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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Not that it matters what anyone says else thinks of anyone and there is definitely no right or wrong answer
What are people's thoughts on men who class themselves as straight having fun with TV/TS.
Many of the trans community are absolutely stunning and are a million times more 'womanly' than many women. I myself find many of them very attractive and wouldn't call myself gay in any way.
To me being gay is finding love with another male who is a male. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I can't understand how a completely straight person would want to play sexually with someone of the same sex, so to me they would be at least bi. "
But that person doesn't class themselves as the same sex, doesn't look like the same sex, doesn't act like them, may even have changed by law, be in the process of transitioning etc.
I think it's very much a grey area that people will find themselves in more and more in the future |
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"It’s like perspective. Railway lines are usually straight and parallel but if you look for any period of time they join at the end. "
Well I hope they are parallel or the trains would derail! As said, it all depends on your perspective. Just don't judge! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Call yourself what you want and fuck who you want 
Absolutely this!"
Definately agree with you both and never been a problem personally as I've just done as I've pleased however I've noticed a lot of women shaming guys on the forums for it.
Could understand it back in the day when trans meant a 60 year old man called Derek in his wife's knickers and that's as far as it went but now it's completely different.
I do love a good debate though so I do post provocative topics and watch the chaos unfold haha! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Call yourself what you want and fuck who you want
Absolutely this!
Definately agree with you both and never been a problem personally as I've just done as I've pleased however I've noticed a lot of women shaming guys on the forums for it.
Could understand it back in the day when trans meant a 60 year old man called Derek in his wife's knickers and that's as far as it went but now it's completely different.
I do love a good debate though so I do post provocative topics and watch the chaos unfold haha! "
Thank fuck it’s different these days though sadly I’m sure there’s still a few Dereks around x |
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TV and TS are different.
From my perspective, a straight male wouldn't be interested in a TV but could be interested in TS.
Someone who is TS and has fully transitioned may still choose to identify as TS on here, rather than choosing female.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Labels are only useful for those who want to read them.
Fab gets very tied up in defining what is right or wrong instead of enjoying the spectrum of what life has to offer. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Call yourself what you want and fuck who you want
Absolutely this!"
Totally this, but if you are going to have sex with men, consider at least using one of the bi labels, that way straight guys dont get so many offers from bi guys who just don't believe they don't want sex with men.  |
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"Call yourself what you want and fuck who you want
Absolutely this!
Yes this.... but same sex = gay.
Don’t worry about the label, just do what you enjoy!"
Same sex doesn’t always = gay. What about bisexual people? They have sex with both males and females. |
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"Not that it matters what anyone says else thinks of anyone and there is definitely no right or wrong answer
What are people's thoughts on men who class themselves as straight having fun with TV/TS.
Many of the trans community are absolutely stunning and are a million times more 'womanly' than many women. I myself find many of them very attractive and wouldn't call myself gay in any way.
To me being gay is finding love with another male who is a male."
You don’t need the approval of others to label yourself what you want to be labelled as... |
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"Call yourself what you want and fuck who you want
Absolutely this!
Yes this.... but same sex = gay.
Don’t worry about the label, just do what you enjoy!
Same sex doesn’t always = gay. What about bisexual people? They have sex with both males and females. "
Doesn’t sound very straight to me? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I agree with a lot of people on this post. Who worries what outhers think. Im bi. Not gay. I like both sexes. But i realy dont care what outhers want to call me |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Can you fancy a TV and still class yourself as straight,or call yourself straight but want to suck cock.In the end it shouldn’t matter what you call yourself. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Sexuality is fluid
Labels are static
They aren't a natural mix "
Labels can be changed too... It really makes life easier on a sexual contact site if you use the correct advertising  |
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"Can you fancy a TV and still class yourself as straight,or call yourself straight but want to suck cock.In the end it shouldn’t matter what you call yourself."
You can do and call yourself what you like... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Not that it matters what anyone says else thinks of anyone and there is definitely no right or wrong answer
What are people's thoughts on men who class themselves as straight having fun with TV/TS.
Many of the trans community are absolutely stunning and are a million times more 'womanly' than many women. I myself find many of them very attractive and wouldn't call myself gay in any way.
To me being gay is finding love with another male who is a male."
If you wouldn't call yourself gay in anyway.. Then why are you looking for male couples. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I can understand if a genuine straight guy looks at a TV and thinks wow, looks a beautiful woman. But that is where it ends for a GENUINE straight guy. The moment you become sexual, it is gay sex no matter how much you try to convince yourself otherwise. You are bisexual as a minimum. Just face the truth. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I agree with a lot of people on this post. Who worries what outhers think. Im bi. Not gay. I like both sexes. But i realy dont care what outhers want to call me"
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I am TV, no intention to transition right now for various reasons but have met lots of straight men but I consider myself female and present myself that way. Yes I have a she cock and some men are interested in it, some are not but it's the illusion of a female they are fucking. Many of the men I meet wouldn't dream in a million years of going with a man but love to be with Tgirls. Labels are complicated. No it isn't "gay" or even "bi", it's just men that are drawn towards feminity. Why do we have to label everything? xx |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I have known plenty of straight men over the years who love women but would not dream in a million years of going with a TV or even a TS. The fact it is or was a man totally puts them off. To me they are genuinely straight.
Saying some straight men are so in love with the feminine image they would do another male up the arse is just a piss poor excuse to have gay sex and not face up to the fact they are on the bi spectrum if not gay. |
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It’s all a pile of bollocks, you are who you are that’s it, end of, labels for god damn everything today but in reality, you can fancy/love/fuck whoever ya want and mix it up however you want, and you will still be you. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Nothing wrong with being honest about what you really are, hiding or warping what you are is not helping yourself or others. You are what you are and your label should reflect that. Grow some balls and own your real sexuality like many of us do |
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"Not that it matters what anyone says else thinks of anyone and there is definitely no right or wrong answer
What are people's thoughts on men who class themselves as straight having fun with TV/TS.
Many of the trans community are absolutely stunning and are a million times more 'womanly' than many women. I myself find many of them very attractive and wouldn't call myself gay in any way.
To me being gay is finding love with another male who is a male."
So you’d suck a tv cock?
That’s being bisexual |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Not that it matters what anyone says else thinks of anyone and there is definitely no right or wrong answer
What are people's thoughts on men who class themselves as straight having fun with TV/TS.
Many of the trans community are absolutely stunning and are a million times more 'womanly' than many women. I myself find many of them very attractive and wouldn't call myself gay in any way.
To me being gay is finding love with another male who is a male.
So you’d suck a tv cock?
That’s being bisexual "
Even if he refers to it as a man clit?  |
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Op,if we are going to use labels, if you go with anyone of the same gender you are not straight, that includes CD/TV/TS while they still have a cock and balls intact. However going with a guy or CD/TV/TS does not make you gay either, you seem to have gone from one extreme to the other in your opening post and missed out the obvious middle ground which is bisexual. |
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By *lair101TV/TS
over a year ago
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Gay men are attracted to men who look like men. Trans women who look very feminine will be of no interest to them. If you are attracted to the feminine you are straight. Many straight guys date biological women and trans women only.. They have no interest in dating a guy who looks like a guy.
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"Gay men are attracted to men who look like men. Trans women who look very feminine will be of no interest to them. If you are attracted to the feminine you are straight. Many straight guys date biological women and trans women only.. They have no interest in dating a guy who looks like a guy.
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Not so, this is gay. Even if men dress as women.
There are two types of men, those who play with other men and those who don’t.
Why not just accept that’s the way it is and get on with doing what you enjoy rather than trying to convince people of their sexuality.
You’ll be much happier! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Gay men are attracted to men who look like men. Trans women who look very feminine will be of no interest to them. If you are attracted to the feminine you are straight. Many straight guys date biological women and trans women only.. They have no interest in dating a guy who looks like a guy.
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Not so, this is gay. Even if men dress as women.
There are two types of men, those who play with other men and those who don’t.
Why not just accept that’s the way it is and get on with doing what you enjoy rather than trying to convince people of their sexuality.
You’ll be much happier!"
He is absolutely right why would a gay man want a feminine trans woman who looks completely female it makes no sense.
Shagging an old crossdresser is completely different. |
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"Wow... has bisexuality been erased or did I miss the memo?
Nope, all part of the gay spectrum"
You’re wrong. Bisexuality is part of the sexual spectrum with gay at one end and straight at the other. How can someone be on a ‘gay spectrum’? They are either gay or not. Amusingly, it’s a binary choice. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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How I see it , if they have cock and balls there a man , and your bi , I'm a gay male if I wore I wig and a thong does that make me a woman ? No , I'm on the other fab site and the amount of men I've seen on both on that one there gay on this one straight ? Why ? be bi and happy |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Why do people get so hung up on labels? Sexuality is like a sliding scale. We’re all on there somewhere but no two of us the same whether we’re gay, bi, trans, straight, etc etc etc.
Just enjoy yourselves with like minded others whilst you’ve still got the urge and the energy!  |
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"Why do people get so hung up on labels? Sexuality is like a sliding scale. We’re all on there somewhere but no two of us the same whether we’re gay, bi, trans, straight, etc etc etc.
Just enjoy yourselves with like minded others whilst you’ve still got the urge and the energy! "
Because this site, like other similar sites ask you to state your sexuality via a drop down menu, whilst it might not matter too much in the real world, it is useful information on a site where people are potentially looking to meet others for sex. Personally I'm extremely proud of my label. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Why do people get so hung up on labels? Sexuality is like a sliding scale. We’re all on there somewhere but no two of us the same whether we’re gay, bi, trans, straight, etc etc etc.
Just enjoy yourselves with like minded others whilst you’ve still got the urge and the energy!
Because this site, like other similar sites ask you to state your sexuality via a drop down menu, whilst it might not matter too much in the real world, it is useful information on a site where people are potentially looking to meet others for sex. Personally I'm extremely proud of my label. "
And so you should be proud of it.
What I’m referring to are the endless threads where people dissect others, trying to pigeonhole them. Often people don’t know what they are themselves. It doesn’t matter. Be you and enjoy who you are and what you like sexually.
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By *lair101TV/TS
over a year ago
Aberdeen, westhill |
"Gay men are attracted to men who look like men. Trans women who look very feminine will be of no interest to them. If you are attracted to the feminine you are straight. Many straight guys date biological women and trans women only.. They have no interest in dating a guy who looks like a guy.
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Not so, this is gay. Even if men dress as women.
There are two types of men, those who play with other men and those who don’t.
Why not just accept that’s the way it is and get on with doing what you enjoy rather than trying to convince people of their sexuality.
You’ll be much happier!"
Who is unhappy? Lol
Gay guys are not attracted to the feminine... If you look very feminine, straight men will be attracted to you. If you do not look feminine, then less so.
The point is, the more feminine you look, the more straight guys are attracted to you and the less gay guys are interested. |
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By *lair101TV/TS
over a year ago
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Aaaand.. If a trans woman has had full surgery and looks very feminine.. Lives full time etc.. And dates men.. Does that make the men gay? No.. Of course not.. No gay guys would even be interested.
If a trans woman is transitioning and on hormones, and looks very feminine and attracts straight guys.. And say the guy is not interested in her penis, but enjoys sex with her. Is he gay.. No, he is straight.
Wanr to suck n play with her willy? That's now a lil bit bi lol
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By *ackdd72Man
over a year ago
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I'm a little confused (or is that fabconfused or fabcurious too many labels) so when my mate is in a good mood and shouts "cover me in chocolate and throw me to the lesbians" does that make him gay??  |
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"Gay men are attracted to men who look like men. Trans women who look very feminine will be of no interest to them. If you are attracted to the feminine you are straight. Many straight guys date biological women and trans women only.. They have no interest in dating a guy who looks like a guy.
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Not so, this is gay. Even if men dress as women.
There are two types of men, those who play with other men and those who don’t.
Why not just accept that’s the way it is and get on with doing what you enjoy rather than trying to convince people of their sexuality.
You’ll be much happier!
Who is unhappy? Lol
Gay guys are not attracted to the feminine... If you look very feminine, straight men will be attracted to you. If you do not look feminine, then less so.
The point is, the more feminine you look, the more straight guys are attracted to you and the less gay guys are interested. "
I hear exactly what you are saying, and agree almost, except for the part where you say straight men are attracted to feminine looking men. The fact is straight men are not attracted to men however they look. Bisexual men more likely, but straight men not so at all.
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"So do all these comments mean people shouldn't disclose the fact they have played with a TV to people who are not looknig for bi men?"
It’s up to them, depends if they want to write off all the women who specify bi men only I suppose? |
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"Wow... has bisexuality been erased or did I miss the memo?
Nope, all part of the gay spectrum
You’re wrong. Bisexuality is part of the sexual spectrum with gay at one end and straight at the other. How can someone be on a ‘gay spectrum’? They are either gay or not. Amusingly, it’s a binary choice. "
I understand your point Steve. Straight people aren’t gay or bi though. So it’s only the straight part of the spectrum that they are on surely? Anything other than straight is gay to a straight person.
Most straight people that I know see bi men as gay. To them, anyone who isn’t straight is gay.
In my opinion the sexuality spectrum is only ever used by gay or bi folk. There is no spectrum for straight folk.
We disagree on this point, but that doesn’t make us enemies |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I can say with honesty that some of the trans people on here are very attractive. Would I have sex with one? No. My reason is that I am only looking to "play" with women. I am straight, if I played with a trans woman then I would have to class myself as bisexual.
This is my personal outlook and preference only, everyone's different in one way or another |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So do all these comments mean people shouldn't disclose the fact they have played with a TV to people who are not looknig for bi men?"
The sad reality is that we have had messages from people wanting to meet us but they don’t want anyone to know about it because apparently they don’t meet TV’s
Meets that will never happen!
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"So do all these comments mean people shouldn't disclose the fact they have played with a TV to people who are not looknig for bi men?
The sad reality is that we have had messages from people wanting to meet us but they don’t want anyone to know about it because apparently they don’t meet TV’s
Meets that will never happen!
V"
So they are ashamed to admit meeting you ...I’m sure that’s a real turn on for you both! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So do all these comments mean people shouldn't disclose the fact they have played with a TV to people who are not looknig for bi men?
The sad reality is that we have had messages from people wanting to meet us but they don’t want anyone to know about it because apparently they don’t meet TV’s
Meets that will never happen!
V
So they are ashamed to admit meeting you ...I’m sure that’s a real turn on for you both!"
We know we’re an acquired taste as a couple and will only appeal to a minority but we will never be anyone’s guilty secret. The first time it happened we were taken aback. I’m quite protective of Abby so these days my replies are short and to the point!
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"Wow... has bisexuality been erased or did I miss the memo?
Nope, all part of the gay spectrum
You’re wrong. Bisexuality is part of the sexual spectrum with gay at one end and straight at the other. How can someone be on a ‘gay spectrum’? They are either gay or not. Amusingly, it’s a binary choice.
I understand your point Steve. Straight people aren’t gay or bi though. So it’s only the straight part of the spectrum that they are on surely? Anything other than straight is gay to a straight person.
Most straight people that I know see bi men as gay. To them, anyone who isn’t straight is gay.
In my opinion the sexuality spectrum is only ever used by gay or bi folk. There is no spectrum for straight folk.
We disagree on this point, but that doesn’t make us enemies "
We can disagree in a grown up manner. Imagine what goes on in my head when for 40 years I was straight. No thoughts about men sexually except, probably ‘yuk’ then ‘meh’. And then a life changing fuck up realisation. That was very worrisome at the time. |
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"Wow... has bisexuality been erased or did I miss the memo?
Nope, all part of the gay spectrum
You’re wrong. Bisexuality is part of the sexual spectrum with gay at one end and straight at the other. How can someone be on a ‘gay spectrum’? They are either gay or not. Amusingly, it’s a binary choice.
I understand your point Steve. Straight people aren’t gay or bi though. So it’s only the straight part of the spectrum that they are on surely? Anything other than straight is gay to a straight person.
Most straight people that I know see bi men as gay. To them, anyone who isn’t straight is gay.
In my opinion the sexuality spectrum is only ever used by gay or bi folk. There is no spectrum for straight folk.
We disagree on this point, but that doesn’t make us enemies
We can disagree in a grown up manner. Imagine what goes on in my head when for 40 years I was straight. No thoughts about men sexually except, probably ‘yuk’ then ‘meh’. And then a life changing fuck up realisation. That was very worrisome at the time. "
Worry is for worriers! Avoid at all costs, it’s not good for you! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Got to love the ones who claim to be straight and love femininity so much that they will do another guy up the arse simply due to them wearing a wig. Riiiiiight, lame excuse to indulge in gay sex |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Got to love the ones who claim to be straight and love femininity so much that they will do another guy up the arse simply due to them wearing a wig. Riiiiiight, lame excuse to indulge in gay sex "
Your quite feminine with your pouting. You should watch out the gays might bum you. |
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"Got to love the ones who claim to be straight and love femininity so much that they will do another guy up the arse simply due to them wearing a wig. Riiiiiight, lame excuse to indulge in gay sex
Your quite feminine with your pouting. You should watch out the gays might bum you. "
I just have big lips bro |
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