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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Just a thought on this; saw a guy taking a pic of a woman’s ass. Walked upto him and asked him to delete the pictures without causing a scene. He did so and walked off in a hurry. Couldn’t find the woman to tell her. What’s everyones opinion of taking pics of other people? |
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It is creepy and odd. But then again it is perfectly legal to do.
On the other hand, it would be difficult for journalists or artists if it was otherwise.
Ultimately someone taking a photo of you in a public place does you no harm whatsoever... |
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"It is creepy and odd. But then again it is perfectly legal to do.
On the other hand, it would be difficult for journalists or artists if it was otherwise.
Ultimately someone taking a photo of you in a public place does you no harm whatsoever... "
I don't think it does no harm. Something being put online can be very damaging to people and their families. |
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I think it can do harm depending on circumstances and the intention of the taker. The upskirt trend was pretty shit to read that folk do that.
I don’t know the legal blurb but would have assumed some sort of permission was needed. I have no doubt the law is an ass and I’m wrong probably. |
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"I think it can do harm depending on circumstances and the intention of the taker. The upskirt trend was pretty shit to read that folk do that.
I don’t know the legal blurb but would have assumed some sort of permission was needed. I have no doubt the law is an ass and I’m wrong probably.
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No permission is needed, unless you are going to use the image commercially.
Upskirting is very different to taking a picture of someone in the normal way.
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By *SAchickWoman
over a year ago
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"I think it can do harm depending on circumstances and the intention of the taker. The upskirt trend was pretty shit to read that folk do that.
I don’t know the legal blurb but would have assumed some sort of permission was needed. I have no doubt the law is an ass and I’m wrong probably.
No permission is needed, unless you are going to use the image commercially.
Upskirting is very different to taking a picture of someone in the normal way.
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The op says he was taking a picture of her arse. That's not a normal picture for innocent purposes, it's creepy as fuck and he was right to challenge it. It might not be illegal but that doesn't make it right. |
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"I think it can do harm depending on circumstances and the intention of the taker. The upskirt trend was pretty shit to read that folk do that.
I don’t know the legal blurb but would have assumed some sort of permission was needed. I have no doubt the law is an ass and I’m wrong probably.
No permission is needed, unless you are going to use the image commercially.
Upskirting is very different to taking a picture of someone in the normal way.
The op says he was taking a picture of her arse. That's not a normal picture for innocent purposes, it's creepy as fuck and he was right to challenge it. It might not be illegal but that doesn't make it right. "
 fair play to the OP if it was for innocent purposes then just ask if you can take a picture of so and so |
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"If you are in a public place then photography is perfectly legal and no one needs permission to take a picture of anyone. Why would an image of you be damaging?"
Ok, let's say a female secondary school teacher had a picture of her uploaded online, let's say the wind blew her skirt up and her face was also visable on the photo. I think that would be upsetting to her and have an adverse effect on her career at that school if the kids at school shared it for all the school to see.
Just a simple example. |
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"If you are in a public place then photography is perfectly legal and no one needs permission to take a picture of anyone. Why would an image of you be damaging?
Ok, let's say a female secondary school teacher had a picture of her uploaded online, let's say the wind blew her skirt up and her face was also visable on the photo. I think that would be upsetting to her and have an adverse effect on her career at that school if the kids at school shared it for all the school to see.
Just a simple example.
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That's not too upsetting. Kate Middleton had video of her dress blowing up on every new program in the world (it seemed).
I would imagine that any teacher is going to be exposed to similar, probably worse things, in their career. Too many cameras/phones for it not to happen. Falling at a sports day, tripping on stage, plenty of that sort of thing.
I'm also unconvinced that it would have an adverse affect on her career. For what reason? |
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By *SAchickWoman
over a year ago
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"If you are in a public place then photography is perfectly legal and no one needs permission to take a picture of anyone. Why would an image of you be damaging?
Ok, let's say a female secondary school teacher had a picture of her uploaded online, let's say the wind blew her skirt up and her face was also visable on the photo. I think that would be upsetting to her and have an adverse effect on her career at that school if the kids at school shared it for all the school to see.
Just a simple example.
That's not too upsetting. Kate Middleton had video of her dress blowing up on every new program in the world (it seemed)."
Kate Middleton doesn't have to teach a class of teenage boys sharing and sniggering over pictures of her knickers every day. |
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"If you are in a public place then photography is perfectly legal and no one needs permission to take a picture of anyone. Why would an image of you be damaging?
Ok, let's say a female secondary school teacher had a picture of her uploaded online, let's say the wind blew her skirt up and her face was also visable on the photo. I think that would be upsetting to her and have an adverse effect on her career at that school if the kids at school shared it for all the school to see.
Just a simple example.
That's not too upsetting. Kate Middleton had video of her dress blowing up on every new program in the world (it seemed).
I would imagine that any teacher is going to be exposed to similar, probably worse things, in their career. Too many cameras/phones for it not to happen. Falling at a sports day, tripping on stage, plenty of that sort of thing.
I'm also unconvinced that it would have an adverse affect on her career. For what reason?"
Fair enough. You're right. Nothing would be upsetting or humiliating about it.
Enjoy the rest of your discussion. |
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"If you are in a public place then photography is perfectly legal and no one needs permission to take a picture of anyone. Why would an image of you be damaging?
Ok, let's say a female secondary school teacher had a picture of her uploaded online, let's say the wind blew her skirt up and her face was also visable on the photo. I think that would be upsetting to her and have an adverse effect on her career at that school if the kids at school shared it for all the school to see.
Just a simple example.
That's not too upsetting. Kate Middleton had video of her dress blowing up on every new program in the world (it seemed).
I would imagine that any teacher is going to be exposed to similar, probably worse things, in their career. Too many cameras/phones for it not to happen. Falling at a sports day, tripping on stage, plenty of that sort of thing.
I'm also unconvinced that it would have an adverse affect on her career. For what reason?
Fair enough. You're right. Nothing would be upsetting or humiliating about it.
Enjoy the rest of your discussion."
I said "not too upsetting", if you could avoid misquoting me that would help.
No comment on the adverse affect question? |
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"If you are in a public place then photography is perfectly legal and no one needs permission to take a picture of anyone. Why would an image of you be damaging?
Ok, let's say a female secondary school teacher had a picture of her uploaded online, let's say the wind blew her skirt up and her face was also visable on the photo. I think that would be upsetting to her and have an adverse effect on her career at that school if the kids at school shared it for all the school to see.
Just a simple example.
That's not too upsetting. Kate Middleton had video of her dress blowing up on every new program in the world (it seemed).
I would imagine that any teacher is going to be exposed to similar, probably worse things, in their career. Too many cameras/phones for it not to happen. Falling at a sports day, tripping on stage, plenty of that sort of thing.
I'm also unconvinced that it would have an adverse affect on her career. For what reason?
Fair enough. You're right. Nothing would be upsetting or humiliating about it.
Enjoy the rest of your discussion.
I said "not too upsetting", if you could avoid misquoting me that would help.
No comment on the adverse affect question? "
No, really can't be arsed to argue my point with someone like you. |
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No permission is needed, unless you are going to use the image commercially.
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It can be used commercially as well, if the person can be identified some commercial clients, particularly in America, may not use it without a model release. But not essential in the UK.
If someone is in a public place they can be photographed end of story. Getting someone to delete a photo is pointless as well; as the photo still exists on a memory card it is just flagged as being deleted until it is over written. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It's creapy however it is legal
You have no right to privacy in public
Whether it is morally right or not is down to personal opinion
Personally it's not something I would do |
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"If you are in a public place then photography is perfectly legal and no one needs permission to take a picture of anyone. Why would an image of you be damaging?
Ok, let's say a female secondary school teacher had a picture of her uploaded online, let's say the wind blew her skirt up and her face was also visable on the photo. I think that would be upsetting to her and have an adverse effect on her career at that school if the kids at school shared it for all the school to see.
Just a simple example."
Still not damaging is it, imagine the headline....”wind blows women’s skirt in thong shocker” |
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No comment on the adverse affect question?
No, really can't be arsed to argue my point with someone like you."
Someone like me?! Which is what exactly?
All I've done is civilly debated the points you've made. I was not rude or personal at any point.
I'm not sure quite why you've taken against me. Oh well never mind. I don't allow random strangers to upset me over trivial matters. Which is also sort of my argument here, so thanks for helping to perfectly illustrate it.
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I'm not in the UK but believe that when in public people are at liberty to photograph what and whoever is around them, unless otherwise restricted by law. I'd be uncomfortable being photographed, similarly seeing others too.
I think there are restrictions on taking intimate pics without consent.
Whilst taking pics may be legal, someone may break the law by what they then do with the pics. We can't punish people for what we may imagine they might do though. |
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"Just a thought on this; saw a guy taking a pic of a woman’s ass. Walked upto him and asked him to delete the pictures without causing a scene. He did so and walked off in a hurry. Couldn’t find the woman to tell her. What’s everyones opinion of taking pics of other people? "
Good for you for doing that,its not on one bit. |
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By *lex D.Man
over a year ago
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"Just a thought on this; saw a guy taking a pic of a woman’s ass. Walked upto him and asked him to delete the pictures without causing a scene. He did so and walked off in a hurry. Couldn’t find the woman to tell her. What’s everyones opinion of taking pics of other people? "
For any photographer the unwritten law is to ask for permission. Had to do it at Nottinghill yesterday. Some like it; others don't. Upskirting though is a criminal act. |
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"Just a thought on this; saw a guy taking a pic of a woman’s ass. Walked upto him and asked him to delete the pictures without causing a scene. He did so and walked off in a hurry. Couldn’t find the woman to tell her. What’s everyones opinion of taking pics of other people?
For any photographer the unwritten law is to ask for permission. Had to do it at Nottinghill yesterday. Some like it; others don't. Upskirting though is a criminal act."
Yes, that’s just being polite regarding asking permission.
Some people don’t like it, agreed, especially criminals caught on cctv, people with something to hide or speeding motorists. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I'd prefer someone to ask my permission. If I caught them taking a photo of me.. I'd approach them and ask what they were doing.
I ask my own children if they mind me sharing their images with my friends.
It's called consent and should be respected.. whether its Law or not.
Obviously being caught in the background and not being the focus of the image is often unavoidable.
If I'm doing something a bit "Wow" To passers by.. like cliffjumping.. or artistic like painting.. then yes.. I'd be more sympathetic to the photographer.
My arse walking down the street? Wading out of the sea? I'd be less sympathetic.
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"I'd prefer someone to ask my permission. If I caught them taking a photo of me.. I'd approach them and ask what they were doing.
I ask my own children if they mind me sharing their images with my friends.
It's called consent and should be respected.. whether its Law or not.
Obviously being caught in the background and not being the focus of the image is often unavoidable.
If I'm doing something a bit "Wow" To passers by.. like cliffjumping.. or artistic like painting.. then yes.. I'd be more sympathetic to the photographer.
My arse walking down the street? Wading out of the sea? I'd be less sympathetic.
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... And if they said none of your business?
Would you push it, become confrontational with someone behaving perfectly legally?
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'd prefer someone to ask my permission. If I caught them taking a photo of me.. I'd approach them and ask what they were doing.
I ask my own children if they mind me sharing their images with my friends.
It's called consent and should be respected.. whether its Law or not.
Obviously being caught in the background and not being the focus of the image is often unavoidable.
If I'm doing something a bit "Wow" To passers by.. like cliffjumping.. or artistic like painting.. then yes.. I'd be more sympathetic to the photographer.
My arse walking down the street? Wading out of the sea? I'd be less sympathetic.
... And if they said none of your business?
Would you push it, become confrontational with someone behaving perfectly legally?
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Oh yes, most definitely. I'd probably start filming them and follow them around a bit. See how they like it.
On the other hand.. if they answered a bit more respectfully, showed me the image and offered to delete it.. I may no longer have an issue.
Just because it's legal.. doesn't make it right. End of. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'd prefer someone to ask my permission. If I caught them taking a photo of me.. I'd approach them and ask what they were doing.
I ask my own children if they mind me sharing their images with my friends.
It's called consent and should be respected.. whether its Law or not.
Obviously being caught in the background and not being the focus of the image is often unavoidable.
If I'm doing something a bit "Wow" To passers by.. like cliffjumping.. or artistic like painting.. then yes.. I'd be more sympathetic to the photographer.
My arse walking down the street? Wading out of the sea? I'd be less sympathetic.
... And if they said none of your business?
Would you push it, become confrontational with someone behaving perfectly legally?
Oh yes, most definitely. I'd probably start filming them and follow them around a bit. See how they like it.
On the other hand.. if they answered a bit more respectfully, showed me the image and offered to delete it.. I may no longer have an issue.
Just because it's legal.. doesn't make it right. End of."
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Just a thought on this; saw a guy taking a pic of a woman’s ass. Walked upto him and asked him to delete the pictures without causing a scene. He did so and walked off in a hurry. Couldn’t find the woman to tell her. What’s everyones opinion of taking pics of other people? "
I am against this so much at the moment. Someone recently took sneaky photos of me and my friends going into a swinging club...then sold them to national newspapers. I was mortified to say the least even with our faces blurred you could tell it was us. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I think we do need to be careful as there are consequences that we may not think of.
Person/child in the background of a picture could have escaped an abusive relationship/moved area for their own safety etc. If the picture went public and was an easily recognisable location then their "safe place" could end up not very safe anymore.
I've had it at work where there's parents have been taking photos of their kids playing in the ball pit and guardians of other kids in there have kicked up a fuss because the children have been removed from their homes for safety reasons and putting their location into public domain compromises that safety.
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"I'm also unconvinced that it would have an adverse affect on her career. For what reason?"
For the simple reason that a lot of people would assume that she’d agreed to it.
We live in a world where everyone takes everything they see on the web at face value. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I'm interested in street photography. If taking photos of crowds, no permission or engagement necessary. If someone sees me taking a photo of them, or their group, and looks interested or perturbed, I'll explain what I'm doing, show them the shot from the rear of the camera, and ask if they're ok with it. No one has ever said no.
But I don't focus on their arse/crotch/boobs.... |
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"I think we do need to be careful as there are consequences that we may not think of.
Person/child in the background of a picture could have escaped an abusive relationship/moved area for their own safety etc. If the picture went public and was an easily recognisable location then their "safe place" could end up not very safe anymore.
I've had it at work where there's parents have been taking photos of their kids playing in the ball pit and guardians of other kids in there have kicked up a fuss because the children have been removed from their homes for safety reasons and putting their location into public domain compromises that safety.
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Yes, as Foster carers my wife and I had to be careful on that front. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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there are a lot of valid points and I just want to clarify that yeah it may not be illegal but taking pics of someone’s body such as ass isn’t right. If it’s innocent by all means. I intervened because it was evident the guy was taking a pic of that woman’s ass and that’s not right or fair on the woman |
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