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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"It's about time something was done about it my besocked friend"
I completely agree. I'm trying to work out if all the Bulgarian fans that left were kicked out. |
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"It's about time something was done about it my besocked friend
I completely agree. I'm trying to work out if all the Bulgarian fans that left were kicked out. "
Either way, they've gone... less abuse |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"It's about time something was done, and good to see that it is being done  "
Yes it's just so unnecessary. I'm no other place of work would you be expecting to put up with that so I'm glad they are taking a stand. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"It's about time something was done about it my besocked friend
I completely agree. I'm trying to work out if all the Bulgarian fans that left were kicked out.
Either way, they've gone... less abuse"
I hope so. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Too many times a team has played on while suffering the abuse.
If they walked off the pitch it would make a powerful statement.
Fuck those racist pricks "
Absolutelyflippinglutly! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Better late than never, the European and world footballing authorities have had there heads in the sand about this for far too long. Trifling fines and punitive punishments demonstrate how seriously they have really been taking it.
Time for massive points deductions, and teams being kicked out of tournaments. Then we'll see things change. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Intrigued now to know what happened? "
So the Bulgarian fans where making rasist chants and noises. So the players stopped the match, it then happened again. A load of the main group involved have now left. If it happens again the players will walk off. Iv not explained it well maybe someone else can help out. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Intrigued now to know what happened?
So the Bulgarian fans where making rasist chants and noises. So the players stopped the match, it then happened again. A load of the main group involved have now left. If it happens again the players will walk off. Iv not explained it well maybe someone else can help out. "
If it happens again, I think the ref might call the game off, regardless of how the England players react. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Intrigued now to know what happened?
So the Bulgarian fans where making rasist chants and noises. So the players stopped the match, it then happened again. A load of the main group involved have now left. If it happens again the players will walk off. Iv not explained it well maybe someone else can help out.
If it happens again, I think the ref might call the game off, regardless of how the England players react."
Thank you. Am I right in thinking that there is a 3 step protocol and they have implemented the first 2. So they 3ed is to abandon the game. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Intrigued now to know what happened?
So the Bulgarian fans where making rasist chants and noises. So the players stopped the match, it then happened again. A load of the main group involved have now left. If it happens again the players will walk off. Iv not explained it well maybe someone else can help out.
If it happens again, I think the ref might call the game off, regardless of how the England players react.
Thank you. Am I right in thinking that there is a 3 step protocol and they have implemented the first 2. So they 3ed is to abandon the game. "
Yes x |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Intrigued now to know what happened?
So the Bulgarian fans where making rasist chants and noises. So the players stopped the match, it then happened again. A load of the main group involved have now left. If it happens again the players will walk off. Iv not explained it well maybe someone else can help out.
If it happens again, I think the ref might call the game off, regardless of how the England players react.
Thank you. Am I right in thinking that there is a 3 step protocol and they have implemented the first 2. So they 3ed is to abandon the game.
Yes x"
Ta, so will the England teams win still count if the match is abandoned? X |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
i am glad that they are following the rules... because if UEFA do nothing about it, when england walk off the pitch at least they can say they have done it there way!
i've been on the end of it at football games.... its not nice! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Disgusting in this day and age but unfortunately it’ll never be stopped
Doesn't mean we shouldn't try. "
We should try but isn’t walking off letting them win |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Also the ones caught on camera had racist clothing and doing Nazi salutes and monkey noises.
SERIOUSLY. In 2019?!
Good fucking grief. "
I know I actually felt sick. It's disgusting. |
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"Disgusting in this day and age but unfortunately it’ll never be stopped
Doesn't mean we shouldn't try. "
And never stop trying
The commentator got it perfectly
He said "football is a meritocracy, it doesn't matter what you colour or religion or orientation is, if you can play football well, you get in the team " |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"Intrigued now to know what happened?
So the Bulgarian fans where making rasist chants and noises. So the players stopped the match, it then happened again. A load of the main group involved have now left. If it happens again the players will walk off. Iv not explained it well maybe someone else can help out.
If it happens again, I think the ref might call the game off, regardless of how the England players react.
Thank you. Am I right in thinking that there is a 3 step protocol and they have implemented the first 2. So they 3ed is to abandon the game.
Yes x
Ta, so will the England teams win still count if the match is abandoned? X"
yes... and in theory they will add a +3 onto the score... so for example it would be 7-0....
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Disgusting in this day and age but unfortunately it’ll never be stopped
Doesn't mean we shouldn't try.
We should try but isn’t walking off letting them win "
Nope! A stand has to be made. |
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By *ot-AshMan
over a year ago
London |
If the racism continues in the second half under new UEFA rules the referee can stop the match and take the players off the pitch...
Steps 1 and 2 have already taken place so if we get to Step 3 this is when the game can be abandoned....
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Disgusting in this day and age but unfortunately it’ll never be stopped
Doesn't mean we shouldn't try.
And never stop trying
The commentator got it perfectly
He said "football is a meritocracy, it doesn't matter what you colour or religion or orientation is, if you can play football well, you get in the team ""
Thanks I was trying to remember that quote. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"If the racism continues in the second half under new UEFA rules the referee can stop the match and take the players off the pitch...
Steps 1 and 2 have already taken place so if we get to Step 3 this is when the game can be abandoned....
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Cheers love. Xx |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Intrigued now to know what happened?
So the Bulgarian fans where making rasist chants and noises. So the players stopped the match, it then happened again. A load of the main group involved have now left. If it happens again the players will walk off. Iv not explained it well maybe someone else can help out.
If it happens again, I think the ref might call the game off, regardless of how the England players react.
Thank you. Am I right in thinking that there is a 3 step protocol and they have implemented the first 2. So they 3ed is to abandon the game.
Yes x
Ta, so will the England teams win still count if the match is abandoned? X
yes... and in theory they will add a +3 onto the score... so for example it would be 7-0....
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And as it should be.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Disgusting in this day and age but unfortunately it’ll never be stopped
Doesn't mean we shouldn't try.
We should try but isn’t walking off letting them win
Nope! A stand has to be made. "
Damn right it does |
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"I hope the Bulgarians are banned from playing football...Its 2019 FFS!....."
Unless that’s been put into the new rules very unlikely.
Will either be play games with no fans present or a stupid fine or a mixture of both. Neither of which have any effect |
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"Better late than never, the European and world footballing authorities have had there heads in the sand about this for far too long. Trifling fines and punitive punishments demonstrate how seriously they have really been taking it.
Time for massive points deductions, and teams being kicked out of tournaments. Then we'll see things change."
Punishing the majority for what they are doing isn't the answer for me,
Most of their own fans will be disgusted by it as well,
Fine their FA and make them locate them with the help of the police and stop them attending games games etc |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I hope the Bulgarians are banned from playing football...Its 2019 FFS!.....
Unless that’s been put into the new rules very unlikely.
Will either be play games with no fans present or a stupid fine or a mixture of both. Neither of which have any effect "
Well hopefully that will change. I think we are at a turning point. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Organised ? as one turned round to show he had no respect on the back of his top"
Possibly because then they left on mass. Not clear if they were kicked out or left themselves. |
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"Also the ones caught on camera had racist clothing and doing Nazi salutes and monkey noises.
SERIOUSLY. In 2019?!
Good fucking grief.
Need to leave us monkeys out of this want no part of it"
Hey maybe you monkeys would like this monkey... I enjoy all women! D |
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By *eeowlsMan
over a year ago
sheffield |
It’s absolutely disgraceful behaviour and should
Never happen either in a football stadium or on the streets etc
But unfortunately this behaviour will never stop whilst these scum!! Are allowed to get away with it!!
May I add well done to the players on coping with this abuse and not losing their temper as just listening to it on my TV is frustrating and riling me so much!!
respect!! To the players and backroom staff |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Nice to see a Stirling goal that will stick in some throats
3 of the 5 goals scored by the black players ... up yours Bulgarian fans"
That will show um. 
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"I think we will now see other countries and teams making the same stand. It takes one to make a stand and others follow.
KICKITOUT. "
We've got to get it out of our game at club level as well not just internationals |
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"This football stuff is rather good. "
It can be entertaining... just the writhing around on the floor when they've lost possession in a tackle it's pathetically frustrating
Look how rugby players react |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I think we will now see other countries and teams making the same stand. It takes one to make a stand and others follow.
KICKITOUT.
We've got to get it out of our game at club level as well not just internationals "
I totally agree but it's a start. |
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There is a very worrying rise in racism and intolerence all over the world at the moment. To quote Basil Fawlty "This is exactly how Nazi Germany started!". And this country is far from blameless. All right-minded people have to stand up to racism and bigotry wherever we see it. |
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By *ensualbicockMan
over a year ago
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"This football stuff is rather good.
Watch Everton, you'll soon change your mind 
ASH says that about the hammers!
See I even know the lingo! "
We've lost last 4 games and our manager faces the sack if we lose our next game, which is West Ham at the weekend |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"This football stuff is rather good.
Watch Everton, you'll soon change your mind
ASH says that about the hammers!
See I even know the lingo!
We've lost last 4 games and our manager faces the sack if we lose our next game, which is West Ham at the weekend"
Ohh well then COME ON YOU IRONS! |
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"Anyone know the odds for five or more
Not very good as we've got 6 now
What the most a major team has ever won by?
More than 6
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It does depend on what you mean by major team and who the opponents were |
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"Anyone know the odds for five or more
Not very good as we've got 6 now
What the most a major team has ever won by? "
Major international team probably Germany winning 13-0
None major team probably Australia won 31-0 |
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By *ensualbicockMan
over a year ago
liverpool wavertree picton clock |
"This football stuff is rather good.
Watch Everton, you'll soon change your mind
ASH says that about the hammers!
See I even know the lingo!
We've lost last 4 games and our manager faces the sack if we lose our next game, which is West Ham at the weekend
Ohh well then COME ON YOU IRONS! "
COYB NSNO KAGS |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Anyone know the odds for five or more
Not very good as we've got 6 now
What the most a major team has ever won by?
Major international team probably Germany winning 13-0
None major team probably Australia won 31-0"
That a lot!  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Anyone know the odds for five or more
Not very good as we've got 6 now
What the most a major team has ever won by?
More than 6
It does depend on what you mean by major team and who the opponents were"
I dunno! |
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"This football stuff is rather good.
Watch Everton, you'll soon change your mind
ASH says that about the hammers!
See I even know the lingo!
We've lost last 4 games and our manager faces the sack if we lose our next game, which is West Ham at the weekend
Ohh well then COME ON YOU IRONS!
COYB NSNO KAGS "
Shame they don't live up to that motto though |
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"Anyone know the odds for five or more
Not very good as we've got 6 now
What the most a major team has ever won by?
More than 6
It does depend on what you mean by major team and who the opponents were"
I was just wondering if anyone be missing at work tomorrow |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"This football stuff is rather good.
Watch Everton, you'll soon change your mind
ASH says that about the hammers!
See I even know the lingo!
We've lost last 4 games and our manager faces the sack if we lose our next game, which is West Ham at the weekend
Ohh well then COME ON YOU IRONS!
COYB NSNO KAGS
Shame they don't live up to that motto though"
I don't get it! I will ask Ash to explain. |
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By *ensualbicockMan
over a year ago
liverpool wavertree picton clock |
"This football stuff is rather good.
Watch Everton, you'll soon change your mind
ASH says that about the hammers!
See I even know the lingo!
We've lost last 4 games and our manager faces the sack if we lose our next game, which is West Ham at the weekend
Ohh well then COME ON YOU IRONS!
COYB NSNO KAGS
Shame they don't live up to that motto though"
I know, especially this season |
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"This football stuff is rather good.
Watch Everton, you'll soon change your mind
ASH says that about the hammers!
See I even know the lingo!
We've lost last 4 games and our manager faces the sack if we lose our next game, which is West Ham at the weekend
Ohh well then COME ON YOU IRONS!
COYB NSNO KAGS
Shame they don't live up to that motto though
I don't get it! I will ask Ash to explain. "
Coyb ... come on you boys
Nsno ... Nil Satis Nisi Optimum .. nothing but the best is good enough
Kags ... I dunno |
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By *ensualbicockMan
over a year ago
liverpool wavertree picton clock |
"This football stuff is rather good.
Watch Everton, you'll soon change your mind
ASH says that about the hammers!
See I even know the lingo!
We've lost last 4 games and our manager faces the sack if we lose our next game, which is West Ham at the weekend
Ohh well then COME ON YOU IRONS!
COYB NSNO KAGS
Shame they don't live up to that motto though
I don't get it! I will ask Ash to explain. "
COYB - Come on you blues
NSNO - Nil Satis Nisi Optimum
KAGS - Kopites are Gobshites |
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By *ot-AshMan
over a year ago
London |
I think we have now reached a turning point...
This is the closest we have ever come to having a match abandoned due to racism..
pointless fines and partial stadium closures are now no longer enough to stop these racists.... |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I think we have now reached a turning point...
This is the closest we have ever come to having a match abandoned due to racism..
pointless fines and partial stadium closures are now no longer enough to stop these racists...."
I totally agree. Thanks for explaining it all to me. Xxx |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"This football stuff is rather good.
Watch Everton, you'll soon change your mind
ASH says that about the hammers!
See I even know the lingo!
We've lost last 4 games and our manager faces the sack if we lose our next game, which is West Ham at the weekend
Ohh well then COME ON YOU IRONS!
COYB NSNO KAGS
Shame they don't live up to that motto though
I don't get it! I will ask Ash to explain.
COYB - Come on you blues
NSNO - Nil Satis Nisi Optimum
KAGS - Kopites are Gobshites "
Oh! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Thus protocol has apparently been in place for more than 10 years .. and this is the first time I've seen our stay to be implemented"
Oh really! Well I think we will see more of this now. |
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England needed to make a proper stand and walk off the pitch the second half players still getting abused so the referee should follow the correct procedures and abandoned the game so for me the pa announcement and the 6 minutes stoppage won’t make a blind bit of difference btw we as a nation need to sort our racism problems out before we start laying into other nations I really felt for Tyrone mings debut for his country and was subjected to that I take my hat off to sterling as he rammed it back at them in the best possible way sadly we will be discussing this again and again until proper action is taken like walking off or kicking the clubs or nations out off competitions |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Its not a football problem its a society problem
Walking off and all these things will not work punishing countrys and clubs for the attitudes of there fans will do nothing but push them further down that path
People dont like to be told what to do it makes them defencive if you tell them there wrong got to be cleverer than that |
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"England needed to make a proper stand and walk off the pitch the second half players still getting abused so the referee should follow the correct procedures and abandoned the game so for me the pa announcement and the 6 minutes stoppage won’t make a blind bit of difference btw we as a nation need to sort our racism problems out before we start laying into other nations I really felt for Tyrone mings debut for his country and was subjected to that I take my hat off to sterling as he rammed it back at them in the best possible way sadly we will be discussing this again and again until proper action is taken like walking off or kicking the clubs or nations out off competitions "
Walking off shows the racists they've won and that they can get a game stopped at any time.
Should be undercover plain cloths spotters in the crowd and people monitoring CCTV of the crowd and then snatch out the ring leaders and worst offenders and come down on them like a tonne of bricks with prison sentences and make them report to police stations when any game is actually taking place |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Its not a football problem its a society problem
Walking off and all these things will not work punishing countrys and clubs for the attitudes of there fans will do nothing but push them further down that path
People dont like to be told what to do it makes them defencive if you tell them there wrong got to be cleverer than that"
OK so what do you suggest, that nothing is done just because it solve it all. |
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How refreshing it is to watch the rugby World Cup to see fans mixing with opposition fans inhancing the whole experience and I wonder how many arrests there have been there of rugby fans , my bet is minimal what is it with these football hooligans |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"How refreshing it is to watch the rugby World Cup to see fans mixing with opposition fans inhancing the whole experience and I wonder how many arrests there have been there of rugby fans , my bet is minimal what is it with these football hooligans "
Do you know I was just thinking that you don't really see it in other sports. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Its not a football problem its a society problem
Walking off and all these things will not work punishing countrys and clubs for the attitudes of there fans will do nothing but push them further down that path
People dont like to be told what to do it makes them defencive if you tell them there wrong got to be cleverer than that
OK so what do you suggest, that nothing is done just because it solve it all. "
no i suggest people listen to john barnes
It will never be removed from life just like anything were people abuse another set of people all they can do is keep educating in schools until it filters thru i think its come a long way in a short amount of time when you consider 20 30 yrs ago racism was rife i remember as a kid fighting a lad who called my mate chocolate face before battering him with his 4 mates just cos he was black and he wasnt the only kid i think that social media is making it shine much more than back then tho |
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"Its not a football problem its a society problem
Walking off and all these things will not work punishing countrys and clubs for the attitudes of there fans will do nothing but push them further down that path
People dont like to be told what to do it makes them defencive if you tell them there wrong got to be cleverer than that
OK so what do you suggest, that nothing is done just because it solve it all. no i suggest people listen to john barnes
It will never be removed from life just like anything were people abuse another set of people all they can do is keep educating in schools until it filters thru i think its come a long way in a short amount of time when you consider 20 30 yrs ago racism was rife i remember as a kid fighting a lad who called my mate chocolate face before battering him with his 4 mates just cos he was black and he wasnt the only kid i think that social media is making it shine much more than back then tho "
I was listening to John Barnes on talkSPORT regarding the mendy and silva incident and John was absolutely spot on in what he said about the situation and that it wasn’t offensive |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"How refreshing it is to watch the rugby World Cup to see fans mixing with opposition fans inhancing the whole experience and I wonder how many arrests there have been there of rugby fans , my bet is minimal what is it with these football hooligans "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Its not a football problem its a society problem
Walking off and all these things will not work punishing countrys and clubs for the attitudes of there fans will do nothing but push them further down that path
People dont like to be told what to do it makes them defencive if you tell them there wrong got to be cleverer than that
OK so what do you suggest, that nothing is done just because it solve it all. no i suggest people listen to john barnes
It will never be removed from life just like anything were people abuse another set of people all they can do is keep educating in schools until it filters thru i think its come a long way in a short amount of time when you consider 20 30 yrs ago racism was rife i remember as a kid fighting a lad who called my mate chocolate face before battering him with his 4 mates just cos he was black and he wasnt the only kid i think that social media is making it shine much more than back then tho I was listening to John Barnes on talkSPORT regarding the mendy and silva incident and John was absolutely spot on in what he said about the situation and that it wasn’t offensive "
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By *omaMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
Interview with Bulgarian manager . . Did I hear him correctly?
"This has never happened before in our football, it's only now that we play England"
Does he really mean that in his mind it's England's fault that this behaviour has taken place? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Interview with Bulgarian manager . . Did I hear him correctly?
"This has never happened before in our football, it's only now that we play England"
Does he really mean that in his mind it's England's fault that this behaviour has taken place? "
Really! What an idiot. |
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By *omaMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
"Interview with Bulgarian manager . . Did I hear him correctly?
"This has never happened before in our football, it's only now that we play England"
Does he really mean that in his mind it's England's fault that this behaviour has taken place?
Really! What an idiot. "
Hopefully I did hear him wrongly . . |
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By *omaMan
over a year ago
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"Once the racism is stamped out hopefully they can sort out the lager lout minority of England fans scrapping in every country they visit "
Fair comment . . I agree but they aren't the only ones. . Russians, Dutch to name two are very guilty of this too. |
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By *ony 2016Man
over a year ago
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Although a partial closure of the ground , as punishment for previous racist abuse of opposition players , may have seemed a good idea , it probably just meant that propper Bulgarian football fans were unable to obtain tickets , The group of fans seen leaving at half-time did appear to probably be the main culprits , what I did notice was that they did not appear to have been escorted out by either police or stewards but seemed to be leaving of their own accord , what was also noticeable was that the other fans in the stand were not appearing to make eye contact with them , giving the impression they were wary of them , maybe frightened . Let us not get carried away with a " hollier-than-thou" attitude though because although this behaviour does thankfully seem to be dissapering from our football terraces if we think it is a dim and distant past in our society we are unfortunately incorrect |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Once the racism is stamped out hopefully they can sort out the lager lout minority of England fans scrapping in every country they visit
Fair comment . . I agree but they aren't the only ones. . Russians, Dutch to name two are very guilty of this too. "
For sure, many countries fans guilty of it. Just be nice to see everyone enjoy the footy and behave in other's backyards. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Anyone know the odds for five or more
Not very good as we've got 6 now
What the most a major team has ever won by?
More than 6"
29-0
Australia v American Samoa |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Interview with Bulgarian manager . . Did I hear him correctly?
"This has never happened before in our football, it's only now that we play England"
Does he really mean that in his mind it's England's fault that this behaviour has taken place? "
Never happened before... in a ground half closed due to previous racist crowd action. What a div |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Seems football and the telegraph and the mail decided to make a stand against hate this week. Long may it continue.
Nobody is ever going to hiss at spurs, or call a man u fan a "Munich" and Clive Tyldesley isn't feigning abhorrence in the commentary box he was just scared to speak out when Ron Atkinson called Marcel Desailly a lazy fucking n*****.
If this is an about face it's long overdue and I welcome it. Just seems a bit... I dunno... False.
Let's hope it's for real |
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"Seems football and the telegraph and the mail decided to make a stand against hate this week. Long may it continue.
Nobody is ever going to hiss at spurs, or call a man u fan a "Munich" and Clive Tyldesley isn't feigning abhorrence in the commentary box he was just scared to speak out when Ron Atkinson called Marcel Desailly a lazy fucking n*****.
If this is an about face it's long overdue and I welcome it. Just seems a bit... I dunno... False.
Let's hope it's for real"
Pretty much, if it was Gazza singing anti catholic songs it would be titled "Gazza looks in good health as he parties the night away with pals".
lol
End of the day they chanted racist stuff, but they were ultras, they will chant anti white stuff too, and at club level they will chant against their own race and even own town.
Its been stamped out in UK because it leads to more violence against ordinary football goers in the UK, but hasnt been stamped out in Europe. From France to eastern europe they chant mad, mad stuff at each other, because normally thats where it ends, and if fights do break out, its ultra vs ultra and rarely like people attacked in a cafe like used to happen in the UK. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Anyone know the odds for five or more
Not very good as we've got 6 now
What the most a major team has ever won by?
More than 6
29-0
Australia v American Samoa "
Oh wow, that's some win. |
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