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Rugby World Cup Thread #2
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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As you were...
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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago
Manchester (he/him) |
This is going to be awesome! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Hon the Boks! |
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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago
Manchester (he/him) |
"Love the New Zealand anthem  "
It's quite long isn't it... |
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I'm a neutral but I will go with South Africa, just got a feeling they will triumph |
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"Love the New Zealand anthem
It's quite long isn't it... "
Yeah, but what about the New Zealand anthem  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Mon the Scots! ?????????????? |
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OMG I felt the passion in that Haka, they meant that one  |
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"Love the New Zealand anthem
It's quite long isn't it...
Yeah, but what about the New Zealand anthem "
That’s why you have a surf board covering it |
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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago
Manchester (he/him) |
"OMG I felt the passion in that Haka, they meant that one "
I think the SA fans chanting through it fired them up more! |
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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago
Manchester (he/him) |
"Love the New Zealand anthem
It's quite long isn't it...
Yeah, but what about the New Zealand anthem "
Boom Boom!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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This game will be immense |
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"Love the New Zealand anthem
It's quite long isn't it...
Yeah, but what about the New Zealand anthem
Boom Boom!! "
Badum tish
I thank you |
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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago
Manchester (he/him) |
NZ looking scrappy and the boks are looking powerful so far |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Some good games so far |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Love the Haka"
The highlight of the Haka was the Irish fans belting out Olé Olé |
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By *ackdd72Man
over a year ago
the valleys |
Watch some of the games this morning and just have to admire the players respect for the refs football players should be watching and taking notes |
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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago
Manchester (he/him) |
I thought for 20 mins the ABs were in trouble, now it looks like they were just rolling with it and playing rope a dope!
6 minutes! Devastating |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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What a team. The execution is at a level so far above most of world rugby |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Pob Lwc i Gymru yn Saipan 2019 |
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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago
Manchester (he/him) |
"Boks looking a bit deflated .."
Agreed, it looked like they poured everything into that first 1/4 and were struggling after getting punished.
A couple of silly mistakes creeping in for the boks |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Boks looking a bit deflated .."
Not surprised - 20 minutes of strangling the All Blacks and only 3 points to show for it then unpicked twice |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Hopefully this is the bounce back for Boks |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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This could be interesting now |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
nice try.. although that south african who incertcepted the ball was at least 15 yds offside.... |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
one nice thing one bad thing...
1) another pet hate of mine... changing the entire front row in one go.... just annoys me
2) that south african winger has the beating of the new zealand back line.... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Madness here.... come on NZ.... |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Classic |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Cracking game |
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Aww popped it right over there drop goals seem to be a lost art these days |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Wooooohooooooohoooooo |
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So what do we think about the NZ and SA teams now, having watched the match? Meet again in the final? Can anyone else match them? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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What a savage game that was
I need a nap. |
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"So what do we think about the NZ and SA teams now, having watched the match? Meet again in the final? Can anyone else match them? "
NZ have the edge for me and not just because they have won that first game, they have the power and speed and creativity, and yes I think that was the warm up for the final game, I can’t see anyone beating them  ( she said secretly hoping the Chariots will ride to victory  ) |
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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago
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"So what do we think about the NZ and SA teams now, having watched the match? Meet again in the final? Can anyone else match them? "
It's hard to say without seeing the other teams. I do think that SA for moments looked devastating and that rush defence is vicious but I don't think they look unbeatable by other good teams. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Roll on 8.45 tomorrow morning |
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"So what do we think about the NZ and SA teams now, having watched the match? Meet again in the final? Can anyone else match them?
NZ have the edge for me and not just because they have won that first game, they have the power and speed and creativity, and yes I think that was the warm up for the final game, I can’t see anyone beating them ( she said secretly hoping the Chariots will ride to victory ) "
Fingers crossed! |
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Like I said, a power game wouldnt work against NewZealand. It limits Englands ability to win the world cup, if they come up against NZ they are out.
South Africa have a better power game than England and they were the ones limping off not NZ.
For the rest of the teams not looking to play a power game, there is hope, they made technical errors. If you can absorb the phases you can force an error. They are a bit slow on their toes, probably because they trained heavily for power plays.
It's no wonder Ireland didnt get drawn into a power game when they played England in the run up, they probably assessed their likelihood of winning the world cup that way as zero, then used wales to hone their technical game. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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missed the games this morning damnit |
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"Roll on 8.45 tomorrow morning "
Oh yes
(Scottish flag emoji thingie) |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
bearing in mind the scotland ireland group crosses with the new zealand south africa group at the quarter finals.....
which team would you rather face? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"bearing in mind the scotland ireland group crosses with the new zealand south africa group at the quarter finals.....
which team would you rather face?"
4 years ago I’d have picked SA as we feared the ABs having never managed to beat then. Now, bring on either one. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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*them  |
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"bearing in mind the scotland ireland group crosses with the new zealand south africa group at the quarter finals.....
which team would you rather face?
4 years ago I’d have picked SA as we feared the ABs having never managed to beat then. Now, bring on either one. "
Scotland came close to beating the All blacks in 2017 Autumn internationals . Have we progressed since then? I’m not sure we have - some games show promise others are just the Scotland of old .
That said, with a fair wind on our side, a good referee who doesn’t run off the pitch at the end after a dodgy decision and I would say Scotland stand as much chance as any other tier 1.
32 - 0 down at the end of the first half, to a 37 all draw and retain the Calcutta cup - Scotland certainly have it in them to rock up with the best of them 
Also factor in the World Cup factor and anything is possible (you remember japan beating the Boks 4 years ago in Brighton )
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Still convinced it will be anIreland V South Africa quarter final. Ireland on their day will beat that SA team. |
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Shoulder to shoulder we'll answer irelands call!!! |
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"bearing in mind the scotland ireland group crosses with the new zealand south africa group at the quarter finals.....
which team would you rather face?
4 years ago I’d have picked SA as we feared the ABs having never managed to beat then. Now, bring on either one.
Scotland came close to beating the All blacks in 2017 Autumn internationals . Have we progressed since then? I’m not sure we have - some games show promise others are just the Scotland of old .
That said, with a fair wind on our side, a good referee who doesn’t run off the pitch at the end after a dodgy decision and I would say Scotland stand as much chance as any other tier 1.
32 - 0 down at the end of the first half, to a 37 all draw and retain the Calcutta cup - Scotland certainly have it in them to rock up with the best of them
Also factor in the World Cup factor and anything is possible (you remember japan beating the Boks 4 years ago in Brighton )
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"bearing in mind the scotland ireland group crosses with the new zealand south africa group at the quarter finals.....
which team would you rather face?
4 years ago I’d have picked SA as we feared the ABs having never managed to beat then. Now, bring on either one.
Scotland came close to beating the All blacks in 2017 Autumn internationals . Have we progressed since then? I’m not sure we have - some games show promise others are just the Scotland of old .
That said, with a fair wind on our side, a good referee who doesn’t run off the pitch at the end after a dodgy decision and I would say Scotland stand as much chance as any other tier 1.
32 - 0 down at the end of the first half, to a 37 all draw and retain the Calcutta cup - Scotland certainly have it in them to rock up with the best of them
Also factor in the World Cup factor and anything is possible (you remember japan beating the Boks 4 years ago in Brighton )
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Can never right them off!!!
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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watching highlights france were good and so were Fiji |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Here we go again  |
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Italy - Another great national anthem |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Another morning on the couch!
Morning, folks x |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Another morning on the couch!
Morning, folks x"
Today could be high scoring |
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By *reykiwi500Man
over a year ago
West Kent (near Tonbridge) |
"Still convinced it will be anIreland V South Africa quarter final. Ireland on their day will beat that SA team. "
That would mean Scotland beating Ireland this morning. Big call! |
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By *reykiwi500Man
over a year ago
West Kent (near Tonbridge) |
"Italy - Another great national anthem "
One of my favourites, along with France. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Another morning on the couch!
Morning, folks x"
good luck today , I think you'll edge it |
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By *rivateparts!Man
over a year ago
Walking down the only road I've ever known! |
"Another morning on the couch!
Morning, folks x good luck today , I think you'll edge it "
I've heard she's good at that  |
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By *reykiwi500Man
over a year ago
West Kent (near Tonbridge) |
"What a savage game that was
I need a nap. "
Toughest clash in world rugby usually. I was stupid for thinking both sides might take it easy (relatively speaking!) and save themselves for the rest of the tournament. |
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By *reykiwi500Man
over a year ago
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"So what do we think about the NZ and SA teams now, having watched the match? Meet again in the final? Can anyone else match them? "
I have my fingers crossed NZ and SA will meet in the final, but I think England and Wales will be in the mix too. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Another morning on the couch!
Morning, folks x good luck today , I think you'll edge it
I've heard she's good at that "
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By *reykiwi500Man
over a year ago
West Kent (near Tonbridge) |
"Boks looking a bit deflated ..
Agreed, it looked like they poured everything into that first 1/4 and were struggling after getting punished.
A couple of silly mistakes creeping in for the boks"
It did seem to me that SA went out very hard initially and the first 20 mins was about NZ soaking up pressure and then counter-attacking off mistakes. Hard to keep that sort of intensity up. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Most open world cup but it's interesting that some are writing NZ off, I think they're the team to beat. |
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By *reykiwi500Man
over a year ago
West Kent (near Tonbridge) |
"Watch some of the games this morning and just have to admire the players respect for the refs football players should be watching and taking notes "
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By *reykiwi500Man
over a year ago
West Kent (near Tonbridge) |
"Love the New Zealand anthem
It's quite long isn't it... "
It used to be half that length, but now it's sung in Maori first and then repeated in English.
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Looks like they were right about the rain  that will make the rest of the games rather interesting |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Looks like they were right about the rain that will make the rest of the games rather interesting "
it passed very quickly over there |
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"Looks like they were right about the rain that will make the rest of the games rather interesting it passed very quickly over there"
I know |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Try-fest for Italy. |
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By *odjamMan
over a year ago
woodford |
Trouble with rugby when top tier teams meet minnows.Matches are to one sided |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Good try there for Namibia "
Delighted they got it, the scoreboard doesn’t reflect how well they’ve done. |
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By *odjamMan
over a year ago
woodford |
Next match should be a close. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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You confident your boys will get the job done today? I think you should be too strong for Scotland |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"You confident your boys will get the job done today? I think you should be too strong for Scotland "
I have everything crossed anyway. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Looking forward to this next game, hoping for a competitive match going down to the wire. |
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Planned to get up for Italy and Namibia but fell back to sleep almost immediately. Sounds like a cracker, and am gutted I missed it. Now firmly ensconced on sofa with copious coffee. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Loving all the rugby at the moment ! Tough game yesterday still aching!!! |
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Only one show in town today folks. Come on Ireland!!! ÉIRE ABÚ! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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The four year wait is finally over..
COYBIG |
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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago
Manchester (he/him) |
I'm hoping that this is a cracking match, I've got a feeling it's going to be pretty one sided though |
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Sounds like a lot of Irish in the stadium |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I just can’t see Scotland beating Ireland ! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Have tea n toast ... am ready |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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And we’re off! |
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By *reykiwi500Man
over a year ago
West Kent (near Tonbridge) |
"I just can’t see Scotland beating Ireland !"
Me neither, but you never know |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"And we’re off! "
Good luck |
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I do love the Scottish anthem, very rousing
I recon it’s going to be a good one |
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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago
Manchester (he/him) |
"I do love the Scottish anthem, very rousing
I recon it’s going to be a good one "
A side note; aren't both the Scottish and Irish anthems about telling England to fuck off? |
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By *reykiwi500Man
over a year ago
West Kent (near Tonbridge) |
Good advantages being played by Wayne Barnes. Should hopefully mean a flowing game. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Fuck. Yes! |
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"I do love the Scottish anthem, very rousing
I recon it’s going to be a good one
A side note; aren't both the Scottish and Irish anthems about telling England to fuck off? "
They are cracking tunes tho |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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In for a close game I think - Scotland will capitalise on the sloppy game...
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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My god rugby union is so dull all they do is kick it away its more like tennis for fat people |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Like the way both teams are trying to keep the ball alive, shaping up already to be an exciting game |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Goosebumps listening to The Fields of Athenry  |
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"I do love the Scottish anthem, very rousing
I recon it’s going to be a good one
A side note; aren't both the Scottish and Irish anthems about telling England to fuck off? "
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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago
Manchester (he/him) |
"My god rugby union is so dull all they do is kick it away its more like tennis for fat people"
Thanks for your input, why don't you watch the league match that's on?
Oh that's right, hardly anyone cares about league! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Hurrah |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"My god rugby union is so dull all they do is kick it away its more like tennis for fat people
Thanks for your input, why don't you watch the league match that's on?
Oh that's right, hardly anyone cares about league! "
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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago
Manchester (he/him) |
Wow, the Irish are fired up! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Ohhhh - lets make a statement Ireland. Aren’t here just for the groups (like usual  ) |
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Ohhh noooo that’s held up surely |
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By *reykiwi500Man
over a year ago
West Kent (near Tonbridge) |
Great mauling from Ireland. Looking ominous for Scotland. |
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By *reykiwi500Man
over a year ago
West Kent (near Tonbridge) |
"Ohhh noooo that’s held up surely "
No definitely over. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Ohhh noooo that’s held up surely "
I think he managed to touch the line just before the Scottish hand got there |
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By *reykiwi500Man
over a year ago
West Kent (near Tonbridge) |
"My god rugby union is so dull all they do is kick it away its more like tennis for fat people
Thanks for your input, why don't you watch the league match that's on?
Oh that's right, hardly anyone cares about league! "
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By *reykiwi500Man
over a year ago
West Kent (near Tonbridge) |
"Ohhh noooo that’s held up surely
I think he managed to touch the line just before the Scottish hand got there "
Yep. Only needs to be a split second these days. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Ohhh noooo that’s held up surely
I think he managed to touch the line just before the Scottish hand got there "
Definitely, very clearly shown in slow mo |
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"Ohhh noooo that’s held up surely
I think he managed to touch the line just before the Scottish hand got there
Yep. Only needs to be a split second these days."
With controlled downward pressure
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"As you were...
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Japan to come 2nd in the group.
Scotland pooooooor |
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"Ohhh noooo that’s held up surely
I think he managed to touch the line just before the Scottish hand got there
Yep. Only needs to be a split second these days.
With controlled downward pressure
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"As you were...
Japan to come 2nd in the group.
Scotland pooooooor"
They are playing the best team in the world right now... just saying 
Scotland will come good. |
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By *reykiwi500Man
over a year ago
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"Ohhh noooo that’s held up surely
I think he managed to touch the line just before the Scottish hand got there
Yep. Only needs to be a split second these days.
With controlled downward pressure
The criteria for that used to be tougher many years ago.
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Hogg has amazing pace, shame he wasn’t going in the other direction |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I love this game. I love the beautiful game of rugby |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Booooooooom!
Furlong is a beast! Classy from Stander too |
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"Hogg has amazing pace, shame he wasn’t going in the other direction "
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By *reykiwi500Man
over a year ago
West Kent (near Tonbridge) |
"This could be a massacre. "
I hope not, but you could be right. |
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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago
Manchester (he/him) |
Oof! A decent position for Scotland turned into another score for Ireland.
It's silly little errors blighting Scotland game |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Looks like a drubbing for Scotland |
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Ireland are rocking. Dream start so far. |
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The Irish pack is looking awesome. Be interesting to see how they fair against the Southern Hemisphere. If they can keep it as tight as they are now, they could be very difficult to beat. |
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Schmidt seems to of really drilled them on the basics of the game - looks scary...
Except the handling errors |
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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago
Manchester (he/him) |
Scotland *should* finish second in this group, they're looking toothless so far though, they don't seem to have the weapons to hurt Ireland |
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over a year ago
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"Ireland are rocking. Dream start so far. "
Larmour is shutting a few doubters up right now! |
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"Ireland are rocking. Dream start so far.
Larmour is shutting a few doubters up right now!"
Question is - where’s the main man stockdale!? Thought he’d have an amazing World Cup - Leading try scorer |
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"Ireland are rocking. Dream start so far.
Larmour is shutting a few doubters up right now!"
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Ireland are rocking. Dream start so far.
Larmour is shutting a few doubters up right now!
Question is - where’s the main man stockdale!? Thought he’d have an amazing World Cup - Leading try scorer "
His time will come.
In other news - Stander. Is. Back! |
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By *reykiwi500Man
over a year ago
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"The Irish pack is looking awesome. Be interesting to see how they fair against the Southern Hemisphere. If they can keep it as tight as they are now, they could be very difficult to beat. "
An SA v Ireland QF will be interesting. That's why I was glad we beat SA yesterday. |
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By *reykiwi500Man
over a year ago
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Great run and counter-ruck! |
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"Great run and counter-ruck!"
Scotland just can’t break thru |
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"Ireland are rocking. Dream start so far.
Larmour is shutting a few doubters up right now!
Question is - where’s the main man stockdale!? Thought he’d have an amazing World Cup - Leading try scorer
His time will come.
In other news - Stander. Is. Back!"
Stander has been unreal so far |
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Nasty injury for Hamish Watson. Looked a sore one |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Ireland are rocking. Dream start so far.
Larmour is shutting a few doubters up right now!
Question is - where’s the main man stockdale!? Thought he’d have an amazing World Cup - Leading try scorer
His time will come.
In other news - Stander. Is. Back!
Stander has been unreal so far "
Yep, and Murray is having a stormer. SUAF |
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over a year ago
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"Hamid Watson "
Is he related to Hamish? |
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By *reykiwi500Man
over a year ago
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"Nasty injury for Hamish Watson. Looked a sore one "
Hope that's not the end of his tournament. |
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"Nasty injury for Hamish Watson. Looked a sore one
Hope that's not the end of his tournament."
Looks it. Very hard on him. Hate to see it |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
stander having a stormer.....
also fascinating to hear how much better barnes is on the ref mic giving instructions... definately learnt from nigel owens... |
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"Ireland are rocking. Dream start so far.
Larmour is shutting a few doubters up right now!
Question is - where’s the main man stockdale!? Thought he’d have an amazing World Cup - Leading try scorer
His time will come.
In other news - Stander. Is. Back!
Stander has been unreal so far
Yep, and Murray is having a stormer. SUAF "
Yeah the Munster boys are doing well. O Mahoney gone off though. |
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Can the Scots come back in the 2nd half? |
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Sloppy end - but happy with that half! Some nice basic rugby being played. Nothing fancy |
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"Hamid Watson
Is he related to Hamish?"
Lol yes .
I couldn’t see properly through the tears of despair at Watson getting injured |
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"Can the Scots come back in the 2nd half?"
We’ve been in a worse position and come back |
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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago
Manchester (he/him) |
"stander having a stormer.....
also fascinating to hear how much better barnes is on the ref mic giving instructions... definately learnt from nigel owens..."
I was thinking how good he has been so far |
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"stander having a stormer.....
also fascinating to hear how much better barnes is on the ref mic giving instructions... definately learnt from nigel owens..."
Yeah, Barnes is having a class outing so far. Happy with him! |
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"Hamid Watson
Is he related to Hamish?
Lol yes .
I couldn’t see properly through the tears of despair at Watson getting injured"
I hope he’ll be ok, poor guy |
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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago
Manchester (he/him) |
"Can the Scots come back in the 2nd half?
We’ve been in a worse position and come back "
Shhhh...
I really hope that Scotland can and do. It will be an uncomfortable changing room right now |
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"My god rugby union is so dull all they do is kick it away its more like tennis for fat people
Thanks for your input, why don't you watch the league match that's on?
Oh that's right, hardly anyone cares about league! "
I did yesterday nrl qualifiers pure brutality |
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Great start to the world cup for Ireland.
A little bit of luck with the ball hitting the post and subsequent try but you make your own luck. I was expecting more from Scotland, they haven't put Ireland under pressure yet. Sad to see Hamish Watson depart. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"Can the Scots come back in the 2nd half?"
the scots at the moment live and die by the way finn russell plays....
they are up on him so quickly he isn't really affecting the game!!
anyway i suppose this makes the scotland vs japan game interesting... |
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over a year ago
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Japanse licking their lips in anticipation |
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By *reykiwi500Man
over a year ago
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"stander having a stormer.....
also fascinating to hear how much better barnes is on the ref mic giving instructions... definately learnt from nigel owens...
Yeah, Barnes is having a class outing so far. Happy with him! "
I think Wayne Barnes has been an excellent referee for at least 5 years now. Consistently one of the best in the world.
He was shocking when he first came on to the international scene. |
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First look at how the weather could affect the world cup
Some chaos to come here I think |
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over a year ago
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Connor Murray is playing unreal today!! |
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"stander having a stormer.....
also fascinating to hear how much better barnes is on the ref mic giving instructions... definately learnt from nigel owens...
Yeah, Barnes is having a class outing so far. Happy with him!
Agreed. His communication with the players if 1st rate. Doesnt miss a lot either
I think Wayne Barnes has been an excellent referee for at least 5 years now. Consistently one of the best in the world.
He was shocking when he first came on to the international scene."
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"First look at how the weather could affect the world cup
Some chaos to come here I think"
they play in rain in scotland and ireland..... the only difference is that the rain may be a bit warmer!!!! |
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