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"In the papers it says that a lady with a bowel condition asked if she could have an aisle seat in case she needed the loo pronto. The airline insisted she pay extra for the seat as her condition is not included in their definitio of disability. Sympathy for the lady or not ?" Yes | |||
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"In the papers it says that a lady with a bowel condition asked if she could have an aisle seat in case she needed the loo pronto. The airline insisted she pay extra for the seat as her condition is not included in their definitio of disability. Sympathy for the lady or not ?" don't use Ryanair that's my advice lol | |||
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"Yes. Though it's only 4 quid to choose your seat in the cheapest area of the and had I had bowel problems I'd have paid it. " Seriously only £4? Wonder why she didn't just pay instead of going to the papers. I thought IBS etc were considered disabilities now. I thought people get cards to show they need access to toilets as an emergency so shops will let them use theirs. | |||
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"I have to say that Ryanair really do take the mick by charging for everything and also providing their staff with the worst customer service training I’ve ever seen. Avoid at all costs." I fly a lot and I’m done with Ryanair. I won’t use them anymore. | |||
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"Yes. Though it's only 4 quid to choose your seat in the cheapest area of the and had I had bowel problems I'd have paid it. Seriously only £4? Wonder why she didn't just pay instead of going to the papers. I thought IBS etc were considered disabilities now. I thought people get cards to show they need access to toilets as an emergency so shops will let them use theirs. " Oh....maybe you do get a card then lol | |||
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"Yes. Though it's only 4 quid to choose your seat in the cheapest area of the and had I had bowel problems I'd have paid it. Seriously only £4? Wonder why she didn't just pay instead of going to the papers. I thought IBS etc were considered disabilities now. I thought people get cards to show they need access to toilets as an emergency so shops will let them use theirs. " I thought it was chrohns and colitis that you could get the cards for not IBS? And I think it's considered a chronic condition not a disability | |||
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"It's not for them to define what a disability is. You don't get a membership card when you have a condition that is considered likely to be a disability. I would have paid the £4 but then raised the issue by way of complaint. " Every time I fly with any airline with my child I always tick the disabilities box and I’ve never been asked for any proof and hers isn’t obvious to see. | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 26/07/19 13:11:49]" it is. The campaign not all disability is visible | |||
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"I have to say that Ryanair really do take the mick by charging for everything and also providing their staff with the worst customer service training I’ve ever seen. Avoid at all costs." They take the mick yes... but them amd other budget airlines have driven down the price of air travel in europe massively. I would be happy to fly with them I know what I am paying for they are very blunt about it | |||
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"Yes. Though it's only 4 quid to choose your seat in the cheapest area of the and had I had bowel problems I'd have paid it. Seriously only £4? Wonder why she didn't just pay instead of going to the papers. I thought IBS etc were considered disabilities now. I thought people get cards to show they need access to toilets as an emergency so shops will let them use theirs. I thought it was chrohns and colitis that you could get the cards for not IBS? And I think it's considered a chronic condition not a disability " its ccolitis that she has | |||
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"Ryan air are utter s*it. Id never fly with them again. Sooner fly with jet2 and thats saying something." Flew with easy jet and they were actually very smooth during take off and landing. Been on Over 10 Ryanair flights and the landing always shits me up. With easy jet i didnt even realise we were on the ground! To be fair I had just come from Amsterdam so maybe that’s why the landing seemed so smooth | |||
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"Yes. Though it's only 4 quid to choose your seat in the cheapest area of the and had I had bowel problems I'd have paid it. " I'd be like this too... Ffs something like that is my problem to deal with, not everyone else's to make allowances or concessions for. 4 quid for comfort isn't going to break the bank. | |||
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"£4 to upgrade her seat to an aisle seat. Is that true?" I fly frequently with Ryanair and seat selection is usually somewhere between €3 and €6, depending on where the seat is... So that sounds about right to me. | |||
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"£4 to upgrade her seat to an aisle seat. Is that true? I fly frequently with Ryanair and seat selection is usually somewhere between €3 and €6, depending on where the seat is... So that sounds about right to me. " Well I think it pays for people to read the thread as I feel the lady should have to pay this small fee as it does take extra staff time to sort the administration out involved. | |||
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"Why didn't she just book an aisle seat?" can you book specific seats with Ryanair? Never flown with them because I've read all the bad press and irrespective of price recommendations count I had to wait 7 hours one time I think it was at Stansted to pick up my daughter a few years back what a nightmare that was, I was with all the curly head bangers | |||
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"Why didn't she just book an aisle seat?can you book specific seats with Ryanair? Never flown with them because I've read all the bad press and irrespective of price recommendations count I had to wait 7 hours one time I think it was at Stansted to pick up my daughter a few years back what a nightmare that was, I was with all the curly head bangers " Yes you can book a seat but it costs extra. | |||
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"Yes. Though it's only 4 quid to choose your seat in the cheapest area of the and had I had bowel problems I'd have paid it. Seriously only £4? Wonder why she didn't just pay instead of going to the papers. I thought IBS etc were considered disabilities now. I thought people get cards to show they need access to toilets as an emergency so shops will let them use theirs. " Ibs isn't a disability ibd however is a whole different box of frogs. Many with uc or crohn's are covered under the equality act at work. Many businesses are now training staff to recognise the can't wait card which allows the bearer to use toilets in shops where they aren't for public use. | |||
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"I think she should have paid, if she required that seat. My husband has claustrophobia, which can be debilitating for him and prefers to sit near the window, so he can see out. We pay an extra £40 for those seats, with TUI and are happy to pay that, for his comfort. " yes but you live off the interest and live in the canary islands naked | |||
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"In the papers it says that a lady with a bowel condition asked if she could have an aisle seat in case she needed the loo pronto. The airline insisted she pay extra for the seat as her condition is not included in their definitio of disability. Sympathy for the lady or not ?" I read that story yesterday. Her boyfriend and mother had both been given free aisle seats as the mother has limited mobility and he said he was her cater, simple answer is that the boyfriend could have given her his aisle seat and sat next to the mother on the inside seat. They offered her a suitable seat for £9. How close to the nearest toilet was she on the journey to the airport I wonder. | |||
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"I think she should have paid, if she required that seat. My husband has claustrophobia, which can be debilitating for him and prefers to sit near the window, so he can see out. We pay an extra £40 for those seats, with TUI and are happy to pay that, for his comfort. yes but you live off the interest and live in the canary islands naked " Not sure what that means or the relevance to the thread | |||
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"If she has a card then yes very bad of them. Sadly lots of people fake problems to make it easy for them to get something free or easy. " A wee bit cynical if a may say. Why not take the word of the passenger? She was not trying to obtain an upgrade costing hundreds/thousands of pounds. She needed a slightly more convenient seat. Why should an airline charge any more for a particular seat? Way of the world these day treat passengers badly, rather than trying to help them. | |||
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"Everyone slated Ryan air booking conditions clearly state costs and charges it’s a no frills airline you pay for what you get simple as that. " Yes, true we have to a large extent brought it upon ourselves. | |||
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"To OP yes absolute sympathy All airlines are as bad these days, I fly quite a bit of long haul at times for work my BA exec club has a preference for an aisle seat as I have a back issue and have to get up at least once an hour and walk about a bit and stretch, every single flight I have booked in the last 3 years they have allocated a middle or window seat, luckily I have managed to change most, but had the misfortune of being sat next to an complete asshole who was not happy that I wanted to get up frequently yet didn’t want to swap seats..... I am sure the airlines do it in the hope to sell a seat move " Maybe that person had paid for his aisle seat | |||
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"To OP yes absolute sympathy All airlines are as bad these days, I fly quite a bit of long haul at times for work my BA exec club has a preference for an aisle seat as I have a back issue and have to get up at least once an hour and walk about a bit and stretch, every single flight I have booked in the last 3 years they have allocated a middle or window seat, luckily I have managed to change most, but had the misfortune of being sat next to an complete asshole who was not happy that I wanted to get up frequently yet didn’t want to swap seats..... I am sure the airlines do it in the hope to sell a seat move Maybe that person had paid for his aisle seat " I've had this once. I pay extra when booking to have a seat with extra legroom so I can stretch my legs a bit as I generally have a 3.5-4 hour bus journey just to get to the airport before flying and have been cramped up enough already... Last time I flew to Manchester someone asked me to swap seats because the rest of their group were sitting in my row (they had also paid extra, but the person who asked me to move hadn't and was sitting behind us). I said no. | |||
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"To OP yes absolute sympathy All airlines are as bad these days, I fly quite a bit of long haul at times for work my BA exec club has a preference for an aisle seat as I have a back issue and have to get up at least once an hour and walk about a bit and stretch, every single flight I have booked in the last 3 years they have allocated a middle or window seat, luckily I have managed to change most, but had the misfortune of being sat next to an complete asshole who was not happy that I wanted to get up frequently yet didn’t want to swap seats..... I am sure the airlines do it in the hope to sell a seat move Maybe that person had paid for his aisle seat I've had this once. I pay extra when booking to have a seat with extra legroom so I can stretch my legs a bit as I generally have a 3.5-4 hour bus journey just to get to the airport before flying and have been cramped up enough already... Last time I flew to Manchester someone asked me to swap seats because the rest of their group were sitting in my row (they had also paid extra, but the person who asked me to move hadn't and was sitting behind us). I said no." Good for you. We always book the seat numbers that suit us, if it were a genuine medical emergency, then I would be happy to give up my seat | |||
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"In the papers it says that a lady with a bowel condition asked if she could have an aisle seat in case she needed the loo pronto. The airline insisted she pay extra for the seat as her condition is not included in their definitio of disability. Sympathy for the lady or not ?" No sympathy for Rhino Air, they are a bunch of wankers. | |||
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"In the papers it says that a lady with a bowel condition asked if she could have an aisle seat in case she needed the loo pronto. The airline insisted she pay extra for the seat as her condition is not included in their definitio of disability. Sympathy for the lady or not ?" ""Not included in their definition of disability"" The passenger concerned needed some help, not someone reading out the airline's T&Cs.... | |||
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"I am alright Jack.....to hell with the rest of you !!!" I don't think its a case of that, we know my husband has this condition and so pay for an appropriate seat, I wouldn't expect someone to give up their seat for him. This lady knows she has health issues and maybe should do the same, so she can guarantee the seat she needs. | |||
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"I am alright Jack.....to hell with the rest of you !!! I don't think its a case of that, we know my husband has this condition and so pay for an appropriate seat, I wouldn't expect someone to give up their seat for him. This lady knows she has health issues and maybe should do the same, so she can guarantee the seat she needs. " ...or the airline could try and assist her rather than simply regarding her and disability as a source of revenue. Oh, I forgot, it is Rhino Air..!!! | |||
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"Yes. Though it's only 4 quid to choose your seat in the cheapest area of the and had I had bowel problems I'd have paid it. Seriously only £4? Wonder why she didn't just pay instead of going to the papers. I thought IBS etc were considered disabilities now. I thought people get cards to show they need access to toilets as an emergency so shops will let them use theirs. Ibs isn't a disability ibd however is a whole different box of frogs. Many with uc or crohn's are covered under the equality act at work. Many businesses are now training staff to recognise the can't wait card which allows the bearer to use toilets in shops where they aren't for public use. " I knew I'd read it somewhere. I couldn't remember the condition it was for. | |||
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"I am alright Jack.....to hell with the rest of you !!! I don't think its a case of that, we know my husband has this condition and so pay for an appropriate seat, I wouldn't expect someone to give up their seat for him. This lady knows she has health issues and maybe should do the same, so she can guarantee the seat she needs. ...or the airline could try and assist her rather than simply regarding her and disability as a source of revenue. Oh, I forgot, it is Rhino Air..!!!" And what happens if others have problems and need certain seats, they haven't booked or paid for and others have paid to book those particular seats? | |||
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"You get what you pay for on the budget airlines but its only a couple of pound extra, I would rather pay for it then bring up the subject " Exactly this,it guarantees you're comfortable. I find on most flights the toilet queues are always long, so you need to start planning early on, if you need the toilet | |||
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"2 issues Yes it should be classed as a disability but don’t know how you would prove it unless you got a doctors letter it would not b unreasonable to ask for proof or everyone would do it Don’t know why people slag them off .they are very open about have u have to pay for everything that’s why a basic flight with nothing added is cheap " | |||
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"Some incredibly selfish folk around..... Some kindness, cooperation and helpfulness go a long way... But, hey we live in the ME ME ME, I want generation !!!!" I really don't see your point. If you went to a restaurant and ordered steak, how would you feel if the waiter gave your steak to someone who had ordered a burger but then told the waiter they really really really wanted steak (just didn't want to pay more for it). If someone has the means to book flights and travel, they can book according to their comfort needs, not expect others who have done so to accommodate their cheapness. The heart of this story isn't a disability issue... It's actually a sense of entitlement and outrage that they didn't get what they wanted for free issue. | |||
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"Some incredibly selfish folk around..... Some kindness, cooperation and helpfulness go a long way... But, hey we live in the ME ME ME, I want generation !!!! I really don't see your point. If you went to a restaurant and ordered steak, how would you feel if the waiter gave your steak to someone who had ordered a burger but then told the waiter they really really really wanted steak (just didn't want to pay more for it). If someone has the means to book flights and travel, they can book according to their comfort needs, not expect others who have done so to accommodate their cheapness. The heart of this story isn't a disability issue... It's actually a sense of entitlement and outrage that they didn't get what they wanted for free issue." Exactly this, you are responsible for your own comfort, by considering your seating needs, we do it and pay £40 for it, £4 is very reasonable | |||
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"Yes........as I said earlier several selfish "I am alright Jack" folk around. What about thinking about the needs of others before yourself? Ever thought about giving up your seat on a train or bus for someone who needs it more than YOU??" If that is directed at me, as I said above, if it is a medical emergency, I would happily give up my seat, that I had paid for. As regards train journeys and travelling to hospital in London, with my sick sister in law, no one gives their seat up, we would have loved a seat for her | |||
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"One point I haven't seen mentioned here is... I get a warning of imminent explosion... granted, it's a couple of minutes. I'm sat by the window, so can fly over the 2 people to get to the aisle, or pay the extra to sit by the aisle. I clench all the way to the toilets, and.... they are occupied. If I'm gonna shit myself, 4 quid aint gonna make much difference for an aisle seat in certain circumstances. " Exactly, as I said above, there are always queues. | |||
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"My last post was not directed at anyone in particular. My feeling is for the lady who, based on information supplied, has a medical condition. Is it unreasonable to expect the airline or maybe a fellow passenger to come to her aid? " It may be for Ryan Air, I don't fly with them... | |||
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"My last post was not directed at anyone in particular. My feeling is for the lady who, based on information supplied, has a medical condition. Is it unreasonable to expect the airline or maybe a fellow passenger to come to her aid? " The information supplied might not be correct in the first place, let’s face it the media love those compo faces against big companies. | |||
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"My last post was not directed at anyone in particular. My feeling is for the lady who, based on information supplied, has a medical condition. Is it unreasonable to expect the airline or maybe a fellow passenger to come to her aid? The information supplied might not be correct in the first place, let’s face it the media love those compo faces against big companies. " | |||
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"To OP yes absolute sympathy All airlines are as bad these days, I fly quite a bit of long haul at times for work my BA exec club has a preference for an aisle seat as I have a back issue and have to get up at least once an hour and walk about a bit and stretch, every single flight I have booked in the last 3 years they have allocated a middle or window seat, luckily I have managed to change most, but had the misfortune of being sat next to an complete asshole who was not happy that I wanted to get up frequently yet didn’t want to swap seats..... I am sure the airlines do it in the hope to sell a seat move Maybe that person had paid for his aisle seat I've had this once. I pay extra when booking to have a seat with extra legroom so I can stretch my legs a bit as I generally have a 3.5-4 hour bus journey just to get to the airport before flying and have been cramped up enough already... Last time I flew to Manchester someone asked me to swap seats because the rest of their group were sitting in my row (they had also paid extra, but the person who asked me to move hadn't and was sitting behind us). I said no." Good for you! Hope they didn't give you hassle. | |||
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"We have recently booked flights with easyJet and found they couldn't do enough to help us. " Hope you managed to get to London, without too much trouble ,Lornaxx | |||
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"We have recently booked flights with easyJet and found they couldn't do enough to help us. Hope you managed to get to London, without too much trouble ,Lornaxx" Oh well that was a nightmare! Was meant to arrive at Ash's about 4.30, ended up not walking through the door till gone 10.30. | |||
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"We have recently booked flights with easyJet and found they couldn't do enough to help us. Hope you managed to get to London, without too much trouble ,Lornaxx Oh well that was a nightmare! Was meant to arrive at Ash's about 4.30, ended up not walking through the door till gone 10.30. " Oh bless you, I wondered how you were getting on, never mind you're there now, that's the main thing and you have your lovely holiday to look forward to xx | |||
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"Worst airline going. I'm skint and even I wouldn't fly with Ryan Air. Every other budget airline I've used have been awesome. From nose to tail, rotten to the core. " You get what you pay for, I suppose, that's why we don't bother | |||
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"Not sure about the new planes they have ordered. Two have crashed already.. all grounded " Oops | |||
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"Why didn't she just book an aisle seat?can you book specific seats with Ryanair? Never flown with them because I've read all the bad press and irrespective of price recommendations count I had to wait 7 hours one time I think it was at Stansted to pick up my daughter a few years back what a nightmare that was, I was with all the curly head bangers " Yes you can. | |||
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"I think she should have paid, if she required that seat. My husband has claustrophobia, which can be debilitating for him and prefers to sit near the window, so he can see out. We pay an extra £40 for those seats, with TUI and are happy to pay that, for his comfort. yes but you live off the interest and live in the canary islands naked Not sure what that means or the relevance to the thread " the relevance is if you want to sit somewhere specific to make your journey more comfortable then you have to pay for the privilege | |||
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"I think she should have paid, if she required that seat. My husband has claustrophobia, which can be debilitating for him and prefers to sit near the window, so he can see out. We pay an extra £40 for those seats, with TUI and are happy to pay that, for his comfort. yes but you live off the interest and live in the canary islands naked Not sure what that means or the relevance to the thread the relevance is if you want to sit somewhere specific to make your journey more comfortable then you have to pay for the privilege " Which is what we do, but I don't live in the Canary Islands | |||
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"I feel sorry for any one that flies with Ryanair. Michael O’Leary is an absolute lunatic of a man. He wanted to introduce a standing section on his planes for craps sake. " standing room only really like a little coral of cheapskates? Lol | |||
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"I'm with Ryanair. When you book with Ryanair you know its the basic fare and everything else.... Baggage seat etc is extra. If you want aisle seat simple pay the £4." I thought it sounded simple | |||
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"I feel sorry for any one that flies with Ryanair. Michael O’Leary is an absolute lunatic of a man. He wanted to introduce a standing section on his planes for craps sake. " And I for one would rather stand than try and did myself and my bar back into a midget seat | |||
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"Worst airline going. I'm skint and even I wouldn't fly with Ryan Air. Every other budget airline I've used have been awesome. From nose to tail, rotten to the core. You get what you pay for, I suppose, that's why we don't bother " Norwegian Airlines, Monarch, Easyjet are three budget Airlines I've traveled back and forth to Spain on from Birmingham or Bristol. All three are priced in same bracket as Ryan Air.. All three have pleasant staff on desk, gate and air crew. All three have adequate legroom. I've flown all over the world as a kid/teen/tween. From Qatar Airways to propellor driven passenger planes so intimately small you can get a great view from the cockpit from the last row. There is First Class Business Class Humanity (Economy) and then Ryan Air. It shows in the faces of their employees. | |||
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"In the papers it says that a lady with a bowel condition asked if she could have an aisle seat in case she needed the loo pronto. The airline insisted she pay extra for the seat as her condition is not included in their definitio of disability. Sympathy for the lady or not ?" . No not really, she'll be back flying with them the next time after bitching and moaning for a bit. Everybody who fly's in Ryan air hates them, they're fucking awful but there really cheap as well, so we keep going back and moaning. This moaning bitch could have booked with BA and saved us all the drama. | |||
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"Yes........as I said earlier several selfish "I am alright Jack" folk around. What about thinking about the needs of others before yourself? Ever thought about giving up your seat on a train or bus for someone who needs it more than YOU?? If that is directed at me, as I said above, if it is a medical emergency, I would happily give up my seat, that I had paid for. As regards train journeys and travelling to hospital in London, with my sick sister in law, no one gives their seat up, we would have loved a seat for her " Samiss. Picking up on your comment about lack of adequate seating on trains, are you aware each train company in the UK is signed up to Passenger Assistance services. You can be met at all stations from start to finish, if you have any seats reserved, personnel will ensure you get seated ok in your chosen seat. Above all, the service is free. I use it all the time when travelling home from Warwick to Hull and back, as I've mobility issues boarding and exiting trains, due to severe Osteoarthritis in both knees and one hand. PM me for info. | |||
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"I think she should have paid, if she required that seat. My husband has claustrophobia, which can be debilitating for him and prefers to sit near the window, so he can see out. We pay an extra £40 for those seats, with TUI and are happy to pay that, for his comfort. yes but you live off the interest and live in the canary islands naked Not sure what that means or the relevance to the thread the relevance is if you want to sit somewhere specific to make your journey more comfortable then you have to pay for the privilege " You should not have to pay extra simply because you have a disability. The Law is very clear about this. Reasonable adjustments should be made, this seems reasonable. | |||
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"Yes........as I said earlier several selfish "I am alright Jack" folk around. What about thinking about the needs of others before yourself? Ever thought about giving up your seat on a train or bus for someone who needs it more than YOU?? If that is directed at me, as I said above, if it is a medical emergency, I would happily give up my seat, that I had paid for. As regards train journeys and travelling to hospital in London, with my sick sister in law, no one gives their seat up, we would have loved a seat for her Samiss. Picking up on your comment about lack of adequate seating on trains, are you aware each train company in the UK is signed up to Passenger Assistance services. You can be met at all stations from start to finish, if you have any seats reserved, personnel will ensure you get seated ok in your chosen seat. Above all, the service is free. I use it all the time when travelling home from Warwick to Hull and back, as I've mobility issues boarding and exiting trains, due to severe Osteoarthritis in both knees and one hand. PM me for info." Thank you Iain, wish I had have known that, sadly we won t be making anymore journeys, my sister in law has terminal cancer and doesn't have long left. She was always too proud to let us ask for a seat, but she was clearly ill... | |||
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"I think she should have paid, if she required that seat. My husband has claustrophobia, which can be debilitating for him and prefers to sit near the window, so he can see out. We pay an extra £40 for those seats, with TUI and are happy to pay that, for his comfort. yes but you live off the interest and live in the canary islands naked Not sure what that means or the relevance to the thread the relevance is if you want to sit somewhere specific to make your journey more comfortable then you have to pay for the privilege You should not have to pay extra simply because you have a disability. The Law is very clear about this. Reasonable adjustments should be made, this seems reasonable. " ahhhh and as much as you are right and you are it's a business and unfortunately in our neck of the woods businesses flourish on supply and demand, Ryanairs main draw is the basic premise ' a cheap or even the cheapest basic fare from A to B ' which could be true until you add up all the extras and the unreliability of the service, you get what you pay for applies here | |||
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"I feel sorry for any one that flies with Ryanair. Michael O’Leary is an absolute lunatic of a man. He wanted to introduce a standing section on his planes for craps sake. " You’d by a space if it was cheaper lol | |||
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"In the papers it says that a lady with a bowel condition asked if she could have an aisle seat in case she needed the loo pronto. The airline insisted she pay extra for the seat as her condition is not included in their definitio of disability. Sympathy for the lady or not ?" Of course. Shame again on Ryanair. They revel in treating people like shit. | |||
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"Some people do nothing to help themselves and just like the 'woe is me' factor and tell the tabloids for a bit of sympathy. I'm sure if she asked someone to swap her window seat for the isle cos she might shit on them they'd have jumped at the chance! Get off your soap box box and enjoy your holiday." yes exactly was it on outward or homeward journey? | |||
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"Yes I have sympathy for her. What would Ryanair rather she shits her pants because she can't get to toilet fast enough ? Very poor understanding and service from them x" But if fasten your seatbelts sign is on!!!! | |||
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"Shame again on Ryanair. They revel in treating people like shit." Still one of most successful airlines on the planet though. Maybe it’s a case of them adhering fiercely to their business model, which, incidentally, propelled them to business super stardom. That model which allows joe public to travel to the far side of Europe and back for half the price of an out of date box of hamster food, moved to the cereal aisle and re-badged as cornflakes, Kellogg's Cornflakes at that, in the likes of B&M. They don’t treat people like shit, they’re just not shy about about reminding people about what they’re money actually bought because most of the moaners either can’t read, or couldn’t be arsed reading the small print, all whilst simultaneously being savvy enough to click no to all the extras when booking, and then moon walki across the room, doing a selfie with their tongue out (probably not on purpose) because they actually got the ticket for 50p and managed to bypass being ‘scammed’ by Ryanair for all the extras they allegedly tried to ‘force’ upon them. Ryanair’s very existence relies on people like this, and the odd few that will buy many/all of the extras, because ultimately what counts, is getting there. After all, the vast majority of people making use of low cost airlines, will always use them again if they’re the cheapest despite being let down by them previously, what they call let down anyway. No you fucking can’t have 500kg of luggage, a pizza, 25 bottles of beer and have the Captains seat on a flight that you paid 50p for to Benidorm! Lidl, Aldi, B&M etc, all very successful because they sell shit cheap. Ryanair have almost single handedly driven airfares to rock bottom, it’s become the norm. So much so, that some people think they’re entitled to way more for the same price. Ryanair are just happy to politely tell the shameless, dumb arse, tight cheeky fucker customers to ram it. It’s not a case of having a policy that instructs every individual in their company to treat people like shit. With mega cut down prices, it’s almost inevitable that elements of the service will be shit. If one makes a choice to buy shit because it’s cheap, expect it to actually be shit. You’re not entitled to anything else. Worthwhile remembering that they usually get you to your destination and very rarely crash and splatter you, unlike some other companies out there that included a slice of pizza (margarita) for what you thought was the same price as Ryanair, but was in-fact, £50 more expensive, but you didn’t notice that because you zoomed in on the FREE pizza bit whilst page hoping on the Internet comparing prices. They ought to charge you for farting, breathing and remove the bogs on their flights be fair, given that many of their tickets are so astoundingly cheap. Stop fucking moaning you tight gits and enjoy your holiday lol! | |||
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"Shame again on Ryanair. They revel in treating people like shit. Still one of most successful airlines on the planet though. Maybe it’s a case of them adhering fiercely to their business model, which, incidentally, propelled them to business super stardom. That model which allows joe public to travel to the far side of Europe and back for half the price of an out of date box of hamster food, moved to the cereal aisle and re-badged as cornflakes, Kellogg's Cornflakes at that, in the likes of B&M. They don’t treat people like shit, they’re just not shy about about reminding people about what they’re money actually bought because most of the moaners either can’t read, or couldn’t be arsed reading the small print, all whilst simultaneously being savvy enough to click no to all the extras when booking, and then moon walki across the room, doing a selfie with their tongue out (probably not on purpose) because they actually got the ticket for 50p and managed to bypass being ‘scammed’ by Ryanair for all the extras they allegedly tried to ‘force’ upon them. Ryanair’s very existence relies on people like this, and the odd few that will buy many/all of the extras, because ultimately what counts, is getting there. After all, the vast majority of people making use of low cost airlines, will always use them again if they’re the cheapest despite being let down by them previously, what they call let down anyway. No you fucking can’t have 500kg of luggage, a pizza, 25 bottles of beer and have the Captains seat on a flight that you paid 50p for to Benidorm! Lidl, Aldi, B&M etc, all very successful because they sell shit cheap. Ryanair have almost single handedly driven airfares to rock bottom, it’s become the norm. So much so, that some people think they’re entitled to way more for the same price. Ryanair are just happy to politely tell the shameless, dumb arse, tight cheeky fucker customers to ram it. It’s not a case of having a policy that instructs every individual in their company to treat people like shit. With mega cut down prices, it’s almost inevitable that elements of the service will be shit. If one makes a choice to buy shit because it’s cheap, expect it to actually be shit. You’re not entitled to anything else. Worthwhile remembering that they usually get you to your destination and very rarely crash and splatter you, unlike some other companies out there that included a slice of pizza (margarita) for what you thought was the same price as Ryanair, but was in-fact, £50 more expensive, but you didn’t notice that because you zoomed in on the FREE pizza bit whilst page hoping on the Internet comparing prices. They ought to charge you for farting, breathing and remove the bogs on their flights be fair, given that many of their tickets are so astoundingly cheap. Stop fucking moaning you tight gits and enjoy your holiday lol! " Epic rant!! | |||
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"Shame again on Ryanair. They revel in treating people like shit. Still one of most successful airlines on the planet though. Maybe it’s a case of them adhering fiercely to their business model, which, incidentally, propelled them to business super stardom. That model which allows joe public to travel to the far side of Europe and back for half the price of an out of date box of hamster food, moved to the cereal aisle and re-badged as cornflakes, Kellogg's Cornflakes at that, in the likes of B&M. They don’t treat people like shit, they’re just not shy about about reminding people about what they’re money actually bought because most of the moaners either can’t read, or couldn’t be arsed reading the small print, all whilst simultaneously being savvy enough to click no to all the extras when booking, and then moon walki across the room, doing a selfie with their tongue out (probably not on purpose) because they actually got the ticket for 50p and managed to bypass being ‘scammed’ by Ryanair for all the extras they allegedly tried to ‘force’ upon them. Ryanair’s very existence relies on people like this, and the odd few that will buy many/all of the extras, because ultimately what counts, is getting there. After all, the vast majority of people making use of low cost airlines, will always use them again if they’re the cheapest despite being let down by them previously, what they call let down anyway. No you fucking can’t have 500kg of luggage, a pizza, 25 bottles of beer and have the Captains seat on a flight that you paid 50p for to Benidorm! Lidl, Aldi, B&M etc, all very successful because they sell shit cheap. Ryanair have almost single handedly driven airfares to rock bottom, it’s become the norm. So much so, that some people think they’re entitled to way more for the same price. Ryanair are just happy to politely tell the shameless, dumb arse, tight cheeky fucker customers to ram it. It’s not a case of having a policy that instructs every individual in their company to treat people like shit. With mega cut down prices, it’s almost inevitable that elements of the service will be shit. If one makes a choice to buy shit because it’s cheap, expect it to actually be shit. You’re not entitled to anything else. Worthwhile remembering that they usually get you to your destination and very rarely crash and splatter you, unlike some other companies out there that included a slice of pizza (margarita) for what you thought was the same price as Ryanair, but was in-fact, £50 more expensive, but you didn’t notice that because you zoomed in on the FREE pizza bit whilst page hoping on the Internet comparing prices. They ought to charge you for farting, breathing and remove the bogs on their flights be fair, given that many of their tickets are so astoundingly cheap. Stop fucking moaning you tight gits and enjoy your holiday lol! " I’ve had enough experiences of bad customer from Ryanair to form my opinion. Would I still use them? Yes if there’s not a reasonable alternative. Corporate culture comes from the top and he strikes me as something of a smug prick. He may be wealthy and successful but he can still be a prick. | |||
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"Shame again on Ryanair. They revel in treating people like shit. Still one of most successful airlines on the planet though. Maybe it’s a case of them adhering fiercely to their business model, which, incidentally, propelled them to business super stardom. That model which allows joe public to travel to the far side of Europe and back for half the price of an out of date box of hamster food, moved to the cereal aisle and re-badged as cornflakes, Kellogg's Cornflakes at that, in the likes of B&M. They don’t treat people like shit, they’re just not shy about about reminding people about what they’re money actually bought because most of the moaners either can’t read, or couldn’t be arsed reading the small print, all whilst simultaneously being savvy enough to click no to all the extras when booking, and then moon walki across the room, doing a selfie with their tongue out (probably not on purpose) because they actually got the ticket for 50p and managed to bypass being ‘scammed’ by Ryanair for all the extras they allegedly tried to ‘force’ upon them. Ryanair’s very existence relies on people like this, and the odd few that will buy many/all of the extras, because ultimately what counts, is getting there. After all, the vast majority of people making use of low cost airlines, will always use them again if they’re the cheapest despite being let down by them previously, what they call let down anyway. No you fucking can’t have 500kg of luggage, a pizza, 25 bottles of beer and have the Captains seat on a flight that you paid 50p for to Benidorm! Lidl, Aldi, B&M etc, all very successful because they sell shit cheap. Ryanair have almost single handedly driven airfares to rock bottom, it’s become the norm. So much so, that some people think they’re entitled to way more for the same price. Ryanair are just happy to politely tell the shameless, dumb arse, tight cheeky fucker customers to ram it. It’s not a case of having a policy that instructs every individual in their company to treat people like shit. With mega cut down prices, it’s almost inevitable that elements of the service will be shit. If one makes a choice to buy shit because it’s cheap, expect it to actually be shit. You’re not entitled to anything else. Worthwhile remembering that they usually get you to your destination and very rarely crash and splatter you, unlike some other companies out there that included a slice of pizza (margarita) for what you thought was the same price as Ryanair, but was in-fact, £50 more expensive, but you didn’t notice that because you zoomed in on the FREE pizza bit whilst page hoping on the Internet comparing prices. They ought to charge you for farting, breathing and remove the bogs on their flights be fair, given that many of their tickets are so astoundingly cheap. Stop fucking moaning you tight gits and enjoy your holiday lol! " Do you work for Ryanair by any chance? | |||
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"Do you work for Ryanair by any chance? " Nah, gave up creaming my jeans in anticipation of the proverbial pay day Friday/weekend many moons ago. As the saying goes, you don’t get rich digging another man’s ditch. Just have an appreciation of the business model that’s all, and firmly believe that if you’re paying the square root of f**k all for your ticket and flying on a modern jet worth around £90 million quid with enormous operating costs, then you ought to be bloody grateful. More often than not, there’s a more upmarket alternative, but that’d mean spending a few more quid, and for most, they’d rather not. | |||
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" Corporate culture comes from the top and he strikes me as something of a smug prick. He may be wealthy and successful but he can still be a prick." He may well be a smug prick, but maybe he’s wealthy and successful because he knows there’s a lot of not so wealthy and not so smug pricks that’ll still choose to fly his airline despite hating it, all because it’s....CHEAP lol | |||
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" Epic rant!! " Ohhhhhhh yes (said in my best Churchill dog voice!) Can’t resist a little winding of the Black Friday Jean Creamer Brigade | |||
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"I never have and never will fly with Ryanair. Unscrupulous crooks." Ha ha only a matter of time before you do, given you feel so strongly having never personally experienced their service....or have you? And your telling little porky pies! | |||
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"I never have and never will fly with Ryanair. Unscrupulous crooks. Ha ha only a matter of time before you do, given you feel so strongly having never personally experienced their service....or have you? And your telling little porky pies! " I have colleagues have have used their service and been left high and dry when services were cancelled. The whole ethos of the company is the antithesis of what I expect from a service I would use. I have flown extensively for the last 30 years and never choose to use the airline. I will fly to alternative destinations simply to avoid them. | |||
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"Sympathy yes but lets get real if you have issues or an illness you avoid Ryan Air at all costs." exactly was that a pun | |||
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"TUI charge £40 to choose your seat numbers, it's a rip off, but for us, necessary so my husband is comfortable, so I'm happy to pay it." Choosing to do so simply for comfort I'd one thing. Having to choose certain seats for something that may be covered under the equalities act is another. | |||
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"I never have and never will fly with Ryanair. Unscrupulous crooks. Ha ha only a matter of time before you do, given you feel so strongly having never personally experienced their service....or have you? And your telling little porky pies! I have colleagues have have used their service and been left high and dry when services were cancelled. The whole ethos of the company is the antithesis of what I expect from a service I would use. I have flown extensively for the last 30 years and never choose to use the airline. I will fly to alternative destinations simply to avoid them." No ones left high and dry when a service is cancelled, and they’re not cancelled lightly either, usually force majeure. They’ll always get a refund and possibly compensation. They might have been left very disappointed, but the Civil Aviation Authority will ultimately step in and see that it’s put right. You’re not the only one who’s extensively travelled, lots of people are these days because of the likes of Ryanair! We’ve travelled with many airlines, from budget to what some people might call luxury long-haul, and experienced cancellations many times. Way the cookie crumbles. Life’s still exciting and fun | |||
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"Some incredibly selfish folk around..... Some kindness, cooperation and helpfulness go a long way... But, hey we live in the ME ME ME, I want generation !!!!" Oh yes this entirely! | |||
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"I never have and never will fly with Ryanair. Unscrupulous crooks. Ha ha only a matter of time before you do, given you feel so strongly having never personally experienced their service....or have you? And your telling little porky pies! I have colleagues have have used their service and been left high and dry when services were cancelled. The whole ethos of the company is the antithesis of what I expect from a service I would use. I have flown extensively for the last 30 years and never choose to use the airline. I will fly to alternative destinations simply to avoid them. No ones left high and dry when a service is cancelled, and they’re not cancelled lightly either, usually force majeure. They’ll always get a refund and possibly compensation. They might have been left very disappointed, but the Civil Aviation Authority will ultimately step in and see that it’s put right. You’re not the only one who’s extensively travelled, lots of people are these days because of the likes of Ryanair! We’ve travelled with many airlines, from budget to what some people might call luxury long-haul, and experienced cancellations many times. Way the cookie crumbles. Life’s still exciting and fun " Try telling people who were left in Bratislava with no flight out for three days. The staff all cleared off before the announcement was made so they didn’t have to deal with it. I have no idea why you defend them but some of their behaviour regarding customers is indefensible. | |||
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"I never have and never will fly with Ryanair. Unscrupulous crooks. Ha ha only a matter of time before you do, given you feel so strongly having never personally experienced their service....or have you? And your telling little porky pies! I have colleagues have have used their service and been left high and dry when services were cancelled. The whole ethos of the company is the antithesis of what I expect from a service I would use. I have flown extensively for the last 30 years and never choose to use the airline. I will fly to alternative destinations simply to avoid them. No ones left high and dry when a service is cancelled, and they’re not cancelled lightly either, usually force majeure. They’ll always get a refund and possibly compensation. They might have been left very disappointed, but the Civil Aviation Authority will ultimately step in and see that it’s put right. You’re not the only one who’s extensively travelled, lots of people are these days because of the likes of Ryanair! We’ve travelled with many airlines, from budget to what some people might call luxury long-haul, and experienced cancellations many times. Way the cookie crumbles. Life’s still exciting and fun Try telling people who were left in Bratislava with no flight out for three days. The staff all cleared off before the announcement was made so they didn’t have to deal with it. I have no idea why you defend them but some of their behaviour regarding customers is indefensible. " I’m not defending them per se, if you’d really read our responses properly you’d understand our comments are more about the low cost model of air travel full stop. As for your Bratislava remark, weren’t left high and dry then were they if they got home after 3 days. An extra 3 days off work, staying on holiday, all at the airlines expense. Come on admit it, you’ve really flown with them and they’ve screwed you over (in your opinion) and you can’t let it go! You couldn’t be this angry and not have! | |||
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"TUI charge £40 to choose your seat numbers, it's a rip off, but for us, necessary so my husband is comfortable, so I'm happy to pay it. Choosing to do so simply for comfort I'd one thing. Having to choose certain seats for something that may be covered under the equalities act is another. " He has a chronic illness, so I'm happy to pay so he is comfortable, I'm not really bothered about the equalities act | |||
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"I Hollie use Ryan air a lot as daughter lives Tenerife I always book aisle seat as I have mental health problems so no I wouldn't swap my seat I pay for aisle as it makes me feel more comfortable so you pay few extra quid for comfort it's your comfort why expect it free. Hollie " exactly this | |||
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"I've flown Ryan Air. Read the Ts and Cs, sorted out my boarding pass, made sure my luggage met their criteria, arrived on time, read the departure screens and made sure I was in the right place at the right time. Not a single problem. The couple at the check in desk creating seven shades of Hell, who arrived late, sat in the bar drinking, missed their call and didn't have their passes ready however...... One of them didn't even have their passport. Somehow all of this was the fault of Ryan Air." | |||
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"Not a fan of Ryanair. I've seen them go along the queue to board, measuring carry on luggage and charging people 50 quid a pop when they deemed their bags were too big. That to me is totally cynical and like shooting fish in a barrel. Should have been done at check in, when people had the option to check their bags in, not at the gate, but then theyd be missing out in a nice little earner. Much prefer Easyjet. " People bringing bags that are too big is Ryan Airs responsibility then? I prefer Virgin or BA. But RA are a lot less expensive. I simply do as they ask and take my role as a passenger seriously. | |||
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"Well if she knew she would get the runs without the ability to run surely she would pay the extra? It’s not the airlines fault, just pay for what you need. " Right. So people with medical conditions and disabilities should pay extra for the "privilege" of being able to travel like the rest of us.... | |||
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"Well if she knew she would get the runs without the ability to run surely she would pay the extra? It’s not the airlines fault, just pay for what you need. " | |||
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"I am short sighted. I don’t get free glasses, or even eye tests these days. Women have to pay for sanitary products. Life just isn’t fair " It's certainly not. But we csn try and make it a little more fair one incident at a time. | |||
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"Not a fan of Ryanair. I've seen them go along the queue to board, measuring carry on luggage and charging people 50 quid a pop when they deemed their bags were too big. That to me is totally cynical and like shooting fish in a barrel. Should have been done at check in, when people had the option to check their bags in, not at the gate, but then theyd be missing out in a nice little earner. Much prefer Easyjet. People bringing bags that are too big is Ryan Airs responsibility then? I prefer Virgin or BA. But RA are a lot less expensive. I simply do as they ask and take my role as a passenger seriously." No, that isn't what I objected to, it was the cynical way they were measuring bags just as people were about to board, when they effectively had them over a barrel . Also not everyone flies frequently and is au fait with the hand luggage sizes, which also at the time had just changed. I used to fly a lot, not as much since kids, Ryanair are cheap but definitely not cheerful. | |||
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"Not a fan of Ryanair. I've seen them go along the queue to board, measuring carry on luggage and charging people 50 quid a pop when they deemed their bags were too big. That to me is totally cynical and like shooting fish in a barrel. Should have been done at check in, when people had the option to check their bags in, not at the gate, but then theyd be missing out in a nice little earner. Much prefer Easyjet. People bringing bags that are too big is Ryan Airs responsibility then? I prefer Virgin or BA. But RA are a lot less expensive. I simply do as they ask and take my role as a passenger seriously." lol I read your name as stingy Byron then | |||
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"I've flown Ryan Air. Read the Ts and Cs, sorted out my boarding pass, made sure my luggage met their criteria, arrived on time, read the departure screens and made sure I was in the right place at the right time. Not a single problem. The couple at the check in desk creating seven shades of Hell, who arrived late, sat in the bar drinking, missed their call and didn't have their passes ready however...... One of them didn't even have their passport. Somehow all of this was the fault of Ryan Air." This | |||
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"Yes. Though it's only 4 quid to choose your seat in the cheapest area of the and had I had bowel problems I'd have paid it. Seriously only £4? Wonder why she didn't just pay instead of going to the papers. I thought IBS etc were considered disabilities now. I thought people get cards to show they need access to toilets as an emergency so shops will let them use theirs. Oh....maybe you do get a card then lol " Only with Chrons as far as I’m aware. IBS you don’t get one as far as I’m aware. X | |||
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"Not a fan of Ryanair. I've seen them go along the queue to board, measuring carry on luggage and charging people 50 quid a pop when they deemed their bags were too big. That to me is totally cynical and like shooting fish in a barrel. Should have been done at check in, when people had the option to check their bags in, not at the gate, but then theyd be missing out in a nice little earner. Much prefer Easyjet. People bringing bags that are too big is Ryan Airs responsibility then? I prefer Virgin or BA. But RA are a lot less expensive. I simply do as they ask and take my role as a passenger seriously.lol I read your name as stingy Byron then " Auto carrot frequently changes it to Stingy. There's a message there I'm sure.... | |||
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"Ryan air sucks. I hate the way the woman in uniform at the gate walks along the queue, like some sergeant major at a parade, greedily eyeing up your bag, wondering if to call you out of the line and humiliate you. It pays not to have your wheelie case on the floor as that arouses their suspicion that it's too heavy to carry. She must be on a bonus. I saw a bulgarian chap hauled up in front of them and made to pay for oversize cabin bag, it didn't look like anything bigger than mine but it was shiny and it attracted her attention so like some vulture waiting to pick on some carrion she dived in a got her meal. And don't get me going on charging for excess baggage. One of our party fell into the trap, not me luckily and was obliged to pay £ 100 each way in excess baggage. It is just so embarrassing that an airline can do this to people." Why can people not measure and weigh their luggage. We always weigh our luggage on both trips, is it really that difficult? | |||
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"Yes. Though it's only 4 quid to choose your seat in the cheapest area of the and had I had bowel problems I'd have paid it. Seriously only £4? Wonder why she didn't just pay instead of going to the papers. I thought IBS etc were considered disabilities now. I thought people get cards to show they need access to toilets as an emergency so shops will let them use theirs. Oh....maybe you do get a card then lol Only with Chrons as far as I’m aware. IBS you don’t get one as far as I’m aware. X " You can get it with Colitis too. IBS isn’t considered a disability. IBD, on the other hand, is. | |||
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"Ive changed my thoughts on this. Why didnt she mention it when booking why didnt she just swap seats with her boyfriend. Why didnt she just pay the £4" Exactly,if you're going to travel and you have a medical condition, check with the airline, even before booking to make sure they can service your needs. | |||
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"Ive changed my thoughts on this. Why didnt she mention it when booking why didnt she just swap seats with her boyfriend. Why didnt she just pay the £4 Exactly,if you're going to travel and you have a medical condition, check with the airline, even before booking to make sure they can service your needs." | |||
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"Yes. Though it's only 4 quid to choose your seat in the cheapest area of the and had I had bowel problems I'd have paid it. Seriously only £4? Wonder why she didn't just pay instead of going to the papers. I thought IBS etc were considered disabilities now. I thought people get cards to show they need access to toilets as an emergency so shops will let them use theirs. Oh....maybe you do get a card then lol Only with Chrons as far as I’m aware. IBS you don’t get one as far as I’m aware. X You can get it with Colitis too. IBS isn’t considered a disability. IBD, on the other hand, is. " Knowing how my mum was with her IBS and having to plan trips around accessible toilets, I'm surprised it isn't considered in the same way as Chrones and Colitis. | |||
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