like ethnicity. It's not like a Faith or Religion you can think about and then change or adapt over time. There are a ton of misconceptions spread about ethnicity and sexuality that stop people meeting others from different ethnicities or sexualities. Only my sexuality isn't visible. It cant be seen, heard, smelt or felt. I'm not riddled with STIs, I'm not effeminate or camp, I'm quite hard, tough and masculine and youd never know about it unless I told you. So how that can have any effect on whether a woman would sleep with me and be fobbed off with personal choice, or preference as a defence is way beyond my limited comprehension. I'm sorry, well I'm not really, not at all.. but I do like to counter stupid statements occasionally. Experience is about the only excuse I'd admit (if you would have, if you didnt know I was bi). I can understand why bad experiences put people off certain groups, but it's still a very narrow minded viewpoint to hold I think and you're only stopping yourself from meeting someone who is potentially right up your street. I like it when someone openly points out on their profile that they're racist or homophobic, because that's pretty much what it boils down to when you exclude people outright.. just for their sexuality or skin colour alone. Racism and Homophobia arent all about beating someone up because they're different. You can have gay friends yet still be a bit homophobic, because it's a spectrum. There are differing levels of it. I'm not telling anyone who they have to sleep with, it is your body, but if you don't operate on the fact that there could be an exception to the rule, then what else is left to say..? Sexuality is invisible and ethnicity comes in so many shades. I dont know man. I think sexuality is complicated and shaming someone for their preferences isn't right. I mean it's like you said at the beginning- you don't choose who you are attracted to, and people accept that straight people aren't attracted to the same gender and gay people aren't attracted to the opposite sex. It's a bit harder for me to understand why a woman would not be attracted to a bi man as I think that is a bit disingenuous as some men seem to be secretly bi and their partners think they are straight, so would they instantly stop being attracted to that person if they knew he was bi? I doubt it and if they did it might be down to homophobia or biphobia... But still, let I don't think its right to shame people who have preferences. I'm bi but I can't see myself attracted to a transsexual person. Does that make my transphobic? I dont think so. I'm also very rarely attracted to asian men or black women... I didn't choose those preferences and I'd never say never, but I really doubt I want to be with either and I don't think I should be shamed into doing it. It's just not the right way to go about things. I'm not shaming anyone. If they feel ashamed, then perhaps they should have a good inwards look to why they hold views like those. I have and it changed my mind, still continue to grow each day the more I learn about myself. I'm not singling anyone out and Mavis makes a good point about age. None of us are perfect. I'm not saying people aren't allowed to hold preference, I'm not saying those who do, are wrong uns. All I would like, is for people to question a little deeper as to why they hold certain preferences or exclude others, based on certain things. Racist and Homophobic terms are strong and imply lots of other things which again.. may or may not be true about the individual. No different than what they're doing to others though is it? Making assumptions. " People use the terms racist, homophobic, ageist, etc all the time when someone says they don't want to fuck them. I use the terms about me because in some people's eyes- because I said no thank you- they think I am one. Fine by me. I do understand what you're saying about wanting people to challenge their preferences and think about the 'why'. (I have and it's still a no thanks.) But I also think we should accept their "no". They can have a think internally about their reasons but they don't have to explain or justify them to anyone else. No means no. It doesn't mean 'well I don't accept your reason as true, so you are a bad person'. | |||
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"Being bisexual is one of your core values, something you cannot change about yourself, no matter how hard you may want to. Just like ethnicity. It's not like a Faith or Religion you can think about and then change or adapt over time. There are a ton of misconceptions spread about ethnicity and sexuality that stop people meeting others from different ethnicities or sexualities. Only my sexuality isn't visible. It cant be seen, heard, smelt or felt. I'm not riddled with STIs, I'm not effeminate or camp, I'm quite hard, tough and masculine and youd never know about it unless I told you. So how that can have any effect on whether a woman would sleep with me and be fobbed off with personal choice, or preference as a defence is way beyond my limited comprehension. I'm sorry, well I'm not really, not at all.. but I do like to counter stupid statements occasionally. Experience is about the only excuse I'd admit (if you would have, if you didnt know I was bi). I can understand why bad experiences put people off certain groups, but it's still a very narrow minded viewpoint to hold I think and you're only stopping yourself from meeting someone who is potentially right up your street. I like it when someone openly points out on their profile that they're racist or homophobic, because that's pretty much what it boils down to when you exclude people outright.. just for their sexuality or skin colour alone. Racism and Homophobia arent all about beating someone up because they're different. You can have gay friends yet still be a bit homophobic, because it's a spectrum. There are differing levels of it. I'm not telling anyone who they have to sleep with, it is your body, but if you don't operate on the fact that there could be an exception to the rule, then what else is left to say..? Sexuality is invisible and ethnicity comes in so many shades. I dont know man. I think sexuality is complicated and shaming someone for their preferences isn't right. I mean it's like you said at the beginning- you don't choose who you are attracted to, and people accept that straight people aren't attracted to the same gender and gay people aren't attracted to the opposite sex. It's a bit harder for me to understand why a woman would not be attracted to a bi man as I think that is a bit disingenuous as some men seem to be secretly bi and their partners think they are straight, so would they instantly stop being attracted to that person if they knew he was bi? I doubt it and if they did it might be down to homophobia or biphobia... But still, let I don't think its right to shame people who have preferences. I'm bi but I can't see myself attracted to a transsexual person. Does that make my transphobic? I dont think so. I'm also very rarely attracted to asian men or black women... I didn't choose those preferences and I'd never say never, but I really doubt I want to be with either and I don't think I should be shamed into doing it. It's just not the right way to go about things. " So what is the best way? Just ignore things and let people get away with saying it's just preference? When it's usually based on misinformation and ignorance? - Like STI argument? - Like being less masculine argument? - Like will sleep with anyone argument? - Like can't be trusted in a straight threesome argument? I'm sorry, but if they're going to use those arguments, then they need to be countered in some way, or things continue as they are and us bisexual men are unfairly labelled all those things. I'd block and ignore quite happily, but if it rears its head in here, I'm happy countering those beliefs. They don't apply to me or all bi men and will not have them applied to me. They're insulting and rude, so forgive me for fighting fire with fire. I'm open to suggestions as to how best change opinion so bi men aren't continually mislabelled and grouped in together as a job lot of unsafe sexual predators. | |||
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"Being bisexual is one of your core values, something you cannot change about yourself, no matter how hard you may want to. Just like ethnicity. It's not like a Faith or Religion you can think about and then change or adapt over time. There are a ton of misconceptions spread about ethnicity and sexuality that stop people meeting others from different ethnicities or sexualities. Only my sexuality isn't visible. It cant be seen, heard, smelt or felt. I'm not riddled with STIs, I'm not effeminate or camp, I'm quite hard, tough and masculine and youd never know about it unless I told you. So how that can have any effect on whether a woman would sleep with me and be fobbed off with personal choice, or preference as a defence is way beyond my limited comprehension. I'm sorry, well I'm not really, not at all.. but I do like to counter stupid statements occasionally. Experience is about the only excuse I'd admit (if you would have, if you didnt know I was bi). I can understand why bad experiences put people off certain groups, but it's still a very narrow minded viewpoint to hold I think and you're only stopping yourself from meeting someone who is potentially right up your street. I like it when someone openly points out on their profile that they're racist or homophobic, because that's pretty much what it boils down to when you exclude people outright.. just for their sexuality or skin colour alone. Racism and Homophobia arent all about beating someone up because they're different. You can have gay friends yet still be a bit homophobic, because it's a spectrum. There are differing levels of it. I'm not telling anyone who they have to sleep with, it is your body, but if you don't operate on the fact that there could be an exception to the rule, then what else is left to say..? Sexuality is invisible and ethnicity comes in so many shades. I dont know man. I think sexuality is complicated and shaming someone for their preferences isn't right. I mean it's like you said at the beginning- you don't choose who you are attracted to, and people accept that straight people aren't attracted to the same gender and gay people aren't attracted to the opposite sex. It's a bit harder for me to understand why a woman would not be attracted to a bi man as I think that is a bit disingenuous as some men seem to be secretly bi and their partners think they are straight, so would they instantly stop being attracted to that person if they knew he was bi? I doubt it and if they did it might be down to homophobia or biphobia... But still, let I don't think its right to shame people who have preferences. I'm bi but I can't see myself attracted to a transsexual person. Does that make my transphobic? I dont think so. I'm also very rarely attracted to asian men or black women... I didn't choose those preferences and I'd never say never, but I really doubt I want to be with either and I don't think I should be shamed into doing it. It's just not the right way to go about things. I'm not shaming anyone. If they feel ashamed, then perhaps they should have a good inwards look to why they hold views like those. I have and it changed my mind, still continue to grow each day the more I learn about myself. I'm not singling anyone out and Mavis makes a good point about age. None of us are perfect. I'm not saying people aren't allowed to hold preference, I'm not saying those who do, are wrong uns. All I would like, is for people to question a little deeper as to why they hold certain preferences or exclude others, based on certain things. Racist and Homophobic terms are strong and imply lots of other things which again.. may or may not be true about the individual. No different than what they're doing to others though is it? Making assumptions. People use the terms racist, homophobic, ageist, etc all the time when someone says they don't want to fuck them. I use the terms about me because in some people's eyes- because I said no thank you- they think I am one. Fine by me. I do understand what you're saying about wanting people to challenge their preferences and think about the 'why'. (I have and it's still a no thanks.) But I also think we should accept their "no". They can have a think internally about their reasons but they don't have to explain or justify them to anyone else. No means no. It doesn't mean 'well I don't accept your reason as true, so you are a bad person'." I'm not asking them to justify anything to me, I dont really care. When it's being fobbed off as preference in a public forum, and excuses like ones I've listed are given as to the reason why.. Then I have to counter them. I'm not looking to make enemies or shame anyone. If I'm being called a bad person for things i don't do, then it's no wonder my language reflects that when countering those arguments. Homophobic and Racist are STRONG terms for what I'm describing(I'll hold my hands up to that), but I'm at a loss to what word describes someone as "A little bit racist, or a little bit homophob..ist? So for want of a better word, it's what I'm left with. | |||
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"Tame has never had such a popular thread,shame he's no longer here to post on it." I disagree, he often posts deliberately controversial thread topics for shits and giggles. Also, I'm sure he's watching from the shadows of another profile. | |||
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"Tame has never had such a popular thread,shame he's no longer here to post on it. I disagree, he often posts deliberately controversial thread topics for shits and giggles. Also, I'm sure he's watching from the shadows of another profile." There is no way he's not. | |||
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"Tame has never had such a popular thread,shame he's no longer here to post on it. I disagree, he often posts deliberately controversial thread topics for shits and giggles. Also, I'm sure he's watching from the shadows of another profile." Does he have a bi and a straight profile | |||
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"Tame has never had such a popular thread,shame he's no longer here to post on it. I disagree, he often posts deliberately controversial thread topics for shits and giggles. Also, I'm sure he's watching from the shadows of another profile. Does he have a bi and a straight profile " Does it matter if he does? | |||
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"Tame has never had such a popular thread,shame he's no longer here to post on it. I disagree, he often posts deliberately controversial thread topics for shits and giggles. Also, I'm sure he's watching from the shadows of another profile." Scary thought. | |||
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"Tame has never had such a popular thread,shame he's no longer here to post on it. I disagree, he often posts deliberately controversial thread topics for shits and giggles. Also, I'm sure he's watching from the shadows of another profile. Does he have a bi and a straight profile Does it matter if he does? " No , I don’t really care if am honest.. just trying to add a bit humour too the tread x | |||
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"Tame has never had such a popular thread,shame he's no longer here to post on it. I disagree, he often posts deliberately controversial thread topics for shits and giggles. Also, I'm sure he's watching from the shadows of another profile. Does he have a bi and a straight profile Does it matter if he does? " I think we have let other people's thoughts and views affect our judgment for to long. But instead of showing anger or replying to comments, best way to annoy them is silence or block them. I say each to there own if they don't like it FUCK EM | |||
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