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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Had a new shower fitted last week, landlord left me in charge of arranging the fitting, and he was going to pick up the tab. Now he’s refusing to pay the full price as he says it’s extortion, so my question is how much would you expect to pay for a shower fit? |
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By *lex D.Man
over a year ago
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"Had a new shower fitted last week, landlord left me in charge of arranging the fitting, and he was going to pick up the tab. Now he’s refusing to pay the full price as he says it’s extortion, so my question is how much would you expect to pay for a shower fit? "
Landlord's not helping as he/she's fully waived their contractual obligation. Knock it off next month's rent.  |
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"Had a new shower fitted last week, landlord left me in charge of arranging the fitting, and he was going to pick up the tab. Now he’s refusing to pay the full price as he says it’s extortion, so my question is how much would you expect to pay for a shower fit?
Landlord's not helping as he/she's fully waived their contractual obligation. Knock it off next month's rent. "
Don't mess with the rent, pay it as normal, do not give the landlord ammo ......get the contractor to send the bill to the landlord, it's the landlords obligation for the upkeep of that property....... |
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"The plumber is charging him 180 to fit the shower, he’s told the plumber he’s paying 80 and not a penny more now I’m in the middle  "
No your not.....your the tenant it's the landlords property and his bill.... |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I have but I’m getting calls of the plumber saying landlords refusing to pay any more than 80 I’m gettin the landlord saying he’s not paying anymore
I’m in the middle we’re do I stand |
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
There and to the left a bit |
There are so many variables it's difficult to say - for instance like for like replacement of an existing shower unit would be a lot different from installation of a whole new one - did it include a new shower cubicle etc etc
What you should have done of course is run the cost by the landlord before going ahead with the work which would have avoided the situation - but that's easy to say in retrospect.
All you can do now really is discuss with the landlord and come to a mutual agreement over the cost |
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"I have but I’m getting calls of the plumber saying landlords refusing to pay any more than 80 I’m gettin the landlord saying he’s not paying anymore
I’m in the middle we’re do I stand "
You tell the plumber to stop ringing you .....it's not your responsibility to pay......he has to contact the landlord direct....
....is your landlord registered as a landlord?.... |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Depends on shower cost. Plumbers hourly rate and a electrician to sign it off.
£350 - £400 ??"
so are you saying 180 is cheap? If we say 65 quid an hour for the plumber then if he had to pay a sparky to sign off? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Its usually the landlords responsibility to deal with repairs and maintenance. If he has instructed you to proceed and you have, then the bill his his to deal with even if he doesn't like it.
Stand your ground, do not offer to pay any part of it, depending on what your lease says, and leave the landlord and repairer to sort it out between them.
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"Yess he is "
Then he should know......our family own 9 rentals we never charge tenants for work done....it's not their house or flat....first tell plumber stop contacting you that's first, tell him ring the landlord.....second the landlord can claim this work done back on tax....so what's his gripe.....and the price for 2 hours on a Sunday is cheap! If your still getting no joy go to citizen advice, but do not take money from rent to pay plumber, that's the worst thing you could do... |
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It’s the landlords responsibility and he gave you the green light to go ahead. He should be paying for the shower and it’s fitting.
He should pay the plumber directly and reimburse you for the shower unit. The two parties should be speaking directly and not through you
Keep all correspondence with the landlord on this matter including his agreement
However, do not pay less rent to compensate the out of pocket as that just puts you in trouble |
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By *yn drwgMan
over a year ago
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"Had a new shower fitted last week, landlord left me in charge of arranging the fitting, and he was going to pick up the tab. Now he’s refusing to pay the full price as he says it’s extortion, so my question is how much would you expect to pay for a shower fit?
Landlord's not helping as he/she's fully waived their contractual obligation. Knock it off next month's rent.
Don't mess with the rent, pay it as normal, do not give the landlord ammo ......get the contractor to send the bill to the landlord, it's the landlords obligation for the upkeep of that property......."
Agree with above don't mess with the rent as you are leaving yourself open to being out of the contract agreement, it is up to you landlord to pay for maintenance to the property. |
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By *appytochatMan
over a year ago
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"Depends on shower cost. Plumbers hourly rate and a electrician to sign it off.
£350 - £400 ?? so are you saying 180 is cheap? If we say 65 quid an hour for the plumber then if he had to pay a sparky to sign off? "
I was just putting rough prices together.
150 for shower but you said you brought it.
I was thinking 2hrs tops at 60ph for the plumber to fit and a bit chucked on top for sparkie to sign off.
But if the overall bill is only 180quid then I'd say that's about the going rate. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Ok thanks for your advice, i personally thoght that was cheap considering he had to change a litte pipework and he can sign it all off himself!
Say he was 60 quid an hour he used a length of pipe then his labour call that 160 then he would of had to get a sparky out to sign it off for at least 20 quid |
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By *r TriomanMan
over a year ago
Chippenham Malmesbury area |
There's showers and there's showers. I fitted one recently; the rainfall head and down tube cost £180.00 and the WiFi shower unit and remote cost a further £600.00. As I'm not a plumber it took me a few days to fit (also had to fit a new 70 gallon water tank in the loft and a flange in the hot water tank to meet the system requirements. So I'd expect an expert just fitting the shower to take no more than a day; 7 hours @ £30.00 = £210.00. So, overall cost £990.00
It really depends on what they did - retro fitted a new unit or, like me, start from scratch and fitted a new unit, pipe work and electrics. |
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"Ok thanks for your advice, i personally thoght that was cheap considering he had to change a litte pipework and he can sign it all off himself!
Say he was 60 quid an hour he used a length of pipe then his labour call that 160 then he would of had to get a sparky out to sign it off for at least 20 quid"
If you are still worrying there are plenty of tenant help forum's on the web........ |
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By *r TriomanMan
over a year ago
Chippenham Malmesbury area |
Also, as you've paid for it, you own it so it he doesn't stump up for it, take it with you when you leave. Lesson learnt should be to never accepted liability for your landlords contracted responsibilities. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"There's showers and there's showers. I fitted one recently; the rainfall head and down tube cost £180.00 and the WiFi shower unit and remote cost a further £600.00. As I'm not a plumber it took me a few days to fit (also had to fit a new 70 gallon water tank in the loft and a flange in the hot water tank to meet the system requirements. So I'd expect an expert just fitting the shower to take no more than a day; 7 hours @ £30.00 = £210.00. So, overall cost £990.00
It really depends on what they did - retro fitted a new unit or, like me, start from scratch and fitted a new unit, pipe work and electrics."
Replaced the shower, a little bit of pipework and then had to sign it off so i dont think 180 is a bad price |
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This is the strangest thing I've read on a website dedicated to swinging and sexual adventure..... No one really cares.
"Had a new shower fitted last week, landlord left me in charge of arranging the fitting, and he was going to pick up the tab. Now he’s refusing to pay the full price as he says it’s extortion, so my question is how much would you expect to pay for a shower fit? "
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Also, as you've paid for it, you own it so it he doesn't stump up for it, take it with you when you leave. Lesson learnt should be to never accepted liability for your landlords contracted responsibilities."
hes told me he is transferring me the money for the shower
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"This is the strangest thing I've read on a website dedicated to swinging and sexual adventure..... No one really cares.
Errr obviously people do, the OP is getting the advice he asked for...
Had a new shower fitted last week, landlord left me in charge of arranging the fitting, and he was going to pick up the tab. Now he’s refusing to pay the full price as he says it’s extortion, so my question is how much would you expect to pay for a shower fit? "
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By *r TriomanMan
over a year ago
Chippenham Malmesbury area |
"Depends on shower cost. Plumbers hourly rate and a electrician to sign it off.
£350 - £400 ?? so are you saying 180 is cheap? If we say 65 quid an hour for the plumber then if he had to pay a sparky to sign off?
I was just putting rough prices together.
150 for shower but you said you brought it.
I was thinking 2hrs tops at 60ph for the plumber to fit and a bit chucked on top for sparkie to sign off.
But if the overall bill is only 180quid then I'd say that's about the going rate. "
Sorry OP, just seen this, £180 seems cheap for any job done by a plumber so it appears your landlord is acting unreasonable. Get some legal advice. You acted in good faith, you havent charged him for your services and the price seems appropriate for the work carried out. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Ill try an talk him round when i see him as was said earlier in the post he wouldnt like it if i refused to pay my rent because i thought it was extortion |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"This is the strangest thing I've read on a website dedicated to swinging and sexual adventure..... No one really cares.
Just like your opinion.... no one really cares 
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I've read weirder ones |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"This is the strangest thing I've read on a website dedicated to swinging and sexual adventure..... No one really cares.
Had a new shower fitted last week, landlord left me in charge of arranging the fitting, and he was going to pick up the tab. Now he’s refusing to pay the full price as he says it’s extortion, so my question is how much would you expect to pay for a shower fit? "
No this is the lounge it's for general chit chat and advice if you want just posts about swinging go on swingers chat |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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" hes told me he is transferring me the money for the shower"
Did you get this in writing? Why would he not agree to knock it off the rent?
Unfortunately I am not sure you will get that back after this.
Avoid using the phone at all costs. Registerd mail or if needed quickly then email.
You will be surprised how differently a landlord talks to you and what they agree to when they are putting it in writing
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"Had a new shower fitted last week, landlord left me in charge of arranging the fitting, and he was going to pick up the tab. Now he’s refusing to pay the full price as he says it’s extortion, so my question is how much would you expect to pay for a shower fit? "
did you organise the plumber to come and sort it ?
"Had a new shower fitted last week, landlord left me in charge of arranging the fitting, and he was going to pick up the tab. Now he’s refusing to pay the full price as he says it’s extortion, so my question is how much would you expect to pay for a shower fit?
Landlord's not helping as he/she's fully waived their contractual obligation. Knock it off next month's rent.
Don't mess with the rent, pay it as normal, do not give the landlord ammo ......get the contractor to send the bill to the landlord, it's the landlords obligation for the upkeep of that property......."
landlord is not responsible for the bill as he did not organise the fitting of it
as a last comment for the tenant if landlord is still refusing to pay, tell the fitter and allow the fitter in to collect his goods from the property
it would only be right if your refusing to pay and also the landlord is refusing to pay the bill
you should have not organised anything and really you should foot the bill
the landlord is doing the dirty by refusing to pay the full amount happens so often nowadays
so allow the fitter to collect his goods from the property
youd be the first to scream if you was out of pocket by dirty dealings |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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" hes told me he is transferring me the money for the shower
Did you get this in writing? Why would he not agree to knock it off the rent?
Unfortunately I am not sure you will get that back after this.
Avoid using the phone at all costs. Registerd mail or if needed quickly then email.
You will be surprised how differently a landlord talks to you and what they agree to when they are putting it in writing
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Also, the landlord and fitter can come to an arrangement if they get their hats on. They both know this is not your responsibility. Tell them to negotiate and come to an agreement and leave you out except in writing as others have advised.
Landlords and contractors are always negotiating as part of their job. It’s how the industry operates.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Yess he is
Then he should know......our family own 9 rentals we never charge tenants for work done....it's not their house or flat....first tell plumber stop contacting you that's first, tell him ring the landlord.....second the landlord can claim this work done back on tax....so what's his gripe.....and the price for 2 hours on a Sunday is cheap! If your still getting no joy go to citizen advice, but do not take money from rent to pay plumber, that's the worst thing you could do..."
This. I am a sparky and have been both a landlord and a tenant.
Do not take money off rent!! Let plumber deal direct with landlord |
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"Had a new shower fitted last week, landlord left me in charge of arranging the fitting, and he was going to pick up the tab. Now he’s refusing to pay the full price as he says it’s extortion, so my question is how much would you expect to pay for a shower fit?
did you organise the plumber to come and sort it ?
Had a new shower fitted last week, landlord left me in charge of arranging the fitting, and he was going to pick up the tab. Now he’s refusing to pay the full price as he says it’s extortion, so my question is how much would you expect to pay for a shower fit?
Landlord's not helping as he/she's fully waived their contractual obligation. Knock it off next month's rent.
Don't mess with the rent, pay it as normal, do not give the landlord ammo ......get the contractor to send the bill to the landlord, it's the landlords obligation for the upkeep of that property.......
landlord is not responsible for the bill as he did not organise the fitting of it
as a last comment for the tenant if landlord is still refusing to pay, tell the fitter and allow the fitter in to collect his goods from the property
it would only be right if your refusing to pay and also the landlord is refusing to pay the bill
you should have not organised anything and really you should foot the bill
the landlord is doing the dirty by refusing to pay the full amount happens so often nowadays
so allow the fitter to collect his goods from the property
youd be the first to scream if you was out of pocket by dirty dealings "
He gave the OP permission to be his agent in this situation....what you on about take goods from the property? This isn't won't pay we take it away... |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Had a new shower fitted last week, landlord left me in charge of arranging the fitting, and he was going to pick up the tab. Now he’s refusing to pay the full price as he says it’s extortion, so my question is how much would you expect to pay for a shower fit?
did you organise the plumber to come and sort it ?
Had a new shower fitted last week, landlord left me in charge of arranging the fitting, and he was going to pick up the tab. Now he’s refusing to pay the full price as he says it’s extortion, so my question is how much would you expect to pay for a shower fit?
Landlord's not helping as he/she's fully waived their contractual obligation. Knock it off next month's rent.
Don't mess with the rent, pay it as normal, do not give the landlord ammo ......get the contractor to send the bill to the landlord, it's the landlords obligation for the upkeep of that property.......
landlord is not responsible for the bill as he did not organise the fitting of it
as a last comment for the tenant if landlord is still refusing to pay, tell the fitter and allow the fitter in to collect his goods from the property
it would only be right if your refusing to pay and also the landlord is refusing to pay the bill
you should have not organised anything and really you should foot the bill
the landlord is doing the dirty by refusing to pay the full amount happens so often nowadays
so allow the fitter to collect his goods from the property
youd be the first to scream if you was out of pocket by dirty dealings "
Hi mate yes i would, and i would happily let him in to have his materials back but as i brought the shower and am already out of pocket by my landlords actions to i dont feel its my fault |
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the op would be responsible as he arranged the fitting of the unit
the landlord is now refusing to pay the op as i read it so op states im renting only
would i be right seen it so many times now
ive filled gas boilers do to tenants refusing to pay the bills as im only renting blah blah blah
so there newly fitted boilers have been foamed to destroy them
the price of refusing to pay for the bill and trying to pass the buck to the landlord
its tough luck bet you wouldnt want to be out of pocket for a 500+ boiler |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"the op would be responsible as he arranged the fitting of the unit
the landlord is now refusing to pay the op as i read it so op states im renting only
would i be right seen it so many times now
ive filled gas boilers do to tenants refusing to pay the bills as im only renting blah blah blah
so there newly fitted boilers have been foamed to destroy them
the price of refusing to pay for the bill and trying to pass the buck to the landlord
its tough luck bet you wouldnt want to be out of pocket for a 500+ boiler"
i dont have a boiler i have an immersion tank that never gets used |
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did you arrange everything with the plumber for the shower to be fitted ?
did you except the price that you was given ?
did you pass on this price info to your landlord ?
did you get an ok in writing ? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"If you rplace like for like you don’t need to have it signed off. And no landlord will pay Sunday rates!"
well hes got no choice cuz i aint paying it!!
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"the op would be responsible as he arranged the fitting of the unit
the landlord is now refusing to pay the op as i read it so op states im renting only
would i be right seen it so many times now
ive filled gas boilers do to tenants refusing to pay the bills as im only renting blah blah blah
so there newly fitted boilers have been foamed to destroy them
the price of refusing to pay for the bill and trying to pass the buck to the landlord
its tough luck bet you wouldnt want to be out of pocket for a 500+ boiler"
Your shitty experiences has sweet fa to do with the OP....pass what buck??? It's the landlords property not the tenants....wow your a contractor and a fcking half you.... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If you rplace like for like you don’t need to have it signed off. And no landlord will pay Sunday rates! well hes got no choice cuz i aint paying it!!"
Good luck. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"did you arrange everything with the plumber for the shower to be fitted ?
did you except the price that you was given ?
did you pass on this price info to your landlord ?
did you get an ok in writing ?"
Yes yes yes and no no ok in writing an ok on the fone th |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"This is the strangest thing I've read on a website dedicated to swinging and sexual adventure..... No one really cares.
Had a new shower fitted last week, landlord left me in charge of arranging the fitting, and he was going to pick up the tab. Now he’s refusing to pay the full price as he says it’s extortion, so my question is how much would you expect to pay for a shower fit? "
This really isn't even the strangest thing on the forum today. 
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"If you rplace like for like you don’t need to have it signed off. And no landlord will pay Sunday rates! well hes got no choice cuz i aint paying it!!
Good luck."
He is contractually obliged to pay all repairs |
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"did you arrange everything with the plumber for the shower to be fitted ?
did you except the price that you was given ?
did you pass on this price info to your landlord ?
did you get an ok in writing ?
Yes yes yes and no no ok in writing an ok on the fone th"
you might be the tenant but you arranged it all
really you should pay the plumbers bill
but as I read your not going to do and have past the buck to your landlord
however the contract is with you op not with the landlord
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By *appytochatMan
over a year ago
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Personally if it was me. I'd pay the plumber for his work. As I had asked him to come and do the job. I'd take it as a life lesson not to get involved in future and insist the landlord does what ever work if needed in the future. Then when I move out I'd take said shower with me and put the old one back in its place.
But I know it's not as easy as that when it comes to money and principles and responsibilities. Plus the added problem of the landlord holding any deposit you gave when you moved in. Hope it all works out for you OP. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"did you arrange everything with the plumber for the shower to be fitted ?
did you except the price that you was given ?
did you pass on this price info to your landlord ?
did you get an ok in writing ?
Yes yes yes and no no ok in writing an ok on the fone th
you might be the tenant but you arranged it all
really you should pay the plumbers bill
So landlords arent obliged to pay for repairs? I pay rent, he would hate it if i underpaid him
but as I read your not going to do and have past the buck to your landlord
however the contract is with you op not with the landlord
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"Your shitty experiences has sweet fa to do with the OP....pass what buck??? It's the landlords property not the tenants....wow your a contractor and a fcking half you...."
alot of tenants are having work done with and without landlords consent.
then when it comes to paying the bill im just the tenant claim it off the landlord.
has been happening for years now
so many are going down the route you wont pay then we will take it back if not it will be destroyed
you might call me but i dont see you losing hundreds or thousands of pounds because a tenant or landlord wont pay for work thats being done
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"Your shitty experiences has sweet fa to do with the OP....pass what buck??? It's the landlords property not the tenants....wow your a contractor and a fcking half you....
alot of tenants are having work done with and without landlords consent.
then when it comes to paying the bill im just the tenant claim it off the landlord.
has been happening for years now
so many are going down the route you wont pay then we will take it back if not it will be destroyed
you might call me but i dont see you losing hundreds or thousands of pounds because a tenant or landlord wont pay for work thats being done
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Been happening for years then clearly you need to do better checks on the people your doing the work for..... |
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"I brought the shower, the lad who fitted it Does house refurbs so he has both qualifications "
This has bugged me since posting last night
is the shower your own shower that you are having fitted ?
the previous shower was it faulty and in need of replacement ?
if was faulty did your landlord pay you back for the shower unit being fitted ?
why did you have a sunday hours fitting of the shower ?
if the fitter requested he fitted in on a sunday did you ask him if it was normal rate as the plumber was wanting it to be fitted at this time.
sorry I just cant understand why you had a shower unit fitted on a sunday when higher rates could be charged for on this day instead of having it fitted on week days |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I brought the shower, the lad who fitted it Does house refurbs so he has both qualifications
This has bugged me since posting last night
is the shower your own shower that you are having fitted ?
the previous shower was it faulty and in need of replacement ?
if was faulty did your landlord pay you back for the shower unit being fitted ?
why did you have a sunday hours fitting of the shower ?
if the fitter requested he fitted in on a sunday did you ask him if it was normal rate as the plumber was wanting it to be fitted at this time.
sorry I just cant understand why you had a shower unit fitted on a sunday when higher rates could be charged for on this day instead of having it fitted on week days "
Yes it was my shower an I had it fitted on Sunday because the old shower had blown the prv 2 weeks previous, so I’d had to drag my stuff around to someone else’s house so was desperate to have a shower in my own home.. |
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Yes it was my shower an I had it fitted on Sunday because the old shower had blown the prv 2 weeks previous, so I’d had to drag my stuff around to someone else’s house so was desperate to have a shower in my own home.."
just to note once you fitted that shower it now belongs to your landlord when you leave.
unless your going to fit another and take yours with you
alternative is to fit the old one back on again as you leave the property
but thats up to you now |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Depends on shower cost. Plumbers hourly rate and a electrician to sign it off.
£350 - £400 ?? so are you saying 180 is cheap? If we say 65 quid an hour for the plumber then if he had to pay a sparky to sign off?
I was just putting rough prices together.
150 for shower but you said you brought it.
I was thinking 2hrs tops at 60ph for the plumber to fit and a bit chucked on top for sparkie to sign off.
But if the overall bill is only 180quid then I'd say that's about the going rate. "
payed £190 the other month to have mine fitted |
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