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London war zone.

By *tarbuck007 OP Man over a year ago

up2no good

Today 113th person to be murdered in capital so far this year. When is the police going to outnumber those criminals instead of being outnumbered?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

London is far from a war zone!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

In a population measured in millions does 113 people in 9 months really equate to a war zone?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Definitely lots of places you wouldn't walk in London. Bring back RoboCop.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Definitely lots of places you wouldn't walk in London. Bring back RoboCop."

I'd buy that for a dollar

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By *tingly ByronMan over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot

I've been in several war zones.

London was not one of them, nor was it shortlisted.

When will the police outnumber the criminals? Never. It's impossible.

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By *olgateMan over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

Mainly gang and drug related, London is safe

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Definitely lots of places you wouldn't walk in London. Bring back RoboCop."

We have never had any issues with crime in London.

One night in Manchester and we had a problem.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Today 113th person to be murdered in capital so far this year. When is the police going to outnumber those criminals instead of being outnumbered? "

They cannot be in all places all at one time .

Quite a controversial comment I might add regarding the knife crime - rat eating rat

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By *hoenixAdAstraWoman over a year ago

Hiding in the shadows

Oh lord... Not this comparison again, please.

If you've ever been to a war zone, you'd know London is most definitely not one

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Definitely lots of places you wouldn't walk in London. Bring back RoboCop."

Can you tell me where these places are?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Definitely lots of places you wouldn't walk in London. Bring back RoboCop.

Can you tell me where these places are?"

Exactly!

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman over a year ago

On a mooch

Here we go again.... Deja Vue !!

I’m bored of this conversation every 10 days... it’s really simple if you don’t like London, scared of London then stay away

But stop making out we live in a war zone, it’s a ridiculous claim

Per person populous we are no different than other UK regions

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Definitely lots of places you wouldn't walk in London. Bring back RoboCop.

Can you tell me where these places are?"

..the Thames

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman over a year ago

On a mooch

"Definitely lots of places you wouldn't walk in London. Bring back RoboCop.

Can you tell me where these places are?

..the Thames"

That’s a very long river it runs through:-

Gloucestershire, Wiltshire, Oxfordshire, Berkshire, Buckinghamshire, Surrey, London, Kent, Essex

So where in particular should your Robocop be deployed

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

a basic kick to the men and women of our armed forces, who have been to a real war zones right their mind

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Definitely lots of places you wouldn't walk in London. Bring back RoboCop.

Can you tell me where these places are?

..the Thames"

Really!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Warzone? Whatever

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The only no go areas of London are certain pubs. The ones that look like restaurants and have £6 pints, £13 burgers and £20+ roast dinners.

You might get a few scuffles when they have to shut Victoria tube station at rush hour, if you stand on the left on the escalator you could get a right earful from the masses, the N171 can get a bit lively at the weekends in the early hours, but war zone?

Nah mate. Safe innit...

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By *tarbuck007 OP Man over a year ago

up2no good

"Here we go again.... Deja Vue !!

I’m bored of this conversation every 10 days... it’s really simple if you don’t like London, scared of London then stay away

But stop making out we live in a war zone, it’s a ridiculous claim

Per person populous we are no different than other UK regions "

does any one deserve to die per population?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Here we go again.... Deja Vue !!

I’m bored of this conversation every 10 days... it’s really simple if you don’t like London, scared of London then stay away

But stop making out we live in a war zone, it’s a ridiculous claim

Per person populous we are no different than other UK regions

does any one deserve to die per population? "

No of course not but you are missing the point!

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By *tarbuck007 OP Man over a year ago

up2no good

"In a population measured in millions does 113 people in 9 months really equate to a war zone? "
113 lives in one year is not enough? plus the ones that are not recorded? 1 life is more than enough

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"In a population measured in millions does 113 people in 9 months really equate to a war zone? 113 lives in one year is not enough? plus the ones that are not recorded? 1 life is more than enough "

That could be said for any life anywhere. People love to scare monger about London.

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By *orenzoVonMatterhornMan over a year ago

Lincoln

Tragic? Certainly.

Is the public services' job being made harder by cuts to manpower and funding? Definitely.

Are they doing their best despite this? Without a doubt.

Is the state of London anything close to that of a warzone? Abso... wait no, not even a little.

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman over a year ago

On a mooch

"Here we go again.... Deja Vue !!

I’m bored of this conversation every 10 days... it’s really simple if you don’t like London, scared of London then stay away

But stop making out we live in a war zone, it’s a ridiculous claim

Per person populous we are no different than other UK regions

does any one deserve to die per population? "

Of course not. However, unfortunately people are murdered all over the UK, not just London

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By *ssex_tomMan over a year ago

Chelmsford

I stay away from london. Rip off prices and filthy ..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The only no go areas of London are certain pubs. The ones that look like restaurants and have £6 pints, £13 burgers and £20+ roast dinners.

Nah mate. Safe innit...

I love that N171 bus, drops me at the bottom of my road.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I stay away from london. Rip off prices and filthy ..

No its not!

London is far cleaner than alot of city's.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The only no go areas of London are certain pubs. The ones that look like restaurants and have £6 pints, £13 burgers and £20+ roast dinners.

Nah mate. Safe innit...

I love that N171 bus, drops me at the bottom of my road.

Yep. Me too. I knew we were neighbours...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I stay away from london. Rip off prices and filthy ..

Let me introduce you to the clean and reasonably priced parts of London. I'll be your guide. You'll love it...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"In a population measured in millions does 113 people in 9 months really equate to a war zone? 113 lives in one year is not enough? plus the ones that are not recorded? 1 life is more than enough "

The ones that aren't recorded?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The only no go areas of London are certain pubs. The ones that look like restaurants and have £6 pints, £13 burgers and £20+ roast dinners.

Nah mate. Safe innit...

I love that N171 bus, drops me at the bottom of my road.

Yep. Me too. I knew we were neighbours...

Now getting on any bus in Los Angeles is a real eye opener.

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By *tarbuck007 OP Man over a year ago

up2no good

"Here we go again.... Deja Vue !!

I’m bored of this conversation every 10 days... it’s really simple if you don’t like London, scared of London then stay away

But stop making out we live in a war zone, it’s a ridiculous claim

Per person populous we are no different than other UK regions

does any one deserve to die per population?

Of course not. However, unfortunately people are murdered all over the UK, not just London "
i know but i commute to london alot and i see alot of things that are neglected by our government. Im not mentioning other cities like Bham Manchester etc. I lived in some of these places where life is not worth.

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman over a year ago

On a mooch

For those that are interested here is a link to an article on homicides in the UK (published in Feb this year) and near the bottom you’ll see the top ten worst places based on 100,000 per population. Only two London boroughs feature in that table ranking at number 7 and 10

Knife crime: Fatal stabbings at highest level since records began in 1946 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47156957

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By *icketysplitsWoman over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"The only no go areas of London are certain pubs. The ones that look like restaurants and have £6 pints, £13 burgers and £20+ roast dinners.

Nah mate. Safe innit...

I love that N171 bus, drops me at the bottom of my road.

Yep. Me too. I knew we were neighbours...

Pah! Sarf Londoners.

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By *tarbuck007 OP Man over a year ago

up2no good

"London is far from a war zone! "

it is hard to accept.

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By *ssex_tomMan over a year ago

Chelmsford

Whenever I travel I feel the tension. Out of commute hours it is a fight waiting to happen. I just don't feel safe.. it's filthy and rancid... Just my opinion

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"London is far from a war zone!

it is hard to accept. "

Because its not true!

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By *opsy RogersWoman over a year ago

London

"I stay away from london. Rip off prices and filthy ..

You should try Bristol if you think London is bad!

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By *tarbuck007 OP Man over a year ago

up2no good

"London is far from a war zone!

it is hard to accept.

Because its not true! "

perhaps you need to hang around and find out for yourself

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman over a year ago

On a mooch

"Here we go again.... Deja Vue !!

I’m bored of this conversation every 10 days... it’s really simple if you don’t like London, scared of London then stay away

But stop making out we live in a war zone, it’s a ridiculous claim

Per person populous we are no different than other UK regions

does any one deserve to die per population?

Of course not. However, unfortunately people are murdered all over the UK, not just London i know but i commute to london alot and i see alot of things that are neglected by our government. Im not mentioning other cities like Bham Manchester etc. I lived in some of these places where life is not worth."

There is neglect in lots of areas around the UK. You made a sweeping statement about London, when it is an issue country wide. There is so much wrong with this country right now, but that’s a whole different topic

As you say, you commute here and not live here. Those that do live here love this city for what it is a vibrant, multi cultural, be who you accepting city.

Visitors can come or not, personally I don’t mind either way. I feel more safe here than other places I’ve visited .... all comes back to “you know where you are, where you live”

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By *adame 2SwordsWoman over a year ago

Victoria, London

All very sad but we live in a more violent world.

No mention of domestic violence I see

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"London is far from a war zone!

it is hard to accept.

Because its not true!

perhaps you need to hang around and find out for yourself "

I live in London!

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By *tarbuck007 OP Man over a year ago

up2no good

"I stay away from london. Rip off prices and filthy ..

You should try Bristol if you think London is bad!"

I never been to Bristol hope one day

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By *isaB45Woman over a year ago

Fabville

Describing London as a War Zone is a direct echo of how Donald Trump described it.

Since Donald Trump is widely regarded as having little or no factual credibility, I'm surprised anyone would actually quote him at all.

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By *tarbuck007 OP Man over a year ago

up2no good

"London is far from a war zone!

it is hard to accept.

Because its not true!

perhaps you need to hang around and find out for yourself

I live in London! "

not in neglected places of London though

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By *icketysplitsWoman over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

I'm a single woman travelling across London alone during the day and night. I live in what many would consider to be a 'rough' area.

I have more fear of being knocked over by inconsiderate cyclists than I do of being attacked. Or, the rent a mobs that descend from outside of London to vent their spleen and get on the news.

I love our vibrant, diverse and interesting city full of vibrant, diverse and interesting people and things.

The reasons for the increase in violent crime, not just in London, are systemic. This isn't happening in a vacuum and it is not a London issue.

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By *ssex_tomMan over a year ago

Chelmsford

Londoners are ever the optimist.. the city is a cesspit.. filthy .. I get home and blow my nose.. black snot.. enough said

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By *orenzoVonMatterhornMan over a year ago

Lincoln

"London is far from a war zone!

it is hard to accept.

Because its not true!

perhaps you need to hang around and find out for yourself

I live in London!

not in neglected places of London though"

So what you actually meant to say is that the troublesome parts of London are still troublesome, and in fact do not reflect on the whole of London; much like literally anywhere in the country?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"London is far from a war zone!

it is hard to accept.

Because its not true!

perhaps you need to hang around and find out for yourself

I live in London!

not in neglected places of London though"

What are you talking about and how do you know!

Yet another sweeping generalised statement!

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By *icketysplitsWoman over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"London is far from a war zone!

it is hard to accept.

Because its not true!

perhaps you need to hang around and find out for yourself

I live in London!

not in neglected places of London though"

Why are you questioning where people live?

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman over a year ago

On a mooch

"London is far from a war zone!

it is hard to accept.

Because its not true!

perhaps you need to hang around and find out for yourself

I live in London!

not in neglected places of London though"

Wrong ! I live in the poorest borough of London and my neighbor is in the top 10 and I still feel safe walking the streets of this city

Do you know why, because 99% of the crime you mention is committed by persons already known to them

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Whenever I travel I feel the tension. Out of commute hours it is a fight waiting to happen. I just don't feel safe.. it's filthy and rancid... Just my opinion "

Considering you have claimed to have been in the military, I find this hard to read and take seriously.

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By *ssex_tomMan over a year ago

Chelmsford

Not knocking the people who live there but it's just a conurbation of small towns around a centre .. kebab houses and dodgey chicken places at best

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Describing London as a War Zone is a direct echo of how Donald Trump described it.

Since Donald Trump is widely regarded as having little or no factual credibility, I'm surprised anyone would actually quote him at all."

It’s like when he said that central Birmingham had ‘no go’ areas that police didn’t go to. I lived in a lovely apartment in the centre near the jewellery quarter for 10 years and I’m yet to find these ‘no go’ areas.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I love London

I feel totally safe there and haven't witnessed any crimes.

But I dont watch TV or read newspapers

so I'm not being swayed by other peoples opinions.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Not knocking the people who live there but it's just a conurbation of small towns around a centre .. kebab houses and dodgey chicken places at best "

You really don’t know much of London. Sounds like you had only been to one or two places and come up with that conclusion.

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By *ssex_tomMan over a year ago

Chelmsford

I don't feel safe there or travelling there

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By *icketysplitsWoman over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Not knocking the people who live there but it's just a conurbation of small towns around a centre .. kebab houses and dodgey chicken places at best

You really don’t know much of London. Sounds like you had only been to one or two places and come up with that conclusion. "

The whole world of food, fresh, authentic and available reduced to dodgey (sic) chicken and kebabs.

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By *icketysplitsWoman over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"I don't feel safe there or travelling there "

Unless you HAVE to be here do yourself (and us) a favour and protect yourself by staying away.

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By *ssex_tomMan over a year ago

Chelmsford

"I don't feel safe there or travelling there

Unless you HAVE to be here do yourself (and us) a favour and protect yourself by staying away.

Please don't express negativity.

I am only expressing my personal experience and feelings

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By *uffnmuffCouple over a year ago

London

"London is far from a war zone! "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I stay away from london. Rip off prices and filthy ..

It’s not!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Londoners are ever the optimist.. the city is a cesspit.. filthy .. I get home and blow my nose.. black snot.. enough said"

Hang on. You started a thread a few weeks ago calling London a war zone and repeatedly saying you never go there because it's not safe. And now you are talking as if you are there all the time?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Not knocking the people who live there but it's just a conurbation of small towns around a centre .. kebab houses and dodgey chicken places at best "

Haha. Sounds like you may have only been to a small part of London! I believe these places are everywhere!

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By *ssex_tomMan over a year ago

Chelmsford

I travel there when I have too but hate going there

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I travel there when I have too but hate going there "

I bloody love London! Best city in the world

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman over a year ago

On a mooch

"Not knocking the people who live there but it's just a conurbation of small towns around a centre .. kebab houses and dodgey chicken places at best

Haha. Sounds like you may have only been to a small part of London! I believe these places are everywhere!"

and a good description of some Essex towns too !

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Not knocking the people who live there but it's just a conurbation of small towns around a centre .. kebab houses and dodgey chicken places at best "

Because Chelmsford clearly has fine restaurants in every street and isn't full of kebab houses and chicken shops

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Not knocking the people who live there but it's just a conurbation of small towns around a centre .. kebab houses and dodgey chicken places at best

Haha. Sounds like you may have only been to a small part of London! I believe these places are everywhere!

and a good description of some Essex towns too ! "

For sure! I lived in Essex!

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By *ssex_tomMan over a year ago

Chelmsford

"Not knocking the people who live there but it's just a conurbation of small towns around a centre .. kebab houses and dodgey chicken places at best

Haha. Sounds like you may have only been to a small part of London! I believe these places are everywhere!

and a good description of some Essex towns too ! "

It's not a race to the bottom..

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By *hezuMan over a year ago

London

Lol dont exaggerate london is safe the murders are territory related, the middle class n above dont need to worry they make up the customer base for the sniff n 420, they aint gonna start killing customers

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Let's not feed the troll

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman over a year ago

On a mooch

"Not knocking the people who live there but it's just a conurbation of small towns around a centre .. kebab houses and dodgey chicken places at best

Haha. Sounds like you may have only been to a small part of London! I believe these places are everywhere!

and a good description of some Essex towns too !

For sure! I lived in Essex!"

Me too !

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By *icketysplitsWoman over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"I don't feel safe there or travelling there

Unless you HAVE to be here do yourself (and us) a favour and protect yourself by staying away.

Please don't express negativity.

I am only expressing my personal experience and feelings"

As am I. I'm not negative about London but I'm concerned for your wellbeing as you have expressed fear (and loathing) for London.

As the facts and the experiences of others do nothing to alleviate your fear it's something you need to address. Only you can delve deep to identify where your fears come from.

My 50 years here mean I feel safe and secure in London.

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By *ssex_tomMan over a year ago

Chelmsford

"Let's not feed the troll

Not my thread

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Not knocking the people who live there but it's just a conurbation of small towns around a centre .. kebab houses and dodgey chicken places at best

Haha. Sounds like you may have only been to a small part of London! I believe these places are everywhere!"

We even have them in Devon.

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By *icketysplitsWoman over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Lol dont exaggerate london is safe the murders are territory related, the middle class n above dont need to worry they make up the customer base for the sniff n 420, they aint gonna start killing customers

But those middle class purchases are part of the reason for the violence, not just in London. Blaming others is easy, though.

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By *icketysplitsWoman over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Not knocking the people who live there but it's just a conurbation of small towns around a centre .. kebab houses and dodgey chicken places at best

Haha. Sounds like you may have only been to a small part of London! I believe these places are everywhere!

and a good description of some Essex towns too !

For sure! I lived in Essex!

Me too ! "

Essex is the one place I have experienced unprovoked stranger violence against me.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Same folk regurgitating the same bullshit that was spouted in the last 'let's bash london' thread.

We get it, you don't like the place.

Don't fucking go there then, it's pretty straightforward.

Pop yourself off to Kabul, Baghdad, Aleppo, or similar instead. See what war zones are like.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

London was a war zone in WWII when the bombs were falling etc.

But a war zone is far from where London is.

That’s what we think anyhow.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Not knocking the people who live there but it's just a conurbation of small towns around a centre .. kebab houses and dodgey chicken places at best

Haha. Sounds like you may have only been to a small part of London! I believe these places are everywhere!

We even have them in Devon. "

I’ve lived there too!

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By *ssex_tomMan over a year ago

Chelmsford

"London was a war zone in WWII when the bombs were falling etc.

But a war zone is far from where London is.

That’s what we think anyhow.

Group think ?

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By *ssex_tomMan over a year ago

Chelmsford

"London was a war zone in WWII when the bombs were falling etc.

But a war zone is far from where London is.

That’s what we think anyhow.

Explain 113 murdered by knives

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By *tarbuck007 OP Man over a year ago

up2no good

"Describing London as a War Zone is a direct echo of how Donald Trump described it.

Since Donald Trump is widely regarded as having little or no factual credibility, I'm surprised anyone would actually quote him at all."

I hate him as much as you do. Im only talking about places i have been living, and seen it for myself

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By *orenzoVonMatterhornMan over a year ago

Lincoln

"London was a war zone in WWII when the bombs were falling etc.

But a war zone is far from where London is.

That’s what we think anyhow.

Explain 113 murdered by knives

An increase in knife crime due to strains placed on the public services.

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By *tarbuck007 OP Man over a year ago

up2no good

"London was a war zone in WWII when the bombs were falling etc.

But a war zone is far from where London is.

That’s what we think anyhow.

"
i bet it was less killings at that time then now?

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By *orenzoVonMatterhornMan over a year ago

Lincoln

"London was a war zone in WWII when the bombs were falling etc.

But a war zone is far from where London is.

That’s what we think anyhow.

i bet it was less killings at that time then now? "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If it is so safe then why does Lizzy have a palace guard..?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"London was a war zone in WWII when the bombs were falling etc.

But a war zone is far from where London is.

That’s what we think anyhow.

Explain 113 murdered by knives

Can you think of any other war zone where the potential fatalities run in to millions but actual fatalities are not even daily

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By *tarbuck007 OP Man over a year ago

up2no good

"Same folk regurgitating the same bullshit that was spouted in the last 'let's bash london' thread.

We get it, you don't like the place.

Don't fucking go there then, it's pretty straightforward.

Pop yourself off to Kabul, Baghdad, Aleppo, or similar instead. See what war zones are like. "

thats what you see on tv or get told.

having gang of kids walking with knives on them, thats just because they wanna feel that they look hard just because they are underage and do not get arrested

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I've been to a warzone and I've lived in London (recently)

Definitely not the same, you really can trust me on that.

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By *ssex_tomMan over a year ago

Chelmsford

Lots of anger from Londoners on here..

No wonder the capital is do bloody dangerous..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Just better reporting is all making things sound worse than they are id sooner live London than my old estate where there were 5 shootings 3 murders multiple stabbings

Among other serious crimes some of which iv witnessed

But nobody cares about the rest of the country its all about london as per usual

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Same folk regurgitating the same bullshit that was spouted in the last 'let's bash london' thread.

We get it, you don't like the place.

Don't fucking go there then, it's pretty straightforward.

Pop yourself off to Kabul, Baghdad, Aleppo, or similar instead. See what war zones are like.

thats what you see on tv or get told.

having gang of kids walking with knives on them, thats just because they wanna feel that they look hard just because they are underage and do not get arrested "

Have you ever been to London?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Lots of anger from Londoners on here..

No wonder the capital is do bloody dangerous..

Nope!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If it is so safe then why does Lizzy have a palace guard..?"

You think it's too keep the nutters out? Those in the know, know that it's to keep her from getting out. She's a nutter I tell you, and no way she'd be subjected to 'stop and search' so she can carry anything she wants...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Lots of anger from Londoners on here..

No wonder the capital is do bloody dangerous..

Yawn, you're like a broken record.

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By *orenzoVonMatterhornMan over a year ago

Lincoln

Noun: warzone

A region in which a war is being fought.

Noun: war

A state of armed conflict between different countries or different groups within a country.

Sooo... in the words of Percival Cox: "Wrong wrong wrong wrong. Wrong wrong wrong wrong."

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Noun: warzone

A region in which a war is being fought.

Noun: war

A state of armed conflict between different countries or different groups within a country.

Sooo... in the words of Percival Cox: "Wrong wrong wrong wrong. Wrong wrong wrong wrong."

No point knocking, they ain't listening.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Just better reporting is all making things sound worse than they are id sooner live London than my old estate where there were 5 shootings 3 murders multiple stabbings

Among other serious crimes some of which iv witnessed

But nobody cares about the rest of the country its all about london as per usual"

It’s true. I’d rather walk around London than Luton any day of the week. Everywhere has areas it’s best to stay away from! London is no different.

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By *ssex_tomMan over a year ago

Chelmsford

Londondr. Noun. A person oblivious to danger

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Today 113th person to be murdered in capital so far this year. When is the police going to outnumber those criminals instead of being outnumbered? "

Never. Will never happen. In any country. Ever.

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman over a year ago

On a mooch

"Noun: warzone

A region in which a war is being fought.

Noun: war

A state of armed conflict between different countries or different groups within a country.

Sooo... in the words of Percival Cox: "Wrong wrong wrong wrong. Wrong wrong wrong wrong."

No point knocking, they ain't listening."

They never do... same lines every week

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By *andyladMan over a year ago

Hereorthere

More a battle against knife crime I'd say

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"London was a war zone in WWII when the bombs were falling etc.

But a war zone is far from where London is.

That’s what we think anyhow.

i bet it was less killings at that time then now? "

I'm sorry, what now? Define killings, in the context of London as a World War 2 city?

Anyhow back to reality and present day per capita London has far lower murder statistics than pretty much every major American city

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By *tingly ByronMan over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot

"London is far from a war zone!

it is hard to accept. "

For you maybe.

Not for the rest of us.

We're ok with London and really do understand that it's fuck all like a war zone.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Just better reporting is all making things sound worse than they are id sooner live London than my old estate where there were 5 shootings 3 murders multiple stabbings

Among other serious crimes some of which iv witnessed

But nobody cares about the rest of the country its all about london as per usual

It’s true. I’d rather walk around London than Luton any day of the week. Everywhere has areas it’s best to stay away from! London is no different. "
course its true i seen my share of street violence and its never in the citys its always the shitholes

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman over a year ago

On a mooch

"Londondr. Noun. A person oblivious to danger "

Far from it...

- cyclists a world unto their own and follow no rules

- tourists who just stop at the top of an escalator

- individuals walking around with their faces in their phones

All of them are likely to hurt me due to their actions, rather than any crime

I walk around with my eyes open always on the lookout for danger

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By *tingly ByronMan over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot

"I don't feel safe there or travelling there

Unless you HAVE to be here do yourself (and us) a favour and protect yourself by staying away.

Please don't express negativity.

I am only expressing my personal experience and feelings"

Please don't express negativity?

My irony-ometer just blew a fuse.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Same folk regurgitating the same bullshit that was spouted in the last 'let's bash london' thread.

We get it, you don't like the place.

Don't fucking go there then, it's pretty straightforward.

Pop yourself off to Kabul, Baghdad, Aleppo, or similar instead. See what war zones are like.

thats what you see on tv or get told.

having gang of kids walking with knives on them, thats just because they wanna feel that they look hard just because they are underage and do not get arrested "

They don't get arrested?

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman over a year ago

On a mooch

"I don't feel safe there or travelling there

Unless you HAVE to be here do yourself (and us) a favour and protect yourself by staying away.

Please don't express negativity.

I am only expressing my personal experience and feelings

Please don't express negativity?

My irony-ometer just blew a fuse."

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By *unonly10Man over a year ago

liverpool

Top boy was boss though

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don't feel safe there or travelling there

Unless you HAVE to be here do yourself (and us) a favour and protect yourself by staying away.

Please don't express negativity.

I am only expressing my personal experience and feelings

Please don't express negativity?

My irony-ometer just blew a fuse."

Ohh I want one of those.

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By *asilForty77Man over a year ago

a hundred and sixty of us living in a small shoebox in the middle of the road

"Definitely lots of places you wouldn't walk in London. Bring back RoboCop.

Can you tell me where these places are?"

Broadwater farm

Pepys estate

Thamesmead

Slumstead

Mare street

The list is endless

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By *ssex_tomMan over a year ago

Chelmsford

"Same folk regurgitating the same bullshit that was spouted in the last 'let's bash london' thread.

We get it, you don't like the place.

Don't fucking go there then, it's pretty straightforward.

Pop yourself off to Kabul, Baghdad, Aleppo, or similar instead. See what war zones are like.

thats what you see on tv or get told.

having gang of kids walking with knives on them, thats just because they wanna feel that they look hard just because they are underage and do not get arrested

They don't get arrested? "

Correct.. they do not get arrested..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Definitely lots of places you wouldn't walk in London. Bring back RoboCop.

Can you tell me where these places are?

Broadwater farm

Pepys estate

Thamesmead

Slumstead

Mare street

The list is endless"

I lived on mare street for a year and even the day of the riots a few years ago I didn't feel in danger. Yes I was, at times wary that I could be the victim of crime but I don't think I ever felt in danger of death other than when on my bike. I has more cyclists and pedestrians killed in the vicinity of my flat than there were murders

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By *ssex_tomMan over a year ago

Chelmsford

"Definitely lots of places you wouldn't walk in London. Bring back RoboCop.

Can you tell me where these places are?

Broadwater farm

Pepys estate

Thamesmead

Slumstead

Mare street

The list is endless

Did you say riots..

Very safe then..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Definitely lots of places you wouldn't walk in London. Bring back RoboCop.

Can you tell me where these places are?

Broadwater farm

Pepys estate

Thamesmead

Slumstead

Mare street

The list is endless"

I live in London but have no idea where these places are.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Definitely lots of places you wouldn't walk in London. Bring back RoboCop.

Can you tell me where these places are?

Broadwater farm

Pepys estate

Thamesmead

Slumstead

Mare street

The list is endless

Did you say riots..

Very safe then.. "

There were co-ordinated riots all over the country a few years back. Not just in London.

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By *tarbuck007 OP Man over a year ago

up2no good

"Just better reporting is all making things sound worse than they are id sooner live London than my old estate where there were 5 shootings 3 murders multiple stabbings

Among other serious crimes some of which iv witnessed

But nobody cares about the rest of the country its all about london as per usual

It’s true. I’d rather walk around London than Luton any day of the week. Everywhere has areas it’s best to stay away from! London is no different. course its true i seen my share of street violence and its never in the citys its always the shitholes"

try walk through lewsey farm or marsh farm at night lived in luton as well

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By *unonly10Man over a year ago

liverpool

"Definitely lots of places you wouldn't walk in London. Bring back RoboCop.

I'd buy that for a dollar

Bitches leave.

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By *ittleAcornMan over a year ago

visiting the beach

Just out of interest I had a Google.

In a similar period, about 1500 people were killed or seriously injured on the streets of the capitol.

With obviously similar statistics elsewhere. I wonder that the media are not making a furore about this, and never have.

Knife crime is just a blip caused by poor decisions (reducing police funding, youth services etc.)

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Definitely lots of places you wouldn't walk in London. Bring back RoboCop.

Can you tell me where these places are?

Broadwater farm

Pepys estate

Thamesmead

Slumstead

Mare street

The list is endless

I live in London but have no idea where these places are. "

I think it's a Google search for most deprived areas.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Definitely lots of places you wouldn't walk in London. Bring back RoboCop.

Can you tell me where these places are?

Broadwater farm

Pepys estate

Thamesmead

Slumstead

Mare street

The list is endless

I live in London but have no idea where these places are.

I think it's a Google search for most deprived areas. "

Probably why I don’t know them. I’m in a fortunate position to choose where I rent. I do feel sorry for the people that have little choice in that.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Definitely lots of places you wouldn't walk in London. Bring back RoboCop.

Can you tell me where these places are?

Broadwater farm

Pepys estate

Thamesmead

Slumstead

Mare street

The list is endless

Did you say riots..

Very safe then.. "

I think taking one spell of civil disobedience across London and sireading across the country, several years ago and in very clear response to a police shooting and where most damage was to property rather than physical injury as an argument that London is a war zone you are clutching at straws

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Just better reporting is all making things sound worse than they are id sooner live London than my old estate where there were 5 shootings 3 murders multiple stabbings

Among other serious crimes some of which iv witnessed

But nobody cares about the rest of the country its all about london as per usual

try walk through lewsey farm or marsh farm at night lived in luton as well

No thanks! Been very close to Lewsey Farm. Which one is near the hospital?

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By *ENGUYMan over a year ago

Hull

OP. You talk about London as being a War Zone.

I'd accept it more if you actually lived in or around the city.

But, your profile says you're in the West Midlands. It's hardly London, is it?

There are parts of the West Midlands, even Birmingham city centre I wouldn't venture into, so why not have a pop at your region first before having a go about a place you don't even live in.

I've been to London countless times, and never seen or had problems.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Definitely lots of places you wouldn't walk in London. Bring back RoboCop.

Can you tell me where these places are?

Broadwater farm

Pepys estate

Thamesmead

Slumstead

Mare street

The list is endless"

Absolute shite. Coming from Plumstead originally, owning my first flat on Thamesmead and knowing Pepys Estate I can assure you I would, and still do, happily walk around those areas at night. London is perfectly safe for normal people going about their normal business.

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By *os19Man over a year ago

Edmonton

"Definitely lots of places you wouldn't walk in London. Bring back RoboCop.

Can you tell me where these places are?

Broadwater farm

Pepys estate

Thamesmead

Slumstead

Mare street

The list is endless"
. Broadwater farm in Tottenham is changing and for the better with the regeneration off Tottenham with a new stadium the whole area is getting a face lift.Sadly my area Edmonton down the road from Tottenham is going down hill in fact it pains me to say it it’s no longer called Edmonton but Stabmonton

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"OP. You talk about London as being a War Zone.

I'd accept it more if you actually lived in or around the city.

But, your profile says you're in the West Midlands. It's hardly London, is it?

There are parts of the West Midlands, even Birmingham city centre I wouldn't venture into, so why not have a pop at your region first before having a go about a place you don't even live in.

I've been to London countless times, and never seen or had problems."

I lived in the centre of Brum and loved my 10 years there. Never any problems. I was near the jewellery quarter.

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By *tarbuck007 OP Man over a year ago

up2no good

"OP. You talk about London as being a War Zone.

I'd accept it more if you actually lived in or around the city.

But, your profile says you're in the West Midlands. It's hardly London, is it?

There are parts of the West Midlands, even Birmingham city centre I wouldn't venture into, so why not have a pop at your region first before having a go about a place you don't even live in.

I've been to London countless times, and never seen or had problems."

I lived in London now im based in Midlands. At present I commute to London. You might think I hate London you are wrong,! but I do want a safe London or even Bham Manchester etc...or the whole world.

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By *opsy RogersWoman over a year ago

London

"I stay away from london. Rip off prices and filthy ..

You should try Bristol if you think London is bad!

I never been to Bristol hope one day"

It’s dirty, neglected and like London and every other city in the UK, has some unsavoury, dangerous places to go, I love it but you’d probably be too scared.

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By *opsy RogersWoman over a year ago

London

"I don't feel safe there or travelling there "

Luton at 2pm on a sunny summers day was the most scared I’ve ever been and I was shopping in the city centre.

That place creeps me out.

London is awesome.

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By *emini ManMan over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

Oh gawd who took the lid off this box again?

If London is a war zone my name is Daisy and I spend my weekends munching grass in a field and producing milk!!

Yes London has areas where you need to be wary, but so does every other major town in the country - Chelmsford and whatever part of the West Midlands the OP comes from included!!

London is one of the most beautiful, diverse, interesting and so much more cities there is - where you can spend a day and not spend a penny (and no I don't mean not go to the loo!!).

It's as safe as anywhere and a lot safer than many other cities.

Let me ask you this OP is New York a war zone? Because if London is, then New York is a raging battlefield by comparison - 2018 figures suggest 3.5 murders per 100,000 people compared to 1.5 per 100,000 in London!!

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By *tarbuck007 OP Man over a year ago

up2no good

"I stay away from london. Rip off prices and filthy ..

You should try Bristol if you think London is bad!

I never been to Bristol hope one day

It’s dirty, neglected and like London and every other city in the UK, has some unsavoury, dangerous places to go, I love it but you’d probably be too scared."

problem is the government has cut so many foundings for youths. The lack of youth clubs, unaffordable leisure centres etc. Have pushed youths take on knives, drugs guns etc.

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By *opsy RogersWoman over a year ago

London

"I stay away from london. Rip off prices and filthy ..

You should try Bristol if you think London is bad!

I never been to Bristol hope one day

It’s dirty, neglected and like London and every other city in the UK, has some unsavoury, dangerous places to go, I love it but you’d probably be too scared.

problem is the government has cut so many foundings for youths. The lack of youth clubs, unaffordable leisure centres etc. Have pushed youths take on knives, drugs guns etc. "

Put the Daily Fail down. It will only end in tears.

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By *acey_RedWoman over a year ago

Liverpool

In Liverpool we have sadly had a lot of shootings and stabbings. Unfortunately as with any deprived area we have gang problems. I don't think more police alone is the right answer. We have a youth crisis in this country for starters so we need to find ways to engage our teenager and direct their energy into something worthwhile. There is also the financial issues of coming from deprived families with no money and seeing that their own futures are likely to be the same where no matter how much they work they will still be struggling and poor. It makes it so easy for our youngsters to be tempted into gangs as drug runners or small time drug dealers as it becomes the only way they can see to actually make money. We need a liveable minimum wage and better paying job opportunities to give them any hope of another option.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Oh gawd who took the lid off this box again?

If London is a war zone my name is Daisy and I spend my weekends munching grass in a field and producing milk!!

Yes London has areas where you need to be wary, but so does every other major town in the country - Chelmsford and whatever part of the West Midlands the OP comes from included!!

London is one of the most beautiful, diverse, interesting and so much more cities there is - where you can spend a day and not spend a penny (and no I don't mean not go to the loo!!).

It's as safe as anywhere and a lot safer than many other cities.

Agreed. I’m in New York now and too scared to leave my hotel after reading that!! (Yeah, right.

)

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By *tarbuck007 OP Man over a year ago

up2no good

"Oh gawd who took the lid off this box again?

If London is a war zone my name is Daisy and I spend my weekends munching grass in a field and producing milk!!

Yes London has areas where you need to be wary, but so does every other major town in the country - Chelmsford and whatever part of the West Midlands the OP comes from included!!

London is one of the most beautiful, diverse, interesting and so much more cities there is - where you can spend a day and not spend a penny (and no I don't mean not go to the loo!!).

It's as safe as anywhere and a lot safer than many other cities.

Agreed. I’m in New York now and too scared to leave my hotel after reading that!! (Yeah, right.

) "

Ask that to the victims whos been effected and what it has been done to provent any further knife crimes instead it keeps going higher

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By *ENGUYMan over a year ago

Hull

It's not just political issues or reasons citing lack of funding, resources etc.

Whatever happened to the basic concepts of everyday parenting and instilling values of Respect for others, plus what's right and wrong?

We seem to have had a generation who don't have that, and without core parental behavioural skills to ensure their offspring don't resort into crime.

When I grew up through childhood, my parents brought me up to the best they could afford.

They weren't rich by any means so we did without, compared to our peers in other families. But we had a grounding in life, plus what it could throw at us but my brother and I didn't resort to crime.

Those principles seem to be so lacking these days.

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By *acey_RedWoman over a year ago

Liverpool

"It's not just political issues or reasons citing lack of funding, resources etc.

Whatever happened to the basic concepts of everyday parenting and instilling values of Respect for others, plus what's right and wrong?

We seem to have had a generation who don't have that, and without core parental behavioural skills to ensure their offspring don't resort into crime.

When I grew up through childhood, my parents brought me up to the best they could afford.

They weren't rich by any means so we did without, compared to our peers in other families. But we had a grounding in life, plus what it could throw at us but my brother and I didn't resort to crime.

Those principles seem to be so lacking these days."

And you think that hasn't happened for political reasons?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Oh gawd who took the lid off this box again?

If London is a war zone my name is Daisy and I spend my weekends munching grass in a field and producing milk!!

Yes London has areas where you need to be wary, but so does every other major town in the country - Chelmsford and whatever part of the West Midlands the OP comes from included!!

London is one of the most beautiful, diverse, interesting and so much more cities there is - where you can spend a day and not spend a penny (and no I don't mean not go to the loo!!).

It's as safe as anywhere and a lot safer than many other cities.

Agreed. I’m in New York now and too scared to leave my hotel after reading that!! (Yeah, right.

)

Ask that to the victims whos been effected and what it has been done to provent any further knife crimes instead it keeps going higher"

Tbh, most of the victims in gang related attack’s are not people I would usually meet or hang out with. We all make choices in life.

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By *tarbuck007 OP Man over a year ago

up2no good

"It's not just political issues or reasons citing lack of funding, resources etc.

Whatever happened to the basic concepts of everyday parenting and instilling values of Respect for others, plus what's right and wrong?

We seem to have had a generation who don't have that, and without core parental behavioural skills to ensure their offspring don't resort into crime.

When I grew up through childhood, my parents brought me up to the best they could afford.

They weren't rich by any means so we did without, compared to our peers in other families. But we had a grounding in life, plus what it could throw at us but my brother and I didn't resort to crime.

Those principles seem to be so lacking these days."

Half of these crimes have been reported before becoming fatal, Have been ignored by the authorities this is the main reason why the government needs to pull out their finger out of their asses.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Oh gawd who took the lid off this box again?

If London is a war zone my name is Daisy and I spend my weekends munching grass in a field and producing milk!!

Yes London has areas where you need to be wary, but so does every other major town in the country - Chelmsford and whatever part of the West Midlands the OP comes from included!!

London is one of the most beautiful, diverse, interesting and so much more cities there is - where you can spend a day and not spend a penny (and no I don't mean not go to the loo!!).

It's as safe as anywhere and a lot safer than many other cities.

Agreed. I’m in New York now and too scared to leave my hotel after reading that!! (Yeah, right.

)

Ask that to the victims whos been effected and what it has been done to provent any further knife crimes instead it keeps going higher

Tbh, most of the victims in gang related attack’s are not people I would usually meet or hang out with. We all make choices in life. "
for some its not a choice

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By *emini ManMan over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

"Let me ask you this OP is New York a war zone? Because if London is, then New York is a raging battlefield by comparison - 2018 figures suggest 3.5 murders per 100,000 people compared to 1.5 per 100,000 in London!!

Agreed. I’m in New York now and too scared to leave my hotel after reading that!! (Yeah, right.

)

Ask that to the victims whos been effected and what it has been done to provent any further knife crimes instead it keeps going higher"

I would think if you were able to ask the victims of knife crime if they had been living in a war zone the vast majority would answer no.

No-one is denying that knife crime is a terrible thing and every effort should be made to stamp it out - but the sweeping generalisations about war zones and London being unsafe that you and others have made are frankly ridiculous.

I've spent time in London virtually all of my life and never once have I felt unsafe through no fault of my own and I've spent time in some of the rougher areas too.

I'll happily walk through London at any time of day or night and not feel threatened, yes there may be areas I'd avoid but as I said further up that can be said of any major town or city of this country.

London is a wonderful diverse city and rightly a major tourist attraction for people from all over the world because of it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Oh gawd who took the lid off this box again?

If London is a war zone my name is Daisy and I spend my weekends munching grass in a field and producing milk!!

Yes London has areas where you need to be wary, but so does every other major town in the country - Chelmsford and whatever part of the West Midlands the OP comes from included!!

London is one of the most beautiful, diverse, interesting and so much more cities there is - where you can spend a day and not spend a penny (and no I don't mean not go to the loo!!).

It's as safe as anywhere and a lot safer than many other cities.

Agreed. I’m in New York now and too scared to leave my hotel after reading that!! (Yeah, right.

)

Ask that to the victims whos been effected and what it has been done to provent any further knife crimes instead it keeps going higher

Tbh, most of the victims in gang related attack’s are not people I would usually meet or hang out with. We all make choices in life. for some its not a choice "

No, a life of crime can be the only way for some. Many do choose that way though.

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By *tarbuck007 OP Man over a year ago

up2no good

"Oh gawd who took the lid off this box again?

If London is a war zone my name is Daisy and I spend my weekends munching grass in a field and producing milk!!

Yes London has areas where you need to be wary, but so does every other major town in the country - Chelmsford and whatever part of the West Midlands the OP comes from included!!

London is one of the most beautiful, diverse, interesting and so much more cities there is - where you can spend a day and not spend a penny (and no I don't mean not go to the loo!!).

It's as safe as anywhere and a lot safer than many other cities.

Agreed. I’m in New York now and too scared to leave my hotel after reading that!! (Yeah, right.

)

Ask that to the victims whos been effected and what it has been done to provent any further knife crimes instead it keeps going higher

Tbh, most of the victims in gang related attack’s are not people I would usually meet or hang out with. We all make choices in life. "

Problem is that they are using youths, Brain washing them etc.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Oh gawd who took the lid off this box again?

If London is a war zone my name is Daisy and I spend my weekends munching grass in a field and producing milk!!

Yes London has areas where you need to be wary, but so does every other major town in the country - Chelmsford and whatever part of the West Midlands the OP comes from included!!

London is one of the most beautiful, diverse, interesting and so much more cities there is - where you can spend a day and not spend a penny (and no I don't mean not go to the loo!!).

It's as safe as anywhere and a lot safer than many other cities.

Agreed. I’m in New York now and too scared to leave my hotel after reading that!! (Yeah, right.

)

Ask that to the victims whos been effected and what it has been done to provent any further knife crimes instead it keeps going higher

Tbh, most of the victims in gang related attack’s are not people I would usually meet or hang out with. We all make choices in life.

Problem is that they are using youths, Brain washing them etc."

Who are?

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By *ENGUYMan over a year ago

Hull

"It's not just political issues or reasons citing lack of funding, resources etc.

Whatever happened to the basic concepts of everyday parenting and instilling values of Respect for others, plus what's right and wrong?

We seem to have had a generation who don't have that, and without core parental behavioural skills to ensure their offspring don't resort into crime.

When I grew up through childhood, my parents brought me up to the best they could afford.

They weren't rich by any means so we did without, compared to our peers in other families. But we had a grounding in life, plus what it could throw at us but my brother and I didn't resort to crime.

Those principles seem to be so lacking these days.

And you think that hasn't happened for political reasons?"

Look at my opening line; it's not just down to Political reasons!

However, regardless of Politics and all the ramifications within that, the lack of family values, upbringing, Respect for others & their property etc, seems lacking.

Everything I have wanted in life has been earned; not handed to them on a plate as some people seem to think it should be.

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By *tarbuck007 OP Man over a year ago

up2no good

"Oh gawd who took the lid off this box again?

If London is a war zone my name is Daisy and I spend my weekends munching grass in a field and producing milk!!

Yes London has areas where you need to be wary, but so does every other major town in the country - Chelmsford and whatever part of the West Midlands the OP comes from included!!

London is one of the most beautiful, diverse, interesting and so much more cities there is - where you can spend a day and not spend a penny (and no I don't mean not go to the loo!!).

It's as safe as anywhere and a lot safer than many other cities.

Agreed. I’m in New York now and too scared to leave my hotel after reading that!! (Yeah, right.

)

Ask that to the victims whos been effected and what it has been done to provent any further knife crimes instead it keeps going higher

Tbh, most of the victims in gang related attack’s are not people I would usually meet or hang out with. We all make choices in life.

Problem is that they are using youths, Brain washing them etc.

Who are?"

drug dealers etc

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Oh gawd who took the lid off this box again?

If London is a war zone my name is Daisy and I spend my weekends munching grass in a field and producing milk!!

Yes London has areas where you need to be wary, but so does every other major town in the country - Chelmsford and whatever part of the West Midlands the OP comes from included!!

London is one of the most beautiful, diverse, interesting and so much more cities there is - where you can spend a day and not spend a penny (and no I don't mean not go to the loo!!).

It's as safe as anywhere and a lot safer than many other cities.

Agreed. I’m in New York now and too scared to leave my hotel after reading that!! (Yeah, right.

)

Ask that to the victims whos been effected and what it has been done to provent any further knife crimes instead it keeps going higher

Tbh, most of the victims in gang related attack’s are not people I would usually meet or hang out with. We all make choices in life.

Problem is that they are using youths, Brain washing them etc.

Who are?

drug dealers etc"

That’s not exactly a new thing though.

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By *acey_RedWoman over a year ago

Liverpool

"Oh gawd who took the lid off this box again?

If London is a war zone my name is Daisy and I spend my weekends munching grass in a field and producing milk!!

Yes London has areas where you need to be wary, but so does every other major town in the country - Chelmsford and whatever part of the West Midlands the OP comes from included!!

London is one of the most beautiful, diverse, interesting and so much more cities there is - where you can spend a day and not spend a penny (and no I don't mean not go to the loo!!).

It's as safe as anywhere and a lot safer than many other cities.

Agreed. I’m in New York now and too scared to leave my hotel after reading that!! (Yeah, right.

)

Ask that to the victims whos been effected and what it has been done to provent any further knife crimes instead it keeps going higher

Tbh, most of the victims in gang related attack’s are not people I would usually meet or hang out with. We all make choices in life. for some its not a choice "

Agreed. People usually only associate grooming with sexual exploitation but criminal exploitation is an issue too and many young people are groomed by these gangs.

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By *ust RachelTV/TS over a year ago

Horsham

Wait till the catch up with Liverpool crime stats, they have gone from using knives to guns.

Anything from shotguns to pistols and even the odd SMG, that's when the streets become a war zone.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Like any city, you can find trouble if you look for it

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By *acey_RedWoman over a year ago

Liverpool

"It's not just political issues or reasons citing lack of funding, resources etc.

Whatever happened to the basic concepts of everyday parenting and instilling values of Respect for others, plus what's right and wrong?

We seem to have had a generation who don't have that, and without core parental behavioural skills to ensure their offspring don't resort into crime.

When I grew up through childhood, my parents brought me up to the best they could afford.

They weren't rich by any means so we did without, compared to our peers in other families. But we had a grounding in life, plus what it could throw at us but my brother and I didn't resort to crime.

Those principles seem to be so lacking these days.

And you think that hasn't happened for political reasons?

Look at my opening line; it's not just down to Political reasons!

However, regardless of Politics and all the ramifications within that, the lack of family values, upbringing, Respect for others & their property etc, seems lacking.

Everything I have wanted in life has been earned; not handed to them on a plate as some people seem to think it should be."

I disagree. I went to a school on the edge of a council estate 11 years ago and I would say one of the problems for these communities is that they are acutely aware they live in a society that has next to no respect for them and treats them like scum for being poor. They also know that no matter how hard they work they will likely never escape their situation unless they're extremely lucky.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Ok a little insight into gang life folks so for street gangs theres normally a head honcho in his late 20s or 30 normally been brought up in the life as a child thru family or friends he will have recruiters usually late teens early 20 he uses to recruit 12 13 yr old kids sometimes younger by flashing cash these kids usually from poor familys to get them to do small favours for cash daring them and using the rush to get them more and more addicted to the cash and the rush of a chase plus convincing them there bad arse hard boys unstoppable

They will then use them for all sorts of crimes from burglarys to drug running and dealing

Simply due to the fact there under 18 so the amount of chances they get from the law is almost limitless and if they do end up inside its baby jail its like camp

Some will go on to be the next recruiters some will change there life and settle down some will do serious time and some will be killed

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Ok a little insight into gang life folks so for street gangs theres normally a head honcho in his late 20s or 30 normally been brought up in the life as a child thru family or friends he will have recruiters usually late teens early 20 he uses to recruit 12 13 yr old kids sometimes younger by flashing cash these kids usually from poor familys to get them to do small favours for cash daring them and using the rush to get them more and more addicted to the cash and the rush of a chase plus convincing them there bad arse hard boys unstoppable

They will then use them for all sorts of crimes from burglarys to drug running and dealing

Simply due to the fact there under 18 so the amount of chances they get from the law is almost limitless and if they do end up inside its baby jail its like camp

Some will go on to be the next recruiters some will change there life and settle down some will do serious time and some will be killed

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that happens all thru the country

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By *acey_RedWoman over a year ago

Liverpool

"Wait till the catch up with Liverpool crime stats, they have gone from using knives to guns.

Anything from shotguns to pistols and even the odd SMG, that's when the streets become a war zone."

If our streets are considered a warzone I'll booked my next holiday to Yemen.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Blimey this got out of hand while I was away...

Who wants a tour of London? For free... You pay for own food and drink. Won't need more than about £40...

Let's see who gets stabbed.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Blimey this got out of hand while I was away...

Who wants a tour of London? For free... You pay for own food and drink. Won't need more than about £40...

Let's see who gets stabbed.

Got to take them on the N171 bus for the full experience.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Blimey this got out of hand while I was away...

Who wants a tour of London? For free... You pay for own food and drink. Won't need more than about £40...

Let's see who gets stabbed.

Got to take them on the N171 bus for the full experience. "

Ha! Yes! That'll be as loud and scary as it gets. Be fair I like the impromptu karaoke sessions that happen on that bus. Even tho it means I have to stop reading my book...

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

Not this again

When I was in my early 20's I used to work in London, different areas, at night, I was never stabbed, accosted, assaulted, harrassed etc. Nobody tried to blow me up, I was never dismembered, I managed to walk through the streets, go on the tubes and travel safely.

I'm fairly sure if I was in a war zone I wouldn't have come out of there intact, mentally or physically.

If you don't like London, don't go there. There are plenty of other places in the country to go that won't make you pee your pants in fear.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Blimey this got out of hand while I was away...

Who wants a tour of London? For free... You pay for own food and drink. Won't need more than about £40...

Let's see who gets stabbed.

Got to take them on the N171 bus for the full experience.

Ha! Yes! That'll be as loud and scary as it gets. Be fair I like the impromptu karaoke sessions that happen on that bus. Even tho it means I have to stop reading my book... "

Try doing the N9 bus from charring cross back to Heathrow t5 as my mate use to live in a village near t5. It took forever and we fell asleep most of the journey. I nearly fell into the aisle mainly times

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Blimey this got out of hand while I was away...

Who wants a tour of London? For free... You pay for own food and drink. Won't need more than about £40...

Let's see who gets stabbed.

Got to take them on the N171 bus for the full experience.

Ha! Yes! That'll be as loud and scary as it gets. Be fair I like the impromptu karaoke sessions that happen on that bus. Even tho it means I have to stop reading my book...

Blimey, now that is a long bus journey. If we're talking TFL I mean...

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By *tingly ByronMan over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot

I'm in London right now.

There's no gunfire.

I'll issue more safety bulletins throughout the day...

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By *ssex_tomMan over a year ago

Chelmsford

Sadly the 113 is now 115

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Got to take them on the N171 bus for the full experience. "

Don’t be dissing my ends! I mean apart from the north of the river bit. Shady place that.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Maybe we need to address why kids as young as 9 need to carry knives..

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By *ittleAcornMan over a year ago

visiting the beach

"Maybe we need to address why kids as young as 9 need to carry knives..

We certainly do, but it's not a uniquely London issue.

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By *tingly ByronMan over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot

"Sadly the 113 is now 115"

And if it wasn't sensationalized into headlines to sell newspapers you'd think it was none.......

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By *hoenixAdAstraWoman over a year ago

Hiding in the shadows

"I'm in London right now.

There's no gunfire.

I'll issue more safety bulletins throughout the day..."

No Kevlar required then?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Punishment is the only way, pre prevention doesn’t work. I could abolish knife and gun crime within 3 years.

If your caught carrying a knife you will be detained for 10 years in a workcamp,

If you injure or kill using a knife you will be executed, no ifs, no buts.

Parents of minors carrying knives will have all assets seized and placed in work camps for 3 years

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman over a year ago

On a mooch

"I'm in London right now.

There's no gunfire.

I'll issue more safety bulletins throughout the day..."

Just the hustle and bustle of normal city life

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

And it's over.

Look forward to the next instalment of 'let's bash london'

Not!

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman over a year ago

On a mooch

This morning there was squeezing, rumbling, roaring, hot liquid, obstacles everywhere and the list goes on but hey I survived the normal journey to the office and now sat at my desk enjoying the view of this glorious city

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