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"Yeah and Dick Turpin was a little bit sexy too "Would he have been as sexy if he was called James Turpin? I wonder. | |||
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"Yeah and Dick Turpin was a little bit sexy too
Would he have been as sexy if he was called James Turpin?
I wonder."How flippin' sexy was his female sidekick, Betty?  | |||
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"Yeah and Dick Turpin was a little bit sexy too
Would he have been as sexy if he was called James Turpin?
I wonder.
How flippin' sexy was his female sidekick, Betty? "Not remotely sexy at all. | |||
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"Yeah and Dick Turpin was a little bit sexy too
Would he have been as sexy if he was called James Turpin?
I wonder.
How flippin' sexy was his female sidekick, Betty?
Not remotely sexy at all. "Oi! Leave my sexy remote out of this  | |||
" Just a thought. When everyone has done knocking the Government for levying and collecting taxes, just where do you think they should make savings in the £750bn, they spend each year on things like : Health, Pensions, Education, etc" I can't answer. The question is way too serious for my levels of intellect  | |||
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" Just a thought. When everyone has done knocking the Government for levying and collecting taxes, just where do you think they should make savings in the £750bn, they spend each year on things like : Health, Pensions, Education, etc" They could stop fighting wars? Iraq £10b Afganistan £18b Theres a good start | |||
" Just a thought. When everyone has done knocking the Government for levying and collecting taxes, just where do you think they should make savings in the £750bn, they spend each year on things like : Health, Pensions, Education, etc They could stop fighting wars? Iraq £10b Afganistan £18b Theres a good start" +2 ,  | |||
.charity begins at home but in the uk and camormorons big society he slashes the funds to charity organisations  | |||
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"the government spends just 9 billion of the revenue it gets from the roads so just where does the other 25 billion go answers on a postcard "Probably to bail out Greece .... | |||
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"This has been on the cards for years. Anybody know anyone caught by an average speed camera? I don't and I reckon they are really being used to test road toll software." Sorry I literally LOL'd at that. {Plenty of people get done by the average speed cameras. | |||
"they could stop giving x amount of billions to other countries too hell we even give aid to countries wealthier than ours .charity begins at home but in the uk and camormorons big society he slashes the funds to charity organisations " | |||
"the government spends just 9 billion of the revenue it gets from the roads so just where does the other 25 billion go answers on a postcard "What do you think pays for the Benefits bill? Or the NHS? Or Defense of the Realm? None of these things are self financing so the money to pay for them has to come from elsewhere. | |||
"Yeah and Dick Turpin was a little bit sexy too
Would he have been as sexy if he was called James Turpin?
I wonder."Don't you mean Turnip | |||
"This has been on the cards for years. Anybody know anyone caught by an average speed camera? I don't and I reckon they are really being used to test road toll software." The A1 roadworks at Dishforth has them. GRRRR  | |||
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" They could stop fighting wars? Iraq £10b Afganistan £18b Theres a good start" Sure we could. Then we'd have a standing army that never does anything so the next natural progression would be to get rid of it and save even more money at which point we'll be vulnerable to anyone who wants to take anything from us knowing we can't fight back as we no longer have an army. You can't have an army that never fights. | |||
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"Thing that really p*sses me off is that these tolls will be bound for foriegn owners, just like both of the Severn Bridge crossings, both apparently run by French Companies. And the old Severn Bridge was supposed to have been paid for and free to use years ago! "If the roads are owned by foreign companies, will you only be able to drive on them with Continental tyres?  | |||
" They could stop fighting wars? Iraq £10b Afganistan £18b Theres a good start Sure we could. Then we'd have a standing army that never does anything so the next natural progression would be to get rid of it and save even more money at which point we'll be vulnerable to anyone who wants to take anything from us knowing we can't fight back as we no longer have an army. You can't have an army that never fights." what like the swiss. and the scandanavian countrys or the French the Germans and the Italians they have large standing armed forces that don't fight | |||
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"welcome guys and girls to tory britian.Now before i say another word i have always suported labour,not that they did a great job either ,but there you go . In the past when a topic has been spoke about on hear concerning the tory party,i have noticed there has been a huge support for them ,usaly by the i am all right jack troop ,some even going as far as saying that ,great instatuations like the NHS should be wound up ,and every one should make provision for there own health care .Now how wrong is that .If you can afford you get ,if you cant you dont ,what a greedy sociaty we have became .As for the roads as someone pointed out ,they will go down the way of other public utilitys handed over to some privit company owned by some people who are suporters of the tory party public school educated and already thilthy rich,whos company is only interested in profit .Just take a look at other things that have been sold from under the british publics feet ,have the service and performance of thiese companys inproved ,NO. has there profits soerd .YES. at our the british public expence ,and i dont think if the roads are sold that they will be any diferent. All those who care stand up and be counted wright speak shout from the roof tops stop this hapening ,its not theres to sell its ours ,who is cameron and his eton boys trying to fool,handing over our property to the already ritch few .And no doubt i will get a time out for my socialist opinions again as before. but there you go for free speach Cheers guys and girls" They definitely need to spend more on education ! | |||
" They could stop fighting wars? Iraq £10b Afganistan £18b Theres a good start Sure we could. Then we'd have a standing army that never does anything so the next natural progression would be to get rid of it and save even more money at which point we'll be vulnerable to anyone who wants to take anything from us knowing we can't fight back as we no longer have an army. You can't have an army that never fights. what like the swiss. and the scandanavian countrys or the French the Germans and the Italians they have large standing armed forces that don't fight " The French have more troops committed abroad than we do. As for the Swiss, come on, who'd want them standing next to you in trench, great for Alpine warfare though, good at snowball throwing. | |||
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"just hope this lot dont here of the new car tax system in italy ANY car over 125bhp incurs a yearly tax of 20 euro per bhp extra so that means your 130bhp tdi audi would cost an extra £100 a year to tax " But lets look at it logically. We live in a country smaller than the State of Texas, with traffic cameras, average speed cameras and the Po-Po who now reclaim the revenue from speeding fines. We live in a time where (in the last 20 years) the cost of petrol / diesel has tripled. Who needs a car over 120bhp? Chances are the only place you can do over 85mph these days is on a track day (or the M1 at 3am, as long as you avoid the speed traps). | |||
" They could stop fighting wars? Iraq £10b Afganistan £18b Theres a good start Sure we could. Then we'd have a standing army that never does anything so the next natural progression would be to get rid of it and save even more money at which point we'll be vulnerable to anyone who wants to take anything from us knowing we can't fight back as we no longer have an army. You can't have an army that never fights." The swiss and the swedes seem to do all right | |||
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" The swiss and the swedes seem to do all right" The Swiss are unique in so much as organisations from all over the world have bank accounts with Swiss banks (even terrorists have a cash card y'know), and it's in Switzerland's and everyone else interest's to keep Switzerland neutral. Even during WW2 Switzerland was a known route for prisoner exchange if they actually made it that far. Why do you think Germany never invaded it when it would have been a simple country to overun. As for Sweden, they do send troops out as part of a UN force but in nowhere near the numbers we and the US commit which is why you don't hear about them. | |||
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" Just a thought. When everyone has done knocking the Government for levying and collecting taxes, just where do you think they should make savings in the £750bn, they spend each year on things like : Health, Pensions, Education, etc They could stop fighting wars? Iraq £10b Afganistan £18b Theres a good start +2 , "+3 | |||
"just hope this lot dont here of the new car tax system in italy ANY car over 125bhp incurs a yearly tax of 20 euro per bhp extra so that means your 130bhp tdi audi would cost an extra £100 a year to tax But lets look at it logically. We live in a country smaller than the State of Texas, with traffic cameras, average speed cameras and the Po-Po who now reclaim the revenue from speeding fines. We live in a time where (in the last 20 years) the cost of petrol / diesel has tripled. Who needs a car over 120bhp? Chances are the only place you can do over 85mph these days is on a track day (or the M1 at 3am, as long as you avoid the speed traps). " A pet hate of mine! | |||
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"They could stop fighting wars? Iraq £10b Afganistan £18b Theres a good start Sure we could. Then we'd have a standing army that never does anything so the next natural progression would be to get rid of it and save even more money at which point we'll be vulnerable to anyone who wants to take anything from us knowing we can't fight back as we no longer have an army." That doesn't follow at all. Iraq and Afghanistan were not necessary campaigns and we could still have the army we have today without having fought them. No one is going to decide that just because we haven't bashed up the middle east for a bit we suddenly don't need an army. | |||
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"I just had a quick look around the net and found that the government collects over £6 Billion for road tax and over £27 Billion for fuel duty a year. That's a total that exceeds £33 billion every single year and that figure doesn't even include VAT or to put it another way the 30 million UK motorists pay on average £1100 a year to the government already. I'm convinced toll roads are a massive con for private firms owned by rich friends of those in power to line their pockets from British motorists. " They talk about bringing tolls to cut congestion, toll boths increase congestion not cut it. A gripe of mine is the VAT put on fuel after the duty so that you pay 20% tax on tax. | |||
" Just a thought. When everyone has done knocking the Government for levying and collecting taxes, just where do you think they should make savings in the £750bn, they spend each year on things like : Health, Pensions, Education, etc They could stop fighting wars? Iraq £10b Afganistan £18b Theres a good start +2 ,
+3 "Reduce foriegn aid, we send billions to would you believe- China Russia and India each year | |||
" They could stop fighting wars? Iraq £10b Afganistan £18b Theres a good start Sure we could. Then we'd have a standing army that never does anything so the next natural progression would be to get rid of it and save even more money at which point we'll be vulnerable to anyone who wants to take anything from us knowing we can't fight back as we no longer have an army. You can't have an army that never fights." So we should fight wars just to keep in shape? How ridiculous. Who is going to invade the UK? A few missile batteries and no one is getting a ship within 100km of our coast, that's such a stupid argument I cant believe im wasting my time even replying. The money from the tolls would go to the company operating the toll booths not to schools/NHS/MOD et al | |||
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"So we should fight wars just to keep in shape? How ridiculous. Who is going to invade the UK? " Have you heard of The Falklands? No big deal, you might say, but those a British men, women & children down there and they have an automatic right to protection from Argentina. How can they be offered that protection without an army trained and equipped to do it and without a navy trained and equipped to get them there? Feel free to reply. | |||
"So we should fight wars just to keep in shape? How ridiculous. Who is going to invade the UK? Have you heard of The Falklands? No big deal, you might say, but those a British men, women & children down there and they have an automatic right to protection from Argentina. How can they be offered that protection without an army trained and equipped to do it and without a navy trained and equipped to get them there? Feel free to reply." I never said to get rid of the armed forces i asserted a view that to fight wars because "you cant have an army that doesn't fight" is a ridiculous argument. Yes im aware of the Falklands, i have relatives that fought there 30 years ago but i fail to see how blowing up Iraq and Afghanistan trains our armed forces to defend the Falklands. The Navy frigate, submarine and anti-ship/air missile batteries and 1100 troops are more likely to deter Argentina and its army with 30+ year old equipment than having a large amounts of our army even further away from the Faulklands than they would be if they were in the UK with no way of getting there as we have no aircraft carriers to retake the islands if we were to loose them. So again i assert my view that your claim that we need to fight wars is ludicrous. | |||
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"war is peace! dont you get it yet excession? Be pure, Be vigiliant, Behave!" My apologies i let my thoughtcrimes show | |||
"So we should fight wars just to keep in shape? How ridiculous. Who is going to invade the UK? Have you heard of The Falklands? No big deal, you might say, but those a British men, women & children down there and they have an automatic right to protection from Argentina. How can they be offered that protection without an army trained and equipped to do it and without a navy trained and equipped to get them there? Feel free to reply. I never said to get rid of the armed forces i asserted a view that to fight wars because "you cant have an army that doesn't fight" is a ridiculous argument. Yes im aware of the Falklands, i have relatives that fought there 30 years ago but i fail to see how blowing up Iraq and Afghanistan trains our armed forces to defend the Falklands. The Navy frigate, submarine and anti-ship/air missile batteries and 1100 troops are more likely to deter Argentina and its army with 30+ year old equipment than having a large amounts of our army even further away from the Faulklands than they would be if they were in the UK with no way of getting there as we have no aircraft carriers to retake the islands if we were to loose them. So again i assert my view that your claim that we need to fight wars is ludicrous." sheesh! Does everything have to spelled out in black and white for you. I used the Falklands as an EXAMPLE. Our army trains for all sorts of theatres of war. For example, they go to Norway to train for arctic warfare, and they go to Belize to train for jungle warfare etc etc., but that's beside the point. We are in Afghanistan and Iraq to support the United Nations, and our closest ally America. Where would we stand in the world if we told either of these two bodies "er, sorry, can't do this next one cos we got a few fookin pacifists kicking up a stink at home." Or how about, when called upon for help by a peoples whose 'government' is systmatically killing it's citizens for things as trivial as listening to music, or having a dance? Or how about when a despot is slaughtering men, women and children and the ages old mantra of "we must never let this happen again" is put out yet when it comes to the crunch a few fookin pacifists don't want to spend money to back up their big pacifist mouths and would rather have an army that does sod all except play at being soldiers. The world is a tough place to live in and your idea of utopia doesn't, hasn't and never will exist. | |||
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