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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
The Home Office are putting anti knife crime messages on fried chicken boxes. Diane Abbot seems to think this is racist.
Not sure it will work myself. They put unit warnings on alcohol bottles but who takes any notice? |
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"The Home Office are putting anti knife crime messages on fried chicken boxes. Diane Abbot seems to think this is racist.
Not sure it will work myself. They put unit warnings on alcohol bottles but who takes any notice?"
Diane Abbott thinks everything is racist 
But that aside, messages on boxes aren't the answer. |
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Diane abbot could spell racist but likes throwing it around a lot...
Yr right don’t think it will work .. but it would be good to see something positive come out of her mouth instead of the shit that normally does .. and to see what her initiatives are to detour and reduce knife crime, |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"They shoulda advertised where the youth clubs are instead, if there were any left under this government..."
Youth clubs have changed
When I went, it was all about teasy flirting with girls and looking a dick when you fell over trying to do the 'double dutch'  |
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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago
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"They shoulda advertised where the youth clubs are instead, if there were any left under this government...
Youth clubs have changed
When I went, it was all about teasy flirting with girls and looking a dick when you fell over trying to do the 'double dutch' "
Youth clubs are pretty much gone, Bussy. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"They shoulda advertised where the youth clubs are instead, if there were any left under this government...
Youth clubs have changed
When I went, it was all about teasy flirting with girls and looking a dick when you fell over trying to do the 'double dutch'
Youth clubs are pretty much gone, Bussy."
I live adjacent to a tram stop
It appears that they now exist on trams, to the degree that of an evening every tram that passes has security onboard |
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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago
London |
"They shoulda advertised where the youth clubs are instead, if there were any left under this government...
Youth clubs have changed
When I went, it was all about teasy flirting with girls and looking a dick when you fell over trying to do the 'double dutch'
Youth clubs are pretty much gone, Bussy.
I live adjacent to a tram stop
It appears that they now exist on trams, to the degree that of an evening every tram that passes has security onboard"
Well that’s the world for you, somewhere someone started making people feel unsafe as a distraction technique and it permeated everywhere. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"They shoulda advertised where the youth clubs are instead, if there were any left under this government...
Youth clubs have changed
When I went, it was all about teasy flirting with girls and looking a dick when you fell over trying to do the 'double dutch'
Youth clubs are pretty much gone, Bussy.
I live adjacent to a tram stop
It appears that they now exist on trams, to the degree that of an evening every tram that passes has security onboard
Well that’s the world for you, somewhere someone started making people feel unsafe as a distraction technique and it permeated everywhere."
I agree
The fear started at a Governmental level and the trickle effect is now working its 'wonder' |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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As i look down at my packet of fags with the WARNING and the horrible pictures about what it will do to me. I think i hesitate but still take one and puff away and enjoy. This warning may make them think but isnt going to stop these horrendous crimes from happening. Same as i will carry on smoking knowing what/may happen to me. This country is to soft on crime. Nick a bit of money 20-30 years!!look at the great train robbery for excable?take someones life 10 years if you are unlucky. No deterant? Rant over. |
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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago
London |
"They shoulda advertised where the youth clubs are instead, if there were any left under this government...
Youth clubs have changed
When I went, it was all about teasy flirting with girls and looking a dick when you fell over trying to do the 'double dutch'
Youth clubs are pretty much gone, Bussy.
I live adjacent to a tram stop
It appears that they now exist on trams, to the degree that of an evening every tram that passes has security onboard
Well that’s the world for you, somewhere someone started making people feel unsafe as a distraction technique and it permeated everywhere.
I agree
The fear started at a Governmental level and the trickle effect is now working its 'wonder'"
*dry humps you* |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Diane Abbot is a complete nut job who should never have become a politician.
I wholeheartedly disagree with a number of sentiments in your statement.  "
We are all allowed our opinions its called freedom of speech |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
This is days old and yet when it hits Fab the same nonsense seen in other places gets trotted out.
The argument for is that it is part of a wider campaign.
The argument against is that it's a bloody terrible element of the campaign for too many reasons to go into on here unless I want a row.
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
"Diane Abbot is a complete nut job who should never have become a politician.
I wholeheartedly disagree with a number of sentiments in your statement.
We are all allowed our opinions its called freedom of speech "
Which is open to challenge. Your opinion does not make it fact.
How would you cope with get disparaging and racist remarks thrown at you every single day of your life multiple times? I've had my run-ins with her but she shows more strength of character and resilience in her little finger than most of us have in our entire bodies.
That's my opinion and my exercising of my freedom of speech.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Diane Abbot is a complete nut job who should never have become a politician.
I wholeheartedly disagree with a number of sentiments in your statement.
We are all allowed our opinions its called freedom of speech
Which is open to challenge. Your opinion does not make it fact.
How would you cope with get disparaging and racist remarks thrown at you every single day of your life multiple times? I've had my run-ins with her but she shows more strength of character and resilience in her little finger than most of us have in our entire bodies.
That's my opinion and my exercising of my freedom of speech.
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Your opinions don’t make it a fact either. We will have to agree to disagree |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"Diane Abbot is a complete nut job who should never have become a politician.
I wholeheartedly disagree with a number of sentiments in your statement.
We are all allowed our opinions its called freedom of speech
Which is open to challenge. Your opinion does not make it fact.
How would you cope with get disparaging and racist remarks thrown at you every single day of your life multiple times? I've had my run-ins with her but she shows more strength of character and resilience in her little finger than most of us have in our entire bodies.
That's my opinion and my exercising of my freedom of speech.
Your opinions don’t make it a fact either. We will have to agree to disagree"
Absolutely. I have no interest in communicating with such comments ever again.
Enjoy Fab. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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What do young, disenfranchised people like. Grime and fried chicken. OK get stormzy on the phone. Also KFC, Morleys and favourite chicken.
That'll stop knife crime.
Much like when Sajid Javed had a crack down on "higher income recreational drug users" by wrapping copies of the spectator in warnings about the dangers of cocaine use.
Who needs funding for public services when you can have a good targeted PR campaign. |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
"What do young, disenfranchised people like. Grime and fried chicken. OK get stormzy on the phone. Also KFC, Morleys and favourite chicken.
That'll stop knife crime.
Much like when Sajid Javed had a crack down on "higher income recreational drug users" by wrapping copies of the spectator in warnings about the dangers of cocaine use.
Who needs funding for public services when you can have a good targeted PR campaign. "
Quite.
The end point of this is, largely, middle class, casual users. Their recreational use is driving the trade which leads to the grooming of and violence to and between young people. Wrapping that up as a message on the Spectator goes nowhere when half the cabinet are implicated.
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"I wasn't serious about the spectator bit. But I agree with your points fully... "
It was Khan who raised the issue in the press about usage driving a lot of the problems. Largely ignored and the press went back to the usual discourse.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I have no idea about politics.
I thought this would be a light hearted discussion- but it's the same old blahhhh.
Maybe the thread should be moved to the politics forum? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The Home Office are putting anti knife crime messages on fried chicken boxes. Diane Abbot seems to think this is racist.
Not sure it will work myself. They put unit warnings on alcohol bottles but who takes any notice?"
Why is it racist. Do white people not eat fried chicken. Silly cow. |
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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago
London |
"Diane Abbot is a complete nut job who should never have become a politician.
I wholeheartedly disagree with a number of sentiments in your statement.
We are all allowed our opinions its called freedom of speech "
Never disagreed with that. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I assume the premise here is the American stereotype that all African Americans love fried chicken?
If so yes that's racist.
But everything else aside, that doesn't really hold true in this country because the stereotype is bare chicken that is deep fried, typically with the skin left on. It isn't actually chicken in a breadcrumb, batter or other coating.
So I guess that makes it either not racist, or so racist they can't even get their stereotypes right |
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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago
London |
"I assume the premise here is the American stereotype that all African Americans love fried chicken?
If so yes that's racist.
But everything else aside, that doesn't really hold true in this country because the stereotype is bare chicken that is deep fried, typically with the skin left on. It isn't actually chicken in a breadcrumb, batter or other coating.
So I guess that makes it either not racist, or so racist they can't even get their stereotypes right "
Exactly! It’s classist and racist. |
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"Do those who carry knives stop off for kfc pre rampage?! Really don’t see the relevance "
The thinking is that knife crime is predominantly committed by black youth and everyone knows black people looooove fried chicken.
Ergo, putting messages on fried chicken boxes is the obvious answer...dah!!! It's bound to work, like Nancy Reagan's "just say no!" campaign. |
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"As i look down at my packet of fags with the WARNING and the horrible pictures about what it will do to me. I think i hesitate but still take one and puff away and enjoy. This warning may make them think but isnt going to stop these horrendous crimes from happening. Same as i will carry on smoking knowing what/may happen to me. This country is to soft on crime. Nick a bit of money 20-30 years!!look at the great train robbery for excable?take someones life 10 years if you are unlucky. No deterant? Rant over."
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By *evaquitCouple
over a year ago
Catthorpe |
"Do those who carry knives stop off for kfc pre rampage?! Really don’t see the relevance
The thinking is that knife crime is predominantly committed by black youth and everyone knows black people looooove fried chicken.
Ergo, putting messages on fried chicken boxes is the obvious answer...dah!!! It's bound to work, like Nancy Reagan's "just say no!" campaign. "
Yep!
Should've gone the whole hog and labelled up all the water melons to avoid any ambiguity.
Some solution this one. |
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"Do those who carry knives stop off for kfc pre rampage?! Really don’t see the relevance
The thinking is that knife crime is predominantly committed by black youth and everyone knows black people looooove fried chicken.
Ergo, putting messages on fried chicken boxes is the obvious answer...dah!!! It's bound to work, like Nancy Reagan's "just say no!" campaign.
Yep!
Should've gone the whole hog and labelled up all the water melons to avoid any ambiguity.
Some solution this one."
I thought they missed a trick with the watermelons too.
Heads should roll for this oversight. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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In all fairness when there has been a killing or a stabbing it's a certain colour of skin that has done it , so I guess targeting the places they go to makes sense , there not going to put messages on a wAitrosse hummus wrap |
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"In all fairness when there has been a killing or a stabbing it's a certain colour of skin that has done it , so I guess targeting the places they go to makes sense , there not going to put messages on a wAitrosse hummus wrap "
Great shout, will save the Hummus Wraps for messages against child sex offenders since they're predominantly white middle aged men, or should they just put it on all Greggs products? Waitrose wraps should probably be reserved for white collar crimes and small print congratulating middle class white people on continuing to be benefactors of systemic and institutional racism; will look perfect on a Cauliflower Steak. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"In all fairness when there has been a killing or a stabbing it's a certain colour of skin that has done it , so I guess targeting the places they go to makes sense , there not going to put messages on a wAitrosse hummus wrap
Great shout, will save the Hummus Wraps for messages against child sex offenders since they're predominantly white middle aged men, or should they just put it on all Greggs products? Waitrose wraps should probably be reserved for white collar crimes and small print congratulating middle class white people on continuing to be benefactors of systemic and institutional racism; will look perfect on a Cauliflower Steak."
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Diane Abbot is a complete nut job who should never have become a politician. "
as is Corbyn. Its great though so many are loosing confidence in the loony labour party so they can stay right there
As for the chicken boxes... i doubt it will make a difference knife crime is rife and more prominent in certain cultural circles.. many being of eastern europe origin, the crime stats speak for themselves.
Ive been stabbed.. im not weak.. i dont need a knife, i used my fists and won. |
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By *eliWoman
over a year ago
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"In all fairness when there has been a killing or a stabbing it's a certain colour of skin that has done it , so I guess targeting the places they go to makes sense , there not going to put messages on a wAitrosse hummus wrap
Great shout, will save the Hummus Wraps for messages against child sex offenders since they're predominantly white middle aged men, or should they just put it on all Greggs products? Waitrose wraps should probably be reserved for white collar crimes and small print congratulating middle class white people on continuing to be benefactors of systemic and institutional racism; will look perfect on a Cauliflower Steak."
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By (user no longer on site)
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"In all fairness when there has been a killing or a stabbing it's a certain colour of skin that has done it , so I guess targeting the places they go to makes sense , there not going to put messages on a wAitrosse hummus wrap
Great shout, will save the Hummus Wraps for messages against child sex offenders since they're predominantly white middle aged men, or should they just put it on all Greggs products? Waitrose wraps should probably be reserved for white collar crimes and small print congratulating middle class white people on continuing to be benefactors of systemic and institutional racism; will look perfect on a Cauliflower Steak."
Brilliant |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Demographics. 10-21 yr olds are the most likely customers. Also the most likely perpetrators and victims. Fuck all to do with race. I lived on KFC for a while, didn't kill anyone.... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"In all fairness when there has been a killing or a stabbing it's a certain colour of skin that has done it , so I guess targeting the places they go to makes sense , there not going to put messages on a wAitrosse hummus wrap
Great shout, will save the Hummus Wraps for messages against child sex offenders since they're predominantly white middle aged men, or should they just put it on all Greggs products? Waitrose wraps should probably be reserved for white collar crimes and small print congratulating middle class white people on continuing to be benefactors of systemic and institutional racism; will look perfect on a Cauliflower Steak."
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By (user no longer on site)
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"They shoulda advertised where the youth clubs are instead, if there were any left under this government..."
The youth clubs are now replaced with hanging around outside Crappy D's and KFC selling drugs. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Warnings about stabbing people on KFC fried chicken boxes why are KFC doing that?/ I had a KFC last night in takeaway box there was nothing on that."
But were you already aware its a bit anti social to go about stabbing people? If so you probably didn't need it written on the box |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"Warnings about stabbing people on KFC fried chicken boxes why are KFC doing that?/ I had a KFC last night in takeaway box there was nothing on that."
It's not universal. I don't believe KFC is part of the campaign. It's mostly smaller, independent chicken shops, hence some of the concern about racism. The shops are in less leafy, white areas.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Warnings about stabbing people on KFC fried chicken boxes why are KFC doing that?/ I had a KFC last night in takeaway box there was nothing on that.
It's not universal. I don't believe KFC is part of the campaign. It's mostly smaller, independent chicken shops, hence some of the concern about racism. The shops are in less leafy, white areas.
Oh its just in the UK then, is that because a lot of kids are getting killed, I have seen it on CNN and Aljazeera news.
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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago
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"They shoulda advertised where the youth clubs are instead, if there were any left under this government...
The youth clubs are now replaced with hanging around outside Crappy D's and KFC selling drugs."
*whoosh* |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"They shoulda advertised where the youth clubs are instead, if there were any left under this government...
Amen to that. Youth services, decimated. "
I don't there's a word for 75%'d - that's about the level of cuts to funding for youth services. Decimated is tiny compared to the actual damage.
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"In all fairness when there has been a killing or a stabbing it's a certain colour of skin that has done it , so I guess targeting the places they go to makes sense , there not going to put messages on a wAitrosse hummus wrap
Great shout, will save the Hummus Wraps for messages against child sex offenders since they're predominantly white middle aged men, or should they just put it on all Greggs products? Waitrose wraps should probably be reserved for white collar crimes and small print congratulating middle class white people on continuing to be benefactors of systemic and institutional racism; will look perfect on a Cauliflower Steak."
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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago
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"They shoulda advertised where the youth clubs are instead, if there were any left under this government...
Amen to that. Youth services, decimated.
I don't there's a word for 75%'d - that's about the level of cuts to funding for youth services. Decimated is tiny compared to the actual damage.
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Word. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"It's beyond youth clubs..
Too late for this generation
You can't write off an entire generation. Read Athian Akec piece on this issue. Young, eloquent, reasoned, Black.
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It's all about the drugs sadly |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"It's beyond youth clubs..
Too late for this generation
You can't write off an entire generation. Read Athian Akec piece on this issue. Young, eloquent, reasoned, Black.
It's all about the drugs sadly"
Who buys them? It's mostly not the young people. Writing off young people who have been groomed into actions that lead to this violence is the sad bit.
It's also about loss of provision, poverty and a demonisation of young people - remember ASBOs? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"They shoulda advertised where the youth clubs are instead, if there were any left under this government..."
There are no youth clubs government reduced funding!!!! |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"It's beyond youth clubs..
Too late for this generation
You can't write off an entire generation. Read Athian Akec piece on this issue. Young, eloquent, reasoned, Black.
It's all about the drugs sadly
Who buys them? It's mostly not the young people. Writing off young people who have been groomed into actions that lead to this violence is the sad bit.
It's also about loss of provision, poverty and a demonisation of young people - remember ASBOs?"
Don't tell me. It's the middle class cocaine users.
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By *icentiousCouple
over a year ago
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"The Home Office are putting anti knife crime messages on fried chicken boxes. Diane Abbot seems to think this is racist.
Not sure it will work myself. They put unit warnings on alcohol bottles but who takes any notice?"
Not bad if you get past the irony of how they kill chickens,
As for Diane Abbot, well I think the chickens should go and talk to her, |
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