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The Ultimate Betrayal

By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

A man is suing his ex wife because he is not the father of her son. She was sired by a lover in an affair. She deliberately misled him for eight years and he is suing for every penny. The judge has said that the child should be told at an appropriate time.

No winners but do you have sympathy for the male ?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

This unfortunately happens a lot and the only one that gets hurt in the end is the child

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I have sympathy for him, he's been unknowingly living a lie for years.

I don't agree with him suing her though, taking things from her is also taking from the child who I would assume he has connected with.

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By *r Costa xxMan over a year ago

stirling

Depends on whether she knowingly deceived him, if so she deserves to be punished as that’s really low, if she genuinely didn’t know, that’s a different situation.....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Thats life as sinatra said

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"A man is suing his ex wife because he is not the father of her son. She was sired by a lover in an affair. She deliberately misled him for eight years and he is suing for every penny. The judge has said that the child should be told at an appropriate time.

No winners but do you have sympathy for the male ?

Yup. Shameful behaviour from his ex. Take her to the cleaners.

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By *abs..Woman over a year ago

The poor child

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yuk what a mess.

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By *tephTV67TV/TS over a year ago

Cheshire

A child only gets one childhood, as much as I feel sorry for him, it's the kid who gets my sympathy.

I know how it feels to be wronged in a relationship, I'm suffering not seeing my Children every day through her cheating, but I've got to think about their feelings first and keep mine in the whiskey bottle when I get really emotional over it.

It's tough but the child is totally innocent.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"This unfortunately happens a lot and the only one that gets hurt in the end is the child

You think that the fathers wouldn't be devastated? I'm sure most would, although I can't see what suing her will achieve.

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By *zamiWoman over a year ago

LONDON

No winners but do you have sympathy for the male ?

No suing his wife - what about the child

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By *ustme34Man over a year ago

Bradford

The child will see him as his father weather or not and doing that will hurt the child more than the mother ..

Feel bad for him that hes not the real father and finding out years later . But surely his bond with the child is stil worth more than the few pennies he will get back and the hurt he will cause. Coming from a broken home I know the child will feel it

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By *adbury girlWoman over a year ago

Lanarkshire

Poor child who presumably called him dad for 8 years now to be told he is not his dad.

I would be tempted to sue too as I hate dishonesty but would probably think about how this would impact on the child.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

No winners but do you have sympathy for the male ?

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yes but let's hope the child who believes he's his dad doesn't suffer

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By *iss_tressWoman over a year ago

London

From what I read she knew he wasn't the father. So now you have a devastated man and a child caught in the middle.

Her son will appreciate her fucking up his life. What was she thinking?

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By *r Costa xxMan over a year ago

stirling

"From what I read she knew he wasn't the father. So now you have a devastated man and a child caught in the middle.

Her son will appreciate her fucking up his life. What was she thinking?"

Probably that she’d get away with it

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By *a LunaWoman over a year ago

South Wales

I think it’s awful for the child. He has grown up thinking he has this man as his father.

Yes it’s devastating to realise a child is not your own. But once the bombshell has eased off surely you think of yourself as their dad regardless because you raised them. And you still put their best interest at heart.

You think to yourself “your mother is a cockwomble, but i’m still here for you” and you move on as best you can.

What does suing the mother for financial reasons gain? What is that showing the kid? To me it says “Yeah you only mattered to me when i thought i was biologically your dad, but as it turns out i’m not, you can do one”.

Yes she lied. Yes she was wrong.

But this kid has a mother who deceived his “dad” and him, and a father who is putting his feelings and emotions above that of a kid to exact revenge on his mother.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yes I have sympathy for the guy. If she knew and didn't tell him she should pay everything back. She's sick.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think it’s awful for the child. He has grown up thinking he has this man as his father.

You think to yourself “your mother is a cockwomble, but i’m still here for you” and you move on as best you can.

Yes she lied. Yes she was wrong.

But this kid has a mother who deceived his “dad” and him, and a father who is putting his feelings and emotions above that of a kid to exact revenge on his mother.

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

I have complete sympathy for the kid.

Not knowing the circumstances or the way the guy behaved in the relationship I can't say how much sympathy I have for him.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

No winners in this one I'm afraid. The child is the innocent party though. That should take precedence.

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"No winners in this one I'm afraid. The child is the innocent party though. That should take precedence. "

Yep! I'm often amazed at adults ability to put their own need for revenge above the well being of children.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"No winners in this one I'm afraid. The child is the innocent party though. That should take precedence.

Yep! I'm often amazed at adults ability to put their own need for revenge above the well being of children."

This ^^^

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

I would sue the bitch

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"No winners in this one I'm afraid. The child is the innocent party though. That should take precedence.

Yep! I'm often amazed at adults ability to put their own need for revenge above the well being of children."

She conned him out of money. For 8 years, could be thousands. He should get it back. The child is an innocent party and not relevant to the court issue.

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

And the judge says a social worker should tell him.at the right time.. cop out..

The boy should know the truth..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

How about suing the biological father, too?

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

I would hand the child over to the biological father..

Sue her, Sue him and not lie to the child.. when he is eighteen then try and explain that the last ten years were a lie..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Cuckoo cuckoo

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I find this incredibly sad. Yes is dishonest and the guy probably feels like it's the ultimate betrayal of their relationship. The woman has apparently been living a lie, with all the potential pain that may have caused her,...

Yet the child has lost a dad, a family, a home, maybe even trust in his mother, and has, or will have his life turned upside down by having lived a lie without ever knowing it.

Adults fuck up our lives all to often, and the fallout may not be felt until years later.

Whilst the child deserves better parents, perhaps, it's a story of hurt and pain, which money and lawsuits can never change...

And perhaps one that we should not be sitting in judgement over in a forum, no matter what personal views we hold....

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By *adbury girlWoman over a year ago

Lanarkshire

"And the judge says a social worker should tell him.at the right time.. cop out..

The boy should know the truth.. "

I think mum and your friend should tell him together and if he is going to be part of the boys life then reassure him he is still very much loved. Although even if he is not going to be part of the boys life he should explain why so the child can try to understand what is going on.

It’s important a child knows they haven’t done anything wrong very quickly as they will grow up wondering what they did and disliking themselves.

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

Not judgement.. only what I would do.. send him to boarding school and holiday activities.. it's not my child.. not my responsibility..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think that the lady is despicable and rotten to the core for doing that x the boy and the guy who brought him up will never get over something like that x shame on her xx

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By *ex HolesMan over a year ago

Up North

How could you automatically not love a child you’ve brought up as your own for all those years? Yes things will be different knowing now what he does but surely he would still have paternal feelings for him.

I’d still call the kid my own, I’m not so sure however what good would come of the father trying to sue the mother though?

She’s a bitch pure and simple.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

No winners but do you have sympathy for the male ?

Yup. Shameful behaviour from his ex. Take her to the cleaners."
men are cheating on their girlfriends wife all the time on here and think nothing of it...a wife cheats and im by no means saying it was good but women are the ones who bear the children she may not have realised who the father was .he shouldnt sue her as the child suffers hes connected with the child surely he should think of that person

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

She is a bitch...if I found out that her lover was married when they had the affair I would take the boy to their home on Christmas Eve and hand him over in exchange for the present he gave me... Not Christmas Day. That would be callous... This makes my blood boil

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"She is a bitch...if I found out that her lover was married when they had the affair I would take the boy to their home on Christmas Eve and hand him over in exchange for the present he gave me... Not Christmas Day. That would be callous... This makes my blood boil "
and what has the child done to deserve that

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

I blame the mother.. the truth will come out so why delay..

He screwed my marriage ..

Why would I protect his

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"I blame the mother.. the truth will come out so why delay..

He screwed my marriage ..

Why would I protect his "

is this you?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I blame the mother.. the truth will come out so why delay..

He screwed my marriage ..

Why would I protect his

is this you? "
seems like hes very invested could well be

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By *gnitemybodyWoman over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

Yes most definitely that's awful,but I'm sure I would hope he would still see her as his daughter,as I'm sure the daughter still sees him as her dad. I haven't read the full story so don't know any details.

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

I don't have children but all humans are resilient. the mother and the lover should be held to account.. I would not treat a B as my own

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Hope the boy copes with it x i would imagine that it would make him go off the rails. Hope karma comes back and bites her arse. Absolutely one of the worst things you could do to the 2 closest people in your life

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"I don't have children but all humans are resilient. the mother and the lover should be held to account.. I would not treat a B as my own "

you've made that pretty clear. Do you feel any sympathy for the child at all? I mean boarding school and handing a child over to a family he doesn't know on boxing day is pretty harsh

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

And would the dad pay university fees.. not on your Nellie

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

"I don't have children but all humans are resilient. the mother and the lover should be held to account.. I would not treat a B as my own

you've made that pretty clear. Do you feel any sympathy for the child at all? I mean boarding school and handing a child over to a family he doesn't know on boxing day is pretty harsh"

I said Christmas Eve

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Way i see it i would love the child as mine as it would me

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

Fill your boots my old china..

Not for me... We are not all the same

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"I don't have children but all humans are resilient. the mother and the lover should be held to account.. I would not treat a B as my own

you've made that pretty clear. Do you feel any sympathy for the child at all? I mean boarding school and handing a child over to a family he doesn't know on boxing day is pretty harsh

I said Christmas Eve

oh that's ok then!

Its a bit like a Dickens novel

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By *gnitemybodyWoman over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

"I don't have children but all humans are resilient. the mother and the lover should be held to account.. I would not treat a B as my own "

A B what's a B?

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"I don't have children but all humans are resilient. the mother and the lover should be held to account.. I would not treat a B as my own

A B what's a B?"

id like to think its baby but I suspect not

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

"I don't have children but all humans are resilient. the mother and the lover should be held to account.. I would not treat a B as my own

A B what's a B?"

You must know..

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By *adbury girlWoman over a year ago

Lanarkshire

"I don't have children but all humans are resilient. the mother and the lover should be held to account.. I would not treat a B as my own

A B what's a B?"

Presuming he means illegitimate child

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don't have children but all humans are resilient. the mother and the lover should be held to account.. I would not treat a B as my own

you've made that pretty clear. Do you feel any sympathy for the child at all? I mean boarding school and handing a child over to a family he doesn't know on boxing day is pretty harsh

I said Christmas Eve

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wow just wow guess its true what they say about southerners then

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By *gnitemybodyWoman over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

"I don't have children but all humans are resilient. the mother and the lover should be held to account.. I would not treat a B as my own

A B what's a B?

id like to think its baby but I suspect not"

I'm just trying to confirm it's not what I think it is,because that's pretty disgusting if it is.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Anyone aware of the stats on how many men are bringing up others kids without knowing?

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By *gnitemybodyWoman over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

"I don't have children but all humans are resilient. the mother and the lover should be held to account.. I would not treat a B as my own

A B what's a B?

You must know.. "

Nope tell me.

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By *adbury girlWoman over a year ago

Lanarkshire

"I don't have children but all humans are resilient. the mother and the lover should be held to account.. I would not treat a B as my own "

To be honest this statement makes you as callous as the mother. To use that phrase is disgusting in any situation but about an 8 year old child is despicable

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

"Anyone aware of the stats on how many men are bringing up others kids without knowing? "

Makes me wonder !

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By *musedforlifeMan over a year ago

Scunthorpe

Tough one, but I'd sit down one day and say I may not be your biological father but i am your Dad, and always will be. Not the kids fault. And, you can't raise a kid for 8 years without loving them unconditionally. You can't just turn those feelings off, and, if you can you dont deserve to be a parent.

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By *gnitemybodyWoman over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

"Tough one, but I'd sit down one day and say I may not be your biological father but i am your Dad, and always will be. Not the kids fault. And, you can't raise a kid for 8 years without loving them unconditionally. You can't just turn those feelings off, and, if you can you dont deserve to be a parent."

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

Agreed

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By *horehouseprincessWoman over a year ago

small town near Munich

So the guy thought for 8 years the child is his. Then the bomb drops and while its not 'his' child anymore he surely must feel something? I mean he loved this child for 8 years.. can you switch that off just like that?

I'd hope he'd think a lil more of the child first and then the mother who might deserve being dragged to court and all that. But the kid sure doesnt.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don't have children but all humans are resilient. the mother and the lover should be held to account.. I would not treat a B as my own "

What an awful point of view !

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By *SAchickWoman over a year ago

Hillside desolate

"I don't have children"

Good

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Concur! Like having an adopted child surely?

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

But if I did I would want my own not another's..

Cuckoo's not welcome here..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"But if I did I would want my own not another's..

Cuckoo's not welcome here..

Oh dear. Please don’t reproduce

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By *adbury girlWoman over a year ago

Lanarkshire

"But if I did I would want my own not another's..

Cuckoo's not welcome here..

I don’t think anyone has posted anything inappropriate to your thread so no cuckoos about.

You appear to agree with - You can't just turn those feelings off, and, if you can you dont deserve to be a parent - yet you called the child a B and said you couldn’t love him! Doesn’t seem to make sense

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

If I do then I hope they are truly mine..

Anyone in doubt try a DNA test..

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By *arlomaleMan over a year ago

darlington

I bet he hates that song oh Annie I’m not your daddy

remember the poor blokes who’s 3 kids he thought where his actually weren’t and his scrubber of an ex wife fleeced the poor bloke out of 4 million quid I’m sure he tried to get it back not sure how he got on I think he was the guy behind the money supermarket.com

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By *innie The MinxWoman over a year ago

Under the Duvet

I'm not here to judge other people when I only know a fraction if the true story.

I feel sorry for all involved, but particularly for the little kid. Sueing his mum isn't going to make a shit situation any better.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I agree sueing the mother wouldn't help anyone x but the guy must be sick as a pig . I don't think that he will ever get over something like that

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm not here to judge other people when I only know a fraction if the true story.

I feel sorry for all involved, but particularly for the little kid. Sueing his mum isn't going to make a shit situation any better.

Agree. I’m all for honesty but if they don’t know real father, how is this good? I’d bring him up as my own and never tell him as serves no purpose.

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

Medal to you sir but for me. We are all different

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Medal to you sir but for me. We are all different

Yes and some have empathy and some don’t

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

"Medal to you sir but for me. We are all different

Yes and some have empathy and some don’t "

Correct Sir..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Medal to you sir but for me. We are all different

Yes and some have empathy and some don’t

Correct Sir..

I even empathise with people who have none.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

No winners but do you have sympathy for the male ?

How sad

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

"Medal to you sir but for me. We are all different

Yes and some have empathy and some don’t

Correct Sir..

I even empathise with people who have none."

Thank you Sir

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By *ollydoesWoman over a year ago

Shangri-La

What a sad situation .for the boy and the dad. Just curious tho, and I'm not in away defending this woman's actions, but do we know anything behind the main headline? Was the father someone she just had a fling with or affair? Or something more to it? Like I say I dont condone what she did just question why she did it...

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By *icketysplitsWoman over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

Hmmm

There will be men raising children that are not biologically theirs. Should a child suffer because of that?

There are men who happily drop their seed and impregnate women with no intention of raising that child. Should a child suffer because of that?

There are women who get pregnant deliberately. Should a child suffer because of that?

Perfect people on this thread ready to condemn a woman a "evil" and condemn a child for circumstances outside their control.

Sleep well in your perfect lives where no mistake has ever been made.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Hmmm

There will be men raising children that are not biologically theirs. Should a child suffer because of that?

There are men who happily drop their seed and impregnate women with no intention of raising that child. Should a child suffer because of that?

There are women who get pregnant deliberately. Should a child suffer because of that?

Perfect people on this thread ready to condemn a woman a "evil" and condemn a child for circumstances outside their control.

Sleep well in your perfect lives where no mistake has ever been made."

Well said!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I ain't going to win nothing in the end.. just the other way around ! Can understand his frustration but he will lose the child too eventually when his older enough to understand all around properly

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By *ollydoesWoman over a year ago

Shangri-La

"I ain't going to win nothing in the end.. just the other way around ! Can understand his frustration but he will lose the child too eventually when his older enough to understand all around properly "

Why will he " lose" the child tho? Even when they are told the truth.

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

It's not his child though

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

MGTOW has just swelled its ranks by 1.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Hmmm

There will be men raising children that are not biologically theirs. Should a child suffer because of that?

There are men who happily drop their seed and impregnate women with no intention of raising that child. Should a child suffer because of that?

There are women who get pregnant deliberately. Should a child suffer because of that?

Perfect people on this thread ready to condemn a woman a "evil" and condemn a child for circumstances outside their control.

Sleep well in your perfect lives where no mistake has ever been made."

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By *-4pleasureCouple over a year ago

Belfast

"This unfortunately happens a lot and the only one that gets hurt in the end is the child

I think you’ll find the non biological father got hurt

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

I would never bring up a child that is not my own...

Foster carers and adopters respect to you

But please don't trick me into raising a child that's not mine...

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman over a year ago

On a mooch

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman over a year ago

On a mooch

It’s a sad day whenever a family unit breaks down for whatever reason.

However, it’s the two adults that need to act like adults, no matter what has gone on between them, to ensure that any children involved are continued to be cared for and looked after.

It sickens me when I hear or see the children being used as bargaining chips in the adults war. You really think you’re hurting the other adult, to an extent maybe, but the real person you are hurting is the child.

The one unconditional love you have in your life and you are happy to hurt them because your hurting and seeking revenge, whether it be telling them how you feel about the other parent; refusing them to see the other parent, etc

Your only thoughts should be for the child, it’s not their fault things didn’t work. Their world is already changing and they don’t really understand why and then all you can think to do is continue to hurt them.

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

Things are going full circle in this society..

I would bring back work houses

It's not as bad as it sounds

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By *irkydirkyMan over a year ago

kells

She is poison, and inevitably it’ll be up to her if she tells her son or not..

Sympathy?? Of course..

Chances are the son will never know..

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"She is poison, and inevitably it’ll be up to her if she tells her son or not..

Sympathy?? Of course..

Chances are the son will never know.. "

The judge has ruled that he should be told.

Without knowing the full circumstances here I'd be reluctant to call her poison

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

Well she tricked her husband and played him for a fool...

What other word would you use to describe her...

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"Well she tricked her husband and played him for a fool...

What other word would you use to describe her..."

I don't know the full story I'm not going to call any of them anything

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman over a year ago

On a mooch

"She is poison, and inevitably it’ll be up to her if she tells her son or not..

Sympathy?? Of course..

Chances are the son will never know..

The judge has ruled that he should be told.

Without knowing the full circumstances here I'd be reluctant to call her poison "

Precisely, there are always two sides to each story. What you know is what has been reported.

Amazing some of the words being used against the mother in this thread, always so quick to judge without the facts

But hey that is our society isn’t, everyone thinks they are better than another and judge only on what they are told by others. It’s a sad, hateful world that we are living in !

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By *irkydirkyMan over a year ago

kells

"She is poison, and inevitably it’ll be up to her if she tells her son or not..

Sympathy?? Of course..

Chances are the son will never know..

The judge has ruled that he should be told.

Without knowing the full circumstances here I'd be reluctant to call her poison "

If the judge ruled in the guys favour it’s obvious that she misled him the whole time..

And the judge only advised, didn’t make a ruling on it..

So yeah.. she’s poisonous

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"She is poison, and inevitably it’ll be up to her if she tells her son or not..

Sympathy?? Of course..

Chances are the son will never know..

The judge has ruled that he should be told.

Without knowing the full circumstances here I'd be reluctant to call her poison

Precisely, there are always two sides to each story. What you know is what has been reported.

Amazing some of the words being used against the mother in this thread, always so quick to judge without the facts

But hey that is our society isn’t, everyone thinks they are better than another and judge only on what they are told by others. It’s a sad, hateful world that we are living in !

"
but i am better

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By *gnitemybodyWoman over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

"Things are going full circle in this society..

I would bring back work houses

It's not as bad as it sounds "

Are you really 48?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Dunk her in a lake if she floats she’s guilty but if she sinks to the bottom still guilty

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

The facts are that she had a lover, got pregnant, and passed off the son as her husband's. The judge acknowledged this as fact. The boy will be told the truth as directed by social services.

It's simple really..

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"She is poison, and inevitably it’ll be up to her if she tells her son or not..

Sympathy?? Of course..

Chances are the son will never know..

The judge has ruled that he should be told.

Without knowing the full circumstances here I'd be reluctant to call her poison

If the judge ruled in the guys favour it’s obvious that she misled him the whole time..

And the judge only advised, didn’t make a ruling on it..

So yeah.. she’s poisonous "

In your opinion.

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

"Things are going full circle in this society..

I would bring back work houses

It's not as bad as it sounds

Are you really 48?"

It will give people food and shelter and a wage...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The child will see him as his father weather or not and doing that will hurt the child more than the mother ..

well said. He’s still been a father, he obviously cares for the child or he wouldn’t be so hurt. Punishing the mother financially won’t heal him and will only hurt the child who is innocent. I feel for the guy, she did wrong, but he should instead divorce her and be sure to protect his rights to the child he has loved since before birth.

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

"Dunk her in a lake if she floats she’s guilty but if she sinks to the bottom still guilty "

Traditional Norfolk practice..

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"Dunk her in a lake if she floats she’s guilty but if she sinks to the bottom still guilty "

I think it's clear she had a baby that wasn't her husbands and didn't tell him.

Apparently she's awful and he's a poor thing. Mind you that makes a nice change its usually the other way round on fab

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I also think there’s always more to the story and it’s hard for us to judge. I don’t know if the judge is right, because no matter when the child is told it will cause pain. Might be better younger as younger kids can adapt easier to understanding unusual family structures.

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman over a year ago

On a mooch

"The facts are that she had a lover, got pregnant, and passed off the son as her husband's. The judge acknowledged this as fact. The boy will be told the truth as directed by social services.

It's simple really..

Obviously to your brain it’s there in black and white so of course it’s simple

You have no idea of the circumstances of why she took that decision, neither of us have

You never know what choice you will make in any situation until you are personally faced with it, so who are you to judge someone you don’t know !!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The facts are that she had a lover, got pregnant, and passed off the son as her husband's. The judge acknowledged this as fact. The boy will be told the truth as directed by social services.

It's simple really..

"
if thats the case shes wrong but that child still has a bond with a man it calls its father so regardless of how they got there he is still a dad unless he is sick enough to just throw the child away like a used rubber that would make him just as bad as her

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

As an adult how would you feel if they wait a decade to tell him...more betrayl. I would be furious in his shoes. He may well sue the social services and good luck to him

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

How would she know who the father was tho theres no label when babys come out maybe she was hoping it was the hubbys

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

"The facts are that she had a lover, got pregnant, and passed off the son as her husband's. The judge acknowledged this as fact. The boy will be told the truth as directed by social services.

It's simple really..

Obviously to your brain it’s there in black and white so of course it’s simple

You have no idea of the circumstances of why she took that decision, neither of us have

You never know what choice you will make in any situation until you are personally faced with it, so who are you to judge someone you don’t know !! "

Black and White for me. Ultimate Betrayal. Rid of both. End of

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

This shit happens everyday dont get where the story is or why social services are involved unless shes hurting the kid

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

"This shit happens everyday dont get where the story is or why social services are involved unless shes hurting the kid"

The judge involved them.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Paternity fraud is a big issue and probably more common than people think. I feel for the man and child.

It seems women can get away with this without any recourse. Little or no anger at the woman.

If a man had been defrauding a lady on a daily basis, I am sure there would be an outcry on here.

It seems when children are involved, a woman has all of the cards and the default position is to side with the woman.

Hopefully the man won the case

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"This shit happens everyday dont get where the story is or why social services are involved unless shes hurting the kid"

Are social services involved? I've only read the op.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The facts are that she had a lover, got pregnant, and passed off the son as her husband's. The judge acknowledged this as fact. The boy will be told the truth as directed by social services.

It's simple really..

Obviously to your brain it’s there in black and white so of course it’s simple

You have no idea of the circumstances of why she took that decision, neither of us have

You never know what choice you will make in any situation until you are personally faced with it, so who are you to judge someone you don’t know !!

Black and White for me. Ultimate Betrayal. Rid of both. End of "
never do jury service whatever you do

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"This shit happens everyday dont get where the story is or why social services are involved unless shes hurting the kid

Are social services involved? I've only read the op. "
they decide when the kid finds out about who daddy is

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Dunk her in a lake if she floats she’s guilty but if she sinks to the bottom still guilty

Traditional Norfolk practice..

Oh absolutely

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

"never do jury service whatever you do"

It's not a lone decision. 12 people of different backgrounds and opinions..

Try it sometime...

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By *abioMan over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

i am sure that any money the man gets from the wife she will be able to then get in child support from the lover......

after all... he has been supporting a child that wasn't his... and she knew it....

you mean thats not the way the world works!!!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"never do jury service whatever you do

It's not a lone decision. 12 people of different backgrounds and opinions..

Try it sometime..."
i have done

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

"Dunk her in a lake if she floats she’s guilty but if she sinks to the bottom still guilty

Traditional Norfolk practice..

Oh absolutely "

They still point at planes in Norfolk

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By *irkydirkyMan over a year ago

kells

"She is poison, and inevitably it’ll be up to her if she tells her son or not..

Sympathy?? Of course..

Chances are the son will never know..

The judge has ruled that he should be told.

Without knowing the full circumstances here I'd be reluctant to call her poison

If the judge ruled in the guys favour it’s obvious that she misled him the whole time..

And the judge only advised, didn’t make a ruling on it..

So yeah.. she’s poisonous

In your opinion. "

And as you are entitled to yours

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"She is poison, and inevitably it’ll be up to her if she tells her son or not..

Sympathy?? Of course..

Chances are the son will never know..

The judge has ruled that he should be told.

Without knowing the full circumstances here I'd be reluctant to call her poison

If the judge ruled in the guys favour it’s obvious that she misled him the whole time..

And the judge only advised, didn’t make a ruling on it..

So yeah.. she’s poisonous

In your opinion.

And as you are entitled to yours

Yes. That's the whole point of discussion such as this.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Guys go round like rogue lions dropping babys globally some girls cant leave there hubbys for whatever reason and fall pregnant having a bit of fun yes i know guys do this too knock mistresses up its just life this im gonna sue you bollox tho is the death of this country brexits nothing compared

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By *irkydirkyMan over a year ago

kells

"She is poison, and inevitably it’ll be up to her if she tells her son or not..

Sympathy?? Of course..

Chances are the son will never know..

The judge has ruled that he should be told.

Without knowing the full circumstances here I'd be reluctant to call her poison

If the judge ruled in the guys favour it’s obvious that she misled him the whole time..

And the judge only advised, didn’t make a ruling on it..

So yeah.. she’s poisonous

In your opinion.

And as you are entitled to yours

Yes. That's the whole point of discussion such as this. "

Bit strange that you are siding with poison..

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman over a year ago

On a mooch

I’m going to say no more, as if I do I will get a ban, but damn some comments beggars belief

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

"Guys go round like rogue lions dropping babys globally some girls cant leave there hubbys for whatever reason and fall pregnant having a bit of fun yes i know guys do this too knock mistresses up its just life this im gonna sue you bollox tho is the death of this country brexits nothing compared"

Brexit is interesting.. try being a woman 'knocked up' in Italy or the ROI.

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

It's weird how people bring Brexit into every debate...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Dunk her in a lake if she floats she’s guilty but if she sinks to the bottom still guilty

Traditional Norfolk practice..

Oh absolutely

They still point at planes in Norfolk "

Nah throw spuds at them , git Oorf my laaand

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"She is poison, and inevitably it’ll be up to her if she tells her son or not..

Sympathy?? Of course..

Chances are the son will never know..

The judge has ruled that he should be told.

Without knowing the full circumstances here I'd be reluctant to call her poison

If the judge ruled in the guys favour it’s obvious that she misled him the whole time..

And the judge only advised, didn’t make a ruling on it..

So yeah.. she’s poisonous

In your opinion.

And as you are entitled to yours

Yes. That's the whole point of discussion such as this.

Bit strange that you are siding with poison.. "

Misunderstood at first.

I'm not siding with the woman. I don't know the whole story so I don't want to call anyone poison

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

"I’m going to say no more, as if I do I will get a ban, but damn some comments beggars belief

Please do

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Not judgement.. only what I would do.. send him to boarding school and holiday activities.. it's not my child.. not my responsibility..

Boarding schools cost who's footing the bill?

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman over a year ago

On a mooch

"I’m going to say no more, as if I do I will get a ban, but damn some comments beggars belief

Please do

I’ve better things to do with my time than continue a discussion with closed minded individuals

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

"I’m going to say no more, as if I do I will get a ban, but damn some comments beggars belief

Please do

I’ve better things to do with my time than continue a discussion with closed minded individuals"

And that is the construct..

The liberal illiberals who cannot stand any point of view other than their own..

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

"Not judgement.. only what I would do.. send him to boarding school and holiday activities.. it's not my child.. not my responsibility..

Boarding schools cost who's footing the bill?"

To be fair I have changed my mind on that one. No I would not pay..

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"Not judgement.. only what I would do.. send him to boarding school and holiday activities.. it's not my child.. not my responsibility..

Boarding schools cost who's footing the bill?"

With any luck it'll be Hogwarts and they don't seem to charge

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I’m going to say no more, as if I do I will get a ban, but damn some comments beggars belief

Please do

I’ve better things to do with my time than continue a discussion with closed minded individuals

And that is the construct..

The liberal illiberals who cannot stand any point of view other than their own..

Or just fed up with people who have no empathy or sympathy and are basically without a touch of caring

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

"Not judgement.. only what I would do.. send him to boarding school and holiday activities.. it's not my child.. not my responsibility..

Boarding schools cost who's footing the bill?

With any luck it'll be Hogwarts and they don't seem to charge

Son of a witch...probably well suited

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman over a year ago

On a mooch

"I’m going to say no more, as if I do I will get a ban, but damn some comments beggars belief

Please do

I’ve better things to do with my time than continue a discussion with closed minded individuals

And that is the construct..

The liberal illiberals who cannot stand any point of view other than their own..

Far from a liberal and always open to other people’s point of views, but when then smack of pre-judgment and to use a word already used here “poison” I won’t be drawn into hate filled debate

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"i am sure that any money the man gets from the wife she will be able to then get in child support from the lover......

after all... he has been supporting a child that wasn't his... and she knew it....

you mean thats not the way the world works!!!!"

Good point

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

"I’m going to say no more, as if I do I will get a ban, but damn some comments beggars belief

Please do

I’ve better things to do with my time than continue a discussion with closed minded individuals

And that is the construct..

The liberal illiberals who cannot stand any point of view other than their own..

Far from a liberal and always open to other people’s point of views, but when then smack of pre-judgment and to use a word already used here “poison” I won’t be drawn into hate filled debate "

I am not the judge here. The court judged..

It's post judgement not prejudgement..

It's not hate filled debate from me. I stand that I would not support a family that is not mine chick

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

"I’m going to say no more, as if I do I will get a ban, but damn some comments beggars belief

Please do

I’ve better things to do with my time than continue a discussion with closed minded individuals

And that is the construct..

The liberal illiberals who cannot stand any point of view other than their own..

Or just fed up with people who have no empathy or sympathy and are basically without a touch of caring "

Thought you had empathy Sir

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By *irkydirkyMan over a year ago

kells

"She is poison, and inevitably it’ll be up to her if she tells her son or not..

Sympathy?? Of course..

Chances are the son will never know..

The judge has ruled that he should be told.

Without knowing the full circumstances here I'd be reluctant to call her poison

If the judge ruled in the guys favour it’s obvious that she misled him the whole time..

And the judge only advised, didn’t make a ruling on it..

So yeah.. she’s poisonous

In your opinion.

And as you are entitled to yours

Yes. That's the whole point of discussion such as this.

Bit strange that you are siding with poison..

Misunderstood at first.

I'm not siding with the woman. I don't know the whole story so I don't want to call anyone poison"

What more information do you need?

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"She is poison, and inevitably it’ll be up to her if she tells her son or not..

Sympathy?? Of course..

Chances are the son will never know..

The judge has ruled that he should be told.

Without knowing the full circumstances here I'd be reluctant to call her poison

If the judge ruled in the guys favour it’s obvious that she misled him the whole time..

And the judge only advised, didn’t make a ruling on it..

So yeah.. she’s poisonous

In your opinion.

And as you are entitled to yours

Yes. That's the whole point of discussion such as this.

Bit strange that you are siding with poison..

Misunderstood at first.

I'm not siding with the woman. I don't know the whole story so I don't want to call anyone poison

What more information do you need? "

Plenty before I'll call someone I don't know names.

On the face of the information I have she's entirely in the wrong. I don't dispute that, if I was her husband I'd be raging.

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

I would be a bit annoyed too...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"She is poison, and inevitably it’ll be up to her if she tells her son or not..

Sympathy?? Of course..

Chances are the son will never know..

The judge has ruled that he should be told.

Without knowing the full circumstances here I'd be reluctant to call her poison

If the judge ruled in the guys favour it’s obvious that she misled him the whole time..

And the judge only advised, didn’t make a ruling on it..

So yeah.. she’s poisonous

In your opinion.

And as you are entitled to yours

Yes. That's the whole point of discussion such as this.

Bit strange that you are siding with poison..

Misunderstood at first.

I'm not siding with the woman. I don't know the whole story so I don't want to call anyone poison

What more information do you need?

Plenty before I'll call someone I don't know names.

On the face of the information I have she's entirely in the wrong. I don't dispute that, if I was her husband I'd be raging.

Fucks sake, she may have been a cheat but it doesn’t alter the fact that bringing up a child is the main thing! Don’t make child suffer, don’t air it public. Do what’s best for child AND forgive mother. If you have and morals that is

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It’s a sad day whenever a family unit breaks down for whatever reason.

However, it’s the two adults that need to act like adults, no matter what has gone on between them, to ensure that any children involved are continued to be cared for and looked after.

I agree but do we know the guy has walked away? Perhaps he's taken her to court for the money but he's still in the child's life.

Many men bring up other men's kids but they know about it. If she lied to him that's on her.

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman over a year ago

On a mooch

"I’m going to say no more, as if I do I will get a ban, but damn some comments beggars belief

Please do

I’ve better things to do with my time than continue a discussion with closed minded individuals

And that is the construct..

The liberal illiberals who cannot stand any point of view other than their own..

Far from a liberal and always open to other people’s point of views, but when then smack of pre-judgment and to use a word already used here “poison” I won’t be drawn into hate filled debate

I am not the judge here. The court judged..

It's post judgement not prejudgement..

It's not hate filled debate from me. I stand that I would not support a family that is not mine chick

My mistake post judgment and based only on facts written in the press, unless you were the judge in this case and heard every word spoken and every document produced !

I would say some of your words and phrases aimed at this individual, you do not know, have a hateful tone indeed

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"She is poison, and inevitably it’ll be up to her if she tells her son or not..

Sympathy?? Of course..

Chances are the son will never know..

The judge has ruled that he should be told.

Without knowing the full circumstances here I'd be reluctant to call her poison

If the judge ruled in the guys favour it’s obvious that she misled him the whole time..

And the judge only advised, didn’t make a ruling on it..

So yeah.. she’s poisonous

In your opinion.

And as you are entitled to yours

Yes. That's the whole point of discussion such as this.

Bit strange that you are siding with poison..

Misunderstood at first.

I'm not siding with the woman. I don't know the whole story so I don't want to call anyone poison

What more information do you need?

Plenty before I'll call someone I don't know names.

On the face of the information I have she's entirely in the wrong. I don't dispute that, if I was her husband I'd be raging.

I'm not saying anything if the sort. I've actually argued against the course of action he's taken

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

Forgive her.. if this happened to me I would give up smoking, lose 3 stone, stop drinking and take exercise classes just so that my life expectancy improves just so that I could hate her for longer and I am not a bitter man...

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman over a year ago

On a mooch

"It’s a sad day whenever a family unit breaks down for whatever reason.

However, it’s the two adults that need to act like adults, no matter what has gone on between them, to ensure that any children involved are continued to be cared for and looked after.

I agree but do we know the guy has walked away? Perhaps he's taken her to court for the money but he's still in the child's life.

Many men bring up other men's kids but they know about it. If she lied to him that's on her. "

Agree Mavis we don’t know what the man has decided to do in relation to the child.

My comments were general and fuelled by his decision to sue the mother and what I see and hear every day

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

My comments are based on the scenario and not the individual.. I am no hater..

I don't even know the people but I can read a court case ..

In full.. and understand it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It’s a sad day whenever a family unit breaks down for whatever reason.

However, it’s the two adults that need to act like adults, no matter what has gone on between them, to ensure that any children involved are continued to be cared for and looked after.

I agree but do we know the guy has walked away? Perhaps he's taken her to court for the money but he's still in the child's life.

Many men bring up other men's kids but they know about it. If she lied to him that's on her.

Agree Mavis we don’t know what the man has decided to do in relation to the child.

My comments were general and fuelled by his decision to sue the mother and what I see and hear every day "

My comments are general too and based on the info.

I agree we don't know the facts so we can only debate the info we know. My comments are about a hypothetical woman in this scenario, certainly not about her personally. If different facts were discovered my opinion would probably change.

Perhaps her husband was abusive and she daren't tell him she was pregnant with another man's child. But if that was the case the facts would have been given to the judge too.

Maybe.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"My comments are based on the scenario and not the individual.. I am no hater..

I don't even know the people but I can read a court case ..

In full.. and understand it

Where's the link?

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman over a year ago

On a mooch

"My comments are based on the scenario and not the individual.. I am no hater..

I don't even know the people but I can read a court case ..

In full.. and understand it

Where's the link?"

This ^^^

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By *irkydirkyMan over a year ago

kells

"She is poison, and inevitably it’ll be up to her if she tells her son or not..

Sympathy?? Of course..

Chances are the son will never know..

The judge has ruled that he should be told.

Without knowing the full circumstances here I'd be reluctant to call her poison

If the judge ruled in the guys favour it’s obvious that she misled him the whole time..

And the judge only advised, didn’t make a ruling on it..

So yeah.. she’s poisonous

In your opinion.

And as you are entitled to yours

Yes. That's the whole point of discussion such as this.

Bit strange that you are siding with poison..

Misunderstood at first.

I'm not siding with the woman. I don't know the whole story so I don't want to call anyone poison

What more information do you need?

Plenty before I'll call someone I don't know names.

On the face of the information I have she's entirely in the wrong. I don't dispute that, if I was her husband I'd be raging.

They are nothing to him, so why shouldn’t he.. the kids not his problem and he has no obligation to be anyone’s hero.. blame the lying piece of crap, clean her, and walk away...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"She is poison, and inevitably it’ll be up to her if she tells her son or not..

Sympathy?? Of course..

Chances are the son will never know..

The judge has ruled that he should be told.

Without knowing the full circumstances here I'd be reluctant to call her poison

If the judge ruled in the guys favour it’s obvious that she misled him the whole time..

And the judge only advised, didn’t make a ruling on it..

So yeah.. she’s poisonous

In your opinion.

And as you are entitled to yours

Yes. That's the whole point of discussion such as this.

Bit strange that you are siding with poison..

Misunderstood at first.

I'm not siding with the woman. I don't know the whole story so I don't want to call anyone poison

What more information do you need?

Plenty before I'll call someone I don't know names.

On the face of the information I have she's entirely in the wrong. I don't dispute that, if I was her husband I'd be raging.

They are nothing to him, so why shouldn’t he.. the kids not his problem and he has no obligation to be anyone’s hero.. blame the lying piece of crap, clean her, and walk away...

But the child he’s brought up for 8 years? And women who may have made one mistake? Christ

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"She is poison, and inevitably it’ll be up to her if she tells her son or not..

Sympathy?? Of course..

Chances are the son will never know..

The judge has ruled that he should be told.

Without knowing the full circumstances here I'd be reluctant to call her poison

If the judge ruled in the guys favour it’s obvious that she misled him the whole time..

And the judge only advised, didn’t make a ruling on it..

So yeah.. she’s poisonous

In your opinion.

And as you are entitled to yours

Yes. That's the whole point of discussion such as this.

Bit strange that you are siding with poison..

Misunderstood at first.

I'm not siding with the woman. I don't know the whole story so I don't want to call anyone poison

What more information do you need?

Plenty before I'll call someone I don't know names.

On the face of the information I have she's entirely in the wrong. I don't dispute that, if I was her husband I'd be raging.

They are nothing to him, so why shouldn’t he.. the kids not his problem and he has no obligation to be anyone’s hero.. blame the lying piece of crap, clean her, and walk away...

But the child he’s brought up for 8 years? And women who may have made one mistake? Christ

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

One mistake.. ?

It's the ultimate betrayal..

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By *ire_bladeMan over a year ago

Manchester

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

Eight years of lies..

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By *ire_bladeMan over a year ago

Manchester

Exconoyt word. Cant ve failitd

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

I have noticed a gender bias with some of the comments but that is probably to be expected..

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By *irkydirkyMan over a year ago

kells

"She is poison, and inevitably it’ll be up to her if she tells her son or not..

Sympathy?? Of course..

Chances are the son will never know..

The judge has ruled that he should be told.

Without knowing the full circumstances here I'd be reluctant to call her poison

If the judge ruled in the guys favour it’s obvious that she misled him the whole time..

And the judge only advised, didn’t make a ruling on it..

So yeah.. she’s poisonous

In your opinion.

And as you are entitled to yours

Yes. That's the whole point of discussion such as this.

Bit strange that you are siding with poison..

Misunderstood at first.

I'm not siding with the woman. I don't know the whole story so I don't want to call anyone poison

What more information do you need?

Plenty before I'll call someone I don't know names.

On the face of the information I have she's entirely in the wrong. I don't dispute that, if I was her husband I'd be raging.

They are nothing to him, so why shouldn’t he.. the kids not his problem and he has no obligation to be anyone’s hero.. blame the lying piece of crap, clean her, and walk away...

But the child he’s brought up for 8 years? And women who may have made one mistake? Christ "

And the child will now get to meet his real father...

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"I have noticed a gender bias with some of the comments but that is probably to be expected.. "

Yes, it is. I'm trying to think of an equivalent situation where a woman might sue a guy for money where a child's concerned

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

"I have noticed a gender bias with some of the comments but that is probably to be expected..

Yes, it is. I'm trying to think of an equivalent situation where a woman might sue a guy for money where a child's concerned

CSA/CSM.perhaps ? Same result really

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By *good-being-badMan over a year ago

mis-types and auto corrects leads cock leeds

I've not read the stofy..from reading the thread the lady had an affair lied about the paternity and the husband finds out after years of marriage and 'fatherhood'

Lots of couples split due to infidelity, theres threads in the archives about cheats almost daily, sueing the mother for the cash he spent raising anothers child,.bit like child maintenance arrers in reverse.

If only jezza was still on..

Sad state when it gets like this.

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

All I can say is that I would be a tad sad if it happened to me

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I have noticed a gender bias with some of the comments but that is probably to be expected.. "
its been quite even

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

As OP on balance most have agreed with my standpoint...

Last word to you

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