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"You mean blokes that are acting like knobheads ? "
The concept of toxic masculinity is used in psychology and media discussions of masculinity to refer to certain cultural norms that are associated with harm to society and to men themselves. Traditional stereotypes of men as socially dominant, along with related traits such as misogyny and homophobia, can be considered "toxic" due in part to their promotion of violence, including sexual assault and domestic violence. The socialization of boys often normalizes violence, such as in the saying "boys will be boys" with regard to bullying and aggression.
Self-reliance and emotional repression are correlated with increased psychological problems in men such as depression, increased stress, and substance abuse. Toxic masculine traits are characteristic of the unspoken code of behavior among men in American prisons, where they exist in part as a response to the harsh conditions of prison life.
Other traditionally masculine traits such as devotion to work, pride in excelling at sports, and providing for one's family, are not considered to be "toxic". The concept was originally used by authors associated with the mythopoetic men's movement such as Shepherd Bliss to contrast stereotypical notions of masculinity with a "real" or "deep" masculinity that they say men have lost touch with in modern society. |
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"You mean blokes that are acting like knobheads ?
The concept of toxic masculinity is used in psychology and media discussions of masculinity to refer to certain cultural norms that are associated with harm to society and to men themselves. Traditional stereotypes of men as socially dominant, along with related traits such as misogyny and homophobia, can be considered "toxic" due in part to their promotion of violence, including sexual assault and domestic violence. The socialization of boys often normalizes violence, such as in the saying "boys will be boys" with regard to bullying and aggression.
Self-reliance and emotional repression are correlated with increased psychological problems in men such as depression, increased stress, and substance abuse. Toxic masculine traits are characteristic of the unspoken code of behavior among men in American prisons, where they exist in part as a response to the harsh conditions of prison life.
Other traditionally masculine traits such as devotion to work, pride in excelling at sports, and providing for one's family, are not considered to be "toxic". The concept was originally used by authors associated with the mythopoetic men's movement such as Shepherd Bliss to contrast stereotypical notions of masculinity with a "real" or "deep" masculinity that they say men have lost touch with in modern society."
Really well explained. There’s a lot of confusion between toxic masculinity and it’s societal role vs masculinity in general. |
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No I can’t say it does. I’m one of a few men that work in my office. I’m largely surrounded my women all day.
There’s very little masculinity in my work place |
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"I work in the building trade and any form of emotion or being vulnerable in any way is a sign of weakness"
I hear you, I worked most of my life in the building trade. |
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"I work in the building trade and any form of emotion or being vulnerable in any way is a sign of weakness"
I've grown up around builders. My dad, my step-brother, numerous cousins, etc. I went to the funeral of a young man recently. Suicide. I looked around that room. Their faces said everything. Hard men, funny men, acknowledging their weaknesses. I hope they don't bottle it up.
'Banter' isn't banter. It can kill. |
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"I work in the building trade and any form of emotion or being vulnerable in any way is a sign of weakness
I've grown up around builders. My dad, my step-brother, numerous cousins, etc. I went to the funeral of a young man recently. Suicide. I looked around that room. Their faces said everything. Hard men, funny men, acknowledging their weaknesses. I hope they don't bottle it up.
'Banter' isn't banter. It can kill. "
Well said worked on a job recently and the guys told me about one guy who complained he was being bullied,they said it was banter even though he felt he was being bullied.
Guess what he got sacked and they called him a puff. |
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"I work in the building trade and any form of emotion or being vulnerable in any way is a sign of weakness
I hear you, I worked most of my life in the building trade."
I've done my fair share too. Carrying a well used tape measure and the right look put paid to any dickheadedness 
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"Well said worked on a job recently and the guys told me about one guy who complained he was being bullied,they said it was banter even though he felt he was being bullied.
Guess what he got sacked and they called him a puff."
Christ, that's awful. |
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"I work in the building trade and any form of emotion or being vulnerable in any way is a sign of weakness
I've grown up around builders. My dad, my step-brother, numerous cousins, etc. I went to the funeral of a young man recently. Suicide. I looked around that room. Their faces said everything. Hard men, funny men, acknowledging their weaknesses. I hope they don't bottle it up.
'Banter' isn't banter. It can kill. "
banter is banter bullying isnt banter just know when to draw the line know your audience too many people just cant tell the difference between a joke at someones expense and targeted attacks over time on 1 person true banter is equal
If you saw someone trips on a curb 1st instinct is to laugh and take piss and is to check there ok
Otherwise blooper shows practical joke shows and youv been framed would never have existed
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"I work in the building trade and any form of emotion or being vulnerable in any way is a sign of weakness
I've grown up around builders. My dad, my step-brother, numerous cousins, etc. I went to the funeral of a young man recently. Suicide. I looked around that room. Their faces said everything. Hard men, funny men, acknowledging their weaknesses. I hope they don't bottle it up.
'Banter' isn't banter. It can kill. banter is banter bullying isnt banter just know when to draw the line know your audience too many people just cant tell the difference between a joke at someones expense and targeted attacks over time on 1 person true banter is equal
If you saw someone trips on a curb 1st instinct is to laugh and take piss and is to check there ok
Otherwise blooper shows practical joke shows and youv been framed would never have existed
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That doesn't make any sense and kinda makes my point. |
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"Funny how all the people saying toxic masculinity doesn't exist are men, eh what?"
I'm only saying no because there isn't any.. not in comparison to other places I've worked where there has been. |
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" bullying isnt banter just know when to draw the line know your audience too many people just cant tell the difference between a joke at someones expense and targeted attacks over time on 1 person true banter is equal
If you saw someone trips on a curb 1st instinct is to laugh and take piss and is to check there ok
Otherwise blooper shows practical joke shows and youv been framed would never have existed
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Glad I don't work with you. Know your audience? Who are the 'jokes' for? |
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"Funny how all the people saying toxic masculinity doesn't exist are men, eh what?
I'm only saying no because there isn't any.. not in comparison to other places I've worked where there has been."
where you wearing that mini dress again?  |
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"You mean blokes that are acting like knobheads ?
The concept of toxic masculinity is used in psychology and media discussions of masculinity to refer to certain cultural norms that are associated with harm to society and to men themselves. Traditional stereotypes of men as socially dominant, along with related traits such as misogyny and homophobia, can be considered "toxic" due in part to their promotion of violence, including sexual assault and domestic violence. The socialization of boys often normalizes violence, such as in the saying "boys will be boys" with regard to bullying and aggression.
Self-reliance and emotional repression are correlated with increased psychological problems in men such as depression, increased stress, and substance abuse. Toxic masculine traits are characteristic of the unspoken code of behavior among men in American prisons, where they exist in part as a response to the harsh conditions of prison life.
Other traditionally masculine traits such as devotion to work, pride in excelling at sports, and providing for one's family, are not considered to be "toxic". The concept was originally used by authors associated with the mythopoetic men's movement such as Shepherd Bliss to contrast stereotypical notions of masculinity with a "real" or "deep" masculinity that they say men have lost touch with in modern society."
I smell Liberalism , no hard feelings and neither intended to OP, view are Express is personal,world has been changed, people are more aware, educated and liberal. Power distributed equally and miss used by both gender. |
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"Toxic femininity affects me, feeble women unable to ask for a raise, its affecting how much I get paid.
oh cant you get a rise 
Not without women being okay with it."
just women |
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As a student I sometimes see men behaving lightly on the edge of this but it's soon stopped in its tracks, as younger men seem much more flexible han many older people, emotionally open as well as intolerant of any abuse. It's refreshing. |
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I work in IT sales. In some aspects its worse there than when I was in the Army.
At least in the Army the sufferers could act out their macho fantasies for real.
In sales, all they have is the chest beating... |
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Toxic femininity is a much worse issue. Numerous studies on female vs Male behaviour (from childhood onwards) show that females are much more social and will use emotional manipulation, guilty, bullying, pressure and rejection to control one another and others.
Whereas men don’t really care about the emotional side of things as much, they just compete until they get along in a hierarchy, or they ignore each other.
So i don’t really understand this “toxic masculinity”. It’s not even a scientific or psychologically based fact, it’s just a buzz word that the media picked up on |
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No
My work involves working mostly with guys in construction, they always treat me with respect but we do also enjoy a good bit of banter.
I prefer working with men, women can be catty buggers sometimes
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"Funny how all the people saying toxic masculinity doesn't exist are men, eh what?
I'm only saying no because there isn't any.. not in comparison to other places I've worked where there has been.
where you wearing that mini dress again? "
No.. it was the army.. I'd have been gang bummed. |
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"As a student I sometimes see men behaving lightly on the edge of this but it's soon stopped in its tracks, as younger men seem much more flexible han many older people, emotionally open as well as intolerant of any abuse. It's refreshing. "
I see younger people differently too.. Far more accepting of equality on all levels and people for their differences.
It's really rather beautiful to see. A nice counter to the rise of the political conservative right who prefer things the way they were. |
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Everyone keeps threatening to punch someone's face in where I work. It's never going to happen though.
Plus they tilt their heads whenever a nice woman walks through. As if they have a chance in the first place |
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