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Do you believe in time travel
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 I am open minded about it | |||
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"I love those things...like the woman with the mobile phone in olden days I am open minded about it "Yes we watched that to I should be cleaning but hey hes watching stuff I like for a change better than some idiot playing with toys lol Mrscxxx | |||
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"It is theoretically possible , but why has nobody come back to the present day from the future to prove it to us ??" Better times that they go to instead | |||
"It is theoretically possible , but why has nobody come back to the present day from the future to prove it to us ??" There was some one not that long ago who claimed he was from the past and he time traveled etc Mrscxxx | |||
"You can buy a genuine Flux Capacitor so I guess it's definitely possible. " Say what now? Am thick so please don’t use big words lol Mrscxxx | |||
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"I guess 10,000 years ago they’d think the idea of some of the technologies we have now seem impossible. So maybe it is real!" I agree but then agen if you watch back to the future they expected us all have to have jet packs and things like that Mrscxxx | |||
"E=mc2 ..so yes" I have no idea what your talking about lol Mrscxxx  | |||
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"So me and my 9 are watching crap on you tube we have just watched something about a train that was built in 1911 and went into a tunnel and never came back out of it, yet there Are sightings of it back in history with no explanation Mrscxxx " that one was a subject of a portal being opened and the train entering it | |||
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"I love those things...like the woman with the mobile phone in olden days I am open minded about it "there is one with a photo of a lady at the jfk assination. | |||
"I guess 10,000 years ago they’d think the idea of some of the technologies we have now seem impossible. So maybe it is real! I agree but then agen if you watch back to the future they expected us all have to have jet packs and things like that Mrscxxx " have you not seen the guy that flies around on the jet powered hoverboard? Reaches over 100 mph so i heard. | |||
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"I was only talking to George Harrison last night about this very thing and we both agreed that it may be possible because as we all know the earth is square but George’s philosophy was that if we were to round off all the edges then it would be possible to interloop the time continuum which would in turn invert and rotate the the earths axis thus shifting time back. I had to leave to get back into the Delorean but I want to finish the conversation as I find a number of weakenesses in his story "  you’re on form today! | |||
"I was only talking to George Harrison last night about this very thing and we both agreed that it may be possible because as we all know the earth is square but George’s philosophy was that if we were to round off all the edges then it would be possible to interloop the time continuum which would in turn invert and rotate the the earths axis thus shifting time back. I had to leave to get back into the Delorean but I want to finish the conversation as I find a number of weakenesses in his story you’re on form today!"I wrote that in 2009. | |||
"I was only talking to George Harrison last night about this very thing and we both agreed that it may be possible because as we all know the earth is square but George’s philosophy was that if we were to round off all the edges then it would be possible to interloop the time continuum which would in turn invert and rotate the the earths axis thus shifting time back. I had to leave to get back into the Delorean but I want to finish the conversation as I find a number of weakenesses in his story you’re on form today!
I wrote that in 2009. " I snorted! | |||
"E=mc2..so yes" That's the equation for creating atomic fusion/fission. | |||
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. I might have spent too long contemplating this subject... | |||
"Its not time travel! We are a computer simulation and all the strange shit are glitches in the programming "You jest but: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulation_hypothesis | |||
"Its not time travel! We are a computer simulation and all the strange shit are glitches in the programming
You jest but:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulation_hypothesis"Who's jesting? | |||
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"Of course you can travel in time. You’ll be telling me Dr Who isn’t real next!" I'm not | |||
"And if someone had visited from the future I wonder if the big governments eg America would have quickly locked him up.if he or she had correctly predicted a couple of things which would have been impossible to know as proof,like say, when the uk left Europe, or when they stop putting meerkat adverts on television. A bit like in the Roswell incident or an episode of The X-Files.. keep watching the skies "Sure some one all ready did that tho and predicted 9 /11 and things I could be wrong but sure I read it some where Mrscxxx | |||
"Its not time travel! We are a computer simulation and all the strange shit are glitches in the programming "Sims we are all sims I believe this like when you walk into a room and forget why that’s because some one cancelled your action he he Mrscxxx | |||
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"I often have strong deja vu moments, so maybe. " its a glitch in the matrix! | |||
"What do we want? ‘Time travel’ When do we want it? ‘It’s irrelevant!’" Good one | |||
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"... one day, when we can travel faster than the speed of light, and it will happen" No. It won't. It's not physically possible. Time travel isn't possible either. Though it does make for some excellent storytelling. A Sound Of Thunder, by Ray Bradbury, is a great short story. | |||
"...the main issue is one of power. We don't yet have a sufficient practical source of power to enable us to travel at the speed of light, or even beyond it. At the moment, we can only harness the power of atoms. When we can harness the power of a star, then it may be possible." Sadly getting to the speed of light isn't just a question of more power . If you accelerate something (with mass) you find that it takes more and more energy to accelerate each little bit as you get faster. In fact, it would take an infinite amount of energy to accelerate something with mass (however small) to the speed of light, so even all the energy in the whole universe isn't enough .
Other possible ways of making time machines have been proposed though. I remember seeing one that involved spinning a heavy enough neutron star fast enough. Nobody was quite sure if it would actually work of if it would reveal some reason why you *couldn't* spin the star that fast.
In any case that type of time machine could only take you back as far as the point at which you created the machine (spun up the star). Which would neatly take care of the "so why don't we see time travellers now?" problem. | |||
"... one day, when we can travel faster than the speed of light, and it will happen No. It won't. It's not physically possible. Time travel isn't possible either. Though it does make for some excellent storytelling. A Sound Of Thunder, by Ray Bradbury, is a great short story." So paradigms are true. Not going sailing again.  | |||
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"It is theoretically possible , but why has nobody come back to the present day from the future to prove it to us ??" They have but the get written off as nutters just as a modern day Jesus would. | |||
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"... one day, when we can travel faster than the speed of light, and it will happen No. It won't. It's not physically possible. Time travel isn't possible either. Though it does make for some excellent storytelling. Don’t be so blinkered.... people said the earth was flat, you could never reach the moon, people even said you would die trying to do a four minute mile until roger banister..... life and technology moves on, you can try and ignore it, but one day travel faster than the speed of light will happen x A Sound Of Thunder, by Ray Bradbury, is a great short story." | |||
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"On faster than light travel. There is an interesting concept called the Alqubierre drive that’s suppose to make the space around you move rather than you move through space. I think you could break light speed using it in theory" As I posted on another recent thread, if you were driving in your car at the speed of light at night and switched your headlights on, would you be able to see anything?  | |||
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Contacting the past
Because any object with mass cannot be accelerated to the speed of light, you are unable to to travel back in time. However, can something with zero mass travel back in time? For example, a radio signal or light itself?
Computers and digital signals are boolean. They only know 2 things, on and off, represented in binary as 1 and 0. Therefore any signal you wish to send back in time only needs these 2 values.
Theoretically, it may be possible if you could accelerate this signal faster than the speed of light and having zero mass, may in some way be possible.
Then there is a real, proven and documented aspect of light called quantum entanglement. We all know light is a wave right? Well actually it is both a wave and a particle at the same time. It remains both until it is measured as one or the other, and then becomes what you measured it as. For example, when you create a beam of light from a laser, it is both a wave and a particle. Once you physically measure the wave, the entire beam from the laser becomes a wave and not a particle. Likewise, once you physically measure the particle, the entire beam from the laser becomes a particle and not a wave.
Interesting but how do you use this to send a signal backwards in time?
It is actually simple. You split the beam from the laser in two, one half going a very short distance and the other half going a very long distance, meaning the short distance reaches it destination first. When you measure the long distance as a wave, the short distance becomes a wave and when you measure the long distance as a particle, the short distance becomes a particle.
The thing about this is that the short distance, reaching its destination first, becomes a wave or particle before you have physically measured the long distance as a wave or particle. By assigning a 1 and 0 to a wave and partial you then have a digital signal.
If the short distance was 0.5s and the long distance was 24hrs, you could then receive a signal over the short distance (of particles and waves representing 1's and 0's) 24hrs before you physically created the signal over the long distance.
A government could effectively create a 24hr warning system for national security purposes... Or maybe they already have  | |||
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"Seems no one has mentioned the LHC at CERN yet some interesting theories surrounding that also Nikola Tesla was supposedly rumoured to have discovered a form of time travel and did you know when he died the US government collected his research (but couldn’t figure a lot of it out so they got independents in to help with it one of those was a relative of president trump) it’s the same technology used in the Philadelphia experiment apparently " I know. Tesla was a genius, completely misunderstood in his time. Crazy but look at history and most people are like that actually. He invented many things we are only just starting to catch up with and able to use today. Wireless electricity being a recent popular one of the many things he did. Like Einstein, the guy had a way to off seeing the world in ways we could never comprehend, the only difference being Einstein was theoretical whereas Tesla was applied physics and actually built things | |||
"It is theoretically possible , but why has nobody come back to the present day from the future to prove it to us ??" time cop prevents this | |||
"Seems no one has mentioned the LHC at CERN yet some interesting theories surrounding that also Nikola Tesla was supposedly rumoured to have discovered a form of time travel and did you know when he died the US government collected his research (but couldn’t figure a lot of it out so they got independents in to help with it one of those was a relative of president trump) it’s the same technology used in the Philadelphia experiment apparently I know. Tesla was a genius, completely misunderstood in his time. Crazy but look at history and most people are like that actually. He invented many things we are only just starting to catch up with and able to use today. Wireless electricity being a recent popular one of the many things he did. Like Einstein, the guy had a way to off seeing the world in ways we could never comprehend, the only difference being Einstein was theoretical whereas Tesla was applied physics and actually built things "As a species we have always been limited by our arrogance. We think we already know everything, so close our minds to other possibilities.. | |||
"Seems no one has mentioned the LHC at CERN yet some interesting theories surrounding that also Nikola Tesla was supposedly rumoured to have discovered a form of time travel and did you know when he died the US government collected his research (but couldn’t figure a lot of it out so they got independents in to help with it one of those was a relative of president trump) it’s the same technology used in the Philadelphia experiment apparently I know. Tesla was a genius, completely misunderstood in his time. Crazy but look at history and most people are like that actually. He invented many things we are only just starting to catch up with and able to use today. Wireless electricity being a recent popular one of the many things he did. Like Einstein, the guy had a way to off seeing the world in ways we could never comprehend, the only difference being Einstein was theoretical whereas Tesla was applied physics and actually built things
As a species we have always been limited by our arrogance. We think we already know everything, so close our minds to other possibilities.."The Earth is flat didn't you know lol | |||
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"It is theoretically possible , but why has nobody come back to the present day from the future to prove it to us ??" They have, bit they get called crazy and are ridiculed. | |||
"It is theoretically possible , but why has nobody come back to the present day from the future to prove it to us ??" Because just imagine the mess it would cause with the governments trying to take advantage of it and the military trying to weapon-is it | |||
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"So me and my 9 are watching crap on you tube we have just watched something about a train that was built in 1911 and went into a tunnel and never came back out of it, yet there Are sightings of it back in history with no explanation Mrscxxx " Sounds like a standard British rail trick back in the day. I was often stood around waiting for trains that never arrived, assumed to be missing | |||
"If you are travelling through time do the kids still keep asking "are we there yet?" "Will we have been there yet?  | |||
"On faster than light travel. There is an interesting concept called the Alqubierre drive that’s suppose to make the space around you move rather than you move through space. I think you could break light speed using it in theory" You can appear to time travel, and you can appear to break the speed of light, but you dont really. Time as we understand it is nothing other than our movement through space. What is 1 second? its a small movement around the sun, nothing more. This means that time is not a real thing and it changes based on your speed. For example people on top of a mountain are actually "time travelling" as they are actually moving through space at a different speed and aging differently to people at sea level. People in space are "time travelling" too, and so are people at the speed of light or beyond it. But really people are just moving at different speeds through space. So to go back in time you have to move the entire earth and suns movement backward. In order for this to work time has to be a real thing, not just a way for us to measure movement. It has to be a real strand that you can remove yourself from and then re-enter at any point. | |||
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"On faster than light travel. There is an interesting concept called the Alqubierre drive that’s suppose to make the space around you move rather than you move through space. I think you could break light speed using it in theory You can appear to time travel, and you can appear to break the speed of light, but you dont really. Time as we understand it is nothing other than our movement through space. What is 1 second? its a small movement around the sun, nothing more. This means that time is not a real thing and it changes based on your speed. For example people on top of a mountain are actually "time travelling" as they are actually moving through space at a different speed and aging differently to people at sea level. People in space are "time travelling" too, and so are people at the speed of light or beyond it. But really people are just moving at different speeds through space. So to go back in time you have to move the entire earth and suns movement backward. In order for this to work time has to be a real thing, not just a way for us to measure movement. It has to be a real strand that you can remove yourself from and then re-enter at any point." MrD I agree with you but also somewhat disagree. Space is different than time where time is the 4th dimension so it is kind of incorrect to say this. However, I understand what you are saying, that time is a measurement which we created a unit, based on the Earth's movement around the sun. I guess it's just a matter of semantics. However, by that logic speed is nothing more than something we created a unit to measure and therefore you can't really travel at different speeds, you only change your relative position to other objects at any given time frame. Everything is relative to everything else around it, whether that's objects, speed, time, temperature, light, etc. So when you say you can't actually step into a machine and step out in another point in time, the answer it actually yes you can and no you can't at the same time. To you, stepping into a machine that generates a time dilation field, the passage of time around you slows down. When you reach the point in the future you wish to travel too, you remove the time dilation field and the passage of time synchronises with the outside world again, allowing you to exit the machine. As far as you are concerned, you have just stepped into the machine and stepped out again in the future. Thus you have just travelled forwards in time relative to yourself. What you are describing is that, relative to the outside world, you haven't really traveled in time at all. Your friend watched you get in the machine, you froze in a kind of suspended animation with no heartbeat etc, then they watched you become "normal" again and step out of the machine. 10 years could have passed that they had visited you, yet you haven't aged a day. It is similar to how it would look to you, and the outside world, if you were cryogenically frozen. It is the premise used in the famous novel The Time Machine by HG Wells and made into a movie. In it, you see time relative to him continue at a normal pace, while time passes faster in the world around him. . The way that time travel would need to work for everyone to see you jump from one point in time to another as you suggest, would be using a wormhole, theoretically from one point in space to any other like a tunnel, they believe could also pass from one point on time to another too. It could happen, but is much less likely to accomplish with our current understanding than traveling forwards by using time dilation. MrD | |||
"If you are travelling through time do the kids still keep asking "are we there yet?" "To which the answer is yes we were there tomorrow | |||
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" a train that was built in 1911 and went into a tunnel and never came back out of it" Surely the train went out at the other end of the tunnel it went in, no?  | |||
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"When we put the clocks back....is that time travel??" I guess so Mrscxxx | |||
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"Just thinking about time travel makes my head hurt "Butterfly effect ???? | |||
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"Depends what time you're talking about " British summer time to gmt!! | |||
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