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"It's like bi (for guys) may as well be called leper, what's the issue? Is it the increased potential competition? Worried they might think a man's better? " I disagree. There are loads of women who are especially turned on by it. Even better are the ones who treat you no differently for being bi. If anything I get more female attention now that I've changed my sexuality, less male attention. Given I prefer women, that's a win win for me. | |||
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"It's like bi (for guys) may as well be called leper, what's the issue? Is it the increased potential competition? Worried they might think a man's better? " Women are slaves to fashion, and 80's retro chic is so hot right now (AIDS joke) | |||
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"It's like bi (for guys) may as well be called leper, what's the issue? Is it the increased potential competition? Worried they might think a man's better? " We as a male bi and female straight couple only want bi males and not interested in straight men, Rosie love to see me with men, i do know what u mean thoe with women even if they are bi there's like double standards, even in todays society its still acceptable for women to be bi but not men and treated like its a dirty thing | |||
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"It's like bi (for guys) may as well be called leper, what's the issue? Is it the increased potential competition? Worried they might think a man's better? " They aren’t.. next question  | |||
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"I don't have a problem with bi guys. My issue lies with the ones that have 2 profiles ~ one straight and one bi. Just fucking own your sexuality and respect the women who choose not to meet bi guys whatever their reasoning may be "We hate guys messaging us saying they are bi but profile says straight the usuall excuse is it puts women off or i dont like men hounding me (what they think because a male is bi or gay they want to bang um) or we do get yeah profile says straight but if u check fab guys ull see I'm bi, sorry but y should we chance you | |||
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"I just want a man who is 100% into women." I don't particularly fancy blokes, if I'm with a lady of an evening, then she will have my 100% undivided attention  | |||
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"On the contrary OP - I've found that women/couples that don't want to meet bi guys are in the minority rather than "most" Either way I tend not to concern myself with those that won't meet me, regardless of the reason and prefer to focus on those that would like to "^what this guy said. All of it. | |||
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"I don't have a problem with bi guys. My issue lies with the ones that have 2 profiles ~ one straight and one bi. Just fucking own your sexuality and respect the women who choose not to meet bi guys whatever their reasoning may be "There's a guy in Derby (not sure if he's still on the site) that was bi, then he made a straight profile as well. Same pics and blurb on his profile as well  | |||
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"I don't have a problem with bi guys. My issue lies with the ones that have 2 profiles ~ one straight and one bi. Just fucking own your sexuality and respect the women who choose not to meet bi guys whatever their reasoning may be
There's a guy in Derby (not sure if he's still on the site) that was bi, then he made a straight profile as well. Same pics and blurb on his profile as well "I know a guy that did that and verified his other profile lol | |||
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"I don't have a problem with bi guys. My issue lies with the ones that have 2 profiles ~ one straight and one bi. Just fucking own your sexuality and respect the women who choose not to meet bi guys whatever their reasoning may be
There's a guy in Derby (not sure if he's still on the site) that was bi, then he made a straight profile as well. Same pics and blurb on his profile as well I know a guy that did that and verified his other profile lol"He must have wanked himself off often enough to verify his right hand at least  | |||
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"I don't have a problem with bi guys. My issue lies with the ones that have 2 profiles ~ one straight and one bi. Just fucking own your sexuality and respect the women who choose not to meet bi guys whatever their reasoning may be
There's a guy in Derby (not sure if he's still on the site) that was bi, then he made a straight profile as well. Same pics and blurb on his profile as well "I think my ranty status earlier asking why some guts have 2 profiles has inspired the OP to post. I noticed some new pics on my local updates, then a bit the lower the same pics. So I put my Sherlock hat on and...guess what...it's the same guy ~ straight and bi!! So annoying! | |||
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"I don't have a problem with bi guys. My issue lies with the ones that have 2 profiles ~ one straight and one bi. Just fucking own your sexuality and respect the women who choose not to meet bi guys whatever their reasoning may be "My ex is on here straight on fab and bi on fabguys. I said that it's lying he refused to knowledge this.. | |||
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"Not what we believe but we think it's the spread of STDs. And maybe woman or couples are just not turned on by two men together. Sexual preferences? " Sexual preferences is probably the predominant reason. Although being a bisexual Male means you are at a greater risk of STI’s, this likely influences people’s decisions too. | |||
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"There are many who perceive bi men as more of a risk sti wise. The perception rightly or wrongly is bi men are more promiscuous and less likley to use protection. Others want a masculine man and perceive bi men as less masculine so avoid. These perceptions may be right they may be wrong but at the end of the day people have the right of choice who they play with and there reasons for doing so they have a right not to disclose. " Perceptions are just that. There is no proof bi guys are more promiscuous, less likely to use protection or indeed less masculine than a straight guy | |||
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"I wonder how many of those with preferences ever questioned themselves why they hold them? Of those who did.. whether their preference.. or boundaries changed afterwards?" Do you question why you have preferences? I am a straight woman, so I prefer a straight man. That’s my reason. I like tall men, it doesn’t mean I’m against short men. | |||
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"There are many who perceive bi men as more of a risk sti wise. The perception rightly or wrongly is bi men are more promiscuous and less likley to use protection. Others want a masculine man and perceive bi men as less masculine so avoid. These perceptions may be right they may be wrong but at the end of the day people have the right of choice who they play with and there reasons for doing so they have a right not to disclose. Perceptions are just that. There is no proof bi guys are more promiscuous, less likely to use protection or indeed less masculine than a straight guy " You are correct. However statistics in regards to STI’s do show that those at greater risk of STI’s are, young people, gay and bisexual men. Of course, that doesn’t mean all, it’s simply a statistic. No doubt there are plenty of young people (myself), gay men & bisexual men who use protection and have never had an STI. But it’s likely that these statistics can be an influences in some people’s decisions. | |||
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"There are many who perceive bi men as more of a risk sti wise. The perception rightly or wrongly is bi men are more promiscuous and less likley to use protection. Others want a masculine man and perceive bi men as less masculine so avoid. These perceptions may be right they may be wrong but at the end of the day people have the right of choice who they play with and there reasons for doing so they have a right not to disclose. Perceptions are just that. There is no proof bi guys are more promiscuous, less likely to use protection or indeed less masculine than a straight guy You are correct. However statistics in regards to STI’s do show that those at greater risk of STI’s are, young people, gay and bisexual men. Of course, that doesn’t mean all, it’s simply a statistic. No doubt there are plenty of young people (myself), gay men & bisexual men who use protection and have never had an STI. But it’s likely that these statistics can be an influences in some people’s decisions. " Individuals believe what they read. Personally I prefer to make up my own mind about a group of people and feel it’s not right to discount one group because of a statistic, it’s called talking and asking the right questions of someone you may choose to be with | |||
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"There are many who perceive bi men as more of a risk sti wise. The perception rightly or wrongly is bi men are more promiscuous and less likley to use protection. Others want a masculine man and perceive bi men as less masculine so avoid. These perceptions may be right they may be wrong but at the end of the day people have the right of choice who they play with and there reasons for doing so they have a right not to disclose. Perceptions are just that. There is no proof bi guys are more promiscuous, less likely to use protection or indeed less masculine than a straight guy You are correct. However statistics in regards to STI’s do show that those at greater risk of STI’s are, young people, gay and bisexual men. Of course, that doesn’t mean all, it’s simply a statistic. No doubt there are plenty of young people (myself), gay men & bisexual men who use protection and have never had an STI. But it’s likely that these statistics can be an influences in some people’s decisions. Individuals believe what they read. Personally I prefer to make up my own mind about a group of people and feel it’s not right to discount one group because of a statistic, it’s called talking and asking the right questions of someone you may choose to be with " And you’re entitled to do so, equally as others are entitled to read that information and make a decision based on it. I’d love to know what talking and questions one would ask to assert whether that person is at greater risk in regards to STI’s. | |||
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"I wonder how many of those with preferences ever questioned themselves why they hold them? Of those who did.. whether their preference.. or boundaries changed afterwards? Do you question why you have preferences? I am a straight woman, so I prefer a straight man. That’s my reason. I like tall men, it doesn’t mean I’m against short men. " Yes. All the time. I know straight women who like me. You being straight has nothing to do with not liking bi guys. That's not a reason. It's not against small guys if you pick the occasional one every now and again, because of his looks, body, personality. It kind of is if you won't even consider it. Doesn't really effect me in the slightest as I'm happy in myself. Doesn't stop me poking holes in other peoples theories about preference when used to defend something they struggle to explain. | |||
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"Said it further up and will say it again - why worry yourself about those that won't meet you? Surely it's better to focus on those that will? People hold and express all sorts of preferences about all sorts of things is pointless trying to change them. The "I'm bi and people won't meet me" debate is possibly one of the most divisive and regular ones to crop up on here - if people just accepted others have preferences whether that be about sexuality, height, skin colour, pubic hair style and much much more and so long as those preferences are expressed in a non-bigotted or derogatory way then they're perfectly entitled to them - just as much as the next man, or woman "it only usually comes up properly.. when the conversation collapses because someone did say something in a bigoted, or derogatory way. I also think preference is used as a get out of jail card to express some odd views that have a right to be questioned. | |||
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"I wonder how many of those with preferences ever questioned themselves why they hold them? Of those who did.. whether their preference.. or boundaries changed afterwards? Do you question why you have preferences? I am a straight woman, so I prefer a straight man. That’s my reason. I like tall men, it doesn’t mean I’m against short men. Yes. All the time. I know straight women who like me. You being straight has nothing to do with not liking bi guys. That's not a reason. It's not against small guys if you pick the occasional one every now and again, because of his looks, body, personality. It kind of is if you won't even consider it. Doesn't really effect me in the slightest as I'm happy in myself. Doesn't stop me poking holes in other peoples theories about preference when used to defend something they struggle to explain. " Just as, your opinion doesn’t affect me either. I don’t go for short guys regardless, because I’m not physically attracted to “shortness”. Equally I don’t go for bisexual men, because I want a straight man. Straight women liking you has nothing to do with me as I am my own person, as are they. I have a preference and I’m entitled to one. I don’t see any point in strangers on the internet questioning my preference, what will it achieve? I don’t struggle to explain my preference, I’ve just explained it. Maybe you don’t like the explanation. What Gemini Man said is 100% spot on. | |||
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" Perceptions are just that. There is no proof bi guys are more promiscuous, less likely to use protection or indeed less masculine than a straight guy You are correct. However statistics in regards to STI’s do show that those at greater risk of STI’s are, young people, gay and bisexual men. Of course, that doesn’t mean all, it’s simply a statistic. No doubt there are plenty of young people (myself), gay men & bisexual men who use protection and have never had an STI. But it’s likely that these statistics can be an influences in some people’s decisions. Individuals believe what they read. Personally I prefer to make up my own mind about a group of people and feel it’s not right to discount one group because of a statistic, it’s called talking and asking the right questions of someone you may choose to be with And you’re entitled to do so, equally as others are entitled to read that information and make a decision based on it. I’d love to know what talking and questions one would ask to assert whether that person is at greater risk in regards to STI’s. "What questions is that not obvious ? By talking to someone you get an understanding of their character and behaviour. Added to this their sexual preferences, how they operate being completely open with each other as starters | |||
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"I wonder how many of those with preferences ever questioned themselves why they hold them? Of those who did.. whether their preference.. or boundaries changed afterwards? Do you question why you have preferences? I am a straight woman, so I prefer a straight man. That’s my reason. I like tall men, it doesn’t mean I’m against short men. Yes. All the time. I know straight women who like me. You being straight has nothing to do with not liking bi guys. That's not a reason. It's not against small guys if you pick the occasional one every now and again, because of his looks, body, personality. It kind of is if you won't even consider it. Doesn't really effect me in the slightest as I'm happy in myself. Doesn't stop me poking holes in other peoples theories about preference when used to defend something they struggle to explain. Just as, your opinion doesn’t affect me either. I don’t go for short guys regardless, because I’m not physically attracted to “shortness”. Equally I don’t go for bisexual men, because I want a straight man. Straight women liking you has nothing to do with me as I am my own person, as are they. I have a preference and I’m entitled to one. I don’t see any point in strangers on the internet questioning my preference, what will it achieve? I don’t struggle to explain my preference, I’ve just explained it. Maybe you don’t like the explanation. What Gemini Man said is 100% spot on. "It usually is, but he isn't always right. Nobody is. Hey, I'm only using an example you gave. "I'm a straight woman, therefore I only want straight men". What does that make the straight women who do like bi men? I ask, because there is no harm in getting people to question why they hold the views they do. A bit of soul searching isn't a bad thing. So you are against short guys? Sexually speaking? Ok. I don't care why? I just wonder if you ever asked yourself why? I don't need/want an explanation. Just questioning everyone who uses preference as an excuse without a little self investigation first. | |||
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" Perceptions are just that. There is no proof bi guys are more promiscuous, less likely to use protection or indeed less masculine than a straight guy You are correct. However statistics in regards to STI’s do show that those at greater risk of STI’s are, young people, gay and bisexual men. Of course, that doesn’t mean all, it’s simply a statistic. No doubt there are plenty of young people (myself), gay men & bisexual men who use protection and have never had an STI. But it’s likely that these statistics can be an influences in some people’s decisions. Individuals believe what they read. Personally I prefer to make up my own mind about a group of people and feel it’s not right to discount one group because of a statistic, it’s called talking and asking the right questions of someone you may choose to be with And you’re entitled to do so, equally as others are entitled to read that information and make a decision based on it. I’d love to know what talking and questions one would ask to assert whether that person is at greater risk in regards to STI’s.
What questions is that not obvious ?
By talking to someone you get an understanding of their character and behaviour. Added to this their sexual preferences, how they operate being completely open with each other as starters "People’s character and behaviour can change, it can also be moulded to the person they are speaking to. Promiscuous people at higher risk of infection who are careless in regards to protection, aren’t likely to have any warning signs that say they are, other than the obvious. | |||
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" Perceptions are just that. There is no proof bi guys are more promiscuous, less likely to use protection or indeed less masculine than a straight guy You are correct. However statistics in regards to STI’s do show that those at greater risk of STI’s are, young people, gay and bisexual men. Of course, that doesn’t mean all, it’s simply a statistic. No doubt there are plenty of young people (myself), gay men & bisexual men who use protection and have never had an STI. But it’s likely that these statistics can be an influences in some people’s decisions. Individuals believe what they read. Personally I prefer to make up my own mind about a group of people and feel it’s not right to discount one group because of a statistic, it’s called talking and asking the right questions of someone you may choose to be with And you’re entitled to do so, equally as others are entitled to read that information and make a decision based on it. I’d love to know what talking and questions one would ask to assert whether that person is at greater risk in regards to STI’s.
What questions is that not obvious ?
By talking to someone you get an understanding of their character and behaviour. Added to this their sexual preferences, how they operate being completely open with each other as starters
People’s character and behaviour can change, it can also be moulded to the person they are speaking to.
Promiscuous people at higher risk of infection who are careless in regards to protection, aren’t likely to have any warning signs that say they are, other than the obvious. "Well that’s where you have to be savvy and see through it. I personally don’t just jump into bed with anyone If you’re not asking those questions before you get into bed with someone, as you say, there isn’t any signs, you are knowingly taking that risk. | |||
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"I wonder how many of those with preferences ever questioned themselves why they hold them? Of those who did.. whether their preference.. or boundaries changed afterwards? Do you question why you have preferences? I am a straight woman, so I prefer a straight man. That’s my reason. I like tall men, it doesn’t mean I’m against short men. Yes. All the time. I know straight women who like me. You being straight has nothing to do with not liking bi guys. That's not a reason. It's not against small guys if you pick the occasional one every now and again, because of his looks, body, personality. It kind of is if you won't even consider it. Doesn't really effect me in the slightest as I'm happy in myself. Doesn't stop me poking holes in other peoples theories about preference when used to defend something they struggle to explain. Just as, your opinion doesn’t affect me either. I don’t go for short guys regardless, because I’m not physically attracted to “shortness”. Equally I don’t go for bisexual men, because I want a straight man. Straight women liking you has nothing to do with me as I am my own person, as are they. I have a preference and I’m entitled to one. I don’t see any point in strangers on the internet questioning my preference, what will it achieve? I don’t struggle to explain my preference, I’ve just explained it. Maybe you don’t like the explanation. What Gemini Man said is 100% spot on.
It usually is, but he isn't always right. Nobody is.
Hey, I'm only using an example you gave. "I'm a straight woman, therefore I only want straight men". What does that make the straight women who do like bi men?
I ask, because there is no harm in getting people to question why they hold the views they do. A bit of soul searching isn't a bad thing.
So you are against short guys? Sexually speaking? Ok. I don't care why? I just wonder if you ever asked yourself why? I don't need/want an explanation.
Just questioning everyone who uses preference as an excuse without a little self investigation first. "Straight women who like bisexual men, are no different to myself apart from their preference. I think you are getting confused, me saying I’m a straight woman so I want a straight man has no bearing on what other straight people do, it’s simply my preference. I would like to meet someone with the same sexual orientation as myself. It seems to me, you don’t like that I or women may have this preference so rather than accept we are all different and go for different things, you want a direct explanation as to why people like what they like. For example, there are men who only seek out slim women, men who only seek out BBW’s etc, have you ever questioned them as to why? I’m not against short men, I’m simply not physically attracted to short men. I’m not sure how you expect a physical attraction or preference to be questioned. Do you question why you’re bisexual? Or why you’d prefer a female over a male? | |||
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" Perceptions are just that. There is no proof bi guys are more promiscuous, less likely to use protection or indeed less masculine than a straight guy You are correct. However statistics in regards to STI’s do show that those at greater risk of STI’s are, young people, gay and bisexual men. Of course, that doesn’t mean all, it’s simply a statistic. No doubt there are plenty of young people (myself), gay men & bisexual men who use protection and have never had an STI. But it’s likely that these statistics can be an influences in some people’s decisions. Individuals believe what they read. Personally I prefer to make up my own mind about a group of people and feel it’s not right to discount one group because of a statistic, it’s called talking and asking the right questions of someone you may choose to be with And you’re entitled to do so, equally as others are entitled to read that information and make a decision based on it. I’d love to know what talking and questions one would ask to assert whether that person is at greater risk in regards to STI’s.
What questions is that not obvious ?
By talking to someone you get an understanding of their character and behaviour. Added to this their sexual preferences, how they operate being completely open with each other as starters
People’s character and behaviour can change, it can also be moulded to the person they are speaking to.
Promiscuous people at higher risk of infection who are careless in regards to protection, aren’t likely to have any warning signs that say they are, other than the obvious.
Well that’s where you have to be savvy and see through it. I personally don’t just jump into bed with anyone
If you’re not asking those questions before you get into bed with someone, as you say, there isn’t any signs, you are knowingly taking that risk. "I’m the same, I don’t just jump into bed with anyone. However, that is my point. It’s a risk regardless, as unless we can by flies on a wall (if only), we will never truly know another persons sexual history! | |||
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" Perceptions are just that. There is no proof bi guys are more promiscuous, less likely to use protection or indeed less masculine than a straight guy You are correct. However statistics in regards to STI’s do show that those at greater risk of STI’s are, young people, gay and bisexual men. Of course, that doesn’t mean all, it’s simply a statistic. No doubt there are plenty of young people (myself), gay men & bisexual men who use protection and have never had an STI. But it’s likely that these statistics can be an influences in some people’s decisions. Individuals believe what they read. Personally I prefer to make up my own mind about a group of people and feel it’s not right to discount one group because of a statistic, it’s called talking and asking the right questions of someone you may choose to be with And you’re entitled to do so, equally as others are entitled to read that information and make a decision based on it. I’d love to know what talking and questions one would ask to assert whether that person is at greater risk in regards to STI’s.
What questions is that not obvious ?
By talking to someone you get an understanding of their character and behaviour. Added to this their sexual preferences, how they operate being completely open with each other as starters
People’s character and behaviour can change, it can also be moulded to the person they are speaking to.
Promiscuous people at higher risk of infection who are careless in regards to protection, aren’t likely to have any warning signs that say they are, other than the obvious.
Well that’s where you have to be savvy and see through it. I personally don’t just jump into bed with anyone
If you’re not asking those questions before you get into bed with someone, as you say, there isn’t any signs, you are knowingly taking that risk.
I’m the same, I don’t just jump into bed with anyone.
However, that is my point. It’s a risk regardless, as unless we can by flies on a wall (if only), we will never truly know another persons sexual history!"Unfortunately it’s not a point you are making well ! The way you word your comments is making blanket statements about types of individuals and their behaviour and associated risk factor. | |||
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" Perceptions are just that. There is no proof bi guys are more promiscuous, less likely to use protection or indeed less masculine than a straight guy You are correct. However statistics in regards to STI’s do show that those at greater risk of STI’s are, young people, gay and bisexual men. Of course, that doesn’t mean all, it’s simply a statistic. No doubt there are plenty of young people (myself), gay men & bisexual men who use protection and have never had an STI. But it’s likely that these statistics can be an influences in some people’s decisions. Individuals believe what they read. Personally I prefer to make up my own mind about a group of people and feel it’s not right to discount one group because of a statistic, it’s called talking and asking the right questions of someone you may choose to be with And you’re entitled to do so, equally as others are entitled to read that information and make a decision based on it. I’d love to know what talking and questions one would ask to assert whether that person is at greater risk in regards to STI’s.
What questions is that not obvious ?
By talking to someone you get an understanding of their character and behaviour. Added to this their sexual preferences, how they operate being completely open with each other as starters
People’s character and behaviour can change, it can also be moulded to the person they are speaking to.
Promiscuous people at higher risk of infection who are careless in regards to protection, aren’t likely to have any warning signs that say they are, other than the obvious.
Well that’s where you have to be savvy and see through it. I personally don’t just jump into bed with anyone
If you’re not asking those questions before you get into bed with someone, as you say, there isn’t any signs, you are knowingly taking that risk.
I’m the same, I don’t just jump into bed with anyone.
However, that is my point. It’s a risk regardless, as unless we can by flies on a wall (if only), we will never truly know another persons sexual history!
Unfortunately it’s not a point you are making well ! The way you word your comments is making blanket statements about types of individuals and their behaviour and associated risk factor.
"I think you’ll find if you read my comments again, I didn’t refer to myself I said “people”. The “statements” I have made in regards to risk factor are online for all to read. It doesn’t mean I agree with it. | |||
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"Not what we believe but we think it's the spread of STDs. And maybe woman or couples are just not turned on by two men together. Sexual preferences? Sexual preferences is probably the predominant reason. Although being a bisexual Male means you are at a greater risk of STI’s, this likely influences people’s decisions too. "This excuse usual gets wheeled out, Bi sexual men are no more at risk than swingers. | |||
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"I wonder how many of those with preferences ever questioned themselves why they hold them? Of those who did.. whether their preference.. or boundaries changed afterwards? Do you question why you have preferences? I am a straight woman, so I prefer a straight man. That’s my reason. I like tall men, it doesn’t mean I’m against short men. Yes. All the time. I know straight women who like me. You being straight has nothing to do with not liking bi guys. That's not a reason. It's not against small guys if you pick the occasional one every now and again, because of his looks, body, personality. It kind of is if you won't even consider it. Doesn't really effect me in the slightest as I'm happy in myself. Doesn't stop me poking holes in other peoples theories about preference when used to defend something they struggle to explain. Just as, your opinion doesn’t affect me either. I don’t go for short guys regardless, because I’m not physically attracted to “shortness”. Equally I don’t go for bisexual men, because I want a straight man. Straight women liking you has nothing to do with me as I am my own person, as are they. I have a preference and I’m entitled to one. I don’t see any point in strangers on the internet questioning my preference, what will it achieve? I don’t struggle to explain my preference, I’ve just explained it. Maybe you don’t like the explanation. What Gemini Man said is 100% spot on.
It usually is, but he isn't always right. Nobody is.
Hey, I'm only using an example you gave. "I'm a straight woman, therefore I only want straight men". What does that make the straight women who do like bi men?
I ask, because there is no harm in getting people to question why they hold the views they do. A bit of soul searching isn't a bad thing.
So you are against short guys? Sexually speaking? Ok. I don't care why? I just wonder if you ever asked yourself why? I don't need/want an explanation.
Just questioning everyone who uses preference as an excuse without a little self investigation first.
Straight women who like bisexual men, are no different to myself apart from their preference.
I think you are getting confused, me saying I’m a straight woman so I want a straight man has no bearing on what other straight people do, it’s simply my preference. I would like to meet someone with the same sexual orientation as myself.
It seems to me, you don’t like that I or women may have this preference so rather than accept we are all different and go for different things, you want a direct explanation as to why people like what they like.
For example, there are men who only seek out slim women, men who only seek out BBW’s etc, have you ever questioned them as to why?
I’m not against short men, I’m simply not physically attracted to short men.
I’m not sure how you expect a physical attraction or preference to be questioned.
Do you question why you’re bisexual? Or why you’d prefer a female over a male? "Yes! I do. I've already answered that. I never asked you directly or indirectly, I made a statement that you pounced on, because it conflicts with your view. Like you've done to me before now. All I want is to encourage people who hold preferences to examinations them. Better you know yourself, happier you'll be. I accepted myself by following that very process. Now I'm happy and unaffected as to whether some women have isms about my height or sexuality. I'm just trying to bring an underlying topic to the fore front of forums mind. Preference vs Ism. Where do boundaries lie? Is it as big a deal as some people make it out to be? Why are some acceptable and others not? To question your own occasionally, because like you say... People change over time. Usually for the better. Experience is a hard teacher. | |||
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"Not what we believe but we think it's the spread of STDs. And maybe woman or couples are just not turned on by two men together. Sexual preferences? Sexual preferences is probably the predominant reason. Although being a bisexual Male means you are at a greater risk of STI’s, this likely influences people’s decisions too.
This excuse usual gets wheeled out, Bi sexual men are no more at risk than swingers. "You know you want it | |||
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"Not what we believe but we think it's the spread of STDs. And maybe woman or couples are just not turned on by two men together. Sexual preferences? Sexual preferences is probably the predominant reason. Although being a bisexual Male means you are at a greater risk of STI’s, this likely influences people’s decisions too.
This excuse usual gets wheeled out, Bi sexual men are no more at risk than swingers. "Well thats bullshit get your facts right! | |||
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"Not what we believe but we think it's the spread of STDs. And maybe woman or couples are just not turned on by two men together. Sexual preferences? Sexual preferences is probably the predominant reason. Although being a bisexual Male means you are at a greater risk of STI’s, this likely influences people’s decisions too.
This excuse usual gets wheeled out, Bi sexual men are no more at risk than swingers. "It's pathetic that there is a sexual risk factor hierarchy within the swinging world. Even if NHS statistics back it up.. anyone who has attended parties, clubs or been swinging a while.. knows the risk has to be pretty equal. Speaking from what I've witnessed from both sides of my sexuality. | |||
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"Not what we believe but we think it's the spread of STDs. And maybe woman or couples are just not turned on by two men together. Sexual preferences? Sexual preferences is probably the predominant reason. Although being a bisexual Male means you are at a greater risk of STI’s, this likely influences people’s decisions too.
This excuse usual gets wheeled out, Bi sexual men are no more at risk than swingers.
Well thats bullshit get your facts right! "Care to actually back up your statement, rather than just calling mine ‘bullshit’, when mine is actually correct ?! | |||
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"It's the same old argument.. when does preference become an 'ism? be it height, beard, sexuality, skin colour, weight, looks, voice, body? Language wise.. surely it's the point where you exclude based on one characteristic alone? To the exception of everything else. Beardist? Fattist? Racist? Some hold greater weight and greater connotation. To me.. excluding me based on my sexuality alone.. feels homophobic. I dont care, not crying about it, has no bearing on my day to day life, because I have some things I don't like about people, individual traits and characteristics. Can see it's all the same argument under many a roof. So I practice what GM preaches. I just like the right words used for right things. Preference is not an exclusionary word. I like corn based crisps, but have a preference for Skips. Is different than saying. I only eat Skips, because it's a preference. " Well you’re entitled to your opinion of course, is disagree with the homophobic label personally. Still the things I seek in people are my preference. | |||
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"Not what we believe but we think it's the spread of STDs. And maybe woman or couples are just not turned on by two men together. Sexual preferences? Sexual preferences is probably the predominant reason. Although being a bisexual Male means you are at a greater risk of STI’s, this likely influences people’s decisions too.
This excuse usual gets wheeled out, Bi sexual men are no more at risk than swingers.
Well thats bullshit get your facts right!
Care to actually back up your statement, rather than just calling mine ‘bullshit’, when mine is actually correct ?! "Bi men are far more likely to indulge in anal sex and as the anus isn't lubricated you get damage to the rectum with micro bleeds. Its well known in medical circles that receiving anal sex carried the highest risk of infection.
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"Would anybody like a cup of tea. I have no issue with bi or even gay men, it’s just when it gets rammed down your throat "Maybe you need to work on your gag reflex  | |||
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" I think you’ll find if you read my comments again, I didn’t refer to myself I said “people”. The “statements” I have made in regards to risk factor are online for all to read. It doesn’t mean I agree with it. " This is going off at a tangent slightly but the "risk factor" can equally be applied to a certain age group and also to swingers - so doesn't blanket apply to bisexual men only. It's up to each of us as individuals to be aware of that risk factor and take steps to mitigate against it - for me part of the discussion I have with anyone I meet will at some point include our attitude to sexual health from which I can usually make my own assessment of that risk factor. Either way my main point still stands that it's pointless fretting about other peoples preferences, or even questioning them - is a much more productive use of my time to focus on those whose preferences match my own. | |||
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"I wonder how many of those with preferences ever questioned themselves why they hold them? Of those who did.. whether their preference.. or boundaries changed afterwards? Do you question why you have preferences? I am a straight woman, so I prefer a straight man. That’s my reason. I like tall men, it doesn’t mean I’m against short men. Yes. All the time. I know straight women who like me. You being straight has nothing to do with not liking bi guys. That's not a reason. It's not against small guys if you pick the occasional one every now and again, because of his looks, body, personality. It kind of is if you won't even consider it. Doesn't really effect me in the slightest as I'm happy in myself. Doesn't stop me poking holes in other peoples theories about preference when used to defend something they struggle to explain. Just as, your opinion doesn’t affect me either. I don’t go for short guys regardless, because I’m not physically attracted to “shortness”. Equally I don’t go for bisexual men, because I want a straight man. Straight women liking you has nothing to do with me as I am my own person, as are they. I have a preference and I’m entitled to one. I don’t see any point in strangers on the internet questioning my preference, what will it achieve? I don’t struggle to explain my preference, I’ve just explained it. Maybe you don’t like the explanation. What Gemini Man said is 100% spot on.
It usually is, but he isn't always right. Nobody is.
Hey, I'm only using an example you gave. "I'm a straight woman, therefore I only want straight men". What does that make the straight women who do like bi men?
I ask, because there is no harm in getting people to question why they hold the views they do. A bit of soul searching isn't a bad thing.
So you are against short guys? Sexually speaking? Ok. I don't care why? I just wonder if you ever asked yourself why? I don't need/want an explanation.
Just questioning everyone who uses preference as an excuse without a little self investigation first.
Straight women who like bisexual men, are no different to myself apart from their preference.
I think you are getting confused, me saying I’m a straight woman so I want a straight man has no bearing on what other straight people do, it’s simply my preference. I would like to meet someone with the same sexual orientation as myself.
It seems to me, you don’t like that I or women may have this preference so rather than accept we are all different and go for different things, you want a direct explanation as to why people like what they like.
For example, there are men who only seek out slim women, men who only seek out BBW’s etc, have you ever questioned them as to why?
I’m not against short men, I’m simply not physically attracted to short men.
I’m not sure how you expect a physical attraction or preference to be questioned.
Do you question why you’re bisexual? Or why you’d prefer a female over a male?
Yes! I do. I've already answered that. I never asked you directly or indirectly, I made a statement that you pounced on, because it conflicts with your view. Like you've done to me before now.
All I want is to encourage people who hold preferences to examinations them. Better you know yourself, happier you'll be.
I accepted myself by following that very process. Now I'm happy and unaffected as to whether some women have isms about my height or sexuality.
I'm just trying to bring an underlying topic to the fore front of forums mind.
Preference vs Ism. Where do boundaries lie? Is it as big a deal as some people make it out to be? Why are some acceptable and others not? To question your own occasionally, because like you say...
People change over time. Usually for the better. Experience is a hard teacher."Pounced? I don’t think so. I’m intrigued by your view. I do wonder if you’re likely this vocal with straight women who actively seek out bisexual men rather than straight men though. | |||
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"Not what we believe but we think it's the spread of STDs. And maybe woman or couples are just not turned on by two men together. Sexual preferences? Sexual preferences is probably the predominant reason. Although being a bisexual Male means you are at a greater risk of STI’s, this likely influences people’s decisions too.
This excuse usual gets wheeled out, Bi sexual men are no more at risk than swingers.
Well thats bullshit get your facts right!
Care to actually back up your statement, rather than just calling mine ‘bullshit’, when mine is actually correct ?!
Bi men are far more likely to indulge in anal sex and as the anus isn't lubricated you get damage to the rectum with micro bleeds. Its well known in medical circles that receiving anal sex carried the highest risk of infection.
Care to comer up with a reason to back up your b/s!
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"It's like bi (for guys) may as well be called leper, what's the issue? Is it the increased potential competition? Worried they might think a man's better? " If you were a straight lady would you suck a cock that been up a man's arse. | |||
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"It really makes no difference to me if a guy is straight or bi if I'm attracted to him. I do have to say though that in my experience bisexual men are often more adventurous in bed and have less sexual hang ups. Men who have received anal before have often been much better at giving it too! Some straight men can be just as adventurous but then some are so scared of being gay they won't even touch pink things or eat pussy ."My god | |||
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" I think you’ll find if you read my comments again, I didn’t refer to myself I said “people”. The “statements” I have made in regards to risk factor are online for all to read. It doesn’t mean I agree with it. This is going off at a tangent slightly but the "risk factor" can equally be applied to a certain age group and also to swingers - so doesn't blanket apply to bisexual men only. It's up to each of us as individuals to be aware of that risk factor and take steps to mitigate against it - for me part of the discussion I have with anyone I meet will at some point include our attitude to sexual health from which I can usually make my own assessment of that risk factor. Either way my main point still stands that it's pointless fretting about other peoples preferences, or even questioning them - is a much more productive use of my time to focus on those whose preferences match my own." Absolutely. Hence why I included young people, and gay men in my statement. As it isn’t just bisexual men that the statement online is made about. I’m included in it too as a “young person”, but it really doesn’t bother me personally. | |||
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"Not what we believe but we think it's the spread of STDs. And maybe woman or couples are just not turned on by two men together. Sexual preferences? Sexual preferences is probably the predominant reason. Although being a bisexual Male means you are at a greater risk of STI’s, this likely influences people’s decisions too.
This excuse usual gets wheeled out, Bi sexual men are no more at risk than swingers.
Well thats bullshit get your facts right!
Care to actually back up your statement, rather than just calling mine ‘bullshit’, when mine is actually correct ?!
Bi men are far more likely to indulge in anal sex and as the anus isn't lubricated you get damage to the rectum with micro bleeds. Its well known in medical circles that receiving anal sex carried the highest risk of infection.
Care to comer up with a reason to back up your b/s!
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"It's like bi (for guys) may as well be called leper, what's the issue? Is it the increased potential competition? Worried they might think a man's better? If you were a straight lady would you suck a cock that been up a man's arse." Why is a man's arse different to a woman's? | |||
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"Not what we believe but we think it's the spread of STDs. And maybe woman or couples are just not turned on by two men together. Sexual preferences? Sexual preferences is probably the predominant reason. Although being a bisexual Male means you are at a greater risk of STI’s, this likely influences people’s decisions too.
This excuse usual gets wheeled out, Bi sexual men are no more at risk than swingers.
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"It really makes no difference to me if a guy is straight or bi if I'm attracted to him. I do have to say though that in my experience bisexual men are often more adventurous in bed and have less sexual hang ups. Men who have received anal before have often been much better at giving it too! Some straight men can be just as adventurous but then some are so scared of being gay they won't even touch pink things or eat pussy .
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"Not what we believe but we think it's the spread of STDs. And maybe woman or couples are just not turned on by two men together. Sexual preferences? Sexual preferences is probably the predominant reason. Although being a bisexual Male means you are at a greater risk of STI’s, this likely influences people’s decisions too.
This excuse usual gets wheeled out, Bi sexual men are no more at risk than swingers.
Well thats bullshit get your facts right!
Care to actually back up your statement, rather than just calling mine ‘bullshit’, when mine is actually correct ?!
Bi men are far more likely to indulge in anal sex and as the anus isn't lubricated you get damage to the rectum with micro bleeds. Its well known in medical circles that receiving anal sex carried the highest risk of infection.
Care to comer up with a reason to back up your b/s!
Can you actually make a comment on the forums without using the eye rolling emoji ? "Can you back up your B/S? Apparently not that's because its B/S! | |||
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"Statistics I have read show that bi men are more likely to carry certain STIs than the general populus. Whether active hetero swingers carry an equal risk I am not sure. I believe that some who consider their own sexual health may bar no men as a result. Other factors for sure but I believe that there is a stigma there " That is absolute crap. No offence meant | |||
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"Seeing that everyone is so caught up in numbers, can someone show me the statistics that say “most” women are “against” bi guys?" I want to see those too! I’ll wait patiently with you. | |||
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"I wonder how many of those with preferences ever questioned themselves why they hold them? Of those who did.. whether their preference.. or boundaries changed afterwards? Do you question why you have preferences? I am a straight woman, so I prefer a straight man. That’s my reason. I like tall men, it doesn’t mean I’m against short men. Yes. All the time. I know straight women who like me. You being straight has nothing to do with not liking bi guys. That's not a reason. It's not against small guys if you pick the occasional one every now and again, because of his looks, body, personality. It kind of is if you won't even consider it. Doesn't really effect me in the slightest as I'm happy in myself. Doesn't stop me poking holes in other peoples theories about preference when used to defend something they struggle to explain. Just as, your opinion doesn’t affect me either. I don’t go for short guys regardless, because I’m not physically attracted to “shortness”. Equally I don’t go for bisexual men, because I want a straight man. Straight women liking you has nothing to do with me as I am my own person, as are they. I have a preference and I’m entitled to one. I don’t see any point in strangers on the internet questioning my preference, what will it achieve? I don’t struggle to explain my preference, I’ve just explained it. Maybe you don’t like the explanation. What Gemini Man said is 100% spot on.
It usually is, but he isn't always right. Nobody is.
Hey, I'm only using an example you gave. "I'm a straight woman, therefore I only want straight men". What does that make the straight women who do like bi men?
I ask, because there is no harm in getting people to question why they hold the views they do. A bit of soul searching isn't a bad thing.
So you are against short guys? Sexually speaking? Ok. I don't care why? I just wonder if you ever asked yourself why? I don't need/want an explanation.
Just questioning everyone who uses preference as an excuse without a little self investigation first.
Straight women who like bisexual men, are no different to myself apart from their preference.
I think you are getting confused, me saying I’m a straight woman so I want a straight man has no bearing on what other straight people do, it’s simply my preference. I would like to meet someone with the same sexual orientation as myself.
It seems to me, you don’t like that I or women may have this preference so rather than accept we are all different and go for different things, you want a direct explanation as to why people like what they like.
For example, there are men who only seek out slim women, men who only seek out BBW’s etc, have you ever questioned them as to why?
I’m not against short men, I’m simply not physically attracted to short men.
I’m not sure how you expect a physical attraction or preference to be questioned.
Do you question why you’re bisexual? Or why you’d prefer a female over a male?
Yes! I do. I've already answered that. I never asked you directly or indirectly, I made a statement that you pounced on, because it conflicts with your view. Like you've done to me before now.
All I want is to encourage people who hold preferences to examinations them. Better you know yourself, happier you'll be.
I accepted myself by following that very process. Now I'm happy and unaffected as to whether some women have isms about my height or sexuality.
I'm just trying to bring an underlying topic to the fore front of forums mind.
Preference vs Ism. Where do boundaries lie? Is it as big a deal as some people make it out to be? Why are some acceptable and others not? To question your own occasionally, because like you say...
People change over time. Usually for the better. Experience is a hard teacher.
Pounced? I don’t think so.
I’m intrigued by your view.
I do wonder if you’re likely this vocal with straight women who actively seek out bisexual men rather than straight men though. "I'm not. This one is more personal to me, because it's the only real form of discrimination I've ever really faced. Fortunately at a time in my life where I give zero fucks about it. I'm just trying to pass on my limited experience. | |||
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"Not what we believe but we think it's the spread of STDs. And maybe woman or couples are just not turned on by two men together. Sexual preferences? Sexual preferences is probably the predominant reason. Although being a bisexual Male means you are at a greater risk of STI’s, this likely influences people’s decisions too.
This excuse usual gets wheeled out, Bi sexual men are no more at risk than swingers.
Well thats bullshit get your facts right!
Care to actually back up your statement, rather than just calling mine ‘bullshit’, when mine is actually correct ?!
Bi men are far more likely to indulge in anal sex and as the anus isn't lubricated you get damage to the rectum with micro bleeds. Its well known in medical circles that receiving anal sex carried the highest risk of infection.
Care to comer up with a reason to back up your b/s!
Can you actually make a comment on the forums without using the eye rolling emoji ?
Can you back up your B/S? Apparently not that's because its B/S! "Here you go: ‘A Dutch study has found that swingers -- heterosexual adults who engage in partner swapping or attend sex clubs for couples -- have rates of sexually transmitted diseases comparable to gay or bisexual men, both considered high-risk groups for catching herpes, HIV and chlamydia, among other infections.’ If flattered you only come on the forums to reply to me though. | |||
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"Statistics I have read show that bi men are more likely to carry certain STIs than the general populus. Whether active hetero swingers carry an equal risk I am not sure. I believe that some who consider their own sexual health may bar no men as a result. Other factors for sure but I believe that there is a stigma there That is absolute crap. No offence meant " I’m not saying the above statement is right or wrong as my experience in the area is minimal, but I will say the amount of messages I get in the line of “come, my door is unlocked, my ass up and ready for you to pump your cum in me” is from gay/bi guys and it’s on a daily basis.. They could at least offer a cup of tea too | |||
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"Not what we believe but we think it's the spread of STDs. And maybe woman or couples are just not turned on by two men together. Sexual preferences? Sexual preferences is probably the predominant reason. Although being a bisexual Male means you are at a greater risk of STI’s, this likely influences people’s decisions too.
This excuse usual gets wheeled out, Bi sexual men are no more at risk than swingers.
Well thats bullshit get your facts right!
Care to actually back up your statement, rather than just calling mine ‘bullshit’, when mine is actually correct ?!
Bi men are far more likely to indulge in anal sex and as the anus isn't lubricated you get damage to the rectum with micro bleeds. Its well known in medical circles that receiving anal sex carried the highest risk of infection.
Care to comer up with a reason to back up your b/s!
Can you actually make a comment on the forums without using the eye rolling emoji ?
Can you back up your B/S? Apparently not that's because its B/S!
Here you go:
‘A Dutch study has found that swingers -- heterosexual adults who engage in partner swapping or attend sex clubs for couples -- have rates of sexually transmitted diseases comparable to gay or bisexual men, both considered high-risk groups for catching herpes, HIV and chlamydia, among other infections.’
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"It's like bi (for guys) may as well be called leper, what's the issue? Is it the increased potential competition? Worried they might think a man's better? If you were a straight lady would you suck a cock that been up a man's arse." Will it get a rinse first? | |||
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"Not what we believe but we think it's the spread of STDs. And maybe woman or couples are just not turned on by two men together. Sexual preferences? Sexual preferences is probably the predominant reason. Although being a bisexual Male means you are at a greater risk of STI’s, this likely influences people’s decisions too.
This excuse usual gets wheeled out, Bi sexual men are no more at risk than swingers.
Well thats bullshit get your facts right!
Care to actually back up your statement, rather than just calling mine ‘bullshit’, when mine is actually correct ?!
Bi men are far more likely to indulge in anal sex and as the anus isn't lubricated you get damage to the rectum with micro bleeds. Its well known in medical circles that receiving anal sex carried the highest risk of infection.
Care to comer up with a reason to back up your b/s!
Can you actually make a comment on the forums without using the eye rolling emoji ?
Can you back up your B/S? Apparently not that's because its B/S!
Here you go:
‘A Dutch study has found that swingers -- heterosexual adults who engage in partner swapping or attend sex clubs for couples -- have rates of sexually transmitted diseases comparable to gay or bisexual men, both considered high-risk groups for catching herpes, HIV and chlamydia, among other infections.’
If flattered you only come on the forums to reply to me though. "Tame.. you're officially allowed to use 'Fabstraight' in my eyes again without an eye roll from me. I apologise for riding you over it. *Ghengis tips his hat* | |||
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"Not what we believe but we think it's the spread of STDs. And maybe woman or couples are just not turned on by two men together. Sexual preferences? Sexual preferences is probably the predominant reason. Although being a bisexual Male means you are at a greater risk of STI’s, this likely influences people’s decisions too.
This excuse usual gets wheeled out, Bi sexual men are no more at risk than swingers.
Well thats bullshit get your facts right!
Care to actually back up your statement, rather than just calling mine ‘bullshit’, when mine is actually correct ?!
Bi men are far more likely to indulge in anal sex and as the anus isn't lubricated you get damage to the rectum with micro bleeds. Its well known in medical circles that receiving anal sex carried the highest risk of infection.
Care to comer up with a reason to back up your b/s!
Can you actually make a comment on the forums without using the eye rolling emoji ?
Can you back up your B/S? Apparently not that's because its B/S!
Here you go:
‘A Dutch study has found that swingers -- heterosexual adults who engage in partner swapping or attend sex clubs for couples -- have rates of sexually transmitted diseases comparable to gay or bisexual men, both considered high-risk groups for catching herpes, HIV and chlamydia, among other infections.’
If flattered you only come on the forums to reply to me though.
Tame.. you're officially allowed to use 'Fabstraight' in my eyes again without an eye roll from me. I apologise for riding you over it.
*Ghengis tips his hat*"I’m just looking forward to her reply, I would put the link up, but I’m shit with technology. | |||
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" Here you go: ‘A Dutch study has found that swingers -- heterosexual adults who engage in partner swapping or attend sex clubs for couples -- have rates of sexually transmitted diseases comparable to gay or bisexual men, both considered high-risk groups for catching herpes, HIV and chlamydia, among other infections.’ " Now everyone go back to their corners and stop belittling certain sectors for being worst than others ! | |||
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"I wonder how many of those with preferences ever questioned themselves why they hold them? Of those who did.. whether their preference.. or boundaries changed afterwards? Do you question why you have preferences? I am a straight woman, so I prefer a straight man. That’s my reason. I like tall men, it doesn’t mean I’m against short men. Yes. All the time. I know straight women who like me. You being straight has nothing to do with not liking bi guys. That's not a reason. It's not against small guys if you pick the occasional one every now and again, because of his looks, body, personality. It kind of is if you won't even consider it. Doesn't really effect me in the slightest as I'm happy in myself. Doesn't stop me poking holes in other peoples theories about preference when used to defend something they struggle to explain. Just as, your opinion doesn’t affect me either. I don’t go for short guys regardless, because I’m not physically attracted to “shortness”. Equally I don’t go for bisexual men, because I want a straight man. Straight women liking you has nothing to do with me as I am my own person, as are they. I have a preference and I’m entitled to one. I don’t see any point in strangers on the internet questioning my preference, what will it achieve? I don’t struggle to explain my preference, I’ve just explained it. Maybe you don’t like the explanation. What Gemini Man said is 100% spot on.
It usually is, but he isn't always right. Nobody is.
Hey, I'm only using an example you gave. "I'm a straight woman, therefore I only want straight men". What does that make the straight women who do like bi men?
I ask, because there is no harm in getting people to question why they hold the views they do. A bit of soul searching isn't a bad thing.
So you are against short guys? Sexually speaking? Ok. I don't care why? I just wonder if you ever asked yourself why? I don't need/want an explanation.
Just questioning everyone who uses preference as an excuse without a little self investigation first.
Straight women who like bisexual men, are no different to myself apart from their preference.
I think you are getting confused, me saying I’m a straight woman so I want a straight man has no bearing on what other straight people do, it’s simply my preference. I would like to meet someone with the same sexual orientation as myself.
It seems to me, you don’t like that I or women may have this preference so rather than accept we are all different and go for different things, you want a direct explanation as to why people like what they like.
For example, there are men who only seek out slim women, men who only seek out BBW’s etc, have you ever questioned them as to why?
I’m not against short men, I’m simply not physically attracted to short men.
I’m not sure how you expect a physical attraction or preference to be questioned.
Do you question why you’re bisexual? Or why you’d prefer a female over a male?
Yes! I do. I've already answered that. I never asked you directly or indirectly, I made a statement that you pounced on, because it conflicts with your view. Like you've done to me before now.
All I want is to encourage people who hold preferences to examinations them. Better you know yourself, happier you'll be.
I accepted myself by following that very process. Now I'm happy and unaffected as to whether some women have isms about my height or sexuality.
I'm just trying to bring an underlying topic to the fore front of forums mind.
Preference vs Ism. Where do boundaries lie? Is it as big a deal as some people make it out to be? Why are some acceptable and others not? To question your own occasionally, because like you say...
People change over time. Usually for the better. Experience is a hard teacher.
Pounced? I don’t think so.
I’m intrigued by your view.
I do wonder if you’re likely this vocal with straight women who actively seek out bisexual men rather than straight men though.
I'm not. This one is more personal to me, because it's the only real form of discrimination I've ever really faced.
Fortunately at a time in my life where I give zero fucks about it.
I'm just trying to pass on my limited experience.
"Can you elaborate on what you mean by trying to pass on your limited experience? Discrimination happens in all forms both on here and in the real world. I’ve been discriminated against as a black woman both on here and in the real world, I take it as it is. On here I understand people’s have preference and their own reasons, it couldn’t be for the wrong reasons or it could be innocent. But I tend to focus on those who are interested in me rather than not, personally! I think everyone should be free to politely state their preference. | |||
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"Not what we believe but we think it's the spread of STDs. And maybe woman or couples are just not turned on by two men together. Sexual preferences? Sexual preferences is probably the predominant reason. Although being a bisexual Male means you are at a greater risk of STI’s, this likely influences people’s decisions too.
This excuse usual gets wheeled out, Bi sexual men are no more at risk than swingers.
Well thats bullshit get your facts right!
Care to actually back up your statement, rather than just calling mine ‘bullshit’, when mine is actually correct ?!
Bi men are far more likely to indulge in anal sex and as the anus isn't lubricated you get damage to the rectum with micro bleeds. Its well known in medical circles that receiving anal sex carried the highest risk of infection.
Care to comer up with a reason to back up your b/s!
Can you actually make a comment on the forums without using the eye rolling emoji ?
Can you back up your B/S? Apparently not that's because its B/S!
Here you go:
‘A Dutch study has found that swingers -- heterosexual adults who engage in partner swapping or attend sex clubs for couples -- have rates of sexually transmitted diseases comparable to gay or bisexual men, both considered high-risk groups for catching herpes, HIV and chlamydia, among other infections.’
If flattered you only come on the forums to reply to me though. "Thats not comparing heterosexual makes to bi males and its a small sample you need to try harder or go check what the GMC says. Also more b/s and the green tick says different. | |||
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"Not into men who also like men. Dont like the thought of him having his cock inside another mans bumhole just not my thing! " What if it's only been in another man's mouth? | |||
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"Not what we believe but we think it's the spread of STDs. And maybe woman or couples are just not turned on by two men together. Sexual preferences? Sexual preferences is probably the predominant reason. Although being a bisexual Male means you are at a greater risk of STI’s, this likely influences people’s decisions too.
This excuse usual gets wheeled out, Bi sexual men are no more at risk than swingers.
Well thats bullshit get your facts right!
Care to actually back up your statement, rather than just calling mine ‘bullshit’, when mine is actually correct ?!
Bi men are far more likely to indulge in anal sex and as the anus isn't lubricated you get damage to the rectum with micro bleeds. Its well known in medical circles that receiving anal sex carried the highest risk of infection.
Care to comer up with a reason to back up your b/s!
Can you actually make a comment on the forums without using the eye rolling emoji ?
Can you back up your B/S? Apparently not that's because its B/S!
Here you go:
‘A Dutch study has found that swingers -- heterosexual adults who engage in partner swapping or attend sex clubs for couples -- have rates of sexually transmitted diseases comparable to gay or bisexual men, both considered high-risk groups for catching herpes, HIV and chlamydia, among other infections.’
If flattered you only come on the forums to reply to me though.
Tame.. you're officially allowed to use 'Fabstraight' in my eyes again without an eye roll from me. I apologise for riding you over it.
*Ghengis tips his hat*
I’m just looking forward to her reply, I would put the link up, but I’m shit with technology. "How many other websites have you checked? | |||
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"Thanks all for your input, it means I cross 1 potential issue off I guess, as conversations usually end when I send a face pic I will have to assume its something else. Thanks again for all your input" There is nothing wrong with asking questions on here about things that frustrate you however I presume you want honest points of view and facts as to why some people do decline for some reasons. In reality it will be a small percentage in reality who will decline just on one thing. | |||
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"Not what we believe but we think it's the spread of STDs. And maybe woman or couples are just not turned on by two men together. Sexual preferences? Sexual preferences is probably the predominant reason. Although being a bisexual Male means you are at a greater risk of STI’s, this likely influences people’s decisions too.
This excuse usual gets wheeled out, Bi sexual men are no more at risk than swingers.
Well thats bullshit get your facts right!
Care to actually back up your statement, rather than just calling mine ‘bullshit’, when mine is actually correct ?!
Bi men are far more likely to indulge in anal sex and as the anus isn't lubricated you get damage to the rectum with micro bleeds. Its well known in medical circles that receiving anal sex carried the highest risk of infection.
Care to comer up with a reason to back up your b/s!
Can you actually make a comment on the forums without using the eye rolling emoji ?
Can you back up your B/S? Apparently not that's because its B/S!
Here you go:
‘A Dutch study has found that swingers -- heterosexual adults who engage in partner swapping or attend sex clubs for couples -- have rates of sexually transmitted diseases comparable to gay or bisexual men, both considered high-risk groups for catching herpes, HIV and chlamydia, among other infections.’
If flattered you only come on the forums to reply to me though.
Tame.. you're officially allowed to use 'Fabstraight' in my eyes again without an eye roll from me. I apologise for riding you over it.
*Ghengis tips his hat*
I’m just looking forward to her reply, I would put the link up, but I’m shit with technology.
How many other websites have you checked?"End of the day we're talking about a relatively small figure like.. one in 8 bi men you sleep with may be at risk. Compared to 1 in 9 Females in a couple. Pretty pathetic thing to use an excuse to discriminate over. I pulled those figures out of the air.. but you get my drift. It's hard to argue and gets silly when you do. I've been asked to take a condom off by a few women. Never had a man ask. So I'm being fair. | |||
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"Not what we believe but we think it's the spread of STDs. And maybe woman or couples are just not turned on by two men together. Sexual preferences? Sexual preferences is probably the predominant reason. Although being a bisexual Male means you are at a greater risk of STI’s, this likely influences people’s decisions too.
This excuse usual gets wheeled out, Bi sexual men are no more at risk than swingers.
Well thats bullshit get your facts right!
Care to actually back up your statement, rather than just calling mine ‘bullshit’, when mine is actually correct ?!
Bi men are far more likely to indulge in anal sex and as the anus isn't lubricated you get damage to the rectum with micro bleeds. Its well known in medical circles that receiving anal sex carried the highest risk of infection.
Care to comer up with a reason to back up your b/s!
Can you actually make a comment on the forums without using the eye rolling emoji ?
Can you back up your B/S? Apparently not that's because its B/S!
Here you go:
‘A Dutch study has found that swingers -- heterosexual adults who engage in partner swapping or attend sex clubs for couples -- have rates of sexually transmitted diseases comparable to gay or bisexual men, both considered high-risk groups for catching herpes, HIV and chlamydia, among other infections.’
If flattered you only come on the forums to reply to me though.
Tame.. you're officially allowed to use 'Fabstraight' in my eyes again without an eye roll from me. I apologise for riding you over it.
*Ghengis tips his hat*
I’m just looking forward to her reply, I would put the link up, but I’m shit with technology.
How many other websites have you checked?
End of the day we're talking about a relatively small figure like.. one in 8 bi men you sleep with may be at risk. Compared to 1 in 9 Females in a couple.
Pretty pathetic thing to use an excuse to discriminate over.
I pulled those figures out of the air.. but you get my drift. It's hard to argue and gets silly when you do.
I've been asked to take a condom off by a few women. Never had a man ask. So I'm being fair. "I was just wondering how much research Tame had done. | |||
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"My honest answer, when you go to the GUM clinic they ask you if you've been with any bi guys as they're statistically higher infection carriers. You also get offered hep injections This will if course have an impact. P" That's false I work in hosipital which has a gum clinic and 87% of the 103,000 people in UK with HIV are heterosexual as most gay and bi guys are on prep and most use condoms dont know what clinic you been going to thier was even a poster up with the stats | |||
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"Not what we believe but we think it's the spread of STDs. And maybe woman or couples are just not turned on by two men together. Sexual preferences? Sexual preferences is probably the predominant reason. Although being a bisexual Male means you are at a greater risk of STI’s, this likely influences people’s decisions too.
This excuse usual gets wheeled out, Bi sexual men are no more at risk than swingers.
Well thats bullshit get your facts right!
Care to actually back up your statement, rather than just calling mine ‘bullshit’, when mine is actually correct ?!
Bi men are far more likely to indulge in anal sex and as the anus isn't lubricated you get damage to the rectum with micro bleeds. Its well known in medical circles that receiving anal sex carried the highest risk of infection.
Care to comer up with a reason to back up your b/s!
Can you actually make a comment on the forums without using the eye rolling emoji ?
Can you back up your B/S? Apparently not that's because its B/S!
Here you go:
‘A Dutch study has found that swingers -- heterosexual adults who engage in partner swapping or attend sex clubs for couples -- have rates of sexually transmitted diseases comparable to gay or bisexual men, both considered high-risk groups for catching herpes, HIV and chlamydia, among other infections.’
If flattered you only come on the forums to reply to me though.
Tame.. you're officially allowed to use 'Fabstraight' in my eyes again without an eye roll from me. I apologise for riding you over it.
*Ghengis tips his hat*
I’m just looking forward to her reply, I would put the link up, but I’m shit with technology.
How many other websites have you checked?
End of the day we're talking about a relatively small figure like.. one in 8 bi men you sleep with may be at risk. Compared to 1 in 9 Females in a couple.
Pretty pathetic thing to use an excuse to discriminate over.
I pulled those figures out of the air.. but you get my drift. It's hard to argue and gets silly when you do.
I've been asked to take a condom off by a few women. Never had a man ask. So I'm being fair.
I was just wondering how much research Tame had done."I'm glad to see he cared enough to comment. AndI agree with what he's saying so I don't really care. The difference in risk, as I've witnessed it, would probably put swinging couples, many of whom are bi when wet.. male and female alike. Many of whom dont disclose it on their profile. Women seem to dislike condoms as much as men... Would put us all on the same level.. Leaving it down to good judgement, precautions and luck on an individual basis. | |||
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"Not what we believe but we think it's the spread of STDs. And maybe woman or couples are just not turned on by two men together. Sexual preferences? Sexual preferences is probably the predominant reason. Although being a bisexual Male means you are at a greater risk of STI’s, this likely influences people’s decisions too.
This excuse usual gets wheeled out, Bi sexual men are no more at risk than swingers.
Well thats bullshit get your facts right!
Care to actually back up your statement, rather than just calling mine ‘bullshit’, when mine is actually correct ?!
Bi men are far more likely to indulge in anal sex and as the anus isn't lubricated you get damage to the rectum with micro bleeds. Its well known in medical circles that receiving anal sex carried the highest risk of infection.
Care to comer up with a reason to back up your b/s!
Can you actually make a comment on the forums without using the eye rolling emoji ?
Can you back up your B/S? Apparently not that's because its B/S!
Here you go:
‘A Dutch study has found that swingers -- heterosexual adults who engage in partner swapping or attend sex clubs for couples -- have rates of sexually transmitted diseases comparable to gay or bisexual men, both considered high-risk groups for catching herpes, HIV and chlamydia, among other infections.’
If flattered you only come on the forums to reply to me though.
Tame.. you're officially allowed to use 'Fabstraight' in my eyes again without an eye roll from me. I apologise for riding you over it.
*Ghengis tips his hat*
I’m just looking forward to her reply, I would put the link up, but I’m shit with technology.
How many other websites have you checked?
End of the day we're talking about a relatively small figure like.. one in 8 bi men you sleep with may be at risk. Compared to 1 in 9 Females in a couple.
Pretty pathetic thing to use an excuse to discriminate over.
I pulled those figures out of the air.. but you get my drift. It's hard to argue and gets silly when you do.
I've been asked to take a condom off by a few women. Never had a man ask. So I'm being fair.
I was just wondering how much research Tame had done.
I'm glad to see he cared enough to comment. AndI agree with what he's saying so I don't really care.
The difference in risk, as I've witnessed it, would probably put swinging couples, many of whom are bi when wet.. male and female alike. Many of whom dont disclose it on their profile. Women seem to dislike condoms as much as men...
Would put us all on the same level..
Leaving it down to good judgement, precautions and luck on an individual basis.
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"Seeing that everyone is so caught up in numbers, can someone show me the statistics that say “most” women are “against” bi guys? I want to see those too! I’ll wait patiently with you. "Still waiting.. because really, if it can’t be, then the whole thread can just go in the bin as fake news | |||
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"Not what we believe but we think it's the spread of STDs. And maybe woman or couples are just not turned on by two men together. Sexual preferences? Sexual preferences is probably the predominant reason. Although being a bisexual Male means you are at a greater risk of STI’s, this likely influences people’s decisions too.
This excuse usual gets wheeled out, Bi sexual men are no more at risk than swingers.
Well thats bullshit get your facts right!
Care to actually back up your statement, rather than just calling mine ‘bullshit’, when mine is actually correct ?!
Bi men are far more likely to indulge in anal sex and as the anus isn't lubricated you get damage to the rectum with micro bleeds. Its well known in medical circles that receiving anal sex carried the highest risk of infection.
Care to comer up with a reason to back up your b/s!
Can you actually make a comment on the forums without using the eye rolling emoji ?
Can you back up your B/S? Apparently not that's because its B/S!
Here you go:
‘A Dutch study has found that swingers -- heterosexual adults who engage in partner swapping or attend sex clubs for couples -- have rates of sexually transmitted diseases comparable to gay or bisexual men, both considered high-risk groups for catching herpes, HIV and chlamydia, among other infections.’
If flattered you only come on the forums to reply to me though.
Tame.. you're officially allowed to use 'Fabstraight' in my eyes again without an eye roll from me. I apologise for riding you over it.
*Ghengis tips his hat*
I’m just looking forward to her reply, I would put the link up, but I’m shit with technology.
How many other websites have you checked?
End of the day we're talking about a relatively small figure like.. one in 8 bi men you sleep with may be at risk. Compared to 1 in 9 Females in a couple.
Pretty pathetic thing to use an excuse to discriminate over.
I pulled those figures out of the air.. but you get my drift. It's hard to argue and gets silly when you do.
I've been asked to take a condom off by a few women. Never had a man ask. So I'm being fair.
I was just wondering how much research Tame had done.
I'm glad to see he cared enough to comment. AndI agree with what he's saying so I don't really care.
The difference in risk, as I've witnessed it, would probably put swinging couples, many of whom are bi when wet.. male and female alike. Many of whom dont disclose it on their profile. Women seem to dislike condoms as much as men...
Would put us all on the same level..
Leaving it down to good judgement, precautions and luck on an individual basis.
I'm just looking forward to Tame's reply."It’s on the way, I’m just doing the first volume now. | |||
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"Not what we believe but we think it's the spread of STDs. And maybe woman or couples are just not turned on by two men together. Sexual preferences? Sexual preferences is probably the predominant reason. Although being a bisexual Male means you are at a greater risk of STI’s, this likely influences people’s decisions too.
This excuse usual gets wheeled out, Bi sexual men are no more at risk than swingers.
Well thats bullshit get your facts right!
Care to actually back up your statement, rather than just calling mine ‘bullshit’, when mine is actually correct ?!
Bi men are far more likely to indulge in anal sex and as the anus isn't lubricated you get damage to the rectum with micro bleeds. Its well known in medical circles that receiving anal sex carried the highest risk of infection.
Care to comer up with a reason to back up your b/s!
Can you actually make a comment on the forums without using the eye rolling emoji ?
Can you back up your B/S? Apparently not that's because its B/S!
Here you go:
‘A Dutch study has found that swingers -- heterosexual adults who engage in partner swapping or attend sex clubs for couples -- have rates of sexually transmitted diseases comparable to gay or bisexual men, both considered high-risk groups for catching herpes, HIV and chlamydia, among other infections.’
If flattered you only come on the forums to reply to me though.
Tame.. you're officially allowed to use 'Fabstraight' in my eyes again without an eye roll from me. I apologise for riding you over it.
*Ghengis tips his hat*
I’m just looking forward to her reply, I would put the link up, but I’m shit with technology.
How many other websites have you checked?
End of the day we're talking about a relatively small figure like.. one in 8 bi men you sleep with may be at risk. Compared to 1 in 9 Females in a couple.
Pretty pathetic thing to use an excuse to discriminate over.
I pulled those figures out of the air.. but you get my drift. It's hard to argue and gets silly when you do.
I've been asked to take a condom off by a few women. Never had a man ask. So I'm being fair.
I was just wondering how much research Tame had done.
I'm glad to see he cared enough to comment. AndI agree with what he's saying so I don't really care.
The difference in risk, as I've witnessed it, would probably put swinging couples, many of whom are bi when wet.. male and female alike. Many of whom dont disclose it on their profile. Women seem to dislike condoms as much as men...
Would put us all on the same level..
Leaving it down to good judgement, precautions and luck on an individual basis.
"Interesting about the condom thing do you reckon bi men are more responsible then than (some) women, when it comes down to business, just because of this perceived greater risk. Making them actually safer to be with | |||
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"Not what we believe but we think it's the spread of STDs. And maybe woman or couples are just not turned on by two men together. Sexual preferences? Sexual preferences is probably the predominant reason. Although being a bisexual Male means you are at a greater risk of STI’s, this likely influences people’s decisions too.
This excuse usual gets wheeled out, Bi sexual men are no more at risk than swingers.
Well thats bullshit get your facts right!
Care to actually back up your statement, rather than just calling mine ‘bullshit’, when mine is actually correct ?!
Bi men are far more likely to indulge in anal sex and as the anus isn't lubricated you get damage to the rectum with micro bleeds. Its well known in medical circles that receiving anal sex carried the highest risk of infection.
Care to comer up with a reason to back up your b/s!
Can you actually make a comment on the forums without using the eye rolling emoji ?
Can you back up your B/S? Apparently not that's because its B/S!
Here you go:
‘A Dutch study has found that swingers -- heterosexual adults who engage in partner swapping or attend sex clubs for couples -- have rates of sexually transmitted diseases comparable to gay or bisexual men, both considered high-risk groups for catching herpes, HIV and chlamydia, among other infections.’
If flattered you only come on the forums to reply to me though.
Tame.. you're officially allowed to use 'Fabstraight' in my eyes again without an eye roll from me. I apologise for riding you over it.
*Ghengis tips his hat*
I’m just looking forward to her reply, I would put the link up, but I’m shit with technology.
How many other websites have you checked?
End of the day we're talking about a relatively small figure like.. one in 8 bi men you sleep with may be at risk. Compared to 1 in 9 Females in a couple.
Pretty pathetic thing to use an excuse to discriminate over.
I pulled those figures out of the air.. but you get my drift. It's hard to argue and gets silly when you do.
I've been asked to take a condom off by a few women. Never had a man ask. So I'm being fair.
I was just wondering how much research Tame had done.
I'm glad to see he cared enough to comment. AndI agree with what he's saying so I don't really care.
The difference in risk, as I've witnessed it, would probably put swinging couples, many of whom are bi when wet.. male and female alike. Many of whom dont disclose it on their profile. Women seem to dislike condoms as much as men...
Would put us all on the same level..
Leaving it down to good judgement, precautions and luck on an individual basis.
I'm just looking forward to Tame's reply.
It’s on the way, I’m just doing the first volume now."Good research everyone. | |||
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"Not what we believe but we think it's the spread of STDs. And maybe woman or couples are just not turned on by two men together. Sexual preferences? Sexual preferences is probably the predominant reason. Although being a bisexual Male means you are at a greater risk of STI’s, this likely influences people’s decisions too.
This excuse usual gets wheeled out, Bi sexual men are no more at risk than swingers.
Well thats bullshit get your facts right!
Care to actually back up your statement, rather than just calling mine ‘bullshit’, when mine is actually correct ?!
Bi men are far more likely to indulge in anal sex and as the anus isn't lubricated you get damage to the rectum with micro bleeds. Its well known in medical circles that receiving anal sex carried the highest risk of infection.
Care to comer up with a reason to back up your b/s!
Can you actually make a comment on the forums without using the eye rolling emoji ?
Can you back up your B/S? Apparently not that's because its B/S!
Here you go:
‘A Dutch study has found that swingers -- heterosexual adults who engage in partner swapping or attend sex clubs for couples -- have rates of sexually transmitted diseases comparable to gay or bisexual men, both considered high-risk groups for catching herpes, HIV and chlamydia, among other infections.’
If flattered you only come on the forums to reply to me though.
Tame.. you're officially allowed to use 'Fabstraight' in my eyes again without an eye roll from me. I apologise for riding you over it.
*Ghengis tips his hat*
I’m just looking forward to her reply, I would put the link up, but I’m shit with technology.
How many other websites have you checked?
End of the day we're talking about a relatively small figure like.. one in 8 bi men you sleep with may be at risk. Compared to 1 in 9 Females in a couple.
Pretty pathetic thing to use an excuse to discriminate over.
I pulled those figures out of the air.. but you get my drift. It's hard to argue and gets silly when you do.
I've been asked to take a condom off by a few women. Never had a man ask. So I'm being fair.
I was just wondering how much research Tame had done."I looked at one website on my tea break. | |||
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"@Brownxsugar (Trying to cut down wall of text) I've had discriminatory views I've worked through and overcome. Is it so hard to want the same for others. I'm not looking down on you for view you hold. I just think it's a bit sad we could potentially be friends, get along nicely, be attracted... yet the moment you'd find out I was bi, it'd change in a flash. So I'm driven to speak for the men like me who aren't completey unsafe whores, are masculine. To prove there exceptions to every stereotype. So can we leave it at that? You have your view, but you've questioned it by debating with me. Perhaps solidified your opinion, or maybe I've laid a brain worm for you to dwell on later in life. Just because there IS discrimination, doesn't mean it shouldn't go unchallenged because the situation has changed. I'm not telling people who to sleep with.. or calling them anything. Just to occasionally soul search. " I understand what you’re saying. However I think you’re assuming that I completely write someone off if it turns out they’re bisexual, which I don’t think would be the case. Maybe I haven’t explained properly. As I said, I am a straight woman and I seek a straight man. However, if there was to be a man who I felt was 100% what I was looking for (let’s use you as an example) and you stated you were bisexual, I wouldn’t just write you off, because your orientation isn’t the biggest deal in the world. However I’ve not been with a bisexual man (I assume it’s not that different) so it would be a whole new experience for me. I seek out what I seek out, however if someone ticks all the boxes and happens to have a different sexual orientation to myself for example, I may well change my mind. I don’t know for sure, as I haven’t been in the situation. I guess it’s different to physical attraction where I wouldn’t be physically attracted to a short guy at all. Hope that makes sense! Maybe it is a case of, when I am faced with the situation my preferences or likes may well change. Who knows! | |||
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"Not what we believe but we think it's the spread of STDs. And maybe woman or couples are just not turned on by two men together. Sexual preferences? Sexual preferences is probably the predominant reason. Although being a bisexual Male means you are at a greater risk of STI’s, this likely influences people’s decisions too.
This excuse usual gets wheeled out, Bi sexual men are no more at risk than swingers.
Well thats bullshit get your facts right!
Care to actually back up your statement, rather than just calling mine ‘bullshit’, when mine is actually correct ?!
Bi men are far more likely to indulge in anal sex and as the anus isn't lubricated you get damage to the rectum with micro bleeds. Its well known in medical circles that receiving anal sex carried the highest risk of infection.
Care to comer up with a reason to back up your b/s!
Can you actually make a comment on the forums without using the eye rolling emoji ?
Can you back up your B/S? Apparently not that's because its B/S!
Here you go:
‘A Dutch study has found that swingers -- heterosexual adults who engage in partner swapping or attend sex clubs for couples -- have rates of sexually transmitted diseases comparable to gay or bisexual men, both considered high-risk groups for catching herpes, HIV and chlamydia, among other infections.’
If flattered you only come on the forums to reply to me though.
Tame.. you're officially allowed to use 'Fabstraight' in my eyes again without an eye roll from me. I apologise for riding you over it.
*Ghengis tips his hat*
I’m just looking forward to her reply, I would put the link up, but I’m shit with technology.
How many other websites have you checked?
End of the day we're talking about a relatively small figure like.. one in 8 bi men you sleep with may be at risk. Compared to 1 in 9 Females in a couple.
Pretty pathetic thing to use an excuse to discriminate over.
I pulled those figures out of the air.. but you get my drift. It's hard to argue and gets silly when you do.
I've been asked to take a condom off by a few women. Never had a man ask. So I'm being fair.
I was just wondering how much research Tame had done.
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"Not what we believe but we think it's the spread of STDs. And maybe woman or couples are just not turned on by two men together. Sexual preferences? Sexual preferences is probably the predominant reason. Although being a bisexual Male means you are at a greater risk of STI’s, this likely influences people’s decisions too.
This excuse usual gets wheeled out, Bi sexual men are no more at risk than swingers.
Well thats bullshit get your facts right!
Care to actually back up your statement, rather than just calling mine ‘bullshit’, when mine is actually correct ?!
Bi men are far more likely to indulge in anal sex and as the anus isn't lubricated you get damage to the rectum with micro bleeds. Its well known in medical circles that receiving anal sex carried the highest risk of infection.
Care to comer up with a reason to back up your b/s!
Can you actually make a comment on the forums without using the eye rolling emoji ?
Can you back up your B/S? Apparently not that's because its B/S!
Here you go:
‘A Dutch study has found that swingers -- heterosexual adults who engage in partner swapping or attend sex clubs for couples -- have rates of sexually transmitted diseases comparable to gay or bisexual men, both considered high-risk groups for catching herpes, HIV and chlamydia, among other infections.’
If flattered you only come on the forums to reply to me though.
Tame.. you're officially allowed to use 'Fabstraight' in my eyes again without an eye roll from me. I apologise for riding you over it.
*Ghengis tips his hat*
I’m just looking forward to her reply, I would put the link up, but I’m shit with technology.
How many other websites have you checked?
End of the day we're talking about a relatively small figure like.. one in 8 bi men you sleep with may be at risk. Compared to 1 in 9 Females in a couple.
Pretty pathetic thing to use an excuse to discriminate over.
I pulled those figures out of the air.. but you get my drift. It's hard to argue and gets silly when you do.
I've been asked to take a condom off by a few women. Never had a man ask. So I'm being fair.
I was just wondering how much research Tame had done.
I'm glad to see he cared enough to comment. AndI agree with what he's saying so I don't really care.
The difference in risk, as I've witnessed it, would probably put swinging couples, many of whom are bi when wet.. male and female alike. Many of whom dont disclose it on their profile. Women seem to dislike condoms as much as men...
Would put us all on the same level..
Leaving it down to good judgement, precautions and luck on an individual basis.
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"Not what we believe but we think it's the spread of STDs. And maybe woman or couples are just not turned on by two men together. Sexual preferences? Sexual preferences is probably the predominant reason. Although being a bisexual Male means you are at a greater risk of STI’s, this likely influences people’s decisions too.
This excuse usual gets wheeled out, Bi sexual men are no more at risk than swingers.
Well thats bullshit get your facts right!
Care to actually back up your statement, rather than just calling mine ‘bullshit’, when mine is actually correct ?!
Bi men are far more likely to indulge in anal sex and as the anus isn't lubricated you get damage to the rectum with micro bleeds. Its well known in medical circles that receiving anal sex carried the highest risk of infection.
Care to comer up with a reason to back up your b/s!
Can you actually make a comment on the forums without using the eye rolling emoji ?
Can you back up your B/S? Apparently not that's because its B/S!
Here you go:
‘A Dutch study has found that swingers -- heterosexual adults who engage in partner swapping or attend sex clubs for couples -- have rates of sexually transmitted diseases comparable to gay or bisexual men, both considered high-risk groups for catching herpes, HIV and chlamydia, among other infections.’
If flattered you only come on the forums to reply to me though.
Tame.. you're officially allowed to use 'Fabstraight' in my eyes again without an eye roll from me. I apologise for riding you over it.
*Ghengis tips his hat*
I’m just looking forward to her reply, I would put the link up, but I’m shit with technology.
How many other websites have you checked?
End of the day we're talking about a relatively small figure like.. one in 8 bi men you sleep with may be at risk. Compared to 1 in 9 Females in a couple.
Pretty pathetic thing to use an excuse to discriminate over.
I pulled those figures out of the air.. but you get my drift. It's hard to argue and gets silly when you do.
I've been asked to take a condom off by a few women. Never had a man ask. So I'm being fair.
I was just wondering how much research Tame had done.
I looked at one website on my tea break.
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"Some women are turned off by the thought of 2 men fucking. They don't wanna shag Elton John. " Alot of men say there straight but very easily take my strap on | |||
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"Some women are turned off by the thought of 2 men fucking. They don't wanna shag Elton John. Alot of men say there straight but very easily take my strap on "Yeah, what’s your point, you saying lesbians who use strap ons aren’t lesbians ? | |||
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"Some women are turned off by the thought of 2 men fucking. They don't wanna shag Elton John. Alot of men say there straight but very easily take my strap on
Yeah, what’s your point, you saying lesbians who use strap ons aren’t lesbians ? "Dick is just THAT powerful. Even plastic dick. | |||
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"Some women are turned off by the thought of 2 men fucking. They don't wanna shag Elton John. Alot of men say there straight but very easily take my strap on
Yeah, what’s your point, you saying lesbians who use strap ons aren’t lesbians ? "Wasnt making a point was just saying And I never mentioned lesbians | |||
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"@Brownxsugar (Trying to cut down wall of text) I've had discriminatory views I've worked through and overcome. Is it so hard to want the same for others. I'm not looking down on you for view you hold. I just think it's a bit sad we could potentially be friends, get along nicely, be attracted... yet the moment you'd find out I was bi, it'd change in a flash. So I'm driven to speak for the men like me who aren't completey unsafe whores, are masculine. To prove there exceptions to every stereotype. So can we leave it at that? You have your view, but you've questioned it by debating with me. Perhaps solidified your opinion, or maybe I've laid a brain worm for you to dwell on later in life. Just because there IS discrimination, doesn't mean it shouldn't go unchallenged because the situation has changed. I'm not telling people who to sleep with.. or calling them anything. Just to occasionally soul search. I understand what you’re saying. However I think you’re assuming that I completely write someone off if it turns out they’re bisexual, which I don’t think would be the case. Maybe I haven’t explained properly. As I said, I am a straight woman and I seek a straight man. However, if there was to be a man who I felt was 100% what I was looking for (let’s use you as an example) and you stated you were bisexual, I wouldn’t just write you off, because your orientation isn’t the biggest deal in the world. However I’ve not been with a bisexual man (I assume it’s not that different) so it would be a whole new experience for me. I seek out what I seek out, however if someone ticks all the boxes and happens to have a different sexual orientation to myself for example, I may well change my mind. I don’t know for sure, as I haven’t been in the situation. I guess it’s different to physical attraction where I wouldn’t be physically attracted to a short guy at all. Hope that makes sense! Maybe it is a case of, when I am faced with the situation my preferences or likes may well change. Who knows! "Well if that's the case.. then I agree with you.. you're not homophobic and just have a preference for guys who say they're straight. With me there's no doubt, I am what I am
Maybe we've both misunderstood each other at different times and its led to almost-conflict.. needlessly.
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"@Brownxsugar (Trying to cut down wall of text) I've had discriminatory views I've worked through and overcome. Is it so hard to want the same for others. I'm not looking down on you for view you hold. I just think it's a bit sad we could potentially be friends, get along nicely, be attracted... yet the moment you'd find out I was bi, it'd change in a flash. So I'm driven to speak for the men like me who aren't completey unsafe whores, are masculine. To prove there exceptions to every stereotype. So can we leave it at that? You have your view, but you've questioned it by debating with me. Perhaps solidified your opinion, or maybe I've laid a brain worm for you to dwell on later in life. Just because there IS discrimination, doesn't mean it shouldn't go unchallenged because the situation has changed. I'm not telling people who to sleep with.. or calling them anything. Just to occasionally soul search. I understand what you’re saying. However I think you’re assuming that I completely write someone off if it turns out they’re bisexual, which I don’t think would be the case. Maybe I haven’t explained properly. As I said, I am a straight woman and I seek a straight man. However, if there was to be a man who I felt was 100% what I was looking for (let’s use you as an example) and you stated you were bisexual, I wouldn’t just write you off, because your orientation isn’t the biggest deal in the world. However I’ve not been with a bisexual man (I assume it’s not that different) so it would be a whole new experience for me. I seek out what I seek out, however if someone ticks all the boxes and happens to have a different sexual orientation to myself for example, I may well change my mind. I don’t know for sure, as I haven’t been in the situation. I guess it’s different to physical attraction where I wouldn’t be physically attracted to a short guy at all. Hope that makes sense! Maybe it is a case of, when I am faced with the situation my preferences or likes may well change. Who knows!
Well if that's the case.. then I agree with you.. you're not homophobic and just have a preference for guys who say they're straight. With me there's no doubt, I am what I am
Maybe we've both misunderstood each other at different times and its led to almost-conflict.. needlessly.
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"Not what we believe but we think it's the spread of STDs. And maybe woman or couples are just not turned on by two men together. Sexual preferences? Sexual preferences is probably the predominant reason. Although being a bisexual Male means you are at a greater risk of STI’s, this likely influences people’s decisions too.
This excuse usual gets wheeled out, Bi sexual men are no more at risk than swingers.
Well thats bullshit get your facts right!
Care to actually back up your statement, rather than just calling mine ‘bullshit’, when mine is actually correct ?!
Bi men are far more likely to indulge in anal sex and as the anus isn't lubricated you get damage to the rectum with micro bleeds. Its well known in medical circles that receiving anal sex carried the highest risk of infection.
Care to comer up with a reason to back up your b/s!
Can you actually make a comment on the forums without using the eye rolling emoji ?
Can you back up your B/S? Apparently not that's because its B/S!
Here you go:
‘A Dutch study has found that swingers -- heterosexual adults who engage in partner swapping or attend sex clubs for couples -- have rates of sexually transmitted diseases comparable to gay or bisexual men, both considered high-risk groups for catching herpes, HIV and chlamydia, among other infections.’
If flattered you only come on the forums to reply to me though.
Tame.. you're officially allowed to use 'Fabstraight' in my eyes again without an eye roll from me. I apologise for riding you over it.
*Ghengis tips his hat*
I’m just looking forward to her reply, I would put the link up, but I’m shit with technology.
How many other websites have you checked?
End of the day we're talking about a relatively small figure like.. one in 8 bi men you sleep with may be at risk. Compared to 1 in 9 Females in a couple.
Pretty pathetic thing to use an excuse to discriminate over.
I pulled those figures out of the air.. but you get my drift. It's hard to argue and gets silly when you do.
I've been asked to take a condom off by a few women. Never had a man ask. So I'm being fair.
I was just wondering how much research Tame had done.
I'm glad to see he cared enough to comment. AndI agree with what he's saying so I don't really care.
The difference in risk, as I've witnessed it, would probably put swinging couples, many of whom are bi when wet.. male and female alike. Many of whom dont disclose it on their profile. Women seem to dislike condoms as much as men...
Would put us all on the same level..
Leaving it down to good judgement, precautions and luck on an individual basis.
Interesting about the condom thing do you reckon bi men are more responsible then than (some) women, when it comes down to business, just because of this perceived greater risk. Making them actually safer to be with
Interesting response, you could be onto something!
"No.. because I have witnessed unsafe sex practiced by both groups of people. I'd say safest bet is getting to know someone well safely.. whoever they are. Build trust, then its between the two of you.. Have a test together. then maybe explore less safe sex. Or to keep condom on with everyone all the time. Use dental dams and all other bio hazard gear. The choice is yours. | |||
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"Seeing that everyone is so caught up in numbers, can someone show me the statistics that say “most” women are “against” bi guys? I want to see those too! I’ll wait patiently with you.
Still waiting.. because really, if it can’t be, then the whole thread can just go in the bin as fake news "Seriously, no one can prove the OPs theory on “most”... | |||
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"It's like bi (for guys) may as well be called leper, what's the issue? Is it the increased potential competition? Worried they might think a man's better? " Think you may find it's the choice of the lady . And her preference . | |||
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"Not what we believe but we think it's the spread of STDs. And maybe woman or couples are just not turned on by two men together. Sexual preferences? Sexual preferences is probably the predominant reason. Although being a bisexual Male means you are at a greater risk of STI’s, this likely influences people’s decisions too.
This excuse usual gets wheeled out, Bi sexual men are no more at risk than swingers.
Well thats bullshit get your facts right!
Care to actually back up your statement, rather than just calling mine ‘bullshit’, when mine is actually correct ?!
Bi men are far more likely to indulge in anal sex and as the anus isn't lubricated you get damage to the rectum with micro bleeds. Its well known in medical circles that receiving anal sex carried the highest risk of infection.
Care to comer up with a reason to back up your b/s!
Can you actually make a comment on the forums without using the eye rolling emoji ?
Can you back up your B/S? Apparently not that's because its B/S!
Here you go:
‘A Dutch study has found that swingers -- heterosexual adults who engage in partner swapping or attend sex clubs for couples -- have rates of sexually transmitted diseases comparable to gay or bisexual men, both considered high-risk groups for catching herpes, HIV and chlamydia, among other infections.’
If flattered you only come on the forums to reply to me though.
Tame.. you're officially allowed to use 'Fabstraight' in my eyes again without an eye roll from me. I apologise for riding you over it.
*Ghengis tips his hat*
I’m just looking forward to her reply, I would put the link up, but I’m shit with technology.
How many other websites have you checked?
End of the day we're talking about a relatively small figure like.. one in 8 bi men you sleep with may be at risk. Compared to 1 in 9 Females in a couple.
Pretty pathetic thing to use an excuse to discriminate over.
I pulled those figures out of the air.. but you get my drift. It's hard to argue and gets silly when you do.
I've been asked to take a condom off by a few women. Never had a man ask. So I'm being fair.
I was just wondering how much research Tame had done.
I'm glad to see he cared enough to comment. AndI agree with what he's saying so I don't really care.
The difference in risk, as I've witnessed it, would probably put swinging couples, many of whom are bi when wet.. male and female alike. Many of whom dont disclose it on their profile. Women seem to dislike condoms as much as men...
Would put us all on the same level..
Leaving it down to good judgement, precautions and luck on an individual basis.
Interesting about the condom thing do you reckon bi men are more responsible then than (some) women, when it comes down to business, just because of this perceived greater risk. Making them actually safer to be with
Interesting response, you could be onto something!
No.. because I have witnessed unsafe sex practiced by both groups of people.
I'd say safest bet is getting to know someone well safely.. whoever they are. Build trust, then its between the two of you.. Have a test together. then maybe explore less safe sex. Or to keep condom on with everyone all the time. Use dental dams and all other bio hazard gear.
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"I’m not against Bi-guys, this is a swingers site, everyone’s more at risk of STD’s REGARDLESS of their sexuality, wether it goes in whatever hole! We are all consensual adults right? Seriously does it matter if people are against Bi men or not? It’s not gonna stop you doing it is it? I Personally think it’s pretty kinky, but maybe I’m a sick bitch.... who cares? Enjoy.... that’s the whole point xx" Honestly it's more likely the other way rather than stop me, after being on here for a couple of years (and other apps etc) and being ignored by women it's pushed me more the other way. | |||
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"Have a straight profile on here and a bi one on fabguys like all the other "fabsingle" guys. "I've a bi one on here and a bi one on there. I prefer to keep the two apart, but I'm honest on both | |||
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"Have a straight profile on here and a bi one on fabguys like all the other "fabsingle" guys.
I've a bi one on here and a bi one on there. I prefer to keep the two apart, but I'm honest on both "So you're fabsingle ? | |||
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"Have a straight profile on here and a bi one on fabguys like all the other "fabsingle" guys.
I've a bi one on here and a bi one on there. I prefer to keep the two apart, but I'm honest on both
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"What makes you think they are op?" Personal experience. As for those saying shag the ones interested and don't judge the ones who don't, that's exactly my point, I get no interest from women at all and I much prefer them, I'm not about to start just fucking anybody (not my thing) just considered this was the reason for it. But following on from the thread I've come to realise must just be UF syndrome | |||
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"Some women are turned off by the thought of 2 men fucking. They don't wanna shag Elton John. " I know all the words to Candle in the Wind, but it doesn’t make Elton chuffin John! | |||
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"What makes you think they are op? Personal experience. As for those saying shag the ones interested and don't judge the ones who don't, that's exactly my point, I get no interest from women at all and I much prefer them, I'm not about to start just fucking anybody (not my thing) just considered this was the reason for it. But following on from the thread I've come to realise must just be UF syndrome " If i was you id get to the gym, get waxed, open a new straight profile, and keep the bi stuff on fabguys. Im not suggesting that you do that, but if i was actually you, that's what id do . | |||
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"What makes you think they are op? Personal experience. As for those saying shag the ones interested and don't judge the ones who don't, that's exactly my point, I get no interest from women at all and I much prefer them, I'm not about to start just fucking anybody (not my thing) just considered this was the reason for it. But following on from the thread I've come to realise must just be UF syndrome " If it is..I struggled with all same shit every man has to learn about himself and this site before getting anywhere. Looks, body irrelevant.
Anyone can develop a decent personality.. whether you're ugly or not.. chicks dig dudes who are brave enough to be who they are. Whatever that is. It shows courage.
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"What makes you think they are op? Personal experience. As for those saying shag the ones interested and don't judge the ones who don't, that's exactly my point, I get no interest from women at all and I much prefer them, I'm not about to start just fucking anybody (not my thing) just considered this was the reason for it. But following on from the thread I've come to realise must just be UF syndrome If it is..I struggled with all same shit every man has to learn about himself and this site before getting anywhere. Looks, body irrelevant.
Anyone can develop a decent personality.. whether you're ugly or not.. chicks dig dudes who are brave enough to be who they are. Whatever that is. It shows courage.
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"I have answered that one a couple of times actually " That most women are against bi guys? I haven’t seen an answer or stats anywhere.. | |||
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"I have answered that one a couple of times actually That most women are against bi guys? I haven’t seen an answer or stats anywhere.." Well read previous threads on this subject that might answer your question and where the OP might have formed that impression | |||
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"I have answered that one a couple of times actually That most women are against bi guys? I haven’t seen an answer or stats anywhere.. Well read previous threads on this subject that might answer your question and where the OP might have formed that impression " the impression comes from many women and couples saying no bi guys one would imagine | |||
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"I have answered that one a couple of times actually That most women are against bi guys? I haven’t seen an answer or stats anywhere.. Well read previous threads on this subject that might answer your question and where the OP might have formed that impression the impression comes from many women and couples saying no bi guys one would imagine "Many or some?? Because I will bet with anyone here that if I change my profile to bi that I’ll get a lot more replies.. so that’s his theory out the window.. | |||
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"Have a straight profile on here and a bi one on fabguys like all the other "fabsingle" guys.
Why is that? Out of interest...
What is UF syndrome? "I wondered that too. Is it Ugly Fucker? | |||
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"Have a straight profile on here and a bi one on fabguys like all the other "fabsingle" guys.
Why is that? Out of interest...
What is UF syndrome?
I wondered that too. Is it Ugly Fucker?"Haha good guess | |||
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"I find the idea of a bi guy sexy. And a bi threesome is on my bucket list "A bi mmf is actually the only thing left on my bucket-list, straight mmf is the most boring sex ever (for the guy) too many boundrys/considerations and essentially you get half a person to play with | |||
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"If I find a guy attractive all I really want is them to find me attractive too . I also prefer honesty if they are by say so and not lie about it. " Certainly works 1 way Red ?????? that's very much the case, it seems though (and its guys fault) that a lot of girls and couples feel entitled online though, I'd say in g here but seems to be true of all apps | |||
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"It's all about heuristics 'int it! It is but some aren’t willing to "Lol. | |||
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"It's all about heuristics 'int it! It is but some aren’t willing to
Lol."The flaw with this tactic is you don't see that, all you see is the wall which is just full of desperate men wanting a bj or something else all selfishly motivated who probably message every woman/couple they can, I don't know if that works but I'm not about to try | |||
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"Not what we believe but we think it's the spread of STDs. And maybe woman or couples are just not turned on by two men together. Sexual preferences? Sexual preferences is probably the predominant reason. Although being a bisexual Male means you are at a greater risk of STI’s, this likely influences people’s decisions too.
This excuse usual gets wheeled out, Bi sexual men are no more at risk than swingers.
Well thats bullshit get your facts right!
Care to actually back up your statement, rather than just calling mine ‘bullshit’, when mine is actually correct ?!
Bi men are far more likely to indulge in anal sex and as the anus isn't lubricated you get damage to the rectum with micro bleeds. Its well known in medical circles that receiving anal sex carried the highest risk of infection.
Care to comer up with a reason to back up your b/s!
Can you actually make a comment on the forums without using the eye rolling emoji ?
Can you back up your B/S? Apparently not that's because its B/S!
Here you go:
‘A Dutch study has found that swingers -- heterosexual adults who engage in partner swapping or attend sex clubs for couples -- have rates of sexually transmitted diseases comparable to gay or bisexual men, both considered high-risk groups for catching herpes, HIV and chlamydia, among other infections.’
If flattered you only come on the forums to reply to me though.
Tame.. you're officially allowed to use 'Fabstraight' in my eyes again without an eye roll from me. I apologise for riding you over it.
*Ghengis tips his hat*
I’m just looking forward to her reply, I would put the link up, but I’m shit with technology.
How many other websites have you checked?
End of the day we're talking about a relatively small figure like.. one in 8 bi men you sleep with may be at risk. Compared to 1 in 9 Females in a couple.
Pretty pathetic thing to use an excuse to discriminate over.
I pulled those figures out of the air.. but you get my drift. It's hard to argue and gets silly when you do.
I've been asked to take a condom off by a few women. Never had a man ask. So I'm being fair.
I was just wondering how much research Tame had done.
I looked at one website on my tea break.
Good research everyone.
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"If I find a guy attractive all I really want is them to find me attractive too . I also prefer honesty if they are by say so and not lie about it. Certainly works 1 way Red ?????? that's very much the case, it seems though (and its guys fault) that a lot of girls and couples feel entitled online though, I'd say in g here but seems to be true of all apps " I don't like any type of lie, women say they are bi and are clearly not , pillow princess kinda thing or doing it to please others. I'm bi if we met someone who wasn't in to bi ladies I would play straight but let them know I'm bi, it states in our profile I am. So you'd hope they read that. | |||
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