"Scientists are saying that vegan and vegetarian diets are depriving the brain if choline. No, I had not heard of it either. The evidence suggests that this is not a healthy diet...
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Well it’s in eggs and plants. I don’t know why there is such a big debate wether people eat meat or not?  |
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"Scientists are saying that vegan and vegetarian diets are depriving the brain if choline. No, I had not heard of it either. The evidence suggests that this is not a healthy diet...
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Thats a new one I though a lack of iron was the major issue. |
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"Scientists are saying that vegan and vegetarian diets are depriving the brain if choline. No, I had not heard of it either. The evidence suggests that this is not a healthy diet...
Thats a new one I though a lack of iron was the major issue. "
Nah b12 |
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"If we listened to mainstream media, we'd all be eating dust.
Do what you like, in accordance with your beliefs/conscience/preference. "
I agree. We're darn lucky to be able to choose what we do and don't eat |
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"I have a friend who's vegan. She was religiously taking vitamin b supplements, until a blood test showed that her levels were too high  "
You don’t always have to take them, depends on your diet. The guy I’m seeing is a vegan but rarely takes vitamins. He grows most stuff and eats well. He also plays football at a semi professional level so is super fit also for his age of 46 |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
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It was recently reported that a new born was put on a vegan diet and after several weeks the child was so severely malnourished that the parents were in big trouble with the authorities. They had good intentions I am sure and hope the little one pulls through. |
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"It was recently reported that a new born was put on a vegan diet and after several weeks the child was so severely malnourished that the parents were in big trouble with the authorities. They had good intentions I am sure and hope the little one pulls through. "
Of course you're not supposed to put a baby on a vegan diet. It's absolutely fine for a fully developed adult though. |
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"I have a friend who's vegan. She was religiously taking vitamin b supplements, until a blood test showed that her levels were too high
You don’t always have to take them, depends on your diet. The guy I’m seeing is a vegan but rarely takes vitamins. He grows most stuff and eats well. He also plays football at a semi professional level so is super fit also for his age of 46"
Yes my friends entire family is vegan and as far as I can tell they're all perfectly well. I think she was a bit over enthusiastic with the vitamins lol |
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"I have a friend who's vegan. She was religiously taking vitamin b supplements, until a blood test showed that her levels were too high "
B vitamins are water soluble so if you take too much you just pee it out. It won't hurt you but you are wasting your money! |
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It's only vit B12 that's the problem and as long as eat fortified foods can be generally ok
Choline is in cauliflower and broccoli so as long as a vegan eats them regularly plus takes a general good mineral supplement then it'll be ok! Seems a huge amount of the general population has a choline deficiency |
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"Scientists are saying that vegan and vegetarian diets are depriving the brain if choline. No, I had not heard of it either. The evidence suggests that this is not a healthy diet...
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Vegetarians are fine as it's in eggs |
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"It was recently reported that a new born was put on a vegan diet and after several weeks the child was so severely malnourished that the parents were in big trouble with the authorities. They had good intentions I am sure and hope the little one pulls through. "
Hmmmmmmmm
Facts please
I'm not a parent or have a clue , but are new borns not supposed to be on a liquid diet , ie breast milk or alternative ? Ie is the standard newborn diet not already vegan , and yes of course vegans can breast feed , only a twisted logic would try to debate otherwise
A good vegan diet is as good as any good diet
A bad vegan diet is as bad as any bad diet
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"Scientists are saying that vegan and vegetarian diets are depriving the brain if choline. No, I had not heard of it either. The evidence suggests that this is not a healthy diet...
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Yeah. We should all just eat sausage rolls and big macs
Real food, for real people |
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"No shit. I wouldnt be surprised if coline is used to insulate brain cells. Also a balanced diet is best.
That's why I do ass to mouth !
Wow
This  "
Indeed I heard you like to put a W on each ass cheek so when bent over you get the WoW factor :/) |
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"Scientists are saying that vegan and vegetarian diets are depriving the brain if choline. No, I had not heard of it either. The evidence suggests that this is not a healthy diet...
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Peanuts, wheat , pasta , rice , spinach , beetroots , soy beans , mushrooms, potatoes, quinoa , sprouts, cauliflower...... and I can't be fucked to list any more choline sources..
I guess it sold a few papers and those happy with one source of info passed on the half truth half lie and got others to believe it. It's always best to read widely.
ANYONE runs the risk of missing minerals and vits...... anyone..
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"Scientists are saying that vegan and vegetarian diets are depriving the brain if choline. No, I had not heard of it either. The evidence suggests that this is not a healthy diet...
Peanuts, wheat , pasta , rice , spinach , beetroots , soy beans , mushrooms, potatoes, quinoa , sprouts, cauliflower...... and I can't be fucked to list any more choline sources..
I guess it sold a few papers and those happy with one source of info passed on the half truth half lie and got others to believe it. It's always best to read widely.
ANYONE runs the risk of missing minerals and vits...... anyone..
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Hey! Stop talking sense! Nobody needs facts!! |
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"It's only vit B12 that's the problem and as long as eat fortified foods can be generally ok
Choline is in cauliflower and broccoli so as long as a vegan eats them regularly plus takes a general good mineral supplement then it'll be ok! Seems a huge amount of the general population has a choline deficiency "
Yeah ... prob the fast food folk. |
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"Scientists are saying that vegan and vegetarian diets are depriving the brain if choline. No, I had not heard of it either. The evidence suggests that this is not a healthy diet...
Peanuts, wheat , pasta , rice , spinach , beetroots , soy beans , mushrooms, potatoes, quinoa , sprouts, cauliflower...... and I can't be fucked to list any more choline sources..
I guess it sold a few papers and those happy with one source of info passed on the half truth half lie and got others to believe it. It's always best to read widely.
ANYONE runs the risk of missing minerals and vits...... anyone..
Hey! Stop talking sense! Nobody needs facts!!"
Sos........ I'm such a toss pot today.
DOWN WITH VEGANS UP WITH THE CHOLINE. |
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"I have a friend who's vegan. She was religiously taking vitamin b supplements, until a blood test showed that her levels were too high
B vitamins are water soluble so if you take too much you just pee it out. It won't hurt you but you are wasting your money!"
Indeed! It does go some way to showing that her vegan diet is providing the necessary amount though |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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The Royal Academy of Medicine in Belgium has called for parents to be prosecuted if parents force a vegan diet on newborns.
The case I mentioned earlier was in Sydney. The child was taken into care and has never recovered and has rickets.
I am no scientist but would not take the risk |
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"The Royal Academy of Medicine in Belgium has called for parents to be prosecuted if parents force a vegan diet on newborns.
The case I mentioned earlier was in Sydney. The child was taken into care and has never recovered and has rickets.
I am no scientist but would not take the risk"
There needs to be more research into this. I feel they probably used a restricted diet in terms of food groups and not necessarily a vegan diet. I'm not disbelieving the story but I am disbelieving the 'vegan' angle. I'd more readily believe a protein and mineral deficiency angle.
P.S. Vegans get ALL they need to thrive and grow and develop good bones. |
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"The Royal Academy of Medicine in Belgium has called for parents to be prosecuted if parents force a vegan diet on newborns.
The case I mentioned earlier was in Sydney. The child was taken into care and has never recovered and has rickets.
I am no scientist but would not take the risk
There needs to be more research into this. I feel they probably used a restricted diet in terms of food groups and not necessarily a vegan diet. I'm not disbelieving the story but I am disbelieving the 'vegan' angle. I'd more readily believe a protein and mineral deficiency angle.
P.S. Vegans get ALL they need to thrive and grow and develop good bones."
I agree. It was probably bad vegan diet. A bad diet is a bad diet whether it's plant or meat based |
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I've read the article about the baby now. It has been worded so as to imply that a vegan diet is at fault.
Her mother's depression and compromised moral thinking and care abilities were at fault. They fed a highly inadequate diet. They did not realise.
It is NOT because she is VEGAN. The child was given a very poor diet. |
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"The Royal Academy of Medicine in Belgium has called for parents to be prosecuted if parents force a vegan diet on newborns.
The case I mentioned earlier was in Sydney. The child was taken into care and has never recovered and has rickets.
I am no scientist but would not take the risk
There needs to be more research into this. I feel they probably used a restricted diet in terms of food groups and not necessarily a vegan diet. I'm not disbelieving the story but I am disbelieving the 'vegan' angle. I'd more readily believe a protein and mineral deficiency angle.
P.S. Vegans get ALL they need to thrive and grow and develop good bones.
I agree. It was probably bad vegan diet. A bad diet is a bad diet whether it's plant or meat based"
One case of a vegan diet causing a child health problems -vs- probably millions of cases of health problems caused by poor nutrition from non-vegans - neither are right but I wouldn't be using one single case to attack veganism (and before you say it I am sure there is more than that one case BUT it'll still be nothing compared to the number of cases of children fed on McDs and other crap) |
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"Newborns should have human milk .... obvs.
Humans only animals to drink milk of other species??"
Not strictly true if an predictor kills a lactating mammal it will consume the milk along with the blood. |
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"Look up stats on longevity of vegans v meat eaters...."
They do live longer but studies say its nothing to do with being vegan. They are more likely to exercise, be married, smoke less and drink less alcohol—all factors that also contribute to a longer life. |
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I'm off for a steak lunch - bad for me apparently
I'm gonna have a beer - bad for me apparently
I'll have some ice cream - bad for me apparently
Not a salad leaf in sight - bad for me apparently
But hey, fuck it. I am seriously gonna enjoy it. Yum the fuck yum. |
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"Look up stats on longevity of vegans v meat eaters....
They do live longer but studies say its nothing to do with being vegan. They are more likely to exercise, be married, smoke less and drink less alcohol—all factors that also contribute to a longer life. "
Interesting. Vegans more likely to be married...? Wonder why |
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"Look up stats on longevity of vegans v meat eaters....
They do live longer but studies say its nothing to do with being vegan. They are more likely to exercise, be married, smoke less and drink less alcohol—all factors that also contribute to a longer life.
Interesting. Vegans more likely to be married...? Wonder why"
They have to take their dates to better places than McDonald's and KFC. |
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"Look up stats on longevity of vegans v meat eaters....
They do live longer but studies say its nothing to do with being vegan. They are more likely to exercise, be married, smoke less and drink less alcohol—all factors that also contribute to a longer life.
Interesting. Vegans more likely to be married...? Wonder why
They have to take their dates to better places than McDonald's and KFC."
I go to Maccy D's if I want to. I don't eat animal products. They have a varied menu.
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"Look up stats on longevity of vegans v meat eaters....
They do live longer but studies say its nothing to do with being vegan. They are more likely to exercise, be married, smoke less and drink less alcohol—all factors that also contribute to a longer life.
Interesting. Vegans more likely to be married...? Wonder why
They have to take their dates to better places than McDonald's and KFC."
Lol |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
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"Look up stats on longevity of vegans v meat eaters....
They do live longer but studies say its nothing to do with being vegan. They are more likely to exercise, be married, smoke less and drink less alcohol—all factors that also contribute to a longer life. "
They often seem to do yoga for some reason... |
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By *xmfrvnMan
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"Look up stats on longevity of vegans v meat eaters....
They do live longer but studies say its nothing to do with being vegan. They are more likely to exercise, be married, smoke less and drink less alcohol—all factors that also contribute to a longer life.
They often seem to do yoga for some reason..."
My yoga teacher is vegan, maybe I should offer her some meat. |
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"Newborns should have human milk .... obvs.
Humans only animals to drink milk of other species??
Not strictly true if an predictor kills a lactating mammal it will consume the milk along with the blood. "
Blue tits pecking open milk bottles to get to the cream, cats will choose to drink milk, dogs, rats. There’s a lot that do. Cross species adoption happens, cows feeding horses, dogs feeding numerous animals.
Have no problem with vegan diet but no for me |
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"Newborns should have human milk .... obvs.
Humans only animals to drink milk of other species??
Not strictly true if an predictor kills a lactating mammal it will consume the milk along with the blood.
Blue tits pecking open milk bottles to get to the cream, cats will choose to drink milk, dogs, rats. There’s a lot that do. Cross species adoption happens, cows feeding horses, dogs feeding numerous animals.
Have no problem with vegan diet but no for me"
Okey dokey then. |
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Choline deficiency is known to impact the way one behaves in civil society. Sufferers are known to feel the need to tell everyone about their dietary choices and judge others for theirs.
One doesn’t need to look out for the signs of Choline deficiency, sufferers will make you more than aware in any conversation about any subject or will set upon you when you walk out of Greggs |
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"Choline deficiency is known to impact the way one behaves in civil society. Sufferers are known to feel the need to tell everyone about their dietary choices and judge others for theirs.
One doesn’t need to look out for the signs of Choline deficiency, sufferers will make you more than aware in any conversation about any subject or will set upon you when you walk out of Greggs"
Wow excessive bacon consumption causes choline deficiency? So that's why I get abuse over my vegan sausage rolls in greggs! |
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"Choline deficiency is known to impact the way one behaves in civil society. Sufferers are known to feel the need to tell everyone about their dietary choices and judge others for theirs.
One doesn’t need to look out for the signs of Choline deficiency, sufferers will make you more than aware in any conversation about any subject or will set upon you when you walk out of Greggs"
Said the vegan 
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"Choline deficiency is known to impact the way one behaves in civil society. Sufferers are known to feel the need to tell everyone about their dietary choices and judge others for theirs.
One doesn’t need to look out for the signs of Choline deficiency, sufferers will make you more than aware in any conversation about any subject or will set upon you when you walk out of Greggs
Said the vegan
the ability to laugh at oneself is restful for the soul, don’t you think? "
Are you replying to yourself? |
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"Choline deficiency is known to impact the way one behaves in civil society. Sufferers are known to feel the need to tell everyone about their dietary choices and judge others for theirs.
One doesn’t need to look out for the signs of Choline deficiency, sufferers will make you more than aware in any conversation about any subject or will set upon you when you walk out of Greggs"
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"I've read the article about the baby now. It has been worded so as to imply that a vegan diet is at fault.
Her mother's depression and compromised moral thinking and care abilities were at fault. They fed a highly inadequate diet. They did not realise.
It is NOT because she is VEGAN. The child was given a very poor diet. "
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"I like the song,
Choline, Choline, Choline, Choliiiiiine.
I'm begging of you please don't take my mayun."
Oh stop it ! I was non stop singing it yesterday but wouldn't post.
I'm re sounding it as col iron. So you can't sing that tune now....... stop. |
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"Scientists are saying that vegan and vegetarian diets are depriving the brain if choline. No, I had not heard of it either. The evidence suggests that this is not a healthy diet...
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is anything truly healthy, breathing in some parts of the world can kill you, drinking water in others if people choose to eat vegetables because they love animals more than their fellow man that surely is a choice , from the minute you're born you're next adventure is life you will at some point die so live the way that life makes you happy  |
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"If we listened to mainstream media, we'd all be eating dust.
Do what you like, in accordance with your beliefs/conscience/preference. "
Well to be fair, mainstream media has been pushing a balanced diet as the one you should go for, for years now. |
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"I like the song,
Choline, Choline, Choline, Choliiiiiine.
I'm begging of you please don't take my mayun.
Oh stop it ! I was non stop singing it yesterday but wouldn't post.
I'm re sounding it as col iron. So you can't sing that tune now....... stop."
Ok
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Hand ayayay will always looooooovee yeeeeeeewwwwww...  |
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